From: owner-navy-soup-digest@smoe.org (navy-soup-digest) To: navy-soup-digest@smoe.org Subject: navy-soup-digest V5 #56 Reply-To: navy-soup@smoe.org Sender: owner-navy-soup-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-navy-soup-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk navy-soup-digest Sunday, March 24 2002 Volume 05 : Number 056 In This Digest: ----------------- it has arrived ["Coz Baldwin" ] Re: Off topic ["Sophie" ] RE: Re: Slean in America [James McGarry ] fan stuff :) ["Alex" ] Slean Contest at Chart [James McGarry ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:32:27 -0500 From: "Coz Baldwin" Subject: it has arrived Not too shabby for it only being 4 days since HMV told me they sent it. The postcards are lovely and I'm listening to the first minute of the first song at this very moment so my input on the album will have to wait a bit. I just want to pass on my congratulations to Sarah. I'm very proud of her (as strange as that sounds) and I'm proud that I am part of this elite group who, in due time, will be not-so-elite anymore. Thanks. Virtually yours, Coz http://www.cozbaldwin.com - my site http://www.thecarpetedwall.com - my business ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 07:47:59 -0500 From: "Sophie" Subject: Re: Off topic Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I've decided to go with Tom Waites - Little Drop of Poisen (with one of the chorii edited clean out). Although Pulp - This is Hardcore (Hero Mix) gave it a very close run, and may actually be included as a hidden track. Gina - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Goodlad" To: Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: RE: Off topic > > > I'm looking for suggestions on a "dark" song sung by a male. Nothing > >hard rock, more along the lines of Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man/U2 - Velvet > >Dress or Love is Blindness/Radiohead - Climbing up the Walls. > > What's it for? Nick Drake sings some really beautiful dark stuff, and so > does Tom Waites. Even a few of Jeff Buckley's songs might work. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:38:43 -0500 (EST) From: James McGarry Subject: RE: Re: Slean in America On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Rob Tittel wrote: > So all this talk begs the simple (and probably obvious) question: > If these major labels do not feel they have the resources to > commit to marketing a particular artist, why did they sign them > in the first place? Seems like a big waste of a whole lot of > people's time. > > Maybe I'm oversimplifying here, but if Atlantic never intended > to release Sarah's CD in the U.S. or get some serious financial > muscle behind promoting it, why did they even bother to sign > her? Things change. I'm certain Atlantic on signing Sarah, had full intentions of releasing her album worldwide. But, unfortunately (at least I think its unfortunate) signing artists is like playing the stock market. You hedge your bet. Three years ago tech stocks, great investment. Today, maybe not so great. And with major labels, it all comes down to the bottom line, will this artist make us money (or specifically more money per unit of effort) than _this_ one? Now, throw into this mix convergence, divergent media industries combining (e.g. a web division, an entertainment division and a music division) and concentration (bigger companies buying up smaller ones -- reducing the number of competitors) and 'rationalization' (where basically you make due with as few workers as possible)... and this has all happened at the majors (which do shake things up from time to time for other reasons) during the period from Atlantic expressing an interest in Sarah to signing her to her getting the album done to getting a favourable release slot. The economics of the situation have changed a lot from that Point A to this Point B: convergence, concentration, rationalization within the industry, e-music, and an economic downturn. For them its like, "Ok I'll buy artist X, since I think they will grow in popularity" then realizing months or years later, "ok, if I take my money out of artist X and put it in artist Y, I can make a larger percentage". Personally, though I understand it (at least I like to think so), I don't much like it. Its a hell of a way to distribute Art. Sorry. You touched a nerve Rob. I'm currently working on an article about the music biz called, "How to Resist The Musical Hegemony in One Easy Lesson". :-) James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nardwuar The Human Serviette: "Do the guys with LSD get the most chicks?" Timothy Leary: "The vulgar sordidness of that question is Olympic..." From Nardwuar (the _other_ John Ruskin) vs. Timothy Leary, Vancouver, 1994. ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:15:09 +0100 From: "Alex" Subject: fan stuff :) Hi! I guess that i can be called a hardcore fan now :) I bought a data cable for my Nokia mobile and I made a Sarah Slean picture for it!!! Now each time i turn my phone on, i saw her cute face on it ;) Alex http://www.hiddenplace.net http://jewel.free.fr http://www.islande.org/islande ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:14:16 -0500 (EST) From: James McGarry Subject: Slean Contest at Chart http://www.chartattack.com/contests/20020301-sarahsleancontest.cfm Bonne Chance! James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ End of navy-soup-digest V5 #56 ******************************