From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #92 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, June 24 1999 Volume 01 : Number 092 The Laborday JoniFest is happening this fall! For information: send a message to Join the mailing list at: ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: You Are Your Car/"Art snobs" ["patrick leader" ] Re: Joni and Ebay [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: The snob over there ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni and Ebay [Susan Chaloner ] Re: The snob over there ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Radiant Undulance ["Eric Taylor" ] Dianne Reeves CD (SJC) ["Kakki" ] Re: The snob over there [IVPAUL42@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:22:55 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: You Are Your Car/"Art snobs" gina wrote, it's not usually that expensive to access an art museum. I >believe at the Met for instance, one is allowed to contribute what one can >afford to pay for admission. you are right, the met can be done very cheaply, and all the other museums have at least one free or suggested donation night. besides, the top admission is between $6 and $14, and considering what people pay for movies, (not to mention popcorn and soda), i'm skeptical when people talk about art as expensive and elitist. (not that you did, gina) (Theater, dance and musical >performances of all kinds, on the other hand, seem very out of reach for the mainstream). i know it's hard to believe, given my demonstrated jmdl brilliance, but i am and nearly always have been a very low-income worker. partly because i spent 20 years pursuing a career as a dancer and am now transitioning alongside people much younger than me. other reasons, too. and i live in the most ridiculously expensive city in the u.s. still, i manage to see plenty of dance, theater, and musical performances, very cheaply. the met opera and the ny state theater have standing room for under $15. you can almost always move into decent seats. downtown dance performances are priced between $8 and $15. out of reach? no, no... all it takes is a little effort, but our education system has given up on teaching kids that it might be worth the effort to see 'Theater, dance and musical performances'. that's a true trajedy. i did inherit a little money from my gram this year (i'd rather have her back, frankly) and it financed a trip to la to see joni and some great jmdl folks. those tix were over $80 each, and they truly sucked though i loved the performances. if i spent $80 at the met, i could at least see the stage. patrick np - joni in tokyo - 83 gina, i think you live on the eastern seaboard, no? come to ny and i'll show you a cheap, culturally amazing time. there are many jmdlers who can vouch for me. and i have a complete blast, sharing my loves with folks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:53:30 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and Ebay In a message dated 6/23/1999 7:39:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, guitarzan@saber.net writes: << Surely the idea of an auction is that something goes to the highest bidder? > if one is bidding against another member of the Jonilist it is called life! I agree and would prefer the rather long Ebay lists stay off of jmdl; whoever wants to can check Ebay themselves. RR ps I also agree with CatGirl that the prices for Joni stuff on Ebay are getting ridiculous. >> Thank you! Going to eBay is as easy as typing it in and hitting GO! OK everyone is that easy enough? Catgirl....getting a little tired of all the bickering about everything...can we now talk about Joni? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:26:30 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: The snob over there Oh my Vince, I'm roaring!!! That one belongs in the JMDL Hall of Fame. Absolutely hilarious. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:49:37 -0700 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: Joni and Ebay CaTGirl627@aol.com wrote: > Catgirl....getting a little tired of all the bickering about everything...can > we now talk about Joni? I guess we could if everyone would honour all ways and get along... "...You might call me a dreamer but I'm not the only one..."-John Lennon On the other hand, Joni might have enough free bandwidth to span the Juan de Fucan and Georgian Straights of our Great Pacific Northwest without all our bickering Susan L.A. Honey McBabe-"...Imagine all the people living life in peace..."-John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:08:00 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: The snob over there Vince wrote: >I should decide what is on the JMDL as I am so in tune to Joni's soul, >and if I don't like what someone posts, it is my right to correct them. >You have some valid points, but sometimes you just don't understand what >this list is about. The fool over there, who gave that idiot the right >to criticize my post which simply and tastefully informed that worthless >snob that what was posted shouldn't be allowed? > >I nevr make miztakes, just typoes. You realy shud lern how to spel. >That idut, cant evn find spelchek. > >with apologies to the late Sidney J. Harris, Brilliant, just brilliant! And to add my two cents worth, I don't know anything about art or music, but I know what I like, and that's Joni, in both disciplines. I don't care if she's not a "great" artist, or a "great" musician to anyone else. She is to me, and that's all I care about! Helen P.S. Is there something in the atmosphere at the moment, that's affecting everyone? Lots of people here seems to be getting snippy, it's happening on the Lee-Shore too (the CSN list), and even my friends have been getting shitty over nothing. What's going on? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:17:46 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Radiant Undulance Catgirl wrote: << It is her RHYTHM that is so hard to duplicate. I would not consider that basic and simple at all. I feel if anything her rhythms have gotten more complex which makes for very interesting interpretations! >> You are SO right on Catgirl! What I love most about Joni's music is the astounding rhythms she gets going on the guitar & piano - what I call her "radiant undulance." Tiger Bones & Stay In Touch sound simple until you REALLY hear them. Then you realize why so few musicians dare to tackle her songs. It took me months of listening to Jericho over & over & over again to finally be able to sing it. & it took my band at least a year to finally be able to play it. Lately I'm getting into Otis & Marlena. WOW, talk about complex rhythms.... E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:45:25 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Dianne Reeves CD (SJC) Dianne Reeves CD "Bridges" arrived in my mail today and I've probably listened to it about ten times now. The beauty of it is so overwhelming that I think I would do it injustice to try to parse it in a review - there's just way too much WOW there for me to relate. If you want to drown in a totally gorgeous and luscious reverie of music, get this one. It is quite varied, and knowing so many of your individual musical tastes here, I feel there is something in it for everyone. The production and sound is beyond stellar. The all-star cast of musicians is astounding. Her interpretation of Joni's "River" is very beautiful and there are subtle musical references to Joni throughout it. There are glorious hooks and surprises in each song. The biggest revelation to me was her take on Peter Gabriel's "In Your Eyes" - It just knocked me completely over breathless. Her performance on that song and Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne" are in another realm. Feeling snippy these days? ;-) This album will cure you in a split second! Kakki NP: Dianne Reeves - Make Someone Happy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 02:06:02 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: The snob over there In a message dated 6/24/99 1:14:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hell@ihug.co.nz writes: << Vince wrote: >I should decide what is on the JMDL as I am so in tune to Joni's soul, >and if I don't like what someone posts, it is my right to correct them. >You have some valid points, but sometimes you just don't understand what >this list is about. The fool over there, who gave that idiot the right >to criticize my post which simply and tastefully informed that worthless >snob that what was posted shouldn't be allowed? > >I nevr make miztakes, just typoes. You realy shud lern how to spel. >That idut, cant evn find spelchek. > >with apologies to the late Sidney J. Harris, >> Vince, Harris was one of my favorite columnists, too. I had not heard he had died. Was it recently, if you know? In fact, I often use a quote of his: "Conversation should be like a tennis match, where each person hits the ball to the other's court. But to most people it is like a golf game, where each person hits his own ball and keeps doggedly after it." -- Sydney J. Harris Paul I ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #92 ***************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?