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onlyJMDL Digest       Saturday, August 21 1999       Volume 01 : Number 159



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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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  Re: PWWAM fan                           [Martin Giles <mlg@ukonline.co.uk>]
  Re: Lead Balloon - Taming ....    [catman <catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk>]
  Re: PWWAM fan                                  [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
  Re: Essra Mohawk                               [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
  Re: Hejira, revisited                          [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
  Re: Song for Sharon              ["Jennifer L. Nodine" <jlhall01@snet.net>]
  Re: Sic                            ["Catherine McKay" <cateri@hotmail.com>]
  lurker birthdays                     [Linda Worster <lworster@taconic.net>]
  CD tree                            ["Catherine McKay" <cateri@hotmail.com>]
  James Taylor News!          ["Peter Holmstedt" <peter.holmstedt@telia.com>]
  Essra Mohawk                ["Peter Holmstedt" <peter.holmstedt@telia.com>]
  Joni is a "C"                                    ["Kakki" <kakkib@att.net>]
  Plug Of The Week #32        ["Peter Holmstedt" <peter.holmstedt@telia.com>]
  Re: Sic                                                  [IVPAUL42@aol.com]
  Re: Joni is a "C"                [Jason Maloney <jason.maloney@virgin.net>]
  Re: Essra Mohawk                  [Brian Gross <briangross@rocketmail.com>]
  Re: Sic                                                [TerryM2442@aol.com]
  Re: Joni is a "C"                                      [TerryM2442@aol.com]
  Re: Joni is a "C"                          [Bounced Message <les@jmdl.com>]
  RE:  iSLE OF Wright              ["Happy The Man" <cjenkins@austin.rr.com>]

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:51:36 +0100
From: Martin Giles <mlg@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: Re: PWWAM fan

Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com wrote:

> Martin said:
>
> <<But strangely, the song that has got me most at the moment is her cover
> of 'Nothing Can Be Done'.>>
>
> I 'bout fell off my chair when I read that , Martin, figuring I'd been
> ripped off on my copy of PWWAM, until I realized you were talking about
> "Comes Love". NCBD was Klein's music, her words...
>
> Bob

Oooops

Thats what comes of not reading the label! Yep, you're quite right - I was
thinking of "Comes Love". By the way Bob, what do you think of the PWWAM
rendition of Paprika Plains? ;-)

Martin.

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:35:17 +0100
From: catman <catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Lead Balloon - Taming ....

Jennifer L. Nodine wrote:

> catman wrote:
> >
> > mwyarbro@zzapp.org wrote:
> >
> > > "Wingnut" <kevin@ebanista.force9.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > <<<In Lead Balloon the line "sic her Rover" has yet to make sense
> > > to me. = Can anyone help? What is SIC?>>>
> > >
> > > This is an American expression commanding a dog to attack something
> > > or someone.
> >
> > I think it might be a British one too as we use it here. Wd also use the
> > word in brackets after another word or phrase that we know to be a
> > mistake.
> >
>
> "rover" is considered the quintessetial doggie name in the U.S.

and in the UK

> and
> "sic her Rover" is definately a command to her dog to attack someone.

yes it is

>
>
> Jenny, CT
> np people's parties



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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:08:44 -0400
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Re: PWWAM fan

<<By the way Bob, what do you think of the PWWAM rendition of Paprika
Plains? ;-)>>

I hope you're happy Martin!! I DID fall off my chair and start foaming at
the the mouth ala Homer Simpson in front of a piece of pie!! :~D

I'll get even with you someday...

Bob

NP: Santana "Supernatural" Unbelievable people - get it today!! Remember
the first time you heard "Black Magic Woman" or "Oye Como Va" and loved
that guitar? Well, Carlos is BACK, baby, and it's Latin-rock time again,
not that Ricky Martin/Jennifer Lopez BS but the real deal!

Oh golly, I'm starting to sound like Peter Holmstead now....

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:16:02 -0400
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Re: Essra Mohawk

   Tucker shared:

   <<Joni Mitchell was a regulaar visitor at Essra's house. And, basically,
ever since then she went off into the more dissonant chords and the more
jazzy vocal style. That was my influence. I've never heard her say it to
anyone, and I've never heard anyone else say it to me, and I haven't seen
her in many years, but I don't know why she would deny it."

                  Pretty wild, huh?!>>

                  Yes indeed Tucker! Thanks for sharing it - I wonder why
                  that influence hasn't been made known before now? I went
                  record shopping last night and looked for her disc but
                  had no luck - But if she's better than Bonnie I WILL find
                  her...

                  Bob

                  NP: Santana (with Rob Thomas): "Smooth"

                  Cha Cha anyone?

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:43:27 -0400
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Re: Hejira, revisited

 Paul aka Daniel Webster etymologized:

 <<: a journey esp. when undertaken to escape from a dangerous or
undesirable
situation : EXODUS>>

 Nice job, Paul. An additional footnote: Joni said the word just jumped out
 at her
 while she was reading the dictionary. It makes for a good story, but I
don't believe
 a "word" of it.

 But there ARE those who believe that Joni never lies...

 Bob

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:51:38 -0400
From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" <jlhall01@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Song for Sharon

Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com wrote:

> 
> Jenny, congratulations! You have the extremely RARE copy of MOA that has
> Hejira & Song For Sharon on it! :~)

Thanks for letting me know that, Bob!  And to think MY DOG CHEWED IT.  I
kept it anyway, and played it over the skips so many times that it
doesnt skip anymore!  This was my first JM CD-i bought it after hearing
"Circle Game" played on "Party of Five" when the kids were visiting
their parents grave.  I remembered loving that song when I was growing
up and ran out to the nearest "Strawberries" music store to find it on
anything.  But it was "Hejira" and "Song to sharon" that got to me, made
me think and made me feel connected to Joni.  I shudder to think that I
may never have made that  connection if I bought a copy that didn't have
both songs!

- -JENNY   CT

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:02:57 GMT
From: "Catherine McKay" <cateri@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sic

Isn't it "ply the fire with kindling?"


>From: Brian Gross <briangross@rocketmail.com>
>To: Catherine McKay <cateri@hotmail.com>, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk
>CC: joni@smoe.org
>Subject: Re: Sic
>Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:21:05 -0700 (PDT)
>
>---Catherine McKay <cateri@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have no idea where the "sic" as is "Sic her, Rover" comes from, but it
> > might be interesting to check it out.
>
>Maybe from the same place that "apply" as in "apply the fire with kindling"
>came from in the printed lyrics to "Urge for Going" (which I understand has
>recently been selected as the national theme song for EPSOA [Enlarged 
>Prostate
>Sufferers Of America]  ;-)
>
>	Brian
>===
>"No paper thin walls
>  No folks above
>  No one else can hear the crazy cries of love"
>
>
>
>yeah, right
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:13:16 -0400
From: Linda Worster <lworster@taconic.net>
Subject: lurker birthdays

De-lurking...Linda here to say 
to Bob, who celebrated:

>Happy Birthday also to all you lurkers out there who are having birthdays
>this week. You know who you are, even if we don't...

Thanks Bob!!!! How did you know????  :~)


>NP: Tom Waits, "Town With No Cheer"

I LOVE Tom Waits!!!! (definitely one of my top *not* JM artists)

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:20:35 GMT
From: "Catherine McKay" <cateri@hotmail.com>
Subject: CD tree

I missed it too.  If it's like the tape-tree, I e-mailed Les Irvine, who 
e-mailed me back with some info on it.  Let me know and I'll pass that info 
on to you if you need it (or you can e-mail Les.)

cateri@hotmail.com


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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:45:20 +0200
From: "Peter Holmstedt" <peter.holmstedt@telia.com>
Subject: James Taylor News!

JT Re-Releases

Six JT albums have been re-mastered and are scheduled for re-release on CD 
October 19. They'll include new liner notes by JT and Billboard Magazine 
editor Timothy White, but no new tracks. The albums are: "JT" (1977), 
"Flag" (1979), "Dad Loves His Work" (1981), "That's Why I'm Here" (1985), 
"Never Die Young" (1988) and "New Moon Shine" (1991).


"Fire and Rain: The James Taylor Story"

A James Taylor biography called "Fire and Rain: The James Taylor Story" is 
scheduled for publication this November. You can get more information and 
advance order it via Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559725338/jamestayloronl.d

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:19:25 +0200
From: "Peter Holmstedt" <peter.holmstedt@telia.com>
Subject: Essra Mohawk

> From: "   " <total_sco@my-deja.com>
> Essra is a criminally overlooked singer, musician and songwriter.
> I really think her new CD (Essie Mae Hawk Meets The Killer
> Groove Band) is ten times better than the stuff Bonnie Raitt
> has been putting out - and I'm a big Raitt fan.

I REALLY agree with this!  The new CD by Essra and Tim Drummond
is a VERY STRONG collection of songs. It features GREAT backing
by folks like Spooner Oldham, Dean Parks, Johnny Neel, Jack Pearson,
Steve Gurr, Mac Gayden and a cast of thousands . . . . . Unfortunately 
(to my knowledge, anyway!), Essra's big mouth have blocked the album
release for a year now . . . . .  Tim and Essra couldn't solve certain 
problems regarding the album, so Cherry Street Records have had the 
CD on hold for a very long time! Does anyone know if the album is 
actually released now?

Take care for now,

Peter

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:25:07 -0700
From: "Kakki" <kakkib@att.net>
Subject: Joni is a "C"

Joni is:

Creative
Chanteuse
Charismatic
Complex
Chameleon
Composer
Colorist
Caring
Congenial
Candid
Cheeky
Catty ;-)
Chatty
Candescent
Courageous
Capricious
Chromatic
Conversationalist
Californian
Canadian
Cosmic

Kakki

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:33:30 +0200
From: "Peter Holmstedt" <peter.holmstedt@telia.com>
Subject: Plug Of The Week #32

Hi there,

One of my favorite albums from the late eighties was
most definitely Tom Kimmel's debut "5 To 1", produced
by the great Bill Szymczyk  -  and this month sees the
release of :

Tom Kimmel  -  Short Stories  ( Point Clear )

This is Tom's fifth album and the third on his own label,
Point Clear Records. He calls himself a late bloomer,
but the truth is he's been making great music for quite
a while. Since 1980 over 60 of his songs have appeared
on major label releases by artists like Roger McGuinn,
Chris Hillman, Levon Helm, Emmylou Harris, Linda
Ronstadt, Dolly Parton, Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings,
Joe Cocker, Stray Cats, Susan Ashton, Shawn Colvin
and several others!

Tom's been called "a singer's singer and a writer's writer"
by several giants in the music business and the new album
features guests like Emmylou Harris, Gillian Welch, Jerry
Douglas and The Farfield Four.

If you're having trouble finding this gem in the stores, please
try :

Point Clear Records
PO Box 121393
Nashville
TN 37212
U.S.A.
Phone: 615 - 269 - 3717
Fax:     615 - 298 - 4825
Email: ptclear@songs.com
Website: http://www.songs.com/tk

One the best releases this year!

Take care,

Peter

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:07:51 EDT
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sic

In a message dated 8/20/99 11:19:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
cateri@hotmail.com writes:

<< sn't it "ply the fire with kindling?"
 
  >>
The line is:
 "I'll ply the fire with kindling,
and pull the blankets to my chin.
I lock the vagrant winter out
and bolt my wandering in."

Paul I

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:41:19 +0100
From: Jason Maloney <jason.maloney@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Joni is a "C"

This subject line raised an eyebrow or two, as in the UK such a
statement has rather unfortunate (and none-too-complimentary)
connotations..... :-)

Jason, hoping he hasn't started off another "dubious" thread.

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:44:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Gross <briangross@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Essra Mohawk

I first heard Essra Mohawk on Philadelphia FM radio in 1970-71-72 while I was
in high school.  I saw her once do a show in an auditorium in Germantown
during that time, where she came on stage pretty polluted.  But that didn't
seem to detract from her music, though.  I even still have a vinyl copy of her
1970 lp 'Primordial Lovers', mostly because of my favorite song of hers from
that era, 'Thunder in the Morning'.

I listened to Joni's 'Woodstock' from LOTC today in work, and it struck me as
being different from everything else Joni had done up to that point.  Mind
you, I'm not a musician in any way, but the main instrument in that original
rendition of Woodstock seems to be an organ or electric piano.  The credits on
the album don't mention either of these instruments.

But more importantly, the style of this unnamed instrument is strikingly
similar to the music on Primordial Lovers. For those who will be there, I will
bring the lp to Ashara's for closer examination by those who know their stuff
(music-wise)

OH MY GOD ! There really is a connection between Joni and Essra.  Being
somewhat anal, my lps are in alphabetical order in the bottom of the wall
unit.  And Mitchell is immediately followed by Mohawk.

Take care,

	Brian

nw: Part 5 of 'The History of Sex' on the History Channel
===
"No paper thin walls
 No folks above
 No one else can hear the crazy cries of love"
		


yeah, right
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:51:16 EDT
From: TerryM2442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sic

In a message dated 8/20/99 8:12:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, IVPAUL42@aol.com 
writes:

<< The line is:
  "I'll ply the fire with kindling, >>

This is one Joni song that I can NEVER get right, even after having played it 
for a few years now. The lyrics are so tricky to remember. Another one is 
Cactus Tree.
Who else gets screwed up in Joni lyric-ing?

Terry

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:54:52 EDT
From: TerryM2442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Joni is a "C"

In a message dated 8/20/99 3:54:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kakkib@att.net 
writes:

<< Joni is: >>

cat lover

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:30:18 -0600
From: Bounced Message <les@jmdl.com>
Subject: Re: Joni is a "C"

From: "Kakki" <KakkiB@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:42:42 -0700


 > This subject line raised an eyebrow or two, as in the UK such a
 > statement has rather unfortunate (and none-too-complimentary)
 > connotations..... :-)

Oh no, Jason!  O.K. Joni is "the 3rd letter in the alphabet" - is that
better?

 > Jason, hoping he hasn't started off another "dubious" thread.

And to think that just this afternoon I was chuckling to myself about the
UK'ers introduction to us of that dish "Spotted whateveritwas" ;-)

Kakki

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:58:26 -0500
From: "Happy The Man" <cjenkins@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE:  iSLE OF Wright

It's on right now on Encore

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