From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #34 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, May 6 1999 Volume 01 : Number 034 TapeTree #8 is ready to roll. To sign up go to: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- Join the Joni Mitchell Internet Community Glossary project. Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Talkin' 'bout the ear ["Eric Taylor" ] Joni's Jazz in Central Park [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: (jc) central park [Dflahm@aol.com] CSN revisited - some Joni trivia [MGVal@aol.com] Re: Joni's Jazz in Central Park [Dflahm@aol.com] RE: (jc) central park [mwyarbro@zzapp.org] The Three Great Stimulants [Don Rowe ] Today in Joni History - May 6 [Today in Joni History ] RE: Joni's Jazz in Central Park ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Joni's Jazz in Central Park [Ginamu@aol.com] Artifice, Brutality and Innocence [RADJSHARP@aol.com] Peggy Baker on JM [Robert Holliston ] Re: Artist (s) of the Decade / Joni Trivia ["Kakki" ] Murray MacLaughlin [Zapuppy@webtv.net (Rick & Penny Gibbons)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 03:49:43 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Talkin' 'bout the ear Back in August 1988 Musician Magazine printed my letter to the editor regarding their Living Legends issue. This was also my first post to the JMDL back in January 1998. I'm still wondering if anyone besides me sees a connection between this letter and TI. "I've long wondered why Joni Mitchell is not much more acknowledged for her unparalleled innovations and creations, until I recently realized -- with the sale of Van Gogh's paintings -- that the world's greatest geniuses are often not recognized until long dead. I just hope that volume-hungry audiences don't drive her to cut off an ear (unless it belongs to the jerk who hit her guitar with a water-balloon at the Amnesty International Conspiracy of Hope concert!). JonEric Mendocino, CA" BTW, I was head hand on a sheep ranch at the time (jonEric was my pen-name in the local newspaper) and had written a long letter to Joni praising her work and comparing her to Van Gogh.... E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 04:31:04 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Joni's Jazz in Central Park Wow! This from SummerStage.com: - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:22:26 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: (jc) central park I see. The concert as announced for July 1 would be to BENEFIT Summerstage, not be part of Summerstage itself. Coincidentally, The New York Times reported Summerstage's own slate as follows, in its Wednesday edition: "After 13 years of entertaining over 5 million people, Central Park Summerstage will begin a new season of pop music, dance and opera at the Rumsey Playfield in Central Park with a performance by Tommy James and the Shondells and Ronnie Spector on June 12. Before the free series ends on Aug. 19th, the entertainment is to range from salsa by Adalberto Alvarez y Su Son and a family party featuring artists from the hip-hop Sugar Hill Gang, to the South African trumpeter, composer and social commentator Hugh Masakela to the NY Grand Opera, the flamenco revue Noche Flamenca, Lyle Lovett & the pop star Marianne Faithful." Oh, and while I'm practicing my typing, let me share a priceless and alarming final paragraph of a letter and reply from the current issue of SHEET MUSIC MAGAZINE. "Would it be possible to publish ('Shoo-Shoo Baby'), which has been featured in many films, in a future issue...? Because of it's repetitious melody and chord changes, it would be easy and fun to play." And SM, of course, promptly assures the inquirer: "Thank you for your suggestion. We are planning to include this song in an upcoming issue." TAKE THAT, JONI MITCHELL!!!! Ciao for now DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:27:13 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: CSN revisited - some Joni trivia While listening to CSN's first album for the first time in a bahillion years, I noticed that all of Graham Nash's songs were published by SIQUOMB - something I never noticed. "..through the sharing of the profits he will find it hard to shake her from his memory..." MG np: CSN: "Lady of the Island" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:28:56 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Jazz in Central Park Outside of Hendricks & Ross, where are the JAZZ musicians on this roster? Just asking. LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 06:55:44 -0700 From: mwyarbro@zzapp.org Subject: RE: (jc) central park Special JMDL Sheebaland correspondent Patrick Leader filed this report from the front lines: <<>> !!!!!! Chaka doing "Hejira" live? Is it a possibility?!? And you know who her new label-boss is, don't you? The Artist himself. The one whose favorite album, HOSL, happens to fall between C&S and Mingus. Doth my imagination run too fleet? Making plans now for an E Village Independence Day vacation, I am... - --Michael NP: Lauryn Hill, "Ex-Factor" British import single - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:23:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: The Three Great Stimulants Hello list -- I'm back from jury duty -- which was eerily like "The Three Great Stimulants" -- complete with little lawyers from the tube, showing their clients how their petty aggravations could profit them. I remember a discussion a while back on the meaning of Artifice, Brutality and Innocence in the lyrics. In light of my recent experiences, I humbly offer a new layer of meaning for these stimulants ... Artifice -- The skill of (or in this case, lack thereof) your lawyer, and his ability to paint petty aggravations as potentially life-debilitating conditions. Brutality -- The heartlessness of the insurance company, the big business bickering over doctors reports and diagnoses, treatments and options, and flatly refusing to pay huge sums for subjective complaints. Innocence -- The doe-eyed expression of the poor 20-year old defendant. I'm really sorry for this poor girl, caught in the clutches of Artifice, clearly uncomfortable with exaggerating her claims. The Exhausted Ones -- We the jury. Don Rowe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:54:00 -0700 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - May 6 1972: Joni performs at Festival Hall in London - with Jackson Browne as the opening act. Sounds Magazine later published a review of the evening, saying "The evening had started badly - half an hour later than advertised the audience were let into the main hall having been barricaded out. Apparently the sound system had been playing up all day, and the sight of road managers and sound guys still fiddling around with leads as we got to our seats was hardly a settling vision. Out of [Jackson Browne's] 40 minute set only three songs actually got completed... During the interval the Festival Hall's own system was moved onstage for Joni who came on looking calm and beautiful - even though earlier she had been standing in the wings puffing nervously at a cigarette as Jackson was onstage." Read the full article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/sounds720513.htm 1995: Joni performs at the 26th annual "New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival". (From Wally's bio): [Today], Joni gave an 80 minute concert... At this show, she premiered her new electric guitar- the Roland VG-8. Built for Joni by Fred Walecki of Westwood Music in Los Angeles, the apparatus solved a great deal of tuning problems for Joni. The VG-8 is actually the computer processor that her Stratocaster-like green guitar is plugged into. This computer stores all her tunings and can recreate them at the push of a pedal. View photos of the event at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/NewOrleansJazz95.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:17:55 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Joni's Jazz in Central Park Annie Ross?!?!?!? Is she still singing? That's absolutely fantastic. She must be at least 70. I wonder if she'll do Twisted. WallyK - -----Original Message----- De: Dflahm@aol.com Para: JRMCo1@aol.com CC: joni@smoe.org Fecha: Miércoles 5 de Mayo de 1999 07:40 Asunto: Re: Joni's Jazz in Central Park >Outside of Hendricks & Ross, where are the JAZZ musicians on this roster? >Just asking. LAHM > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:36:05 -0700 From: Jenaya Dawe Subject: RE: Influtential Artists/Artist(s) of the decade(s) OK, so I've been thinking and thinking and thinking about this thread, but I didn't come up with anything revolutionary.... and also couldn't limit myself to one... 60s Solo-Bob Dylan Band-The Beatles (also: The Beach Boys, The Animals, The Stones) 70s Solo-Joni (though also Stevie Wonder, JT, Paul Simon and David Bowie come to mind) Band-Bee Gees (runners-up: The Eagles, ABBA, Wings, Pink Floyd) 80's Solo-Madonna (hands down, no one else was as influential in pop music in the 80's, although I will concede PE's "It Takes A Nation of Millions", released in '89, was pretty groundbreaking. Prince also broke a lot of new ground in the 80's) Band-this one I'm not so sure about... Dire Straits comes to mind, as does Tears For Fears and Genesis. 90's I really can't say. My choice would be Joe Henry, Victoria Williamss, or Lauryn Hill. Tori Amos probably belongs here too I think Nirvana was definitely the most influential band of the 90's... but I'm from Seattle, they pay me to say that :-) Dave Matthews Band a CLOSE second. While these are my picks, these also tend to be pretty mainstream. There so many artists that have shaped the evolution of popular music. Curtis Mayfield, Al Green, and James Brown all had a huge effect on the funk and hip-hop records of the 90's. And...Pearl Bailey was rapping in 1946. The Grateful Dead spawned a million ever-touring folk-rock/pseudo-psychedelic bands. Think Phish, Dave Matthews, Blues Traveler Bands such as Cheap Trick and Big Star (god bless Alex Chilton), as well as the New York Dolls were immensely influtential on the whole 90's generation of Power Pop- Elastica, Trowing Muses, NY Loose, Fur. Blondie fits in there somewhere... I can't decide whether they were influential or influenced. Any thoughts on this? For those of you still reading, my apologies! Jenaya ... willing the clock to strike 5 pm..... been studying the power pop lineage for work, can you tell? NP: MOST appropriate: Rickie Lee "Ghetto Of My Mind" http://www.playnetwork.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:39:47 -0700 From: Jenaya Dawe Subject: RE: most influential... decade sorry sorry sorry NJC NJC NJC NJC NJC NJC NJC NJC NJC NJC NJC Jenaya http://www.playnetwork.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:20:01 EDT From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Jazz in Central Park In a message dated 5/5/99 4:33:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JRMCo1@aol.com writes: > It's the hissing of SummerStage - A Canada Day celebration of Joni Mitchell's > > most adventurous period as a recording artist Oh, oh, my, my...it is also my birthday! I love a relaxing train ride to NYC. Gina NPIMH: if love were a train, i think i would take me a slow one...michelle shocked ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:19:44 EDT From: RADJSHARP@aol.com Subject: Artifice, Brutality and Innocence Am I the only one drawn to the list by the artifice, brutality and innocence that marks the daily posts? Thanks Don for reminding us how the three great stimulants can be woven into a scene such as your courtroom drama. It sounds like you have a ways to go before it turns into a song, but working on the lyrics can help pass the time in the "box." :~D Thanks to you all for your sensitive, intelligent commentary on events of the day, music, political and otherwise. Lurking in St. Louis, Bob [not Dylan] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:20:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Holliston Subject: Peggy Baker on JM A short interview with Peggy Baker, one of Canada's foremost modern dancers and choreographers, appeared in this weekend's National Post (NOT a rag I usually read, but someone left a copy on the bus). Two excerpts: Q: Do you have a hero now? Peggy Baker: My hero for the past 30 years, without a moment of interruption, has been Joni Mitchell. I aspire to dance with an eloquence, truth, and originality even remotely comparable to her voice, her words, and music. And she has never stopped growing and developing as an artist. Q: How do you relax? Peggy Baker: I love to read (mainly biographies), to sing with Joni's records, and will never turn down a glass of red wine. Peggy has long been considered a trailblazer in her profession, and it would be safe to describe her following as smallish but very devoted. Hmmmm..... Roberto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:24:46 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Artist (s) of the Decade / Joni Trivia Philip, this is a tough one. Is it "Corrina, Corrina" from A Bird that Whistles? > Now the JC trivia. Which Bill Haley tune does Joni quote from ? I actually have the original Rock Around the Clock Bill Haley LP somewhere around here but don't want to start digging through the pile for it! Kakki NP: Cubanisimo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:05:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Zapuppy@webtv.net (Rick & Penny Gibbons) Subject: Murray MacLaughlin Thanks Kate, for sharing portions of Getting out of Here Alive with us. I'm thoroughly enjoying your latest read! Sounds like a very entertaining and enlightening book! I was in Barnes and Noble yesterday and browsed the book on Jaco. Only had time to read a couple of pages, but it sounds like there was quite a bit of druggin' going on when Jaco was working / touring with Joni. I realize our sweet Joan is no saint, but does anybody know how much she was into a drugs back when coke was all the rage? No judgements, mind you, just curious. Had a little Joni moment tonight. We (the husband and kids 12 &15 yrs) went out for Chinese. Right after the egg rolls Help Me came on over the radio. My smart ass husband immediately starts mocking me (and the rest of the JMDL) by doing the Meg Ryan restaurant scene from When Harry Met Sally. I'm so glad the place was pretty empty. I was red faced and the kids were rolling in laughter. ; -D Later all, Penny ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #34 ***************************** There is now a JMDL tape trading list. Interested traders can get more details at http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! 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