From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #90 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, June 23 1999 Volume 01 : Number 090 The Laborday JoniFest is happening this fall! For information: send a message to Join the mailing list at: ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JoNi & eBaY [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] Re: Shawn Phillips (VLJC) [pam tompkins ] Re: blue [Bounced Message ] RE: Southern Comfort (jc) ["patrick leader" ] eBay correction [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] This week's Joni on eBay [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] Re: The Political Joni Mitchell ["Kakki" ] RE: RE: Southern Comfort (jc) [mwyarbro@zzapp.org] My Two-Cents about eBay (JC) [mann@chicagonet.net] My Two-Cents about eBay (JC) [mann@chicagonet.net] tape tree #2 [Casey Certis-Milby ] Mingus Vinyl Gatefold? [LRFye@aol.com] Re: The Political Joni Mitchell [luvart@snet.net] Moses & The NRA ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: JoNi & eBaY [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Fred Simon gigorandum (not directly about Joni but we do have JC in our blood) [FredNow@] Re: JoNi & eBaY ["Kakki" ] Re: You Are Your Car [Susan Chaloner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: Re: JoNi & eBaY simon posted this very valuable and informative information directly as a result of Jim's eBay alert, proving further the valididity and value of such postings as Jim's: >Jimbo, >there's nothing nifty about this. as Neil >Young would say, this 'Posall and Mosalm' >LP is a real Piece Of Crap (POC). >this is absolutely one of the *worst* >sounding Pieces Of Sh*t (POS) i've ever >heard i my life. >besides, this music was made available to >JMDL members on TapeTree #3. the >complete program, not the bits 'n' pieces >offered up by Bootlegger$. >the contents are listed below. >for now ~ take care, >- ------- >simon >- ------- Thank you, simon and Jim. gdave - ----------------------------------------------------------------- DaveBase @ www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:38:55 -0700 (PDT) From: pam tompkins Subject: Re: Shawn Phillips (VLJC) I was stopped while I muddle through all my emails by the reference to Shawn Phillips. I was lucky enough to see him in a very small club about 10 years ago during the "Beyond Here Be Dragons" phase. He has such a wonderful aura and you have to love his music! Thanks for the update, hadnt thought about checking him out on the internet! PJT - --- "P. Henry" wrote: > > hey gang, > I just stumbled upon an old favorite of mine, Shawn > Phillips, another great singer/songwriter from the > old days who, like Joni, wrote some great songs and > had a phenomenal voice and a charismatic > presentation. also like Joni he started out in the > mid 60's, although then he was a rather unremarkable > folksinger, doing mostly trad folk covers (and > frankly I did better on some of those songs than he > did) with only a few of his own songs. I did not > become aware of him until ten years later when he > was hitting his peak and let me tell you, he was > awesome! if you'd like to hear what I mean, go here: > http://www.shawnphillips.com/discography.html and > check out the realaudio *complete* songs from his > 70's albums... a few of my favorites are > 'breakthrough', 'hey miss lonely', and 'woman'... > also, unlike Joni, he never achieved superstardom > though he apparently still tours... I wouldn't be > surprised to find a bunch of his fans on this list. > *S* > > pat > > > > NP: (of course) Hey Miss Lonely - S. Phillips > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. > http://www.angelfire.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:55:29 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: blue Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim Beretta > << are there any other blue fans out there? >> Ditto!! I had two favorite albums in highschool, "Song for a Seagull" and "Blue." "Blue" was the definite favorite. I used to set the record player on "repeat" and play that album over, and over, and over again. Believe it or not, it cheered me up. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:59:21 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Southern Comfort (jc) paul wrote, calmly: >Top 20 is pretty good indeed. Well, I have heard of Matthews Southern Comfort, though I could >not have told you where they were from or anything they did. They apparently >did not get nearly as much airplay in the Midwest's capital of Chicago as they >did in LA or NY. > Still, I'll bet the CSN version of Woodstock went higher on the >charts and got a LOT more airplay in the US than the MSC version. > I don't mean to take anything away from MSC in saying so, but >CSN was a much bigger band in those days and still is. and he's absolutely right. it's not at all apples and oranges to say that, whatever matthews southern comfort did with the song, it didn't have anything like the impact that csny's version did. they were the ones who sang the life into the song, to reverse ange's awful expression. the song is an icon because of crosby, stills, nash and young, and even as we enjoyed joni's wonderful renditions of the song last year, we knew that. and i personally think their version is better than any of joni's. descriptions of msc's version, and the musical talent behind it, make me want to hear it. still, it's only recently i've learned that england got local, and sometimes very inferior versions of the best of pop writing of the time. this from a recent bert bachrach special. in the late '60s, when dionne warwick was recording and having a hit with each new bachrach/david composition, instead of being released in england they were being recorded by one cilla black. the show presented it as a sort of competition between the singers, but all i could think was 'oh you poor sods.' almost as bad as pat boone rerecording great r'n'b songs in the '50s. patrick np - some old concert performance of 'case of you' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:00:51 -0400 (EDT) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: eBay correction I'm sorry to see that Dr Pepper still has three of his tape auctions still up, including Joni, Kingfish, and Betts. http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=drpepper4 The other 16 are gone. I'm glad to see that no-one has bid on the Betts or Kingfish, but I'm sorry to see someone has bid $26 on the JONI tape from Philly '66, which is more than likely the same material on the Tape Trees. Hopefully, these last three auctions will be cancelled as well. I'm pretty certain Joni's management would not approve. gdave - ----------------------------------------------------------------- DaveBase @ www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:19:14 -0400 (EDT) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: This week's Joni on eBay Here is a list of the current auctions of Joni stuff available through this coming Saturday. Each item is followed by it's current bid as of this posting, and the date & time the auction expires. I purposely left off Dr. Pepper's auction and I would discourage people from bidding on anything that appears to be a bootleg copy of Joni's work. Further descriptions of these items are available at eBay. And I am not affiliated with nor selling anything on eBay. 116787289 JamesTaylor, Carole King, Joni Mitchell, 1973 $8.99 06/22 19:19 118343671 Joni Mitchell-Hissing of the Summer Lawns SS $6.00 06/22 21:13 118418333 Joni Mitchell U.S. PROMO Poster-"Dog Eat Dog" $10.49 06/23 05:38 119670557 JONI MITCHELL Featured Network MAGAZINE 12-94 $6.00 06/23 17:27 119676866 JONI MITCHELL Access 11-94 CANADIAN MAGAZINE $6.00 06/23 17:39 117278275 Joni Mitchell-RARE INCREDIBLE 1st lp $6.95 06/23 19:25 117281012 Joni Mitchell-Court and Spark-RARE NM lp $6.95 06/23 19:28 117324460 JONI MITCHELL song book HEJIRA $41.00 06/23 20:31 118863468 JONI MITCHELL CASHBOX 1973 VINTAGE JONI !! $24.99 6/23 21:03 117381630 Live Joni Mitchell-Cranberries-Jackson Browne $12.50 6/23 22:45 117387072 RARE JONI MITCHELL SHADOWS & LIGHT VIDEO OOP $11.07 6/23 23:08 117632521 Joni Mitchell/Court Spark/DCC Gold CD/Sealed $45.00 06/24 16:32 119366270 GORGEOUS 8x10 Joni Mitchell! L@@K $8.00 06/24 20:52 117842991 Joni Mitchell - Shadows and Light, Rare Laser $11.50 06/24 22:23 119421402 JONI MITCHELL*The Complete Poems and Lyrics* $2.75 06/24 23:43 117911254 Joni Mitchell magazine 1974 Music..... $9.99 06/25 07:43 119482786 The Music of Joni Mitchell songbook $10.00 06/25 08:30 117928354 Joni Mitchell SEALED LP Record $9.99 06/25 08:37 119528705 Joni Mitchell Time 12/16/74 $9.99 06/25 11:03 119559663 Joni Mitchell Songbook Vol. 1 (1966-70) $15.50 06/25 12:35 119565683 Joni Mitchell Songbook Vol. 2 $41.00 06/25 12:53 118055595 Joni Mitchell: 2 ALBUMS! Great Shape! No RES! $4.99 06/25 13:56 119663776 CD - Joni Mitchell - Wild Things Run Fast $1.00 06/25 17:13 118169234 Greatest Hits: JONI MITCHELL -Still Sealed CD $8.00 06/25 17:37 120692136 BOB DYLAN,JONI MITCHELL,VAN MORRISON T-SHIRT $7.99 06/25 20:25 120705840 NEW UNUSED/JONI MITCHELL HITS $5.00 06/25 20:46 120004761 Joni Mitchell & The L.A. Express LP $7.50 06/26 14:13 118612657 JONI MITCHELL 1970s Scrapbook 150+ clippings $29.00 06/26 14:35 118613883 * JONI MITCHELL signed 8x10 photo w/COA *UACC $50.00 06/26 14:37 120019011 Elvis Costello/Joni Mitchell mispressing $15.00 06/26 14:48 121149262 Joni Mitchell "Night Ride Home" ltd deluxe CD $5.00 006/26 20:15 118862464 3 from 10 Joni Mitchell CD 's, Cassettes & LP $15.50 06/26 21:02 120214757 The Who, CSN,Joni Mitchell 8-tracks,mag,stubs $4.99 06/26 21:13 120245193 JONI MITCHELL songbook (read) $4.99 06/26 22:58 gdave - ----------------------------------------------------------------- DaveBase @ www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:45:00 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: The Political Joni Mitchell How about: Borderline Tax Free The Three Great Stimulants The Fiddle and the Drum Love Don't Interrupt the Sorrow The Arrangement Phyliss and Don wrote: > How about.. > Banquet > Sex Kills > > > > > 1. Otis and Marlena > > 2. Dog Eat Dog > > 3. Ethiopia > > 4. No Apologies > > 5. The Magdalene Laundries > > 6. Not To Blame > > 7. Fiction > > 8. Cherokee Louise > > 9. Beat of Black Wings > > 10. Big Yellow Taxi > > 11. Lakota > > 12. Passion Play > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Phyliss > pward@lightspeed.net > http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:13:02 -0800 From: mwyarbro@zzapp.org Subject: RE: RE: Southern Comfort (jc) Patrick wrote: <<>> I suppose now is as good a time as any to mention that I have never to my knowledge heard the CSN "Woodstock." [gasp!] - --Michael P.S. I'm definitely on for Joni's Jazz. See everybody there!! - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:20:42 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: My Two-Cents about eBay (JC) Okay.........I have to jump in here. I am a buyer and seller on eBay. Personally, I really do appreciate the alerts of Joni stuff on eBay. Altho, I check under JONI almost every day......I ocassionally miss something.... as the number of auctions are growing.........and that's a good sign for Joni and fans! I also have purchased some great Joni Mitchell items on eBay.........as well as replaced items I threw out or gave away a long time ago and wish I had kept. (that old Time magazine being one of them) I, like others, have gotten some really neat Joni stuff there is NO WAY I'd ever get without eBay or Amazon auctions. One of my first finds/buys on eBay I forwarded to Ashara's last year..........as a giveaway prize to one of the JMDL's that attended........my way of contributing since I could not attend. So PLEASE DO NOT include me in the group of people who don't want to be notified of auctions regarding Joni goodies on eBay. I like the Joni auction posts. It's all Joni related to me! Laura FUN FREEBIES (NJC): Free Bottle of Tilex http://apps.hearstnewmedia.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+APPSSURVEYSQuestionnaire?domain_id=164&survey_id=528 Free Lipstick (featured in New Woman magazine) www.nycos.com Popeye Vitamin Free Sample (for the kiddies) http://www.popeyevitamins.com/ $10 off your first $20 purchase http://www.yourpharmacy.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:24:35 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: My Two-Cents about eBay (JC) Okay.........I have to jump in here. I am a buyer and seller on eBay. Personally, I really do appreciate the alerts of Joni stuff on eBay. Altho, I check under JONI almost every day......I ocassionally miss something.... as the number of auctions are growing.........and that's a good sign for Joni and fans! I also have purchased some great Joni Mitchell items on eBay.........as well as replaced items I threw out or gave away a long time ago and wish I had kept. (that old Time magazine being one of them) I, like others, have gotten some really neat Joni stuff there is NO WAY I'd ever get without eBay or Amazon auctions. One of my first finds/buys on eBay I forwarded to Ashara's last year..........as a giveaway prize to one of the JMDL's that attended........my way of contributing since I could not attend. So PLEASE DO NOT include me in the group of people who don't want to be notified of auctions regarding Joni goodies on eBay. I like the Joni auction posts. It's all Joni related to me! Laura FUN FREEBIES (NJC): Free Bottle of Tilex http://apps.hearstnewmedia.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+APPSSURVEYSQuestionnaire?domain_id=164&survey_id=528 Free Lipstick (featured in New Woman magazine) www.nycos.com Popeye Vitamin Free Sample (for the kiddies) http://www.popeyevitamins.com/ $10 off your first $20 purchase http://www.yourpharmacy.com/ BigStar Gift Certificate You can go to their gifts for <$10 and get away with only paying shipping and handling (which is UPS standard $3.93, but the leftover money from the certificate goes over to cover some shipping too). http://www.bigstar.com/coupon/?code=biggift10&aff=-1&banid=3201 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:07:35 -0700 From: Casey Certis-Milby Subject: tape tree #2 i bet if you make a request here on the JMDL ... one of the Branches from TT#2 will contact you and offer to spin dubs for you. I'm not Evian, but I would love to have a copy of this tape tree. Please, anyone who is able, contact me and let me know what I have to do. Being childless. I have no first born son to offer, but... Thank you, Casey - -- "It is good to have an end to journey towards; but it is the journey that matters in the end." U.K.LeG. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:48:04 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Mingus Vinyl Gatefold? Trying to settle a mystery here -- one recollection has that Mingus is not a gatefold; another recollection is that it is. Concensus, please? Anybody know what a white label promo of Mingus is worth? Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:03:34 -0400 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: The Political Joni Mitchell At 07:58 AM 6/22/99 -0700, you wrote: >Don Rowe wrote: > >> I'm sure there are MANY others that are escaping me now, as I must >> hurry >> off to do some "real work" ... >> > And Phyliss writes: >How about.. >Banquet >Sex Kills > Has anyone ever noticed how there is a strain in how Joni sings Banquet? I find it very interesting how she did this given the topic of the song. It makes it even more moving for me. Just 0.02 cents Heather ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:37:50 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Moses & The NRA Now here's another title I'd love to hear Joni cover! I can just picture Charlton Heston narrating in the background as she puts music to The Ten Commandments with a thirteen gun salute keeping the beat like the wolf in Lindsey.... (Please remember to add NJC to the subject line if you loose sight of the Joni context....) ;~Q E.T. NP: Paprika Plains ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:14:14 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: JoNi & eBaY In a message dated 6/22/99 5:33:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kb420@webtv.net writes: << simon posted this very valuable and informative information directly as a result of Jim's eBay alert, proving further the validity and value of such postings as Jim's: >Jimbo, >there's nothing nifty about this. as Neil >Young would say, this 'Posall and Mosalm' >LP is a real Piece Of Crap (POC). >this is absolutely one of the *worst* >sounding Pieces Of Sh*t (POS) i've ever >heard i my life. >> Excuse me, but how does this validate the original posting on the subject? To me, it sys that if Jim knew what he was posting about, he would not have bothered to say anything. Instead, he may have suckered someone into bidding on something that was a waste of money, especially if we did not have a resource like Simon to pull the wool away from everyone's eyes. In other words, what I'm saying is that unless you are personally familiar with the item, its quality and its real value, you are only doing a disservice to the members of this list by notifying them of the item's availability in the auction. On the other hand, if you know the item is real quality and a real bargain, you're probably stupid to let other people know about it who might outbid you for it. So if the two above statements are true, where does that leave anyone who might want to follow Jim's example? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:19:22 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Fred Simon gigorandum (not directly about Joni but we do have JC in our blood) Friends and well-wishers, I hope you all can come out to hear this special gig, featuring the great music of guitarist Dave Onderdonk. As some of you know, Dave and I have been playing together for more than 32 years and it's always a big treat. Also, my wife Sarah Allen will be drumming with us, and that will be a big treat as well, as will playing with Jon Paul on bass, who has gigged often with Dave in Fareed Haque's band, and in a trio with Sarah and me. Hope to see you there. Fred Simon ========================================================================== DAVE ONDERDONK QUARTET Dave Onderdonk - guitar • Fred Simon - piano • Sarah Allen - drums • Jon Paul - - bass Saturday, June 26, 1999 • 9:00 p.m. - 1:00 a.m. Pop's For Champagne • 2934 N. Sheffield, Chicago • for information (773) 472.1000 ***KEEP COOL; PROCESS PROMPTLY*** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:22:09 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: JoNi & eBaY Oh puhleeeze, you guys, puhleeeze! Kakki > In a message dated 6/22/99 5:33:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kb420@webtv.net > writes: > > << simon posted this very valuable and informative information directly as > a result of Jim's eBay alert, proving further the validity and value > of such postings as Jim's: > > >Jimbo, > >there's nothing nifty about this. as Neil > >Young would say, this 'Posall and Mosalm' > >LP is a real Piece Of Crap (POC). > >this is absolutely one of the *worst* > >sounding Pieces Of Sh*t (POS) i've ever > >heard i my life. >> > > Excuse me, but how does this validate the original posting on the subject? > To me, it sys that if Jim knew what he was posting about, he would not have > bothered to say anything. Instead, he may have suckered someone into bidding > on something that was a waste of money, especially if we did not have a > resource like Simon to pull the wool away from everyone's eyes. > In other words, what I'm saying is that unless you are personally familiar > with the item, its quality and its real value, you are only doing a > disservice to the members of this list by notifying them of the item's > availability in the auction. > On the other hand, if you know the item is real quality and a real bargain, > you're probably stupid to let other people know about it who might outbid you > for it. > So if the two above statements are true, where does that leave anyone who > might want to follow Jim's example? > > Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:42:44 -0700 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: You Are Your Car Sweet Don Rowe-ing the rapids wrote: > Oh it will all happen again, I'm sure. The negative > reviews, heavily seasoned with snide sound-bites about > how the once-great Joni Mitchell is "burned out" and > "over the hill". Hell, they've been waiting almost 40 > years to get those cracks in -- don't think they'll > miss their chance and the point all at the same time > when the new album comes out. :~D I'm laughing so hard I can't type much...Joni certainly has come in for more than her fair share of dissing over the years...but then she is larger than Paul Bunyan :~) "...people will be envious..." maybe even especially critics... > Joni is old and wise enough to take it -- and so > should we. Can I get a witness? Sure Babe! I bet you could get a harem of witnesses ;~D Susan L.A. Honey McBabe-"...those who are successful must be always on their guard Success walks hand in hand with failure on Hollywood Boulevard..."-that Joan Jett ;~) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #90 ***************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?