From: owner-navy-soup-digest@smoe.org (navy-soup-digest) To: navy-soup-digest@smoe.org Subject: navy-soup-digest V6 #111 Reply-To: navy-soup@smoe.org Sender: owner-navy-soup-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-navy-soup-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk navy-soup-digest Monday, July 28 2003 Volume 06 : Number 111 In This Digest: ----------------- Re: OT: fighting copy protection on Radiohead's "Hail to the Thief" [Vick] RE: fighting copy protection on Radiohead's "Hail to the Thief" ["Amy" Subject: Re: OT: fighting copy protection on Radiohead's "Hail to the Thief" Actually, that is one good point (I have another to make in a second) seeing as you are allowed to make a copy of your own music for yourself (ie: for minidisk, or the tape deck of your car, etc). What I've heard lately makes me soooooo angry... If you purchase writeable CDs, there is a tax of 15 cents per CD that goes to SOCAN (I believe). This really makes me angry. I use a LOT of my recordable CDs for data, ie: backups of my files, a safe way to store digital photos, etc. I burnt all 350 of my photographs from my trip to Leamington on a CD, and 15 cents will go to SOCAN???? This is outrageous!!! I would really like to know what they intend on doing with that money! Let me guess, I burn my files onto CD, and Britney Spears gets 15 cents of my money... File sharing puts the onus on Artists to write GOOD music. Maybe if they all did, they wouldn't have anything to worry about. Napster and other incarnations have introduced me to 10 new groups, many of them international or not yet discovered. It has lead to the purchase of over 22 CDs that I would not have bought otherwise...people who file share and download CDs without buying probably weren't going to fork out the money anyways. Those are the same people who used to copy CDs onto tape when they were released... ugh, I'm off to bed. Thanks for reading... Rei Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:32:06 -0500 From: "Amy" Subject: RE: fighting copy protection on Radiohead's "Hail to the Thief" Hi All! I just wanted to mention that I got this CD and I had no trouble copying it. Of course I didn't just put it in my computer and tell it to copy, but I was able to turn it into MP3s with no trouble at all. I use "CDex" I think we downloaded it free from their website (http://www.cdex.n3.net/). Now, just so as not to piss off anyone who is against copying music, I must clarify...I do this so that I can have all my CDs on my computer hard drive then I have it hooked up to my stereo. I can just hit shuffle in Win Amp and can listen to all 700 of my cds without ever having to move my lazy ass. I don't make CD copies to sell or give away (though I do sometimes make a "car copy" or put a certain song on a mix cd). I love that they sent you a "pure" version of the album. I sure hope more people do what you did. ~Amy Producer, Collected Sounds - a Guide to Women in Music www.collectedsounds.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-navy-soup@smoe.org [mailto:owner-navy-soup@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Kyall Glennie Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 7:21 PM To: navy soup Subject: OT: fighting copy protection on Radiohead's "Hail to the Thief" Hey everyone (somehow I managed to be off this list for the last 7 months... ) As Sarah has recorded a cover of Climbing Up the Walls and plays Bulletproof frequently, I warrant this somewhat of interest to those of you in navy soup land. :) I noticed in the archives of the list that some discussed the copy protection on Radiohead's latest album. I was thoroughly disgusted to find my CD with copy protection, as I copy my favourite albums to my minidisc and this made it impossible to do without the illegal act of (*gasp*) downloading the album. I wrote to EMI and demanded they fix my 'broken' disc (I didn't explain what was wrong with it, just that it didn't work properly). About a month later, I received a new, non copy-protected version of the album - no questions asked, although they did include a long rambling letter about the protection of intellectual property. I now have a 'faulty' version of the disc to give to a friend as well as the pure version for my own keeping. I request that all of you write to EMI's quality control (I think the email address is found on the back of the disc case) and send them your address and request a new album. The more people who raise a stink about stupid copy protection schemes that, if anything, hurt the fans more than the bands, the less likely this trend will continue. It is false marketing to say that a CD with copy protection is actually a regular CD - it does *not* function as intended and will not play on people's computers with, say, Windows 95, or Linux, or old versions of Mac OS - it's just really upsetting that companies like EMI refuse to listen to fans. What is positive is that they did listen enough to send me a new proper version I can use fairly under Canada's copyright laws and not hurt Radiohead's sales whatsoever. So, once again, order a pure version of the disc before it's too late! Support your favourite bands and buy proper (not copy controlled) CD's! peace, kg - ------------------------------- K y a l l G l e n n i e Email sarahslean@kyall.com ------------------------------ End of navy-soup-digest V6 #111 *******************************