From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #76 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Friday, June 11 1999 Volume 01 : Number 076 The Laborday JoniFest is happening this fall! For information: send a message to Join the mailing list at: ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: JMDL Digest V4 #253 [Doug Barrett ] Re: Master List [Susan McNamara ] Re: The Boho Dance [dsk ] Re: A boho dancing his way to Chiacgo ["Kakki" ] Joni's New Album? ["Peter Holmstedt" ] Re: Joni's New Album? [Don Rowe ] Bob Dylan - Denver, Colorado 990605 ["Peter Holmstedt" ] Re: Joni's New Album? [jan gyn ] Re: After Ashara's bash [TheHotelNH@aol.com] RE: A boho dancing his way to Chiacgo (tangential JC) [mwyarbro@zzapp.org] What's in a Name Take 2 NYC ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Joni Mitchell at 30th Anniversary ADITG? [LRFye@aol.com] Re: The Boho Dance [luvart@snet.net] Re: Strains of Joni Mitchell coming in through ... [PaulS818@aol.com] Re: Thomas Ross, Joni and Jazz [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Joni News in Canada ["Kakki" ] Re: A boho dancing his way to Chiacgo (tangential JC) [TerryM2442@aol.com] Joni Posters ["Russell George" ] Art Exhibition [Leslie Mixon ] Re: lyrically challenged ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Art Exhibition ["Gene Mock" ] Re: lyrically challenged ["P. Henry" ] the siquomb tour [Nicholas Bates ] message to joni, larry, or anyone with sway [Gellerray@aol.com] Re: Joni's New Album? ["Eric Taylor" ] art exhibition [evian ] Re: Art Exhibition [dsk ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:01:43 -0500 From: Doug Barrett Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V4 #253 Joni songs for my 5 hours or so: Both Sides Now Woodstock All I Want, My Old Man, Blue, This Flight Tonight, River, Carey Banquet, Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire, Barandgrill, Still Like to See You Sometime, Woman of Heart & Mind, Judgement of the Moon & Stars C&S, Help Me, Free Man in Paris, Just Like this Train, Car on a Hill, Twisted In France they Kiss on Main Street, Edith & the Kingpin, DITS, Shades of Scarlet Conquering, HOSL, Boho Dance, Sweet Bird Coyote, Amelia, A Strange Boy, Hejira, Black Crow, Refuge of the Roads Talk to Me, Otis & Marlena, DJRD, Off Night Backstreet Dream Flat Tires, Solid Love Good Friends My Secret Place, Tea Leaf Prophesy, Cool Water, The Beat of Black Wings Come in From the Cold, Slouching Towards Bethlehem, The Windfall How do You Stop?, The Magdalene Launderies, Yvette in English, The Sire of Sorrow Harlem in Havana, Man from Mars, Love Puts on a New Face, The Crazy Cries of Love, Stay in Touch, Tiger Bones (I suppose one can infer my album faves from this list.) Doug ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:17:04 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Master List I agree with Lori that confidentiality is an issue here. Especially since there are 585 people here and only a portion of them post. Can someone email me privately about what the original issue was? Just curious, Sue >Jerry wrote, in part: > >> But there are so many times I need an >> address and can't get it until they post. If everyone agrees, rather >> than making it available at any time, forward it once to the list and we >> could save it for future reference? > >This might be treading dangerous waters, and I don't think everyone will >agree. The JMDL already has a feature for those who want their email >addresses published, that being the Gallery. Probably the best thing to do, >Jerry, is to begin adding everyone to your email program's address book. > >Lori, who purposely did not change this subject to NJC >San Antonio ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:36:54 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: The Boho Dance David Marine wrote: > > It has been suggested that the Boho dance is the relationship between > critic and artist? I can see that as part of it. I would be interested > to hear from those who have read the Wolfe book "The Painted Word." It's been a long time since I read this. It was a magazine article, and I guess it was considered so influential that it was published as a book. It was one of those have-to-read books in school for me (actually the professor handed out xerox copies of the article), so of course I didn't pay much attention. Your post has made me curious about it though (that so often happens on this list), so think I'll find it and read it again. It might make more sense to me now. I've never associated it with Joni's song, except as the title, but that thought may change once I become reacquainted with it. > ... In other words, the artist as Bohemian. I always heard this song as being about the myth of the starving artist, working only for love of the art, having no material needs and creating exactly what the artist wants with no thought at all of material rewards. Anything else is selling out or going commercial. Aaarrrgghhhh! That's a relatively new idea (think it started with Van Gogh) and it is a very destructive one. But it's certainly one I was ingrained with in art school almost 20 years ago. The training might be different now, but "commercial art" was so below what we as fine artists were doing, that the idea (even now!) of doing something like web design feels like a betrayal of, what? I'm not even sure. And then there IS the marketplace, and fine art here is often sold with that romantic myth of the artist in mind. Collectors are told the value of the art will increase (not always the case), and collectors don't want to hear about (and are not told about) the artist also doing any "commercial" art. Right away, that's not a "real" artist. And yet the reality is there are relatively few "blue chip" artists. Even if artists sell paintings, they almost always need another source of income; often it's teaching, which seems "acceptable" (but never appealed to me). Somewhere I read Joni talking about art in Canada as flowing more freely between the "commercial" and "fine" arts; that there's not the rigid distinction that exists in the U.S. between the two. What a difference that would make in one's attitude toward creating! It's no wonder she can so easily go between paintings, and then her commercial art album covers, and music. (I can't imagine her writing a jingle for a TV ad though, but you never know.) > The lines that confuse me most are "And you were in the parking > lot/Subterranean by your own design." I've always read these lines to > mean that literally the person being addressed was the architect of the > building, which would imply to me a certain prestige, ... I never pictured an actual parking lot, but thought this referred to not going anywhere, not being in the driver's seat, not even using the vehicle that COULD get you somewhere if you chose to use it. "Subterranean" to me just means that the person is trying to keep that attitude hidden. And I also think of Bob Dylan when I hear that word; don't know why. > ...The metaphors of legs as social and personal > strength/vulnerability and stockings as shielding or armor appear in > many songs. .... I believe that at some deep level these > images are probably tied to her polio. ... Now that you mention, yes, and what a fascinating idea! Joni wasn't expected to walk again, so the fact that an 8 (9?) year old had such a destructive disease and overcame it has to be filtered through her music somehow. Great post, David. It's a lot to think about. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:20:27 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: A boho dancing his way to Chiacgo I'm really liking this discussion and it certainly has elevated a song that I did not pay much attention to in the past, even though I have experienced some of its' themes. I couldn't agree more with these points made by Clark: > The common mistake is assuming that what's popular is bad. > But for me C & S will always be sacred music because one of the qualities of > great art is sincerity. The most sophistic construction which is void of any > real feeling or expression is less interesting than a genuine folk effort. > I think every hit song on C & S is as sincere as those on Hejira or Turbulent > Indigo if less complex or cerebral. Setting out to please a critic and > titillate someone on a purely cerebral level is all about struggling up some > elitist ladder - it's not about art. I grew up in an environment where art, whether it be painting, crafts, ceramics, music, writing, etc., was regarded as a creative expression, usually of one's own vision and experience. It was a purely joyful and often exhilarating experience. Naturally, I was drawn to majoring in the fine arts when I went off to college. That is where harsh reality struck and I saw how "art" to some people did not even remotely resemble that way I had experienced it. I met people who had never picked up a paintbrush in their life suddenly deciding that they wanted to be an "artiste" and who adopted all manner of, in my opinion, pretensions, to "fit in" with their conception what is was to be an "artist". They were not so much motivated simply by an urge to create as much as they seemed to be looking for some cool new identity for themselves. This was initially very disheartening to me but eventually I sorted it all out. To me, the bottom line question is "Is it sincere?" If it is, the originality of the art will be naturally inherent and clearly apparent to the eye of the beholder. There are no traces of elitism in the truly great artists - on the contrary, many are very humble and generous. Best of everything with your play, Clark - I wish I could be there! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:36:23 +0200 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Joni's New Album? Hi there, Why hasn't there been any talk about Joni's new album project? ( ...or have I simply missed it? ) This is what Billboard Magazine says : " Joni Mitchell is working on an album with standards with an orchestra. *I get hooked*, she says, *when I performed with The El Nino Orchestra at a 1998 benefit organized by Don Henley. An arranger is working on the material right now. I'm just going to come in to the studio and sing the songs like Frank.* Among the songs she's recording are Billie Holiday's *Comes Love* and *You've Changed*, as well as *Answer Me My Love*, and *Stormy Weather*. Mitchell notes that she's also singing a few standards she wrote, including *Both Sides Now*. *The album starts with how nice love is and the goes into the pits*, she adds with a laugh. The project is being produced by her ex-husband, Larry Klein. " That's it! Take care, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:24:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Joni's New Album? - --- Peter Holmstedt wrote: > > Joni Mitchell says, > I'm just going > to come in to the studio and sing the songs like > Frank.* > Dear Joni, While we're all sure that your Sinatra impression is totally killer ... I think we'd prefer in you went in and sang like yourself. Thanks. Don Rowe (ashamed of himself for this worst of all possible jokes) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:26:17 +0200 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Bob Dylan - Denver, Colorado 990605 990605, Denver, Colorado : 1. Friend Of The Devil (acoustic) 2. Mr. Tambourine Man (acoustic) 3. Masters Of War (acoustic) 4. Tomorrow Is A Long Time (acoustic) 5. Tangled Up In Blue (acoustic) 6. Rank Strangers (acoustic) 7. Cold Irons Bound 8. Just Like A Woman (Bob on harp) 9. Not Dark Yet 10. Highway 61 Revisited 11. Love Sick 12. Maggie's Farm 13. Blowin' In The Wind (acoustic) 14. Sounds Of Silence (Duet with Paul Simon - Bob on harp) 15. I Walk The Line (Duet with Paul Simon - Larry on fiddle) 16. Blue Moon Of Kentucky (Duet with Paul Simon - Larry on fiddle) 17. Forever Young (Duet with Paul Simon) Charlie Sexton on guitar. Larry Campbell on guitar, mandolin, pedal steel guitar, and fiddle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:27:30 +0200 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: More Bob Dylan News Three Bob Dylan Remasters Have Been Released Columbia Records has released newly remastered versions of "Street Legal," "Greatest Hits" and "Greatest Hits Volume II". All three albums have been remastered from the original tapes and "Street-Legal" has been remixed under the supervision of the original producer. The packaging for each release has been restored to include all artwork from the original vinyl releases. Limited Edition Live Bob Dylan EP released For a limited time participating record stores are offering a limited edition Bob Dylan sampler free with the purchase of any two of the three newly re-issued albums. Supplies are limited so check your local record store for this limited offer! The sampler details: BOB DYLAN Million Miles Live Recordings 1997-1999 1. Love Sick (Live "Grammy®" Version) (5:28) Performed at Radio City Music Hall, New York, NY on Feb. 25, 1998 for the 40th Annual Grammy Awards telecast. Mixed by Mark Howard. 2. Can't Wait (Live Version) (6:03) Live "Field Recording" at El Rey Theatre, Los Angeles, CA on Dec. 20, 1997 3. Million Miles (Live Version) (4:45) Live "Field Recording" at Broome County Arena, Binghamton, NY on Feb. 19, 1999. 4. Cold Irons Bound (Live Version) (6:49) Live "Field Recording" at El Rey Theatre, Los Angeles, CA on Dec. 20, 1997 Written by Bob Dylan. Published by Special Rider Music (SESAC). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:37:16 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: Joni's New Album? >--- Peter Holmstedt wrote: >> Joni Mitchell says, >> I'm just going >> to come in to the studio and sing the songs like >> Frank.* >> >Dear Joni, >While we're all sure that your Sinatra impression is >totally killer ... I think we'd prefer in you went in >and sang like yourself. Thanks. >Don Rowe >(ashamed of himself for this worst of all possible jokes) Maybe it's a translation problem. Maybe Joni went into the studio in an aggressive mood and said to the producer "May I be frank with you?" - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:58:09 EDT From: TheHotelNH@aol.com Subject: Re: After Ashara's bash Hey...I just had to respond to this. When I first saw this subject, I thought it said "After Ashara's BATH." My first thought was, "Boy, people on the list post about anything on their minds!" I started reading the post and realized what was going on. I wondered, for just a minute, about the festivities Ashara has planned for after the bath.... Chris NP: Otis And Marlena...(DJRD, my latest addition to the collection, has grown on me quickly.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:22:43 -0800 From: mwyarbro@zzapp.org Subject: RE: A boho dancing his way to Chiacgo (tangential JC) CarltonCT@aol.com Wrote on Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:47:25 EDT <<>> I don't disagree with the central point of your post, Clark, but this statement took me by surprise. I think the work of Rothko and especially Pollack has inherent beauty (or expression) that does not require critical interpretation. Of what little I know about abstract expressionism, almost none of it comes from what I've read. It comes from what I've seen. Pollack's canvasses vibrate with energy and tension like no other artists I've seen. That's a unique and specific expressive experience that fills his work with relevance. Any future museum without Pollack is in my opinion incomplete. I share your (and "The Boho Dance"'s) concern with the foregrounding of contrived purposes in art, and I believe that many artists and many critics share blame for this. IMO, what makes art "art" is that it provokes and responds to emotions (which can be defined very broadly). The complexity, specificity, and uniqueness of the emotional experience created by a work is the measure of its worth. Both artists and critics should keep this in mind. My favorite criticism is that which communicates the emotional thrill (or lack thereof) of the experience. A good critic can describe that experience vividly, and by contextualizing it, help us to understand it. Anyway, I think Pollock painted for the emotion of painting first and foremost. And I think his work shows it. Critics be damned. Or not. - --Michael, wondering what Patrick has to say about all of this - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:59:23 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: What's in a Name Take 2 NYC Just got in from seeing James Taylor at the Royal Albert Hall to be greeted with Mr & Mrs Grocock, Marge Utt-Hole, Mary Chriss Moss and now Patty 0'Furniture. Please please -- no more tonight - I've just had hysterics and woken everybody up! (it's well past midnight here). James was great - had Russ Kunkel on drums - said he can remember them both being up in the balcony at the Troubador in LA listening to Carole King sing 'You've Got a Friend', never thinking he would be singing that song every night for the next thirty years!! I sang Joni's harmony with him tonight (in my head!) Night night PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:37:57 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell at 30th Anniversary ADITG? Here's the reply I received from "Lisa" at A Day In The Garden: - -------------------------------------- Hi Lori, Unfortunately, I can't tell you if Joni will be performing or not. The only thing I can say is that there is going to be a season of events beginning with Britney Spears on July 4 with fireworks following the show. My best suggestion for you at this point is to keep checking the website. As soon as new event and act information becomes available we will post it to the site. See you at Yasgur's Farm. - -------------------------------------- Ptthhfffft! : P Not if Joni won't be there! Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:51:32 -0400 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: The Boho Dance At 02:30 PM 6/10/99 -0400, Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com wrote: > >Bob, looking for hidden penii on his Dr. Seuss watch... > Is that a Cat in the Hat watch? If so, you'll have to look for Thing 1 and Thing 2 :-D Heather ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:26:05 EDT From: PaulS818@aol.com Subject: Re: Strains of Joni Mitchell coming in through ... << In a message dated 6/9/99 4:03:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com writes: << Now, can anybody correctly come up with another Hoagy song that holds the record for the longest song title?? >> Well it's not a Hoagy song, but back in the 70s Fairport Convention released a single with the title "Sir B. Mackenzie's Daughter's Lament for the 77th Mounted Lancers' Retreat from the Straits of Loch Knombe on the Occasion of the Announcement of her Marriage to the Laird of Kinleakie." I recall them saying at the time they were trying to get into the Guinness Book of Records. Not surprisingly with a title like that it was an instrumental! Paul (who used to lurk on the list a couple of years ago and has just returned.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:31:17 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Thomas Ross, Joni and Jazz I should have said it in the earlier message: I have never heard JM's MINGUS. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:21:36 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni News in Canada James relayed: Joni Mitchell gets solo art show in Saskatoon Deirdre Kelly Wednesday, June 9, 1999 Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell is to have a major exhibition of her painting at Saskatoon's Mendel Art Gallery, The Globe and Mail has learned. The exhibition, her first art show in her native Canada, is planned for the summer of 2000 and will examine links between her writing, music and painting. Los Angeles-based Mitchell, who considers herself a regional Prairie artist, grew up in Saskatoon and has always maintained a connection to the place and the surrounding area. The Mendel plans to offer the exhibition for tour regionally, nationally and internationally. I've been drooling over this fantastic news all day and it's wonderful to hear that the exhibit will be touring internationally. But gee, if this doesn't just tip the scales for me to really plan a trip to Saskatoon (Oh Evian....Evian....darling....when will you begin taking reservations for Jonifest 2000?? ;-D) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:46:00 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: A boho dancing his way to Chiacgo (tangential JC) In a message dated 6/10/99 6:24:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mwyarbro@zzapp.org writes: << Anyway, I think Pollock painted for the emotion of painting first and foremost. And I think his work shows it. Critics be damned. >> Pollock was also known as a "process" or "action painter", where the act of painting was as important if not more so, than the actual end product. I love abstract expressionist painters and personally think that Rothko was incredibly brilliant, though I certainly enjoy the others who were mentioned in this post, particularly DeKooning. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:55:58 +1000 From: "Russell George" Subject: Joni Posters Hi it's Russell from Down Under again. After searching the Net for hours I finally discovered a site with some JM promo posters for sale. If you're interested, go to http://www.photowrld.com/ , scroll to the bottom of the page, click on 'Search the Site', and type in 'mitchell'. There are three posters for sale. I bought TTT and Hits & Misses off them a few weeks ago without any problems - they have a secure server too. Regards, Russell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:33:31 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Art Exhibition What exciting news about Joni's art exhibition summer 2000! Here's a link to the Mendel Art Gallery: http://collection.nlc-bnc.ca/100/200/301/canadiana/Enhigh/content/institut/16/mushome.htm The old man agrees that we should plan our summer 2000 vacation to Canada around this event. I'm going to research nearby accommodations and I'll report my findings to the list. Anyone else interested? Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:34:11 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: lyrically challenged Pat wrote: >here she KNOWS Steve Stills! (ie: she was *not* a big star then >but very happy to just be one of us) (not to say that she wouldn't >be/isn't now...) I think she said she went to school with him... an' >'m goin' 'wow, cool! really? wow, you KNOW him?!?' it's really a >trip, thinking of it now... after all this time and the way things have My pedantic preoccupation with trivialities rears it's head once again! I'm confused here about Joni saying she went to school with Stephen Stills? He was born in Dallas, and schooled there as well as Houston, Illinois and Florida. He then went to a military academy in Petersburg, Florida, then in the late 50's moved to Panama, then Costa Rica, before making his way to New York, via New Orleans. Are you sure she wasn't talking about Neil Young? Because he was born in Toronto, then spent much of his early years in Omemee, Ontario, then Winnipeg - where he reportedly met Joni for the first time. So she is far more likely to have been at "school" with him than with Stills! Not flaming, just have to get the facts straight, or I won't sleep tonight! Helen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:40:40 -0700 From: "Gene Mock" Subject: Re: Art Exhibition very very very interesting! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Leslie Mixon To: Joni List Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 8:33 PM Subject: Art Exhibition > What exciting news about Joni's art exhibition summer 2000! Here's a > link to the Mendel Art Gallery: > > http://collection.nlc-bnc.ca/100/200/301/canadiana/Enhigh/content/institut/1 6/mushome.htm > > The old man agrees that we should plan our summer 2000 vacation to > Canada around this event. I'm going to research nearby accommodations > and I'll report my findings to the list. > > Anyone else interested? > > Leslie > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:33:37 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: lyrically challenged hi helen, honestly it puzzles me too cause I'm fairly sure that's what she said! in fact, I believe she said high school... maybe I misunderstood her... maybe I forgot? LoL! ...but I know I picked up on it cause I was acutely aware of Stills from BS. (I loved his vocal on FWIW) I was not aware of his bio data but I didn't think he was from Canada for some reason. I hate to be responsible for any loss of sleep but I'm afraid I that's all the info I have... a 33yr old recollection that maybe has too much dust on it. pat NP: After The Gold Rush - N.Young - -- On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:34:11 Helen M. Adcock wrote: >Pat wrote: > >>here she KNOWS Steve Stills! (ie: she was *not* a big star then >>but very happy to just be one of us) (not to say that she wouldn't >>be/isn't now...) I think she said she went to school with him... an' >>'m goin' 'wow, cool! really? wow, you KNOW him?!?' it's really a >>trip, thinking of it now... after all this time and the way things have > >My pedantic preoccupation with trivialities rears it's head once again! > >I'm confused here about Joni saying she went to school with Stephen Stills? >He was born in Dallas, and schooled there as well as Houston, Illinois and >Florida. He then went to a military academy in Petersburg, Florida, then in >the late 50's moved to Panama, then Costa Rica, before making his way to New >York, via New Orleans. Are you sure she wasn't talking about Neil Young? >Because he was born in Toronto, then spent much of his early years in >Omemee, Ontario, then Winnipeg - where he reportedly met Joni for the first >time. So she is far more likely to have been at "school" with him than with >Stills! > >Not flaming, just have to get the facts straight, or I won't sleep tonight! > >Helen > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:40:26 +1000 From: Nicholas Bates Subject: the siquomb tour Dear JMDLers I have been thinking about this idea for a while - its mostly a fun fantasy but I thought, what the heck, I'll verbalise it on the JMDL and see what kind of reaction I get. Here goes: The Joni Mitchell World Tour (or at least North America). No, no, not a tour byJM but a tour of JM sites of importance (or not such importance) by JM fans. Mention of the upcoming exhibition of JMs work in Saskatoon fired up the idea again. Our tour could include the exhibition's opening, visits to other sites of Joni importance on the Prairie and so on. The list could be endless. Just thinking of place names in songs is exhausting. Savanah to Malibu, Beale St to Detroit, Rome to Mattela and so on. Then there are all the landmarks from folk clubs to restaurants and even the Pan Am Building (which I would like to see anyway, even without a Joni connection having never even been to New York). We could even follow in some Hejira footsteps (I was driving across a burning desert...) And singing in "our best out of tune" voices all the way. You'd have to mad of course but perhaps that's one criteria for membership of JMDL anyway. A lovely kind of Joni madness renewed every day by our love of the music and understandable interest in the person who creates this life sustaining stuff. And it would beat a pilgrimage to Paris to sit at the grave of Jim Morrison! So any takers? It would be a hell of a challenge to organise but even the research could be fun (eg is that famous wooden house in Laurel Canyon still there?) and I'm sure those crazy enough to enter into such a journey would be a great and fun group of people (at least judging by the general good humour and nurturing which for the most part characterises this list). Nicholas in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:45:08 EDT From: Gellerray@aol.com Subject: message to joni, larry, or anyone with sway i wish joni would record "If Love Were All," by Sir Noel (did they make him one of those?). Perhpas it's a bit sentimental and or victim-ish but i don't know, it's awfully eloquent. i see too that there is a Broadway show (with Twiggy?) with the same name. Is it a kind of revue i wonder, a program of N. Coward's songs with some connecting plot? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:12:01 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Joni's New Album? Peter reported Billboard Magazine: " Joni Mitchell is working on an album with standards with an orchestra. *I get hooked*, she says, *when I performed with The El Nino Orchestra at a 1998 benefit organized by Don Henley. An arranger is working on the material right now. I'm just going to come in to the studio and sing the songs like Frank." Well, Joni did say that the last cut from each album indicates what direction she was going on the next. & *My Best To You* certainly gives me hope that she's not given up keyboards. I must admit that many of my recent favorites have been covers & semi-covers - Cool Water, Love, Slouching Towards Bethlehem, How Do You Stop, The Crazy Cries Of Love, Comes Love. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!! One song I would highly recommend is Come Rain Or Come Shine. No one has done justice to this classic since Judy belted it out at Carnegie Hall in 1961. Babs tried on Wet & it was SO boring.... ;~@ E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:45:18 -0600 From: evian Subject: art exhibition > But gee, if this > doesn't just tip the scales for me to really plan a trip to Saskatoon (Oh > Evian....Evian....darling....when will you begin taking reservations for > Jonifest 2000?? > ;-D) > Well, I just got in the door an hour ago after spending the evening in Saskatoon, and I was just quickly breezing through my email, and skimming through 2 digests when I found out about the Joni exhibition at the Mendel!!! I'm so excited I could spit! Any news WHEN in the summer this will be? Maybe it will coincide with Joni getting her honorary degree and she will actually BE there? True, I was hoping that she would get degree in Fall 2000, since I will be hopefully getting my M.A. then, but hell... I'll take what I can get! If anyone is even remotely interested in seeing this show, let me know and I can be of help with hotels, touristy things, etc. Just let me know. Maybe Kate from Alberta and I can piece together some sort of "Joni tour" and do a cruise of her old schools, etc. I live about an hour and 15 mins north of S'toon, otherwise I would just throw all of ya in my basement with the dog and the perpetually in heat cat! However, I am sure I could be available for airport pickups and a quick tour of the city before the exhibit. For Americans, you will be getting a wonderful dollar conversion on your money, and Saskatoon is very beautiful in the summer. Also, many hotels are basically in walking distance to the Mendel, and maybe the exhibit will coincide with some other event, like the Jazz Fest, Shakespeare on the Saskatchewan, or the Fringe Festival. Anyway, if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask! Evian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:13:53 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Art Exhibition Leslie Mixon wrote: > > What exciting news about Joni's art exhibition summer 2000! ... > > The old man agrees that we should plan our summer 2000 vacation to > Canada around this event. I'm going to research nearby accommodations > and I'll report my findings to the list. > > Anyone else interested? Yes, yes, yes! That would be great to see Joni's work in a place that respects her (and I'm assuming her hometown place would). The publicity celebrities get when they have a show in NY is always a little sour. And to see Joni's hometown! What a treat that would be! I'd want to see that view of the river that Joni painted, you know the one... that painting in TTT of that big expanse of glassy water with Oz in the distance. Now if someone says that Joni is the greatest artist that ever lived, I'll vehemently disagree, but putting that aside, it would be great to see some of her work in person. So, sign me up. Debra Shea ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #76 ***************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?