From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #169 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, August 28 1999 Volume 01 : Number 169 The Laborday JoniFest is happening this fall! For information: send a message to Join the mailing list at: ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Janet's message [Maggie McNally ] [none] ["Michelle Lynn Lempert" ] Re: Jazz Joni vs Classic Joni/Twisted [Ginamu@aol.com] urge words ["P. Henry" ] Re: JMDL Digest V4 #372 [Thunderthumbs ] Joni Distractions ...! ["Debby Magill" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:35:29 -0400 From: Maggie McNally Subject: Janet's message Janet, Your words moved me greatly. My words fail me miserably. Best, Maggie Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:33:30 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: PWWAM Oh, my. For various reasons, I'd held off on buying "Painting With Words And Music." This summer hasn't been the cheeriest I've ever seen; as some JMDLers will recall, I had a mastectomy a couple weeks ago. So I decided I deserved a treat, and I ordered PWWAM. It arrived yesterday. Here's my report: PWWAM is worth any number of surgeries! I'm both amazed that I hadn't sent for PWWAM before and incredibly glad that it has come into my life at this particular moment. It's amazing, of course, but it's also extraordinary medicine. Maybe in a few days I can say something more coherent about this. As it is, though, I simply feel immeasurably rich to be alive in a world that includes the art of Joni Mitchell. What a treat! Hugs, Janet and Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty And Mark Isham is no slouch, eh? - - ----------------- So when you see a man who's broken / Pick him up and carry him. And when you see a woman who's broken / Put her all into your arms 'Cause we don't know where we come from / We don't know what we are. Laurie Anderson, "Ramon" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:45:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michelle Lynn Lempert" Subject: [none] RE: 1st joni album. I regret that I have to disagree with all of you. I think anybody's 1st joni album should be Blue. I found many of her other albums took a bit longer to grow attached to. Most of my joni friends and I were turned on with Blue, and once hooked, started dabbling in the other albums. shellie -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:22:31 EDT From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Re: Jazz Joni vs Classic Joni/Twisted In a message dated 8/26/99 8:53:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com writes: << Alan threw out a couple of bones that I HAVE to pick: <> >> We are? I was a teen-ager in the mid 70s. Were the pot smoking, Deadhead listening, patched jeans types of the mid 70's really hippies? What time period defines a hippie? I've always thought of a real hippie as someone somewhat older than I, perhaps now on the other side of 40, maybe real close to 50? Having a brother six years older (and though we came here from Europe in 1967, he was instantly smitten with U.S. culture, as was I) I like lots of that era's music but I can't really claim it as as my own. I guess being a member of the "lost generation" and perhaps also being foreign born (but very American at this point) I can't really say I can lay a claim to any particularly special era in music, politics or social trends. Perhaps that's why Joni's Hejira means so much to me. I discovered it at a time when there was nothing particularly unique to lay claim to. Though I didn't feel I could embrace any particular music in a more socially encompassing way, I was able to identify, albeit alone, with *her* music. I can't think of any other single artist who could have kept me company quite the way she did with Hejira. Even though I was young and had many more changes to get to before truly understanding what she wrote about, the album held such mystique, wonder, loneliness (fodder for the angst mill). Even as young as I was, it hinted at things to come, just knowing myself and anticipating the road I would need to take to get there. One more thought about the early Joni albums. I listened to them all between 1978-1979. I didn't care for Clouds or LoTC much. They seemed already somehow "dated" by then to me. I mean, Clouds was released when I was just eight years old. At the same time, it was such a treat to see the progression, the growth. I sincerely believe had she remained the same, or as Bob said, became a sort of jukebox, I would have had little to embrace at all in the mid-70's except for maybe the poetry books I routinely checked out of the school library, none of which had the impact on me that Hejira had, nor continued to hold the same significance for me more than 20 years later. I guess some "hanging on to the past" is implicit in my ramblings here but I anticipate with eagerness anything new by JM, whatever it may be, even if it's a collection of turkeys (no offense) like Dancing Clown. And while I would much rather have the next record be new material, I can't wait for the album of standards. Anything Joni, anything at all...and I don't mean uncritical acceptance either. Just more food for thought and discussion, wherever that may lead us. Because of this list, I now appreciate the earlier work much, much more. My favorites have remained my favorites, but the early work has joys, surprises and mysteries of its own. Take care, Gina NP: Tin Angel, Clouds IMO, Joni is at such a creative stage in her life (talk about being in one's 50's and loving it!!) and has produced three incredible records in the last few years. Why would she want to hang on to the past? Take care, Gina NP: Sam Phillips - The Indescribable Wow ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:47:57 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: urge words Catherine wrote: you're correct and in fact this is not the only misquote of the verses of this song I've seen. it seems that the older the song, the more likely it is that someone gets the words wrong. I have seen the stanza that this particular line appears in with several different variations. this is how she taught it to me in 1966: "so I'll ply the fire with kindling... pull the blankets to my chin I'll lock the vagrant winter out and bolt my wanderin' in I'd like to call back summer time and have her stay for just another month or so..." pat NP: what else? http://members.wbs.net/homepages/b/a/d/badwolff.html Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:04:21 -0400 From: Thunderthumbs Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V4 #372 > > Comment: Thunderthumbs wrote re SNL's saxophony: > "Coltrane eat your heart out." > TT: Trust me when I tell you that all those sax-boys wouldn't > find themselves worthy to shine Trane's shoes, may he RIP. > > Kate in CO > to TT or Kate or Whoever... That you like 'Trane better that the SNL guy is an opinion, just as when I say that I find some (but not all) of Coltrane's solos sound like noise, or someone wiggling their fingers all over the keys. Fair enough? -Brad ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:57:46 -0400 From: "Debby Magill" Subject: Joni Distractions ...! Hi Bob! (and to all you listers!) Thanks for sending me all of that abbreviation info! That helped a lot. I just wanted to say that I loved and identified with your comment about "Black Crow" and what it did to you. I can be ANYWHERE and if a Joni song comes on (even in the grocery store or the middle of a conversation), I lose ALL focus on everything but my need to listen to Joni and sing every lyric with her! It gets kind of rude to those who are not Jonitized! It's a shame ... they don't know what there missing. "Coyote" and "Black Crow" are two of my favorites. Thanks for reminding me and I'm going to go listen to Hejira now. I'm sorry to hear that you're leaving the Sunday School :~( What a great way to learn! Ciao for now ~ Debby of Mad Beach debbyis@prodigy.net ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #169 ****************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?