From: owner-octoroon-digest@smoe.org (octoroon-digest) To: octoroon-digest@smoe.org Subject: octoroon-digest V1 #27 Reply-To: octoroon@smoe.org Sender: owner-octoroon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-octoroon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk octoroon-digest Friday, July 31 1998 Volume 01 : Number 027 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [octoroon] Re: your mail [FZFan641@aol.com] [octoroon] Laura Love [Eric Fisher ] [octoroon] review: falon ridge folk festival [Deb ] Re: [octoroon] review: falon ridge folk festival ["Jennifer Rosenblatt, P] Re: [octoroon] Laura Love [david.magaro@chronicle.com] RE: [octoroon] Laura Love [Bobbi ] Re: [octoroon] review: falon ridge folk festival [Rick Hickman ] [octoroon] Laura [Bob Wagner ] [octoroon] sessions @ 54th/discoveries [KdsInThHal@aol.com] Re: [octoroon] sessions @ 54th/discoveries [Bob Wagner ] Re: [octoroon] sessions @ 54th/discoveries ["lazy girl" Subject: [octoroon] Laura Love I haven't been a fan of Laura very long, she is an awesome bass player. I think she is pretty cool. Is she a lesbian or something? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:38:57 -0400 From: Deb Subject: [octoroon] review: falon ridge folk festival My friend Amy, who isn't on this list, offered the following when nagged for a bit of info about LL at Falcon Ridge : >Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:37:55 -0700 (PDT) >From: "Amy J. Putnam" >To: Deb >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > >> >> Are you on my Laura Love list? We'd love even a quick review, it's pretty >> quiet these days! > >not onthat list. sacrielege though it may be, i dont know her music >all that well. all i have is the putamayo collection. so you >can pass this along if you want...her set *rocked*. she was >boucning all over the place and definitely had the adrenalin >at the festival raised ten notches (only to be dropped again >by greg brown...a very good musician but a poor choice to follow >laura). sh did a CD signing after her set which was very well >attended. i saw her briefly on sunday (her set was sat night) to >tell her how much i enjoyed venus envy's "i'll be a homo for >christmas" she got a kick out of hearing that. seems like a >marvelously grounded person. course my interaction with her was >about 5 seconds, so i dont really know. - -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:05:03 -0700 From: "Jennifer Rosenblatt, Ph.D." Subject: Re: [octoroon] review: falon ridge folk festival can someone tell me how to get off of this list serve? thank you!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:26:00 -0500 From: david.magaro@chronicle.com Subject: Re: [octoroon] Laura Love My girlfriend and I had this discussion last night about why America is so obsessed with sex; why isn't it enough to know that Laura Love is a one funky bassist play, a helluva singer, and a damn fine song-writer? And while the sexuality of an artist (Walt Whitman for instance) can give you insight to their work, and expand the consciousness of an narrow-minded listener/reader, more often than not, the artist ends up categorized and marginalized. I convinced my friend to by a copy Howl one time, and later when I mentioned that Ginsberg was gay, we said "Oh man, you had me buy a queer book?" On the other hand, homosexual artists who do make it big (Whitman, Garcia Lorca, Hart Crane) end up having their sex- ulaity marginalized, and disregarded to irrelevant. LIke in 11th grade when we were studying Whitman, and my friend Cindy stated that Whitman was gay, the teacher got all snippy, saying something to the effect of "I don't see what that has to do with anything". Well, I see what it had to do with. The passion and eloquence of Whitman proves (I use present tense because he is Immortal) that homosexuals love, and love as deeply as heterosexuals, and that such division between hetero, and homo, is purely semantic. Human beings love. We love different people, and different kinds of people. So to end this short rant, all I can say is Art is Art, and Bill is Bill. Groove on, Dave To: octoroon@smoe.org cc: (bcc: David Magaro/Chronicle) Subject: [octoroon] Laura Love I haven't been a fan of Laura very long, she is an awesome bass player. I think she is pretty cool. Is she a lesbian or something? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:18:00 -0700 From: Bobbi Subject: RE: [octoroon] Laura Love I wanted to thank Dave for his posting. I absolutely agree - what difference does it make if Laura is gay/straight/bi or transexual! She is a fabulous musician, and puts on a helluva show. She is generous to her fans & audience, she is gracious, and has a great sense of humor. I do have to agree with Dave's statement that the only reason it would be relevant is simply to show that gay people have the same strenghts and weaknesses as straight people. Some are talented musically, some are not. Some have a great sense of humor, some do not. Some are kind, some are jerks... and etc. etc. etc..... Oh, and Eric - if it does make a difference to you, you seriously need to get a life (unless you were asking because you want to go out with her ;-) ! Share the Love! Bobbi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Hickman Subject: Re: [octoroon] review: falon ridge folk festival Have never seen Laura to my great disappointment, but every review I have ever read is that she raises the level of performance and creates the kind of excitement that you mentioned. My guess is that that is exactly why she cannot get billed along the other acts at Lilith Fair, etc. Fear that Laura will blow them all away (and of course she would). - ---Deb wrote: > > My friend Amy, who isn't on this list, offered the following when nagged > for a bit of info about LL at Falcon Ridge : > > >Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:37:55 -0700 (PDT) > >From: "Amy J. Putnam" > >To: Deb > >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > >> > >> Are you on my Laura Love list? We'd love even a quick review, it's pretty > >> quiet these days! > > > >not onthat list. sacrielege though it may be, i dont know her music > >all that well. all i have is the putamayo collection. so you > >can pass this along if you want...her set *rocked*. she was > >boucning all over the place and definitely had the adrenalin > >at the festival raised ten notches (only to be dropped again > >by greg brown...a very good musician but a poor choice to follow > >laura). sh did a CD signing after her set which was very well > >attended. i saw her briefly on sunday (her set was sat night) to > >tell her how much i enjoyed venus envy's "i'll be a homo for > >christmas" she got a kick out of hearing that. seems like a > >marvelously grounded person. course my interaction with her was > >about 5 seconds, so i dont really know. > > -- > Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:54:51 -0400 From: Gabi Taylor Subject: Re: [octoroon] Laura Love I second what Dave just wrote. I would also like to add that if you find yourself on a forum where everyone is celebrating their common interest, and you are unsure of ohhh, say, the sexual preference of the artist at hand - then pose the question if you think it will shed some light for you - but rest assured that while you are unsure of LL's sexual preference you are also unsure of the rest of the forum's sexual preference, and like, why'm i gettin' so shitty, man? it's just a simple question. well, I suppose I am a long time LL fan so I feel a certain loyalty and have a protective nature, so when callous and cloddishly posited questions appear - i am disturbed. 'afternoon, gabi At 01:26 PM 7/30/1998 -0500, david.magaro@chronicle.com wrote: >My girlfriend and I had this discussion last night >about why America is so obsessed with sex; why isn't >it enough to know that Laura Love is a one funky bassist play, a >helluva singer, and a damn fine song-writer? And while the >sexuality of an artist (Walt Whitman for instance) can >give you insight to their work, and expand the consciousness >of an narrow-minded listener/reader, more often than not, the artist >ends up categorized and marginalized. >I convinced my friend >to by a copy Howl one time, and later when I mentioned that >Ginsberg was gay, we said "Oh man, you had me buy a queer >book?" > On the other hand, homosexual artists who do make it >big (Whitman, Garcia Lorca, Hart Crane) end up having their sex- >ulaity marginalized, and disregarded to irrelevant. LIke in 11th >grade when we were studying Whitman, and my friend Cindy stated >that Whitman was gay, the teacher got all snippy, saying something >to the effect of "I don't see what that has to do with anything". Well, >I see what it had to do with. The passion and eloquence of Whitman >proves (I use present tense because he is Immortal) that homosexuals >love, and love as deeply as heterosexuals, and that such division >between hetero, and homo, is purely semantic. Human beings love. >We love different people, and different kinds of people. > >So to end this short rant, all I can say is Art is Art, and Bill is Bill. > >Groove on, >Dave > > > > > > > To: octoroon@smoe.org > > cc: (bcc: David Magaro/Chronicle) > > > > Subject: [octoroon] Laura Love > > > > > > > >I haven't been a fan of Laura very long, she is an awesome bass player. >I think she is pretty cool. >Is she a lesbian or something? > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:41:31 -0700 From: Bob Wagner Subject: [octoroon] Laura My personal discovery of LL was only a few weeks ago, amazed by her set on "Sessions@W.54 Street". I fell in love with her immediately and did some web-searching which turned up a strong suggestion she's gay, among many other things. Oh well, I would probably have about as much chance as with, say, Polly Harvey. Just call me a dreamer. There will always be cloddish persons; some learn and grow out of it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:17:21 EDT From: KdsInThHal@aol.com Subject: [octoroon] sessions @ 54th/discoveries >My personal discovery of LL was only a few weeks ago, amazed by her set >on "Sessions@W.54 Street". aaagh! does anyone know when this'll repeat again? I keep missing it.. :( oh, i might as well ad my "personal discovery" story - NPR. :) it's rare that i ever listen to NPR, but one of the few times i did, heard laura on there and totally dug her:) ~sarah http://lava.home.ml.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:12:03 -0700 From: Bob Wagner Subject: Re: [octoroon] sessions @ 54th/discoveries "Sessions..." has a web site (what else) that lists the shows and, I think, can link you to schedules of your nearest PBS station. The URL is the name of the program (I think). BW ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:59:05 PDT From: "lazy girl" Subject: Re: [octoroon] sessions @ 54th/discoveries >From owner-octoroon@smoe.org Thu Jul 30 16:09:27 1998 >Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] > by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) > id 0z21p2-0002Mm-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:09:20 -0400 >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id TAA26201; > Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:08:14 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:08:14 - -0400 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id TAA26191 > for octoroon-outgoing; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:07:53 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from marine.sonic.net (marine.sonic.net [208.201.224.37]) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with SMTP id TAA26187 > for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:07:50 -0400 (EDT) >Received: (qmail 28522 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1998 23:07:50 - -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO sub.sonic.net) (208.201.224.8) > by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 30 Jul 1998 23:07:50 -0000 >Received: from sonic.net (d161.pm5.sonic.net [208.201.229.161]) by sub.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29542; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:07:45 -0700 >X-envelope-info: >Message-ID: <35C0FDC2.85155F19@sonic.net> >Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:12:03 -0700 >From: Bob Wagner >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 yeah, the address is www.sessionsatwest54th.com i don't when they'll air her again because she was just on about a month ago. yep, thats also where i first saw her too. i was glued to the tv set that night. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of octoroon-digest V1 #27 *****************************