From: owner-navy-soup-digest@smoe.org (navy-soup-digest) To: navy-soup-digest@smoe.org Subject: navy-soup-digest V7 #41 Reply-To: navy-soup@smoe.org Sender: owner-navy-soup-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-navy-soup-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk navy-soup-digest Tuesday, July 27 2004 Volume 07 : Number 041 In This Digest: ----------------- Re: I know I should be a better fan than this ... [Paul Schreiber ] RE: I know I should be a better fan than this ... ["nicole gilbertson" Subject: Re: I know I should be a better fan than this ... On Jul 25, 2004, at 9:20 pm, navy-soup-digest wrote: > Is there a Sarah Slean message board? I know there's one out there for > every other artist on the planet, but I'd really like to join a Sarah > one. There is: http://forum.sarahslean.com/ It's down temporarily (ISP troubles) but should be back up in the next day or two. Paul shad 96c / uw cs 2001 / mac activist / fumbler / eda / headliner / navy-souper fan of / sophie b. / steve poltz / habs / bills / 49ers / "You turn on the radio and it's crap, crap city." -- Atz Kilcher Jr., "A Life Uncommon" [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:36:20 +0000 From: "Tab Siddiqui" Subject: RE: C'est What? Say What? Dan wrote: >That is a real shame about C'est What. Of course it wouldn't be the first >time a rent increase has forced a legendary music club to close against the >wishes of the owners and the fans. We went through a similar experience >here in NYC last year when the renowned Bottom Line Cabaret was shut down >in a similar money dispute with the landlords at NYU. indeed. it's a very similar parallel. >Tab, do you know if the owners intend to find a new location to host their >business if C'est What is forced to close as expected? as the restaurant/pub side of the business will remain open (it's with a different landlord and has a long-term lease), the managers are planning to focus on that and do not plan to open a 'new C'est What' music room elsewhere. there's not really much point - a lot of the magic of the club had to do with the space itself - aside from it being a small and cozy and historic spot, the managers sunk a lot of money into the place to make it sound as good as it does (the wonderful soundguy/music manager Crispin notwithstanding ;)). it's very difficult in Toronto (in any city, really) to open and maintain a live music venue. as i wrote in the article, even C'est What's music room just barely broke even most of the time... some months it even lost money, meaning that the owners had to keep it afloat. which they were more than happy to do, and they were more than willing to put a bit more money into the place in terms of rent in order to keep it open, but they *weren't* willing to be held hostage to the ridiculous demands of a greedy landlord (the guy wanted to *triple* the current rate). will be heartbreaking if the place turns into yet another office or bar or something equally yuppiefied (it's the perfect target for a chain coffeeshop, but there's one just next door, plus several others on the block, though i wouldn't be surprised if they went ahead with one anyhow). or worse, just sit empty (as fellow indie club Ted's Wrecking Yard did for years until some businessman bought it to turn it into a - wait for it - "boutique hotel"). - - tab. _________________________________________________________________ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:01:34 -0700 From: "nicole gilbertson" Subject: RE: I know I should be a better fan than this ... yes! there is an "official" message board (hosted by sarahslean.com) that's been around for nearly 2 and a half years (I believe)... but it's down (AGAIN) while they are making the new website. You can check this address when it returns: http://forum.sarahslean.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl There is also another one (or 2, I'm not quite sure... everyone just cross-posts anyhow) on "livejournal," but I think the demographics for each board are quite different. See for yourself: http://www.livejournal.com/community/nightbugs/ think ferociously! [IMAGE]nicole g [IMAGE] read my words for no one: http://plateofstars.blogspot.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share a single photo or an entire slide show right inside your e-mail with MSN Premium: Join now and get the first two months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:37:01 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: I know I should be a better fan than this ... there are also three yahoogroups devoted exclusively to slean: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sarahslean http://groups.yahoo.com/group/slean http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blackcygne the first is the original slean egroup, the second was the yahoo club which was melded into egroups after yahoo bought egroups and the third is a very low-volume group which seems to be a distribution mechanism for the owner's multimedia files. the yahoogroups are nice since curmudgeons like me can choose to receive posts via e-mail while young whippersnappers can read posts on the web. still, it sure would be nice if there were fewer fora with more participation. *sigh* *whine* woj ------------------------------ End of navy-soup-digest V7 #41 ******************************