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Part 1/1, total size 1322445 bytes: ------------------------------ Cut here ------------------------------ >From WillTommy@aol.com Fri Dec 1 06:46:01 2000 Received: from imo-r20.mail.aol.com (imo-r20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.162]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id GAA15958 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 06:46:00 -0600 (CST) From: WillTommy@aol.com Received: from WillTommy@aol.com by imo-r20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.9b.d805b0f (17230); Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:45:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9b.d805b0f.2758f764@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:45:24 EST Subject: Jane Wiedlin/Go-Go's and Aimee To: AWeiss4338@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: WillTommy@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Like AWeiss, I love Aimee AND Jane Wiedlin, and I'm ecstatic she has a new CD out. Highly recommend the new album - Jane is sweet, angry, and still rocks. Of course, can't wait for the new Go-Go's CD in the Spring - label is Beyond, which helped Blondie come back; album producers did Radiohead and Hole - sounds promising! Watched the VH1 awards...saw Aimee sitting with Michael Hausman a number of times in the audience. Dave Matthews said he'd take anything by Aimee for a desert island disc, and Flea of Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed to Aimee and said she was cool. >From fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Fri Dec 1 12:09:23 2000 Received: from web10808.mail.yahoo.com (web10808.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.250]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id MAA14532 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:09:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001201180852.36937.qmail@web10808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.247.199.26] by web10808.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 01 Dec 2000 10:08:52 PST Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:08:52 -0800 (PST) From: Mann Fann Subject: Flea To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I've always loved Flea and the Peppers regardless, but whenever he said "Hey there's Aimee Mann...she's cool." the man just won me over right there! LOL. --- WillTommy@aol.com wrote: > Like AWeiss, I love Aimee AND Jane Wiedlin, and I'm > ecstatic she has a new CD > out. Highly recommend the new album - Jane is sweet, > angry, and still rocks. > Of course, can't wait for the new Go-Go's CD in the > Spring - label is Beyond, > which helped Blondie come back; album producers did > Radiohead and Hole - > sounds promising! > > Watched the VH1 awards...saw Aimee sitting with > Michael Hausman a number of > times in the audience. Dave Matthews said he'd take > anything by Aimee for a > desert island disc, and Flea of Red Hot Chili > Peppers pointed to Aimee and > said she was cool. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 1 13:00:50 2000 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA19195 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:00:49 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.a9.e4bc63f (3934); Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:00:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:00:16 EST Subject: Re: Jane Wiedlin/Go-Go's and Aimee To: WillTommy@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a9.e4bc63f.27594f40_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_a9.e4bc63f.27594f40_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/1/00 7:46:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, WillTommy@aol.com writes: > Subj: Jane Wiedlin/Go-Go's and Aimee > Date: 12/1/00 7:46:24 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: WillTommy@aol.com > Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > Reply-to: WillTommy@aol.com > To: AWeiss4338@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > > > > > Like AWeiss, I love Aimee AND Jane Wiedlin, and I'm ecstatic she has a new > CD > out. Highly recommend the new album - Jane is sweet, angry, and still > rocks. > Of course, can't wait for the new Go-Go's CD in the Spring - label is > Beyond, > which helped Blondie come back; album producers did Radiohead and Hole - > sounds promising! > > Watched the VH1 awards...saw Aimee sitting with Michael Hausman a number of > times in the audience. Dave Matthews said he'd take anything by Aimee for a > desert island disc, and Flea of Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed to Aimee and > said she was cool. > > This sounds very cool, Jane's new album, I can't wait to get it. Wish I'd seen the Vh-1 awards, dumb question, did Aimee win. Andrea --part1_a9.e4bc63f.27594f40_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/1/00 7:46:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
WillTommy@aol.com writes:


Subj: Jane Wiedlin/Go-Go's and Aimee
Date: 12/1/00 7:46:24 AM Eastern Standard Time
From:    WillTommy@aol.com
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To:    AWeiss4338@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu




Like AWeiss, I love Aimee AND Jane Wiedlin, and I'm ecstatic she has a new
CD
out. Highly recommend the new album - Jane is sweet, angry, and still
rocks.
Of course, can't wait for the new Go-Go's CD in the Spring - label is
Beyond,
which helped Blondie come back; album producers did Radiohead and Hole -
sounds promising!

Watched the VH1 awards...saw Aimee sitting with Michael Hausman a number of
times in the audience. Dave Matthews said he'd take anything by Aimee for a
desert island disc, and Flea of Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed to Aimee and
said she was cool.



This sounds very cool, Jane's new album, I can't wait to get it.
Wish I'd seen the Vh-1 awards, dumb question, did Aimee win.
Andrea --part1_a9.e4bc63f.27594f40_boundary-- >From jillpw@hotmail.com Fri Dec 1 14:19:37 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f109.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.109]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA00617 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:19:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:19:03 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Dec 2000 20:19:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: AWeiss4338@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Jane Wiedlin/Go-Go's and Aimee Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:19:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2000 20:19:03.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2A87FD0:01C05BD3] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The Corrs won the Best Kept Secret Award Andrea Weiss wrote: >Wish I'd seen the Vh-1 awards, dumb question, did Aimee win. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From 103125.1703@compuserve.com Fri Dec 1 14:43:20 2000 Received: from spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (ds-img-7.compuserve.com [149.174.206.153]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA03629 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:43:19 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id PAA18556 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:42:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:42:14 -0500 From: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> Subject: OT-Grant-Lee Phillips Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu To: Mannlist Message-ID: <200012011542_MC2-BCD7-FE74@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id OAA03631 Reply-To: 103125.1703@compuserve.com X-Sender: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Grant-Lee Phillips, who will be opening for Aimee this month in California, has a really good Web site www.grantleephillips.com which links to Aimee's. If you aren't familiar with him, he has written many great songs and is a very entertaining, often hysterical live performer with a phenomenal voice. His site has a message board ("Messages from Beyond") where he answers questions and responds to comments. At one point recently, a fan responding to news that he was opening for Aimee said, "She should be opening for Grant!! I thought she fell off the earth with the rest of the one-hit-wonders from the 80's. " Bill Bonk who toured with Aimee and was in the final version of Grant Lee Buffalo responded, "Although many of you may only know Aimee from her Til Tuesday work, I feel she has totally eclipsed that band with her solo albums. I became a true fan while I was playing guitar with her for the I'm With Stupid tours (UK and US) and saw the reaction of enlightened fans from both sides of the Pond. I'm glad she's finally getting noticed (her music stunningly framed in the Magnolia movie).... check out I'm With Stupid. The depth of the melody and lyrics will inspire you." If you have tickets to any or all of the California shows, make sure you get there early enough to see Grant. >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Fri Dec 1 15:05:07 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA06259 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:05:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.5) with ESMTP id eB1L54A14053; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:05:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A281288.2040208@ucdavis.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:05:12 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001130 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 103125.1703@compuserve.com CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT-Grant-Lee Phillips References: <200012011542_MC2-BCD7-FE74@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Jim wrote: > At one point recently, a fan > responding to news that he was opening for Aimee said, "She should be > opening for Grant!! I thought she fell off the earth with the rest of the > one-hit-wonders from the 80's. " That was the similar reaction one of my friends said when I recently mentioned to her that I love Aimee's music. She's only familiar with Voices Carry, but she says that she's now interesting in listing to Aimee's recent work. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From russn@thestandard.com Fri Dec 1 15:40:33 2000 Received: from mail.thestandard.com (mail.thestandard.net [209.0.34.132]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA11094 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:40:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from [172.16.11.67] (172.16.11.67 [172.16.11.67]) by mail.thestandard.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 4G9X58T2; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:34:09 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: russn@mail.thestandard.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:51:58 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Russ Nordmeyer Subject: Aimee at VH1-picture Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: russn@thestandard.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This link should take you to a photo of Aimee at the awards show. Otherwise, just go to VH1 and find the My Music link. http://www.vh1.com/mymusic/gallery/index.jhtml?start=46 Russ >From Ficman@Earthlink.net Fri Dec 1 18:07:02 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA01100 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:07:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from bitchslapper (sdn-ar-002inlafaP282.dialsprint.net [158.252.109.212]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23511 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:06:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Scott Fickle" To: "Mannlist" Subject: FW: Aimee at VH1-picture Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:10:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: Ficman@Earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN MAN Aimee Looks Great, she's still the best kept secret to all of us.....:-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Russ Nordmeyer Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 4:52 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee at VH1-picture This link should take you to a photo of Aimee at the awards show. Otherwise, just go to VH1 and find the My Music link. http://www.vh1.com/mymusic/gallery/index.jhtml?start=46 Russ >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 1 18:55:02 2000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA15752 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:55:01 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id i.3b.d0f176e (4224); Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:54:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3b.d0f176e.2759a239@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:54:17 EST Subject: Re: Jane Wiedlin/Go-Go's and Aimee To: jillpw@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-01 15:19:06 EST, jillpw@hotmail.com writes: > The Corrs won the Best Kept Secret Award > Rats! I'm not surprised though, they were leading the vote. Breathless isn't a bad song, but they sound a little too much like the Cranberries for my taste. Aimee deserves better. Andrea >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Fri Dec 1 19:18:54 2000 Received: from imo-r17.mail.aol.com (imo-r17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA17711 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:18:54 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.27.e4e8f4f (4327) for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:18:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <27.e4e8f4f.2759a7d5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:18:13 EST Subject: Re: Aimee at VH1-picture To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 114 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Wow, Aimee looks great! It's also nice that she is getting recognition from her peers within the music industry- Dave Mathews and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They obviously know what we already knew about Aimee. So, Aimee did not win in the Best-Kept Secret category? Is it too late to demand a hand recount of the votes? Steve >From jillpw@hotmail.com Fri Dec 1 19:35:32 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f98.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.98]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA19131 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:35:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:35:00 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Dec 2000 01:35:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Best Kept Secret Award Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 20:35:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2000 01:35:00.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[163D10B0:01C05C00] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Another note about the award....we shouldn't feel too bad that Aimee didn't win. When I spoke with Michael Hausman last week he said that he did not expect Aimee would win the award and that the Corrs are multi platinum artists which puts them in a different league because they have so many more fans. He also strongly credits the efforts of the Mannlist with getting Aimee nominated in the first place. Aimee was very pleased just to be nominated and they were both very happy to be going to the show. Jill _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From ldphill@earthlink.net Fri Dec 1 20:31:57 2000 Received: from rmx194-mta.mail.com (rmx194-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA23728 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:31:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from web622-wrb.mail.com (web622-wrb.mail.com [165.251.33.62]) by rmx194-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA21013 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:31:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <383986486.975724314903.JavaMail.root@web622-wrb.mail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:31:54 -0500 (EST) From: Lauren Phillips To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 129.120.88.95 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Entertainment Weekly posted a brief on the "Ultimate Collection" fracas...nothing we haven't all heard before, but maybe it got in the magazine this week. It's at http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6595,90335,00.html if anyone's interested. Lauren >From aklein@neo.rr.com Fri Dec 1 20:32:11 2000 Received: from neo-dial.neo.rr.com (neo-dial.neo.rr.com [204.210.223.26]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA23763 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:32:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from buddy (a1-2f187.neo.rr.com [24.93.175.187]) by neo-dial.neo.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA08082; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:32:04 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Anita Klein" To: "MANNLIST" , Subject: RE: Best Kept Secret Award Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:31:53 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I don't think we should feel bad either. I thought about this today and here's my logic: The real best kept secret would be the person who got the least votes. The Corrs are apparently pretty popular, much more than Aimee. If someone is a "best kept secret" they are not going to win a popularity contest which is what the category actually was. In my opinion, the category is flawed. Anita -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Jill Weisenfeld Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:35 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Best Kept Secret Award Another note about the award....we shouldn't feel too bad that Aimee didn't win. When I spoke with Michael Hausman last week he said that he did not expect Aimee would win the award and that the Corrs are multi platinum artists which puts them in a different league because they have so many more fans. He also strongly credits the efforts of the Mannlist with getting Aimee nominated in the first place. Aimee was very pleased just to be nominated and they were both very happy to be going to the show. Jill ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Fri Dec 1 21:20:41 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA26821 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:20:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.5) with ESMTP id eB23KhA14245 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:20:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A286A93.9040406@ucdavis.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 19:20:51 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001130 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Jane Wiedlin/Go-Go's and Aimee References: <3b.d0f176e.2759a239@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: > Rats! I'm not surprised though, they were leading the vote. Breathless isn't > a bad song, but they sound a little too much like the Cranberries for my > taste. Aimee deserves better. > Andrea Personally, I prefer their instrumentals much better. I think their current CD only has one instrument, but their older CD that I own has several songless instrumentals that are simply beautiful to listen to. Anyway, we shouldn't be too fussed up about award shows. Award shows, by their inherient nature since they simply cannot honor everyone unless they award a gazillion categories, always ignore someone. People really deserving of that honor tend to be the ones often ignored. But it would have been nice though, and would especially give Aimee a publicity boost to those unfamiliar with her music. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 1 23:13:11 2000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA07854 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 23:13:10 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.db.d0b8bc1 (4556) for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:12:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:12:25 EST Subject: The Alice Project again somewhat OT To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Remember that band I mentioned that was very influenced by Aimee. I just heard The Alice Project's album today, Travling With Lady Berlin. It's great. And yeah, I can hear Aimee in it. Alice Leon can really sing. www.thealiceproject.com for ordering info, and more on the band. Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 1 23:23:40 2000 Received: from imo-r12.mail.aol.com (imo-r12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA10055 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 23:23:39 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.d3.d4f8644 (4556); Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:23:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:23:06 EST Subject: Re: The Alice Project again somewhat OT To: AWeiss4338@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-02 00:14:20 EST, AWeiss4338@aol.com writes: > And yeah, I can hear Aimee in it. Aimee is not on this album though, the band was influenced by her. Andrea >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sat Dec 2 00:07:43 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f142.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.142]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA14235 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:07:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:07:11 -0800 Received: from 172.137.204.181 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Dec 2000 06:07:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.137.204.181] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Seattle *WEAKLY* Disses La Mann...again! Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 21:07:10 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2000 06:07:11.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BD0DF40:01C05C26] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was having lunch in downtown Seattle at a cozy Indian restaurant (yes, curry again, Jill) with fellow Mannlister, Nadja, when she gingerly slides the latest issue of Seattle Weekly next to me and suggests that perhaps I read what those buffoons wrote AFTER we eat. Here is the link and the exact *Aimee pertinent* excerpt of the long article in the Culture Bunker column appears. Beth wrote a very scathing letter to the editor about these *journalists* the last time. I'd say it was my turn, but I actually AGREED with part of what they said (guess with which *P*art *T*hat I *A*greed): http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0048/the-cohen.shtml [Dishwater-dull diva Aimee Mann is apparently most pissed off about the new Ultimate Collection CD her old record company threw together to capitalize on her current status as thirtysomething indie queen. "I personally consider it to be absolute crap," Aimee seethes. Funny, that's what we think about her entire oeuvre. In fact, we feel the same about her boring husband and all of his friends, especially that no-talent Paul Thomas Anderson, who will most certainly make the worst (and longest) Adam Sandler movie ever. . . . ] There is a difference between something being bad and it just not being their *cup of tea*. Why do they have to trash something they don't like that is CLEARLY quality?!! On another note, I was scuttling about town dropping off demo CDs to record stores and noticed that about half the stores had taken down their Aimee Mann displays. This was very bad timing, what with the holidays coming up, Aimee coming TO town and freshly sticker CDs in the bins. I noticed several of the stores were EXTREMELY low on Mann CDs. As for the awards, I said long ago that anyone nominated in that category couldn't be a very well-kept secret. The flawed categories were created by fans--not that VH1 officials come up with much better ones on their own. The peer recognition is great, but nothing new. We just hear more about it now, because Aimee is visible enough for folks to be quoting commenting on it publicly. I saw BOUNCE this week and noticed a Dido song on the soundtrack. Dido was also on Gwenyth's SLIDING DOORS soundtrack (with Aimee). Add this to Aimee on both Cruise piucs, MAGNOLIA and JERRY MAGUIRE and I was just wondering, do actors have any clout on getting certain singers work on soundtracks (without being *the* producer/decision maker like Jennifer Jason Leigh)?? Mr. Melancon, how did your musician buddies get that gig on The Chippendale Murders soundtrack and how does one apply for Best Boy or Grip on the sequel??? How would that look on a resume? Tune in next week, same Mann-time, same Mann-channel... _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sat Dec 2 00:26:19 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA16904 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:26:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.5) with ESMTP id eB26QQA28089 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:26:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A289619.1070108@ucdavis.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 22:26:33 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001130 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Seattle *WEAKLY* Disses La Mann...again! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Seems like someone's personal rant column more than anything. I'm not familiar with the Seatle Weekly, maybe because I don't live there, but what was the first time they dissed her? -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From ldphill@earthlink.net Sat Dec 2 19:06:51 2000 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA00505 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2000 19:06:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust111.tnt4.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.24.200.111]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08342 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2000 17:06:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000c01c05cc6$6035ea40$6fc8183f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: "Mannlist" Subject: new article... Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 19:14:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C05C94.139C4EE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C05C94.139C4EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody else see this? Interesting stuff http://home.mindspring.com/~sauniere/2000/nm1100.htm=20 Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's = wearing off." - Lauren ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C05C94.139C4EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anybody else see this? Interesting=20 stuff
 
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Lauren
 
"At this point, I'm running on coffee = and=20 sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - = Lauren
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C05C94.139C4EE0-- >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Sun Dec 3 00:45:13 2000 Received: from imo-r20.mail.aol.com (imo-r20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.162]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA27639 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 00:45:12 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-r20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.f3.525324d (7543) for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 01:44:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 01:44:38 EST Subject: Aimee songs in concert To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 126 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I've been lucky enough to have seen 3 Aimee shows this year and will be going to my 4th show next week when she comes to San Francisco. I would like to ask anyone that has been to an Aimee concert: what song(s) would you most like to hear Aimee do in concert that you have not seen her do before? I'll start this out with my short list: 1. Mr. Harris 2. I've Had It 3. I Could Hurt You Now (guess what my favorite Aimee album is) 4. You're With Stupid Now (I've always thought this would be a great opening song- "Now on with the show....") Anybody have anything else? Steve (hoping for Mr. Harris next week) >From Sycamoe2@cs.com Sun Dec 3 10:34:23 2000 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA24517 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 10:34:22 -0600 (CST) From: Sycamoe2@cs.com Received: from Sycamoe2@cs.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.ae.de154a4 (9678); Sun, 3 Dec 2000 11:33:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 11:33:47 EST Subject: Re: Aimee songs in concert To: Brwnshoe@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown sub 107 Reply-To: Sycamoe2@cs.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN When I saw Aimee she asked for requests, then joked about not doing them. I believe she was hoping to hear something they had rehearsed for the show. For whatever reason, I just couldn't think of MOMENTUM, which I feel is a kickin' song. It's got a different flavor than most of anything else she's done. Harry Z. >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sun Dec 3 11:38:44 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f125.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.125]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA27525 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 11:38:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 09:38:13 -0800 Received: from 63.31.22.185 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 03 Dec 2000 17:38:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.31.22.185] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: Brwnshoe@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee songs in concert Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 12:38:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2000 17:38:13.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFA6D270:01C05D4F] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I've Had It and Ray. Steve wrote: > I would like to ask anyone that has been to an Aimee concert: what >song(s) would you most like to hear Aimee do in concert that you have not >seen her do before? > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From hoodoomon@yahoo.com Sun Dec 3 12:49:25 2000 Received: from web2005.mail.yahoo.com (web2005.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.205]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id MAA00339 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 12:49:25 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 1998 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2000 18:49:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20001203184924.1997.qmail@web2005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.4.172.214] by web2005.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:49:24 PST Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 10:49:24 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Lieberman Reply-To: hoodoomon@bigfoot.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1365180540-975869364=:1027" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1365180540-975869364=:1027 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, well, well!! I'm surprised. I was beginning to think this site was for music snobs only (I say that only because of that whole grammar thing. That really bugged me). The Go-Go's? You guys like the Go-Go's? FANTASTIC!! They were one of the best 80's bands around (my favorite, as a matter of fact). My dream concert line-up would include: The Go-Go's, Aimee Mann, Hoodoo Gurus, and Oingo Boingo. I'd be in heaven!! --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1365180540-975869364=:1027 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Well, well, well!!  I'm surprised.  I was beginning to think this site was for music snobs only (I say that only because of that whole grammar thing. That really bugged me).  The Go-Go's?  You guys like the Go-Go's?  FANTASTIC!!  They were one of the best 80's bands around (my favorite, as a matter of fact).  My dream concert line-up would include:

The Go-Go's, Aimee Mann, Hoodoo Gurus, and Oingo Boingo.  I'd be in heaven!!



Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1365180540-975869364=:1027-- >From Craigmacneil@aol.com Sun Dec 3 13:27:29 2000 Received: from imo-r17.mail.aol.com (imo-r17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA02085 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 13:27:28 -0600 (CST) From: Craigmacneil@aol.com Received: from Craigmacneil@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id i.15.c9216d4 (18251); Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:26:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <15.c9216d4.275bf87b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:26:51 EST Subject: Re: Aimee songs in concert To: jillpw@hotmail.com, Brwnshoe@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15.c9216d4.275bf87b_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: Craigmacneil@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_15.c9216d4.275bf87b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit superball. LOUD. --part1_15.c9216d4.275bf87b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit superball.  LOUD.   --part1_15.c9216d4.275bf87b_boundary-- >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sun Dec 3 14:02:12 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA03963 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:02:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.5) with ESMTP id eB3K1tR09894 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 12:01:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A2AA6AB.4080704@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 12:01:47 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001202 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: References: <20001203184924.1997.qmail@web2005.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Michael Lieberman wrote: > Well, well, well!! I'm surprised. I was beginning to think this site > was for music snobs only (I say that only because of that whole grammar > thing. That really bugged me). The Go-Go's? You guys like the > Go-Go's? FANTASTIC!! They were one of the best 80's bands around (my > favorite, as a matter of fact). My dream concert line-up would include: > > The Go-Go's, Aimee Mann, Hoodoo Gurus, and Oingo Boingo. I'd be in heaven!! We have our moods, I've been on enough mailing lists to know to never judge them quickly :) -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From HorseChick00000@aol.com Sun Dec 3 15:50:47 2000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA08514 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 15:50:47 -0600 (CST) From: HorseChick00000@aol.com Received: from HorseChick00000@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id i.15.c93b65c (4400); Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:50:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <15.c93b65c.275c1a0f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:50:07 EST Subject: Re: Aimee songs in concert To: jillpw@hotmail.com CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: HorseChick00000@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I Shouldv'e Known I've never seen her do that one. Allyn >From SonicVI@aol.com Sun Dec 3 16:24:53 2000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA09445 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:24:52 -0600 (CST) From: SonicVI@aol.com Received: from SonicVI@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.33.) id g.83.3b1c2ed (4530) for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:24:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <83.3b1c2ed.275c2210@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:24:16 EST Subject: The Buddy System To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 109 Reply-To: SonicVI@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello, I found The Buddy System LP featuring Buddy Judge today. I've only heard a little bit about this band. Is it particularly rare? Daniel >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sun Dec 3 16:48:12 2000 Received: from web1405.mail.yahoo.com (web1405.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.169]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id QAA10309 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:48:11 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 16989 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2000 23:03:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20001203230309.16988.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.81.216.197] by web1405.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:03:09 PST Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 15:03:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: songs I want to hear live To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1713258270-975884589=:8334" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1713258270-975884589=:8334 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mr. Harris Momentum Nothing is Good Enough (w/ vocals) Satellite Voices Carry (i've never heard it live) P.S. how can you play CDs backwards? or is it impossible? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1713258270-975884589=:8334 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Mr. Harris

Momentum

Nothing is Good Enough (w/ vocals)

Satellite

Voices Carry (i've never heard it live)

P.S. how can you play CDs backwards? or is it impossible?


Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1713258270-975884589=:8334-- >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sun Dec 3 17:13:37 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA11230 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:13:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.5) with ESMTP id eB3NDYR24707 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 15:13:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A2AD397.7010702@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:13:27 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001203 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: songs I want to hear live References: <20001203230309.16988.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Lisa Letostak wrote: > Nothing is Good Enough (w/ vocals) I would love to hear both the vocal and instrumental version. It's funny, the Magnolia soundtrack was my first Aimee CD, and I grew attached and used to the instrumental version of "Nothing is Good Enough" on the soundtrack. When I bought the B#2 and heard the vocal version, it seemed so alien. I mean I love the song, but at that time I wasn't used to hear words go with the instruments, heh. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sun Dec 3 17:22:41 2000 Received: from web1405.mail.yahoo.com (web1405.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.169]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id RAA12054 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:22:40 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 27782 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2000 23:37:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20001203233739.27781.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.81.216.197] by web1405.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:37:39 PST Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 15:37:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: Re: songs I want to hear live To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-137806862-975886659=:24874" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-137806862-975886659=:24874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii me too! now I try to sing the lyrics to the Magnolia version --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-137806862-975886659=:24874 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii me too! now I try to sing the lyrics to the Magnolia version


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Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-137806862-975886659=:24874-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sun Dec 3 17:25:28 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA12287 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:25:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.67.204]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001203232457.GQVU2402.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 23:24:57 +0000 Message-ID: <062f01c05d80$4107c840$f7404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: Songs I want to hear live.... Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:24:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_062C_01C05D56.57717D80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_062C_01C05D56.57717D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would settle for anything live! It's been too long and I'm suffering = withdraw.=20 How about a Christmas concert? Aimee could come to my house and stand = outside and sing Christmas carols! Of course she would be frozen solid = before I got to the door! beachbum13 (spoiled) ------=_NextPart_000_062C_01C05D56.57717D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would settle for anything live! It's been too long and I'm = suffering=20 withdraw.
 
How about a Christmas concert? Aimee could come to my house and = stand=20 outside and sing Christmas carols! Of course she would be frozen solid = before I=20 got to the door!
 
beachbum13 (spoiled)
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_062C_01C05D56.57717D80-- >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sun Dec 3 17:48:43 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f107.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.107]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA14950 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:48:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 15:48:11 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 03 Dec 2000 23:48:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: songs I want to hear live Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 18:48:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2000 23:48:11.0681 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EDBD910:01C05D83] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN That's interesting. You are the third person who has mentioned that. I have a good friend who really doesn't like the vocal version because she got used to the instrumental. I heard the vocal version first from the preview EP so the lyrics didn't sound alien to me. Jill Alex wrote: It's funny, the Magnolia soundtrack was my first >Aimee CD, and I grew attached and used to the instrumental >version of "Nothing is Good Enough" on the soundtrack. When >I bought the B#2 and heard the vocal version, it seemed so >alien. I mean I love the song, but at that time I wasn't >used to hear words go with the instruments, heh. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From speed3@hawaii.rr.com Sun Dec 3 17:53:56 2000 Received: from hawaii.rr.com (hnlmail1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.227.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA15056 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:53:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.25.249.219] ([24.25.249.219]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.617.61); Sun, 3 Dec 2000 13:53:52 -1000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 13:55:06 -1000 Subject: Vocal Version of "Nothing Is Good Enough" From: Darcy To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speed3@hawaii.rr.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I never thought "Nothing Is Good Enough" was a stand out until I heard the version with vocals. Now it's one of my favorite songs. I think it's because, to me, Aimee's voice acts as another instrument, and an essential instrument at that. The "Magnolia" version of the song is akin to listening to "Purple Haze" without the guitar. Darcy >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sun Dec 3 18:08:17 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA15577 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:08:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.5) with ESMTP id eB4086R29281; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:08:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A2AE05F.2050202@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:07:59 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001203 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: speed3@hawaii.rr.com CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Vocal Version of "Nothing Is Good Enough" References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Darcy wrote: > I never thought "Nothing Is Good Enough" was a stand out until I heard the > version with vocals. Now it's one of my favorite songs. I think it's > because, to me, Aimee's voice acts as another instrument, and an essential > instrument at that. The "Magnolia" version of the song is akin to listening > to "Purple Haze" without the guitar. > > Darcy Aimee's voice is definitely like another instrument that is merged with the rest of the song, but to me when the voice isn't there in the instrumental version, it isn't missing an arm or a leg. It just becomes something else that stands out on its own, even though the only thing different is the absence of Aimee's voice. I love both the vocal and instrumental versions of "Nothing is Good Enough," even though I was initially caught off guard by the vocal version when I first got B#2. I don't think I can say which one I love listening to more since it's like an apples and oranges thing. To me, both are separate and great in the own right. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From DMedsker@aol.com Sun Dec 3 18:39:15 2000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA25273 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:39:15 -0600 (CST) From: DMedsker@aol.com Received: from DMedsker@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.bb.96ec0e7 (4322) for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 19:38:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 19:38:38 EST Subject: Live Requests To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 109 Reply-To: DMedsker@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'll start this out with my short list: > 1. Mr. Harris > 2. I've Had It Boy, do I feel lucky. I've seen her do both of these songs. I was also lucky enough to catch Til Tuesday (with Jon and Buddy) so I got to hear some of that stuff live, things like J For Jules, David Denies, Will She Just Fall Down and Why Must I, that she'll never play again. That said, here's my wish list: 1) Have Mercy 2) Crash and Burn 3) Build That Wall I also wouldn't mind seeing her play Say Anything, Ray and All Over Now a little more often. David >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sun Dec 3 19:30:32 2000 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA28365 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 19:30:31 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id 8.7a.d79aa41 (3704); Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:29:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7a.d79aa41.275c4d8e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:29:50 EST Subject: Re: To: hoodoomon@bigfoot.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7a.d79aa41.275c4d8e_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_7a.d79aa41.275c4d8e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/3/00 1:50:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, hoodoomon@yahoo.com writes: > Well, well, well!! I'm surprised. I was beginning to think this site was > for music snobs only (I say that only because of that whole grammar thing. > That really bugged me). The Go-Go's? You guys like the Go-Go's? > FANTASTIC!! They were one of the best 80's bands around (my favorite, as a > matter of fact). My dream concert line-up would include: > The Go-Go's, Aimee Mann, Hoodoo Gurus, and Oingo Boingo. I'd be in heaven!! > > > Wow the Hoodoo Gurus, I havent heard about them, or anything from them in years. Got to see them live many years ago opening for the Bangles, at one of Philadelphia's universities I can't remember which one. They were great. Loud too, although I was sitting next to a speaker the whole time. Also saw the Go-Go's in philly too, at the Mann Music Center, on a bill with INXS and the Hooters. Cool show, even if the opening bands weren't so good. The GG's last tour before they broke up, and I felt lucky to have seen them after that happened. Andrea --part1_7a.d79aa41.275c4d8e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/3/00 1:50:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hoodoomon@yahoo.com writes:


Well, well, well!!  I'm surprised.  I was beginning to think this site was
for music snobs only (I say that only because of that whole grammar thing.
That really bugged me).  The Go-Go's?  You guys like the Go-Go's?  
FANTASTIC!!  They were one of the best 80's bands around (my favorite, as a
matter of fact).  My dream concert line-up would include:
The Go-Go's, Aimee Mann, Hoodoo Gurus, and Oingo Boingo.  I'd be in heaven!!




Wow the Hoodoo Gurus, I havent heard about them, or anything from them in
years. Got to see them live many years ago opening for the Bangles, at one of
Philadelphia's universities I can't remember which one.  They were great.  
Loud too, although I was sitting next to a speaker the whole time. Also saw
the Go-Go's in philly too, at the Mann Music Center, on a bill with INXS and
the Hooters.  Cool show, even if the opening bands weren't so good.  The GG's
last tour before they broke up, and I felt lucky to have seen them after that
happened.
Andrea --part1_7a.d79aa41.275c4d8e_boundary-- >From sproude@earthlink.net Sun Dec 3 19:42:42 2000 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA28661 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 19:42:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from earthlink.net (sdn-ar-001sccharP248.dialsprint.net [158.252.92.138]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11637 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:42:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A2AF757.8C21FDDC@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 20:45:59 -0500 From: SMP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: References: <7a.d79aa41.275c4d8e@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------47DB2FE36C692E96FAA1A77C" Reply-To: sproude@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --------------47DB2FE36C692E96FAA1A77C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/3/00 1:50:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, > hoodoomon@yahoo.com writes: > > > >> Well, well, well!! I'm surprised. I was beginning to think this >> site was >> for music snobs only (I say that only because of that whole grammar >> thing. >> That really bugged me). The Go-Go's? You guys like the Go-Go's? >> FANTASTIC!! They were one of the best 80's bands around (my >> favorite, as a >> matter of fact). My dream concert line-up would include: >> The Go-Go's, Aimee Mann, Hoodoo Gurus, and Oingo Boingo. I'd be in >> heaven!! >> >> > > > I loved the Go-Go's growing up (and still do) .If my hair wasn't cut like Aimee's when I was in high school, then it was a belinda carlisle doo. One of the most interesting nights of my life was spent sneaking off at age 17 to see the Go-Gos about 50 miles from boston without parental consent. I won't even go there hehehe. --------------47DB2FE36C692E96FAA1A77C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 12/3/00 1:50:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hoodoomon@yahoo.com writes:
 
 
Well, well, well!!  I'm surprised.  I was beginning to think this site was
for music snobs only (I say that only because of that whole grammar thing.
That really bugged me).  The Go-Go's?  You guys like the Go-Go's?
FANTASTIC!!  They were one of the best 80's bands around (my favorite, as a
matter of fact).  My dream concert line-up would include:
The Go-Go's, Aimee Mann, Hoodoo Gurus, and Oingo Boingo.  I'd be in heaven!!
 
 

 
I loved the Go-Go's growing up  (and still do) .If my hair wasn't cut like Aimee's when I was in high school, then it was a belinda carlisle doo.  One of the most interesting nights of my life was spent sneaking off at age 17 to see the Go-Gos about 50 miles from boston without parental consent.  I won't even go there hehehe. --------------47DB2FE36C692E96FAA1A77C-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sun Dec 3 19:53:35 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA29313 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 19:53:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.64.225]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001204015300.IADN2402.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 01:53:00 +0000 Message-ID: <068301c05d94$e33ad300$f7404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: OT - Go-Go-s Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:52:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0680_01C05D6A.F9A48840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0680_01C05D6A.F9A48840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was obsessed with the Go-Go's in the early 80's. A friend of mine and = I would buy anything by female vocalist and he discovered the Go-Go's = before the got any air play. He saw them at Emerald City (bar) in Cherry = Hill NJ during the summer The show was broadcast on the radio on WMMR = and I still have a worn out cassette of the show. After that they came back in November and played a college in Philly. = The next weekend we saw them at the old Capital Theater in Passaic and = then in NYC at the Palladium. At the Capital we got to meet them and = then again in NY. The night at the Capital they got their gold albums = for I think it was "Our Lips Are Sealed". It was really cool because = they were on cloud nine. Jane Wiedlin was by far the nicest. Kathy was = totally aloof. Belinda, Charlotte and Gina were pleasant and friendly. I = got photos and autographs that I still cherish. I saw them again at the Spectrum warming up for the Police and then = again in Springfield MA. We had backstage passes for the Springfield = show but the Police pulled the plug on them before they could do an = encore so they left pissed off and the Police's security would not let = anyone with a Go-Go's pass back stage. I was pissed because I almost got = arrested trying to get my camera in the show. (Something about cameras = and Springfield!!!) Anyway the Go-Go's first album is a definite desert island disc!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0680_01C05D6A.F9A48840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was obsessed with the Go-Go's in the early 80's. A friend of mine = and I=20 would buy anything by female vocalist and he discovered the Go-Go's = before the=20 got any air play. He saw them at Emerald City (bar) in Cherry Hill NJ = during the=20 summer  The show was broadcast on the radio on WMMR and I still = have a worn=20 out cassette of the show.
 
After that they came back in November and played a college in = Philly. The=20 next weekend we saw them at the old Capital Theater in Passaic and then = in NYC=20 at the Palladium. At the Capital we got to meet them and then again in = NY. The=20 night at the Capital they got their gold albums for I think it was "Our = Lips Are=20 Sealed". It was really cool because they were on cloud nine. Jane = Wiedlin was by=20 far the nicest. Kathy was totally aloof. Belinda, Charlotte and Gina = were=20 pleasant and friendly. I got photos and autographs that I still = cherish.
 
I saw them again at the Spectrum warming up for the Police and then = again=20 in Springfield MA. We had backstage passes for the Springfield show but = the=20 Police pulled the plug on them before they could do an encore so they = left=20 pissed off and the Police's security would not let anyone with a Go-Go's = pass=20 back stage. I was pissed because I almost got arrested trying to get my = camera=20 in the show. (Something about cameras and Springfield!!!)
 
Anyway the Go-Go's first album is a definite desert island disc! =
 
------=_NextPart_000_0680_01C05D6A.F9A48840-- >From Ficman@Earthlink.net Sun Dec 3 20:06:07 2000 Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA29670 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:06:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from bitchslapper (sdn-ar-001inlafaP021.dialsprint.net [158.252.110.29]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA26195 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:06:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Scott Fickle" To: "Mannlist" Subject: OT - Go Go's Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:08:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Reply-To: Ficman@Earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I think it's a riot so many people out here enjoyed the Go Go's so much, I LOVED them. I have had a long time crush on Jane Wiedlin, I thought I was going to have to be in the closet on this one forever... I am Free... free at last...LOL I used to hide their Albums so nobody would know I had them, unbelievable... >From ldphill@earthlink.net Sun Dec 3 20:49:59 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA01098 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:49:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust72.tnt5.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.25.183.72]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA14414 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:49:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002e01c05d9d$ebee8560$48b7193f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: "Mannlist" References: <3A2AE05F.2050202@ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: Vocal Version of "Nothing Is Good Enough" Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:57:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I agree - Magnolia was my first Aimee CD as well. I remember looking at the lyrics and trying to figure out how the hell to fit them to the song...then when I got B#2 it was incredible how easy she made it seem. I can't listen to the instrumental "Nothing Is Good Enough" without either hearing Aimee's voice or trying to sing along. Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Vocal Version of "Nothing Is Good Enough" > Darcy wrote: > > > I never thought "Nothing Is Good Enough" was a stand out until I heard the > > version with vocals. Now it's one of my favorite songs. I think it's > > because, to me, Aimee's voice acts as another instrument, and an essential > > instrument at that. The "Magnolia" version of the song is akin to listening > > to "Purple Haze" without the guitar. > > > > Darcy > > Aimee's voice is definitely like another instrument that is > merged with the rest of the song, but to me when the voice > isn't there in the instrumental version, it isn't missing an > arm or a leg. It just becomes something else that stands out > on its own, even though the only thing different is the > absence of Aimee's voice. I love both the vocal and > instrumental versions of "Nothing is Good Enough," even > though I was initially caught off guard by the vocal version > when I first got B#2. > > I don't think I can say which one I love listening to more > since it's like an apples and oranges thing. To me, both are > separate and great in the own right. > > -- > Alex <:3)~~ > http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ > > >From ldphill@earthlink.net Sun Dec 3 20:51:42 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA01135 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:51:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust72.tnt5.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.25.183.72]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA20447 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:51:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004e01c05d9e$312ca800$48b7193f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: "Mannlist" References: Subject: Re: OT - Go Go's Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:58:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I've been meaning to check out some of the Go-Gos' stuff - what's a good album to start with? Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fickle" To: "Mannlist" Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 8:08 PM Subject: OT - Go Go's > I think it's a riot so many people out here enjoyed the Go Go's so much, > I LOVED them. I have had a long time crush on Jane Wiedlin, I thought I was > going to have to be in the closet on this one forever... I am Free... free > at last...LOL > > > I used to hide their Albums so nobody would know I had them, unbelievable... > > >From ldphill@earthlink.net Sun Dec 3 20:53:15 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA01203 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:53:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust72.tnt5.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.25.183.72]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA25541; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:52:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <005201c05d9e$6ab90460$48b7193f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: <20001203230309.16988.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: songs I want to hear live Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:00:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004F_01C05D6C.0ECDE6C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C05D6C.0ECDE6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New question: if you somehow found some way to play Aimee and Til = Tuesday cds backwards, what kind of "subliminal messages" would you = imagine them to have?=20 Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's = wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lisa Letostak=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 5:03 PM Subject: songs I want to hear live Mr. Harris Momentum Nothing is Good Enough (w/ vocals) Satellite Voices Carry (i've never heard it live) P.S. how can you play CDs backwards? or is it impossible? -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do You Yahoo!? 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New question: if you somehow found some = way to play=20 Aimee and Til Tuesday cds backwards, what kind of "subliminal = messages"=20 would you imagine them to have?
 
Lauren
 
"At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the = coffee's=20 wearing off." - Lauren
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lisa=20 Letostak
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 = 5:03=20 PM
Subject: songs I want to hear = live

Mr. Harris

Momentum

Nothing is Good Enough (w/ vocals)

Satellite

Voices Carry (i've never heard it live)

P.S. how can you play CDs backwards? or is it impossible?


Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! = Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of=20 Products. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C05D6C.0ECDE6C0-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sun Dec 3 20:57:00 2000 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA01360 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:56:59 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id f.77.cee7d54 (659); Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:56:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <77.cee7d54.275c61d5@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:56:21 EST Subject: Re: OT - Go Go's To: ldphill@earthlink.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_77.cee7d54.275c61d5_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_77.cee7d54.275c61d5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/3/00 9:52:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, ldphill@earthlink.net writes: > I've been meaning to check out some of the Go-Gos' stuff - what's a good > album to start with? > > Either Beauty And The Beat, or Talk Show. They have two greatist hits comps out too. Their record company IRS is no more, so I suspect everything is out of print, so if you find them, grab them. Andrea --part1_77.cee7d54.275c61d5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/3/00 9:52:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ldphill@earthlink.net writes:


I've been meaning to check out some of the Go-Gos' stuff - what's a good
album to start with?



Either Beauty And The Beat, or Talk Show.  They have two greatist hits comps
out too.  Their record company IRS is no more, so I suspect everything is out
of print, so if you find them, grab them.
Andrea --part1_77.cee7d54.275c61d5_boundary-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sun Dec 3 21:05:58 2000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA01523 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:05:57 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.24.dcee7ef (659) for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:05:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <24.dcee7ef.275c63f4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:05:24 EST Subject: Lol To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_24.dcee7ef.275c63f4_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_24.dcee7ef.275c63f4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is so funny, and so true, this Pumpkins parody. http://www.cmj.com/newmm/smashingpeanuts/page1.html. Andrea --part1_24.dcee7ef.275c63f4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is so funny, and so true, this Pumpkins parody.
http://www.cmj.com/newmm/smashingpeanuts/page1.html.
Andrea --part1_24.dcee7ef.275c63f4_boundary-- >From wstewart@landmarknet.net Sun Dec 3 21:37:39 2000 Received: from dravite.mint.net (dravite.mint.net [216.227.128.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA04194 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:37:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from landmarknet.net (northconway-ppp-17.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.22]) by dravite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20783 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:37:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3A2B11E7.9EDB95EF@landmarknet.net> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 22:39:19 -0500 From: Bill Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Subject: Re: songs I want to hear live References: <20001203230309.16988.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> <005201c05d9e$6ab90460$48b7193f@elliott> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: wstewart@landmarknet.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >how can you play CDs backwards? or is it impossible? If you can scan the disk in as a wave file (pc users use Exact Auto Copy), most any sound recorder can reverse a wave file. I don't know about mp3 sourced material. Now listening to love in a vacuum backward. Weird. Bill >From mvfisk@gj.net Mon Dec 4 08:17:56 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA00518 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:17:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.65.1] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7F66FB00EC; Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:19:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3A2BA77C.31AAF4E1@gj.net> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:17:32 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: Go-Go's & grammar (pretty much OT) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >I was beginning to think this site was for music snobs only (I say that only because of that
>whole grammar thing. That really bugged me).
    Yes that was kind of petty, wasn't it?  And I was probably one of the biggest anal-
retentive grammar goons.  Sorry!  But just so's you'll know, I like the Go-Go's too!
Not as much as ABBA, though.  And Tommy James & the Shondells.  And I even
picked up (gasp!) Ace of Base's first album.  Bubblegum isn't bad if there's enough
goo in it to stick to your shoe.
    What bugs me is bands that sell 2 million copies of their album in their first week
to hordes of prepubescent girls, so automatically they are considered "great artists."
(Not that there's anything wrong with being a prepubescent girl!  Don't flame me!)
Then you have Aimee Mann and her ilk, who write intelligent lyrics and catchy music
but have to scratch and bite for every bit of credit they get.
    In closing, I saw an MTV special on Rolling Stones' greatest 100 pop songs of
all time (just the last half hour), "Beatles to Back Street Boys."  It actually gave a lot
of credit to that new pop chart phenomenon, the Beatles.  The one thing that strikes
me most is that the Beatles had two gifted writers in the same class as Aimee Mann,
John Lennon and Paul McCartne.  George Harrison was no slouch, either, after he
developed his craft.  Don't forget that Ringo Starr had twelve chart hits on his own,
too, many of which he wrote.
    The pinnacle, then, for me, is a singer-songwriter who is the whole package.
I put Aimee Mann on top.
Michael >From j_fairall@yahoo.com Mon Dec 4 09:54:20 2000 Received: from web615.mail.yahoo.com (web615.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.84]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id JAA10153 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:54:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001204155348.9122.qmail@web615.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [137.207.18.12] by web615.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:53:48 PST Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:53:48 -0800 (PST) From: Jer Fairall Subject: Re: OT - Go Go's To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: j_fairall@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > Either Beauty And The Beat, or Talk Show. They have > two greatist hits comps out too. Their record > company IRS is no more, so I suspect everything is > out of print, so if you find them, grab them. Actually, BEAUTY AND THE BEAT, TALK SHOW and VACATION were all re-issued recently and thus should be easy to find. There's also another compilation put out by VH1 to coincide with their BEHIND THE MUSIC special on the band from earlier this year but it looks to be mostly an expanded edition of their GREATEST HITS disc. If it's a compilation you want, though, the 2 disc RETURN TO THE VALLEY OF THE GO GO'S has a bunch of outtakes, live tracks, previously unreleased stuff, new songs (recorded in 1994), etc and is definitely the one to get. Jer (back, but mostly lurking) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >From MGiammatteo@getty.edu Mon Dec 4 09:59:57 2000 Received: from mail.getty.edu (mail.getty.edu [153.10.96.96]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id JAA10505 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:59:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from Getty-Message_Server by mail.getty.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:59:20 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:59:05 -0800 From: "Michael Giammatteo" To: Subject: "girl" groups, concerts & backwards CD's Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id JAA10506 Reply-To: MGiammatteo@getty.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was a big Go Go's fan. I still have a weakness for female musicians/songwriters. This has been a great year for me in that respect - I saw Aimee (& Michael) in March at Largo, the Go Go's in August (with the Psycadelic Furs & the B52's) at the Greek, the Bangles in September at the House Of Blues and kd lang last month at the Sun Theatre in Anaheim. I've also got a ticket for Aimee at the House Of Blues on Thursday night. Additionally, this year I saw Ringo in June, the Who in August, & Peter Frampton & Tom Jones in October. This has been my best year for concerts. By far. Last year was another great year: REM, Tori Amos, Alanis Morissette, Squeeze, Springsteen, Yes & Brian Wilson. I've been on a concert kick during the last three years. Forgotten how much I'd liked it. Playing CD's backwards is easy - just put the disc in upside down. Or is it - turn the player upside down? Or make the player face the wall? Spin the player counter clockwise while playing the disc? I forget. -Michael >From bruegelpie@hotmail.com Mon Dec 4 10:54:24 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f144.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.144]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA17315 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:54:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:53:52 -0800 Received: from 165.215.18.63 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Dec 2000 16:53:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [165.215.18.63] From: "Austin McLean" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RE: new article Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:53:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2000 16:53:52.0523 (UTC) FILETIME=[C80F1DB0:01C05E12] Reply-To: bruegelpie@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The article below from Nylon is one of the most interesting I have ever read about Aimee. Many of us wonder what our favorite artists are like, and would like to have a conversation with them. So in many ways Jonathan Van Meter's article is what a conversation might be like with Aimee - and not just any conversation, but one that touches on some pretty weighty matters. Two thoughts after reading the article: 1) I wonder if Aimee still has his "crush" and talks to Aimee 2) I wish we could see more of their conversation! Austin Anybody else see this? Interesting stuff http://home.mindspring.com/~sauniere/2000/nm1100.htm Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Mon Dec 4 10:55:23 2000 Received: from web1402.mail.yahoo.com (web1402.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.166]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id KAA17391 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:55:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001204165521.10118.qmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.124.134] by web1402.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 04 Dec 2000 08:55:21 PST Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:55:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: Re: songs I want to hear live To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1231192379-975948921=:8309" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1231192379-975948921=:8309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i was asking about the playing cds backwards thing b/c I read in a post from october that there was a backwards message in put me on top. Anyone know anything about that? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1231192379-975948921=:8309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii i was asking about the playing cds backwards thing b/c I read in a post from october that there was a backwards message in put me on top. Anyone know anything about that?


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Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1231192379-975948921=:8309-- >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Mon Dec 4 11:19:49 2000 Received: from web1402.mail.yahoo.com (web1402.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.166]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id LAA19882 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:19:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001204171947.13958.qmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.124.134] by web1402.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 04 Dec 2000 09:19:47 PST Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:19:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: a good article from '96-'98 section To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-7684930-975950387=:10275" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-7684930-975950387=:10275 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii its at http://www.mindspring.com/~sauniere/1996/in050596.htm also I read in an article (I think it was in the '93-95 section) that Aimee's mom kidnapped her when she was 4. weird --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-7684930-975950387=:10275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

its at http://www.mindspring.com/~sauniere/1996/in050596.htm

also I read in an article (I think it was in the '93-95 section) that Aimee's mom kidnapped her when she was 4. weird


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Millions of Products. --0-7684930-975950387=:10275-- >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 4 14:51:03 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA12047 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:51:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from [206.8.2.192] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 04-Dec-2000 14:49:10 -0600 Date: 04 Dec 2000 14:50:32 -0600 Message-ID: <911302582jsteinmann@clynch.com> From: Jack Steinmann Subject: Here you go To: The Mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.1 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id OAA12054 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/product_zoom.jsp?productNo=468004 >From fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Mon Dec 4 15:31:04 2000 Received: from web10806.mail.yahoo.com (web10806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.248]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id PAA25067 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:31:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001204213032.78020.qmail@web10806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.247.198.58] by web10806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:30:32 PST Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:30:32 -0800 (PST) From: Mann Fann Subject: Re: Aimee songs in concert To: Craigmacneil@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --- Craigmacneil@aol.com wrote: > superball. LOUD. > Definitely Superball...and "Believed You Were Lucky", two of her best without a doubt. I would consider EDN Aimee's first solo album, (NOT to diminish the musical contributions of Mr. Hausman, of course). Fann __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >From diri.gini@virgin.net Mon Dec 4 15:49:43 2000 Received: from mta4-svc.virgin.net (mta4-svc.virgin.net [194.168.54.145]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA05433 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:49:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.5.148]) by mta4-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001204215005.BECM18977.mta4-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:50:05 +0000 Message-ID: <008801c05e3b$a510d8c0$9326fd3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: <20001203184924.1997.qmail@web2005.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Music Snob? (OT) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:45:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello Michael, everyone, > I was beginning to think this site was for music snobs only > (I say that only because of that whole grammar thing. > That really bugged me). Can I ask a question? Why did you think arguing for good grammar would make someone a music snob? Does that mean, because I'm particular about which lager I drink, I'm a wine snob? It just seems funny to me that you judge one characteristic by assessing a totally different one. A bit like assuming someone's tall, because they have a 42" waist; as if there are not short fat people around. As one of the people who stressed the importance of good grammar, I'd like to examine the question of music (and by association, other) snobbery. I will gladly and openly say that I disdain lots of music, but I find very little music actually unlistenable. I tend to reject music most strongly when I find it bland, so out go The Spice Girls, Westlife, Enya, The Corrs, Oasis etc, but does that make me a snob? I don't think so. Snobbery is about someone 'proving superiority over someone else. They can do that any number of ways: through clothing, language (not just English, after all for the snob it's de rigeur to use francais ;-), the car you drive, the make of golf ball you use and of course, music. As with clothes, the music snob advances his or her cause by publicly subscribing to the right brands; so here goes, some highlights from my own collection: Aimee Mann, Jeff Buckley, Nick Drake, The Eels and Salif Keita. (It's always a good idea to have an exotic name no one's ever heard of. :-) Not bad huh? If I'd really wanted to show off, I'd add Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen and say, The Cure. Trouble is, if I did lay claim to these I'd be lying. I have another problem equiting myself a music snob: you see your cover's blown if your have just one naff record on your shelf and I have over twenty Mike Oldfield albums, which I love; so I'm a hopeless case. I hope you've noticed that snobs have to conform to some sort of standard. (Very liberating.) I still despise The Spice Girls (and Westlife, Boyzone etc.) and I'm being completely unsnobbish about it. The Spice Girls aren't actually bad are they? They can hold a tune and their lyrics make sense; but they didn't promise blandness, they promised a good time. Think of spice, think cardamom, think cumin... think exotic. And how did they use Girl Power? The used it to sell bags of salted, thinly sliced, deep fried potato. Think saturated fats, think cheap... think bland. When Mel B(I think) attacked Westlife(I think) for being contrived product, I nearly choked on my porridge! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! I suppose in arguing for some sort of equivalence, some people think they're being egalitarian. I don't. I thinking they're being stupid. I think they're denying that people can grow out of contrived product. I love Aimee's music not because it's trendy, but because it's great music with great lyrics, sung with feeling by a woman with a wonderful voice. To opt for cynically designed product over artists like Aimee, is to choose swine over pearls. To opt for Aimee over Westlife is to listen to your own heart and your own mind; it's being true to yourself. I didn't argue for good English, because I wanted to intimidate others; I did it, because I truly believe that using good language is best for both the writer and the reader, whoever they may be. I'm no snob of any description. I love music and I love language. Thanks for reading, (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends. >From russn@thestandard.com Mon Dec 4 17:26:10 2000 Received: from mail.thestandard.com (mail.thestandard.net [209.0.34.132]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA19660 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:26:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [172.16.11.67] (172.16.11.67 [172.16.11.67]) by mail.thestandard.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 4G9X64L9; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:19:29 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: russn@mail.thestandard.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:37:18 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Russ Nordmeyer Subject: Joe's pub set list? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: russn@thestandard.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Does anyone have a set list from any of the Joe's pub shows in NYC last February? Please email it to me offlist if you've got one. Doesn't matter which show. Thanks. Russ >From happytown102@hotmail.com Mon Dec 4 17:47:40 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f198.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.198]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA21415 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:47:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:47:09 -0800 Received: from 209.54.176.50 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Dec 2000 23:47:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.54.176.50] From: "Frank Gargione" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: songs i neeeeed to hear live Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 18:47:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2000 23:47:09.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[842952C0:01C05E4C] Reply-To: happytown102@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Momentum is awesome live, when I saw her in Phili over the summer she played One and did that little transistional interlude thing and went straight into Momentum. It was totally cool. Anyway, I'd really love to hear The Other End of the Telescope (fat chance...), Superball and Frankenstein live, I think those would be pretty incredible. -Frank _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From jillpw@hotmail.com Mon Dec 4 18:09:18 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f264.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.142]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA22783 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:09:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:08:46 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Dec 2000 00:08:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: happytown102@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: songs i neeeeed to hear live Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 19:08:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2000 00:08:46.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[897E0A60:01C05E4F] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Aimee often does Telescope as an encore. Frank Gargione wrote: Anyway, I'd really love to hear The Other End of the Telescope (fat chance...) _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From ldphill@earthlink.net Mon Dec 4 19:15:31 2000 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA07203 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:15:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust89.tnt1.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.27.85.89]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA11761 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:15:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002f01c05e59$ed7d8360$59551b3f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: "Mannlist" References: Subject: Re: songs i neeeeed to hear live Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:23:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Complete with Buddy Judge's swell Elvis Costello impression... and what a segue... Speaking of whom, he's apparently released his solo album "Profiles in Clownhenge". You can find it on Amazon, I don't know if anywhere else is selling it though. Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: ; Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: Re: songs i neeeeed to hear live > Aimee often does Telescope as an encore. > > > Frank Gargione wrote: > Anyway, I'd really love to hear The Other End of the Telescope (fat > chance...) > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Tue Dec 5 02:05:53 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f73.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.73]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA08086 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 02:05:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 00:05:21 -0800 Received: from 24.237.122.27 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Dec 2000 08:05:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.122.27] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: weighing in on a few things Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 23:05:21 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2000 08:05:21.0754 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D6183A0:01C05E92] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I would not call this list snobs, but most of us are, admittedly, elitists. There is nothing wrong with categorizing music as it applies to your personal tastes. I can see why people just joining would think of snobbery, initially. There is nothing wrong with loving music AND English, but we are here to talk about music, primarily, not English 101 (actually that was a 400 level course we received). I didn't find it snobbish, just a little anal. The whole grammar thing was well-intended and harmless, and life is grand on the Mannlist. I read the Spin issue about which Jill posted. It's the one with Eminem on the cover. There are a couple of things that I thought were really touching. First, Radiohead was chosen as Band of the Year and a caption next to the article says, "Bachelor No. 1, how do you feel about Napster? Radiohead kept the world in the dark." I thought this was a very nice Aimee allusion. In addition to making their Top 20 Albums with Magnolia, there is a VERY interesting article about soundtracks (Scoring a Hit on page 56) and the pathetic state of music in most films. PTA and Aimee get a mention in that article as well. How SAVE ME didn't make Top 20 single of the year is puzzling. I must confess that I lied about the radio. I listen to something, besides sports radio, all the time--my local retro station. It's all 80s, all the time. I'll take 80s music over what's on the radio ANY day. I mean, my ideal concert would be The Cure, Crowded House, Depeche Mode and Til Tuesday. The Bangles and Go-Gos!! Oh boy!! Scott, not to worry! Jane Wiedlin and Winona Ryder and me on a double date! That's my deviant straight fantasy!! I am not afraid to admit that I still listen to the Thompson Twins, Berlin, Motels (Martha Davis' voice does it for me!), Patty Smyth, Missing Persons, Cock Robin, Cyndi Lauper, 10K Maniacs, U2, Billy Idol, Madonna... Andy, I think you have camera issues period--and it's very odd that camera and *near arrest* come up in the same stories with you quite frequently! My flights to AND from Atlanta on Northwest were canceled. It actually might be a good thing, because I got stuck on America West and I open their in-flight magazine and find that Chantal Kreviazuk has a WHOLE channel to herself!! They have her near WHOLE album on there with a few songs I'd never heard from soundtracks etc. It is narrated and TRES COOL. Aimee definitely needs this!! I am sure Chantal's label paid a lot for that, but what exposure. A nice big quarter page picture too! Paul Melancon and Cate were just the greatest people! I haven't meet a bad Mannlister yet! Check out Paul's CD. He caused me to pull out all of my Crowded House and my neglected Neil Finn TRY WHISTLING THIS (now playing). As Lauren stated, Buddy's CD is available on Amazon, but is this the new one. The release dates are confusing. Someone check out the track listing. Guess who wrote a glowing EDITORIAL REVIEW of the disc??? That's right--AIMEE MANN. Check it out! I am extremely jet-lagged and need sleeeeeeeeep. Sean, how sweet is it when the Seahawks win and Raiders lose in the same weekend?!! Oh, and Dido speaks VERY highly of *Em* in a few interviews I have read recently. SHe says he's a good storyteller. Hmmmm. David Duke is a good orator. It doesn't make the *messages* any less offensive. Also, the sage rapper is quoted as saying something to the effect that "it's about time Dido was noticed". Isn't this her DEBUT album?!! Poor thing, neglected lo these many months. *sigh* Paul "I won't wear fur. Won't do it. Fur is uncool." _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From speed3@hawaii.rr.com Tue Dec 5 02:17:20 2000 Received: from hawaii.rr.com (hnlmail2.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.227.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA08373 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 02:17:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.25.249.219] ([24.25.249.219]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.617.61); Mon, 4 Dec 2000 22:17:14 -1000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 22:18:30 -1000 Subject: OT: 80s Music From: Darcy To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speed3@hawaii.rr.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Paul, it's been too long. Good to have you back. And yes, 80s music does rule, though I routinely get ridiculed for liking it so much by my much younger classmates. Darcy >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 5 02:18:46 2000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA08424 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 02:18:45 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id i.aa.deaeaac (3925); Tue, 5 Dec 2000 03:18:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 03:18:06 EST Subject: Re: weighing in on a few things To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_aa.deaeaac.275dfebe_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_aa.deaeaac.275dfebe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/5/00 3:06:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, sonichawk2@hotmail.com writes: > Oh, and Dido speaks VERY highly of *Em* in a few interviews I have read > recently. SHe says he's a good storyteller. Hmmmm. David Duke is a good > orator. It doesn't make the *messages* any less offensive. Also, the sage > rapper is quoted as saying something to the effect that "it's about time > Dido was noticed". Isn't this her DEBUT album?!! Poor thing, neglected lo > these many months. *sigh* > > I must have miss something here about snobbery and music, so I won't comment on it. As for Em and Dido, this is why I've decided not to buy her album, as much as I like Thank You, which Em sampled on his song Stan, for the reasons Paul states here. Unless there is a lot of denial going on here, I honestly wonder if she shares his views on gay/lesbian people, I just can't beleive what she has said about him and that she likes him. Andrea --part1_aa.deaeaac.275dfebe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/5/00 3:06:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sonichawk2@hotmail.com writes:


Oh, and Dido speaks VERY highly of *Em* in a few interviews I have read
recently.  SHe says he's a good storyteller.  Hmmmm.  David Duke is a good
orator.  It doesn't make the *messages* any less offensive.  Also, the sage
rapper is quoted as saying something to the effect that "it's about time
Dido was noticed".  Isn't this her DEBUT album?!!  Poor thing, neglected lo
these many months. *sigh*



I must have miss something here about snobbery and music, so I won't comment
on it.
As for Em and Dido, this is why I've decided not to buy her album, as much as
I like Thank You, which Em sampled on his song Stan, for the reasons Paul
states here.  Unless there is a lot of denial going on here, I honestly
wonder if she shares his views on gay/lesbian people, I just can't beleive
what she has said about him and that she likes him.
Andrea --part1_aa.deaeaac.275dfebe_boundary-- >From rushed@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU Tue Dec 5 07:27:12 2000 Received: from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (kuhub.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.32.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA24107 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 07:27:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (PMDF V6.0-24 #39821) id <01JXC5AJ9WT200I0KH@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Tue, 05 Dec 2000 07:27:09 -0600 (UTC -06:00) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 07:27:09 -0600 (UTC -06:00) From: rushed@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU Subject: Played backwards! In-reply-to: <200012051201.GAA12212@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> To: Aimee Mann listproc Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: rushed@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ola! Listening to backmasking is easy to do. Just rip the track on your computer, then use an audio playback program (free/shareware) to play it, either forward or backward (I use Soundwave on my Mac). It's fun to do, and you can have a listen to ol' Led Zepplin or Styx and hear it. Aother pretty cool use was on Eric Johnson's opening track to Ah Via Musicom. I'll have to check, but from listening closely to Aimee's music, I don't think there's any masking. Matt Wilkinson, M.D. Medicine/Pediatrics University of Kansas Medical Center >From ldphill@earthlink.net Tue Dec 5 08:33:42 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA27711 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:33:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust176.tnt1.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.27.85.176]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA16891; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 06:33:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002701c05ec9$7560f5e0$b0551b3f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: Subject: Re: weighing in on a few things Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:41:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN If you look in that issue of Spin, there's also a little article by Elliott Smith about John Lennon's impact on his life, and a few of his favorite songs. Good stuff. Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barras" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 2:05 AM Subject: weighing in on a few things > I read the Spin issue about which Jill posted. It's the one with Eminem on > the cover. There are a couple of things that I thought were > really touching. First, Radiohead was chosen as Band of the Year and a > caption next to the article says, "Bachelor No. 1, how do you feel about > Napster? Radiohead kept the world in the dark." I thought this was a very > nice Aimee allusion. In addition to making their Top 20 Albums with > Magnolia, there is a VERY interesting article about soundtracks (Scoring a > Hit on page 56) and the pathetic state of music in most films. PTA and > Aimee get a mention in that article as well. How SAVE ME didn't make Top > 20 single of the year is puzzling. >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Tue Dec 5 11:29:26 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f255.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.130]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA14805 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:29:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:28:54 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Dec 2000 17:28:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: Dido / Eminem (Re: weighing in on a few things) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 09:28:54 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2000 17:28:54.0764 (UTC) FILETIME=[D78162C0:01C05EE0] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >Oh, and Dido speaks VERY highly of *Em* in a few interviews I have read >recently. SHe says he's a good storyteller. Hmmmm. David Duke >is a good >orator. It doesn't make the *messages* any less offensive. >Also, the sage >rapper is quoted as saying something to the effect >that "it's about time >Dido was noticed". Isn't this her DEBUT >album?!! Poor thing, neglected >lo these many months. *sigh* Dido sang on tracks for her brother's group Faithless before her debut album. And she did the West Coast portion of the '99 Lilith Fair, timed for the release of her solo album. That album was out for about a year before it got all the attention. Even with her song used as the theme for "Roswell", it took Eminem's sampling to increase sales and attention. So, even though I personally can't stand Eminem and the "Stan"'s only good feature is the sampling of "Thank You," at least something positive, in my opinion, has come out of the mess that is Eminem. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Tue Dec 5 11:56:53 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA17387 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:56:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.5) with ESMTP id eB5HumR26761 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:56:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A2D2C5E.40106@ucdavis.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 09:56:46 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001204 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: weighing in on a few things References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Paul Barras wrote: > How SAVE ME didn't make Top 20 single of the year is puzzling. Well not too puzzling since the Magnolia soundtrack made it into a lot of those top 10, top 20 or whatever, end of the year lists, and Bachelor #2 didn't make it on any of the lists and it contains most of the songs from Magnolia and plenty more great ones as well ("So I'm wearing the shoe til it fits ...."). -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From russn@thestandard.com Tue Dec 5 13:20:42 2000 Received: from mail.thestandard.com (mail.thestandard.net [209.0.34.132]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA27245 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 13:20:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from [172.16.11.67] (172.16.11.67 [172.16.11.67]) by mail.thestandard.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 4G9X7BWS; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:13:56 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: russn@mail.thestandard.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:31:43 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Russ Nordmeyer Subject: Aimee and Buddy news Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: russn@thestandard.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi there, First, according to Aimee's site, she'll be a guest on the "Late, Late Show" on CBS, December 15th. Hmmm, "Ghost World" maybe? Second, I got a note from Buddy yesterday about the release of his new cd, "Profiles in Clownhenge." It's available from Amazon.com, although it looks like it won't be shipped until January 1. You can place your order now. If you use this link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000055X84/buddyjudge Buddy will actually a see a little more cashola from the sale, so if you plan to order, try to use the link above. What a groovy year this has been, huh? More Aimee than you can shake a stick at, and now a little Buddy to round out the year. Life is sweet. Russ >From diri.gini@virgin.net Tue Dec 5 14:39:32 2000 Received: from mta8-svc.virgin.net (mta8-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.48]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA06104 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:39:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.68.117]) by mta8-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001205203930.BGTA15375.mta8-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:39:30 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01c05efa$ff1e88c0$7544fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: Subject: Re: weighing in on a few things(OT) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:15:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Thanks Paul for your consideration. > There is nothing wrong with loving music AND English, but we are > here to talk about music, primarily, not English 101 (actually that was a > 400 level course we received). Thanks for the reminder and the compliment, but remember that I've never picked up anyone on their English. It's not something I do. > I didn't find it snobbish, just a little anal. :-) If by anal you mean I care, too true; but we're a long way from Freud aren't we? I don't want to be cool, because cool people seem to have mistaken careless for carefree. :-) > The whole grammar thing was well-intended and harmless, and life is > grand on the Mannlist. It is indeed. I lurk, because here in Aimeewho?land there isn't much to tell and it's great to hear the news and gossip. It's a shame some people are so anti - OT, because hearing what other people think about all sorts of things helps paint a picture of what people are like; instead of just a succession of names. Good on yer Paul and everyone. I'll get back in me cupboard now. :-) (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends. >From wstewart@landmarknet.net Tue Dec 5 16:38:02 2000 Received: from dravite.mint.net (dravite.mint.net [216.227.128.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA15761 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:38:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from landmarknet.net (northconway-ppp-652.landmarknet.net [63.75.120.150]) by dravite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03374 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:37:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3A2D6EB4.A82C5F7D@landmarknet.net> Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 17:39:48 -0500 From: Bill Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Subject: put me on top -backwards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: wstewart@landmarknet.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I ripped it from the cd, reversed it. I don't hear a blessed things. I have it as a 40 (I can't remember well) MP3. 1Mb I will send it to anyone that really wants it (I don't know why) Or, Someone can put it on their website. just email me. Bill >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Tue Dec 5 16:41:45 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f306.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.181]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA16152 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:41:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:41:13 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Dec 2000 22:41:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Mannlist Jewelry Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 14:41:13 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2000 22:41:13.0172 (UTC) FILETIME=[78778940:01C05F0C] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey, If anyone is interested in some Aimee-related jewelry for the holidays, drop me a line. I have the supplies for a couple of "Aimee" stretch peridot crystal bracelets and a bunch of "Bachelor No.2" peridot crystal earrings. Gosh, if you pay me via PayPal today, I can have the goodies out to you tomorrow! How's that for easy shopping? :-) I placed a wholesale order, so the goodies are dirt cheap, esp. when compared to boutique prices on the bracelets ($10-30). Yikes! "Aimee" bracelet: peridot Swarovski crystal bracelet on stretch cord, "Aimee" spelled out in white alphabeads. (Other word options probably available, email me about them) child size (5"): $3 adult (7"): $4 (other sizes available, email me) "Bachelor No.2" earrings: peridot Swarovski crystal earrings on sterling silver french ear wires. one size: $2 shipping/handling is approx. $1.30 extra per package. As you can tell, I am making nada on those prices, so take advantage of me while you can. haha ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister PayPal: klwilcox@law.com "Though you pay for the hand they're shaking Speeches and the mistakes they're making As they struggle with the undertaking of simple thought" Aimee Mann "You're With Stupid Now" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From Pooley29@aol.com Tue Dec 5 17:44:22 2000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA22638 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:44:21 -0600 (CST) From: Pooley29@aol.com Received: from Pooley29@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.33.) id r.47.44f8355 (4333); Tue, 5 Dec 2000 18:43:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47.44f8355.275ed7b0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 18:43:44 EST Subject: Re: songs I want to hear live To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_47.44f8355.275ed7b0_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: Pooley29@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_47.44f8355.275ed7b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/4/00 11:56:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, sabrina1939@yahoo.com writes: > i was asking about the playing cds backwards thing b/c I read in a post from > october that there was a backwards message in put me on top. Anyone know > Yes, There's a point in that song that I always thought she was saying something like "put me in it..." at exactly 1:30 into the song, but when I played it backwards, it revealed the phrase "Put me on top" loud and clear. Check it out. John Poole --part1_47.44f8355.275ed7b0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/4/00 11:56:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sabrina1939@yahoo.com writes:


i was asking about the playing cds backwards thing b/c I read in a post from
october that there was a backwards message in put me on top. Anyone know
anything about that?


Yes,

There's a point in that song that I always thought she was saying something
like "put me in it..." at exactly 1:30 into the song, but when I played it
backwards, it revealed the phrase "Put me on top" loud and clear.  Check it
out.

John Poole --part1_47.44f8355.275ed7b0_boundary-- >From ldphill@earthlink.net Tue Dec 5 21:41:56 2000 Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA22747 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:41:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust191.tnt4.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.24.200.191]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAB17028 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:41:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000c01c05f37$8ccc1980$bfc8183f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: "Mannlist" References: <3A2D6EB4.A82C5F7D@landmarknet.net> Subject: Play Aimee in Reverse? Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:49:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I tried it. It sounds like she's speaking some foreign language rather badly, but no subliminal messages. I think what was being referred to was a sound played during the song that was "put me on top" played backwards. Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 4:39 PM Subject: put me on top -backwards > I ripped it from the cd, reversed it. > I don't hear a blessed things. > > I have it as a 40 (I can't remember well) MP3. 1Mb > I will send it to anyone that really wants it (I don't know why) > Or, Someone can put it on their website. > > just email me. > > Bill > > >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Tue Dec 5 22:00:13 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f102.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.102]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA24582 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:00:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:59:42 -0800 Received: from 24.237.118.186 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 03:59:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.118.186] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: MP3.com Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 18:59:42 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2000 03:59:42.0108 (UTC) FILETIME=[F647C5C0:01C05F38] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I found this following story interesting. It sounds like an interesting site and the lawsuit settlements are mindboggling. As if the recording industry needed MORE money. I say pay the damages to the artist! I'm biased, of course, and I know the money, legally, should go to the record companies. *sigh* http://www.msnbc.com/news/498894.asp It sounds like a great service. Up to 500 CDs stored online for about $4 per month!! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Tue Dec 5 22:13:33 2000 Received: from imo-r15.mail.aol.com (imo-r15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA25576 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:13:32 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.b2.e18e6ce (4540) for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 23:12:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 23:12:58 EST Subject: OT:Played backwards! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 126 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I listened to some Beatles' albums backwards, and, my God, I think Paul is dead! Steve >From ldphill@earthlink.net Tue Dec 5 22:28:37 2000 Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA27063 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:28:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust101.tnt3.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.26.148.101]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA21198; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:27:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001b01c05f3e$04fbdd40$bfc8183f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: Subject: VERY OT: Re: MP3.com, Napster, etc. Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:35:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The trick seems to be, however, that you're PAYING mp3.com to listen to cds you have, presumably, acquired by legal means. (Part of my objection to this is, admittedly, 'cause I'm cheap, and have been spending too much money on CDs as is lately! it's just as easy to carry a little cd wallet.) I like the logic behind the free ad-based version, which allows you to store 25 cds online but randomly requires you to put them in your computer to prove ownership; it seems a little inconvenient, but does what is necessary to prevent piracy. Wonder when Napster's going to start charging...you could get into all kinds of issues there. How would you distribute payment to artists? How would you block access to songs by artists who refuse to consent to the use of their music? And if you did so, would users cry censorship? Heady stuff, this... I signed up for a trial membership with EMusic, a paid MP3 download site, and was pretty impressed with the anti-piracy e-mail they sent out. The gist: since Napster refuses to help EMusic go after people unless they get a list of names, the company has software that searches out their MP3s, issues a warning to users sharing them, and gives 'em 24 hours to stop before ratting them out to Napster. This, to me, sounds like a reasonable method to stop piracy: not immediate crackdown of all prosecutors, but a "fair warning" system that lets people know WHAT they're doing wrong before slapping on the handcuffs. (this, boys and girls, is what happens at that magical juncture between final projects and final exams in which I have little or nothing to do and way too much time to think.) Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barras" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:59 PM Subject: OT: MP3.com > I found this following story interesting. It sounds like an interesting > site and the lawsuit settlements are mindboggling. As if the recording > industry needed MORE money. I say pay the damages to the artist! I'm > biased, of course, and I know the money, legally, should go to the record > companies. *sigh* > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/498894.asp > > It sounds like a great service. Up to 500 CDs stored online for about $4 > per month!! > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Tue Dec 5 22:49:53 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f307.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.182]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA28003 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:49:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:49:21 -0800 Received: from 24.237.118.186 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 04:49:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.118.186] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: For your consideration--MP3 Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 19:49:21 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2000 04:49:21.0718 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6442D60:01C05F3F] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I ma CERTAIN that Aimee would have won the Oscar this year!! Everyone is talking about what a weak WIDE OPEN year it is! Curse the luck! Get all the buzz at www.inside.com/film/oscars I would also like to note that of the 5 or 6 mentions now I have read in the media about Aimee's letter of dispute with Universal/Hip-o, not one even mentioned how *poorly* written it was. Funny, not even the guys who trashed the "dishwater dull" diva took a swipe at her poor grammar. So much for looking bad or her message being diminished... {I forgot to mention that in that same issue of Seattle Weekly that trashed AImee and Penn, there was a quarter page ad for the Seattle SHow! Isn't that like NBC trashing McDonald's and then running a few 30 second McDonald's commercials during the broadcast???!!) Lauren, good points about MP3 but for all careless CD owners like me out there, read the following: I buy all my good CDs at LEAST twice (involuntarily) because I scratch them horribly; leave them in rental car CD players (most recent victim Ani DiFranco TO THE TEETH! ); can't find them because I have put a Cranberries CD in a Counting Crows cd case and don't remember that I did that; or discover that, having two CD inventories in two different homes in two different cities (Seattle and Anchorage) that when I am craving Catie Curtis, she is a *hundred miles* away. . Also, forget traveling, just imagine being in your office at work and your Aimee disc is at home (IN THE CD player, still warm, of course), and you want to listen to it. You could A)log on and buy Liquid Audio download B)go to MP3.com or C)drive home and get the damn disc) Also, ESPECIALLY when traveling, lugging around my CD wallet is an extra annoyance. It sounds like a good deal on many levels for me. I am sure it's not for everyone though. Now if only I can figure out how to use this MP3 player... Paul The Technically Challenged P.S. The possibility of NEVER scratching a CD again is simply exciting! >From: "Lauren Phillips" > > >The trick seems to be, however, that you're PAYING mp3.com to listen to cds >you have, presumably, acquired by legal means. it's just as easy to carry a little cd wallet _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From missy@honeybeepub.com Tue Dec 5 23:35:46 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA01072 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 23:35:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA27783; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:35:43 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 21:37:07 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: For your consideration--MP3 From: Missy Roback To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN on 12/5/00 8:49 PM, Paul Barras at sonichawk2@hotmail.com wrote: > {I forgot to mention that in that same issue of Seattle Weekly that trashed > AImee and Penn, there was a quarter page ad for the Seattle SHow! Isn't > that like NBC trashing McDonald's and then running a few 30 second > McDonald's commercials during the broadcast???!!) hey, that's the way it should be. you may hate what they're saying, but the editorial and ad departments are doing their jobs -- separately! the old church-and-state thing... it's certainly better than the writer being afraid to speak his mind for fear that the advertiser will pull its ads. missy btw, i'm so glad to see that someone else scratches their CDs. remember when CDs first came out, the line was "they won't scratch like LPs?" right. >From ironman@connexus.net.au Wed Dec 6 00:43:32 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA07651 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 00:43:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (mail.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.17]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA91010 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:43:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) From: "Tony Iremonger" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: ironman@connexus.net.au To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:43:26 +1100 Subject: Re: Play Aimee in Reverse? X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6k, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3a2de00e.1637a.0@connexus.net.au> X-User-Info: 203.34.175.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: ironman@connexus.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN So if you play "put me on top" backwards who ends up on the bottom? :) >I tried it. It sounds like she's speaking some foreign language rather >badly, but no subliminal messages. I think what was being referred to was a >sound played during the song that was "put me on top" played backwards. > >Lauren > >From ironman@connexus.net.au Wed Dec 6 00:51:38 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA08124 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 00:51:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (mail.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.17]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA91948 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:51:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) From: "Tony Iremonger" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: ironman@connexus.net.au To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:51:33 +1100 Subject: Re: Do you ever feel this way? X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6k, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3a2de1f5.16729.0@connexus.net.au> X-User-Info: 203.34.175.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: ironman@connexus.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I cold e-mailed this guy today to try and set up a CD-R trade for some live material. Here's the reply: >Tony, > >I'm a little Aimee Mann-ed out right now. > I guess a trade's out of the question, huh. Can you have too much of a good thing? >From missy@honeybeepub.com Wed Dec 6 00:58:56 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA08329 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 00:58:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA93501; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:58:48 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 23:00:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Do you ever feel this way? From: Missy Roback To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3a2de1f5.16729.0@connexus.net.au> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN certainly. i have burned out on my favorite artists from time to time, often not listening to them for years at a clip. it makes coming back to them all the better. > I cold e-mailed this guy today to try and set up a CD-R trade for some live > material. > Here's the reply: > >> Tony, >> >> I'm a little Aimee Mann-ed out right now. >> > > I guess a trade's out of the question, huh. Can you have too much of a good > thing? > > >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Wed Dec 6 01:01:51 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f210.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.210]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA08803 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 01:01:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 23:01:20 -0800 Received: from 24.237.123.102 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 07:01:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.123.102] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: free press, mini-disc advice Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 22:01:19 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2000 07:01:20.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[55F795E0:01C05F52] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Consider me chastisesd, Missy. You are absolutely right! Can I cheat and say it should be that way for everyone in a free country EXCEPT people writing bad (UNTRUE) things about Aimee?! (kidding folks, I know what that sort *selective* censorship can lead to: slippery slopes) I toyed with a mini-disc player. Does anyone have one? Do they scratch easily. They look like they are encased in plastic. I guess my carelessness has been good for my favorite artists--multiple sales. np: Sheryl Crow (the white & black 2nd CD whatever it's called--just Sheryl Crow, I think. It's very good. I really need to start listening to all these discs. There are so many it's almost depressing...almost.;)I am listening to great new stuff, and the old stuff like this Crow disc I am hearing with a whole new appreciation.) P.S. Geoff, thanks for the WHO disc. Received and on my upcoming playlist. From: Missy Roback >hey, that's the way it should be. ... it's certainly better than the writer being afraid >to speak his mind for fear that the advertiser will pull its ads. > >missy > >btw, i'm so glad to see that someone else scratches their CDs. remember >when CDs first came out, the line was "they won't scratch like LPs?" right. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From speed3@hawaii.rr.com Wed Dec 6 02:35:31 2000 Received: from hawaii.rr.com (hnlmail1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.227.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA22049 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 02:35:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.25.249.219] ([24.25.249.219]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.617.61); Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:35:11 -1000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 22:36:29 -1000 Subject: OT: Minidiscs From: Darcy To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speed3@hawaii.rr.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have a minidisc player. I loved it for its size, and "unskippability." It was absolutely wonderful until mp3s came out. One problem is recording time. Minidiscs can only record up to about 80 minutes max. Definitely not enough for all my favorite Aimee songs. Ah, but with SoundJam on my Mac, there's no limit as to how long you can record, so right now I have about two hours worth of my all-time favorite 'Til Tuesday/Aimee Mann songs. Darcy >From ltucker@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us Wed Dec 6 07:36:36 2000 Received: from relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net (relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net [38.9.152.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA25409 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 07:36:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from tch2.town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us ([38.233.155.102] helo=smtp.town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us) by relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 143ekL-0004cq-00; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 08:36:33 -0500 Received: by smtp.town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:35:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Larry Tucker To: "'sonichawk2@hotmail.com'" , mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RE: free press, mini-disc advice Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:34:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Reply-To: ltucker@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I've had one for a year now and love it. The minidiscs are fully enclosed much like your 3 1/2" floppies. They hold about 74 minutes of music. They're really handy because of their small size. Though MP3 players are the equal in that department, they have a ways to go before they are good enough for doing live recording. This is where the minis really shine. Great recordings for a quarter the price of a DAT machine. :) -Larry |-----Original Message----- |From: Paul Barras [mailto:sonichawk2@hotmail.com] |Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:01 AM |To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu |Subject: free press, mini-disc advice | | |Consider me chastisesd, Missy. You are absolutely right! Can |I cheat and |say it should be that way for everyone in a free country EXCEPT people |writing bad (UNTRUE) things about Aimee?! (kidding folks, I |know what that |sort *selective* censorship can lead to: slippery slopes) | |I toyed with a mini-disc player. Does anyone have one? Do they scratch |easily. They look like they are encased in plastic. I guess my |carelessness has been good for my favorite artists--multiple sales. | |np: Sheryl Crow (the white & black 2nd CD whatever it's |called--just Sheryl |Crow, I think. It's very good. I really need to start |listening to all these |discs. There are so many it's almost depressing...almost.;)I |am listening to |great new stuff, and the old stuff like this Crow disc I am |hearing with a |whole new appreciation.) | |P.S. Geoff, thanks for the WHO disc. Received and on my |upcoming playlist. | |From: Missy Roback | |>hey, that's the way it should be. |... it's certainly better than the writer being afraid |>to speak his mind for fear that the advertiser will pull its ads. |> |>missy |> |>btw, i'm so glad to see that someone else scratches their |CDs. remember |>when CDs first came out, the line was "they won't scratch |like LPs?" right. | | |_______________________________________________________________ |______________________ |Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From Zabadak900@aol.com Wed Dec 6 12:09:00 2000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA19362 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 12:09:00 -0600 (CST) From: Zabadak900@aol.com Received: from Zabadak900@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.68.9e00903 (2522) for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <68.9e00903.275fda96@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:08:22 EST Subject: aimee at house of blooze in L.A To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_68.9e00903.275fda96_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: Zabadak900@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_68.9e00903.275fda96_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the la times website has a lovely colour pic of A.M. on it's entertainment section. It heralds her imminent appearance at the aforementioned venue. www.latimes.com --part1_68.9e00903.275fda96_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the la times website has a lovely colour  pic of A.M. on it's entertainment
section. It heralds her imminent appearance at the aforementioned venue.
www.latimes.com --part1_68.9e00903.275fda96_boundary-- >From gaingber@grendel.noc.sbc.edu Wed Dec 6 14:21:30 2000 Received: from grendel.noc.sbc.edu (IDENT:root@grendel.noc.sbc.edu [198.28.62.80]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA04557 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:21:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.28.41.215] (41-215.host.sbc.edu [198.28.41.215]) by grendel.noc.sbc.edu (2.1.2/8.9.1/Execmail 2.1) with ESMTP id PAA12887 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:21:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gaingber@grendel.sbc.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:19:32 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Greg Ingber Subject: Jon Brion release on Dec. 11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: gaingber@grendel.noc.sbc.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi, I'm not sure if this had already been mentioned on the list (I kinda tuned out during the grammar wars) but I just checked jonbrion.com and it says that his solo album "Meaningless" will be released on Dec 11. exclusively thru ArtistDirect. I've already heard some tracks off this album (thru Napster), and I am very much looking forward to picking up the album! -greg >From cellophane808@hotmail.com Wed Dec 6 16:15:15 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f241.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.241]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA20394 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 16:15:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:14:41 -0800 Received: from 64.154.96.90 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 22:14:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.96.90] From: "Kelly Stitzel" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT (sort of):Fwd: Re: how 'bout some creativity? Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 17:14:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2000 22:14:41.0849 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE60AA90:01C05FD1] Reply-To: cellophane808@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey guys, This is a response I posted today on a listserv for my Shakespeare class. Our prof today was trying to tell us that there is really no emotion behind some music, that it's all technical (i.e. classical music) and that when it comes down to it, getting a piece of music or poem or story techncially right is more important than the emotion. Thought it might be an interesting topic to share with you guys. And there is Aimee content. Kelly >From: Kelly Stitzel >Reply-To: "Miami Univ ENG 372 A (Prof B J Harwood) Fall 2000" > >To: ENG372A@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU >Subject: Re: how 'bout some creativity? >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:02:23 -0500 > >I have to agree with what everyone has said so far about emotion and music. >I am not a musician, but I am a writer and I think that emotion does play a >huge part in how one's creativity manifests itself. The point that was made >today by harwood about the idea of being technically unique before >emotional >does make sense, though. In a lot of the workshops I've been in, people >have >tried experimenting with style. Sometimes, though, they get too caught up >in >trying to be different that the story's theme or feeling gets lost. I think >a similar analogy can be made with some of the popular music today (most of >which I don't listen to for reasons I won't go into). Some pop artists, >like >a lot of the teen sensations and such, are more interested in getting a >catchy tune out there, something the kids will go home singing, that they >don't even think about the lyrics and if they are even any good. Hell, most >of them don't even write their own songs. On the other hand, there are >musicians like Aimee Mann (for those of you not familiar with her work, she >used to front the 80s band 'Til Tuesday and did the music for the film >Magnolia). Her latest solo effort, Bachelor No. 2, was rejected by her >record label because they said there wasn't a single. She felt so strongly >about her work that she ended her contract with them and bought the album >back from them so she could distribute it herself. And, through internet >sales and the help of Magnolia's success and the hard work of her fans, the >album is doing well. So I guess my point, since I've really veered off >-topic here, is that yes, the technical side is important. But without >emotion behind it, what's the point? >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Wed Dec 6 16:36:58 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA24278 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 16:36:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [206.8.2.192] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 06-Dec-2000 16:35:13 -0600 Date: 06 Dec 2000 16:36:28 -0600 Message-ID: <911481737jsteinmann@clynch.com> From: Jack Steinmann Subject: re: OT (sort of) To: CC: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.1 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id QAA24279 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN One observation of Ms. Mann is that she isn't a very emotive performer, certainly not by Mariah Carey standards, nor is she gushy in interviews. The emotion is tied up in her (very carefully chosen) lyrics. Ms. Mann is also an inveterate craftsman (craftsperson? craftsmann?), very concerned about getting the chord progressions, arrangements, etc. just right. Jack Kelly Stitzel wrote: >there are >>musicians like Aimee Mann (for those of you not familiar with her work, she >>used to front the 80s band 'Til Tuesday and did the music for the film >>Magnolia). Her latest solo effort, Bachelor No. 2, was rejected by her >>record label because they said there wasn't a single. She felt so strongly >>about her work that she ended her contract with them and bought the album >>back from them so she could distribute it herself. And, through internet >>sales and the help of Magnolia's success and the hard work of her fans, the >>album is doing well. So I guess my point, since I've really veered off >>-topic here, is that yes, the technical side is important. But without >>emotion behind it, what's the point? >From jillpw@hotmail.com Wed Dec 6 19:15:48 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f27.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.27]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA21065 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:15:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:15:16 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Dec 2000 01:15:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: CitySearch's Write-Up Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 20:15:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2000 01:15:16.0052 (UTC) FILETIME=[2810D940:01C05FEB] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Citysearch LA lists tommorow night's House of Blues concert as their concert pick of the week. Below is what they say. Nothing new but its nice anyway. Event Profile The Skinny In 1985, Aimee Mann's voice carried 'Til Tuesday into one-hit wonder status with the dramatic "Voices Carry," but after leaving the band she toiled on as an obscure-if rather respected-solo artist. All that changed in 1999, when her lovely, literate songs received a jump-start in the form of a plague of frogs. In P.T. Anderson's surreal drama "Magnolia," Mann's songs-including the lilting "Save Me"-comforted a gaggle of confused characters as giant toads rained down on them. With the surprising success of both the film's soundtrack and her third solo album, "Bachelor No. 2," along with an Oscar nomination for Best Song, Mann no longer finds herself the eternal critics' darling, but instead an all-out breakthrough success. The Crowd Mann's fervent cult followers and the newly initiated. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Wed Dec 6 19:28:23 2000 Received: from web1401.mail.yahoo.com (web1401.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.165]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id TAA23747 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:28:22 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 25794 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Dec 2000 01:28:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20001207012821.25793.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.32] by web1401.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 17:28:21 PST Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:28:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: Re: Do you ever feel this way? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-515530019-976152501=:23882" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-515530019-976152501=:23882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ever since Aimee's Columbus concert on 10/20 the ONLY CDs I've listed to are hers. In the car, at home, everywhere. And I drive for about an hour daily. You'd think I'd be at least a little sick of them but I'm not. Not even Magnolia, which I've had since January and listened to at least once a week since then. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-515530019-976152501=:23882 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

ever since Aimee's Columbus concert on 10/20 the ONLY CDs I've listed to are hers.  In the car, at home, everywhere. And I drive for about an hour daily. You'd think I'd be at least a little sick of them but I'm not.  Not even Magnolia, which I've had since January and listened to at least once a week since then.


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Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-515530019-976152501=:23882-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 6 20:06:26 2000 Received: from imo-r15.mail.aol.com (imo-r15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA27785 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 20:06:25 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id i.50.e5400f8 (3851); Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:05:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50.e5400f8.27604a71@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:05:37 EST Subject: Re: CitySearch's Write-Up To: jillpw@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_50.e5400f8.27604a71_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_50.e5400f8.27604a71_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/6/00 8:16:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, jillpw@hotmail.com writes: > All that changed in 1999, > when her lovely, literate songs received a jump-start in the form of a > plague of frogs. In P.T. Anderson's surreal drama "Magnolia," Mann's > songs-including the lilting "Save Me"-comforted a gaggle of confused > characters as giant toads rained down on them. With the surprising success > of both the film's soundtrack and her third solo album, "Bachelor No. 2," > along with an Oscar nomination for Best Song, Mann no longer finds herself > the eternal critics' darling, but instead an all-out breakthrough success. > > The Crowd > Mann's fervent cult followers and the newly initiated. > > Yes it's nothing new, but it's extrememly funny, this review, especially the lines about the frogs:). Andrea --part1_50.e5400f8.27604a71_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/6/00 8:16:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jillpw@hotmail.com writes:


All that changed in 1999,
when her lovely, literate songs received a jump-start in the form of a
plague of frogs. In P.T. Anderson's surreal drama "Magnolia," Mann's
songs-including the lilting "Save Me"-comforted a gaggle of confused
characters as giant toads rained down on them. With the surprising success
of both the film's soundtrack and her third solo album, "Bachelor No. 2,"
along with an Oscar nomination for Best Song, Mann no longer finds herself
the eternal critics' darling, but instead an all-out breakthrough success.

The Crowd
Mann's fervent cult followers and the newly initiated.



Yes it's nothing new, but it's extrememly funny, this review, especially the
lines about the frogs:).
Andrea --part1_50.e5400f8.27604a71_boundary-- >From wstewart@landmarknet.net Wed Dec 6 20:29:25 2000 Received: from dravite.mint.net (dravite.mint.net [216.227.128.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA29311 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 20:29:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from landmarknet.net (northconway-ppp-156.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.161]) by dravite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22758 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:29:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3A2EF671.D3D45904@landmarknet.net> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:31:13 -0500 From: Bill Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Subject: aimee in Boston Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: wstewart@landmarknet.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN On Jan 19, 2001. Tickets on sale Sat, Dec 9 at NOON! Bill. all excited. >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Wed Dec 6 21:38:29 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA05359 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:38:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.64.230]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001207033758.TRAS20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz>; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 03:37:58 +0000 Message-ID: <00b801c05fff$2c9a9000$ee424f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" , References: <3A2EF671.D3D45904@landmarknet.net> Subject: Re: aimee in Boston Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:38:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C05FD5.42427BE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C05FD5.42427BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where in Boston???? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Stewart=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 9:31 PM Subject: aimee in Boston=20 On Jan 19, 2001. Tickets on sale Sat, Dec 9 at NOON! Bill. all excited. ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C05FD5.42427BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where in Boston????
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill=20 Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, = 2000 9:31=20 PM
Subject: aimee in Boston

On Jan 19, 2001.  Tickets on sale Sat, Dec 9 at=20 NOON!

Bill.  all = excited.

------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C05FD5.42427BE0-- >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Wed Dec 6 21:47:59 2000 Received: from web1403.mail.yahoo.com (web1403.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.167]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id VAA05924 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:47:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 26444 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Dec 2000 03:47:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20001207034758.26443.qmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.72] by web1403.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:47:58 PST Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:47:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: Re: aimee in Boston To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-352118606-976160878=:24467" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-352118606-976160878=:24467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii how did you find out? it's not on the website yet. And anyone know how long the tour is suppossed to last/ if she will be coming to OH/Indiana/Mich. area? I'd go to Boston but I'm still in HS. If she plays in June though I'll travel anywhere in North America. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-352118606-976160878=:24467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii how did you find out? it's not on the website yet.  And anyone know how long the tour is suppossed to last/ if she will be coming to OH/Indiana/Mich. area?  I'd go to Boston but I'm still in HS.  If she plays in June though I'll travel anywhere in North America.


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Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-352118606-976160878=:24467-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Wed Dec 6 21:48:23 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA05951 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:48:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.64.230]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001207034751.TTYV20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 03:47:51 +0000 Message-ID: <00c501c06000$8e70d680$ee424f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: Boston Venue Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:48:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C05FD6.A452BE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C05FD6.A452BE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BERKLEE PERFORMANCE CTR. ACOUSTIC VAUDEVILLE WITH AIMEE MANN + MICHAEL PENN 136 MASS AVE, BOSTON FRI JAN 19, 2001 8:00PM Tickets on sale Sat, Dec 9 at NOON! Charge by Phone #: 617-931-2000=20 Internet Onsale: Saturday, December 09, 2000, 12:00PM=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C05FD6.A452BE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C05FD6.A452BE20-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Wed Dec 6 22:06:07 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA07280 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:06:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.64.230]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001207040535.TZIQ20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 04:05:35 +0000 Message-ID: <00d901c06003$087aae40$ee424f0c@hfpyz> From: "Andrew Warren" To: "Mannlist" Subject: East Coast Dates!!! Merry X Mas !!!! Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 23:06:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C05FD9.1EDB3BC0" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C05FD9.1EDB3BC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D6_01C05FD9.1EDB3BC0" ------=_NextPart_001_00D6_01C05FD9.1EDB3BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays for the East Coast!!!! Here are the dates so far!!! Two Philly area shows on a weekend! How = happy am I right now?!?!?! NEW PARK PRESENTS AIMEE MANN & MICHEAL PENN ACOUSTIC VAUDEVILLE WHITAKER CENTER HARRISBURG, PA FRI JAN 12, 2001 8:00PM Internet Onsale: Friday, December 08, 2000, 10:00AM =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- NEW PARK PRESENTS AIMEE MANN & MICHAEL PENN ACOUSTIC VAUDEVILLE KESWICK THEATRE INC.$2.50 RESTORATION FEE SAT JAN 13, 2001 8:00PM Internet Onsale: Friday, December 08, 2000, 10:00AM=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- BIRCHMERE MUSIC HALL 3701 MT VERNON AVE PRESENTS AIMEE MANN & MICHAEL PENN ACOUSTIC VAUDEVILLE JAN 15,16 & 17 2001 7:30PM Internet Onsale: Thursday, December 07, 2000, 10:00AM=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- BERKLEE PERFORMANCE CTR. ACOUSTIC VAUDEVILLE WITH AIMEE MANN + MICHAEL PENN 136 MASS AVE, BOSTON FRI JAN 19, 2001 8:00PM Tickets on sale Sat, Dec 9 at NOON! Charge by Phone #: 617-931-2000=20 Internet Onsale: Saturday, December 09, 2000, 12:00PM=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- ------=_NextPart_001_00D6_01C05FD9.1EDB3BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays for the East=20 Coast!!!!
 
Here are the dates so far!!! Two Philly area shows on a = weekend!=20 How happy am I right now?!?!?!
 
 
 
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3701 MT = VERNON=20 AVE
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AIMEE MANN & MICHAEL PENN
ACOUSTIC = VAUDEVILLE
JAN=20 15,16 & 17 2001 7:30PM
Internet Onsale: Thursday, December 07, 2000, = 10:00AM=20
BERKLEE=20 PERFORMANCE CTR.
ACOUSTIC VAUDEVILLE
WITH AIMEE MANN + MICHAEL = PENN
136=20 MASS AVE, BOSTON
FRI JAN 19, 2001 8:00PM

Tickets on = sale Sat, Dec=20 9 at NOON!
Charge by = Phone=20 #: 617-931-2000
Internet Onsale: Saturday, December 09, 2000, = 12:00PM=20
------=_NextPart_001_00D6_01C05FD9.1EDB3BC0-- ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C05FD9.1EDB3BC0 Content-Type: image/gif; name="trans.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Location: https://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/905/bz8s9901/ticketing.ticketmaster.com/img/tix/trans.gif R0lGODlhAQABAID/AMDAwAAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw== ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C05FD9.1EDB3BC0-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Wed Dec 6 22:26:02 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA08342 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:26:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.64.230]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001207042531.UEUT20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 04:25:31 +0000 Message-ID: <011101c06005$d1383a80$ee424f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: Thanks To The Mannlist .. Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 23:26:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010E_01C05FDB.E7A1EFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C05FDB.E7A1EFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks To The Mannlist=20 Thanks to the mannlist Aimee's fans can get a slight jump on tickets = sales. Once again aimeemann.com has no new dates and there has been no = newsletter alerting her "true" fans of the new dates. After being alerted of an east coast date I did some quick research = online and found several other dates. I know that people have said it = before but it would be nice to get tipped off... ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C05FDB.E7A1EFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks To The Mannlist
Thanks to the mannlist Aimee's fans can get a slight jump on = tickets sales.=20 Once again aimeemann.com has no new dates and there has been no = newsletter=20 alerting her "true" fans of the new dates.
 
After being alerted of an east coast date I did some quick research = online=20 and found several other dates. I know that people have said it before = but it=20 would be nice to get tipped off...
------=_NextPart_000_010E_01C05FDB.E7A1EFC0-- >From rushed@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Wed Dec 6 22:41:10 2000 Received: from kumc-scanout.kumc.edu (kumc-scanout-fs.kumc.edu [169.147.166.198]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id WAA09930 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:41:09 -0600 (CST) Received: FROM gatedo.kumc.edu BY kumc-scanout.kumc.edu ; Wed Dec 06 22:41:00 2000 -0600 Received: from [169.147.247.20] ([169.147.247.20]) by gatedo.kumc.edu; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 22:40:52 -0600 X-Sender: rushed@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200012061200.GAA13409@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:39:56 -0600 To: Aimee Mann listproc From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Siobh=E1n?= Wilkinson Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 993 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id WAA09933 Reply-To: rushed@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I completely take it back. Nice, crisp and clear: "Put me on top." Leave it to Jon. >I'll have to check, but from listening closely to Aimee's music, >I don't think there's any masking. > >Matt Wilkinson Siobhán >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Wed Dec 6 23:45:53 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA15771 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 23:45:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.5) with ESMTP id eB75jdR09200 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:45:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A2F23FB.2010105@ucdavis.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:45:31 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001206 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: CitySearch's Write-Up References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Jill Weisenfeld wrote: > Citysearch LA lists tommorow night's House of Blues concert as their > concert pick of the week. Below is what they say. Nothing new but its > nice anyway. > > Event Profile > > The Skinny > In 1985, Aimee Mann's voice carried 'Til Tuesday into one-hit wonder > status with the dramatic "Voices Carry," but after leaving the band she > toiled on as an obscure-if rather respected-solo artist. All that > changed in 1999, when her lovely, literate songs received a jump-start > in the form of a plague of frogs. In P.T. Anderson's surreal drama > "Magnolia," Mann's songs-including the lilting "Save Me"-comforted a > gaggle of confused characters as giant toads rained down on them. With > the surprising success of both the film's soundtrack and her third solo > album, "Bachelor No. 2," along with an Oscar nomination for Best Song, > Mann no longer finds herself the eternal critics' darling, but instead > an all-out breakthrough success. > > The Crowd > Mann's fervent cult followers and the newly initiated. It's nice that Aimee's getting this press, although I didn't like the mention about the frogs, kinda gives away the climax of the movie and spoiling those who haven't seen the movie yet. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Thu Dec 7 04:36:16 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f203.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.203]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id EAA28496 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 04:36:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 02:35:45 -0800 Received: from 24.237.122.124 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Dec 2000 10:35:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.122.124] From: "Paul Barras" To: gaingber@grendel.noc.sbc.edu, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Brion/Oswalt/Lisa Loeb, oh & Aimee too Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 01:35:44 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2000 10:35:45.0142 (UTC) FILETIME=[7490C160:01C06039] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I haven't seen it mentioned here, Greg, but over on the embrionic list, Entertainment Weekly's Chris Willman posted that a reliable source told him it would not be available until late January, for what it's worth >From: Greg Ingber >jonbrion.com and it says that his solo album "Meaningless" will be >released on Dec 11. exclusively thru ArtistDirect. thanks for that tip about the la times.com, Rick! It's bizarre that she gets prime real estate like that in cities where her show is sold out. we need to get that sort of plug in every market. as for being *aimeed out*, Tony, never. In fact, I nearly cried in Atlanta last week when I realized that I had an IWS in Seattle and 2 in Anchorage, but nary a copy on my person. Ever start humming RAY or AMATUER, and you just have to put the CD in? Then, you rip apart all of your luggage, veins beginning to pulse on the temples, face flush... Ok, maybe it's just me. Oh, for future reference, in my hotel there was this placard that said, "if you've forgotten anything at home, call the front desk..." I thought about it for a second, but what are the odds they'd have a spare? I consoled myself with Magnolia so it was a *no lose* proposition (except for the momentary spike in the old blood pressure). As for the AV dates, you can bet I will make one or two of those dates work. Bring the radar detector this time, Andrew. Incidentally Mr. BigWet, the day the list stops being a useful resource, well, people unsub. It's great that we're able to scoop the official channels sometimes. It's why people like Mr. Ingber don't give up after GrammarGate and the Napster Contra Scandal. I will say this though: we speak to Aimee's management nearly weekly, and it IS frustrating to interface with them and have NO mention of this information that comes fomr indirect channels 24 hours later. So yes, a little more List consideration would be nice. Geoff-The WHO sound like the Stones a bit. What a long song! That was the actual WHO and not the Wallflowers cover of the Who, right? Darcy-How do those AV dates match up with you NYC trip? Beware of Sharon! She's a flirt!! (Heck, watch out for me too!) Lisa--You are a future stalker...stocker as in AimeeStock. In June, the MAP becomes your concert planner??!! Welcome to the Ranks of the Freaks. Sean & Milan--I am most jealous of you two! Oh, we heard from Hausman's office that that HOB show is chockful of celebrities!! I would have FedExed my autograph book and hair sample kit if I'd only known sooner... Lastly, I figured since Patton who opens for Aimee on AV tours and Lisa Loeb, a pal of Aimee's, are involved that I would post this information of a benefit show that came via a LIsa Loeb mailing: ======================================================== THE J. KEITH VAN STRAATEN SHOW PRIMETIME HOLIDAY SPECIAL!! A BENEFIT FOR THE COALITION FOR CLEAN AIR Thursday, December 7, 8pm at the ACME Comedy Theatre 135 North La Brea Ave. (between Beverly and 1st) Live on Stage with scheduled guests... Lisa Loeb Dan Castellaneta Patton Oswalt The Duo-tones ...video pieces from Ed Begley Jr. ~ Kevin Meaney ~ Wil Wheaton ...with house music from Adam & The Chesters, featuring Adam Chester ...and more to be announced! Limited Seating! Tickets: $35 or $50 for two! --- TAX-DEDUCTIBLE! Go Here to Buy Tickets!! www.jkeith.net Already an LA WEEKLY Pick of the Week! "A growing list of top-shelf talent promises to make The J. Keith van Straaten Show Primetime Holiday Special an exceptional event" Soon to be a LOS ANGELES TIMES Best Bet! All proceeds benefit the Coalition for Clean Air -- buy your TAX-DEDUCTIBLE tickets online today! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Thu Dec 7 09:06:20 2000 Received: from web1405.mail.yahoo.com (web1405.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.169]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id JAA16704 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:06:19 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 26522 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Dec 2000 15:24:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20001207152412.26521.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.70] by web1405.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:24:12 PST Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 07:24:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: ticketmaster list of tour dates To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1255179497-976202652=:20670" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1255179497-976202652=:20670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii these are all the dates I could find: (if you check up on more dates later, go to "popular/rock" events and then go to "A" for aimee -it's under aimee mann, aimee mann & michael penn, & aimee mann & michael penn- acoustic vaudeville) AIMEE MANN Thu 12/07/00 9:00PM HOUSE OF BLUES HOLLYWOOD CA --------------------------------- AIMEE MANN Tue 12/12/00 8:00PM FILLMORE SAN FRANCISCO CA --------------------------------- AIMEE MANN Wed 12/13/00 8:30PM SUN THEATRE ANAHEIM CA --------------------------------- AIMEE MANN Fri 01/12/01 8:00PM WHITAKER CENTER HARRISBURG PA --------------------------------- AIMEE MANN Sat 01/13/01 8:00PM KESWICK THEATRE GLENSIDE PA AIMEE MANN & MICHAEL PENN Mon 01/15/01 7:30PM BIRCHMERE ALEXANDRIA VA --------------------------------- AIMEE MANN & MICHAEL PENN Tue 01/16/01 7:30PM BIRCHMERE ALEXANDRIA VA --------------------------------- AIMEE MANN & MICHAEL PENN Wed 01/17/01 7:30PM BIRCHMERE ALEXANDRIA VA AIMEE MANN AND MICHAEL PENN - ACOUSTIC VAUDEVILLE Fri 01/19/01 8:00PM BERKLEE PERFORMANCE CENTER BOSTON MA --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 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these are all the dates I could find:

(if you check up on more dates later, go to "popular/rock" events and then go to "A" for aimee -it's under aimee mann, aimee mann & michael penn, & aimee mann & michael penn- acoustic vaudeville)

AIMEE MANN
Thu       12/07/00       9:00PM
HOUSE OF BLUES
HOLLYWOOD CA

AIMEE MANN
Tue       12/12/00       8:00PM
FILLMORE
SAN FRANCISCO CA

AIMEE MANN
Wed       12/13/00       8:30PM
SUN THEATRE
ANAHEIM CA

AIMEE MANN
Fri       01/12/01       8:00PM
WHITAKER CENTER
HARRISBURG PA

AIMEE MANN
Sat       01/13/01       8:00PM
KESWICK THEATRE
GLENSIDE PA

AIMEE MANN & MICHAEL PENN
Mon       01/15/01       7:30PM
BIRCHMERE
ALEXANDRIA VA

AIMEE MANN & MICHAEL PENN
Tue       01/16/01       7:30PM
BIRCHMERE
ALEXANDRIA VA

AIMEE MANN & MICHAEL PENN
Wed       01/17/01       7:30PM
BIRCHMERE
ALEXANDRIA VA

AIMEE MANN AND MICHAEL PENN - ACOUSTIC VAUDEVILLE
Fri       01/19/01       8:00PM
BERKLEE PERFORMANCE CENTER
BOSTON MA


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Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1255179497-976202652=:20670-- >From perrico@ig.com.br Thu Dec 7 09:47:27 2000 Received: from srv13-poa.poa.terra.com.br (srv13-poa.poa.zaz.com.br [200.248.149.91]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id JAA19324 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:47:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from srv8-poa.poa.terra.com.br (srv8-poa.poa.terra.com.br [200.248.149.253]) by srv13-poa.poa.terra.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA31353 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:46:39 -0200 Received: from p (dl0039-aju.aju.terra.com.br [200.241.54.39] (may be forged)) by srv8-poa.poa.terra.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA04271 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:46:36 -0200 Message-ID: <004001c06065$3d828060$2736f1c8@p> From: "Adrian" To: Subject: Re: OT (sort of):Fwd: Re: how 'bout some creativity? Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:49:04 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: perrico@ig.com.br Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian To: Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 1:48 PM Subject: Re: OT (sort of):Fwd: Re: how 'bout some creativity? > i wanna get out from mann list. can anyone help me? > adrian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kelly Stitzel > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:14 PM > Subject: OT (sort of):Fwd: Re: how 'bout some creativity? > > > > Hey guys, > > This is a response I posted today on a listserv for my Shakespeare class. > > Our prof today was trying to tell us that there is really no emotion > behind > > some music, that it's all technical (i.e. classical music) and that when > it > > comes down to it, getting a piece of music or poem or story techncially > > right is more important than the emotion. Thought it might be an > interesting > > topic to share with you guys. And there is Aimee content. > > > > Kelly > > > > > > > > >From: Kelly Stitzel > > >Reply-To: "Miami Univ ENG 372 A (Prof B J Harwood) Fall 2000" > > > > > >To: ENG372A@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU > > >Subject: Re: how 'bout some creativity? > > >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:02:23 -0500 > > > > > >I have to agree with what everyone has said so far about emotion and > music. > > >I am not a musician, but I am a writer and I think that emotion does play > a > > >huge part in how one's creativity manifests itself. The point that was > made > > >today by harwood about the idea of being technically unique before > > >emotional > > >does make sense, though. In a lot of the workshops I've been in, people > > >have > > >tried experimenting with style. Sometimes, though, they get too caught up > > >in > > >trying to be different that the story's theme or feeling gets lost. I > think > > >a similar analogy can be made with some of the popular music today (most > of > > >which I don't listen to for reasons I won't go into). Some pop artists, > > >like > > >a lot of the teen sensations and such, are more interested in getting a > > >catchy tune out there, something the kids will go home singing, that they > > >don't even think about the lyrics and if they are even any good. Hell, > most > > >of them don't even write their own songs. On the other hand, there are > > >musicians like Aimee Mann (for those of you not familiar with her work, > she > > >used to front the 80s band 'Til Tuesday and did the music for the film > > >Magnolia). Her latest solo effort, Bachelor No. 2, was rejected by her > > >record label because they said there wasn't a single. She felt so > strongly > > >about her work that she ended her contract with them and bought the album > > >back from them so she could distribute it herself. And, through internet > > >sales and the help of Magnolia's success and the hard work of her fans, > the > > >album is doing well. So I guess my point, since I've really veered off > > >-topic here, is that yes, the technical side is important. But without > > >emotion behind it, what's the point? > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > __________ > > >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > > >http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > > >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Thu Dec 7 11:21:36 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA29660 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:21:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.67.226]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001207172104.ZRVS20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:21:04 +0000 Message-ID: <01be01c06072$260872c0$ee424f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: Looking up $$$ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:21:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BB_01C06048.3C79C920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BB_01C06048.3C79C920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Things must be looking up for Aimee because her ticket prices are going = up. The Keswick show is up $28.50 + $4 handling fee. If you have not ordered tickets yet do so. !! =20 Call NOW - 215-572-7650 ------=_NextPart_000_01BB_01C06048.3C79C920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Things must be looking up for Aimee because her ticket prices are = going up.=20 The Keswick show is up $28.50 + $4 handling fee.
 
 
If you have not ordered tickets yet do so. !! 
 
Call NOW - 215-572-7650
------=_NextPart_000_01BB_01C06048.3C79C920-- >From speed3@hawaii.rr.com Thu Dec 7 12:43:07 2000 Received: from hawaii.rr.com (hnlmail1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.227.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA06549 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:43:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.25.249.219] ([24.25.249.219]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.617.61); Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:43:01 -1000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 08:44:18 -1000 Subject: Tour Dates From: Darcy To: Mannlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speed3@hawaii.rr.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN To those who live on the mainland, Unfortunately, it seems my first Aimee show will have to wait, as none of the dates coincide with my trip to New York (Dec. 23 - Jan. 1). Maybe someone could talk to Aimee and convince her NOT to spend time with her friends and family over the holidays and to hold a special concert in NYC on New Year's Eve just for me. Alas, I will probably have to settle for Sharon and Paul lusting over me instead! By the way, I, too, find myself listening to Aimee all the time, and this has been going on for almost a decade now. I'm in the middle of law school finals right now, and listening to Aimee is a necessity for stress alleviation. Darcy >From diri.gini@virgin.net Thu Dec 7 13:31:11 2000 Received: from mta7-svc.virgin.net (mta7-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA18232 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:31:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.253.40.17]) by mta7-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP id <20001207193106.DXLT13038.mta7-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 19:31:06 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01c06083$c038bce0$1128fd3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: Subject: Re: OT (sort of):Fwd: Re: how 'bout some creativity? Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 19:26:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi all, Thanks Kelly, for bringing this up and don't worry, I will bring this round to Aimee. :-) > Our prof today was trying to tell us that there is really no emotion behind > some music, that it's all technical (i.e. classical music) In terms of conventional music (ie. not twelve note music), I guess he must be referring to the Baroque style, epitomised by Vivaldi, Bach, Handel and Mozart; all of whom were technical wizards. The trouble is I have quite a large collection of these composers, especially Vivaldi, precisely because I find it very emotional. All three have written music of umimaginable beauty and vitality. One thing these composers, particularly Vivaldi, do suffer from, is that a lot of their music does sound pretty much the same. One critic said that Vivaldi wrote the same concerto 500 times, which illustrates the point, though it is rather unfair. The Baroque composers worked for patrons, having about as much status as say, a stone mason and were not entirely free to follow their own imaginations. In Vivaldi's case the patron was the church and in G.F. Handel's it was King George III (The one in The Madness of King George, though Handel died before George was crowned.). To illustrate how silly things could get, George III loved military music and hated the violin, so Handel had to write a lot of music for brass instruments. Given that Handel was trained as a violinist, this must've been maddening! It was Beethoven who broke the mould musically and it's him we have to thank for making the idea of artistic freedom respectable, though he wasn't able to free the artist entirely. Basically, there's always been a conflict of interest between the artist and the audience; whether it's a rich patron or the market. For Aimee, things are in a way even worse, because not only does she have to cater to people who are often not interested in music per se; but she also has to deal with rich patrons - the record companies - who she has to convince her material is saleable. Of course, if your tutor was refering to Schoenberg, Webern et al, then all of the above isn't relevant to this topic and I'm out of my league, because I find twelve note music appalling. I guess I just have to have my tonic. ;-) > and that when it > comes down to it, getting a piece of music or poem or story techncially > right is more important than the emotion. I'd like to make a distinction here between a creative artist and a performing artist, becuase what I'm going to say applies only to the former. To me, putting some emotion into something smacks of contrivance; surely the act of creating a scene will generate the required emotion and that will automatically change the way you write, paint etc. Perhaps what your tutor meant was that the writer should only _concern_ him/herself with the technical aspects of creation, becuase emotional matters will take care of themselves? Certainly, any creative artist has to master the chosen medium, aquiring technical skills to do so; otherwise she/he will never acheive the depth of scope necessary to make the work interesting. > Thought it might be an interesting > topic to share with you guys. And there is Aimee content. Thanks again, (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Thu Dec 7 14:05:55 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f259.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.134]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA22229 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:05:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:05:23 -0800 Received: from 24.237.122.234 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:05:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.122.234] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Town Hall-NYC Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:05:23 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2000 20:05:23.0705 (UTC) FILETIME=[08939690:01C06089] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN There will be a show in New York City at Town Hall, but Hausman's asst said the date has yet to be firmed up. I lobbied for January 10th!! hahaha! I am sure *that* will do it. More info soon! I wanted all Street Team members to know that Aimee's management is turning industry people and other people down BEFORE us. We are getting priority for tickets which is a very fine *thank you* from her management. I was touched. (Of course, they could jsut be telling me that, but I doubt it. ) _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From geoffl@pacbell.net Thu Dec 7 14:46:26 2000 Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA26650 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:46:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from pacbell.net ([206.170.33.12]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G57004K4P7HRC@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:09:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:12:17 -0800 From: Geoff Subject: Re: ticketmaster list of tour dates To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Message-id: <3A2FE111.7C3A6790@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD compaq (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20001207152412.26521.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> Reply-To: geoffl@pacbell.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The weird thing is that Petaluma, CA (12/13) is missing, and that's cuz it's on tickets.com, and not on Ticketmaster. I wonder what else might be missing for similar reasons, since aimeemann.com has only listed the West Coast dates so far. Geoff >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Thu Dec 7 16:51:51 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA09388 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 16:51:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.67.39]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001207225118.DMMX20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 22:51:18 +0000 Message-ID: <02eb01c060a0$4588c900$ee424f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: Stalking notes.... Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:51:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02E8_01C06076.5BF27E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02E8_01C06076.5BF27E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aimee will not be at Town Hall Saturday or Lupo's in Providence RI on = 1/20 because there is already something else scheduled at both venues. = Maybe early that week like Sunday 1/21 or Monday 1/22.=20 Located in the historic Back Bay, the Berklee Performance Center is at = the core of Boston's entertainment and cultural community. The center = contains 1,220 seats, state-of-the-art sound and lighting systems, and a = full range of multimedia capabilities.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_02E8_01C06076.5BF27E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

Aimee will not be at Town Hall Saturday or Lupo's in Providence = RI on 1/20 because there is already something else scheduled at = both=20 venues. Maybe early that week like Sunday 1/21 or Monday 1/22. =
 
Located in the historic Back Bay, the Berklee Performance=20 Center is at the core of Boston’s entertainment and = cultural community.=20 The center contains 1,220 seats, state-of-the-art sound and lighting = systems,=20 and a full range of multimedia capabilities.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_02E8_01C06076.5BF27E40-- >From missy@honeybeepub.com Thu Dec 7 17:17:24 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA12969 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:15:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA76649 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:15:02 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 15:16:27 -0800 Subject: Re: Stalking notes.... From: Missy Roback To: Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <02eb01c060a0$4588c900$ee424f0c@hfpyz> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3059046988_2881317_MIME_Part" Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3059046988_2881317_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable and for those trivia nuts, berklee is the music school aimee attended. missy ----------- Located in the historic Back Bay, the Berklee Performance Center is at the core of Boston=B9s entertainment and cultural community. The center contains 1,220 seats, state-of-the-art sound and lighting systems, and a full range of multimedia capabilities.=20 --MS_Mac_OE_3059046988_2881317_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Stalking notes.... and for those trivia nuts, berklee is the music school aimee attended.

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Located in the historic Back Bay, the Berklee Performance Center is = at the core of Boston=B9s entertainment and cultural community. The center con= tains 1,220 seats, state-of-the-art sound and lighting systems, and a full r= ange of multimedia capabilities.
--MS_Mac_OE_3059046988_2881317_MIME_Part-- >From tvarnas@excite.com Thu Dec 7 19:16:51 2000 Received: from fortune.excite.com (fortune-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.203]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA29343 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 19:16:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from scorch.excite.com ([199.172.152.240]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20001208011619.CJNC27807.fortune.excite.com@scorch.excite.com> for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:16:19 -0800 Message-ID: <16223097.976238179227.JavaMail.imail@scorch.excite.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:16:19 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Varnas To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: When in Boston... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 209.214.184.194 Reply-To: tvarnas@excite.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN To the sonic hawk et al. Guys, I'd love to join you in Boston but I can't make it on January. I actually lived briefly at Berklee (on Hemenway [sic] street, near a conservatory -- I forget the name. I don't think Aimee was living there at the time). You can't miss the Berklee arts center -- it's the big building on the corner of Mass. Ave. and Boylston Street. The neighborhood has a vaguely seedy atmosphere . Berklee was started in the 1940-50's as a vocational jazz school, as opposed to the classically based schools such as Juliard and their ilk. From the start, Berklee was, well, kinda seedy. Even its name was fabricated to sound like that prestigious west coast school. As far as I know, there is no Mr.Berklee. Aimee went there for two years in the early 80's. She started as a vocal student, which is what musically clueless people usually major in. (It's hard being a musician when you can't actually *play* an instrument.) Aimee later turned to recording engineering before deciding to take up bass guitar which, I suspect, is the easiest instrument to learn (no chords). I can only imagine what her vocal instructor thought of her reedy, nasalic voice. Personally, I LOVE her voice, but it has neither power nor range. I suspect the vocal coach steered Aimee to take up sound recording instead. Oh well, what do "experts" know anyway! When you're there at Berklee, you can stop by 'Daddy's Music', about a block away on Mass Ave. (Yep, Tony knows where *ALL* the music stores are!) Be sure to go to the 'Marakesh Cafe' -- if it's still there -- and check out their fallafel-tahini pita sandwiches. If you want some *really* good food, go the 'Legal Seafoods' The restaurant has several locations, including Boylston Street and Copley Square. (You can walk to them before or after the show). I personaly like the one at Cambridge on the MIT campus. And speaking about MIT, if you go walking on the Mass Ave. bridge towards Cambridge, you'll notice the grafitti "smoots". A "smoot" is a unit of measurement that's equal to the height of some MIT frat bro named Smoot. The units refer to the distance to their frat house (I think). Anyway, hope y'all enjoy the show... Cheers: Tony PS: dress warmly _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 7 23:41:19 2000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA23556 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 23:41:18 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.78.db6b2d7 (2519) for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 00:40:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <78.db6b2d7.2761ce5a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 00:40:42 EST Subject: Start Counting To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_78.db6b2d7.2761ce5a_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_78.db6b2d7.2761ce5a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The top 50 Albums of the year countdown on stations WXPN (Philly) and WFUV (NYC) are on. With XPN, go to wxpn.org, click on countdown, and vote. Same thing with wfuv.org. Magnolia and B#2 are up on XPN's list, you choose from a selection of albums, get five votes. With FUV you write down your three favorites. You can only vote once. And with both your entered to win CD's, in XPN's case all 50 CD in the countdown. Andrea --part1_78.db6b2d7.2761ce5a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The top 50 Albums of the year countdown on stations WXPN (Philly) and WFUV
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get five votes.  With FUV you write down your three favorites. You can only
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Andrea --part1_78.db6b2d7.2761ce5a_boundary-- >From mark.smith@readysteadyhost.com Fri Dec 8 08:05:43 2000 Received: from readysteadyhost.com (readysteadyhost.com [192.41.44.187]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA16502 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:05:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from marks.napier.ac.uk (marks.napier.ac.uk [146.176.4.151]) by readysteadyhost.com (8.8.5) id HAA19566; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 07:05:43 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <00a301c06120$1b7b7f60$9704b092@napier.ac.uk> From: "Mark M Smith" To: "The Mannlist" References: <911302582jsteinmann@clynch.com> Subject: Sonicnet -25 pop albums Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 14:06:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mark.smith@readysteadyhost.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Don't know if this has been mentioned but Sonicnet has a list of the 25 bedrock pop albums. To me its a pointless exercise and an impossible list to make, especially in a genre that they admit means so many different things to so many people but Bacherlor #2 is in there. http://www.sonicnet.com/news/essential_albums/pop/genre.jhtml >From KEYW@netscape.net Fri Dec 8 08:09:28 2000 Received: from wwcst270.netaddress.usa.net (wwcst270.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.15]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id IAA16571 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:09:27 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 23944 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Dec 2000 14:09:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20001208140926.23943.qmail@wwcst270.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.15 by wwcst270 for [146.18.173.75] via web-mailer(34WB1.4A.01) on Fri Dec 8 14:09:26 GMT 2000 Date: 8 Dec 00 09:09:26 EST From: Lou To: Subject: Aimee In Rolling Stone... X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34WB1.4A.01) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id IAA16572 Reply-To: KEYW@netscape.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Aimee is in R.S. Year End Issue, Best of 2000. Small piece titled "Oscar Snubs Ms. Mann", & small photo. Continues: "In the lamest music-related snub since 1977... Aimee Mann's Save Me, from the stellar MAGNOLIA soundtrack, was deemed less worthy than a Tarzan song by (it gets worse) Phil Collins. SAVE US"... Photo caption reads: "Bachelorette No.1: Aimee Got Screwedover"...... Aimee really comes off nicely!!! ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Fri Dec 8 08:58:02 2000 Received: from web1406.mail.yahoo.com (web1406.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.170]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id IAA21176 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:58:01 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 13090 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Dec 2000 14:58:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20001208145801.13089.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.141] by web1406.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:58:01 PST Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 06:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: LA concert To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1529195746-976287481=:11066" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1529195746-976287481=:11066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii so did anyone go to the concert last night? how was it? what's the set list? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1529195746-976287481=:11066 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii so did anyone go to the concert last night? how was it?  what's the set list?


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Millions of Products. --0-1529195746-976287481=:11066-- >From bigsean62@hotmail.com Fri Dec 8 13:35:38 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f46.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.46]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA22704 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 13:35:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 11:35:06 -0800 Received: from 164.67.232.69 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Dec 2000 19:35:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.67.232.69] From: "viva steffi" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: It was 20 years ago today...plus HOB set list Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 11:35:06 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2000 19:35:06.0969 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8216C90:01C0614D] Reply-To: bigsean62@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello and Happy Holidays!!! Ho Ho Ho! Well, it is busy-busy-busy for me as usual, so I have not much time to write...even less than usual in fact. Just the other day, I spent 12!!!straight hours Christmas shopping...and I liked it, LOL! I went to see the great Aimee Mann in concert last night at the House of Blues, of which I will write about in great detail later. But for now, here is the set list of last night's House of Blues show: 1. One 2. Choice in the Matter 3. That's Just What You Are 4. Save Me 5. How Am I Different 6. It's Not Safe 7. 4th of July 8. Red Vines 9. Susan 10. Ghost World 11. Long Shot 12. Sugarcoated (YEAH!!!) 13. Calling It Quits ENCORE: 14. Wise Up 15. Deathly (DOUBLE YEAH!!!) Also, there are two events that are taking place today on Hollywood's Walk of Fame. The first occurs at 11:30am in front of the El Capitan theatre, where "der Stingle", Sting will be getting his own star on the Hollywood Boulevard. So now Sting too, can experience the sensation of thousands and thousands of grotty tourists walking all over him, LOL! Meanwhile, later tonight there will be a vigil in front of John Lennon's star in front of the Capitol Records building on Vine Street, just north of Hollywood Blvd., to mark the occasion of the 20th Anniversary of his murder. Yes, it really has been 20 years already...you old-timers ARE getting old, LOL! There will also be a vigil held at Strawberry Fields in Central Park, New York City simultaneously. At the exact moment that Lennon was shot- 11:23pm EST and 8:23pm PST-there will be a lighting of a "Peace Candle" at both the LA and NY gatherings. I expect that other cities such as San Francisco and Seattle will also have their own way of remembering the death of John Lennon, although I haven't heard of anything of note...nor do I know what, if anything, England is doing to mark the occasion. Those of you in far away cities and lands, I would be most interested in knowing what, if any, attention is given to the 20th anniversary of John Lennon's death. I can still remember exactly how I heard that Lennon had been shot. December 8, 1980: I was watching Monday Night Football on ABC with my brothers and sisters. The Miami Dolphins were kicking butt over the New England Patriots. It was late in the third quarter, with the fourth quarter about to start, when Howard Cosell said he had something of importance to say(I know, I know, with Howard, he always thought he had something important to say, LOL!). That is when he announced that John Lennon had been shot. Immediately we all shot up like we were struck by lightning...at first, I was like, "Did I hear him right? Did he just say Lennon had been shot?" Then, I dashed up to my room, and turned on the radio to KMET 94.7 FM (the best rock radio station of LA at that time), and stayed up all night listening to the radio as more and more reports came in about the shooting, and people called in(even Paul McCartney) to express their feelings, and they played Beatles and John Lennon's sole work continuously through the night and into the day. For me, that was the last time that radio had any significance to me; where you felt like you were part of a vast unseen community; and where you could bond with your favourite DJ, and not have to keep changing the station every other song like I do today whenever I turn on the radio (which is very rarely). I mean, the first thing I would do when I woke up to go to school back then, was turn on KMET, and it would be the last thing I would hear as I drifted off to sleep at night. KMET was my constant companion during my day during the 70's...it was where I went to get away...for sanctuary. KMET was also the station that broke the story about the paraquat-marijuana spraying scandal first. Anyway, when I think back at how much I listened to radio back then, it amazes me how little radio plays a part in my life nowadays, even though I am still as much into music as I was, maybe even more so. It is just that now, I find out about new music on my own, as radio mostly plays junk today. Well, I gotta go now...work beckons again. Happy Holidays! Cheers and stay well...Sean :-) P.S. I bet in all the stories and specials in the US media about the anniversary of Lennon's death, not one mentions the curious fact that a large number of Americans first heard about the shooting from Howard Cosell, of all people. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 17:42:05 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0613E.2DDB7E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: perrico@ig.com.br Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0613E.2DDB7E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, i wanna leave this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! help me ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0613E.2DDB7E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0613E.2DDB7E80-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Fri Dec 8 15:30:06 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA18648 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 15:30:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.67.205]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001208212929.SMXD20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz>; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 21:29:29 +0000 Message-ID: <03f301c0615d$f32ded20$ee424f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" , References: Subject: It was 20 years ago today. Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 16:29:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03F0_01C06134.08605AE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03F0_01C06134.08605AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was at a Bruce Springsteen concert at the Spectrum in Philly. I had = really good seats. After the intermission Bruce played a couple of = rocking songs to start the second set. There was a little lull and he = walked over to a stage hand and said something then returned to center = stage. The was just one single blue light on him. He walked up and = garbed the mike which was still on the stand and he just stared down at = the ground. Everyone thought he was getting ready to tell one of his = stories. Then he shook his head and walked away from the mike. I turned to my friend and said I wonder if the president or someone died = if he would say anything. And we decided that he would not because it = would take away from the show and who knows what peoples reaction would = be. Bruce then stepped up to the mike played a song. Time has erased the = songs title because it really had not relevant. For an encore Bruce = said, "If it was not for this song I may have never picked up a guitar". = And he played "Twist and Shout" As soon as the show was over we bolted for our car because we had a long = drive home. When we got to the car we each commented on seeing people = crying in the parking lot. We turned on 93.3 WMMR and they were playing = a Beatles song. I half jokingly said I guess a Beatles died. Then they = played a John Lennon song and that was strange coming out after a = concert and not hearing Bruce and a live report from the show. This time = I said a little more seriously maybe John Lennon died. After the song = the DJ came on and said that they were waiting for more news on the = death of John Lennon. It was too fucking weird!! My friend and I were = like whoa! The two girls we were with were crying. The whole way home = ever report got worse. I'm not a big Beetle's fans and Paul was my = favorite but it was an emotional night. beachbum13 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: viva steffi=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: It was 20 years ago today...plus HOB set list Hello and Happy Holidays!!! Ho Ho Ho! Well, it is busy-busy-busy for me as usual, so I have not much time to write...even less than usual in fact. Just the other day, I spent=20 12!!!straight hours Christmas shopping...and I liked it, LOL! I went to see the great Aimee Mann in concert last night at the House = of Blues, of which I will write about in great detail later. But for now, here is the set list of last night's House of Blues show: 1. One 2. Choice in the Matter 3. That's Just What You Are 4. Save Me 5. How Am I Different 6. It's Not Safe 7. 4th of July 8. Red Vines 9. Susan 10. Ghost World 11. Long Shot 12. Sugarcoated (YEAH!!!) 13. Calling It Quits ENCORE: 14. Wise Up 15. Deathly (DOUBLE YEAH!!!) Also, there are two events that are taking place today on Hollywood's Walk of Fame. The first occurs at 11:30am in front of the El Capitan theatre, where "der Stingle", Sting will be getting his own star on = the Hollywood Boulevard. So now Sting too, can experience the sensation of thousands and thousands of grotty tourists walking all over him, LOL! Meanwhile, later tonight there will be a vigil in front of John = Lennon's star in front of the Capitol Records building on Vine Street, just = north of Hollywood Blvd., to mark the occasion of the 20th Anniversary of = his murder. Yes, it really has been 20 years already...you old-timers ARE getting old, LOL! There will also be a vigil held at Strawberry Fields in Central Park, New York City simultaneously. At the exact moment that Lennon was = shot- 11:23pm EST and 8:23pm PST-there will be a lighting of a "Peace = Candle" at both the LA and NY gatherings. I expect that other cities such as San Francisco and Seattle will also have their own way of remembering the death of John Lennon, although I haven't heard of anything of note...nor do I know what, if anything, England is doing to mark the occasion. Those of you in far away cities and lands, I would be most interested in knowing what, if any, = attention is given to the 20th anniversary of John Lennon's death. I can still remember exactly how I heard that Lennon had been shot. December 8, 1980: I was watching Monday Night Football on ABC with my brothers and sisters. The Miami Dolphins were kicking butt over the = New England Patriots. It was late in the third quarter, with the fourth quarter about to start, when Howard Cosell said he had something of importance to say(I know, I know, with Howard, he always thought he = had something important to say, LOL!). That is when he announced that John Lennon had been shot. Immediately we all shot up like we were struck = by lightning...at first, I was like, "Did I hear him right? Did he just = say Lennon had been shot?" Then, I dashed up to my room, and turned on the radio to KMET 94.7 FM (the best rock radio station of LA at that = time), and stayed up all night listening to the radio as more and more = reports came in about the shooting, and people called in(even Paul McCartney) to express their feelings, and they played Beatles and John Lennon's sole work continuously through the night and into the day. For me, that was the last time that radio had any significance to me; where you felt like you were part of a vast unseen community; and = where you could bond with your favourite DJ, and not have to keep changing = the station every other song like I do today whenever I turn on the radio (which is very rarely). I mean, the first thing I would do when I woke up to go to school back then, was turn on KMET, and it would be the = last thing I would hear as I drifted off to sleep at night. KMET was my constant companion during my day during the 70's...it was where I went to get away...for sanctuary. KMET was also the station that broke the story about the paraquat-marijuana spraying scandal first. Anyway, when I think back at how much I listened to radio back then, = it amazes me how little radio plays a part in my life nowadays, even = though I am still as much into music as I was, maybe even more so. It is just that now, I find out about new music on my own, as radio mostly plays junk today. Well, I gotta go now...work beckons again. Happy Holidays! Cheers and stay well...Sean :-) P.S. I bet in all the stories and specials in the US media about the anniversary of Lennon's death, not one mentions the curious fact that a large number of Americans first heard about the shooting from Howard Cosell, of all people. = _________________________________________________________________________= ____________ Get more from the Web. 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I was at a Bruce Springsteen concert at the Spectrum in Philly. I = had=20 really good seats. After the intermission Bruce played a couple of = rocking=20 songs to start the second set. There was a little lull and he = walked over=20 to a stage hand and said something then returned to center stage. The = was just=20 one single blue light on him. He walked up and garbed the mike which was = still=20 on the stand and he just stared down at the ground. Everyone thought he = was=20 getting ready to tell one of his stories. Then he shook his head and = walked away=20 from the mike.
 
I turned to my friend and said I wonder if the president or someone = died if=20 he would say anything. And we decided that he would not because it would = take=20 away from the show and who knows what peoples reaction would be. Bruce = then=20 stepped up to the mike played a song. Time has erased the songs = title=20 because it really had not relevant. For an encore Bruce said, = "If it=20 was not for this song I may have never picked up a guitar". And he = played "Twist=20 and Shout"
 
As soon as the show was over we bolted for our car because we had a = long=20 drive home. When we got to the car we each commented on seeing people = crying in=20 the parking lot. We turned on 93.3 WMMR and they were playing a Beatles = song. I=20 half jokingly said I guess a Beatles died. Then they played a John = Lennon song=20 and that was strange coming out after a concert and not hearing Bruce = and a live=20 report from the show. This time I said a little more seriously maybe = John Lennon=20 died. After the song the DJ came on and said that they were waiting for = more=20 news on the death of John Lennon. It was too fucking weird!! My friend = and I=20 were like whoa! The two girls we were with were crying. The whole way = home ever=20 report got worse. I'm not a big Beetle's fans and Paul was my favorite = but it=20 was an emotional night.
 
 
beachbum13
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 viva=20 steffi
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 = 2:35=20 PM
Subject: It was 20 years ago = today...plus=20 HOB set list

Hello and Happy Holidays!!! Ho Ho Ho!

Well, it = is=20 busy-busy-busy for me as usual, so I have not much time = to
write...even=20 less than usual in fact. Just the other day, I spent
12!!!straight = hours=20 Christmas shopping...and I liked it, LOL!

I went to see the = great Aimee=20 Mann in concert last night at the House of
Blues, of which I will = write=20 about in great detail later. But for now,
here is the set list of = last=20 night's House of Blues show:

1. One
2. Choice in the = Matter
3.=20 That's Just What You Are
4. Save Me
5. How Am I Different
6. = It's Not=20 Safe
7. 4th of July
8. Red Vines
9. Susan
10. Ghost = World
11.=20 Long Shot
12. Sugarcoated (YEAH!!!)
13. Calling It=20 Quits
ENCORE:
14. Wise Up
15. Deathly (DOUBLE=20 YEAH!!!)


Also, there are two events that are taking place = today on=20 Hollywood's
Walk of Fame. The first occurs at 11:30am in front of = the El=20 Capitan
theatre, where "der Stingle", Sting will be getting his own = star on=20 the
Hollywood Boulevard. So now Sting too, can experience the = sensation=20 of
thousands and thousands of grotty tourists walking all over him, = LOL!

Meanwhile, later tonight there will be a vigil in front of = John=20 Lennon's
star in front of the Capitol Records building on Vine = Street, just=20 north
of Hollywood Blvd., to mark the occasion of the 20th = Anniversary of=20 his
murder. Yes, it really has been 20 years already...you = old-timers=20 ARE
getting old, LOL!

There will also be a vigil held at = Strawberry=20 Fields in Central Park,
New York City simultaneously. At the exact = moment=20 that Lennon was shot-
11:23pm EST and 8:23pm PST-there will be a = lighting=20 of a "Peace Candle"
at both the LA and NY gatherings.

I = expect that=20 other cities such as San Francisco and Seattle will also
have their = own way=20 of remembering the death of John Lennon, although I
haven't heard = of=20 anything of note...nor do I know what, if anything,
England is = doing to=20 mark the occasion. Those of you in far away cities
and lands, I = would be=20 most interested in knowing what, if any, attention
is given to the = 20th=20 anniversary of John Lennon's death.

I can still remember = exactly how I=20 heard that Lennon had been shot.

December 8, 1980: I was = watching=20 Monday Night Football on ABC with my
brothers and sisters. The = Miami=20 Dolphins were kicking butt over the New
England Patriots. It was = late in=20 the third quarter, with the fourth
quarter about to start, when = Howard=20 Cosell said he had something of
importance to say(I know, I know, = with=20 Howard, he always thought he had
something important to say, LOL!). = That is=20 when he announced that John
Lennon had been shot. Immediately we = all shot=20 up like we were struck by
lightning...at first, I was like, "Did I = hear him=20 right? Did he just say
Lennon had been shot?" Then, I dashed up to = my room,=20 and turned on the
radio to KMET 94.7 FM (the best rock radio = station of LA=20 at that time),
and stayed up all night listening to the radio as = more and=20 more reports
came in about the shooting, and people called in(even = Paul=20 McCartney)
to express their feelings, and they played Beatles and = John=20 Lennon's
sole work continuously through the night and into the=20 day.

For me, that was the last time that radio had any = significance to=20 me;
where you felt like you were part of a vast unseen community; = and=20 where
you could bond with your favourite DJ, and not have to keep = changing=20 the
station every other song like I do today whenever I turn on the = radio
(which is very rarely). I mean, the first thing I would do = when I=20 woke
up to go to school back then, was turn on KMET, and it would = be the=20 last
thing I would hear as I drifted off to sleep at night. KMET = was=20 my
constant companion during my day during the 70's...it was where = I=20 went
to get away...for sanctuary. KMET was also the station that = broke=20 the
story about the paraquat-marijuana spraying scandal=20 first.

Anyway, when I think back at how much I listened to = radio back=20 then, it
amazes me how little radio plays a part in my life = nowadays, even=20 though
I am still as much into music as I was, maybe even more so. = It is=20 just
that now, I find out about new music on my own, as radio = mostly=20 plays
junk today.

Well, I gotta go now...work beckons=20 again.

Happy Holidays!
Cheers and stay well...Sean = :-)

P.S. I=20 bet in all the stories and specials in the US media about = the
anniversary=20 of Lennon's death, not one mentions the curious fact that
a large = number of=20 Americans first heard about the shooting from Howard
Cosell, of all = = people.
______________________________________________________________= _______________________
Get=20 more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
------=_NextPart_000_03F0_01C06134.08605AE0-- >From jillpw@hotmail.com Fri Dec 8 16:01:09 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f63.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.63]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA09384 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 16:01:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 14:00:38 -0800 Received: from 63.31.22.74 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Dec 2000 22:00:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.31.22.74] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, bigsean62@hotmail.com Subject: OT: It was 20 years ago today. Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 17:00:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2000 22:00:38.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C403720:01C06162] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was at that same Bruce Springsteen Concert at the Spectrum in Philly. (Andy...I think you and I have been to a lot of the same concerts). I also noticed that something was wrong, but as Andy said, Springsteen didn't mention it during the show. I was a freshman in college so I took the subway back and I found out in the subway car. Everybody was talking about it. A lot of people in my dorm knew that I was a big Beatles fan and when I got back to my room there were about 50 messages of sympathy about Lennon written on my door, many of them from people I didn't even know. I also recieved a half a dozen cards in the next few days and nearly eveyone I spoke to said how sorry they were. I have to say that what made the whole situation so surreal for me (and its interesting how much we are willing to tell other people we don't know on the list) is that my father had been shot a few months before and it was just so weird that I received all of these expressions of sympathy about John Lennon but not much about my father. Of course that is because people didn't know about my father and John Lennon was such an important figure. It is hard to believe that that was 20 years ago! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From diri.gini@virgin.net Fri Dec 8 16:47:49 2000 Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA08162 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 16:47:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.253.40.32]) by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001208224957.IUKA255.mta1-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer>; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 22:49:57 +0000 Message-ID: <004701c06168$602b08e0$2028fd3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: , References: <000a01c0614e$f39d75a0$2236f1c8@p> Subject: Re: where's the owner? Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 22:43:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C06168.43FB2740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C06168.43FB2740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello folks, Could some kind soul forward the following to Adrain at: = perrico@ig.com.br I have tried doing so myself, but he's still steeped in misery, poor = dear. ********** HOW TO GET OFF THE LIST ********** To sign off from the list, email to listproc@lists.cc.utexas.edu with the following request: (s)ignoff MANNLIST or (u)nsubscribe MANNLIST ********************************************************* Just remove the brackets, Ade. Personally, I'd just use the Delete key, if you're tired of off topics. IMHO I think you're asking a bit much of non-journalists to stay on = topic all the time. Regards, (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare Thanks, (-: Ian :-)=20 I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C06168.43FB2740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello folks,
 
Could some kind soul forward the following to Adrain = at: perrico@ig.com.br
 
I have tried doing so myself, but he's still steeped = in=20 misery, poor dear.
 


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Just=20 remove the brackets, Ade.
 
Personally, I'd just use the Delete key, if = you're=20 tired of off topics.

IMHO I think you're asking a bit much of=20 non-journalists to stay on topic
all the = time.

Regards,

(-: Ian=20 :-)

I count myself in nothing else so happy
As in a soul = remembering=20 my good friends
- Richard II by William = Shakespeare
Thanks,
 
(-: Ian :-)
 
I count myself in nothing else so happy
As in a = soul=20 remembering my good friends
- Richard II by William=20 Shakespeare
------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C06168.43FB2740-- >From missy@honeybeepub.com Fri Dec 8 17:40:46 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA08178 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 17:40:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA25398 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 15:40:44 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 15:42:10 -0800 Subject: Re: It was 20 years ago today. From: Missy Roback To: Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <03f301c0615d$f32ded20$ee424f0c@hfpyz> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN freshman year. i was in my dorm's study lounge in waltham, mass. studying for finals. at around 12:30 am, a guy burst in to the dead-quiet room and broke the news. i immediately went back to my dorm and listened to the radio all night. for the next several days, beatles music blasted from every dorm on campus (or more specifically, from the speakers propped up in everyone's windows). the only beatles album i had brought to school that year was abbey road, and i played it over and over. i never knew who that guy was who told us lennon had died. he didn't seem to know anyone in the study lounge. i wonder if he just went through the entire dorm, telling everyone. did anyone see the VH-1 special called John Lennon: The Last Years (or something like that)? it was good, but of course, unbelievably sad. there are few events that, 20 years later, still make me cry. just lennon and JFK/RFK. >From zazbo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Fri Dec 8 17:53:54 2000 Received: from piglet.cc.utexas.edu (zazbo@piglet.cc.utexas.edu [128.83.42.61]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA18492 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 17:53:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (zazbo@localhost) by piglet.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1/piglet.mc-1.10) with ESMTP id RAA03878; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 17:53:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 17:53:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G." X-Sender: zazbo@piglet.cc.utexas.edu To: "Ian F. Braidwood." cc: Mannlist Subject: Re: where's the owner? In-Reply-To: <004701c06168$602b08e0$2028fd3e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: zazbo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have taken care of the signoff request from perrico@ig.com.br Gary G. ============================================================= On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Ian F. Braidwood. wrote: > Hello folks, > > Could some kind soul forward the following to Adrain at: perrico@ig.com.br > > I have tried doing so myself, but he's still steeped in misery, poor dear. k >From sharbear@epix.net Fri Dec 8 19:31:51 2000 Received: from lima.epix.net (lima.epix.net [199.224.64.56]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA20616 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 19:31:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from epix.net (svcr-adsl-209-74-0-23.epix.net [209.74.0.23]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with ESMTP id eB91Vfp23045; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 20:31:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A318B59.32F4C9EA@epix.net> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 20:31:05 -0500 From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid X-Sender: "Sharon McDonnell Schmid" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jillpw@hotmail.com CC: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, bigsean62@hotmail.com Subject: Re: OT: It was 20 years ago today. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sharbear@epix.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Jill, I did not know that about your father. What a touching story. You know, it's true what Lennon wrote, "Life is what happens when your busy making other plans." Sometimes life throws us a curve and we don't understand why....but somehow we get through it and come out stronger (and more compassionate) in the end. For me it was the guy I was in love with--my very best friend. He committed suicide a few years ago and I still find it difficult to think about. Just remember you have a great bunch of people on this list (and you have me too!) whenever you need a friend. May God bring you peace and strength...... xoxo, sharon Jill Weisenfeld wrote: > I was at that same Bruce Springsteen Concert at the Spectrum in Philly. > (Andy...I think you and I have been to a lot of the same concerts). I also > noticed that something was wrong, but as Andy said, Springsteen didn't > mention it during the show. I was a freshman in college so I took the > subway back and I found out in the subway car. Everybody was talking about > it. > > A lot of people in my dorm knew that I was a big Beatles fan and when I got > back to my room there were about 50 messages of sympathy about Lennon > written on my door, many of them from people I didn't even know. I also > recieved a half a dozen cards in the next few days and nearly eveyone I > spoke to said how sorry they were. I have to say that what made the whole > situation so surreal for me (and its interesting how much we are willing to > tell other people we don't know on the list) is that my father had been shot > a few months before and it was just so weird that I received all of these > expressions of sympathy about John Lennon but not much about my father. Of > course that is because people didn't know about my father and John Lennon > was such an important figure. > > It is hard to believe that that was 20 years ago! > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 8 22:52:31 2000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA29499 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 22:52:31 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id p.bd.9a78bf7 (4452); Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:51:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:51:53 EST Subject: Re: OT: It was 20 years ago today. To: sharbear@epix.net, jillpw@hotmail.com CC: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, bigsean62@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-08 20:32:45 EST, sharbear@epix.net writes: > ust remember you have a great bunch of people on this list > (and you have me too!) whenever you need a friend. May God bring you peace > and > strength...... That goes for Sean and Andy too. Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 8 22:54:16 2000 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA29540 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 22:54:15 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id p.df.d5cd84e (4452); Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:51:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:51:01 EST Subject: Re: OT: It was 20 years ago today. To: sharbear@epix.net, jillpw@hotmail.com CC: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, bigsean62@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-08 20:32:45 EST, sharbear@epix.net writes: > I did not know that about your father. What a touching story. You know, it' > s true what > Lennon wrote, "Life is what happens when your busy making other plans." > Sometimes life > throws us a curve and we don't understand why....but somehow we get through > it and come > out stronger (and more compassionate) in the end. For me it was the guy I > was in love > with--my very best friend. He committed suicide a few years ago and I still > find it > difficult to think about. Just remember you have a great bunch of people on > this list > (and you have me too!) whenever you need a friend. May God bring you peace > and > strength...... Me too, I am real sorry about your father Jill, mine is dead too, he died about five years ago. And I'm sorry about your friend Sharon too, I had a friend commit suicide many years ago, I was crushed. You both are my friends, and I'm glad to have you as friends, it's a great feeling to have that be so. Take care, Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 8 23:03:48 2000 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA29996 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:03:48 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.5e.473c376 (4452) for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 00:03:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5e.473c376.27631712@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 00:03:14 EST Subject: Rob Buck (10 K Maniacs) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-08 23:50:33 EST, donsem@concentric.net writes: > Here's what was posted on greenchildren. IMO, the best you can do is keep > Rob in your thoughts and/or contribute to the Family Medical Fund if you > can: > > From blairw@aol.com > > As many of you may have heard from various news media reports (and that old > telephone game we all played as kids), Rob Buck is in the hospital. He is in > critical but stable condition with a disease that he has known about for a > long time which has gotten progressively worse over the past few months. > Last > week, it got drastically worse. We have no knowledge, and nor do his doctors, > > of what single event set off the final severe problems last week that have > led to his hospitalization. We may never know. > > We consider all of you part of our big Maniac family and appreciate any > thoughts and prayers that you might be able to direct Rob's way. > > Rob is not in a position to accept visitors to his hospital room and for > security and safety reasons, we will not be releasing the name or > whereabouts > of the hospital. Nor is Rob in a position to accept flowers, so we ask that > nobody send flowers. If you want to send Rob and his family a card, I'm sure > they would all love to receive them. Please send them in care of Big WalkUp > Management, 362 Rhode Island Street, Buffalo NY 14213. I must stress that no > packages of any kind will be accepted at this address. If you feel > absolutely > compelled to send something that would require more than a postal envelope > for packaging, management will consider your pleas on an as-is basis. Those > pleas can be addressed to BlairW@aol.com. > > We have had a few inquiries from friends and fans wanting to send gifts or > flowers. If you feel compelled to do something other than send a card, the > band has set up a bank account to help Rob's family offset the costs of > eating, sleeping and waiting in a city far away from their hometown. > Proceeds > from donations to this fund will do just what has been stated: aid Rob's > parents in what is a financial hardship to be away from work and home. > Doctors say this could be a long process. > > Donations should be sent to: > > Robert Buck Family Medical Fund > c/o Key Bank > 730 Foote Avenue > Jamestown, NY 14701 > > >From another list I'm on, this is so sad. Let's hope for the best. Andrea >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Sat Dec 9 00:27:15 2000 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA03960 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 00:27:14 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.ea.e59db3f (2618) for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 01:26:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 01:26:35 EST Subject: OT: It was 20 years ago today. To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 126 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was working the swing shift, loading trucks on that night 20 years ago. We took a break and had a TV tuned to the Monday night football game in the break room. That's when I heard Howard Cosell announce the death of John Lennon. I just could not believe it. I guess that was sometime around 8:45 PM. We had a radio that we listened to as we completed our shift and heard further reports. I remember I got off work at midnight and when I got home and turned on the TV, the "Tomorrow Show" with Tom Snyder was on and they were replaying Snyder's interview with Lennon from the early '70s. The other thing I clearly remember is the next morning I was walking down the street and I came to a San Francisco Chronicle newspaper rack and the headline read: John Lennon Slain. Even today, when I see old films of the Beatles I still find it hard to believe that John Lennon was heading toward being murdered. What a sad time it was that December night 20 years ago. Steve >From dewdrop@corplink.com.au Sat Dec 9 05:28:40 2000 Received: from mail01.apacinternet.com.au (mail03.apacinternet.com.au [203.17.73.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id FAA15161 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 05:28:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from corplink.com.au ([202.168.138.160]) by mail01.apacinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26460 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:28:32 GMT Message-ID: <3A32C242.E226264A@corplink.com.au> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:37:39 +1100 From: "Shanon Shah Mohd. Sidik" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 995 References: <200012081200.GAA04763@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: dewdrop@corplink.com.au Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello people! Can someone please tell me how I can redirect the Mannlist to another e-mail address? I won't be using this one anymore..... And I can't help myself! Here's my (premature) list for my best of 2000: (In random order)- 1. Aimee Mann - Bachelor #2 2. Madonna - Music 3. Bjork - Selmasongs 4. Carly Simon - The Bedroom Tapes 5. The Eels - Daisies of the Galaxy 6. U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind 7. Radiohead - Kid A 8. Powderfinger - Odyssey #5 9. Various artists - Snatch (Stealin' Stones and Breakin' Bones) Original Film Soundtrack 10. Blur - The Best Of >From deardelirious@netzero.net Sat Dec 9 10:47:51 2000 Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA02686 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:47:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from tot-te.proxy.aol.com (tot-te.proxy.aol.com [152.163.195.131]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id LAA28153 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer (AC930B33.ipt.aol.com [172.147.11.51]) by tot-te.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id eB9Gl7Q21879 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:47:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002001c061ff$f2879360$330b93ac@oemcomputer> From: "Stacey Hankins" To: "Aimee Mann listproc" References: <200012091200.GAA15971@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 996 Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:49:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Apparently-From: DearDelirious@aol.com Reply-To: deardelirious@netzero.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Okay, how do I get off this list? >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sat Dec 9 10:59:58 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f303.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.181]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA03034 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:59:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 08:59:27 -0800 Received: from 63.25.157.157 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 09 Dec 2000 16:59:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.25.157.157] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: deardelirious@netzero.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Instructions for Getting On/Off the Mannlist Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 11:59:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2000 16:59:27.0262 (UTC) FILETIME=[63A4FBE0:01C06201] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN For anyone who doesn't know...if you go to Aimeemann.com and click on "Mail" there are instructions for subscribing and unsubscribing from the Mannlist. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sat Dec 9 11:28:38 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA05216 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:28:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.67.87]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001209172805.UQUO5130.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 17:28:05 +0000 Message-ID: <00d001c06205$7e0b4440$57434f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: Ticketmaster Sucks!!! Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:28:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C061DB.946BD1C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C061DB.946BD1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TICKETMASTER SUCKS! Yesterday I tried to get back up tickets for Harrisburgh. I have an = account with Ticketmaster for "quicker service". Hahaha. I noticed that = I had a credit card other than the one I wanted to use. No biggie I = figure because I'm pretty sure I already have tickets for the show... So = yesterday I went into "My Account" and changed my cc info. This morning I log on and check "My Account" to make sure all the = changes that I made are there. I want good seats (who I'm I kidding I = want great seats!) and I'm not taking any chances... 10:01 I get through... looks like I'll get good seats! But my old CC = info is up?!?!?=20 I go to modify account. "WE have no account under that email". I have an = email to that address with my password on it! I just modified and = checked my account with that email????? I go back and try and find a way = to bypass the quick checkout..... Not happening. "Five minutes - The = time you have to complete transaction is up.......... 15 minutes later I get through and manually put my account info in and = get my ticket 8-9 rows back from my original seats. Your options... Don't use Ticketmaster and don't go...... This is the = third time something like this has happened. But they want people to use = the Internet to book tickets? ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C061DB.946BD1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
TICKETMASTER SUCKS!
 
Yesterday I tried to get back up tickets for Harrisburgh. I have an = account=20 with Ticketmaster for "quicker service". Hahaha. I noticed that I = had a=20 credit card other than the one I wanted to use. No biggie I figure = because I'm=20 pretty sure I already have tickets for the show... So yesterday I went = into "My=20 Account" and changed my cc info.
 
This morning I log on and check "My Account" to make sure all the = changes=20 that I made are there. I want good seats (who I'm I kidding I want great = seats!)=20 and I'm not taking any chances...
 
10:01 I get through... looks like I'll get good seats! But my old = CC info=20 is up?!?!?
I go to modify account. "WE have no account under that email". I = have an=20 email to that address with my password on it! I just modified and = checked my=20 account with that email????? I go back and try and find a way to bypass = the=20 quick checkout..... Not happening.  "Five minutes - The time you = have to=20 complete transaction is up..........
 
15 minutes later I get through and manually put my account info in = and get=20 my ticket 8-9 rows back from my original seats.
 
Your options... Don't use Ticketmaster and don't go...... This is = the third=20 time something like this has happened. But they want people to use the = Internet=20 to book tickets?
------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C061DB.946BD1C0-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sat Dec 9 11:46:47 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA06250 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:46:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.67.87]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001209174615.UTXJ5130.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 17:46:15 +0000 Message-ID: <010301c06208$079a7f80$57434f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" References: <200012091200.GAA15971@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> <002001c061ff$f2879360$330b93ac@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: how do I get off this list? Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:46:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0100_01C061DE.1E0BD5E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C061DE.1E0BD5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Send everybody on the list $5 .... Kidding you can't you stuck here forever!=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stacey Hankins=20 To: Aimee Mann listproc=20 Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 11:49 AM Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 996 Okay, how do I get off this list? ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C061DE.1E0BD5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Send everybody on the list $5 ....
 
Kidding you can't you stuck here forever!
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From:=20 Stacey Hankins
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------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C061DE.1E0BD5E0-- >From bmazur@mts.net Sat Dec 9 12:03:15 2000 Received: from smtp1.mts.net (smtp1.mts.net [205.200.16.74]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA06603 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:03:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from winklovic (b-59-147-res1.mts.net [209.202.59.147]) by smtp1.mts.net (8.10.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id eB9I30P17176 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:03:00 -0600 (CST) From: "Brent Mazur" To: "Mannlist" Subject: RE: how do I get off this list? Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:03:01 -0600 Message-ID: <000b01c0620a$44fcff40$f372fea9@winklovic> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C061D7.FA628F40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <010301c06208$079a7f80$57434f0c@hfpyz> Reply-To: bmazur@mts.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C061D7.FA628F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome to the Hotel Aimee Mann! Brent "Bubba" Mazur Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada www.sarahharmer.com [ Kidding you can't you stuck here forever! Okay, how do I get off this list? ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C061D7.FA628F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C061D7.FA628F40-- >From sproude@earthlink.net Sat Dec 9 12:07:13 2000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA06638 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:07:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from earthlink.net (sdn-ar-001sccharP216.dialsprint.net [158.252.92.130]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29525 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:07:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3275A4.D3817FE5@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 13:10:44 -0500 From: SMP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Mannlist Subject: Re: Ticketmaster Sucks!!! References: <00d001c06205$7e0b4440$57434f0c@hfpyz> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------94DC531D434A0D905AB94B50" Reply-To: sproude@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --------------94DC531D434A0D905AB94B50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed a lot of bugs with their website. Over the summer I was trying to get great seats to the Womens Gold Cup Soccer matches. So the minute the tickets went onsale i was right there online buddy. Anyhoo..my confirmations kept coming back under someone elses name. So i would have to hurry and log off and call and talk to an actual person at ticketmaster ( i mean come on this is the new millenium etc . who wants to talk to PEOPLE??? hehe) . This happened more than once and I didnt have one of those fast access accounts..just me frantically typing in my info each time. So...i certainly wouldnt trust my info to be stored with Ticketmaster. But You still do have to use them. Come on anti-trust busters..work your mojo on these people. beachbum13 wrote: > TICKETMASTER SUCKS! Yesterday I tried to get back up tickets for > Harrisburgh. I have an account with Ticketmaster for "quicker > service". Hahaha. I noticed that I had a credit card other than the > one I wanted to use. No biggie I figure because I'm pretty sure I > already have tickets for the show... So yesterday I went into "My > Account" and changed my cc info. This morning I log on and check "My > Account" to make sure all the changes that I made are there. I want > good seats (who I'm I kidding I want great seats!) and I'm not taking > any chances... 10:01 I get through... looks like I'll get good seats! > But my old CC info is up?!?!?I go to modify account. "WE have no > account under that email". I have an email to that address with my > password on it! I just modified and checked my account with that > email????? I go back and try and find a way to bypass the quick > checkout..... Not happening. "Five minutes - The time you have to > complete transaction is up.......... 15 minutes later I get through > and manually put my account info in and get my ticket 8-9 rows back > from my original seats. Your options... Don't use Ticketmaster and > don't go...... This is the third time something like this has > happened. But they want people to use the Internet to book tickets? --------------94DC531D434A0D905AB94B50 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
I noticed a lot of bugs with their website.  Over the summer I was trying to get great seats to the Womens Gold Cup Soccer matches.  So the minute the tickets went onsale i was right there online buddy.  Anyhoo..my confirmations kept coming back under someone elses name.  So i would have to hurry and log off and call and talk to an actual person at ticketmaster ( i mean come on this is the new millenium etc .  who wants to talk to PEOPLE??? hehe) .
 

This happened more than once and I didnt have one of those fast access accounts..just me frantically typing in my info each time.  So...i certainly wouldnt trust my info to be stored with Ticketmaster.

But You still do have to use them.  Come on anti-trust busters..work your mojo on these people.
 

beachbum13 wrote:

 TICKETMASTER SUCKS! Yesterday I tried to get back up tickets for Harrisburgh. I have an account with Ticketmaster for "quicker service". Hahaha. I noticed that I had a credit card other than the one I wanted to use. No biggie I figure because I'm pretty sure I already have tickets for the show... So yesterday I went into "My Account" and changed my cc info. This morning I log on and check "My Account" to make sure all the changes that I made are there. I want good seats (who I'm I kidding I want great seats!) and I'm not taking any chances... 10:01 I get through... looks like I'll get good seats! But my old CC info is up?!?!?I go to modify account. "WE have no account under that email". I have an email to that address with my password on it! I just modified and checked my account with that email????? I go back and try and find a way to bypass the quick checkout..... Not happening.  "Five minutes - The time you have to complete transaction is up.......... 15 minutes later I get through and manually put my account info in and get my ticket 8-9 rows back from my original seats. Your options... Don't use Ticketmaster and don't go...... This is the third time something like this has happened. But they want people to use the Internet to book tickets?
--------------94DC531D434A0D905AB94B50-- >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sat Dec 9 12:34:46 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f152.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.152]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA07511 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:34:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:34:15 -0800 Received: from 24.237.123.74 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 09 Dec 2000 18:34:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.123.74] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Acoustic Vaudeville CD out in Spring! Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 09:34:15 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2000 18:34:15.0330 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1FF4820:01C0620E] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN All right Kids, Follow the link and read the bottom part about the new tour about which we are already aware and Hausman speaks to CDNow about the new live CD and a DVD!!! Yippee! _______________________________________________________ NEWS BITES: MICHAEL JACKSON, SILVERCHAIR, AIMEE MANN, MICHAEL PENN Michael Jackson plays N.Y.? Silverchair signs to Atlantic. Aimee Mann and Michael Penn plan tour. FULL STORY: http://p04.com/t.d?ckWVXsc-=/cdnow.com/allstararticle/fid=239296 Also, I found another humorous grammar blurb. Again, just for a little levity, not to open the discussions again. An English professor wrote the words, "Woman without her man is nothing" on the blackboard and directed his students to punctuate it correctly. The men wrote: "Woman, without her man, is nothing." The women wrote: "Woman! Without her, man is nothing." {I thought it was particularly cute, because a simple *type* of adding an exrtra "n" to man, and you have yet ANOTHER meaning.) Sadly, I am standing on tundra right now, so I could not make the Seattle show, but I will harass Nadja and Dave (Listers who give the word LURKING a whole new meaning--as in they check there emails once a month!!) telephonically to post something about the show for our enjoyment. And in the category of knowing too much information about a celebrity, Aimee was sick right before the House of Blues show. It must not have translated into her performance, but we won't know until we hear from Sean Rey who is UNDERSTANDABLY in mourning after a SECOND defeat in a mere eight days by my Seeeeeeeeeattle Suuuuuupersonics! I am sure he will post as soon as the pain of that loss coupled with the whole Lennon thing (which I don't get, but I imagine it was like I felt when Chris O'Donnell got married) is preventing him from posting. Heal thyself Sean! Paul np Neil Finn (Sheryl Crow opened for him 30 mins ago) _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sat Dec 9 12:51:33 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f184.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.184]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA09155 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:51:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:51:01 -0800 Received: from 24.237.123.74 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 09 Dec 2000 18:51:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.123.74] From: "Paul Barras" To: sproude@earthlink.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Ticketmaster Sucks!!! Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 09:51:01 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2000 18:51:01.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA022FE0:01C06210] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Oh Sandra, you speak gospel! You're an attorney!! Do something! Can't you file a class action lawsuit on behalf of Barras, Warren, Mann et al?!!! Please?!! Pro bono in your spare time, of course. Oh, and I was a little eager typipng SPRING in the subject line of my last post. It said NEXT YEAR. I am thinking the first half though. I will be asking all of these question to Hausman as soon as he is back from the West Coast. >From: SMP > > >But You still do have to use them. Come on anti-trust busters..work >your mojo on these people. > > >beachbum13 wrote: > > > TICKETMASTER SUCKS! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From gkomoto@jps.net Sat Dec 9 14:13:28 2000 Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA14574 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 14:13:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from jps.net ([63.204.73.56]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G5B00DB2HCDIU@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:09:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 12:13:07 -0800 From: Greg Komoto Subject: Some Aimee news not yet highlighted (links) Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: gkomoto@jps.net Message-id: <3A329253.1AF8292@jps.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <5e.473c376.27631712@aol.com> Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Here's a few random things I've collected... John Beck Interviews Aimee Mann in the Santa Rosa Press Democrat http://216.167.95.20/goingout/column/beck/index.html He's clearly a converted fan and trys to ask her some new questions... particularly interesting tidbit on how Interscope began "toying with upbeat drum tracks" before they parted ways. There is a brief quote from Aimee in USA Today, (there may be pic montage in the print edition) on their article on singer-songwriters. Its toward the end of the article. http://www.usatoday.com/life/lphoto.htm Not only is Aimee pictured in the Month-by-Month review, Bachelor No. 2 is named one of the top 50 albums of the year (but not in the Top 10, which is headed by a special favorite of Paul's) Spin.com is beginning to reveal the choices in the print edition of the magazine for Album of the Year. But, it is also publishing their staff picks. "Magnolia OST" is named a personal No.1 by none other than the Editor in Chief, Alan Light. http://www.spin.com/2000top20/staffpicks/ Sorry if there are repeats here... >From johnm@interworld.net Sat Dec 9 14:39:00 2000 Received: from interworld.net (mail.interworld.net [206.124.240.102]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA15687 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 14:39:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from [208.10.116.141] (208.10.116.141) by interworld.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0.2) for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:38:50 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnm@mail.interworld.net Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:38:54 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: john Subject: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee more popular! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: johnm@interworld.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I would like to point out that while Aimee having a huge following and massive recognition/popularity may seem like a good idea, consider this. Where would you rather see a world-class act? I mean world class - like the Beatles or Nirvana or ...Aimee Mann? (as respects my first two choices, I obviously mean before the genius in the band had left us...) So where? In a huge auditorium or in an intimate club? As they are a world class act, if you want to see them in an intimate club, you'd better know someone or be willing to pay a ransom to see them. And even in a big stadium, good seats can set you back. Next question. Would it be more cool if only you and a *relatively* small group realized the act was world class? I mean you could approach them after a show and get an autograph or a photo taken with them. No bodyguards, no hassles. Just like they were your personal friend. Well, we can see one of the coolest and greatest world class acts in small venues and even get personal contact. Why do you want to change this? Stop with the posters, etc, already! We've got one of the best things going in the history of rock by being able to get to see/hear and even know Aimee in intimate settings. Please *leave it as it is!* Shhh!!! Keep it to yourself and your friends!! >From paulkolber@bigplanet.com Sat Dec 9 15:18:06 2000 Received: from out1.bigplanet.com (out1.bigplanet.com [216.169.202.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA17455 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:18:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from paulkolberbigplanet (ts011d36.phe-pa.concentric.net [208.37.106.48]) by out1.bigplanet.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTPA id <0G5B00331JHPRK@out1.bigplanet.com> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 13:56:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 15:59:28 -0500 From: Paul Kolber Subject: RE: OT: 20 years ago today (Springsteen/Lennon) To: Aimee Mann Digest Reply-to: paulkolber@bigplanet.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN On 12/8/80, my family and I had front row seats to see Bruce Springsteen at The Spectrum in Philadelphia. We also had backstage passes. Immediately after the show, on the way backstage, someone told us that John Lennon had just been shot. It had only happened within the hour. A backstage pass usually only gets you into the backstage hospitality room, but we had a friend from Columbia Records who was walking small groups into Bruce's dressing room. On this same night, Bruce had planned a surprise birthday party for his mother. Having heard about this, we gave Bruce a birthday card for his mother when we got into his dressing room. It was funny, because we said "No, this isn't for you, it's for your mother." He was quite touched. Although we knew John Lennon had been assassinated, we didn't mention it to Bruce. We had waited years for this moment and didn't want to spoil it. Bruce clearly had not heard the bad news yet (which explains why he didn't mention it during the show). I'm sure if I had been the one to tell Bruce that he would still remember me to this day, but this is not how I'd wish for him to remember me. I have a picture of myself and Bruce taken that night. Naturally, I'll never forget the date it was taken. Amongst the next group of people to enter Bruce's dressing room, someone told him that John Lennon had been shot. Bruce was so upset that he politely asked them to leave. He also cancelled his mother's birthday party. The following night (12/9/80), Bruce made this announcement at the start of the show: "I'd just just like to say one thing...I'd appreciate it...That it's a hard night to come out and play tonight, when so much has been lost to...to you. The first record...The first record that I ever learned was a record called Twist and Shout. It was a Beatles record. And if it wasn't...if it wasn't for John Lennon, we'd all be someplace very different tonight. And it's...It's an unreasonable world, and you get asked to live with alot of things that are just unlivable. And...it's a hard thing to come out and play but there's just nothing else you can do." He then pounded into "Born To Run." Upon hearing the first words of his announcement, we actually thought that he might cancel the show. The entire first set had a very somber mood to it. All of the songs seemed slower and more intense than usual. I think Bruce was aware of this, and perhaps he though he had let down his fans, because the second set was one of the most blistering performances I have ever seen. It was as if he was trying to compensate for the first set. Bruce normally ended shows on this tour with the Detroit Medley, but on this night he came back for one final encore, "Twist And Shout." Paul >From wstewart@landmarknet.net Sat Dec 9 15:59:06 2000 Received: from dravite.mint.net (dravite.mint.net [216.227.128.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA19001 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:59:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from landmarknet.net (northconway-ppp-34.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.39]) by dravite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16455 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:58:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3A32ABA6.90D97521@landmarknet.net> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 17:01:10 -0500 From: Bill Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Subject: aimee boston show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: wstewart@landmarknet.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Center Orch, row M! I'm not in the balcony this time! (Happy Dance) Bill >From ironman@connexus.net.au Sat Dec 9 16:42:26 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA21750 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:42:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (dialin-as12-37.Melbourne.interNex.net.au [203.34.171.102]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA42171 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:42:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) Message-ID: <3A32B5AE.CEC88CD@connexus.net.au> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:43:58 +1100 From: Tony Iremonger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee morepopular! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: ironman@connexus.net.au Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Well, gee John - Don't you think you're been just a little selfish. I guess you were the kind of kid who kept all their Christmas Candy hidden away and wouldn't share that either. Hey, you think you're so "cool" knowing about Aimee...I'll just settle for feeling "lucky" that I happened to hear her music in the first place. Your elitist attitude really sucks. Tony Iremonger Melbourne, Australia PS Yeah guess what, we even know about Aimee Mann on the other side of the planet. Wake up to yourself !! Aimee's record companies do a good enough job of supressing her music as it is. They don't need any help from insular little twats like you. john wrote: > I would like to point out that while Aimee having a huge following > and massive recognition/popularity may seem like a good idea, > consider this. > > Would it be more cool if only you and a *relatively* > small group realized the act was world class? I mean you could > approach them after a show and get an autograph or a photo taken with > them. No bodyguards, no hassles. Just like they were your personal > friend. > > Shhh!!! Keep it to yourself and your friends!! >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sat Dec 9 16:59:42 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA23135 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:59:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eB9MxUi03548 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 14:59:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A32B950.9090904@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 14:59:28 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001209 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee more popular! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN john wrote: > I would like to point out that while Aimee having a huge following and > massive recognition/popularity may seem like a good idea, consider this. > > Where would you rather see a world-class act? I mean world class - like > the Beatles or Nirvana or ...Aimee Mann? (as respects my first two > choices, I obviously mean before the genius in the band had left us...) > So where? In a huge auditorium or in an intimate club? > > As they are a world class act, if you want to see them in an intimate > club, you'd better know someone or be willing to pay a ransom to see > them. And even in a big stadium, good seats can set you back. > > Next question. Would it be more cool if only you and a *relatively* > small group realized the act was world class? I mean you could approach > them after a show and get an autograph or a photo taken with them. No > bodyguards, no hassles. Just like they were your personal friend. > > Well, we can see one of the coolest and greatest world class acts in > small venues and even get personal contact. Why do you want to change > this? > > Stop with the posters, etc, already! We've got one of the best things > going in the history of rock by being able to get to see/hear and even > know Aimee in intimate settings. Please *leave it as it is!* > > Shhh!!! Keep it to yourself and your friends!! Personally, I'm more worried that increased popularity and fame can sometimes spoil an artist. But Aimee isn't that big considering her fan base, there's much more room to grow. I think it's rather selfish. I would like to go to a concert and get good seats at an affordable price, but I don't go to concerts for myself, I'm going there to see the artist(s) perform and enjoy the music with everyone else. It's great that artists such as Aimee are so accessible by her fans, but I do not think it's not just because her fan base isn't monstorous, but because some of us on this list show our appreciation by promoting her work by distributing flyers and posters. Buying CDs and going to concerts is just like any fan would do, but going the extra few feet to promote her work on her behalf shows her how much we really appreciate her. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From ironman@connexus.net.au Sat Dec 9 18:15:58 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA27967 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 18:15:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (dialin-as12-37.Melbourne.interNex.net.au [203.34.171.102]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA46935; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:15:50 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) Message-ID: <3A32CB96.707E02DA@connexus.net.au> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:17:26 +1100 From: Tony Iremonger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jill Weisenfeld , mannlist Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee morepopular! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: ironman@connexus.net.au Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Jill, Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Back in 1963 there were a whole bunch of regulars at a dingy little basement club called the Cavern who were very upset when the rest of England found out about "their boys". I doubt John would be enjoying his cosy relationship with Aimee Mann now if the Beatles had never made it to JFK just because a bunch of "cool" fans wanted to keep the group as a secret to themselves. Tony Jill Weisenfeld wrote: > I kinda took John's e-mail as being a bit tongue in cheek...not very > serious. Though there is no way to know. > Jill > > >From: Tony Iremonger > >Reply-To: ironman@connexus.net.au > >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > >Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee > >morepopular! > >Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:43:58 +1100 > > > >Well, gee John - Don't you think you're been just a little selfish. I > >guess you were the kind of kid who kept all their Christmas Candy hidden > >away and wouldn't share that either. Hey, you think you're so "cool" > >knowing about Aimee...I'll just settle for feeling "lucky" that I happened > > > >to hear her music in the first place. Your elitist attitude really sucks. > > > >Tony Iremonger > >Melbourne, Australia > > > >PS Yeah guess what, we even know about Aimee Mann on the other side of > >the planet. Wake up to yourself !! Aimee's record companies do a good > >enough job of supressing her music as it is. They don't need any help > >from insular little twats like you. > > > >john wrote: > > > > > I would like to point out that while Aimee having a huge following > > > and massive recognition/popularity may seem like a good idea, > > > consider this. > > > > > > Would it be more cool if only you and a *relatively* > > > small group realized the act was world class? I mean you could > > > approach them after a show and get an autograph or a photo taken with > > > them. No bodyguards, no hassles. Just like they were your personal > > > friend. > > > > > > Shhh!!! Keep it to yourself and your friends!! > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sat Dec 9 19:10:30 2000 Received: from imo-r13.mail.aol.com (imo-r13.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA05750 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 19:10:29 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id x.82.4058645 (4353); Sat, 9 Dec 2000 20:09:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <82.4058645.276431c0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 20:09:20 EST Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee morepopular! To: ironman@connexus.net.au, jillpw@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-09 19:16:39 EST, ironman@connexus.net.au writes: > ill, > Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Back in 1963 there were a whole bunch of > regulars at a > dingy little basement club called the Cavern who were very upset when the > rest of England > found out about "their boys". I doubt John would be enjoying his cosy > relationship with > Aimee Mann now if the Beatles had never made it to JFK just because a bunch > of "cool" > fans wanted to keep the group as a secret to themselves. > Tony I was annoyed by it, but yeah maybe it is a joke too. I went to Liverpool a couple of years ago. Our guide for the city was a woman who had seen the Beatles at the Cavern club, was part of a group that would go to every show they did there. She and the rest of her group was flabbergasted when the Beatles exploded. But she was glad about that. And she knew then how lucky she was too. Andrea >From ironman@connexus.net.au Sat Dec 9 20:19:21 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA08022 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 20:19:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (dialin-as12-46.Melbourne.interNex.net.au [203.34.171.111]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA54284 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:19:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) Message-ID: <3A32E884.8DD942A5@connexus.net.au> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:20:52 +1100 From: Tony Iremonger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist Subject: Spreading the Word! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: ironman@connexus.net.au Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Now that the hot summer weather is upon us once again I've decided its time to take up running and cycling to try and lose that middle-aged beer belly thing. So there I am doing a cross-country run puffing and panting like never before in my life and I start wistfully thinking back five years ago to when I last went to Nepal and how fit I was then and that reminded me of an Aimee Mann connection.... So, in 1995 I went trekking for a month in Nepal and took with me a bunch of cassette tapes to while away flights, bus trips and those long freezing nights in tents. One of the cassettes had "Whatever" and the just newly released "I'm With Stupid" on it, another had the first two Oasis albums, and the rest I don't remember. Anyway, I was in a group and there was this one guy from Switzerland whose name might have been Marcel. Now this trek was supposed to take in a fairly high pass but some late snow caused some problems so we had to vary the itinerary a bit and satisfy ourselves with a side trip up to a high ridge where we could at least see the pass and planned route. I forget the exact height but it was getting up well over 6000m so it was quite demanding. So then what happened was that Marcel was getting headaches from the Altitude and decided that he should stay down in camp rather than climb up to the ridge. He looked pretty bored so I gave him my walkman and tapes to listen to. That evening when we returned to camp he came over to me and thanked me for the loan. And then said (imagine the French-Swiss accent): "On one of those cassettes there is a woman. She has such a beautiful voice, such beautiful ballads. Ooo is she? Is she an Australian singer?" Well I knew it wasn't Liam Gallagher! So I explained about Til Tuesday and Aimee Mann and her prolific recording output and how "I'm With Stupid" had just come out a couple of weeks earlier. Marcel kept waxing on about how much he had enjoyed her songs and how good she was and how he doubted he would be able to buy any of those CDs in Sitzerland. And I took the hint. The cause of promoting Aimee Mann to the world took precedence over my personal musical requirements for the next couple of weeks. I gave Marcel the tapes. (I wonder if he still plays them?). Tony (With apologies to John for not keeping the secret) >From johnm@interworld.net Sat Dec 9 22:20:25 2000 Received: from interworld.net (mail.interworld.net [206.124.240.102]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA14659; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 22:20:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from [208.10.116.140] (208.10.116.140) by interworld.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0.2); Sat, 9 Dec 2000 20:20:13 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnm@mail.interworld.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A32CB96.707E02DA@connexus.net.au> References: <3A32CB96.707E02DA@connexus.net.au> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 23:20:17 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: john Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee more popular! Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: johnm@interworld.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was going to see how others responded before posting again, but before anyone gets too bent out of shape... Hey, I'm not a personal friend of Aimee's...jeeze I only wise I were. No, I'm someone who found out about her because she became as famous as she did in Till Tuesday and played backup to Tom Petty. Then I saw her play unplugged with Squeeze in a small theatre. Those momoents were magic. *Relatively* was in asterisks, because when I said our *relatively* small group - I was including the editors of Spin and Rolling Stone, Conan O'Brien, Jay Lenno and all the people who read or watch them as well as all of Aimee's other famous (and not-so-famous) supporters, promoters and fans - a number which is growing daily. No need to try to "keep the secret" - it's already out. Poetic and musical genius like Aimee's cannot be supressed from being recognized *ultimately*. The question is *when*? Some of the world's most famous artists were ridiculed when alive - their genius only being recognized post-mortem. Not that we are anywhere close to that here. If anything she is pushing the envelope for not already having gotten the total recognition for the genius she is. It is only a matter of time. So why rush it? Enjoy the moment. When the day comes that it isn't as intimate as it once was, you will remember these times and smile. After all, you were part of it. As for me, I'm not in any hurry for it to end - even though I know it is inevitable. That's all I was saying...though maybe a bit less clearly... >Jill, >Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Back in 1963 there were a whole >bunch of regulars at a >dingy little basement club called the Cavern who were very upset >when the rest of England >found out about "their boys". I doubt John would be enjoying his >cosy relationship with >Aimee Mann now if the Beatles had never made it to JFK just because >a bunch of "cool" >fans wanted to keep the group as a secret to themselves. >Tony > > >Jill Weisenfeld wrote: > >> I kinda took John's e-mail as being a bit tongue in cheek...not very >> serious. Though there is no way to know. >> Jill >> >> >From: Tony Iremonger >> >Reply-To: ironman@connexus.net.au >> >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >> >Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee >> >morepopular! >> >Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:43:58 +1100 >> > >> >Well, gee John - Don't you think you're been just a little selfish. I >> >guess you were the kind of kid who kept all their Christmas Candy hidden >> >away and wouldn't share that either. Hey, you think you're so "cool" >> >knowing about Aimee...I'll just settle for feeling "lucky" that I happened >> > >> >to hear her music in the first place. Your elitist attitude really sucks. >> > >> >Tony Iremonger >> >Melbourne, Australia >> > >> >PS Yeah guess what, we even know about Aimee Mann on the other side of >> >the planet. Wake up to yourself !! Aimee's record companies do a good >> >enough job of supressing her music as it is. They don't need any help >> >from insular little twats like you. >> > >> >john wrote: >> > >> > > I would like to point out that while Aimee having a huge following >> > > and massive recognition/popularity may seem like a good idea, >> > > consider this. >> > > >> > > Would it be more cool if only you and a *relatively* >> > > small group realized the act was world class? I mean you could >> > > approach them after a show and get an autograph or a photo taken with >> > > them. No bodyguards, no hassles. Just like they were your personal >> > > friend. >> > > >> > > Shhh!!! Keep it to yourself and your friends!! >> > >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________________________________ >> Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Sat Dec 9 22:21:29 2000 Received: from web10806.mail.yahoo.com (web10806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.248]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id WAA14696 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 22:21:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001210042057.54168.qmail@web10806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.247.198.121] by web10806.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 09 Dec 2000 20:20:57 PST Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 20:20:57 -0800 (PST) From: Mann Fann Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee morepopular! To: ironman@connexus.net.au, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Geez Tony, I don't think the guy deserves such a personal flaming. Whether you think it's selfish or not, it's just the man's opinion and he has a right to express it. What you wrote is nothing but a petty retort aimed at making YOURSELF sound "cool". You want Aimee to be more popular, and John doesn't. End of story, big friggin' deal, he was just sharing his thoughts. And unless you were one of the kids he kept his Christmas candy from, you should really AVOID cluttering up the list with inconclusive, nonsensical personal attacks like that. This is NOT the place. Fann --- Tony Iremonger wrote: > Well, gee John - Don't you think you're been just a > little selfish. I > guess you were the kind of kid who kept all their > Christmas Candy hidden > away and wouldn't share that either. Hey, you think > you're so "cool" > knowing about Aimee...I'll just settle for feeling > "lucky" that I happened > > to hear her music in the first place. Your elitist > attitude really sucks. > > Tony Iremonger > Melbourne, Australia > > PS Yeah guess what, we even know about Aimee Mann > on the other side of > the planet. Wake up to yourself !! Aimee's record > companies do a good > enough job of supressing her music as it is. They > don't need any help > from insular little twats like you. > > john wrote: > > > I would like to point out that while Aimee having > a huge following > > and massive recognition/popularity may seem like a > good idea, > > consider this. > > > > Would it be more cool if only you and a > *relatively* > > small group realized the act was world class? I > mean you could > > approach them after a show and get an autograph or > a photo taken with > > them. No bodyguards, no hassles. Just like they > were your personal > > friend. > > > > Shhh!!! Keep it to yourself and your friends!! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >From Craigmacneil@aol.com Sun Dec 10 00:59:58 2000 Received: from imo-r13.mail.aol.com (imo-r13.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA22792 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:59:58 -0600 (CST) From: Craigmacneil@aol.com Received: from Craigmacneil@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.f.cf9b196 (3852) for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:59:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:59:22 EST Subject: spare ticket for boston show To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f.cf9b196.276483ca_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: Craigmacneil@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_f.cf9b196.276483ca_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all1 i accidentally purchased an extra single ticket in the orchestra section, row R. any takers? face value desired. thanks,craig --part1_f.cf9b196.276483ca_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all1
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thanks,craig --part1_f.cf9b196.276483ca_boundary-- >From ironman@connexus.net.au Sun Dec 10 03:51:00 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id DAA25665 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 03:50:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (dialin-as1-94.Melbourne.interNex.net.au [203.34.170.94]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA80048; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:50:53 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) Message-ID: <3A33525D.7404AE5@connexus.net.au> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:52:29 +1100 From: Tony Iremonger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mann Fann , mannlist Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee morepopular! References: <20001210042057.54168.qmail@web10806.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: ironman@connexus.net.au Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Mann Fann wrote: > Geez Tony, I don't think the guy deserves such a > personal flaming. Whether you think it's selfish or > not, it's just the man's opinion and he has a right to > express it. What you wrote is nothing but a petty > retort aimed at making YOURSELF sound "cool". Well I am sorry if you are offended by a little Aussie bluntness. But down here we call a toilet a dunny not a bathroom and go to it to take a piss not powder our noses. At least put my name to my posting and don't rely on a cute handle to snipe from behind. And at my age I don't really give a rats arse about sounding "cool" - I knew that my posting was coming down hard. I wanted to make a point and I wanted it to be blunt. > You want > Aimee to be more popular, and John doesn't. End of > story, big friggin' deal, he was just sharing his > thoughts. Sorry but I still think it is a selfish and narrow attitude. > And unless you were one of the kids he kept > his Christmas candy from Ahh, so you know about that. And I was just trying to come up with some sort of allegory. Amazing > , you should really AVOID > cluttering up the list with inconclusive, nonsensical > personal attacks like that. Better to clutter the list with endless lists of "songs I would like Aimee to play live" , or "my favourite line from an Aimee song is.." perhaps. Inconclusive, nonsensical - are you being obtuse - the conclusion is that a elitist group of fans trying to keep Aimee's music a secret is akin to her record companies not letting get released in the first place. > This is NOT the place. Sorry, I thought this was a discussion group where people could voice dissenting opinions, debate and , forgive me, even poke some fun. > > Fann Who with-holds their real name. Regards A less-than-Sugar Coated Tony Iremonger Melbourne, Australia An Aimee Mann Concert Free Zone due to the fact that no one's fucking heard of her. >From diri.gini@virgin.net Sun Dec 10 07:14:58 2000 Received: from mta8-svc.virgin.net (mta8-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.48]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA12923 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:14:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.68.57]) by mta8-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001210131455.DYWF272.mta8-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:14:55 +0000 Message-ID: <003f01c062aa$abdb1d00$3944fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: <3A32CB96.707E02DA@connexus.net.au> Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimeemore popular! Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:20:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > I was going to see how others responded before posting again, but > before anyone gets too bent out of shape... It's a shame John you didn't wait a few more hours and allow people outside the USA to make their reply. For what it's worth, I think you were being selfish, but I don't blame you at all and you may well get your way. Of course if you did get your way, all the non - USA Mannlisters would miss out. As it is, we in the UK only got one show, which made it impossible for any fan living any distance from London to see Aimee at all. I've been lucky, I saw Aimee for both I'm With Stupid shows she played in London and Acoustic Vaudeville; so that makes 2 1/2 times in all. Given that Michael Penn has shown no previous or subsequent interest outside the USA, would it really have been so much effort for him to take a step back and allow us Mann fans to hear the person we went to see? I'm not saying that Michael was bad, I was quite impressed and had adequate stock been available, I'd have taken a copy of MP4 home. As it was, I had to work to appreciate his music, which I wouldn't mind - my web site shows that I don't mind working for nothing - but I had to pay as well. It was for me as if the warm-up act hadn't had the decency to leave the stage once his set was over. I enjoyed the show, but I left tired rather than elated. Make no mistake, I hope John doesn't get his way, but don't begrudge him his dreams and if you in the USA feel like complaining that Aimee isn't playing in your back yard, bare in mind that there are an awful lot of back yards in the world. For most people, a trip to the USA to see Aimee is simply out of the question. As for your response John: > Poetic and musical genius like Aimee's cannot be supressed from being > recognized *ultimately*.... > > It is only a matter of time. I'm less optimistic than you, John. Aimee has been pushed back almost to the starting point in her career; she simply shouldn't be working so hard to gain the level of support she has. Your point about previous genius being recognised post mortem doesn't recognise that things now are much more competitive than they were. Music is now churned out on an industrial scale and it would be quite possible for The Beatles, were they to make their first appearance now, to be swamped into obscurity. Besides, shouldn't Aimee get to enjoy the adulation while she can? I bet she could make a better fist of it than most. Thanks for reading, (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sun Dec 10 07:55:48 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA13368 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:55:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.66.68]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001210135515.KHPB20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:55:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00dd01c062b0$eacf6380$9b404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" References: <20001210042057.54168.qmail@web10806.mail.yahoo.com> <3A33525D.7404AE5@connexus.net.au> Subject: Re: PSA: Quit trying to make yourself more popular! Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:55:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C06287.0140B9E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C06287.0140B9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was not going to get involved in this but I guess it's too late now. = Aimee and her popularity is a double edged sword. While almost all of = want Aimee to win this award and that award and to sell a gazillion = albums. We also enjoy the fact that we think we know something a lot of = mainstream music fans don't. We also enjoy getting good seats to shows = at small venues for fair prices. My gripe is attacking the people on this list who have dedicated = themselves to promoting Aimee. They do what they do because they believe = in it. I should also point out that a high percentage of the inside = stuff, heads up for shows and tour information comes from these people. >>Better to clutter the list with ....<<< The only thing I consider clutter on this list is when people insult = other people for their views. >>At least put my name to my posting and don't rely on a cute handle to snipe from behind.<< Yippee for you! And this matters, why?=20 Anyone on the list that takes the time to get to know somebody else = quickly learns there real name. In many cases "cute handles" do more to = convey ones personality than their names. (which could be fake anyway) BEACHBUM13 (and proud of it) "Another chapter in a book where the chapters are endless and they're = always=20 the same." 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I was not going to get involved in this but I guess it's too late = now.=20 Aimee and her popularity is a double edged sword. While almost all = of want=20 Aimee to win this award and that award and to sell a gazillion albums. = We also=20 enjoy the fact that we think we know something a lot of mainstream music = fans=20 don't. We also enjoy getting good seats to shows at small venues for = fair=20 prices.
 
My gripe is attacking the people on this list who have dedicated = themselves=20 to promoting Aimee. They do what they do because they believe in it. I = should=20 also point out that a high percentage of the inside stuff, heads up for = shows=20 and tour information comes from these people.
 
>>Better to clutter the list with ....<<<
The only thing I consider clutter on this list is when people = insult other=20 people for their views.
 
>>At least put my name to my posting and don't
rely on a = cute=20 handle to snipe from behind.<<
 
Yippee for you! And this matters, why?
 
Anyone on the list that takes the time to get to know somebody else = quickly=20 learns there real name. In many cases "cute handles" do more to convey = ones=20 personality than their names. (which could be fake anyway)
 
 
BEACHBUM13 (and proud of it)
 
"Another chapter in a book where the chapters are endless and = they're=20 always
the same."
 
Aimee Mann
------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C06287.0140B9E0-- >From AuntRoddi@aol.com Sun Dec 10 08:36:19 2000 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA14570 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:36:17 -0600 (CST) From: AuntRoddi@aol.com Received: from AuntRoddi@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.33.) id g.48.e83f431 (4584) for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:35:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <48.e83f431.2764eec0@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:35:44 EST Subject: Can't We All Just Get Along?! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: AuntRoddi@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Mannlisters, as a group (and I'm generalizing, I know), come across as an angry and defensive bunch. Why? Rosalie >From johnm@interworld.net Sun Dec 10 08:43:47 2000 Received: from interworld.net (mail.interworld.net [206.124.240.102]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA14846 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:43:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from [208.10.116.140] (208.10.116.140) by interworld.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0.2); Sun, 10 Dec 2000 06:43:36 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnm@mail.interworld.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003f01c062aa$abdb1d00$3944fc3e@oemcomputer> References: <3A32CB96.707E02DA@connexus.net.a u> <003f01c062aa$abdb1d00$3944fc3e@oemcomputer> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:43:40 -0500 To: diri.gini@virgin.net From: john Subject: Re: PSI: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee more popular! Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: johnm@interworld.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ian wrote: >It's a shame John you didn't wait a few more hours and allow people outside >the USA to make their reply. > >For what it's worth, I think you were being selfish, but I don't blame you >at all and you may well get your way. > >Of course if you did get your way, all the non - USA Mannlisters would miss >out. As it is, we in the UK only got one show, which made it impossible for >any fan living any distance from London to see Aimee at all. I'm not against Aimee playing in England - or Australia - or anywhere for that matter. Hopefully a requirement of that is not huge and raging popularity. >As for your response John: > >> Poetic and musical genius like Aimee's cannot be supressed from being >> recognized *ultimately*.... >> >> It is only a matter of time. >I'm less optimistic than you, John. Aimee has been pushed back almost to the >starting point in her career; she simply shouldn't be working so hard to >gain the level of support she has. Man, I couldn't disagree with you more here. Aimee is *way* further along. Her fans and supporters include Rolling Stone's Jan Werner, Jay Leno, Conan, Spin magazine, Elvis Costello and a host of cool musicians. So what that Britney Spears has the big stadium gigs and mega tours? Ask Jan or Elvis what they think of Britney. I would also point to Magnolia, an Oscar nomination, and most importantly, the quality of her work. Aimee continues to put out great song after great song. You can't push that down. Screw Interscope. They couldn't push her down - she left! She doesn't need that machine becasue she is *real*. As far as working so hard to gain the level of support...I don't know that writing songs/putting out cds/touring small venues is more work than writing songs/putting out cds/touring huge stadiums (with the world expecting every new cd and song to be great.) Based on the number and quality of CDs, it appears to be Aimee's nature to work her butt off, so I'm certainly not saying she's not - but I'm not sure she's working harder now than she would be if she were playing huge stadiums. >Your point about previous genius being recognised post mortem doesn't >recognise that things now are much more competitive than they were. >Music is now churned out on an industrial scale and it would be quite >possible for The Beatles, were they to make their first appearance now, to >be swamped into obscurity. Genius is genius. It doesn't matter how much competition there is. The Beatles music stands today not because it was hugely popular in the 1960's, but because it is great music. Aimee is a genius. She is a poet and a musician like the world rarely gets to see. Her songs will not be better if she is hugely popular. >Besides, shouldn't Aimee get to enjoy the adulation while she can? I bet she >could make a better fist of it than most. Coolness does not equal popularity. I could care less what Bach or Shakespeare or Monet's contemporaries thought of them, much less the general public. Their contributions to the world were not negated by their popularity - or lack thereof. Aimee's contributions stand. My point: We are lucky to be able to see her in such intimate surroundings. John >From johnm@interworld.net Sun Dec 10 09:02:45 2000 Received: from interworld.net (mail.interworld.net [206.124.240.102]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id JAA15044 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:02:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from [208.10.116.140] (208.10.116.140) by interworld.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0.2) for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:02:36 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnm@mail.interworld.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00dd01c062b0$eacf6380$9b404f0c@hfpyz> References: <20001210042057.54168.qmail@web10806.mail.yahoo.com> <3A33525D.7404AE5@connexus.net.au> <00dd01c062b0$eacf6380$9b404f0c@hfpyz> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:02:40 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: john Subject: Re: PSA: Quit trying to make yourself more popular! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: johnm@interworld.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > >I was not going to get involved in this but I guess it's too late >now. Aimee and her popularity is a double edged sword. While almost >all of want Aimee to win this award and that award and to sell a >gazillion albums. We also enjoy the fact that we think we know >something a lot of mainstream music fans don't. We also enjoy >getting good seats to shows at small venues for fair prices. > >My gripe is attacking the people on this list who have dedicated >themselves to promoting Aimee. They do what they do because they >believe in it. I should also point out that a high percentage of the >inside stuff, heads up for shows and tour information comes from >these people. Thanks for pointing that out. By using a subject of "Public Service Announcement" and other clues, the piece (while my honest opinion) was meant to be tongue in cheek. (as Jill pointed out.) Certainly I applaud the efforts of the people who put up posters and work to make Aimee more popular. If I offended anyone who has worked toward making Aimee more famous, please accept my apology. >From info@paulmelancon.com Sun Dec 10 09:32:07 2000 Received: from goliath2.primary-server.net (goliath2.primary-server.net [216.71.84.13]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id JAA15577 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:32:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from cc807453a (cc807453-a.chmbl1.ga.home.com [24.4.119.78]) by goliath2.primary-server.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA25217 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:32:21 -0600 From: "Paul Melancon" To: Subject: RE: Can't We All Just Get Along?! Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <48.e83f431.2764eec0@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: info@paulmelancon.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Oh no! Everyone's attacking Paul B. for his jokingly sexist (and OT) comments! Oh, no, wait, it's not that, everyone's attacking everyone else over grammar issues! Oops, no, wrong again, everyone's mad because of one person's comment and another person's response! Don't worry, Rosalie, I know it seems that way sometimes (and certainly seems to be right for some), but this sort of thing happens every couple of months. I find the best thing to do is to delete any related headers until they all work it out of their system. Maybe, along with "OT" we should add another header warning: "PO" for "pissed off"... It would make ignoring these things a lot easier. Paul Melancon http://www.paulmelancon.com http://www.mp3.com/paulmelancon the new CD Slumberland from M Records, in stores and at online retailers NOW -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of AuntRoddi@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 9:36 AM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Can't We All Just Get Along?! Mannlisters, as a group (and I'm generalizing, I know), come across as an angry and defensive bunch. Why? Rosalie >From kgf@mediaone.net Sun Dec 10 09:52:08 2000 Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id JAA15826 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:52:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from tina2.ne.mediaone.net (h000094989a04.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.31.8]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA04386 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:52:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00f301c062c0$7ffcf120$081f8018@tina2.ne.mediaone.net> From: "Kristina Forsyth" To: "Mannlist" Subject: Re: Ticketmaster Sucks!!! Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:47:28 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Reply-To: kgf@mediaone.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I had similar experiences yesterday attempting to get ticket for Boston. Ended up calling a live person. Got seats 5 rows back of the ones I lost on the Internet. I timed out 3 times. I attempted to send a message to their support service via the form on their site, and it wouldn't send the message because of an invalid email address. (I ended up trying every email address I had, hoping one would work.) I finally got their service email address and sent a message directly - and to the webmaster. I'm also seriously considering writing directly to the president of Ticketmaster - as soon as I get a name. T -----Original Message----- From: beachbum13 To: Mannlist Date: Saturday, December 09, 2000 12:28 PM Subject: Ticketmaster Sucks!!! TICKETMASTER SUCKS! Yesterday I tried to get back up tickets for Harrisburgh. I have an account with Ticketmaster for "quicker service". Hahaha. I noticed that I had a credit card other than the one I wanted to use. No biggie I figure because I'm pretty sure I already have tickets for the show... So yesterday I went into "My Account" and changed my cc info. This morning I log on and check "My Account" to make sure all the changes that I made are there. I want good seats (who I'm I kidding I want great seats!) and I'm not taking any chances... 10:01 I get through... looks like I'll get good seats! But my old CC info is up?!?!? I go to modify account. "WE have no account under that email". I have an email to that address with my password on it! I just modified and checked my account with that email????? I go back and try and find a way to bypass the quick checkout..... Not happening. "Five minutes - The time you have to complete transaction is up.......... 15 minutes later I get through and manually put my account info in and get my ticket 8-9 rows back from my original seats. Your options... Don't use Ticketmaster and don't go...... This is the third time something like this has happened. But they want people to use the Internet to book tickets? >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sun Dec 10 10:44:33 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f74.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.74]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA17148 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:44:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:43:25 -0800 Received: from 24.237.129.170 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:43:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.129.170] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: it's an honest question; we've all wondered Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:43:25 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2000 16:43:25.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[50FD4250:01C062C8] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN If Jill and I weren't offended by the comments, John then I think your apology (while unecessary to make) should be accepted. We have new people coming all the time, so a little history here: this is something that this list has openly pondered on a number of occasions. You know, do we want Aimee to be more famous vs. our selfish desires to see her in intimate settings. For the most part, it's out of our hands, and it's only meant to stimulate discussion. No one has ever *seriously* advocated suppressing Aimee's music. I agree TOTALLY with Beachbum!! The only thing I find intolerable is intolerance. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but we don't have to be brutal and attack. I like that old, "make love, not war" cliche. You game, Shar?! That said, I completely understand Tony's frustration. I have to go to great lengths to fly and see Aimee, usually while better known bands, NO DOUBT, for instance, are flown into Anchorage right to my doorstep, practically. I don't think Aimee will ever achieve the success that would involve worldwride tours; not because of anything we may or may not do to suppress word of her music, but because she doesn't want that level of success. She doesn't even like to tour--period. That 14 hour flight to Australia isn't attractive to her at all. What I wish for Aimee is happiness. I wish her the exact level of success that she desires. I'd see her in any venue, but I'll be candid by saying I much prefer the smaller more intimate settings. Tony, we really need to talk. I saw VERTICAL LIMIT last nite, and your mountain climbing story fascinates me. What possesses people to do crazy stuff like that? I'd say it's the thin air, but they usually make the decision to imperil their lives at normal altitudes. The Sonichawk (not too proud of it last nite) P.S. Why did I go to the movies to watch people do stupid, inept, self-destructive things at high altitudes and vertical limits or the eve of Seahawks at Mile High Stadium?!! There's probably a script to the sequel in the box score and stats. >From: john > >Certainly I applaud the efforts of the people who put up posters and >work to make Aimee more popular. If I offended anyone who has worked >toward making Aimee more famous, please accept my apology. > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sun Dec 10 10:46:00 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f166.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.166]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA17195 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:46:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:45:11 -0800 Received: from 63.25.157.79 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:45:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.25.157.79] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: johnm@interworld.net Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: PSA: Quit trying to make yourself more popular! Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:45:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2000 16:45:11.0327 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FE16AF0:01C062C8] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN John said: >Certainly I applaud the efforts of the people who put up posters and >work to make Aimee more popular. If I offended anyone who has worked >toward making Aimee more famous, please accept my apology. > Thanks, John. No offense was taken. This whole discussion has gotten a bit out of hand. As you may or may not know....and as Tony obviously didn't know, I am very much one of those people. Paul Barras and I coordinate the SuperEgo Records Street Team. I spend an average of 15 hours a week promoting Aimee's music and I obviously think her popularity/success is a good thing. My point to Tony was just that he was coming on a bit strong and I purposely wrote to him off list so as not to further blow this thing up. But he knows that now and we are OK. As a general point, I really wish that people would find a way to state their opinions without attacking someone else on this list. I also think it is wise to respond off list if you feel offended or want to respond to something of a personal nature. I hesitated before sending this to the whole list, but I don't want anyone to have the false impression that I am not in favor of Aimee's popularity. Take care, Jill _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From mvfisk@gj.net Sun Dec 10 10:52:36 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA17381 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:52:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.65.153] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A53926020100; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:54:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3A33B4C6.9A84095@gj.net> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:52:22 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: Dec. 8, 1980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN     Shar, you quoted one of my favorite Lennon lines:  "Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."  I was watching Monday night football that night, too.  I remember when Howard Cosell made that announcement that I became numb.  I had just purchased "Double Fantasy" a week or so before, and the murder was especially shocking because John had been out of music for five years and appeared to be starting over.  What wonderful songs did we lose when that creative fire was snuffed out?
    Yet John Lennon and those who have gone before us live on.  Aimee Mann has made no secret of her admiration and emulation of the Beatles.  You can hear it all around you.  The recent ABC special brought to light the many unexpected ways the Beatles have influenced our lives in ways we don't even realize.  And then there's the music.
    I am proud to be a fan of Aimee Mann, the Moody Blues, the Kingston Trio (RIP Dave Guard and Roger Gambill), and many others.  But I still have to say:  BEATLES FOREVER!!!!!

Michael

PS-It really gripes me when 'Til Tuesday is referred to as a "One-hit wonder."  Two wonderful songs, "Coming Up Close" and "What About Love" were also chart hits, though nowhere near as big as "Voices Carry.". >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sun Dec 10 10:59:41 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA17521 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:59:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.66.68]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001210165908.LOZQ20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:59:08 +0000 Message-ID: <010301c062ca$98fce400$9b404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" References: <48.e83f431.2764eec0@aol.com> Subject: Can't We All Just Get Along?! I'll tell you why!!!! Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:59:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0100_01C062A0.AF669940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C062A0.AF669940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll tell you why we can't get along. Because it's boring! What fun is = it if somebody posts something I disagree with and I can't jump all over = them. Degrade them, chew them out and make them wish they were never = born. I only wish there was someway I could go to their homes and really = show them MY POINT of view. Show them the Mannly way! Then they would = see and we would never have to listen to their stupid, ill advised = statements again. If somebody does not see things the way I do they = should not be allowed to makes posts that I have to read! Why should I = be forced to go through all the trouble of hitting the delete button = simply because somebody else is a moron! We're not angry we are misunderstood! Can't you see that! Are you blind! = How dare you accuse us of being defensive! I can't believe you could say = such a thing?! I'll bet your the type of person that never uses a turn = signal when you change lanes! Another thing I hate when your in a hurry = and the person in the left lane is driving 10 mph under the speed limit! = How about when you go to the store to buy some muchies and you want to = get home to see Aimee on Leno and the little old lady in front of is = positive she has the .97 in change! And those two litter bottles of = soda! Who designed them? Must have been an orthopedic doctor who = specializes in broken toes. Everytime you open the door the bottle falls = over and lands on you toes. And heaven forbid the last person didn't put = the cap on tight. You now have soda all over the kitchen and all you = wanted was a stickin sip in the first place, And unless your a cat and = want to lick it up of the floor you shit out of luck because it was = surely the last bottle! Spell check! Can't they ever figure out what = your trying to spell? Sure they know what you want to spell when your = off by one letter and just made a mistake but when you fucking clueless = how to spell a word they have no suggestions! Why does your foot smell = and your nose run? And Phil Collins! He's OK but cut me a fucking break = that song sucked. The Corrs everybody knows about them! Best kept = secret? Their fucking Dad owns Coors brewery! They probably bought the = votes! Speaking of votes! This stupid election has gone on way too = fucking long! There were so many law suits to write about on December = 7th I had to look on page three for any mention of Pearl Harbor! By the = time they finally figure out the voters intent, the voters are going to = be dead! Maybe even the two candidates as well! Flip a coin and get the = darn thing over with! They don't care about me why should I care about = them?! They're all crooks & perverts anyway. Speaking of crooks! Tell me = the refs in the NFL are not on the take! Sure they don't have bets on = the games! No-one could fuck up calls as bad as they do without have a = reason! A blind person would be right more of the time than they are. = And why should we all get along? Screw it! If they disagree kill'em all = and let God sort'em out. If it wasn't for guns and violence how would = postal workers express themselves. That's another thing how come I can = order B#2 from California and gets here the next day but my cable = company one town away does not get my payment for a week? And why does = it take a bank three days to post cash? What's the cash going to bounce? = Why do people drive on parkways and park on driveways? If it's a freeway = why are there tolls? And another thing I'm not.... I'm late for my anger = management class.... BUT I'M NOT ANGRY! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: AuntRoddi@aol.com=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 9:35 AM Subject: Can't We All Just Get Along?! Mannlisters, as a group (and I'm generalizing, I know), come across as = an=20 angry and defensive bunch. Why? Rosalie ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C062A0.AF669940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'll tell you why we can't get along. Because it's boring! What fun = is it=20 if somebody posts something I disagree with and I can't jump all over = them.=20 Degrade them, chew them out and make them wish they were never born. I = only wish=20 there was someway I could go to their homes and really show them MY = POINT of=20 view. Show them the Mannly way! Then they would see and we would = never have=20 to listen to their stupid, ill advised statements again. If somebody = does not=20 see things the way I do they should not be allowed to makes posts that I = have to=20 read! Why should I be forced to go through all the trouble of hitting = the delete=20 button simply because somebody else is a moron!
 
We're not angry we are misunderstood! Can't you see that! Are you = blind!=20 How dare you accuse us of being defensive! I can't believe you could say = such a=20 thing?! I'll bet your the type of person that never uses a turn = signal when=20 you change lanes! Another thing I hate when your in a hurry and the = person in=20 the left lane is driving 10 mph under the speed limit! How about when = you go to=20 the store to buy some muchies and you want to get home to see Aimee = on Leno=20 and the little old lady in front of is positive she has the .97 in = change! And=20 those two litter bottles of soda! Who designed them? Must have been an=20 orthopedic doctor who specializes in broken toes. Everytime you open the = door=20 the bottle falls over and lands on you toes. And heaven forbid the last = person=20 didn't put the cap on tight. You now have soda all over the kitchen and = all you=20 wanted was a stickin sip in the first place, And unless your a cat and = want to=20 lick it up of the floor you shit out of luck because it was surely the = last=20 bottle! Spell check! Can't they ever figure out what your trying to = spell? Sure=20 they know what you want to spell when your off by one letter and just = made a=20 mistake but when you fucking clueless how to spell a word they have no=20 suggestions! Why does your foot smell and your nose run? And Phil = Collins! He's=20 OK but cut me a fucking break that song sucked. The Corrs everybody = knows about=20 them! Best kept secret? Their fucking Dad owns Coors brewery! They = probably=20 bought the votes! Speaking of votes! This stupid election has gone on = way too=20 fucking long! There were so many law suits to write about on December = 7th I had=20 to look on page three for any mention of Pearl Harbor! By the time they = finally=20 figure out the voters intent, the voters are going to be dead! Maybe = even the=20 two candidates as well! Flip a coin and get the darn thing over with! = They don't=20 care about me why should I care about them?! They're all crooks = &=20 perverts anyway. Speaking of crooks! Tell me the refs in the NFL = are not on=20 the take! Sure they don't have bets on the games! No-one could fuck up = calls as=20 bad as they do without have a reason! A blind person would be right more = of the=20 time than they are. And why should we all get along? Screw it! If they = disagree=20 kill'em all and let God sort'em out. If it wasn't for guns and violence = how=20 would postal workers express themselves. That's another thing how come I = can=20 order B#2 from California and gets here the next day but my cable = company=20 one town away does not get my payment for a week? And why does it take a = bank=20 three days to post cash? What's the cash going to bounce? Why do people = drive on=20 parkways and park on driveways? If it's a freeway why are there tolls? = And=20 another thing I'm not.... I'm late for my anger management class.... BUT = I'M NOT=20 ANGRY!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 AuntRoddi@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 = 9:35=20 AM
Subject: Can't We All Just Get=20 Along?!


Mannlisters, as a group (and I'm generalizing, I = know),=20 come across as an
angry and defensive=20 bunch.

Why?

    =20 Rosalie
------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C062A0.AF669940-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sun Dec 10 11:04:50 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA17709 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:04:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.66.68]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001210170418.LQLJ20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz>; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:04:18 +0000 Message-ID: <011b01c062cb$5190c860$9b404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" , References: <00f301c062c0$7ffcf120$081f8018@tina2.ne.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: Ticketmaster Sucks!!! Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:04:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0118_01C062A1.67E9B4C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0118_01C062A1.67E9B4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can put my name on it as well! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kristina Forsyth=20 To: Mannlist=20 Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Ticketmaster Sucks!!! I had similar experiences yesterday attempting to get ticket for = Boston. Ended up calling a live person. Got seats 5 rows back of the ones I = lost on the Internet. I timed out 3 times. I attempted to send a message to their support service via the form on = their site, and it wouldn't send the message because of an invalid email = address. (I ended up trying every email address I had, hoping one would work.) = I finally got their service email address and sent a message directly - = and to the webmaster. I'm also seriously considering writing directly to the president of Ticketmaster - as soon as I get a name. T -----Original Message----- From: beachbum13 To: Mannlist Date: Saturday, December 09, 2000 12:28 PM Subject: Ticketmaster Sucks!!! TICKETMASTER SUCKS! Yesterday I tried to get back up tickets for Harrisburgh. I have an = account with Ticketmaster for "quicker service". Hahaha. I noticed that I had = a credit card other than the one I wanted to use. No biggie I figure = because I'm pretty sure I already have tickets for the show... So yesterday I = went into "My Account" and changed my cc info. This morning I log on and check "My Account" to make sure all the = changes that I made are there. I want good seats (who I'm I kidding I want = great seats!) and I'm not taking any chances... 10:01 I get through... looks like I'll get good seats! But my old CC = info is up?!?!? I go to modify account. "WE have no account under that email". I have = an email to that address with my password on it! I just modified and = checked my account with that email????? I go back and try and find a way to = bypass the quick checkout..... Not happening. "Five minutes - The time you have = to complete transaction is up.......... 15 minutes later I get through and manually put my account info in and = get my ticket 8-9 rows back from my original seats. Your options... Don't use Ticketmaster and don't go...... This is the = third time something like this has happened. But they want people to use the Internet to book tickets? ------=_NextPart_000_0118_01C062A1.67E9B4C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You can put my name on it as well!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kristina = Forsyth=20
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 = 10:47=20 AM
Subject: Re: Ticketmaster = Sucks!!!

I had similar experiences yesterday attempting to get = ticket=20 for Boston.
Ended up calling a live person.  Got seats 5 rows = back of=20 the ones I lost on
the Internet.  I timed out 3 = times.

I=20 attempted to send a message to their support service via the form on=20 their
site, and it wouldn't send the message because of an invalid = email=20 address.
(I ended up trying every email address I had, hoping one = would=20 work.)  I
finally got their service email address and sent a = message=20 directly - and to
the webmaster.

I'm also seriously = considering=20 writing directly to the president of
Ticketmaster - as soon as I = get a=20 name.

T
-----Original Message-----
From: beachbum13 = <lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net= >
To:=20 Mannlist <mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu= >
Date:=20 Saturday, December 09, 2000 12:28 PM
Subject: Ticketmaster=20 Sucks!!!



TICKETMASTER SUCKS!

Yesterday I tried = to get=20 back up tickets for Harrisburgh. I have an account
with = Ticketmaster for=20 "quicker service". Hahaha. I noticed that I had a
credit card other = than=20 the one I wanted to use. No biggie I figure because
I'm pretty sure = I=20 already have tickets for the show... So yesterday I went
into "My = Account"=20 and changed my cc info.

This morning I log on and check "My = Account" to=20 make sure all the changes
that I made are there. I want good seats = (who I'm=20 I kidding I want great
seats!) and I'm not taking any=20 chances...

10:01 I get through... looks like I'll get good = seats! But=20 my old CC info is
up?!?!?
I go to modify account. "WE have no = account=20 under that email". I have an
email to that address with my password = on it!=20 I just modified and checked my
account with that email????? I go = back and=20 try and find a way to bypass the
quick checkout..... Not = happening. =20 "Five minutes - The time you have to
complete transaction is=20 up..........

15 minutes later I get through and manually put my = account=20 info in and get
my ticket 8-9 rows back from my original = seats.

Your=20 options... Don't use Ticketmaster and don't go...... This is the = third
time=20 something like this has happened. But they want people to use = the
Internet=20 to book tickets?

------=_NextPart_000_0118_01C062A1.67E9B4C0-- >From mvfisk@gj.net Sun Dec 10 11:12:19 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA17859 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:12:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.65.153] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A9D842EF0148; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:14:00 -0700 Message-ID: <3A33B965.D35D41D1@gj.net> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:12:05 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: Re: Public Service Announcement Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Here's another John Lennon song sampling:
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All you need is love
Imagine all the people living life in peace

...from someone who is trying to practice what he preaches
Michael >From AuntRoddi@aol.com Sun Dec 10 11:20:53 2000 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA17976 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:20:52 -0600 (CST) From: AuntRoddi@aol.com Received: from AuntRoddi@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.42.dc3aa64 (3961) for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:20:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42.dc3aa64.2765154d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:20:13 EST Subject: Telling Me Why We Can't Get Along To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: AuntRoddi@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Beachbum -- I DO use my turn signals. : )~ Rosalie >From johnm@interworld.net Sun Dec 10 11:26:06 2000 Received: from interworld.net (mail.interworld.net [206.124.240.102]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA18058 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:26:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from [208.10.116.140] (208.10.116.140) by interworld.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0.2) for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:25:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnm@mail.interworld.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:26:00 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: john Subject: Re: PSA: Quit trying to make Aimee more popular! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: johnm@interworld.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >John said: >>Certainly I applaud the efforts of the people who put up posters and >>work to make Aimee more popular. If I offended anyone who has worked >>toward making Aimee more famous, please accept my apology. >> > >Thanks, John. No offense was taken. > >This whole discussion has gotten a bit out of hand. As you may or >may not know....and as Tony obviously didn't know, I am very much >one of those people. Paul Barras and I coordinate the SuperEgo >Records Street Team. I spend an average of 15 hours a week >promoting Aimee's music and I obviously think her popularity/success >is a good thing. I love Aimee. Of course I want her to be popular - but what we have with her is better than we would ever have at a mega popularity level. Of course I thank you and Paul and the many others - who devote so much time and energy making Aimee better known. It's hard not to spread the word when you know something is so good - and yet somewhat undiscovered. My piece shouldn't be taken so seriously. My subsequent posts were meant to show that we are part of a very cool thing and should appreciate it for what it is - not that I want Aimee to be obscure so I can get up close at a show or "keep her to myself" - while a thought, a laughable concept at best. Aimee is an original. A poetic and musical genius (have I said that enough times??) She really doesn't need massive worldwide success with gigs in big stadiums. Magazine or TV popularity contests are meaningless. Her work stands on its own. She is cool. We know it. I'm just saying enjoy it for what it is - 'cos it's friggin' amazing that we can get so close to someone so cool. All is well in Aimee-ville... >From hoodoomon@yahoo.com Sun Dec 10 11:45:20 2000 Received: from web2006.mail.yahoo.com (web2006.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.206]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id LAA18670 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:45:20 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 9285 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Dec 2000 17:45:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20001210174519.9284.qmail@web2006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.216.194.43] by web2006.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:45:19 PST Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:45:19 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Lieberman Reply-To: hoodoomon@bigfoot.com Subject: Re: ticketmaster sucks To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I swear to God! I had pretty much the exact problem! And, of course, it was while trying to get tix for Aimee. First I had row F (the seating starts at AA and goes to LL before the single letters start - or something like that). Not very good, considering I was right there at 10:00. Then I'm told that the credit card info is messed up, when actually it was fine. So I went back and to my happy amazement, I got row FF. Happy as a lark, right? Of course not! The credit card still doesn't work. Being that my e-mail account was unable to be found, I had to log out and start over again as if I never had an account with ticketmaster. When I got back, I was in Row P. Screw that!! I love Aimee, but I've seen this show with Michael twice this year, plus Aimee alone a couple of other times. I was too pissed off, so I didn't get the seats. I really don't like the venue in the first place. Why doesn't she go back to the TLA? Keswick is way too far. Enjoy the show. I'll be reading all of your bias reviews. Mind you, mind would be bias too. How could Aimee and Michael put on a bad show? Michael __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >From speed3@hawaii.rr.com Sun Dec 10 11:57:39 2000 Received: from hawaii.rr.com (hnlmail3.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.227.37]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA19119 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:57:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.25.228.249] ([24.25.228.249]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.617.61); Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:57:36 -1000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:58:50 -1000 Subject: Mannlister Photos From: Darcy To: Mannlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speed3@hawaii.rr.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I noticed there were quite a few names on the Mannlist posts and I thought it'd be a good idea to remind everyone that Alex has made a page with photos of Mannlisters and where they live, along with other personal information. I encourage all of you to check it out and, if you like what you see, consider sending Alex a photo yourself (as an attachment). Here's a link: http://www.gerbilbox.com/mannlisters/index.html Spread the joy! Darcy Honolulu, Hawai'i - where the sun always shines, but Aimee never plays :( (but it doesn't have to be that way!) Possible names for an Aimee concert in Hawai'i: Aimee, With Aloha Acoustic Vaudeville at Ala Moana Mann on Maui Mann From Maui On The Beach With Aimee Nothing Is Good Enough, Except Aimee in Hawai'i! . . . >From sharbear@epix.net Sun Dec 10 12:28:25 2000 Received: from lima.epix.net (lima.epix.net [199.224.64.56]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA21432 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:28:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from epix.net (svcr-adsl-209-74-0-23.epix.net [209.74.0.23]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with ESMTP id eBAIS6p15395; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:28:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A33CB03.4C1FB90@epix.net> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:27:15 -0500 From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid X-Sender: "Sharon McDonnell Schmid" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: it's an honest question; we've all wondered References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sharbear@epix.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm game, Paul! And I agree with you, Jill, and Beachbum....I took John's post as tongue-in-cheek too. And even if it wasn't...so what? We all have the right to express our opinions. And those who disagree can do so without being brutal and petty. It's not what we say, it's how we say it. Besides, if you're trying to convince someone of your side, it's much more effectively done with a valid argument, in a friendly tone, than by personal attack and insult. sharbear (aka sharon barras) Paul Barras wrote: > If Jill and I weren't offended by the comments, John then I think your > apology (while unecessary to make) should be accepted. We have new people > coming all the time, so a little history here: this is something that this > list has openly pondered on a number of occasions. You know, do we want > Aimee to be more famous vs. our selfish desires to see her in intimate > settings. For the most part, it's out of our hands, and it's only meant to > stimulate discussion. No one has ever *seriously* advocated suppressing > Aimee's music. > > I agree TOTALLY with Beachbum!! The only thing I find intolerable is > intolerance. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but we don't have to be > brutal and attack. I like that old, "make love, not war" cliche. You game, > Shar?! That said, I completely understand Tony's frustration. I have > to go to great lengths to fly and see Aimee, usually while better known > bands, NO DOUBT, for instance, are flown into Anchorage right to my > doorstep, practically. > > I don't think Aimee will ever achieve the success that would involve > worldwride tours; not because of anything we may or may not do to suppress > word of her music, but because she doesn't want that level of success. She > doesn't even like to tour--period. That 14 hour flight to Australia isn't > attractive to her at all. What I wish for Aimee is happiness. I wish her > the exact level of success that she desires. I'd see her in any venue, but > I'll be candid by saying I much prefer the smaller more intimate settings. > > Tony, we really need to talk. I saw VERTICAL LIMIT last nite, and your > mountain climbing story fascinates me. What possesses people to do crazy > stuff like that? I'd say it's the thin air, but they usually make the > decision to imperil their lives at normal altitudes. > > The Sonichawk (not too proud of it last nite) > > P.S. Why did I go to the movies to watch people do stupid, inept, > self-destructive things at high altitudes and vertical limits or the eve of > Seahawks at Mile High Stadium?!! There's probably a script to the sequel in > the box score and stats. > > >From: john > > > >Certainly I applaud the efforts of the people who put up posters and > >work to make Aimee more popular. If I offended anyone who has worked > >toward making Aimee more famous, please accept my apology. > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sun Dec 10 12:46:45 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f44.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.44]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA21872 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:46:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:46:14 -0800 Received: from 24.237.129.170 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:46:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.129.170] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: MP4/Magnolia Recommended at Amazon Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:46:13 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2000 18:46:14.0130 (UTC) FILETIME=[78D93520:01C062D9] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I just logged onto Amazon.com to do some holiday shopping and on the home page they have this YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS which looks brand new considering I was there yesterday and this wasn't there. The was Michael Penn and MP4 on the home page. I don't remember filling out a profile at Amazon but Magnolia DVD and Sinead OConner were also listed. It could just be tied to my orderin history tastes, (though I don't order very often from them) and if that IS the case, that's scary. What are you guys seeing on the home page since I can't remove any cookies. Here's the complete URL in that dropbox thingamajig: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/subst/home/home.html/102-0139963-3326515 I went and voted at wfuv.org. Everyone should vote for Bachelor #2. Magnolia is up too, but we shouldn't split her vote, and technically it's a 1999 release, isn't it? Thanks for posting that Andrea. MP4, Figure 8 and Jill Sobule are listed as well. Also, according to Brion's list, his new CD is for sale at Largo shows!! Sean or Elizabeth, get me one!! I'm good for the money. It should be available thru ArtistDirect early next year. On his own label, Straight to Cutout. Annnnnnd, I am listening to my new Rufus Wainwright thumbing thru the liner notes, and I read that Brion produced it!! Do you have it Jack? I mean, it *IS* a Brion production! Sonichawk a.k.a. SufferingFan a.k.a. PennMann np The Cure, Best of... as my soundtrack to mute NFL games _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From lynch@math.berea.edu Sun Dec 10 13:16:01 2000 Received: from mercury.cc.utexas.edu (mercury.cc.utexas.edu [128.83.217.23]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA23196 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:15:59 -0600 (CST) From: lynch@math.berea.edu Received: from math.berea.edu (math.berea.edu [192.68.112.209]) by mercury.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/cc-mailroom.mc-1.32) with ESMTP id NAA13826 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:17:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by math.berea.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29063; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:26:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:26:07 -0500 (EST) To: AuntRoddi@aol.com cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Can't We All Just Get Along?! In-Reply-To: <48.e83f431.2764eec0@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: lynch@math.berea.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I would say that, unfortunately, it's a nearly ubiquitous part of internet communication. It may be caused by the anonymity (sp?) of e-mail or it may be just a matter of the lowest common denominator (I mean that conversation-wise not people wise). In any event, it seems to be true of any list I've been on (and I don't even start it since I'm just lurking mostly). James On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 AuntRoddi@aol.com wrote: > > Mannlisters, as a group (and I'm generalizing, I know), come across as an > angry and defensive bunch. > > Why? > > Rosalie > >From Sycamoe2@cs.com Sun Dec 10 13:40:25 2000 Received: from imo-r18.mail.aol.com (imo-r18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.72]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA25190 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:40:24 -0600 (CST) From: Sycamoe2@cs.com Received: from Sycamoe2@cs.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.96.d2aa2d7 (4560); Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:39:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <96.d2aa2d7.27653604@cs.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:39:48 EST Subject: Re: Can't We All Just Get Along?! To: AuntRoddi@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown sub 107 Reply-To: Sycamoe2@cs.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Yes, I wonder why also. Frankly, I've always felt that many intellectuals--perhaps especially liberals--were a bit thin-skinned. People that appreciate Aimee are surely above average intelligence and, I suspect, leaning a bit left of center. Now don't get me wrong, I'M thin-skinned! But I always try to consider the audience before dashing off a terse response in an open forum. It seems to me that most of us could do without the pointless arguments when the persistence of a thread is a direct result of hurt feelings and offended pride rather than a genuine desire to air all the details of an issue. I happen to have a theory on why this happens so often on this list. Aimee's writing persona, so-to-speak, is rather a bitter and sarcastic victim. And I think that we all can relate to the hurt that this "voice" originates from because we've all felt it (and--speaking for only myself, of course--perhaps dwelt in it) The difficult thing about people like us is we so often bemoan the way people treat us, and yet we always seem to reserve the right to lambaste anyone that offends our ego with the same kinds of verbal darts that sent us off crying in the first place. What is most enjoyable for me about Aimee's lyrics is that they are indeed sarcastic and frequently caustic, maybe just enough to get to the truth about relationships--business and romantic. Maybe you know what I mean, when you're in a fog with someone and you're both simmering until someone says just the right thing at the right time that sums up the nasty reality of what's going on behind the words and the reality check instigates real emotional movement in the relationship. Nasty words can also break relationships forever and I've learned the hard way that you can never really take them back. So that's my take on the thing for what it's worth. By the way, what does anyone think about the courtroom motif in Aimee's writing? "Baby can't raise up a hand to swear to you...just remember that when you take the stand, whatever defenses you had planned..." There are many. And we probably all know what THAT'S about--the argument you have with your mate when you both imagine a judge, prosecutor, and defense...ughhh. Peace to all, Harry >From Sycamoe2@cs.com Sun Dec 10 13:43:45 2000 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA25514 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:43:44 -0600 (CST) From: Sycamoe2@cs.com Received: from Sycamoe2@cs.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id 4.a8.e334dee (4560); Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:43:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:43:08 EST Subject: Re: Can't We All Just Get Along?! To: info@paulmelancon.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown sub 107 Reply-To: Sycamoe2@cs.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN "PO" in the subject line. Hee, hee...Great idea! >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sun Dec 10 14:20:26 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA26568 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:20:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBAKKTi13233 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:20:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A33E58D.8020700@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:20:29 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001210 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: In other news ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN If all goes to plan and I don't do something stupid like get on the wrong bus(es), tomorrow will be my first Aimee concert (YAY). Actually, it's also my first rock concert (double YAY). So looks like I'll be providing the setlist and review for you guys, but anyone else going to the Petaluma show? -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From diri.gini@virgin.net Sun Dec 10 14:46:07 2000 Received: from mta7-svc.virgin.net (mta7-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA27339 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:46:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.68.121]) by mta7-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP id <20001210204603.ISMD13038.mta7-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:46:03 +0000 Message-ID: <003301c062e9$afd75240$7944fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: <3A32CB96.707E02DA@connexus.net.au> <003f01c062aa$abdb1d00$3944fc3e@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: PSI: Hey! Quit trying to make Aimee more popular! Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:41:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello John, everyone, I'm sorry your feeling the heat over this, but you and I are having a nice (cool if you like :-) discussion, yes? I feel a lot of sympathy for both sides here. There's a group over here called Blur, who are in my humble opinion are brilliant, but never made it big in the states and I'm quite happy about that, because it means that they don't - from my point of view - waste months touring where I can't hear them. On the other hand, I'm almost as badly off as mr dunny, but as east I have seen Aimee live. You know, it's about 200 years since it was crimminal to be Australian, so give the guy a little parole! > I'm not against Aimee playing in England - or Australia - or anywhere > for that matter. Hopefully a requirement of that is not huge and > raging popularity. I didn't think you were. I think the gates of mega-popularity are closed for Aimee and I doubt she's crying over it. > >As for your response John: > > > >> Poetic and musical genius like Aimee's cannot be supressed from being > >> recognized *ultimately*.... > >> > >> It is only a matter of time. > >I'm less optimistic than you, John. Aimee has been pushed back almost to the > >starting point in her career; she simply shouldn't be working so hard to > >gain the level of support she has. > > Man, I couldn't disagree with you more here. > > Aimee is *way* further along. Her fans and supporters include > Rolling Stone's Jan Werner, Jay Leno, Conan, Spin magazine, Elvis > Costello and a host of cool musicians. Hhmmmmm... Then why is Aimee busting her ass off, touring so much? She's doing it, because she feels she has to build up grassroots support (I hope you're taking notes Mr Gore ;-). Aimee has to think twice before she makes a video, because of the cost and becuase it won't get anything like the amount of air time Britney can command. Aimee makes her living selling records, not collecting famous autographs. Yes, the people you listed can help give her a bit of publicity, but Aimee has to convert that into sales. > I would also point to Magnolia, an Oscar nomination, and most > importantly, the quality of her work. Aimee continues to put out > great song after great song. You can't push that down. I'm not pushing that down. I'm saying that cream can't rise to the top when the bottle is being vigorously shaken and it's almost butter where I'm standing. > Screw Interscope. They couldn't push her down - she left! She doesn't > need that machine becasue she is *real*. Indeed she is and if that were a guarantee of success, she'd still be on top after Whatever, which IMHO is the best album _ever made_. > As far as working so hard to gain the level of support...I don't know > that writing songs/putting out cds/touring small venues is more work > than writing songs/putting out cds/touring huge stadiums (with the > world expecting every new cd and song to be great.) I think one of the points of playing huge stadiums is to reduce the number of venues that have to be played, which would make it easier even if each stadium performance were harder. > The Beatles music stands today not because it was hugely popular in > the 1960's, but because it is great music. When I was a kid in the eighties, nobody under 30 liked The Beatles, in fact when John Lennon was shot, I was wondering what all the fuss was about. Music does go in and out of fashion. People are fickle. Personally, I think you're wrong about The Beatles as well. Yes, people are rightly recognising that they were an extraordinary band, but I think there wouldn't be the interest if they'd been obscure. Yes people like Aimee and Bruce Springsteen do quote Lennon and McCartney as influences, but only because they got to hear them in the first place. Hidden lights don't show the way. > >Besides, shouldn't Aimee get to enjoy the adulation while she can? I bet she > >could make a better fist of it than most. > > Coolness does not equal popularity. Neither does it pay the bills. > I could care less what Bach or Shakespeare or Monet's contemporaries > thought of them, much less the general public. And what's wrong with the general public? As well as being utterly unique, I'm general public. > Their contributions > to the world were not negated by their popularity - or lack thereof. All three examples you quote were IIRC lauded in their time. Even composers who died in poverty, like Mozart or Vivaldi, had periods of acclaim. To prove your point, you'll have to quote someone who only became popular after their demise. I can think of no examples. > My point: We are lucky to be able to see her in such intimate surroundings. My point: You and I have been - and hopefully will be - lucky to see Aimee. Tony and many many more luck out. My second point: Popularity doesn't guarantee fame for posterity, but obscurity guarantees that no one remembers. All the best, you bounder. :-) (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From DaggerDeb@aol.com Sun Dec 10 15:54:33 2000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA00276 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:54:32 -0600 (CST) From: DaggerDeb@aol.com Received: from DaggerDeb@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.a8.e35e8cb (3700) for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:53:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:53:55 EST Subject: Re: Can't We All Just Get Along?! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a8.e35e8cb.27655573_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: DaggerDeb@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_a8.e35e8cb.27655573_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mannlisters, as a group (and I'm generalizing, I know), come across as an angry and defensive bunch. Why? Perhaps it's because many of Aimee's songs (the entire I'm With Stupid album, for example, although not so much of her recent work, I suppose) are often angry or defensive, or at least sympathetic to those who are either angry or defensive. If you were always very happy or friendly and had no excuse to be defensive, wouldn't you be listening to something a little lighter? Deb --part1_a8.e35e8cb.27655573_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mannlisters, as a group (and I'm generalizing, I know), come across as an
angry and defensive bunch.
Why?

Perhaps it's because many of Aimee's songs (the entire I'm With Stupid album,
for example, although not so much of her recent work, I suppose) are often
angry or defensive, or at least sympathetic to those who are either angry or
defensive.  If you were always very happy or friendly and had no excuse to be
defensive, wouldn't you be listening to something a little lighter?  

Deb --part1_a8.e35e8cb.27655573_boundary-- >From ironman@connexus.net.au Sun Dec 10 16:21:39 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA03218 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:21:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (mail.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.17]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA19461; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:21:25 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) From: "Tony Iremonger" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: ironman@connexus.net.au To: "Ian F. Braidwood." Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:21:29 +1100 Subject: Re: My parole officer X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6k, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3a3401e9.4bf9.0@connexus.net.au> X-User-Info: 203.34.175.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: ironman@connexus.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ian, Mr Dunny? Oh, touche! I've been to the UK a couple of times and spent 18 months living and working in London 1986-1988. I had a fantastic time! But don't you think it a little ironic that you chose to send your "criminals" (unwanted and starving irish mostly) to live out the terms of their natural lives in this big land of beaches and sunshine while the rest of you stayed in drab, dreary, damp and over-crowded Blightey. Tony >On the other hand, I'm almost as badly off as mr dunny, but as east I have >seen Aimee live. > >You know, it's about 200 years since it was crimminal to be Australian, so >give the guy a little parole! > >From ironman@connexus.net.au Sun Dec 10 17:11:05 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA05458 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:11:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (mail.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.17]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA26873; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:10:56 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) From: "Tony Iremonger" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: ironman@connexus.net.au To: "Ian F. Braidwood." Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:10:56 +1100 Subject: Re: Acoustic Vaudeville X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6k, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3a340d80.68f3.0@connexus.net.au> X-User-Info: 203.34.175.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: ironman@connexus.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ian, Yours is an interesting observation on Michael Penn's participation in concert with Aimee Mann. Only two days ago I got to hear one of these Acoustic Vaudeville shows for the first time thanks to a generous mannlister sending it to me on CD-R. I have to say that I found the format a little bit tedious and the "commedian" irritating rather than funny. It all served to detract from Aimee Mann (who was the star of the show, right - or does Michael Penn get equal billing?). I was wondering whether it was a case of "you had to be there" to appreciate the looseness of it all. Your comments seem to confirm my overall impression, albeit with limited exposure to the concept, that it just didn't work. No doubt those in the audience with more knowledge of Penn's material might have a different view. Prior to hearing this show I had only heard one song - "Perfect Candidate" ( a Napster download)so maybe I'll appreciate it a bit more as my familiarity with the Penn material grows. Tony Iremonger aka "The Flaming Dingo" Melbourne, Australia A nice place to raise yer kids. >It was for me as if the warm-up act hadn't had the decency to leave the >stage once his set was over. I enjoyed the show, but I left tired rather >than elated. >From sharbear@epix.net Sun Dec 10 17:23:10 2000 Received: from bean.epix.net (bean.epix.net [199.224.64.57]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA06246 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:23:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from epix.net (svcr-adsl-209-74-0-23.epix.net [209.74.0.23]) by bean.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with ESMTP id eBANN8r03170 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:23:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A34102F.E5E4059E@epix.net> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:22:23 -0500 From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid X-Sender: "Sharon McDonnell Schmid" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Mannlist Subject: Re: Mannlister Photos References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------04F5EAD1930076A7D01A445F" Reply-To: sharbear@epix.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --------------04F5EAD1930076A7D01A445F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex...don't forget to get the mannlister of all mannlisters on your site--Paul Barras!!!! ;-) Many a gay man (and straight woman) is missing out by not being able to see his foxy little face up there. Oh, and I think Jill might be in that same shot I sent you too!! Get her pretty little face up there as well! Darcy wrote: > I noticed there were quite a few names on the Mannlist posts and I thought > it'd be a good idea to remind everyone that Alex has made a page with photos > of Mannlisters and where they live, along with other personal information. I > encourage all of you to check it out and, if you like what you see, consider > sending Alex a photo yourself (as an attachment). Here's a link: > > http://www.gerbilbox.com/mannlisters/index.html > > Spread the joy! > > Darcy > Honolulu, Hawai'i - where the sun always shines, but Aimee never plays :( > (but it doesn't have to be that way!) > > Possible names for an Aimee concert in Hawai'i: > > Aimee, With Aloha > Acoustic Vaudeville at Ala Moana > Mann on Maui > Mann From Maui > On The Beach With Aimee > Nothing Is Good Enough, Except Aimee in Hawai'i! > > . . . --------------04F5EAD1930076A7D01A445F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex...don't forget to get the mannlister of all mannlisters on your site--Paul Barras!!!!    ;-)     Many a gay man (and straight woman) is missing out by not being able to see his foxy little face up there.    Oh, and I think Jill might be in that same shot I sent you too!!  Get her pretty little face up there as well!
 

Darcy wrote:

I noticed there were quite a few names on the Mannlist posts and I thought
it'd be a good idea to remind everyone that Alex has made a page with photos
of Mannlisters and where they live, along with other personal information. I
encourage all of you to check it out and, if you like what you see, consider
sending Alex a photo yourself (as an attachment). Here's a link:

http://www.gerbilbox.com/mannlisters/index.html

Spread the joy!

Darcy
Honolulu, Hawai'i - where the sun always shines, but Aimee never plays :(
(but it doesn't have to be that way!)

Possible names for an Aimee concert in Hawai'i:

Aimee, With Aloha
Acoustic Vaudeville at Ala Moana
Mann on Maui
Mann From Maui
On The Beach With Aimee
Nothing Is Good Enough, Except Aimee in Hawai'i!

. . .

--------------04F5EAD1930076A7D01A445F-- >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sun Dec 10 22:33:56 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA03516 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:33:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBB4Xsi25044 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:33:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A345930.2000703@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:33:52 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001210 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Mannlisters page updated Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN First off, my apologies for those who sent me pictures and update requests for the past month. When I'm busy, I forget, and when I forget ... you get the idea. I hope I didn't forget anyone while going through my backlog of emails, so if I forget anything you're more than welcome to harrass me about it. Thanks to Darcy for mentioning the page again. Whether you're new to the list or not and want your picture at my site, just attach it as either a JPEG or PNG and send it to me and when I'm not busy I'll update it. I suggest you include a short little caption or description of the picture, and maybe your location too. Oh yeah, the link: http://www.gerbilbox.com/mannlisters/ -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Mon Dec 11 02:32:45 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA14430 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:32:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBB8Wii17285 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:32:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A349120.9030905@ucdavis.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:32:32 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001210 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee's voice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Tony's story reminded me of something. Maybe my ears aren't so "musical" as some people, but I've been noticing a lot lately how Aimee's songs can easily get the attention of people who've never heard her songs before. One such time I was at my campus newspaper's production room, and the layout director (my boss, hehe) put B#2 into the stereo. Not even a quarter though "How Am I Different," one of the editors who was near me asked "Who is that singing?" Naturally, said Aimee's name and briefly mentioned who she was and that I was a big fan of hers. I admit that Aimee's voice wasn't the first thing that caught my attention when I first heard her music through Magnolia. What got my attention was the beautifully written lyrics that seem to resonate so well with the various characters in the movie. I'm not belittling her voice here, but I didn't notice its full beauty until a little bit after. But a lot of people, I've been noticing, are drawn to her voice almost instantly. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From 9608083r@student.gla.ac.uk Mon Dec 11 03:48:14 2000 Received: from hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk (hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.102]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id DAA16941 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:48:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from student_cc.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.13.51] helo=lms.student.gla.ac.uk) by hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 145PZ3-0002va-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:48:09 +0000 Received: from STUDENT_CC/SpoolDir by lms.student.gla.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 11 Dec 00 09:48:40 BST Received: from SpoolDir by STUDENT_CC (Mercury 1.46); 11 Dec 00 09:48:29 BST From: "Gizmo" <9608083r@student.gla.ac.uk> Organization: Glasgow University To: , dewdrop@corplink.com.au Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:48:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 995 Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3A32C242.E226264A@corplink.com.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Reply-To: 9608083r@student.gla.ac.uk Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN wrote: >Can someone please tell me how I can redirect the Mannlist to another >e-mail address? I won't be using this one anymore..... >And I can't help myself! Here's my (premature) list for my best of 2000: >(In random order)- > >1. Aimee Mann - Bachelor #2 >2. Madonna - Music >3. Bjork - Selmasongs >4. Carly Simon - The Bedroom Tapes >5. The Eels - Daisies of the Galaxy >6. U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind >7. Radiohead - Kid A >8. Powderfinger - Odyssey #5 >9. Various artists - Snatch (Stealin' Stones and Breakin' Bones) >Original Film Soundtrack >10. Blur - The Best Of Dewdrop, interesting choice for the best of 2000. Some i cannot complain about like Aimee(obviously), and Madonna sure but IMHO Radiohead and Eels i might argue are not as good as they were hyped to be in certain music press. Have still to hear Carly Simon and Bjork so i can't say but i still have 20 or so days to make up for this lapse. I would say that replacing the two in there that I can't agree with have to be LimpBizkit - Hot dog flavoured water and Therapy - so much for the 10 year Plan. I can see me being seriously unpopular for those two.... especially with you Mr Scott!!!!. Graham >From NadjaDee@aol.com Mon Dec 11 07:02:29 2000 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA29130; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:02:28 -0600 (CST) From: NadjaDee@aol.com Received: from NadjaDee@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.75.d5747ff (3861); Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:01:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <75.d5747ff.27662a40@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:01:52 EST Subject: Aimee HUB show; tiny bit of OT To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 124 Reply-To: NadjaDee@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm going to come out of lurking long enough to post my reaction to Aimee's Seattle HUB concert on Friday. Dave Witherbee and I had a fantastic time and helped wrap the equipment until 2AM! What an experience that was....About the concert...The only other "mannlister" I recognized in attendance was Salt. He informed us that Aimee was fighting a cold and didn't expect her to be at her best, performance wise. The first two opening acts (Damien Jurado & his wife Rose Thomas - who only sang one song + Crooked Fingers) were not my favorite, but they were there to promote the Badlands tribute to Bruce CD. Aimee came out with a 5 piece band and immediately opened with "One," complete with Magnolia sound bite musical intro before the song, ALA the soundtrack. This was an extremely different show from AV. Aimee looked and sounded great. She seemed ''professionally determined'' to do her best show in that manner. I didn't get a set list so I cant post what she played, but she used a lot of the sound bites, that you normally didn't hear during AV. At one point, near the end of "Red Vines" a fan threw a package of the candy by the same name on the stage. Aimee was talking to John Sands (drummer) at the time and didn't notice. They segued right into the next song and when Aimee turned around to start singing, she noticed that the Red Vines had turned off the pedal to her guitar. She looked upset, stopped playing and turned back to John, who asked 'What's wrong?' I expected her to announce to please not throw things up on the stage during the set....but nope. She remained very professional and merely said..."guitar problem'. That really impressed me. It continued with an apology about her voice due to the cold. "I feel like my entire nose and mouth is one big huge chapped area. " Another fan handed her flowers. She took them in one hand, thanked him, and picking up the Red Vines off the floor in the other saying ''Flowers, Candy...ooh its like a date.'' The younger, college aged audience laughed. She continued "I feel like I should sleep with ALL of you" The crowd now started cheering and clapping. Aimee added "Wow, even the girls were excited about that." She was happy and making jokes. I've always felt that although she and Michael may not feel comfortable doing between song banter...they are both very good and very funny. She did one encore, and strangely enough did not play 'Reason To Believe'' the Bruce Springsteen song she was there to promote. Dave and I wrapped all the equipment until 2 in the morning. It was a lot of work. Taking advantage of the sexist comment toward me, I gladly agreed to wrap the lighter microphone stands and cables versus lifting the zillion LB speakers like the boys. (My poor BF's back is still hurting today from all the lifting. He's more used to navigating around a mousepad than a stagehand) Those guys work HARD! Oh muy gawd...that is some heavy equipment. I do not envy the work they do to put on these shows. Aimee had the Christmas two song single (The Christmas song...you know "Chestnuts roasting...." and Michael's ''penned'' Christmastime) for sale at $5. This is also available free with purchase at the website...I'm told. Well, sorry to ramble on so dang long. OT stuff: In comment to Paul's movie post. I agree about his comments towards UNBREAKABLE. It received such poor reviews that I went expecting it to be bad..and ended up liking it. A recommendation is PAY IT FORWARD. Kevin Spacey is just so wonderful. The little boy from Sixth Sense Haley, is in the movie too, so between seeing Unbreakable and Pay It Forward, it felt like I just rented Sixth Sense again. Hehe. Thanks for reading my long post. I am now going back into hiding..with nothing to say. Nadja Dee e NADJA DEE's LAVENDER GARDEN website >From MGiammatteo@getty.edu Mon Dec 11 11:14:52 2000 Received: from mail.getty.edu (mail.getty.edu [153.10.96.96]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id LAA18316 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from Getty-Message_Server by mail.getty.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:14:01 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:13:53 -0800 From: "Michael Giammatteo" To: Subject: Aimee at HOB & Lennon story Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id LAA18317 Reply-To: MGiammatteo@getty.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was one of a party of four that was to meet at the House Of Blues at 6pm for a pre concert dinner. I, of course, was the first to arrive. So I'm hanging out at the bar waiting, waiting. I could hear Aimee's sound check through the walls. I follow the sound, walk through an open door & find myself on a balcony overlooking the stage. I watched the rest of the soundcheck from there. Aimee made a number of references to being sick, which she eventually repeated during the show. She also repeated her Spinal Tap joke during the show, which was prompted by some keyboard noodlings during the sound check. She laughed & said "jazz odyssey". She wore the same clothing on stage that she wore at soundcheck but for the addition of a vest. For a woman complaining that she was "sick as a dog" her voice was incredible. Occasionally she sounded slightly congested, but 80% of the time you'd never have guessed. Wonderful control. My group and I were at center stage, three people deep. So, about six or eight feet from Aimee. Two different pairs of women tried to cut in front of us, but were unsuccessful. Aside from that, the audience was unusually friendly & chatty. I wound up speaking briefly to three different groups of fans. Grant Lee Phillips opened. I had no idea he had fronted Grant Lee Buffalo till he sang "Mockingbirds". So that was a nice surprise. I'd seen an Acoustic Vaudeville show earlier this year. I was looking forward to this show as it was my opportunity to hear more of Aimee's tunes. She opened with "One" which was fine, then launched into "Choice In The Matter" which has become my new favorite Aimee song. Somehow I overlooked that one when I originally bought "Stupid" so many years ago. The audience seemed to respond most to Magnolia tunes, so I'm thinking there were quite a few newbies there, which is pretty damn cool. I hope they all run out & buy Bachelor. She even mentioned that most of the show was made up of Bachelor & Magnolia tunes with a sprinkling of "I'm with Stupid". I didn't realize till the drive home that she'd ignored "Voices Carry". Granted, during Acoustic Vaudeville shows she made fun of it, but it's still a significant part of her history. Chartwise, it's THE most significant part of her history. Wouldn't it be cool if she dragged out some songs from "Everything's Different Now"? But I dream. Okay, question for Sean. Have you seen Aimee solo before? I have not. I must say, I didn't find her performance particularly dynamic. Compared to the AV show, I was a bit disappointed. Was it because she wasn't feeling well? Was she a bit off that night? Or does she need to feed off of Michael and a comic? The AV show was so good. Your thoughts? My Lennon story is not quite as dramatic as some of the others. But I do remember a lot of rock fans my age looking to Springsteen for "guidance" after the assassination. I saw Springsteen later during the same tour - New Years Eve at the Nassau Colosseum NY. I found out about John's murder when my mom shook me awake saying "they killed John". What a horrible way to come into consciousness. When my head cleared enough to understand her, I switched on the radio in disbelief. WNEW in NYC was playing George Harrison's "Isn't it a pity". That was all the confirmation I needed. At the time I was working as a "runner" for the supermarket tabloid the Globe. They had me running about all day to the various photo agencies in Manhattan to pick up photos of John for their "memorial" issue. I actually contributed to the mag when they were debating about using some quote about Lennon. I suggested they use his own words - I mean, it's not as if he hasn't left a boatload of lyrics to choose from. There was silence as the editors looked at each other & maybe pondered whether this 18 year old kid may be onto something. "What quote did you have in mind?" I was asked. I thought for a moment, "How about the opening verse to In My Life"? They asked me to write it out & they did indeed wind up using it. Near the end of the afternoon I was asked to drop off a package at the guard booth at the Dakota. I walked up from the subway station & found myself across the street from the Dakota. The building was lined with people crying & singing Give Peace A Chance. There were so many people it almost looked like an incredibly somber line for a major film premiere. I spied the guard gate & froze. It was only feet from the guard booth that Lennon fell. I didn't want to see that. I couldn't go there. I stood frozen for a few minutes until a policeman asked me if I was okay. I explained that I had to deliver a package to the guard booth but I couldn't do it. He offered to deliver it for me. I watched him take it over & he waved afterward. I called work from a pay phone & informed them that I couldn't work any longer that day. I was going home. -Michael >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Mon Dec 11 12:45:10 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f264.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.139]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA28579 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:45:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:44:38 -0800 Received: from 24.237.113.5 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:44:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.113.5] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:44:38 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2000 18:44:38.0709 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A62DE50:01C063A2] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Thanks, Nadja and Mike! Great to heare about the shows. Mr. Nelson, you were supposed to bring Aimee some chicken soup! A can of Campbell's soup would have been fine even, just not thrown at the stage a la red vines candy. To Tony and others wondering, Aimee and Michael receive shared, equal billing for AV shows (despite one Colorado venue's tix that showed Michael opening for Aimee). I think that is why Aimee always opens with the first song in their 1-1-3-3-5-5 format so Penn's appearance won't be misconstrued. Frankly, I find the comedians/comediennes as a nice diversion. We have heard all of Aimee and Penn's songs backwards (you guys have WAY too much time on your hands or just ultra-devoted) and forwards-- both live and studio versions so it adds something original to the mix. I also think Aimee performs BETTER when she is having fun, and she has way more fun when her husband is on the road with her, professionally speaking of course. Additionally, the Penns get a huge kick out of their comedians. So, Mike, I can answer for Sean, "I have enjoyed Aimee's AV shows much more than her solo shows." Every solo show I have been to (looking back in retrospect) has been more by-the-numbers. My favorite AV and Aimee conc ert moment PERIOD was their little Gracie-GeorgeBurns-esque bit poking fun at John Davidson's book. I am going to try and find out this week what show(s) the live AV album is culled from as well as when and where the Town Hall show is. I hope I can get a date on the premiere of the Ghost World video too! I also want to ask Hausman if Aimee is contributing any music to the ANNIVERSARY PARTY film that Penn is scoring. Nadja, thanks so much for helping out. Illness, distance and other considerations prevented several members in the Northwest form turning out to *show Aimee love* and, apparently, she was feeling a bit frisky, DAMMIT! So that flowers and candy ruse REALLY works with women?!! Men just need a wink! Oh, they have an HBO store at buy.com for X-mas shopping. They have Sopranos and Sex in the City gift sets but no OZ!!! I was all prepared to register and tell folks to get me the OZ box set that surely comes with soap on a rope and snazzy orange jumpsuits for home dress-up... Missed opportunities. Sharon, I was going to suggest we play "Escaped Horny Convict-Sexy Hostage"--I was going to be the hostage. I have another CDNow coupon for anyone interested. Paul _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From cjwallis@home.com Mon Dec 11 12:58:25 2000 Received: from mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com (mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com [24.2.10.84]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA29863 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:58:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from cr305126a ([24.113.173.94]) by mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001211185819.LAAI6583.mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com@cr305126a> for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:58:19 -0800 From: "cjwallis" To: "Mann List" Subject: HUB Concert Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:59:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Reply-To: cjwallis@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey; I was at the HUB concert, and I have the playlist for you and the Aimee quotes. One or two of the quotes aren't exactly right, but... Oh, and this is my first post to the list, so. Hi. I'm the graphics guy from ptanderson.com Aimee’s Playlist: 1. ‘One’ 2. ‘Choice In The Matter’ “Did you see the news today from Florida (chuckles) Man, oh, man. I really hope this craziness will continue for the next four years. 3. ‘That’s Just What You Are’ 4. ‘How Am I Different’ “This song, uh…is from the movie. (no crowd response) ‘Patch Adams.’ (laughter) From the movie Magnolia.” 5. ‘Save Me’ “Um, I don’t even know what album this song is from. I think it’s from ‘I’m With Stupid’. The one before the one before. 6. ‘It’s Not Safe’ 7. ‘Fourth Of July’ “I’m sorry if I’m starting to sound a little croaky. I’ve got a bit of a cold. This whole area of my face and…(gestures) is all…it’s very unappealing. 8. ‘Red Vines’ 9. ‘Susan’ “This is about getting out of high school or college and not knowing what to do with yourself. Like most of you in a couple years. (laughter) 10. ‘Hanging Around’ 11. ‘Long Shot’ 12. ‘Calling It Quits’ ENCORE. “Ooh. (picks up gifts from crowd) I got flowers. And candy. It’s like a date. (laughter, tunes her guitar) I’m going to sleep with you all at the end of the show. (wild applause, cheering) Wow, even the girls cheered. Thank you.” 1. ‘Wise Up’ “This is another one from the Magnolia soundtrack. The last one.” 2. ‘Deathly’ “Thanks, you guys have been absolutly wonderful" -cjwallis kid drinking fire productions www.kiddrinkingfire.com graphics designer cigarettes & coffee the definitive p.t.anderson resource www.ptanderson.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 11 13:48:09 2000 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA05056 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:48:08 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id t.de.d8b9bf6 (16486); Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:46:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:46:39 EST Subject: Re: HUB Concert To: cjwallis@home.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_de.d8b9bf6.2766891f_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_de.d8b9bf6.2766891f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 12/11/00 1:59:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 cjwallis@home.com writes: > Oh, and this is my first post to the list, so. Hi. I'm the graphics guy fr= om > ptanderson.com >=20 > Aimee=E2=80=99s Playlist: >=20 > 1. =E2=80=98One=E2=80=99 > 2. =E2=80=98Choice In The Matter=E2=80=99 >=20 > =E2=80=9CDid you see the news today from Florida (chuckles) Man, oh, man.=20= I really > hope this craziness will continue for the next four years. >=20 > 3. =E2=80=98That=E2=80=99s Just What You Are=E2=80=99 > 4. =E2=80=98How Am I Different=E2=80=99 >=20 > =E2=80=9CThis song, uh=E2=80=A6is from the movie. (no crowd response) =E2= =80=98Patch Adams.=E2=80=99 > (laughter) From the movie Magnolia.=E2=80=9D >=20 > 5. =E2=80=98Save Me=E2=80=99 >=20 > =E2=80=9CUm, I don=E2=80=99t even know what album this song is from. I thi= nk it=E2=80=99s from=20 > =E2=80=98I=E2=80=99m > With Stupid=E2=80=99. The one before the one before. >=20 > 6. =E2=80=98It=E2=80=99s Not Safe=E2=80=99 > 7. =E2=80=98Fourth Of July=E2=80=99 >=20 > =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m sorry if I=E2=80=99m starting to sound a little croak= y. I=E2=80=99ve got a bit of a > cold. This whole area of my face and=E2=80=A6(gestures) is all=E2=80=A6it= =E2=80=99s very > unappealing. >=20 > 8. =E2=80=98Red Vines=E2=80=99 > 9. =E2=80=98Susan=E2=80=99 >=20 > =E2=80=9CThis is about getting out of high school or college and not knowi= ng what to > do with yourself. Like most of you in a couple years. (laughter) >=20 > 10. =E2=80=98Hanging Around=E2=80=99 > 11. =E2=80=98Long Shot=E2=80=99 > 12. =E2=80=98Calling It Quits=E2=80=99 >=20 > ENCORE. >=20 > =E2=80=9COoh. (picks up gifts from crowd) I got flowers. And candy. It=E2= =80=99s like a > date. (laughter, tunes her guitar) I=E2=80=99m going to sleep with you all= at the > end of the show. (wild applause, cheering) Wow, even the girls cheered. > Thank you.=E2=80=9D >=20 > 1. =E2=80=98Wise Up=E2=80=99 >=20 > =E2=80=9CThis is another one from the Magnolia soundtrack. The last one.= =E2=80=9D >=20 > 2. =E2=80=98Deathly=E2=80=99 >=20 > =E2=80=9CThanks, you guys have been absolutly wonderful" >=20 > -cjwallis >=20 >=20 Welcome CJ, this is a cool post. Wow, whatever cold pills Aimee was on that=20 night, kind of revved her up a little. It sounds like she was a little punch= y=20 from the cold, and no disrespect is meant by that. I haven't heard her be=20 like this for years in concert, and it's cool that she's so spirted again.=20 Make you wonder what she'll be like at the AV shows, and will Michael be the= =20 same. Andrea --part1_de.d8b9bf6.2766891f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 12/11/= 00 1:59:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cjwallis@home.com writes:


Oh, and this is my first po= st to the list, so. Hi. I'm the graphics guy from
ptanderson.com

Aimee=E2=80=99s Playlist:

1.    =E2=80=98One=E2=80=99
2.    =E2=80=98Choice In The Matter=E2=80=99

=E2=80=9CDid you see the news today from Florida (chuckles) Man, oh, man= . I really
hope this craziness will continue for the next four years.

3.    =E2=80=98That=E2=80=99s Just What You Are=E2=80=99
4.    =E2=80=98How Am I Different=E2=80=99

=E2=80=9CThis song, uh=E2=80=A6is from the movie. (no crowd response)=20= =E2=80=98Patch Adams.=E2=80=99
(laughter) From the movie Magnolia.=E2=80=9D

5.    =E2=80=98Save Me=E2=80=99

=E2=80=9CUm, I don=E2=80=99t even know what album this song is from. I t= hink it=E2=80=99s from
=E2=80=98I=E2=80=99m
With Stupid=E2=80=99. The one before the one before.

6.    =E2=80=98It=E2=80=99s Not Safe=E2=80=99
7.    =E2=80=98Fourth Of July=E2=80=99

=E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m sorry if I=E2=80=99m starting to sound a little cro= aky. I=E2=80=99ve got a bit of a
cold. This whole area of my face and=E2=80=A6(gestures) is all=E2=80=A6i= t=E2=80=99s very
unappealing.

8.    =E2=80=98Red Vines=E2=80=99
9.    =E2=80=98Susan=E2=80=99

=E2=80=9CThis is about getting out of high school or college and not kno= wing what to
do with yourself. Like most of you in a couple years. (laughter)

10.    =E2=80=98Hanging Around=E2=80=99
11.    =E2=80=98Long Shot=E2=80=99
12.    =E2=80=98Calling It Quits=E2=80=99

ENCORE.

=E2=80=9COoh. (picks up gifts from crowd) I got flowers. And candy. It= =E2=80=99s like a
date. (laughter, tunes her guitar) I=E2=80=99m going to sleep with you a= ll at the
end of the show. (wild applause, cheering) Wow, even the girls cheered.
Thank you.=E2=80=9D

1.    =E2=80=98Wise Up=E2=80=99

=E2=80=9CThis is another one from the Magnolia soundtrack. The last one.= =E2=80=9D

2.    =E2=80=98Deathly=E2=80=99

=E2=80=9CThanks, you guys have been absolutly wonderful"

-cjwallis



Welcome CJ, this is a cool post. Wow, whatever cold pills Aimee was on t= hat
night, kind of revved her up a little. It sounds like she was a litt= le punchy
from the cold, and no disrespect is meant by that. I haven't h= eard her be
like this for years in concert, and it's cool that she's so=20= spirted again.
Make you wonder what she'll be like at the AV shows, and=20= will Michael be the
same.
Andrea --part1_de.d8b9bf6.2766891f_boundary-- >From howard@thewebpen.net Mon Dec 11 14:54:01 2000 Received: from inviteinternet.com (host.inviteinternet.com [209.239.40.56] (may be forged)) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA11735 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:54:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from DEXTER (maul.cravetechnology.com [166.93.94.93]) by inviteinternet.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id eBBKrie25912 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:53:44 -0500 Message-ID: <002c01c063b4$71b67560$070c0b0a@DEXTER> From: "Howard Semones" To: Subject: Download Aimee on Rolling Stone.com Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:53:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C06379.B0332B70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: howard@thewebpen.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C06379.B0332B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If none of you have heard Red Vines, you really should coz it's what I = call quite good. :-) Rolling Stone.com has the song for download on it's site. Here's the = link: http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/dds/artist.asp?afl=3D&Artist=3D12996= //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If the world isn't a cartoon, then why am I so animated? http://www.thewebpen.net http://www.improvinc.org \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C06379.B0332B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C06379.B0332B70-- >From eclectic_eel@yahoo.com Mon Dec 11 16:17:35 2000 Received: from web9609.mail.yahoo.com (web9609.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.188]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id QAA20994 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:17:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001211221702.39268.qmail@web9609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.201.169] by web9609.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:17:02 PST Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:17:02 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Landon Subject: OT: Paul's Prison Colony Observations... To: Aimee Mann listproc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: eclectic_eel@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Tony raises an interssting point - regarding the slight cultural differences among those 3 English speaking land masses... Elaborating (slightly), I think the "drab"ness that Aussies and Americans left - and the circumstances under which both did - go a long way in explaining, partially and as a case by case - case...think about this for a moment - while also pondering the relative angst of the average mannlister... American colonials left - with a grand plan of some utopian freedom for their new world - Australian colonials...well - they were put there, with a grand...Uhh, sentence ? Both leaving behind the same parochial world of origin...and given these facts - is it that most American form of angst and cynicism - compared to that Australian optimism...Is it that both cultures had a starting point - one so ideal that it could only fall short of expectations - while the other, so dreadful, that the only way to go was UP ? Could THAT begin to explain it...? And while everybody's remembering Herr Lennon and his coleopterans - I have to disagree slightly, and say - why YES dear John, ther ARE problems. There are ALSO solutions - but make no mistake...PROBLEMS! Angrily American, and shaking fists at PROBLEMS, PROBLEMS...ALL THESE PROBLEMS!!! e. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Mon Dec 11 17:31:35 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f154.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.154]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA27006 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:31:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:31:04 -0800 Received: from 24.237.115.14 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:31:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.115.14] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Fwd: HUB Concert Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:31:04 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2000 23:31:04.0926 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E2B77E0:01C063CA] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ohmigoodness, no one flamed Aimee her *junior high* sexual innuendo! Doesn't she know Mannlist protocol??! >From: "cjwallis" Subject: HUB Concert Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:59:15 -0800 >>ENCORE. > >“Ooh. (picks up gifts from crowd) I got flowers. And candy. It’s like a >date. (laughter, tunes her guitar) I’m going to sleep with you all at the >end of the show. (wild applause, cheering) Wow, even the girls cheered. >Thank you.” > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From info@paulmelancon.com Mon Dec 11 17:46:19 2000 Received: from goliath2.primary-server.net (goliath2.primary-server.net [216.71.84.13]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA27999 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:46:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from cc807453a (cc807453-a.chmbl1.ga.home.com [24.4.119.78]) by goliath2.primary-server.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA30063 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:46:22 -0600 From: "Paul Melancon" To: Subject: RE: (not OT or PO, but sorta XXX) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:44:14 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: info@paulmelancon.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Well, no one said it was a topic... but my favorite AV moment from the Atlanta show was Patton introduing "Black Box" by saying it was a song about pussy. Michael then tried to start the song about 4 times and kept having his voice go, and he kept making references to the whole "pussy" thing, at which point Aimee said "I think I've only heard you say 'pussy' 3 times since I've met you, and all of them were tonight..." very funny, and so seemingly atypical for both of them.. -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Paul Barras Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 1:45 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Thanks, Nadja and Mike! Great to heare about the shows. Mr. Nelson, you were supposed to bring Aimee some chicken soup! A can of Campbell's soup would have been fine even, just not thrown at the stage a la red vines candy. To Tony and others wondering, Aimee and Michael receive shared, equal billing for AV shows (despite one Colorado venue's tix that showed Michael opening for Aimee). I think that is why Aimee always opens with the first song in their 1-1-3-3-5-5 format so Penn's appearance won't be misconstrued. Frankly, I find the comedians/comediennes as a nice diversion. We have heard all of Aimee and Penn's songs backwards (you guys have WAY too much time on your hands or just ultra-devoted) and forwards-- both live and studio versions so it adds something original to the mix. I also think Aimee performs BETTER when she is having fun, and she has way more fun when her husband is on the road with her, professionally speaking of course. Additionally, the Penns get a huge kick out of their comedians. So, Mike, I can answer for Sean, "I have enjoyed Aimee's AV shows much more than her solo shows." Every solo show I have been to (looking back in retrospect) has been more by-the-numbers. My favorite AV and Aimee conc ert moment PERIOD was their little Gracie-GeorgeBurns-esque bit poking fun at John Davidson's book. I am going to try and find out this week what show(s) the live AV album is culled from as well as when and where the Town Hall show is. I hope I can get a date on the premiere of the Ghost World video too! I also want to ask Hausman if Aimee is contributing any music to the ANNIVERSARY PARTY film that Penn is scoring. Nadja, thanks so much for helping out. Illness, distance and other considerations prevented several members in the Northwest form turning out to *show Aimee love* and, apparently, she was feeling a bit frisky, DAMMIT! So that flowers and candy ruse REALLY works with women?!! Men just need a wink! Oh, they have an HBO store at buy.com for X-mas shopping. They have Sopranos and Sex in the City gift sets but no OZ!!! I was all prepared to register and tell folks to get me the OZ box set that surely comes with soap on a rope and snazzy orange jumpsuits for home dress-up... Missed opportunities. Sharon, I was going to suggest we play "Escaped Horny Convict-Sexy Hostage"--I was going to be the hostage. I have another CDNow coupon for anyone interested. Paul ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From jillpw@hotmail.com Mon Dec 11 18:47:36 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f301.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.179]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA11015 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:47:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:47:04 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:47:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: AV - Town Hall NYC Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:47:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2000 00:47:04.0532 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BE82140:01C063D5] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I spoke with someone at Town Hall who told me that he believes the AV shows will be on January 22nd and 23rd but they haven't been officially listed yet. We should have confirmation of the dates from Aimee's management tomorrow. Jill _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From xcandescent@yahoo.com Mon Dec 11 20:06:22 2000 Received: from web3407.mail.yahoo.com (web3401.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.55]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id UAA16070 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:06:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001212020545.21962.qmail@web3407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.33.152.19] by web3401.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:05:45 PST Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:05:45 -0800 (PST) From: Void Letter Subject: Selfishness, and Birchmere Show To: Aimee Mann listproc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: xcandescent@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN re: not wanting Aimee to be popular: Your argument rests on the assumption that, if Aimee is more popular, she would be FORCED to play bigger venues, i.e. stadiums, etc. I don't know Aimee, but if I was to venture a guess based on recent history, I seriously doubt she'd allow herself to be forced into anything. ;) She and Michael will probably continue to do whatever they're comfortable with, regardless of what other people want them to do. So I wouldn't worry about that. And speaking of intimate venues ... I saw Aimee the last time she came to the Birchmere in Washington D.C., and now she's back there again relatively soon. As soon as I get paid this weekend, I plan on getting tickets -- I just haven't figured out to what night. Any Mannlisters wanna get together for a Birchmere show? -XCN- > From: john > Subject: Public Service Announcement: Hey! Quit > trying to make Aimee more > popular! > > I would like to point out that while Aimee having a > huge following > and massive recognition/popularity may seem like a > good idea, > consider this. > > Where would you rather see a world-class act? I > mean world class - > like the Beatles or Nirvana or ...Aimee Mann? (as > respects my first > two choices, I obviously mean before the genius in > the band had left > us...) So where? In a huge auditorium or in an > intimate club? > > As they are a world class act, if you want to see > them in an intimate > club, you'd better know someone or be willing to pay > a ransom to see > them. And even in a big stadium, good seats can set > you back. > > Next question. Would it be more cool if only you > and a *relatively* > small group realized the act was world class? I > mean you could > approach them after a show and get an autograph or a > photo taken with > them. No bodyguards, no hassles. Just like they > were your personal > friend. > > Well, we can see one of the coolest and greatest > world class acts in > small venues and even get personal contact. Why do > you want to > change this? > > Stop with the posters, etc, already! We've got one > of the best > things going in the history of rock by being able to > get to see/hear > and even know Aimee in intimate settings. Please > *leave it as it is!* > > Shhh!!! Keep it to yourself and your friends!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Tue Dec 12 00:34:01 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f307.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.182]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA04845 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:34:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:33:29 -0800 Received: from 24.237.121.251 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:33:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.121.251] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Town Hall Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:33:29 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2000 06:33:29.0730 (UTC) FILETIME=[70D9A620:01C06405] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I can't remember if Andy mentioned this is his post, but there will be at least TWO shows at Town Hall. January 22nd and 23rd according to Aimee's management. There is the possibility of a third show on January 24th, sooooo tell all your friends and let's promote it. If they add more shows that means more opportunities to possibly reward our hard working volunteers with tickets. Another chance for Aimee to play Saturday Night Live??? As for the whole "Small Box Box" issue, the word *pussy* isn't exactly a common word around my household either. Not unlike Penn,` I've used it just a few times in my life. Like Alex Rodriguez is a pussy; Kemp is a ...; Galloway is a...; Randy Johnson is a ...; Griffey... There's a bunch of them at Interscope too. >From: "Paul Melancon" > Aimee said "I think I've only heard you say 'pussy' 3 >times since I've met you, and all of them were tonight..." > >very funny, and so seemingly atypical for both of them.. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From russn@thestandard.com Tue Dec 12 12:22:01 2000 Received: from mail.thestandard.com (mail.thestandard.net [209.0.34.132]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA23091 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:21:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from [172.16.11.103] (172.16.11.103 [172.16.11.103]) by mail.thestandard.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 4G9X0D26; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:15:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: russn@mail.thestandard.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:33:23 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Russ Nordmeyer Subject: Petaluma Cc: markustim@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: russn@thestandard.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey kids, The set list in Petaluma was exactly the same as the show at the HUB Theater in Seattle (at least, it was darn close - I didn't take notes). Aimee was in fine voice, even though she clearly is still battling a cold. She coughed several times between songs and was drinking hot tea throughout the show. She said she had a bit of a cold, and then said, "So I'm a little phlegmy, what of it?!" Highlights from last night include the triple-threat of "Long Shot," "Sugarcoated," and "Ghost World." Aimee played electric guitar on all three. "Deathly" was also fierce, especially when she got to the part "You're on your honor..." "Wise Up" is the sound of one heart breaking. Ouch. I also can't believe how achingly beautiful "How Am I Different" can be - the version last night was slowed down, and had an almost country-twinge to it. After the show, Salt and I and Alex talked with Michael Hausman (one of the nicest fellows you could ever want to meet) for quite a while. A few news tidbits: (1).Looks like Town Hall (NYC) will be January 22nd and 23rd. Jill will most likely confirm this today. (2). The European version of "Bachelor" will most likely have a new bonus track (and I can't for the life of me remember the name of the song...something like "Backtrack," or "Backstep" or "Backflip," or something. Salt?), as well as "Save Me" and the video for "Save Me." Potentially, one track will be deleted from the current version of the disc to make room for the bonus materials. The European version should be available in February. (3). "Ghost World": M.H. said the video for "Ghost World" is amazing. Hopefully, we'll be able to stream it from aimeemann.com soon. There may also be an MP3 made available for a new, acoustic version of "Ghost World." (4). It is clear that Michael Hausman is very appreciative of the Mannlist and our efforts. He said he loved the photos of Mannlisters at Alex's site, and really appreciates the efforts of everyone in helping to promote Aimee and to give her a strong web presence. That's about it for now. Tonight's show should be incredible - the Fillmore is a great venue, and the vibe in the place alone should make for a great show. Russ >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Tue Dec 12 14:27:51 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f145.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.145]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA04921 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:27:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:27:19 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:27:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: ARod (Re: Town Hall) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:27:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2000 20:27:19.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED35CB80:01C06479] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Paul said: >As for the whole "Small Box Box" issue, the word *pussy* isn't exactly a >common word around my household either. Not unlike Penn,` >I've used it >just a few times in my life. Like Alex Rodriguez is a >pussy... So were you calling ARod a rich pussy after yesterday's news.??? OH MY GAWD, I wish I could call him my boyfriend. haha Wondering how I could spend $25 mil/year in Texas... ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister "Though you pay for the hand they're shaking Speeches and the mistakes they're making As they struggle with the undertaking of simple thought" Aimee Mann "You're With Stupid Now" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From diri.gini@virgin.net Tue Dec 12 14:37:25 2000 Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA06315 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:37:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.253.40.8]) by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001212203936.LNDN255.mta1-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:39:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c0647a$c901cce0$0828fd3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: "Mannlist" References: <3a3401e9.4bf9.0@connexus.net.au> Subject: Re: My parole officer Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:11:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi Tony, Sorry not have replied before, but I feel like I've been living throught my computer recently and needed to find something else to do for a while. > Mr Dunny? Oh, touche! Though you'd like that. :-) > I've been to the UK a couple of times and spent 18 months living and working > in London 1986-1988. I had a fantastic time! I'm glad you liked it; it's no a bad place when all's said and done. > But don't you think it a little > ironic that you chose to send your "criminals" (unwanted and starving irish > mostly) Ironic, yes. Mostly Irish, no. A higher proprtion of them were Irish that the general population, but most were still working class Brits; union people etc. > to live out the terms of their natural lives in this big land of beaches > and sunshine while the rest of you stayed in drab, dreary, damp and over-crowded > Blightey. I'm lucky, I learned to love my country before I learned to love my comforts. ;-) (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From diri.gini@virgin.net Tue Dec 12 14:37:28 2000 Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA06325 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:37:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.253.40.8]) by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001212203939.LNDX255.mta1-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:39:39 +0000 Message-ID: <000301c0647a$cb228a00$0828fd3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: <3a340d80.68f3.0@connexus.net.au> Subject: Re: Acoustic Vaudeville Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:42:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > Ian, > > Yours is an interesting observation on Michael Penn's participation in concert > with Aimee Mann. Only two days ago I got to hear one of these Acoustic Vaudeville > shows for the first time thanks to a generous mannlister sending it to me on > CD-R. I have to say that I found the format a little bit tedious and the "commedian" > irritating rather than funny. It all served to detract from Aimee Mann (who > was the star of the show, right - or does Michael Penn get equal billing?). The show was billed as Accoustic Vaudeville and I knew before I went in that it was half and half. I just feel that since Aimee went on to tour on her own while Michael worked on his soundtrack, we could have been given Aimee only shows; because Michael has shown no further interest in us and it was Aimee who we went to see. Our comedian was Patton Oswald and he did crack one or two funnies, he was generally loud and crude. He introduced two or three songs by saying they were about pussy, which was funny first time round, but palled on me. Personally, I like my humour playfull rather than in-your-face; I won't pay to have someone bawl at me like an adolescent. > I was wondering whether it was a case of "you had to be there" to appreciate > the looseness of it all. Your comments seem to confirm my overall impression, > albeit with limited exposure to the concept, that it just didn't work. I'm sure if I were familiar with Michael's work I'd have enjoyed it more, but I had to listen quite hard, whereas with Aimee I could and did slip into the groove. > No doubt those in the audience with more knowledge of Penn's material might > have a different view. Prior to hearing this show I had only heard one song > - "Perfect Candidate" ( a Napster download)so maybe I'll appreciate it a bit > more as my familiarity with the Penn material grows. I hadn't heard a note before I went in and I was interested enough to try and buy the CD, but they quickly sold out. I did enjoy myself, I just wasn't scraping the clouds, that's all. > Tony Iremonger aka "The Flaming Dingo" !?!?!?!? I thought dingos coulldn't bark, woof woof. :-) (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Tue Dec 12 15:21:59 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA11545 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:21:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBCLH2i25874; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:17:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3695D3.208@ucdavis.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:17:07 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001210 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: russn@thestandard.com CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Petaluma References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Russ, I was taking notes if you didn't see me with my scrap of paper and a pen, and the setlist for the Petaluma show was exactly the same as the HUB one. This is my first rock concert, not just my first Aimee one, and I really enjoyed myself there even though standing for 4 and a half hours during the concert did test my feet a little. For someone with a cold Aimee is amazing, but since this is my first concert I don't have anything it compare it with, other than it was really fun and the venue was really small. Sometime during the show someone asked what she thought of Petaluma, and Aimee just gestured with her hands to the space and people in front of her and said "This is all I've seen of Petaluma ... and it's great!" It was also really neat just to finally meet some of the Mannlisters, Russ, Salt, and some others who I forgot their names. I also got to meet Michael Hausman and John Sand, they're both great. I was a bit surprised when Michael mentioned the Mannlisters page that I maintain, I was thinking to myself "wow, I'm getting compliments from someone close to Aimee!" Russ, and everyone else, the new song is called "Backfire." -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Tue Dec 12 16:53:11 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA18923 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:53:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBCMrGi14545 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:53:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A36AC5F.7060404@ucdavis.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:53:19 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Petaluma References: <3A3695D3.208@ucdavis.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I forgot a few more comments. Grant-Lee Philips was funny, and I enjoyed watching his performance and songs since he opened for Aimee's show. And I loved how Aimee introduced "Calling It Quits" as her "theme-song." -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Tue Dec 12 18:29:38 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f73.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.73]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA06074 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:29:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:29:04 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:29:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Waaaay OT: Victoria's Secret & Mademoiselle 1/01 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:29:03 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2000 00:29:04.0009 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2472790:01C0649B] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi guys and girls, Check out p. 102 of the new issue of Mademoiselle (Jan. '01) for a Victoria's Secret coupon good for 1 pair of white seamless panties, valued at $12. FREE VICKIE'S LINGERIE, can't beat that! And you get it on the spot at the store, no mail-away nonsense. I know there are others who look for a good deal, so check it out. The magazine costs $3, and this is a limited-supply offer, so act quickly. It's totally worth it! :-) ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister "Though you pay for the hand they're shaking Speeches and the mistakes they're making As they struggle with the undertaking of simple thought" Aimee Mann "You're With Stupid Now" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 12 18:35:37 2000 Received: from imo-r13.mail.aol.com (imo-r13.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA07218 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:35:34 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.86.42d80ab (664) for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:34:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <86.42d80ab.27681e1f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:34:39 EST Subject: You Know Aimee's Made It When.... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_86.42d80ab.27681e1f_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_86.42d80ab.27681e1f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit She turns up in an article about the Backstreet Boys and N'Synk(SP?)-seriously. I'm not sure I really understand this article that is from last weeks Village Voice, written by Jane Dark, but she seems to be saying that the reason that both bands are on the way out is because teens are finally beginning to realize that the guy who writes their songs, Max Martin, is beign phased out for not writing better ones for both bands, and Britney as well. I can't write the article out fully, it's too long, but do a search of the Voice's music section at village voice.com. So where does Aimee fit into all this, this where I'll quote from the article: 'In an ideal world, there would only be great teenpop records, and they would sell like hotcakes, and then everyone would mail 3$ to Yo La Tengo and Aimee Mann out of the goodness of the shape of their hearts.' Shape of the Heart, or something like that, is a song title from BB, and Dark is making fun of it. The thing is, there really hasn't been any good teenpop around for years, although it's worth noting that the Beatles started out as a 'teenpop' band. In an ideal world, Aimee would be teenpop of the best kind, with B#2, still on Superego/Musicians United, as would Michael Penn, and if Jon Brion can find a way to release his album, him too. Andrea --part1_86.42d80ab.27681e1f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit She turns up in an article about the Backstreet Boys and
N'Synk(SP?)-seriously.
I'm not sure I really understand this article that is from last weeks Village
Voice, written by Jane Dark, but she seems to be saying that the reason that
both bands are on the way out is because teens are finally beginning to
realize that the guy who writes their songs, Max Martin, is beign phased out
for not writing better ones for both bands, and Britney as well.  I can't
write the article out fully, it's too long, but do a search of the Voice's
music section at village voice.com.
So where does Aimee fit into all this, this where I'll quote from the
article: 'In an ideal world, there would only be great teenpop records, and
they would sell like hotcakes, and then everyone would mail 3$ to Yo La Tengo
and Aimee Mann out of the goodness of the shape of their hearts.'  Shape of
the Heart, or something like that, is a song title from BB, and Dark is
making fun of it.
The thing is, there really hasn't been any good teenpop around for years,
although it's worth noting that the Beatles started out as a 'teenpop' band.
In an ideal world, Aimee would be teenpop of the best kind, with B#2, still
on Superego/Musicians United, as would Michael Penn, and if Jon Brion can
find a way to release his album, him too.
Andrea

--part1_86.42d80ab.27681e1f_boundary-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 12 22:40:06 2000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA26315 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:40:05 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.87.4334f86 (3948) for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:39:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <87.4334f86.2768577f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:39:27 EST Subject: You're No Rock And Roll Fun To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_87.4334f86.2768577f_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_87.4334f86.2768577f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GW Bush seems to have win, according to the Supreme Court, as there seems to be no way a recount can be done in time for Gore. Shit! The Sleater-Kinny song of the subject line is how I feel. Andrea --part1_87.4334f86.2768577f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GW Bush seems to have win, according to the Supreme Court, as there seems to
be no way a recount can be done in time for Gore.
Shit!  The Sleater-Kinny song of the subject line is how I feel.
Andrea --part1_87.4334f86.2768577f_boundary-- >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Tue Dec 12 23:48:50 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA01401 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:48:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from [205.153.104.242] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 12-Dec-2000 23:47:21 -0600 Date: 12 Dec 2000 23:46:34 -0600 Message-ID: <-1235457756jsteinmann@clynch.com> Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jack Steinmann Subject: re: Waaaay OT: Victoria's Secret To: CC: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id XAA01402 X-Sender: Jack Steinmann X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was going to say something, but I won't. Paul can guess what I won't say. Jack Kristina Wilcox wrote: >Hi guys and girls, > >Check out p. 102 of the new issue of Mademoiselle (Jan. '01) for a >Victoria's Secret coupon good for 1 pair of white seamless panties, >valued at $12. FREE VICKIE'S LINGERIE, can't beat that! >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Wed Dec 13 01:47:38 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f146.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.146]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA09648 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:47:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:47:07 -0800 Received: from 24.237.129.42 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:47:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.129.42] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: re: Waaaay OT: Victoria's Secret Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:47:06 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2000 07:47:07.0061 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4329E50:01C064D8] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Actually, I was thinking, "hmmmm, at the next concert, Aimee gets candy, flowers AND panties." What would she think?! Probably something like, "Gee, offer to sleep with a few thousand people and you get labeled." {Don't get your panties in a bunch, my prudish brethren, I'm sure they're not crotchless}. Unless...Kristina, did say they were half off??? Russ, you lucky devil!! Two shows! Are you coming East?!! Thanks for the info, and yes yes yes, Hausman is just a great fellow. It's nice to be appreciated. Paul >From: Jack Steinmann >Date: 12 Dec 2000 23:46:34 -0600 > >I was going to say something, but I won't. > >Paul can guess what I won't say. > >Jack > >Kristina Wilcox wrote: > >Hi guys and girls, > > > >Check out p. 102 of the new issue of Mademoiselle (Jan. '01) for a > >Victoria's Secret coupon good for 1 pair of white seamless panties, > >valued at $12. FREE VICKIE'S LINGERIE, can't beat that! > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Wed Dec 13 02:49:18 2000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA11209 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:49:17 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.4f.4b22cb2 (1839) for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 03:48:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4f.4b22cb2.276891ed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 03:48:45 EST Subject: Aimee at the Fillmore To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 126 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Just made it home from the Fillmore show in San Francisco. This was the best Aimee show that I have ever seen (out of the four that I have seen). Aimee was in great spirts and sounded fantastic. Highlights for me: Solo acoustic set of "It's Not Safe" and the "4th of July" A very loud and blistering "Long Shot" A very unexpected second encore of "I've Had It" and "Stupid Thing" (this alone was worth the price of admission) The set list: 1. "One" 2. "Choice in the Matter" 3. "That's Just What You Are" 4. "How Am I Different" 5. "Save Me" 6. "It's Not Safe" 7. "4th of July" 8. "Red Vines" 9. "Susan" 10. "Ghost World" 11. "Long Shot" 12. "Sugarcoated" 13. "Calling It Quits" First Encore: 1. "Wise Up" 2. "Deathly" Second Encore: 1. "I've Had It" 2. "Stupid Thing" Still no "Mr. Harris," but I quibble. This was a great show! Thank you Aimee! Steve >From 103125.1703@compuserve.com Wed Dec 13 08:45:49 2000 Received: from spdmgaae.compuserve.com (ds-img-5.compuserve.com [149.174.206.138]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA01073 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:45:48 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaae.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id JAA06931 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:45:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:44:48 -0500 From: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> Subject: Tour 2001-Grammy Considerations? Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu To: Mannlist Message-ID: <200012130945_MC2-BE69-6754@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id IAA01074 Reply-To: 103125.1703@compuserve.com X-Sender: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Do you think the latest swing through the East Coast in January is an optimistic sign that they expect Grammy nominations? Otherwise Aimee has been through with this batch of music a few times and has already gotten a lot of press for it. I'm not complaining, but it seems unusual to bring the same tour back for another encore. >From geoffl@pacbell.net Wed Dec 13 13:19:48 2000 Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA21538 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:19:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from pacbell.net ([206.170.33.168]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G5I001LDSCY63@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:51:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:53:36 -0800 From: Geoff Subject: Re: Aimee at the Fillmore To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Cc: Mannlist Message-id: <3A37C5B0.3D3FB758@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD compaq (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <4f.4b22cb2.276891ed@aol.com> Reply-To: geoffl@pacbell.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I second Steve's raves about the show. I think it's a tribute to how incredible Aimee is that she can even be sick and put on a show like that. Furthermore, if anyone really believed the rationale for the comedians with AV - that she's lousy at stage banter - last night's show blew that one out of the water. Random recollections: Aimee introducing "Save Me" as the song that wasn't quite good enough (a reference to its being nosed out of winning the best song Oscar by the Phil Collins thing). Declaring that "It's not Safe" needed an appropriately depressing lead-in, and telling us that the Supreme Court had ruled for Bush. "Now we're in for 4 years of comedy," she quipped. Requesting the band to do a blues jam to cover for her having to blow her nose, then kidding them about it for the rest of the show. BTW the band consisted of Michael Lockwood on guitar, Jebin on keyboards, John Sands on drums, and Paul Bryan (sp?) on bass. Although "It's Not Safe" and "4th of July" were most strongly acoustic, the following two - "Red Vines" and "Susan" were delightfully sparse and different from the recorded versions. She didn't really return to an electric sound till "Ghost World", and by "Sugarcoated" had a new burst of energy, acquired an endearing smile and did a sort of dance with Lockwood as he soloed. Unfortunately her voice sort of faded in and out during "Calling It Quits", probably due to her cold. I wish the sound person had been more on the ball... I realized when I read cjwallis' review of HUB that, although this appearance was nominally to promote B#2, there was more earlier stuff than I would have expected. And last night's encores just put the icing on the cake. With 5 songs from IWS, Whatever had been represented only by "4th of July". Hearing "I've Had It" and "Stupid Thing" as bonuses was a real treat. BTW she dedicated the latter "to Paul" - OK sonichawk, is that you??? Looking forward (vicariously) to the Sun Amphitheatre... Geoff Oakland, CA >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Wed Dec 13 13:20:07 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f65.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA21602 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:20:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:19:36 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:19:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Nylon magazine Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:19:35 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2000 19:19:36.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[A15CD210:01C06539] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ms. Mann is featured in the latest issue of Nylon (Dec/Jan). The article consists of edited e-mail correspondence between the author and AM after they met at one of her '95 shows. They talk about all sorts of stuff, including crushes. On one e-mail, AM signed off with "Crushingly". :-) Nylon has a website, but last time I checked, the article wasn't up (www.nylonmag.com). A twenty-something actress is on the mag's cover (Katie Holmes, if I recall correctly), and the AM article is accompanied by a sketched likeness. ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister "Though you pay for the hand they're shaking Speeches and the mistakes they're making As they struggle with the undertaking of simple thought" Aimee Mann "You're With Stupid Now" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Wed Dec 13 14:41:30 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA00462 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:41:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBDKfZi16825 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:41:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A37DF04.3040409@ucdavis.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:41:40 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001213 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Who's who with Aimee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Watching Aimee perform at the Petaluma concert (I still can't get this out of my head!) reminded me of something. I've the names such as Jon Brion, Michael Lockwood, and other names but I have no clue what they look like. And who were those two guitarist that flanked Aimee during almost the entire show? Someday, I hope, at a future Aimee concert near me I may meet some of these people and I would like to know their names and faces so I wouldn't have to guess (at least not so randomly). Thanks. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From emilyslist@hotmail.com Wed Dec 13 15:41:42 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f142.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.142]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA06282 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:41:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:41:10 -0800 Received: from 216.103.105.132 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:41:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.103.105.132] From: "emily *****" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Fillmore SF 12/12/00 setlist Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:41:10 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2000 21:41:10.0912 (UTC) FILETIME=[68A84800:01C0654D] Reply-To: emilyslist@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN greetings from a new list subscriber. below is an almost-complete setlist from last night's show at the Fillmore Auditorium in SF. apologies if it has already been posted - haven't seen any mailings from today. another disclaimer: i am not familiar with all of Aimee Mann's material, so i don't know what the second song was & could not match the lyrics to anything posted on http://www.skepsis.com/Chords/Aimee/ . tone was (surprise, surprise) somewhat mournful and i'd swear the chorus repeated a line that started with "even if you" and "even if I". does that ring any bells? =================== Aimee Mann Tuesday Dec. 12, 2000. Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco. [magnolia theme played as band entered] One [??? - song described above] That's Just What You Are How Am I Different [Aimee: "This is from _Magnolia_. This is the song that wasn't as good... oh, never mind. (crowd wants her to finish the statement) This is the song that wasn't as good as the cartoon monkey love song."] Save Me ["So just to get us all depressed enough for this next song, the Supreme Court reversed the Florida decision.... And me? I voted for Nader." (crowd reaction.) "Don't fuckin' blame me; I'll take you all one at a time in the lobby after the show.... Now we're getting into political fighting... Let's just be depressed, like we came for." ] It's Not Safe 4th of July [pause to blow nose - comments about mucus; Aimee asks band to play a "blues jam" to mask the sound of her blowing her nose] Red Vines Susan [Aimee: "And that was the day they almost rocked."] Ghost World Long Shot Sugarcoated Calling It Quits E1: Wise Up Deathly E2: I've Had it Stupid Thing ========================== show ran almost exactly 90 minutes - maybe 65 min for the set and then 25 for the encores. if anyone out there trades live music, i have a sizable collection of live music on DAT and CD and would love to trade for some live Aimee Mann shows in digital format. collection includes LOTS of Ani Difranco and Patti Smith as well as jazz, bluegrass, reggae, pop, rock, punk, funk, new wave, Grateful Dead, blues, folk... take care Emily _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From missy@honeybeepub.com Wed Dec 13 15:59:53 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA08124 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:59:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08691 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:59:51 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:01:20 -0800 Subject: Re: Fillmore SF 12/12/00 setlist From: Missy Roback To: "mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN the second song was "choice in the matter." it was a great show, but i'll agree with whoever said the soundperson wasn't paying attention. i thought the keyboard overpowered the lead guitar a few times and aimee was a bit low in the mix at times. aimee was very funny, though, and certainly does not need the help of a comedian (even tho i love patton). and because it was the fillmore, we all got aimee posters on the way out. (for those of you who've never been to the fillmore, the club puts out special illustrated posters commemorating the night's performers, a tradition it has carried on since the original fillmore. the posters are considered collectibles. the ones i've gotten at recent shows haven't been all that great-looking, but the aimee one is. it features red vines!) missy > greetings from a new list subscriber. > > below is an almost-complete setlist from last night's show at the Fillmore > Auditorium in SF. apologies if it has already been posted - haven't seen > any mailings from today. > > another disclaimer: i am not familiar with all of Aimee Mann's material, so > i don't know what the second song was & could not match the lyrics to > anything posted on > http://www.skepsis.com/Chords/Aimee/ . tone was (surprise, surprise) > somewhat mournful and i'd swear the chorus repeated a line that started with > "even if you" and "even if I". does that ring any bells? > > =================== > Aimee Mann Tuesday Dec. 12, 2000. Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco. > > [magnolia theme played as band entered] > One > [??? - song described above] > That's Just What You Are > How Am I Different > [Aimee: "This is from _Magnolia_. This is the song that wasn't as good... > oh, never mind. (crowd wants her to finish the statement) This is the > song that wasn't as good as the cartoon monkey love song."] > Save Me > ["So just to get us all depressed enough for this next song, the Supreme > Court reversed the Florida decision.... And me? I voted for Nader." > (crowd reaction.) "Don't fuckin' blame me; I'll take you all one at a time > in the lobby after the show.... Now we're getting into political > fighting... Let's just be depressed, like we came for." ] > It's Not Safe > 4th of July > [pause to blow nose - comments about mucus; Aimee asks band to play a > "blues jam" to mask the sound of her blowing her nose] > Red Vines > Susan > [Aimee: "And that was the day they almost rocked."] > Ghost World > Long Shot > Sugarcoated > Calling It Quits > > E1: Wise Up > Deathly > > E2: I've Had it > Stupid Thing > ========================== > show ran almost exactly 90 minutes - maybe 65 min for the set and then 25 > for the encores. > > if anyone out there trades live music, i have a sizable collection of live > music on DAT and CD and would love to trade for some live Aimee Mann shows > in digital format. collection includes LOTS of Ani Difranco and Patti Smith > as well as jazz, bluegrass, reggae, pop, rock, punk, funk, new wave, > Grateful Dead, blues, folk... > > take care > > Emily > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > _______ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Wed Dec 13 16:08:07 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f122.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.122]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA09232 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:08:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:07:35 -0800 Received: from 24.237.115.140 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:07:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.115.140] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee at the Fillmore Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:07:35 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2000 22:07:35.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[196C2CD0:01C06551] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN OH-MI-GOD!! It couldn't be! I have been waiting to hear STUPID THING, my favorite, for years!!!! I sort of begged her in a card I gave her with flowers at Villa Montalvo, but she didn't do it then nor before another show that I asked. Why would she wait until San Fran?!! (maybe since I was in the Bay Area for that, she figured...) Nah, it would have made more sense at HUB? I guess it *is* my song (I am constantly outsmarting only myself in every facet of life). Hey, this is really great. I will CLAIM that it was for me. Buuuuuut, if I find out it's PTA's favorite song too, I am going to scream! Hey Jill, she could have been sending me a message. *wince* Geoff, she didn't say perhaps, "To that whiny little nuiscance Paul"? Well, if she rolled her eyes, it was for me!!! Yippeee, Paul I'll call this a Christmas present! >From: Geoff >>Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:53:36 -0800 With 5 songs >from IWS, Whatever had been represented only by "4th of July". >Hearing "I've Had >It" and "Stupid Thing" as bonuses was a real treat. > >BTW she dedicated the latter "to Paul" - OK sonichawk, is that >you??? > >Looking forward (vicariously) to the Sun Amphitheatre... > > >Geoff >Oakland, CA > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 13 18:15:25 2000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA20644 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:15:24 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id l.23.4e200fb (4543); Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:13:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <23.4e200fb.27696ac6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:13:58 EST Subject: Re: Fillmore SF 12/12/00 setlist To: missy@honeybeepub.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_23.4e200fb.27696ac6_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_23.4e200fb.27696ac6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/13/00 5:00:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, missy@honeybeepub.com writes: > and because it was the fillmore, we all got aimee posters on the way out. > (for those of you who've never been to the fillmore, the club puts out > special illustrated posters commemorating the night's performers, a > tradition it has carried on since the original fillmore. the posters are > considered collectibles. the ones i've gotten at recent shows haven't been > all that great-looking, but the aimee one is. it features red vines!) > > Is there any way Missy, or some one who was at the Filmore show could put an image of the poster from the show on the web? I would love to see it, know how good the Filmore posters are. Andrea --part1_23.4e200fb.27696ac6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/13/00 5:00:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
missy@honeybeepub.com writes:


and because it was the fillmore, we all got aimee posters on the way out.
(for those of you who've never been to the fillmore, the club puts out
special illustrated posters commemorating the night's performers, a
tradition it has carried on since the original fillmore. the posters are
considered collectibles. the ones i've gotten at recent shows haven't been
all that great-looking, but the aimee one is. it features red vines!)



Is there any way Missy, or some one who was at the Filmore show could put an
image of the poster from the show on the web? I would love to see it, know
how good the Filmore posters are.
Andrea --part1_23.4e200fb.27696ac6_boundary-- >From russnordmeyer@earthlink.net Wed Dec 13 18:25:48 2000 Received: from mail.thestandard.com (mail.thestandard.net [209.0.34.132]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA28288 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:25:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from [172.16.11.103] (172.16.11.103 [172.16.11.103]) by mail.thestandard.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 4G9X00KQ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:19:06 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <23.4e200fb.27696ac6@aol.com> References: <23.4e200fb.27696ac6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:37:18 -0800 To: AWeiss4338@aol.com, missy@honeybeepub.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Russ Nordmeyer Subject: Re: Fillmore SF 12/12/00 setlist Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1235368249==_ma============" Reply-To: russnordmeyer@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --============_-1235368249==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I'll gladly host it if someone can scan the poster and email it to me. I put up the poster from the Seattle show (compliments of CJ Wallis) at: http://www.drivingsideways.com/live.html Russ At 7:13 PM -0500 12/13/00, AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 12/13/00 5:00:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, >missy@honeybeepub.com writes: > > >>and because it was the fillmore, we all got aimee posters on the way out. >>(for those of you who've never been to the fillmore, the club puts out >>special illustrated posters commemorating the night's performers, a >>tradition it has carried on since the original fillmore. the posters are >>considered collectibles. the ones i've gotten at recent shows haven't been >>all that great-looking, but the aimee one is. it features red vines!) >> > > >Is there any way Missy, or some one who was at the Filmore show could put an >image of the poster from the show on the web? I would love to see it, know >how good the Filmore posters are. >Andrea --============_-1235368249==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" I'll gladly host it if someone can scan the poster and email it to me. I put up the poster from the Seattle show (compliments of CJ Wallis) at: http://www.drivingsideways.com/live.html Russ At 7:13 PM -0500 12/13/00, AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: ArialIn a message dated 12/13/00 5:00:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, missy@honeybeepub.com writes: and because it was the fillmore, we all got aimee posters on the way out. (for those of you who've never been to the fillmore, the club puts out special illustrated posters commemorating the night's performers, a tradition it has carried on since the original fillmore. the posters are considered collectibles. the ones i've gotten at recent shows haven't been all that great-looking, but the aimee one is. it features red vines!) Is there any way Missy, or some one who was at the Filmore show could put an image of the poster from the show on the web? I would love to see it, know how good the Filmore posters are. Andrea Arial --============_-1235368249==_ma============-- >From missy@honeybeepub.com Wed Dec 13 19:24:35 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA03084 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:24:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA19336 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:24:33 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:26:02 -0800 Subject: Re: Fillmore SF 12/12/00 setlist From: Missy Roback To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3A381957.B70ED8C2@pacbell.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN sorry, it's too big for my scanner (which someone has borrowed, anyway). >> Is there any way Missy, or some one who was at the Filmore show >> could put an image of the poster from the show on the web? I >> would love to see it, know how good the Filmore posters are. >> Andrea > > It's 13" X 19", much too big for my scanner bed. Maybe Missy has > access to something bigger, or maybe there's some way to scan it > in sections, and then digitally reassemble it? > > > Geoff > > >From geoffl@pacbell.net Wed Dec 13 19:30:24 2000 Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA03702 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:30:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from pacbell.net ([206.170.33.3]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G5J00IFD8UNRQ@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:47:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:50:31 -0800 From: Geoff Subject: Re: Fillmore SF 12/12/00 setlist To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Cc: missy@honeybeepub.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Message-id: <3A381957.B70ED8C2@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD compaq (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <23.4e200fb.27696ac6@aol.com> Reply-To: geoffl@pacbell.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > Is there any way Missy, or some one who was at the Filmore show > could put an image of the poster from the show on the web? I > would love to see it, know how good the Filmore posters are. > Andrea It's 13" X 19", much too big for my scanner bed. Maybe Missy has access to something bigger, or maybe there's some way to scan it in sections, and then digitally reassemble it? Geoff >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Wed Dec 13 19:49:39 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA05613 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:49:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBE1nSi16055; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:49:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A382717.9020300@ucdavis.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:49:11 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001213 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, Geoff , Missy Roback Subject: Re: Fillmore SF 12/12/00 setlist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Geoff, that is indeed possible, I've done it several times before and it looks like it was scanned in one piece! I'll be willing to put it together if someone can scan it in sections and then send the images to me, but unfortunately I'll be gone and away from my computer for 2 weeks come Sunday. So if any of you guys can do this before Sunday then I can put the poster images together. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From Pianist2b@aol.com Wed Dec 13 19:56:10 2000 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA06022 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:56:09 -0600 (CST) From: Pianist2b@aol.com Received: from Pianist2b@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.f4.589cdc3 (9819) for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:55:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:55:27 EST Subject: Title Bachelor No 2 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: Pianist2b@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm new to the list.. but I was wondering what the title Last Remains of the Dodo means?! I've been wondering for a while!! Thanks! >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Wed Dec 13 19:59:07 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f294.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.169]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA06586 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:59:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:58:35 -0800 Received: from 24.237.128.44 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:58:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.128.44] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Cc: missy@honeybeepub.com, geoffl@pacbell.net Subject: digital photo??? Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:58:35 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2000 01:58:35.0710 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E796DE0:01C06571] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have an easier solution...maybe. Missy, how about taking that digital camera of yours and photographing the darn thing and sending it to Russ. Russ can post an actual picture of the darn poster. >From: Alex >Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:49:11 -0800 > >Geoff, that is indeed possible, I've done it several times >before and it looks like it was scanned in one piece! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From aidanjm@nex.net.au Wed Dec 13 22:39:43 2000 Received: from nex.com.au ([203.36.132.124]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA23029 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:39:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from aidanjm [203.109.243.98] by nex.com.au (SMTPD32-6.04) id AE201F30174; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:35:44 +1100 Message-ID: <007e01c06588$5d523480$62f36dcb@aidanjm> From: "Aidan Martin" To: "Aimee Mann list" Subject: Courtney Love Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:43:07 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007B_01C065E4.8E24D020" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: aidanjm@nex.net.au Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C065E4.8E24D020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you go the official Hole web-site you'll notice that Courtney Love = lists Bachelor #2 as one of her current fave CDs. Courtney also states = that: "Magnolia is truly one of the greatest movies ever made. Paul = Thomas Anderson is a god". http://www.hole.com/courtney/index.html She also has really cool taste in books, and recommends stuff like = "Sarah" by JT LeRoy. Aidan. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C065E4.8E24D020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you go the official Hole web-site you'll notice = that=20 Courtney Love lists Bachelor #2 as one of her current fave CDs. Courtney = also states that: "Magnolia is truly one of the greatest movies = ever made.=20 Paul Thomas Anderson is a god".
 
http://www.hole.com/cour= tney/index.html
 
She also has really cool taste in books, and = recommends stuff=20 like "Sarah" by JT LeRoy.
 
Aidan.
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C065E4.8E24D020-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 13 22:46:11 2000 Received: from imo-r17.mail.aol.com (imo-r17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA23659 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:46:09 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id y.7b.d81ddee (4322); Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:45:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7b.d81ddee.2769aa6c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:45:32 EST Subject: Re: Courtney Love To: aidanjm@nex.net.au, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7b.d81ddee.2769aa6c_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_7b.d81ddee.2769aa6c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit She's got the Magnolia video up at her site too for a pick hit. Andrea --part1_7b.d81ddee.2769aa6c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit She's got the Magnolia video up at her site too for a pick hit.
Andrea --part1_7b.d81ddee.2769aa6c_boundary-- >From ldphill@earthlink.net Wed Dec 13 22:46:12 2000 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA23671 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:46:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust236.tnt3.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.26.148.236]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA03255; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:45:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000001c06589$e69010e0$ec941a3f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: Subject: Re: Title Bachelor No 2 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:50:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Aimee has said she was searching for info on the web about the dodo for some reason, and came across a picture titled "The Last Remains of the Dodo" which was of, well, the last remains. She thought it kind of related to the plight of the singer/songwriter, which, like the dodo, appeared to be a dying breed. Welcome to the list! :) Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:55 PM Subject: Title Bachelor No 2 > I'm new to the list.. but I was wondering what the title Last Remains of the > Dodo means?! I've been wondering for a while!! Thanks! > > >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Wed Dec 13 23:01:36 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA24887 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:01:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBE51Wi08824; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:01:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A385413.3070203@ucdavis.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:01:07 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001213 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aidanjm@nex.net.au CC: Aimee Mann list Subject: Re: Courtney Love References: <007e01c06588$5d523480$62f36dcb@aidanjm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Aidan Martin wrote: > If you go the official Hole web-site you'll notice that Courtney Love > lists Bachelor #2 as one of her current fave CDs. Courtney also states > that: "Magnolia is truly one of the greatest movies ever made. Paul > Thomas Anderson is a god". These updates looks pretty recent. I've known that Bachelor #2 has been listed on her site for a while now, since June I think, but I never noticed Magnolia, or Boogie Nights, on the site before. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From cellophane808@hotmail.com Wed Dec 13 23:11:25 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f268.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.143]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA26006 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:11:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:10:52 -0800 Received: from 64.154.99.78 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:10:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.99.78] From: "Kelly Stitzel" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RS 2000 reader's poll Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:10:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2000 05:10:52.0300 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AD15CC0:01C0658C] Reply-To: cellophane808@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm sure you guys already know about this. Consider this a reminder. The address is www.rollingstone.com/2000readerspoll. Vote for Aimee in as many categories as you can, if you want to. I'm sure that no one we like will win anyway, music snobs that we are. ;) Kelly _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Wed Dec 13 23:13:53 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA26363 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:13:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBE5Dwi10243 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:13:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3856FC.9080904@ucdavis.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:13:32 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Mannlist Subject: Re: Title Bachelor No 2 References: <000001c06589$e69010e0$ec941a3f@elliott> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Lauren Phillips wrote: > Aimee has said she was searching for info on the web about the dodo for some > reason, and came across a picture titled "The Last Remains of the Dodo" > which was of, well, the last remains. She thought it kind of related to the > plight of the singer/songwriter, which, like the dodo, appeared to be a > dying breed. For some reason I thought that it may have something to do with the book "The Remains of the Day." ::shrug:: There goes my speculation, but it's nice to be enlightened :) -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From russnordmeyer@earthlink.net Thu Dec 14 00:49:08 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA07193 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:48:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from [209.179.251.65] (pool0320.cvx20-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.251.65]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18006; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:48:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012140648.WAA18006@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:45:19 -0800 Subject: Fillmore photos and poster From: "Russ Nordmeyer" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Geoff Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: russnordmeyer@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi Mannlisters, Hey, I've put up some pretty cool photos of Aimee from the show last night at the Fillmore, along with the poster they gave out free at the show. Check out: Thanks to Geoff for scanning the poster and sending it to me. I don't suppose anyone got an extra poster on their way out? By the time I left the venue they weren't passing them out. I'd love to get one, so if anyone has an extra, please email me offlist. Thanks! Russ P.S. If anyone would like to write an honest-to-goodness review of the show, I'd also love to post it. Geoff, mind if I post your notes? >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 14 02:23:24 2000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA12344 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:23:23 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id f.60.9b9cd3a (2612); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:22:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <60.9b9cd3a.2769dd56@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:22:46 EST Subject: Re: Fillmore photos and poster To: russnordmeyer@earthlink.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: geoffl@pacbell.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_60.9b9cd3a.2769dd56_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_60.9b9cd3a.2769dd56_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it just me, but does anyone think that Aimee looks a lot like Joni Mitchel. Maybe it's the way her hair is. Andrea --part1_60.9b9cd3a.2769dd56_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it just me, but does anyone think that Aimee looks a lot like Joni
Mitchel.  Maybe it's the way her hair is.
Andrea --part1_60.9b9cd3a.2769dd56_boundary-- >From missy@honeybeepub.com Thu Dec 14 02:37:18 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA12534 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:37:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA84884; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:37:12 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:38:42 -0800 Subject: Re: Fillmore photos and poster From: Missy Roback To: , , CC: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <60.9b9cd3a.2769dd56@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3059599122_1119978_MIME_Part" Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3059599122_1119978_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit yes, i noticed that last year. it's the mega-cheekbones. a cross between joni mitchell and daryl hannah. Is it just me, but does anyone think that Aimee looks a lot like Joni Mitchel. Maybe it's the way her hair is. Andrea --MS_Mac_OE_3059599122_1119978_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Fillmore photos and poster yes, i noticed that last year. it's the mega-cheekbones. a cross between jo= ni mitchell and daryl hannah.

Is it just me, but does anyone think that Aimee = looks a lot like Joni
Mitchel.  Maybe it's the way her hair is.
Andrea

--MS_Mac_OE_3059599122_1119978_MIME_Part-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 14 02:52:06 2000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA13265 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:52:06 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id l.5a.e5b19db (4407); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:51:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5a.e5b19db.2769e3f4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:51:00 EST Subject: Re: Fillmore photos and poster To: missy@honeybeepub.com, russnordmeyer@earthlink.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: geoffl@pacbell.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_5a.e5b19db.2769e3f4_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_5a.e5b19db.2769e3f4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 3:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, missy@honeybeepub.com writes: > yes, i noticed that last year. it's the mega-cheekbones. a cross between > joni mitchell and daryl hannah. > > Yeah Daryl too. Andrea --part1_5a.e5b19db.2769e3f4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 3:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,
missy@honeybeepub.com writes:


yes, i noticed that last year. it's the mega-cheekbones. a cross between
joni mitchell and daryl hannah.



Yeah Daryl too.
Andrea --part1_5a.e5b19db.2769e3f4_boundary-- >From pump@ofir.dk Thu Dec 14 03:54:55 2000 Received: from postfix1.forum.dk (IDENT:postfix@postfix1.forum.dk [195.249.237.205]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id DAA14518 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:54:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from webmail9.ofir.dk (webmail9.forum.dk [195.249.237.228]) by postfix1.forum.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D970DEC649 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:54:35 +0100 (CET) X-WM-Posted-At: webmail9.ofir.dk; Thu, 14 Dec 00 11:02:19 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:02:19 +0100 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Karsten Weldingh To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002117 Subject: The Crystal Lake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.51 Message-Id: <20001214095435.D970DEC649@postfix1.forum.dk> Reply-To: pump@ofir.dk X-Sender: Karsten Weldingh X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi mannlisters, sorry, this could be a FAQ (I am new to this list!). Anybody knowing of a Aimee Mann single called "The Crystal Lake" to be released 29. Jan. 2001 (in Scandinavia)? Cheers, Karsten >From mark.smith@readysteadyhost.com Thu Dec 14 04:03:10 2000 Received: from readysteadyhost.com (readysteadyhost.com [192.41.44.187]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id EAA14656 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 04:03:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from marks.napier.ac.uk (marks.napier.ac.uk [146.176.4.151]) by readysteadyhost.com (8.8.5) id DAA02024; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:03:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <005c01c065b5$38bd7440$9704b092@napier.ac.uk> From: "Mark M Smith" To: References: <20001214095435.D970DEC649@postfix1.forum.dk> Subject: Re: The Crystal Lake Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:04:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mark.smith@readysteadyhost.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN As far as I know The Crystal Lake is a Grandaddy song. Ikke? :-) Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Karsten Weldingh To: Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:02 AM Subject: The Crystal Lake > Hi mannlisters, > > sorry, this could be a FAQ (I am new to this list!). > > Anybody knowing of a Aimee Mann single called "The Crystal Lake" to be > released 29. Jan. 2001 (in Scandinavia)? > > Cheers, > Karsten > > >From pump@ofir.dk Thu Dec 14 07:37:45 2000 Received: from postfix1.forum.dk (IDENT:postfix@postfix1.forum.dk [195.249.237.205]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA02290 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:37:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from webmail9.ofir.dk (webmail9.forum.dk [195.249.237.228]) by postfix1.forum.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384CEEC09F for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:37:41 +0100 (CET) X-WM-Posted-At: webmail9.ofir.dk; Thu, 14 Dec 00 14:45:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:45:24 +0100 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Karsten Weldingh To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002117 Subject: RE: The Crystal Lake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.51 Message-Id: <20001214133741.384CEEC09F@postfix1.forum.dk> Reply-To: pump@ofir.dk X-Sender: Karsten Weldingh X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi Mark, check out: http://www.cdon.com/DK/index.phtml?prod_id=102543 it must be an error!?! Cheers, Karsten >From ltucker@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us Thu Dec 14 07:45:27 2000 Received: from relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net (relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net [38.9.152.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA02512 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:45:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from tch2.town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us ([38.233.155.102] helo=smtp.town.townofchapelhill.org) by relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 146YhK-0006v7-00; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:45:26 -0500 Received: by smtp.town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:44:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Larry Tucker To: "'russnordmeyer@earthlink.net'" Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RE: Fillmore photos and poster Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:44:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Reply-To: ltucker@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Great pictures Russ, especially those ones bathed in blue light. Kudos the photog person! -Larry |-----Original Message----- |From: Russ Nordmeyer [mailto:russnordmeyer@earthlink.net] |Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:45 AM |To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu |Cc: Geoff |Subject: Fillmore photos and poster | | |Hi Mannlisters, | |Hey, I've put up some pretty cool photos of Aimee from the |show last night |at the Fillmore, along with the poster they gave out free at |the show. Check |out: | | | |Thanks to Geoff for scanning the poster and sending it to me. I don't |suppose anyone got an extra poster on their way out? By the |time I left the |venue they weren't passing them out. I'd love to get one, so |if anyone has |an extra, please email me offlist. | |Thanks! | |Russ | |P.S. If anyone would like to write an honest-to-goodness |review of the show, |I'd also love to post it. Geoff, mind if I post your notes? | >From ltucker@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us Thu Dec 14 07:55:13 2000 Received: from relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net (relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net [38.9.152.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA03012 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:55:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from tch2.town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us ([38.233.155.102] helo=smtp.town.townofchapelhill.org) by relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 146Yqk-0001jp-00; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:55:10 -0500 Received: by smtp.town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:53:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Larry Tucker To: "'AWeiss4338@aol.com'" , russnordmeyer@earthlink.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Cc: geoffl@pacbell.net Subject: RE: Fillmore photos and poster Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:53:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C065D5.44372D00" Reply-To: ltucker@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C065D5.44372D00 Content-Type: text/plain I was thinking exactly the same thing. Certainly the stringy shoulder length blonde hair does it. And these pictures show similarities in those high cheek bones. -Larry wondering just how quickly Salt uses these "infinitely blue" ones -----Original Message----- From: AWeiss4338@aol.com [mailto:AWeiss4338@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:23 AM To: russnordmeyer@earthlink.net; mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Cc: geoffl@pacbell.net Subject: Re: Fillmore photos and poster Is it just me, but does anyone think that Aimee looks a lot like Joni Mitchel. Maybe it's the way her hair is. Andrea ------_=_NextPart_001_01C065D5.44372D00 Content-Type: text/html
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Certainly the stringy shoulder length blonde hair does it. And these pictures show similarities in those high cheek bones.
 
-Larry
 
wondering just how quickly Salt uses these "infinitely blue" ones
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Subject: Re: Fillmore photos and poster

Is it just me, but does anyone think that Aimee looks a lot like Joni
Mitchel.  Maybe it's the way her hair is.
Andrea
------_=_NextPart_001_01C065D5.44372D00-- >From mark.smith@readysteadyhost.com Thu Dec 14 08:16:30 2000 Received: from readysteadyhost.com (readysteadyhost.com [192.41.44.187]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA04217 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:16:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from marks.napier.ac.uk (marks.napier.ac.uk [146.176.4.151]) by readysteadyhost.com (8.8.5) id HAA16820; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:16:29 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <006c01c065d8$9c4542e0$9704b092@napier.ac.uk> From: "Mark M Smith" To: References: <20001214133741.384CEEC09F@postfix1.forum.dk> Subject: Re: The Crystal Lake Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:17:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mark.smith@readysteadyhost.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Yep, check out http://www.cdon.com/DK/index.phtml?prod_id=86482 Something has certainly gone wrong somewhere Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Karsten Weldingh To: Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:45 PM Subject: RE: The Crystal Lake > Hi Mark, > > check out: > > http://www.cdon.com/DK/index.phtml?prod_id=102543 > > it must be an error!?! > > > Cheers, > Karsten > > >From ficman@earthlink.net Thu Dec 14 08:26:22 2000 Received: from rmx614-mta.mail.com (rmx614-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.52]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA04942 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:26:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from web672-wrb (web672-wrb.mail.com [165.251.33.139]) by rmx614-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA04865 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:26:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <384002741.976803931795.JavaMail.root@web672-wrb> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:25:31 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Fickle To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Nice Pics Russ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WM-FaxTo: X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 208.200.241.21 Reply-To: ficman@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Very nice Pictures Russ.... I sure hope Aimee get's back to Chicago again soon.... >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Thu Dec 14 09:21:44 2000 Received: from web1401.mail.yahoo.com (web1401.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.165]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id JAA08276 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:21:43 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 7169 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2000 15:21:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20001214152142.7168.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.80] by web1401.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:21:42 PST Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:21:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: rolling stone reader poll To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1238433452-976807302=:4042" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1238433452-976807302=:4042 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ok we need a concensus for best single (so we don't split the votes) Calling it Quits or Red Vines? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1238433452-976807302=:4042 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii ok we need a concensus for best single (so we don't split the votes) Calling it Quits or Red Vines?


Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1238433452-976807302=:4042-- >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Thu Dec 14 09:26:42 2000 Received: from web1401.mail.yahoo.com (web1401.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.165]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id JAA08747 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:26:41 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 7988 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2000 15:26:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20001214152641.7987.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.80] by web1401.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:26:41 PST Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:26:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: rolling stone reader poll2 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-719885386-976807601=:7968" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-719885386-976807601=:7968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i just took the poll and it says you get 1 vote/ day - so vote every day, if you can --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-719885386-976807601=:7968 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii i just took the poll and it says you get 1 vote/ day - so vote every day, if you can


Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-719885386-976807601=:7968-- >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Thu Dec 14 11:41:00 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f272.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.147]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA20989 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:40:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:40:29 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:40:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: Sarah Harmer, Nelly Furtado Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:40:29 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2000 17:40:29.0816 (UTC) FILETIME=[F381A780:01C065F4] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Sarah Harmer made Time's Top 10 Albums of the Year. The writer called it the best debut of the year, with honoral mention going to Nelly Furtado http://www.time.com/time/sampler/article/0,8599,91092,00.html http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2000/12/1305.cfm ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister "Though you pay for the hand they're shaking Speeches and the mistakes they're making As they struggle with the undertaking of simple thought" Aimee Mann "You're With Stupid Now" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From jillpw@hotmail.com Thu Dec 14 12:11:07 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f151.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.151]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA27389 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:11:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:10:36 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:10:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: rolling stone reader poll Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:10:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2000 18:10:36.0566 (UTC) FILETIME=[2869D360:01C065F9] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I voted for Red Vines. Lisa Letostak wrote > >ok we need a concensus for best single (so we don't split the votes) >Calling it Quits or Red Vines? > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From geoffl@pacbell.net Thu Dec 14 12:52:29 2000 Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA14746 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:52:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from pacbell.net ([206.170.33.202]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G5K00A99MVY1A@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:47:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:51:54 -0800 From: Geoff Subject: Aimee on Late Late Show To: Mannlist Message-id: <3A3916CA.3A087756@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD compaq (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Reply-To: geoffl@pacbell.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The eternal question: is it tonight - actually in the wee hours of the 15th - or tomorrow night - the evening of the 15th, but really the 16th by the time the show comes on? My paper mentions Ashto Kutcher and Alicia Coppola for tonight, but not Aimee. Geoff Oakland, CA >From sharbear@epix.net Thu Dec 14 13:23:30 2000 Received: from lima.epix.net (lima.epix.net [199.224.64.56]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA25604 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:23:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from epix.net (svcr-adsl-209-74-0-23.epix.net [209.74.0.23]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with ESMTP id eBEJNQD11060 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:23:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A391DF4.F41D437E@epix.net> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:22:28 -0500 From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid X-Sender: "Sharon McDonnell Schmid" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist Subject: OT: George W. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sharbear@epix.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am??? Al's speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman. (sigh) Hey, I'm just wondering....I remember one of the mannlisters posting a list of quotes made by Bush. They were quite scary. Can anyone mail me a copy off-list or direct me to the site I can find them at? Thanks! sharon >From jillpw@hotmail.com Thu Dec 14 13:33:51 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f152.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.152]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA26509 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:33:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:33:20 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:33:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: geoffl@pacbell.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee on Late Late Show Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:33:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2000 19:33:20.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6E3D220:01C06604] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Friday Night!!!! Geoff wrote: >The eternal question: is it tonight - actually in the wee hours >of the 15th - or tomorrow night - _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From traister@julian.uwo.ca Thu Dec 14 13:35:14 2000 Received: from pony.its.uwo.ca (pony.its.uwo.ca [129.100.2.63]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA26663 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:35:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from art (btraister.arts.uwo.ca [129.100.20.112]) by pony.its.uwo.ca (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id eBEJZ8E12503 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:35:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20001214143436.00901970@julian.uwo.ca> X-Sender: traister@julian.uwo.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:34:36 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Bryce Traister Subject: Re: OT: George W. In-Reply-To: <3A391DF4.F41D437E@epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: traister@julian.uwo.ca Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN At 02:22 PM 12/14/00 -0500, you wrote: >Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am??? Al's >speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman. (sigh) I believe we're all with stupid now. bt >From cjwallis@home.com Thu Dec 14 13:36:31 2000 Received: from mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com (mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com [24.2.10.85]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA26794 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:36:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from cr305126a ([24.113.173.94]) by mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001214193624.JWFR1371.mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com@cr305126a> for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:36:24 -0800 From: "cjwallis" To: Subject: My vote. Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:37:14 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Reply-To: cjwallis@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Red Vines, I personally would, and will vote for. -cjwallis kid drinking fire productions www.kiddrinkingfire.com Ph: (604)574-5303 graphics designer www.ptanderson.com cigarettes & coffee the definitive ptanderson resource >From missy@honeybeepub.com Thu Dec 14 14:40:32 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA20427 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:40:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA43405; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:40:29 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:41:59 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: George W. From: Missy Roback To: , mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3A391DF4.F41D437E@epix.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN depressed? yep. but you know, the comedians are going to have a LOT of material to work with over the next 4 years. i'm gonna have to start watching leno more often. sharon, i sent you a few of those bush quotes, but my email crashed and i lost everything. i do have a new list of florida bumper stickers that i'll email you offlist! missy > Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am??? Al's > speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman. (sigh) > > Hey, I'm just wondering....I remember one of the mannlisters posting a > list of quotes made by Bush. They were quite scary. Can anyone mail me > a copy off-list or direct me to the site I can find them at? Thanks! > > sharon > > > >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Thu Dec 14 15:13:38 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f117.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.117]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA23132 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:13:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:13:04 -0800 Received: from 172.137.7.50 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:13:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.137.7.50] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: Sarah Harmer, Nelly Furtado Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:13:04 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2000 21:13:04.0348 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5CCC9C0:01C06612] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN much deserved! Sarah's CD is sublime. As for one vote per day at Rolling Stone, hey it sounds like some of those irregularities in Florida! Sharon, I am a little bummed, but I got Aimee and all my mannlist pals to cheer me up right around inauguration time for AimeeStock 2001! We could go to the Birchmere shows and do some day protests over in DC though. My sign will read: Bush is bad for you! >From: "Kristina Wilcox" >Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: OT: Sarah Harmer, Nelly Furtado >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:40:29 -0800 > >Sarah Harmer made Time's Top 10 Albums of the Year. The writer called it >the >best debut of the year, with honoral mention going to Nelly Furtado > >http://www.time.com/time/sampler/article/0,8599,91092,00.html > >http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2000/12/1305.cfm > >~~ Kristina ~~ >Central Coast Mannlister >"Though you pay for the hand they're shaking >Speeches and the mistakes they're making >As they struggle with the undertaking of simple thought" >Aimee Mann "You're With Stupid Now" > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From gkomoto@jps.net Thu Dec 14 15:18:18 2000 Received: from smtp06.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT003.ONEMAIN.COM [63.208.208.73]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id PAA24168 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:18:17 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 17808 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2000 21:15:49 -0000 Received: from webmail.jps.net (HELO jps.net) ([216.119.0.19]) (envelope-sender ) by 10.209.20.36 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Dec 2000 21:15:49 -0000 From: "Greg Komoto" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: gkomoto@jps.net To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:15:49 GMT Subject: Aimee eInterview in LA Times (link) X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.3b, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3a393885.5fc8.0@jps.net> X-User-Info: 132.233.247.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: gkomoto@jps.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Aimee is interviewed in the 12/14 LA Times. It's a regular feature about technology/tech toys of celebrities. Aimee talks about web sites, grammar, her EBay addiction, and her computer setup. Oh, and about recording. It's so LA that her former neighbor is a sitcom star. http://www.latimes.com/print/techtimes/20001213/t000119301.html >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Thu Dec 14 15:26:24 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA25124 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:26:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from [206.8.2.25] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 14-Dec-2000 15:24:42 -0600 Date: 14 Dec 2000 15:29:24 -0600 Message-ID: <912168913jsteinmann@clynch.com> From: Jack Steinmann Subject: [OT] re: George W. [OT] To: CC: The Mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id PAA25125 Reply-To: jsteinmann@clynch.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Big time. Bryce Traister wrote: >At 02:22 PM 12/14/00 -0500, you wrote: >>Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am??? Al's >>speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman. >(sigh) > >I believe we're all with stupid now. > > >bt >From Pianist2b@aol.com Thu Dec 14 15:28:49 2000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA25582 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:28:48 -0600 (CST) From: Pianist2b@aol.com Received: from Pianist2b@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.33.) id g.32.de9df24 (4209) for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:28:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32.de9df24.276a956c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:28:12 EST Subject: Town Hall tix on sale? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: Pianist2b@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Does anyone know when the AV shows Jan 22, 23 at Town Hall go on sale? thanks Jess >From Ficman@Earthlink.net Thu Dec 14 15:34:58 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA26198 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:34:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from bitchslapper (sdn-ar-001inlafaP256.dialsprint.net [158.252.109.146]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15972 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:34:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Scott Fickle" To: "Mannlist" Subject: RE: OT: George W. Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:38:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: Ficman@Earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Comedian's aside at least we have a president now that doesn't claim he invited everything from the Internet to Voting machines. I hope Gore just disappears had enough of that guy in the last month to last a lifetime... No need to flame me to pieces folks, my view I am entitled to it... -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Missy Roback Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:42 PM To: sharbear@epix.net; mannlist Subject: Re: OT: George W. depressed? yep. but you know, the comedians are going to have a LOT of material to work with over the next 4 years. i'm gonna have to start watching leno more often. sharon, i sent you a few of those bush quotes, but my email crashed and i lost everything. i do have a new list of florida bumper stickers that i'll email you offlist! missy > Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am??? Al's > speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman. (sigh) > > Hey, I'm just wondering....I remember one of the mannlisters posting a > list of quotes made by Bush. They were quite scary. Can anyone mail me > a copy off-list or direct me to the site I can find them at? Thanks! > > sharon > > > >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Thu Dec 14 15:43:29 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA27334 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:43:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBELhYi23970 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:43:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A393EF8.3040607@ucdavis.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:43:20 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee eInterview in LA Times (link) References: <3a393885.5fc8.0@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Greg Komoto wrote: > Aimee is interviewed in the 12/14 LA Times. It's a regular feature about technology/tech > toys of celebrities. Aimee talks about web sites, grammar, her EBay addiction, > and her computer setup. Oh, and about recording. It's so LA that her former > neighbor is a sitcom star. > > http://www.latimes.com/print/techtimes/20001213/t000119301.html What a great little article. I mean it's not much of an interview but kinda interesting and amusing. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From missy@honeybeepub.com Thu Dec 14 15:49:57 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA27728 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:49:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA23871; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:49:53 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:51:22 -0800 Subject: Re: Aimee eInterview in LA Times (link) From: Missy Roback To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3a393885.5fc8.0@jps.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN not to start another OS war, but hey, she uses a Mac! another reason to love her. > > Aimee is interviewed in the 12/14 LA Times. It's a regular feature about > technology/tech > toys of celebrities. Aimee talks about web sites, grammar, her EBay addiction, > and her computer setup. Oh, and about recording. It's so LA that her former > neighbor is a sitcom star. > > http://www.latimes.com/print/techtimes/20001213/t000119301.html > > >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Thu Dec 14 15:59:48 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA28619 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:59:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBELxqi27092; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:59:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3942C9.7070408@ucdavis.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:59:37 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ficman@earthlink.net CC: Mannlist Subject: Re: OT: George W. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Scott Fickle wrote: > Comedian's aside at least we have a president now that doesn't claim he > invited everything from the Internet to Voting machines. I hope Gore just > disappears had enough of that guy in the last month to last a lifetime... Let me make this clear, Gore did not say that he "invented the Internet." He was misquoted, and he said that he "took the initiative to make the Internet what it is today," which is true since helped create and sponsor a number of Senate bills in the mid-80s and early 90s to expand and upgrade what was the Internet back then, and this was back when the thought of connecting to a network from home was crazy and useless. In fact, President George Bush, at that time, supported Senator Gore on some of these bills. I don't want to get into any political debates here, I just want to make this clear since I would do the same for Bush, or anyone else, if I knew of a misquote that others were heavey quoting on. Misquoting isn't that uncommon in journalism. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From jillpw@hotmail.com Thu Dec 14 16:25:36 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f311.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.189]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA01778 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:25:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:25:02 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:25:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Ticket Sales for AV Town Hall NYC Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:25:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2000 22:25:02.0961 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3E4D610:01C0661C] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Several people have asked when tickets go on sale. I have tried, but have not been able to get a clear answer to that question. According to the Town Hall box office, tickets always go on sale at the box office three weeks prior to a show, which would be January 1st. However, they also said that Ticketmaster sometimes has tickets for sale BEFORE the box office. Ticketmaster does not yet have any record of the concert in their system. I will post if I get any better information. Jill _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >From ironman@connexus.net.au Thu Dec 14 17:08:50 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA14088 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:08:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (mail.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.17]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA13276; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:08:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) From: "Tony Iremonger" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: ironman@connexus.net.au To: "Scott Fickle" Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:08:40 +1100 Subject: RE: OT: George W. X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6k, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3a3952f8.33d3.0@connexus.net.au> X-User-Info: 203.34.175.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: ironman@connexus.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN It's been a bit bemusing watching the great presidential melt-down from a non-US perspective. I've read in a few places that Al and Tipper Gore lay claim to being closet Deadheads. I wonder, if Gore had become your president, would there have been a time when he was forced to confess: "Yes I took LSD in the 60's: But I didn't ingest!" Here's a quick lesson in US politics courtesy of the late Frank Zappa: Republicans is fine, If you're a multi-millionaire Democrats is fair, If all you own is what you wear Neither of 'em's REALLY right, 'Cause neither of 'em CARE "Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel" - Frank Zappa Tony Iremonger Melbourne, Australia >Comedian's aside at least we have a president now that doesn't claim he >invited everything from the Internet to Voting machines. I hope Gore just >disappears had enough of that guy in the last month to last a lifetime... > > >No need to flame me to pieces folks, my view I am entitled to it... > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >[mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Missy Roback >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:42 PM >To: sharbear@epix.net; mannlist >Subject: Re: OT: George W. > > >depressed? yep. but you know, the comedians are going to have a LOT of >material to work with over the next 4 years. i'm gonna have to start >watching leno more often. > >sharon, i sent you a few of those bush quotes, but my email crashed and i >lost everything. i do have a new list of florida bumper stickers that i'll >email you offlist! > >missy > >> Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am??? Al's >> speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman. (sigh) >> >> Hey, I'm just wondering....I remember one of the mannlisters posting a >> list of quotes made by Bush. They were quite scary. Can anyone mail me >> a copy off-list or direct me to the site I can find them at? Thanks! >> >> sharon >> >> >> > > > >From edmund@e-p-w.net Thu Dec 14 17:19:07 2000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA15374 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:19:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.8.89.153] (helo=m006nb00) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.11 #5) id 146heT-000GQX-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:19:05 +0000 Message-ID: <002901c06623$f18e57a0$995908c3@m006nb00> Reply-To: "Edmund PW" From: "Edmund PW" To: "Aimee Mann Mailing List (New)" Subject: Bachelor No 2 Download Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:16:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C06623.EF8F2C40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C06623.EF8F2C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone other than me been unable to download this from = aimeemann.com? At first I was told that I couldn't download it in this = country (Britain). Now it says that it isn't available. And can anyone who has downloaded it successfully tell me about the = bonus tracks? Edmund ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C06623.EF8F2C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone other than me been = unable to=20 download this from aimeemann.com?  At first I was told that I = couldn't=20 download it in this country (Britain).  Now it says that it isn't=20 available.
 
And can anyone who = has=20 downloaded it successfully tell me about the bonus tracks?
 
Edmund
------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C06623.EF8F2C40-- >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Thu Dec 14 17:26:01 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA15820 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:26:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBENQ0i13750; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:26:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3956F9.5060003@ucdavis.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:25:45 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edmund PW CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Bachelor No 2 Download References: <002901c06623$f18e57a0$995908c3@m006nb00> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Edmund PW wrote: > And can anyone who *has* downloaded it successfully tell me about the > bonus tracks? I didn't download it, but Michale Hausman (Aimee's manager) said that the bonus tracks are just "Save Me" which is on the Magnolia soundtrack, and Aimee's version of "The Christmas Song," which is a nice little track. I purchased my copy of "The Christmas Song" at the Petaluma concert a few days ago. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From edmund@e-p-w.net Thu Dec 14 17:26:30 2000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA15924 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:26:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.8.89.153] (helo=m006nb00) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.11 #5) id 146hlc-000GiB-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:26:28 +0000 Message-ID: <005201c06624$f997b9e0$995908c3@m006nb00> Reply-To: "Edmund PW" From: "Edmund PW" To: "mannlist" References: <3A391DF4.F41D437E@epix.net> Subject: Re: George W. Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:24:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Totally depressed. The US President is probably the only one who really matters to countries outside (if you know what I mean). Never mind how awful Dubya sounds from an international perspective, I am completely floored by the fact that the self-acclaimed world's greatest democracy can run an election and not count all the votes and that the highest court in the land can make a decision based not on the law or justice, but on party lines. Edmund ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid To: mannlist Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 7:22 PM Subject: OT: George W. > Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am??? Al's > speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman. (sigh) > > Hey, I'm just wondering....I remember one of the mannlisters posting a > list of quotes made by Bush. They were quite scary. Can anyone mail me > a copy off-list or direct me to the site I can find them at? Thanks! > > sharon > > > > >From speed3@hawaii.rr.com Thu Dec 14 17:27:56 2000 Received: from hawaii.rr.com (hnlmail2.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.227.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA16337 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:27:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.25.228.195] ([24.25.228.195]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.617.61); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:27:52 -1000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:29:03 -1000 Subject: Aimee Uses A Mac ! ! ! From: Darcy To: Mannlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speed3@hawaii.rr.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >From the Los Angeles Times article: "Desktop: It's a Mac 9600 I borrowed from Dave Foley [of "Kids in the Hall" and "Newsradio"] a couple years ago. He lived down the street from me. I borrowed it, and I guess it's been long enough that he's entirely forgotten about it. I like having a Mac. It goes hand in hand with being a Nader supporter." Aimee's a Mac user! Aimee's a Mac user! My apologies to the Wintel fans on the list. Darcy >From info@paulmelancon.com Thu Dec 14 17:30:36 2000 Received: from goliath2.primary-server.net (goliath2.primary-server.net [216.71.84.13]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA17015 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:30:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from cc807453a (cc807453-a.chmbl1.ga.home.com [24.4.119.78]) by goliath2.primary-server.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20675 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:29:55 -0600 From: "Paul Melancon" To: "Mannlist" Subject: RE: Aimee Uses A Mac ! ! ! Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:23:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: info@paulmelancon.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN i think the larger issue here is that Aimee knows Dave Foley... at least, for me. :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Darcy Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:29 PM To: Mannlist Subject: Aimee Uses A Mac ! ! ! >From the Los Angeles Times article: "Desktop: It's a Mac 9600 I borrowed from Dave Foley [of "Kids in the Hall" and "Newsradio"] a couple years ago. He lived down the street from me. I borrowed it, and I guess it's been long enough that he's entirely forgotten about it. I like having a Mac. It goes hand in hand with being a Nader supporter." Aimee's a Mac user! Aimee's a Mac user! My apologies to the Wintel fans on the list. Darcy >From speed3@hawaii.rr.com Thu Dec 14 17:32:26 2000 Received: from hawaii.rr.com (hnlmail2.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.227.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA17262 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:32:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.25.228.195] ([24.25.228.195]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.617.61); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:32:23 -1000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:33:34 -1000 Subject: Dave Foley From: Darcy To: Mannlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speed3@hawaii.rr.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Aimee's a "Kids in the Hall" fan! Aimee's a "Kids in the Hall" fan! Darcy >From missy@honeybeepub.com Thu Dec 14 17:36:52 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA17511 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:36:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA47355; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:36:48 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:38:18 -0800 Subject: OT: Re: George W. From: Missy Roback To: Edmund PW , mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <005201c06624$f997b9e0$995908c3@m006nb00> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN as am i. history will not look kindly upon this entire mess. it's shameful. > I am completely > floored by the fact that the self-acclaimed world's greatest democracy can > run an election and not count all the votes and that the highest court in > the land can make a decision based not on the law or justice, but on party > lines. >From mvfisk@gj.net Thu Dec 14 18:12:47 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA19754 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:12:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.64.143] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A2659770222; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:14:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3A3961E8.BDBDDD94@gj.net> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:12:24 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: we missed it Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey I guess I didn't notice...for you digest members, yesterday's digest was Mannlist digest number 1000.  With this digest I am reading now, we begin the new Mann Millenium. Hip, hip...(listening for Hoorays!)

Michael >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 14 18:15:47 2000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA21230 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:15:46 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.cc.e24a5c5 (4541) for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:15:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:15:08 EST Subject: Aimee gets mentioned in Newsweek To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc.e24a5c5.276abc8c_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_cc.e24a5c5.276abc8c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is actually an article about David Gray, who is pretty good in his own right. 'Like fellow artists Dave Mathews (whose boutique label, ATO Records, released White Ladder in the US) and Aimee Mann, Gray is that rare showbiz phenomenon: a true word-of-mouth creation.' Granted ATO, which is a subsidiary of a major label, and I forget which one, had the marketing muscle of a major behind it, so it's maybe not totally fair to say he's word of mouth successful, particularly since Aimee has her own label, and was totally grass roots successful, Magnolia, and the Oscars nonwithstanding. Still though, it is nice to read this, and hey, it was all of us fans who were spreading the word on our own, with no big PR department behind us. Of course Aimee did do a lot of publicity, but we still helped a lot, and that's cool. Andrea --part1_cc.e24a5c5.276abc8c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is actually an article about David Gray, who is pretty good in his own
right.
'Like fellow artists Dave Mathews (whose boutique label, ATO Records,
released White Ladder in the US) and Aimee Mann, Gray is that rare showbiz
phenomenon: a true word-of-mouth creation.'
Granted ATO, which is a subsidiary of a major label, and I forget which one,
had the marketing muscle of a major behind it, so it's maybe not totally fair
to say he's word of mouth successful, particularly since Aimee has her own
label, and was totally grass roots successful, Magnolia, and the Oscars
nonwithstanding.  Still though, it is nice to read this, and hey, it was all
of us fans who were spreading the word on our own, with no big PR department
behind us.  Of course Aimee did do a lot of publicity, but we still helped a
lot, and that's cool.
Andrea --part1_cc.e24a5c5.276abc8c_boundary-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 14 18:20:46 2000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA24281 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:20:45 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id p.ab.4608f45 (4541); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:20:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:20:07 EST Subject: Re: OT: George W. To: sharbear@epix.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ab.4608f45.276abdb7_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_ab.4608f45.276abdb7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 2:24:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, sharbear@epix.net writes: > Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am??? Al's > speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman. (sigh) > > I am, it's very hard to think of this twit as prez. Al Gore went out on top, and every article I've read on it said that he hinted that he may run again. I hope he does. On the other hand, he may have competition. There are rumblings that Hillary may run for the White House in 2004, even though she's said no, that she wants to serve her term. We'll see, now that would be interesting. Andrea --part1_ab.4608f45.276abdb7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 2:24:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sharbear@epix.net writes:


Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am???   Al's
speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman.  (sigh)



I am, it's very hard to think of this twit as prez.  Al Gore went out on top,
and every article I've read on it said that he hinted that he may run again.  
I hope he does.  On the other hand, he may have competition.  There are
rumblings that Hillary may run for the White House in 2004, even though she's
said no, that she wants to serve her term.  We'll see, now that would be
interesting.
Andrea --part1_ab.4608f45.276abdb7_boundary-- >From missy@honeybeepub.com Thu Dec 14 18:44:03 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA29429 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:44:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA25750; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:43:53 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:45:23 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: George W. From: Missy Roback To: , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3059657123_4610158_MIME_Part" Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3059657123_4610158_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit hillary and feinstein - that would be a hell of a ticket. i'd love to see her run, and i think she will at some point, but imagine the crap the republicans would do to try to destroy her. in retrospect, it's nice to see that having a jew as his running mate did not cost gore the election, as many were afraid would happen... missy (looking for a silver lining...) There are rumblings that Hillary may run for the White House in 2004, even though she's said no, that she wants to serve her term. We'll see, now that would be interesting. --MS_Mac_OE_3059657123_4610158_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: OT: George W. hillary and feinstein - that would be a hell of a ticket. i'd love to see h= er run, and i think she will at some point, but imagine the crap the republi= cans would do to try to destroy her.

in retrospect, it's nice to see that having a jew as his running mate did n= ot cost gore the election, as many were afraid would happen...

missy (looking for a silver lining...)

There are
rumblings that Hillary may run for the White House in 2004, even though she= 's
said no, that she wants to serve her term.  We'll see, now that would = be
interesting.
--MS_Mac_OE_3059657123_4610158_MIME_Part-- >From ldphill@earthlink.net Thu Dec 14 18:52:40 2000 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA29745 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:52:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust161.tnt6.denton.tx.da.uu.net [63.11.242.161]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA03681; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:52:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00e101c06632$7f3128e0$a1f20b3f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: Subject: Re: OT: George W. Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:00:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DE_01C06600.230A88E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01C06600.230A88E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And just think, considering how much Texas sucks at the moment, how this = country's gonna be in 4 years (or less!) If I remember correctly, all Hillary said was that she *wasn't* running = for Senate solely as a stepping stone for the presidency, but that she = intended to do the best job possible in that office. Don't think she = completely ruled a run for the Oval Office out, but that the phrasing of = the question may have been misinterpreted. Also, some Bush humor in an attempt to ease the numbing reality... = http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/by/bush/ .=20 Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's = wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message -----=20 From: AWeiss4338@aol.com=20 To: sharbear@epix.net ; mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:20 PM Subject: Re: OT: George W. In a message dated 12/14/00 2:24:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 sharbear@epix.net writes:=20 Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I am??? = Al's=20 speech last night was sad....and he was such a gentleman. (sigh)=20 I am, it's very hard to think of this twit as prez. Al Gore went out = on top,=20 and every article I've read on it said that he hinted that he may run = again. =20 I hope he does. On the other hand, he may have competition. There = are=20 rumblings that Hillary may run for the White House in 2004, even = though she's=20 said no, that she wants to serve her term. We'll see, now that would = be=20 interesting.=20 Andrea=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01C06600.230A88E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And just think, considering how much = Texas sucks at=20 the moment, how this country's gonna be in 4 years (or = less!)
 
If I remember correctly, all Hillary = said was that=20 she *wasn't* running for Senate solely as a stepping stone for the = presidency,=20 but that she intended to do the best job possible in that office. Don't = think=20 she completely ruled a run for the Oval Office out, but that the = phrasing of the=20 question may have been misinterpreted.
 
Also, some Bush humor in an attempt to = ease the=20 numbing reality... http://www.modernhumor= ist.com/mh/by/bush/ .=20
 
Lauren
 
"At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the = coffee's=20 wearing off." - Lauren
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 AWeiss4338@aol.com
To: sharbear@epix.net ; mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu= =20
Sent: Thursday, December 14, = 2000 6:20=20 PM
Subject: Re: OT: George = W.

In a = message dated=20 12/14/00 2:24:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sharbear@epix.net writes: =


Is anyone else as depressed about our new president as I = am???=20   Al's
speech last night was sad....and he was such a=20 gentleman.  (sigh)



I am, it's very = hard to=20 think of this twit as prez.  Al Gore went out on top,
and = every=20 article I've read on it said that he hinted that he may run again. =  
I=20 hope he does.  On the other hand, he may have competition. =  There=20 are
rumblings that Hillary may run for the White House in 2004, = even=20 though she's
said no, that she wants to serve her term. =  We'll see,=20 now that would be
interesting.
Andrea=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01C06600.230A88E0-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 14 19:11:11 2000 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.9]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA00608 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:11:10 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id l.54.d4e7647 (4505); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:10:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54.d4e7647.276ac967@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:09:59 EST Subject: Re: OT: George W. To: missy@honeybeepub.com, sharbear@epix.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_54.d4e7647.276ac967_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_54.d4e7647.276ac967_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 7:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, missy@honeybeepub.com writes: > hillary and feinstein - that would be a hell of a ticket. i'd love to see > her run, and i think she will at some point, but imagine the crap the > republicans would do to try to destroy her. > > in retrospect, it's nice to see that having a jew as his running mate did > not cost gore the election, as many were afraid would happen... > > That Would Be Some Ticket, I'd love to see that. Yes I can just imagine the mud that will be slung by the GOP. I was thinking about that too, and am glad that with this fiasco, that was forgotten, it would have made for some vile anti semitism. I think Jews have broken another barrier here, now let's have them win the White House. I'm Jewish so this whole thing is a point of pride to me. And with points of pride, which sounds like 'a thousand points of light,' do you think Bush will come with something as dopy as his dad did with that? Andrea --part1_54.d4e7647.276ac967_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 7:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
missy@honeybeepub.com writes:


hillary and feinstein - that would be a hell of a ticket. i'd love to see
her run, and i think she will at some point, but imagine the crap the
republicans would do to try to destroy her.

in retrospect, it's nice to see that having a jew as his running mate did
not cost gore the election, as many were afraid would happen...



That Would Be Some Ticket, I'd love to see that.  Yes I can just imagine the
mud that will be slung by the GOP.
I was thinking about that too, and am glad that with this fiasco, that was
forgotten, it would have made for some vile anti semitism.  I think Jews have
broken another barrier here, now let's have them win the White House.  I'm
Jewish so this whole thing is a point of pride to me.
And with points of pride, which sounds like 'a thousand points of light,' do
you think Bush will come with something as dopy as his dad did with that?
Andrea --part1_54.d4e7647.276ac967_boundary-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 14 19:15:47 2000 Received: from imo-r11.mail.aol.com (imo-r11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA01012 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:15:46 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id f.51.4cad9c8 (4505); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:14:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <51.4cad9c8.276aca8b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:14:51 EST Subject: Re: OT: George W. To: ldphill@earthlink.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_51.4cad9c8.276aca8b_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_51.4cad9c8.276aca8b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 7:53:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, ldphill@earthlink.net writes: > And just think, considering how much Texas sucks at the moment, how this > country's gonna be in 4 years (or less!) > > If I remember correctly, all Hillary said was that she *wasn't* running for > Senate solely as a stepping stone for the presidency, but that she intended > to do the best job possible in that office. Don't think she completely > ruled a run for the Oval Office out, but that the phrasing of the question > may have been misinterpreted. > > Also, some Bush humor in an attempt to ease the numbing reality... > http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/by/bush/ . > > I shudder what the US will be in four years, at least I hope it's onlky four years. Yes that's what I've been reading from various articles about Hillary. I agree, I think she will run at some point, but I think I would rather, now that I think about it, perfer 2008, let her get some experence being a senator before she runs. She already has a lot, but this will add a lot too. Great site, everyone go there. Andrea --part1_51.4cad9c8.276aca8b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 7:53:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ldphill@earthlink.net writes:


And just think, considering how much Texas sucks at the moment, how this
country's gonna be in 4 years (or less!)

If I remember correctly, all Hillary said was that she *wasn't* running for
Senate solely as a stepping stone for the presidency, but that she intended
to do the best job possible in that office. Don't think she completely
ruled a run for the Oval Office out, but that the phrasing of the question
may have been misinterpreted.

Also, some Bush humor in an attempt to ease the numbing reality...
http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/by/bush/ .



I shudder what the US will be in four years, at least I hope it's onlky four
years.
Yes that's what I've been reading from various articles about Hillary.  I
agree, I think she will run at some point, but I think I would rather, now
that I think about it, perfer 2008, let her get some experence being a
senator before she runs.  She already has a lot, but this will add a lot too.
Great site, everyone go there.
Andrea --part1_51.4cad9c8.276aca8b_boundary-- >From missy@honeybeepub.com Thu Dec 14 19:18:24 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA01123 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:18:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA62314; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:18:19 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:19:48 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: George W. From: Missy Roback To: , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <54.d4e7647.276ac967@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3059659188_4734388_MIME_Part" Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3059659188_4734388_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit oh, his writers will have plenty of time to come up with some gems. "compassionate conservatism" is a nice gagging start. sort of an oxymoron, eh? And with points of pride, which sounds like 'a thousand points of light,' do you think Bush will come with something as dopy as his dad did with that? Andrea --MS_Mac_OE_3059659188_4734388_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: OT: George W.
oh, his writers will have plenty of time to come up with some g= ems. "compassionate conservatism" is a nice gagging start. sort of= an oxymoron, eh?

And with points of pride, which sounds like 'a thousand points of light,' d= o
you think Bush will come with something as dopy as his dad did with that? <= BR> Andrea

--MS_Mac_OE_3059659188_4734388_MIME_Part-- >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Thu Dec 14 19:53:53 2000 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA03612 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:53:52 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.7b.d8f09da (4469) for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:53:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7b.d8f09da.276ad389@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:53:13 EST Subject: Re: Fillmore photos and poster & Aimee's guitar To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 126 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN WOW, beautiful pictures, Russ. Thanks so much for posting them. Just an aside, every Aimee concert that I have been to and in every one of her television appearances that I have seen, she has had her same (obviously favorite) acoustic guitar. Does anyone know how long Aimee has had this guitar? It looks like it has been through a few wars. I do believe that I would recognize this guitar even if Aimee was not holding it! Steve >From AimeeFan@aol.com Thu Dec 14 19:54:07 2000 Received: from imo-r15.mail.aol.com (imo-r15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA03658 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:54:06 -0600 (CST) From: AimeeFan@aol.com Received: from AimeeFan@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.ae.e7ba0d8 (4387); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:53:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:53:35 EST Subject: Stage Door Johnny To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 126 Reply-To: AimeeFan@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN What a week! I strongly agree with all of the positive comments about the tour that were posted here on the list. Aimee was really sick and then a little less sick and then... Last night at the Sun Theater was the health high point for the week. She blew her nose a couple of times but she didn't blow any of her cues. Michael Paines joined her on violin for electric versions of several songs including Deathly. His contribution to Wise Up was very sweet and sad. Lockwood was bopping and bouncing, John Sands is always a rock but he was extra good this week. Paul Bryan has a new haircut and ready steady confidence too. His voice was usually second in the mix and Lockwood added some tasty thirds as well. Jebin is a fucking mutant, the lost Xman. His special mutant power is that he can climb inside your brain with his keyboards and clean out your ears from the inside. The Sun has a great sound and was the only stop on the tour that featured IMAG, big live video pictures flanking the stage. In fact, I don't remember ANY shows where Aimee played out on the big screen. Did they do IMAG on the Lilith tour? High point: the blues jam about head goo had me floating. Re: AimeeStalk2000, the Virginians are coming to H'burg, Philly and Birchmere. I also got tics for Berklee. Re: TicketHamster. The only thing that pisses me off about the Hamster is the cost to us end-users. They've really improved their service during this last year and the interactive voice ordering system works well if you drink coffee and smoke plenty of cigs while you wait. Tickets.com also has tix sometimes. Re: Hub. This was the show, IMHO, not as hard as Fillmore but very sweet and sad. The audience was young but ready to worship She who must be worshipped. Gads, they were quiet. One cool thing about Aimee's boogie monster problems, she had to find new ways to carry some familiar songs. Re: Russ's question: BACKFIRE is the new song, to be included on Euro import versions of B#2 with the SAVE ME video. Re: Hausman. I agree, he's one friendly fella. Sharp too. >From aidanjm@nex.net.au Thu Dec 14 19:55:55 2000 Received: from nex.com.au ([203.36.132.124]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA03844 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:55:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from aidanjm [203.109.243.100] by nex.com.au (SMTPD32-6.04) id A92513D80238; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:51:33 +1100 Message-ID: <00fa01c0663a$9a048e20$64f36dcb@aidanjm> From: "Aidan Martin" To: "Aimee Mann list" Subject: OT: Re: George W. 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(8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA05788 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:25:09 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id l.ab.460a4e8 (4537); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:24:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:24:02 EST Subject: Re: OT: George W. To: missy@honeybeepub.com, sharbear@epix.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ab.460a4e8.276adac2_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_ab.460a4e8.276adac2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 8:18:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, missy@honeybeepub.com writes: > oh, his writers will have plenty of time to come up with some gems. > "compassionate conservatism" is a nice gagging start. sort of an oxymoron, > eh? > > Yep:)! I can't wait for the others:). Andrea --part1_ab.460a4e8.276adac2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/14/00 8:18:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
missy@honeybeepub.com writes:


oh, his writers will have plenty of time to come up with some gems.
"compassionate conservatism" is a nice gagging start. sort of an oxymoron,
eh?



Yep:)! I can't wait for the others:).
Andrea --part1_ab.460a4e8.276adac2_boundary-- >From missy@honeybeepub.com Thu Dec 14 23:10:01 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA15717 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:10:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA54567 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:09:59 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:11:29 -0800 Subject: aimee mann makes the onion's top 10 From: Missy Roback To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN http://avclub.theonion.com/bonusfeature1.html >From mark.smith@readysteadyhost.com Fri Dec 15 03:39:23 2000 Received: from readysteadyhost.com (readysteadyhost.com [192.41.44.187]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id DAA27920 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:39:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from marks.napier.ac.uk (marks.napier.ac.uk [146.176.4.151]) by readysteadyhost.com (8.8.5) id CAA06594; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 02:39:21 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <000701c0667b$1187d8e0$9704b092@napier.ac.uk> From: "Mark M Smith" To: References: Subject: aimee makes the MOJO top 10 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:40:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mark.smith@readysteadyhost.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Just got the new issue of the UK mag Mojo yesterday. They do the usual best albums of the year list and Bachelor #2 is at no. 4. The blurb says "It's hard to believe but Mann continues to get better. Although much of this exquisite album also exists on the soundtrack to the film Magnolia, this is the context in which Mann wanted these lovely songs heard, and makes a more satisfying listen" They have a top 40 albums but the first 10 are: 1. Johnny Cash - American III:Solitary Man 2. Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R 3. Radiohead - Kid A 4. Aimee Mann - Bachelor #2 5. the delgados - The Great Eastern 6. Paul Simon - You're The One 7. Emmylou Harris - Red Dirt Girl 8. Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump 9. Kathryn Williams - Little Black Numbers 10. Lambchop - Nixon Mark >From jase@iaw.on.ca Fri Dec 15 05:37:02 2000 Received: from mail2.rdc2.on.home.com (mail2.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id FAA00035 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:37:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from co31883-a.iaw.on.ca ([24.150.58.163]) by mail2.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001215113656.RVRG16721.mail2.rdc2.on.home.com@co31883-a.iaw.on.ca> for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:36:56 -0800 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20001215063945.009eb540@mail.iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@mail.iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 06:39:49 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: Wall of Sound's best of the year list ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: jase@iaw.on.ca Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN ... has just been posted to their Web site. Guess who's number one? :) http://wallofsound.go.com/features/critics00/index.html Cheers, Jase >From jillpw@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 09:22:55 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f305.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.183]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id JAA21840 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:22:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:22:23 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:22:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Bachelor #2 Best of Lists Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:22:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2000 15:22:23.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[D2E8A7B0:01C066AA] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN So Bachelor No. 2 is #1 on Wall of Sound's top 25 albums of 2,000 and and #4 on Mojo's list. Is it on any other lists? Is anyone keeping track? I was thinking of adding a blurb to our promotional flyers. Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From jillpw@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 09:29:01 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f218.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.218]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id JAA22733 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:29:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:28:30 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:28:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Craig Kilborn Tonight Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:28:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2000 15:28:30.0785 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADCF2B10:01C066AB] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Spencer posted a note from MP (below) to the Pennlist. Aimee and Michael are probably going to be performing "Christmastime" on the program tonight. >Just to let you know.... > >I might be on CBS - Later (Craig Kilborn) with Aimee to perform >"Christmastime" tomorrow (Friday). > >soon, >MP > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From bbllueaangel@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 10:14:27 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f132.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.132]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA28059 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:14:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:13:56 -0800 Received: from 12.16.202.145 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:13:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.16.202.145] From: "Libbie H." To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: belated 12.12 comments Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:13:55 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2000 16:13:56.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[0639D880:01C066B2] Reply-To: bbllueaangel@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN hi folks- Just a quick eyewitness from one of the number of guests at Tuesday night's most excellent concert. I just re-joined the list- so here is a belated message that I wrote and sent Wed a.m., but that didn't get posted, I guess, because I wasn't on the list..-better late then never Well, what I wrote in my post-concert excitement was: I couldn't get to sleep last night after the show-This was certainly one of the best I've seen. The music was fantastic-- Aimee sounded and played great.(what cold??) And the band was in top form- not only did the band look like they were having a lot of fun, but this drifted out to the audience-complimenting the content of some of the most intensely honest songs of our time. It was really a personable night. Can anybody tell me the names of the guitarist, bass player and keyboardist?? I am very curious about the bassist and guitarist- Skill and Style and Charm...you guys rock! Aimee made no mistakes in choosing this crew. And the final encore with I've Had It and Stupid Thing- THAT was a fine experience. What a musician. Once again, I felt like such a lucky person to have been at a Mann concert - Special Thanks and good karma to Mr. Brwnshoe(s) for the car pooling (and the red vines) you saved me! And it was good to see/meet Russ's smiling face, however brief the exchange, and Mr. Stewart- there we were again smoking after the show...who would've known?? Oh- and John Sands if you're out there- I was thinking you were looking cute and fashionable, not to mention playing top notch, but I expect nothing less, before Aimee revealed the shopping trip. This was one show I will be remembering-Thanks Aimee et all...you DID rock :-)... "eternally grateful to you for the call cause some kinds of time happen once and for all" Libbie in blue _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From AGaubert@classroom.com Fri Dec 15 10:22:13 2000 Received: from galileo.classroom.com (www4.classroom.com [38.185.152.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA29303 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:22:11 -0600 (CST) Received: by GALILEO with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:20:29 -0800 Message-ID: <61901B1E0226D4119AAD00D0B76FE7C362D609@DRAKE> From: "Gaubert, Achilles" To: "'Aimee Mann listproc' (E-mail)" Subject: FW: [michaelpennlist] MP on TV Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:21:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C066B2.F0AE28B2" Reply-To: AGaubert@classroom.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C066B2.F0AE28B2-- >From russnordmeyer@earthlink.net Fri Dec 15 10:54:15 2000 Received: from mail.thestandard.com (mail.thestandard.net [209.0.34.132]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA04106 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:54:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from [172.16.11.103] (172.16.11.103 [172.16.11.103]) by mail.thestandard.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id Y75ZZ3NB; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:47:58 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:06:07 -0800 To: jillpw@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Russ Nordmeyer Subject: Re: Bachelor #2 Best of Lists Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: russnordmeyer@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I haven't been keeping track, but if someone wanted to compile a list, I'd love to put together a "congratulations, Aimee!" page on the site. I'm think Michael Hausman would pass it on to her. Russ At 10:22 AM -0500 12/15/00, Jill Weisenfeld wrote: >So Bachelor No. 2 is #1 on Wall of Sound's top 25 albums of 2,000 >and and #4 on Mojo's list. Is it on any other lists? Is anyone >keeping track? I was thinking of adding a blurb to our promotional >flyers. > >Jill > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From kcei@newhavenadvocate.com Fri Dec 15 11:26:43 2000 Received: from quark.newmassmedia.com (quark.newmassmedia.com [209.94.128.186]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA09556 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:26:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from newhavenadvocate.com ([63.103.11.162]) by quark.newmassmedia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26935 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:19:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3A3A53F8.6E2F5740@newhavenadvocate.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:25:13 -0500 From: Kathleen Reply-To: kcei@newhavenadvocate.com Organization: New Haven Advocate X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: Solin References: <200012151200.GAA00998@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello, I thought I should let Jon Brion and Aimee Mann's fans know about an EP that just came out from one of Jon's old New Haven band mates, Pat Luciano. For reasons too mystical for me to understand, his name is now Solin, and Jon Brion plays drums on one of the tracks on this EP. Pat played with Aimee Mann a few years back in New Haven at Toad's Place, and sang backing vocals on one of his songs (although that song is not on this album.) His web site address is: http://www.solinmusic.com/id2.htm Pat (oops, I mean Solin) is a great songwriter. As you might have guessed, the sound is very Beatlesque (Pat was once John Lennon in some version of Beatlemania). Here's a quote off the web site from my coworker-pal Chris Arnott at the New Haven Advocate: "One of the area's most extraordinary singer-songwriters, the Beatle-soaked pop paragon Solin, has been tinkering for years with the recordings of his immediately memorable "greatest hits" such as "When the Mood Swings," "Bull in China," "Must Be a Lot of Things." His perfection often gets the better of him. Active on the local club scene for decades as a performer, producer, and engineer." - Christopher Arnott (We love him here; in fact we kinda get in trouble from the editor boss for writing about him too much. ) and one from our pal Fran at the daily paper, the New Haven Register: "...be warned that the sound is so Beatlesque that you'll swear his last name is really Lennon. There's a fine line between homage and ripoff, and Solin knows where the line is and knows well enough to stay on the right side of it. (...his voice drifts into shades of Gerry Rafferty and The Moody Blues' Justin Hayward at times, too.)" -Fran Fried >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 15 11:53:15 2000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA14650 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:53:15 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id i.6d.ce63efa (4408); Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:52:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6d.ce63efa.276bb45f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:52:31 EST Subject: Re: Bachelor #2 Best of Lists To: jillpw@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6d.ce63efa.276bb45f_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_6d.ce63efa.276bb45f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/15/00 10:23:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, jillpw@hotmail.com writes: > So Bachelor No. 2 is #1 on Wall of Sound's top 25 albums of 2,000 and and #4 > on Mojo's list. Is it on any other lists? Is anyone keeping track? I was > As Missy said, it made The Onion's top ten, can't remember what number though. Andrea --part1_6d.ce63efa.276bb45f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/15/00 10:23:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jillpw@hotmail.com writes:


So Bachelor No. 2 is #1 on Wall of Sound's top 25 albums of 2,000 and and #4
on Mojo's list. Is it on any other lists?  Is anyone keeping track?  I was
thinking of adding a blurb to our promotional flyers


As Missy said, it made The Onion's top ten, can't remember what number though.
Andrea --part1_6d.ce63efa.276bb45f_boundary-- >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Fri Dec 15 12:36:08 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA05957 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:36:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBFIa7i08137 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:36:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3A648A.3030001@ucdavis.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:35:54 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: All these top 10 lists Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Wow, all these top ten lists with Magnolia or Bachelor #2 on them! Hooray! I usually don't care much about them, but I do now because they're giving Aimee all the attention she deserves. So let's not only thank the people who created these lists for having such good musical taste, but let's thank the Mann for creating the music! -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From ldphill@earthlink.net Fri Dec 15 15:07:20 2000 Received: from rmx452-mta.mail.com (rmx452-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.46]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA24843 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:07:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from web621-wrb.mail.com (web621-wrb.mail.com [165.251.33.61]) by rmx452-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA28456 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:07:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <385182106.976914432904.JavaMail.root@web621-wrb.mail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:07:12 -0500 (EST) From: Lauren Phillips To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Yet another top 10 list.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 129.120.170.26 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Bachelor No 2 is #3 on Entertainment Weekly's Best of 2000 list; pretty interesting since the guy writing it, David Browne, is the same one that gave a good review, but said he couldn't find himself completely being won over by Aimee. Welcome to the ranks of the freaks, David. ;) Lauren >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 15:52:40 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f189.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.189]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA29607 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:52:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:52:09 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:52:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: George W. Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:52:09 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2000 21:52:09.0330 (UTC) FILETIME=[45EE6520:01C066E1] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The funniest thing I've heard GWB say lately is that he's a "delegator." Can you imagine what a mess things would be if he did all the work? Yikes! I hope he delegates to some good people the task of picking good people to do even more delegating. I heard C. Powell might be Secretary of State? The delegation chain could go out of control... Hmmm... *my mind running aorund in circles* ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister "Though you pay for the hand they're shaking Speeches and the mistakes they're making As they struggle with the undertaking of simple thought" Aimee Mann "You're With Stupid Now" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From missy@honeybeepub.com Fri Dec 15 15:54:25 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA29699 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:54:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA65654 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:54:23 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:55:53 -0800 Subject: Re: belated 12.12 comments From: Missy Roback To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN one more thought about the 12.12 show. john sands in a turtleneck was looking quite like steve jobs! (need proof? check russ's pix on www.drivingsideways.com.) >From gussen@rcn.com Fri Dec 15 15:57:49 2000 Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA29912 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:57:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from [208.59.250.178] (helo=gussen) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 1472rL-00059C-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:57:47 -0500 Message-ID: <02ef01c066e3$c90bb190$b2fa3bd0@rcn.com> From: "James Gussen" To: "Mann List" Subject: Acoustic Vaudeville - more centered on Aimee now? Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:10:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: gussen@rcn.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi, I see that Aimee's bringing Acoustic Vaudeville to the Berklee Performance Center in Boston on Jan. 19. Does anyone know if the show has been evolving? In particular, is there less comedian, less Michael, and *more Aimee* than there was about a year ago? If so, I'll certainly go. If not, I may sit this one out. Jim >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Fri Dec 15 17:32:52 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA07223 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:32:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from [206.8.2.25] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 15-Dec-2000 15:33:56 -0600 Date: 15 Dec 2000 15:38:34 -0600 Message-ID: <912255864jsteinmann@clynch.com> From: Jack Steinmann Subject: re: Yet another top 10 list.... To: CC: The Mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.1 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id RAA07224 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Sometime in 2002, after the live Acoustic Vaudeville CD has had time to enjoy a long and buoyant run in the charts (think Peter Frampton "Comes Alive"), wouldn't it be nice to see proper reissues of "Whatever" and, especially, "I'm With Stupid"? Enhanced, perhaps, with historical liner notes, photographs, and other songs recorded at the time, like (I would hope) an electric "Wise Up"? (Rhino, for example, has done a fine job with the Monkees' reissues.) And, IWS would be a perfect reissue to go with the 2002 elections. Jack Lauren Phillips wrote: >Bachelor No 2 is #3 on Entertainment Weekly's Best of 2000 list; pretty >interesting since the guy writing it, David Browne, is the same one that >gave a good review, but said he couldn't find himself completely being won >over by Aimee. > >Welcome to the ranks of the freaks, David. ;) >From marley@iopener.net Fri Dec 15 17:40:58 2000 Received: from mta1.iopener.net ([216.140.180.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA07725 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:40:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.17.117.227] by mta1.iopener.net (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license a9859249478f4710c1a6189b1fb00066) with SMTP id <20001215234013.YZDP23797.mta1@[63.17.117.227]> for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:40:13 -0600 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:54:59 -0600 From: Sean Roper Subject: OT: President-Elect Bush Message-ID: Reply-To: marley@iopener.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN All this George bashing is pretty classless folks. Not everyone on this list is a democrat or independent and it's insulting to assume so. I've read every posting and once they reveted to mere bashing, they do dishonor to the speech Al Gore gave Wednesday. There are no real losers here. It's a pretty amazing country we live in where we can take for granted that events like this could transpire in such a smooth and peacful manner. We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson for the rest of the world. As a republican, for the most part, I wasn't exactly thrilled with either candidate. Bradley vs. McCain would have been more interesting. But the election is over. Give it 6 months and see. I doubt things will be much different than they would have been under the Vice-President. The Presidency just doesn't hold as much power and we seem to imbue it with. >From jillpw@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 18:14:25 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f81.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.81]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA11812 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:14:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:13:54 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:13:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: gussen@rcn.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Acoustic Vaudeville - more centered on Aimee now? Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:13:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 00:13:54.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[1363C460:01C066F5] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN As far as I know the AV format will be very similar to last year. The only real change is that Jebin will be on keyboards instead of Patrick. Also, there is some question as to whether Buddy will be part of the show. I will know more next week. Jill James Gussen wrote: >Does anyone know if the show has been evolving? In particular, is >there less comedian, less Michael, and *more Aimee* than there was >about a year ago? If so, I'll certainly go. If not, I may sit this >one out. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From gussen@rcn.com Fri Dec 15 18:19:38 2000 Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA15543 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:19:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from [208.59.250.178] (helo=gussen) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14754a-0007VX-00 ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:19:36 -0500 Message-ID: <036f01c066f7$99109550$b2fa3bd0@rcn.com> From: "James Gussen" To: , "Mann List" References: Subject: Re: Acoustic Vaudeville - more centered on Aimee now? Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:31:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: gussen@rcn.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Interesting - thanks Jill, I'll look forward to learning more. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 7:13 PM Subject: Re: Acoustic Vaudeville - more centered on Aimee now? > As far as I know the AV format will be very similar to last year. The only > real change is that Jebin will be on keyboards instead of Patrick. Also, > there is some question as to whether Buddy will be part of the show. I will > know more next week. > > Jill > > > James Gussen wrote: > >Does anyone know if the show has been evolving? In particular, is > >there less comedian, less Michael, and *more Aimee* than there was > >about a year ago? If so, I'll certainly go. If not, I may sit this > >one out. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >From edmund@e-p-w.net Fri Dec 15 18:33:55 2000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA20276 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:33:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.8.89.74] (helo=m006nb00) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.11 #5) id 1475IJ-000BhA-00; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:33:50 +0000 Message-ID: <004701c066f7$8b779880$4a5908c3@m006nb00> Reply-To: "Edmund PW" From: "Edmund PW" To: , References: Subject: Re: President-Elect Bush Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:30:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson for the rest of the world. You are kidding aren't you? The rest of the world is split between being aghast at how Bush stole the Presidency, scared at what he might do and laughing at Americans for holding an election and not counting all the votes. I hold no candle for Gore, but he got more votes across America and if all the votes in Florida had been counted, he would surely have got more there too (else why was Bush so desperate to stop them counting?). >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 18:34:16 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f225.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.225]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA20337 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:34:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:33:44 -0800 Received: from 172.135.54.37 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:33:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.135.54.37] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: The World's a Stage Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:33:44 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 00:33:44.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8F8E780:01C066F7] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN First, I think it's great that Aimee is making all these top 10-25 lists! It MUST bode well for the Grammys if the voters are paying attention (or if they are listening). Ghost World and Save Me on a sampler DVD sent to voting members would be nice. Perhaps Apple and Warner could jointly sponsor such a mailing. They wouldn't even have to target the entire voting body since the nominating segments are targeted to specific types of music. >From: "Jill Weisenfeld" > >So Bachelor No. 2 is #1 on Wall of Sound's top 25 albums of 2,000 and and >#4 on Mojo's list. Is it on any other lists? Is anyone keeping track? I >was thinking of adding a blurb to our promotional flyers. >Jill Second, Missy, I just got back home last nite and your tape was waiting. Ohmigoodness!! I love it!! That voice!! And for those of you who don't know, she's got a great head shot to go with that angelic voice! I can't wait for the full CD. Third, Julia Brown from the Pennlist and possibly this list sent me her new disc (it's nice to have my opinion respected) and it is quite good! I am still trying to categorize it for a possible Inkblot review. (You just don't know how nice it is to go through a stack of mail and have the treat of great music to soften the blow of all the bills!!) Fourth, I am thinking about buying TRAVIS (The Man Who) and David Gray's *new* (only to me folks) CD. I heard a track of it on the plane and I saw it on the Wall of Sound Top 25 list. Any comments or caveats from the hip list population? It's great to see Nelly Furtado and Sarah Harmer getting kudos for fine debuts as well. I get to see Jill Cohn on Saturday before heading for the Big Easy--good food and football INDOORS, the way it was meant to be played! heh, heh. I miss my Kingdome dammit! Don't expect to see MORE Aimee in the AV shows. Let me say this for the final time, be THANKFUL for AV. Touring is very tiring on Aimee. Not having to play the entire set and have the spotlight makes it a little easier on her. I think she is also *entertained a bit* when she has a comedian and Michael playing. Anyone who would NOT go see Aimee just because there is less of a Mann-oriented set shold be ashamed. We have folks salivating in Australia and Europe (well, let's just sya worldwide because Japan is in the mix too) not to mention people in the heartland of America who would *kill* to catch a show, ANY show. Don't be so picky, and open your ears and mind, you might really enjoy the show. On a final note: I didn't think we were really bashing Bush. I have heard and said much worse than what's been said here. I am more eager to bash the *partisan* Supreme Court, but in any event since it's not a politics list, I just say this, no one's comments have *assumed* the entire list is Democrat or liberal any more than a newspaper that prints a "pro any particular* candidate assumes that all of its readers will be liked-minded. These have just been passing comments of opinion, Sean. Sorry you were offended, but then that's why we are supposed to be talking about music. But I have to say this: A Clinton-Gore (the asexual Clinton) ticket would be interesting if not simply historic. Are there term limits on the office of VP??? If so, Gore-Clinton works too. Paul P.S. Missy, the silver lining for me is quite simply G.W. BUSH and DICK Cheney!! The 8th grader in me is delighted! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From cellophane808@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 18:46:34 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f309.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.184]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA21595 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:46:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:46:02 -0800 Received: from 63.210.230.178 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:46:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.210.230.178] From: "Kelly Stitzel" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: my happy day Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:46:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 00:46:02.0880 (UTC) FILETIME=[90CFC800:01C066F9] Reply-To: cellophane808@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Well, I'm just so excited I thought I'd share. I graduated college today (from Miami University in Ohio with a Bachelor's in Creative Writing). Every one says I am now a part of the real world. Well, I worked full time and went to school full time all four years, so I think I've been living in the real world. But it's still exciting. I need a Ghost World, Part II: After College. :) Alright, I'm done now. Kelly _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 19:20:55 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f195.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.195]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA23732 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:20:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:20:23 -0800 Received: from 172.135.54.37 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:20:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.135.54.37] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: congrats to Kelly and Aimee Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:20:23 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 01:20:23.0932 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D4B5BC0:01C066FE] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Woo hoo, Kelly! Time to move to New York and live out the Sex/City fantasy life! Jill talked to Hausman's asst today and we are awaiting SoundScans but Bachelor #2 is still selling in excess of 2,000 units per week. I am sure she will make a full report to the list soon. The numbers look VERY encouraging. Edmund, do you *subjects of the crown* really laugh at anyone??? Shouldn't you guys be preoccupied with recording the Prince of Wales' latest tryst?? Remember, you promised it Aimee became an ex-pat that I could rent a room in your flat. Aimee for Prime Minister!! (since the job of Queen Mother isn't available) >From: "Kelly Stitzel" >>Well, I'm just so excited I thought I'd share. I graduated college >today >(from Miami University in Ohio with a Bachelor's in Creative Writing). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From mariotti@ix.netcom.com Fri Dec 15 19:41:23 2000 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA24245 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:41:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from uspppmariotti (user-2ini87d.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.32.237]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01372 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:38:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Greg Mariotti" To: Subject: Ghost World Video? Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:37:25 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Reply-To: mariotti@ix.netcom.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Does anyone happen to know who directed this? I spoke to PTA in late November and he didn't mention it, but you never know... Thanks Greg Mariotti cigarettes & coffee: the definitive p.t. anderson resource www.ptanderson.com >From jillpw@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 19:43:24 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f125.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.125]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA24498 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:43:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:42:53 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:42:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: congrats to Kelly and Aimee Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:42:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 01:42:53.0681 (UTC) FILETIME=[81CEB610:01C06701] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I don't have much more info except B No. 2 sales are in excess of 130,000 now with over 180,000 shipped. As Paul said, we should have the actual SoundScans next week. Ticket sales for AV in Boston and Philly have been quite good (556 and 400, respectively) but the Birchmere shows are not selling as well (45). Also, the venue in Harrisburg is fairly small. It seats 660. Paul wrote: Jill talked to Hausman's asst today and we are awaiting SoundScans but Bachelor #2 is still selling in excess of 2,000 units per week. I am sure she will make a full report to the list soon. The numbers look VERY encouraging. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Fri Dec 15 20:22:56 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA25766 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:22:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBG2Mvi24815 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:22:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3AD1EC.6010408@ucdavis.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:22:36 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: congrats to Kelly and Aimee References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Jill Weisenfeld wrote: > I don't have much more info except B No. 2 sales are in excess of > 130,000 now with over 180,000 shipped. As Paul said, we should have the > actual SoundScans next week. That sounds great, I assume since I don't know what number would be a good number these numbers look nice and big to me :) Speaking of sales, how has Aimee's other CDs (namely Whatever and IWS) faired in sales? I just like to know how the numbers compare, especially since B#2 isn't being promoted by a big record label like Aimee's previous two solos. Speaking of CDs, I went down to a few music places so I could place the stickers Jill sent me on the older copies of B#2 that don't have them, and I noticed that the evil Ultimate Collection was being placed in much more prominent spots than B#2 in all the stores I went two (okay, 2 stores, Davis is not a big city), and the Borders in my city even had the UC in one of its listening racks (or whatever you call those headphones where you push a number and it plays the CD so you know if the CD is good or not)! Well besides my bio final, that was my other frustration of the day. Take care. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From cellophane808@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 21:34:54 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f147.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.147]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA02010 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:34:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:34:23 -0800 Received: from 63.210.231.165 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 03:34:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.210.231.165] From: "Kelly Stitzel" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: aimee trivia Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:34:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 03:34:23.0782 (UTC) FILETIME=[156B1C60:01C06711] Reply-To: cellophane808@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey guys, In honor of the fact I'll have a lot of time on my hands now, I went and treated myself to this Rock and Roll Trivia cd-rom. Well, I've only played it a few times, but already there has been an Aimee question. This question threw out the names of some bands and wanted you to match them with their female lead singers. Of course, 'Til Tuesday and Aimee were one of the matches. The game is called Backstage Pass and is put out by the same people who make those You Don't Know Jack trivia games (which are cheesy, but fun). This game is pretty easy. There have been very few questions I've gotten wrong. I am impressed that they have at least one Aimee question on there (and a question about Y Kant Tori Read, Tori Amos's hair band in the late 80s). Small and insignificant, but, hey... Kelly _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 15 22:49:18 2000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA07002 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:49:17 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id h.9c.a00a6aa (4411); Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:47:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9c.a00a6aa.276c4df5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:47:49 EST Subject: Re: congrats to Kelly and Aimee To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-15 21:23:14 EST, gerbil@ucdavis.edu writes: > > I don't have much more info except B No. 2 sales are in excess of > > 130,000 now with over 180,000 shipped. As Paul said, we should have the > > actual SoundScans next week. > > That sounds great, I assume since I don't know what number > would be a good number these numbers look nice and big to me :) > > Speaking of sales, how has Aimee's other CDs (namely > Whatever and IWS) faired in sales? I just like to know how > the numbers compare, especially since B#2 isn't being > promoted by a big record label like Aimee's previous two solos. The numbers are excelent, particurally for an indy album, Aimee has a smash hit going with numbers like that. I suspect her other albums are selling well too. Andrea >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Fri Dec 15 22:59:17 2000 Received: from web1405.mail.yahoo.com (web1405.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.169]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id WAA07265 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:59:16 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 22003 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 2000 05:23:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20001216052357.22002.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.88] by web1405.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:23:57 PST Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:23:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: > To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-356426808-976944237=:21043" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-356426808-976944237=:21043 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii to jill and paul b: do you 2 work for aimee or something? how do you talk to aimee's management all the time and know important info b4 everyone else? and are those stickers for bachelor #2 you sent to alex available for everyone? i'll stick them on bachelor #2s in my area if you want lisa --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 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do you 2 work for aimee or something? how do you talk to aimee's management all the time and know important info b4 everyone else?  and are those stickers for bachelor #2 you sent to alex available for everyone?  i'll stick them on bachelor #2s in my area if you want

lisa


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Millions of Products. --0-356426808-976944237=:21043-- >From jillpw@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 23:29:10 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f40.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA08620 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:29:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:28:38 -0800 Received: from 63.31.22.61 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 05:28:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.31.22.61] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:28:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 05:28:38.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B4C5EF0:01C06721] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Paul and I are volunteer coordinators of the SuperEgo Records Street Team which is a group of about 50 of Aimee's fans, mostly Mannlist members, who help promote her music. We would love to have your help. If you would like to join the Street Team send an e-mail with your address to sr_st@hotmail.com. Thanks, Jill Lisa Letostak wrote: >to jill and paul b: > >do you 2 work for aimee or something? how do you talk to aimee's management >all the time and know important info b4 everyone else? and are those >stickers for bachelor #2 you sent to alex available for everyone? i'll >stick them on bachelor #2s in my area if you want _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sat Dec 16 01:00:15 2000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA12490 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:00:13 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.b7.9a9accc (7776); Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:59:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:59:38 EST Subject: Late Late Show To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, Michaelpennlist@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Just got finished watching it, Aimee was wonderful. John Sands On Drums, Buddy on guitar, Michael Hausman on bells, Michael Penn guitar, and wonderful. Can't remember the keyboardists name. Michael Pallas on violin. What a nice early holiday treat. Andrea >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sat Dec 16 01:15:25 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f42.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA13128 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:15:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:14:54 -0800 Received: from 63.25.157.231 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 07:14:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.25.157.231] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: michaelpennlist@egroups.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Late Late Show Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 02:14:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 07:14:54.0572 (UTC) FILETIME=[E39572C0:01C0672F] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN It was great to see Aimee and Michael perform that song. I think the guitar player was Michael Lockwood not Buddy. The keyboard player is Jebin Bruni and Paul Bryan was on bass. Andrea Weiss wrote: >Just got finished watching it, Aimee was wonderful. John Sands On Drums, >Buddy on guitar, Michael Hausman on bells, Michael Penn guitar, and >wonderful. Can't remember the keyboardists name. Michael Pallas on >violin. >What a nice early holiday treat. >Andrea _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sat Dec 16 01:27:39 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA13466 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:27:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.64.99]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001216072701.BGKN2287.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 07:27:01 +0000 Message-ID: <020901c06731$a7613d00$85404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" References: <004701c066f7$8b779880$4a5908c3@m006nb00> Subject: OT President-Elect Bush Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 02:27:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0206_01C06707.BDC1CA80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0206_01C06707.BDC1CA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>The rest of the world is split between being aghast at how Bush stole = the Presidency, scared at what he might do << I'm glad the rest of the worlds scared! Don't worry about us we will be = fine and as always we will be here when we are needed. >>and laughing at Americans... << Our system might not be perfect but it works and I would not change for = any other form of government. I was not a fan of either candidate but I thought that both of them = handled themselves well. This could have been very ugly but was handled = with class. And who if they were in Bush's shoes would have said, "I'm = not going to fight just let Gore have it." Before the election Gore even conceded that he may win the popular vote = but lose the election and he simply said, "That's the system." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Edmund PW=20 To: marley@iopener.net ; mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 7:30 PM Subject: Re: President-Elect Bush > We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson for the rest of the = world. You are kidding aren't you? The rest of the world is split between = being aghast at how Bush stole the Presidency, scared at what he might do = and laughing at Americans for holding an election and not counting all the votes. I hold no candle for Gore, but he got more votes across = America and if all the votes in Florida had been counted, he would surely have got = more there too (else why was Bush so desperate to stop them counting?). ------=_NextPart_000_0206_01C06707.BDC1CA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>The rest of the world is split between being aghast at how = Bush=20 stole the Presidency, scared at what he might do <<
I'm glad the rest of the worlds scared! Don't worry about us we = will be=20 fine and as always we will be here when we are needed.
 
 
>>and laughing at Americans... <<
Our system might not be perfect but it works and I would not change = for any=20 other form of government.
 
I was not a fan of either candidate but I thought that both of them = handled=20 themselves well. This could have been very ugly but was handled with = class. And=20 who if they were in Bush's shoes would have said, "I'm not going to = fight just=20 let Gore have it."
 
Before the election Gore even conceded that he may win the popular = vote but=20 lose the election and he simply said, "That's the system."
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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To: marley@iopener.net ; mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu= =20
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 = 7:30=20 PM
Subject: Re: President-Elect = Bush

>  We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson = for the=20 rest of the world.


You are kidding aren't you?  The = rest of=20 the world is split between being
aghast at how Bush stole the = Presidency,=20 scared at what he might do and
laughing at Americans for holding an = election and not counting all the
votes.  I hold no candle for = Gore,=20 but he got more votes across America and
if all the votes in = Florida had=20 been counted, he would surely have got more
there too (else why was = Bush so=20 desperate to stop them counting?).
------=_NextPart_000_0206_01C06707.BDC1CA80-- >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 01:43:09 2000 Received: from web1402.mail.yahoo.com (web1402.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.166]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id BAA13893 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:43:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001216074307.29418.qmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.223] by web1402.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:43:07 PST Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: Re: Late Late Show To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-496987743-976952587=:26360" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-496987743-976952587=:26360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii their performances were all great, but craig kilborn (sp?) didn't interview her :( AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: Just got finished watching it, Aimee was wonderful. John Sands On Drums, Buddy on guitar, Michael Hausman on bells, Michael Penn guitar, and wonderful. Can't remember the keyboardists name. Michael Pallas on violin. What a nice early holiday treat. Andrea --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-496987743-976952587=:26360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

their performances were all great, but craig kilborn (sp?) didn't interview her

:(

  AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote:

Just got finished watching it, Aimee was wonderful. John Sands On Drums,
Buddy on guitar, Michael Hausman on bells, Michael Penn guitar, and
wonderful. Can't remember the keyboardists name. Michael Pallas on violin.
What a nice early holiday treat.
Andrea


Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-496987743-976952587=:26360-- >From WillTommy@aol.com Sat Dec 16 08:18:57 2000 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA05178 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:18:56 -0600 (CST) From: WillTommy@aol.com Received: from WillTommy@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id i.30.e1f0443 (17377); Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:18:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <30.e1f0443.276cd39f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:18:07 EST Subject: EW Top Ten! To: jillpw@hotmail.com, michaelpennlist@egroups.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_30.e1f0443.276cd39f_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 149 Reply-To: WillTommy@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_30.e1f0443.276cd39f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bachelor # 2 is the #3 album of the year in Entertainment Weekly (and the first female artist mentioned....Grammy nod?)! So far, Top Ten for: Mojo The Onion Wall of Sound Entertainment Weekly Top 50 for: Rolling Stone --part1_30.e1f0443.276cd39f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bachelor # 2 is the #3 album of the year in Entertainment Weekly (and the
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So far, Top Ten for:

Mojo
The Onion
Wall of Sound
Entertainment Weekly

Top 50 for:

Rolling Stone --part1_30.e1f0443.276cd39f_boundary-- >From diri.gini@virgin.net Sat Dec 16 09:16:13 2000 Received: from mta5-svc.virgin.net (mta5-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.45]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id JAA06957 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:16:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.68.67]) by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001216151610.PXRH29672.mta5-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:16:10 +0000 Message-ID: <007c01c06773$4c5df5a0$4344fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: Subject: OT: President-Elect Bush Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:17:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi folks, Thought I'd put my ore in. Paul, you were far too gentlemanly about the British constitution, picking on poor old Charlie boy. At least he takes a look round occasionally and he can't be in it for the money: he's got it all! ;-) No, you get to elect both houses of your legislature; our revisional house is appointed, with a substantial portion of hereditary peers. We really could have someone in parliament, because there grandfather 14 times removed stood in the way of the arrow, which would've otherwise killed the king's sabre tooth hell dog at Agincourt. BUT! Come on admit it - even speaking as I am, from the provinces - it was a farce. Voter intimidation, pregnant whatever's, countless legal wrangling and the buck being passed from court to court. If handling it with class means that no one actually shot anyone, then yes, it was handled with class. Beachbum: >...and as always we will be here when we are needed. Do you really think that's how the rest of the world sees the USA, after the Kosovo farce? We see you as a global policeman with neither the wisdom nor courage to act. Why do you think we're creating the European Rapid Reaction Force? > Our system might not be perfect but it works and > I would not change for any other form of government. Hmmm... so much for the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Sean: >The Presidency just doesn't hold as much power and > we seem to imbue it with. Let me see if I've got you right. You say you shouldn't worry, because one of the two major executives you elect, doesn't have the influence it used to. As a democrat, don't you think that you should worry where all this influence is going, if it's not wealded by a directly elected representative? With increasing globalisation, more and more power is being rested from elected bodies to lay in the palms of corporations. There isn't a democrat in the world with the right to be smug. (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From marley@iopener.net Sat Dec 16 11:00:06 2000 Received: from mta2.iopener.net ([216.140.180.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA12040 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:00:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from [4.48.31.119] by mta2.iopener.net (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license a9859249478f4710c1a6189b1fb00066) with SMTP id <20001216165934.ZZYO3607.mta2@[4.48.31.119]> for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:59:34 -0600 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:58:48 -0600 From: Sean Roper Subject: OT: President-Elect Bush Message-ID: Reply-To: marley@iopener.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN A few comments, then I'll butt out. Wrote it yesteday, so the late show comment is dated. Very cool to see Aimee do the x-mas duet last night. I only wish she would have been inteviewed, but then Killbourne would't have been able to hit on her as well as the company he had. On with the politics. Comments on the post of Edmund PW 1. The world is not scared at what Bush might do. I don't know what gave you that idea. 2. If the rest of the world feels Bush stole the election, they are mistaken. Our electoral system has been in place in it's current form for 213 years. If you have fault with the constitution, then elect those who want to change it. But don't blame a candidate for leveraging it. Gore got more votes, no doubt about it. But that's just not how the rules are set up. You can't change the rules in the middle of a contest just because you aren't happy with the outcome. 3. There were over 100,000 ballots tossed out in my county alone. Florida is no special case. What all this establishes is that the lack of uniform counting procedures nationwide is indeed a problem. But letting one state count, re-count, and count again is unfare to the rest of the country and constitutionally questionable. 4. The Vice-President has no one to blame but himself. He came out of the August convention with fire behind him, a real drive, but his inability to campain of his own accord and the general distrust many feel for him bit into his lead. The campain should have been a no-brainer for him. He ran against the most beatable candidate since his father beat Dukakis in 88. It should never have come to Florida. Let's wait till the inauguration is over and see if the democratic party is driving toward changing the electoral process. Don't count on it, it has benefitted them as well, just ask Nixon in '60. Should we have an electoral college. Probably not. It can be argued that not having one would lead a candidate to hit the major metropolitain areas, suck up a few unions, and take an election be ignoring the south. If i ran as a democrat in a system without an electoral college, that's exactly what I would do. Guess who's vote wouldn't count? Florida again. No matter what the nation decides, it will never be perfect. Our strength as a nation comes from accepting the results without bloodshed or revolution. What we do is get up off the mat, strap our gloves back on, and wait untill the next election where hopefully, we can land the knockout blow. Sorry, I got a little wordy. Don't even want to imagine the typos from this lousy keyboard. Take it easy and don't forget Aimee on the Late, Late show tonight. Sean Edmund PW wrote: > > > We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson for the rest of the world. > > > You are kidding aren't you? The rest of the world is split between being > aghast at how Bush stole the Presidency, scared at what he might do and > laughing at Americans for holding an election and not counting all the > votes. I hold no candle for Gore, but he got more votes across America and > if all the votes in Florida had been counted, he would surely have got more > there too (else why was Bush so desperate to stop them counting?). > --------- End Original Message --------- >From DMedsker@aol.com Sat Dec 16 11:09:25 2000 Received: from imo-r16.mail.aol.com (imo-r16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA12320 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:09:24 -0600 (CST) From: DMedsker@aol.com Received: from DMedsker@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.a8.e8c073e (4461) for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:08:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:08:53 EST Subject: Ugh To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 109 Reply-To: DMedsker@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN So I'm whipping through the digest and I see this. > > We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson for the rest of the world. > > You are kidding aren't you? Stop it, right now. I think the original point was a good one. First of all, the Mannlist is not a format for slamming politicians, and it is very presumptuous for anyone to think because we all like Aimee, that we all have the same political views as well. We don't. Did you see The Onion the week after the election? The headline read "Bush Rebels Seize White House, Nation's Capital in Flames." It was funny because that happens all the time in other parts of the world, but will never happen here. The way this process was handled was indeed a good example for the rest of the world, whether or not you agree with the process or the results. No more Bush slamming, no more Gore slamming. It's over, let's move on. Let's stick to music, shall we? DAM >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sat Dec 16 12:13:18 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA16137 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:13:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.90.89]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001216181244.FAQX2287.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz>; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:12:44 +0000 Message-ID: <028201c0678b$cae51620$85404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" , References: Subject: Re: President-Elect Bush Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:12:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_027F_01C06761.E12BB300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_027F_01C06761.E12BB300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BRAVO ! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sean Roper=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 11:58 AM Subject: OT: President-Elect Bush A few comments, then I'll butt out. Wrote it yesteday, so the late = show comment is dated. Very cool to see Aimee do the x-mas duet last = night. I only wish she would have been inteviewed, but then Killbourne = would't have been able to hit on her as well as the company he had. On with the politics. Comments on the post of Edmund PW 1. The world is not scared at what Bush might do. I don't know what = gave you that idea. 2. If the rest of the world feels Bush stole the election, they are = mistaken. Our electoral system has been in place in it's current form = for 213 years. If you have fault with the constitution, then elect = those who want to change it. But don't blame a candidate for leveraging = it. Gore got more votes, no doubt about it. But that's just not how = the rules are set up. You can't change the rules in the middle of a = contest just because you aren't happy with the outcome. 3. There were over 100,000 ballots tossed out in my county alone. = Florida is no special case. What all this establishes is that the lack = of uniform counting procedures nationwide is indeed a problem. But = letting one state count, re-count, and count again is unfare to the rest = of the country and constitutionally questionable. 4. The Vice-President has no one to blame but himself. He came out = of the August convention with fire behind him, a real drive, but his = inability to campain of his own accord and the general distrust many = feel for him bit into his lead. The campain should have been a = no-brainer for him. He ran against the most beatable candidate since = his father beat Dukakis in 88. It should never have come to Florida. Let's wait till the inauguration is over and see if the democratic = party is driving toward changing the electoral process. Don't count on = it, it has benefitted them as well, just ask Nixon in '60. Should we = have an electoral college. Probably not. It can be argued that not = having one would lead a candidate to hit the major metropolitain areas, = suck up a few unions, and take an election be ignoring the south. If i = ran as a democrat in a system without an electoral college, that's = exactly what I would do. Guess who's vote wouldn't count? Florida = again. No matter what the nation decides, it will never be perfect. = Our strength as a nation comes from accepting the results without = bloodshed or revolution. What we do is get up off the mat, strap our = gloves back on, and wait untill the next election where hopefully, we = can land the knockout blow. Sorry, I got a little wordy. Don't even want to imagine the typos = from this lousy keyboard. =20 Take it easy and don't forget Aimee on the Late, Late show tonight. Sean Edmund PW wrote: >=20 > > We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson for the rest of the = world. >=20 >=20 > You are kidding aren't you? The rest of the world is split between = being > aghast at how Bush stole the Presidency, scared at what he might do = and > laughing at Americans for holding an election and not counting all = the > votes. I hold no candle for Gore, but he got more votes across = America and > if all the votes in Florida had been counted, he would surely have = got more > there too (else why was Bush so desperate to stop them counting?). >=20 --------- End Original Message --------- ------=_NextPart_000_027F_01C06761.E12BB300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
BRAVO !
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sean = Roper=20
Sent: Saturday, December 16, = 2000 11:58=20 AM
Subject: OT: President-Elect = Bush

A few comments, then I'll butt out.  Wrote it = yesteday, so=20 the late show comment is dated.  Very cool to see Aimee do the = x-mas duet=20 last night.  I only wish she would have been inteviewed, but then = Killbourne would't have been able to hit on her as well as the company = he=20 had.

On with the politics.  Comments on the post of Edmund = PW

1. The world is not scared at what Bush might do.  I = don't know=20 what gave you that idea.

2. If the rest of the world feels Bush = stole=20 the election, they are mistaken.  Our electoral system has been = in place=20 in it's current form for 213 years.  If you have fault with the=20 constitution, then elect those who want to change it.  But don't = blame a=20 candidate for leveraging it.  Gore got more votes, no doubt about = it.  But that's just not how the rules are set up.  You = can't change=20 the rules in the middle of a contest just because you aren't happy = with the=20 outcome.

3. There were over 100,000 ballots tossed out in my = county=20 alone.  Florida is no special case.  What all this = establishes is=20 that the lack of uniform counting procedures nationwide is indeed a=20 problem.  But letting one state count, re-count, and count again = is=20 unfare to the rest of the country and constitutionally=20 questionable.

4.  The Vice-President has no one to blame = but=20 himself.  He came out of the August convention with fire behind = him, a=20 real drive, but his inability to campain of his own accord and the = general=20 distrust many feel for him bit into his lead.  The campain should = have=20 been a no-brainer for him.  He ran against the most beatable = candidate=20 since his father beat Dukakis in 88.  It should never have come = to=20 Florida.

Let's wait till the inauguration is over and see if = the=20 democratic party is driving toward changing the electoral = process.  Don't=20 count on it, it has benefitted them as well, just ask Nixon in = '60. =20 Should we have an electoral college.  Probably not.  It can = be=20 argued that not having one would lead a candidate to hit the major=20 metropolitain areas, suck up a few unions, and take an election be = ignoring=20 the south.  If i ran as a democrat in a system without an = electoral=20 college, that's exactly what I would do.  Guess who's vote = wouldn't=20 count?  Florida again.  No matter what the nation decides, = it will=20 never be perfect.  Our strength as a nation comes from accepting = the=20 results without bloodshed or revolution.  What we do is get up = off the=20 mat, strap our gloves back on, and wait untill the next election where = hopefully, we can land the knockout blow.

Sorry, I got a little = wordy.  Don't even want to imagine the typos from this lousy=20 keyboard. 

Take it easy and don't forget Aimee on the = Late, Late=20 show tonight.

Sean

Edmund PW wrote:
 > =
 >=20 >  We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson for the rest of = the=20 world.
 >
 >
 > You are kidding = aren't=20 you?  The rest of the world is split between being
 > = aghast=20 at how Bush stole the Presidency, scared at what he might do = and
 >=20 laughing at Americans for holding an election and not counting all=20 the
 > votes.  I hold no candle for Gore, but he got = more=20 votes across America and
 > if all the votes in Florida had = been=20 counted, he would surely have got more
 > there too (else = why was=20 Bush so desperate to stop them counting?).
 > =


---------=20 End Original Message ---------

------=_NextPart_000_027F_01C06761.E12BB300-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sat Dec 16 12:15:16 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA16408 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:15:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.90.89]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001216181444.FAYV2287.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:14:44 +0000 Message-ID: <028b01c0678c$12533820$85404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" References: Subject: OT - Ugh Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:14:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0288_01C06762.28CDB640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0288_01C06762.28CDB640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>It's over, let's move on. Let's stick to music, shall we?<< That's why we have the "OT" ! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DMedsker@aol.com=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 12:08 PM Subject: Ugh So I'm whipping through the digest and I see this. > > We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson for the rest of the = world. > =20 > You are kidding aren't you?=20 Stop it, right now. I think the original point was a good one. First = of all,=20 the Mannlist is not a format for slamming politicians, and it is very=20 presumptuous for anyone to think because we all like Aimee, that we = all have=20 the same political views as well. We don't.=20 Did you see The Onion the week after the election? The headline read = "Bush=20 Rebels Seize White House, Nation's Capital in Flames." It was funny = because=20 that happens all the time in other parts of the world, but will never = happen=20 here. The way this process was handled was indeed a good example for = the rest=20 of the world, whether or not you agree with the process or the = results.=20 No more Bush slamming, no more Gore slamming. It's over, let's move = on. Let's=20 stick to music, shall we? DAM ------=_NextPart_000_0288_01C06762.28CDB640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>It's over, let's move on. Let's stick to music, shall=20 we?<<
That's why we have the "OT" !
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DMedsker@aol.com=20
Sent: Saturday, December 16, = 2000 12:08=20 PM
Subject: Ugh

So I'm whipping through the digest and I see = this.

>=20 >  We should hold our heads up, it's a lesson for the rest of = the=20 world.
> 
>  You are kidding aren't you? =

Stop=20 it, right now. I think the original point was a good one. First of = all,=20
the Mannlist is not a format for slamming politicians, and it is = very=20
presumptuous for anyone to think because we all like Aimee, that = we all=20 have
the same political views as well. We don't.

Did you = see The=20 Onion the week after the election? The headline read "Bush
Rebels = Seize=20 White House, Nation's Capital in Flames." It was funny because =
that=20 happens all the time in other parts of the world, but will never = happen=20
here. The way this process was handled was indeed a good example = for the=20 rest
of the world, whether or not you agree with the process or = the=20 results.

No more Bush slamming, no more Gore slamming. It's = over,=20 let's move on. Let's
stick to music, shall=20 we?

DAM
------=_NextPart_000_0288_01C06762.28CDB640-- >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sat Dec 16 12:33:50 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA17510 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:33:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.90.89]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001216183317.FEWS2287.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:33:17 +0000 Message-ID: <029a01c0678e$a977edc0$85404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: B#2 XMas Blues.... Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:33:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0297_01C06764.BFFA0D00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0297_01C06764.BFFA0D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As I member of the Street team I received my stickers yesterday and set = out to be a good soldier. I went to two record stores (chain stores) = plus Wal Mart and Kmart.=20 The Kmart music department was a disgrace to our capitalistic society! = Countries that censor their music have a better selection. Unless of = course you want a CD with a young bimbo or cute little boy band on the = cover!=20 Not only did I not find B#2 I did not find any Aimee Mann CD or TT. I = knew better than to say anything at the "marts" but at the first record = store I asked. "We concentrate on artists who are selling!" I asked her = how she would no if it was selling if she did not have any copies. And = if she did have any copies they most have sold them so what does that = say? Wanting to move on she grabbed a pen and asked me, "What was her = name again?". I said Aimee Mann the artist who did the music for = Magnolia.=20 "That movie sucked!"=20 "That's your opinion. But it's a really good reason not to carry her CD. = I'm sure all your customers share your lack of taste. But that's just my = opinion." I replied very sarcastically and I walked out. I can't help but wonder how many more copies Aimee would sell if she was = on the self everywhere.... ------=_NextPart_000_0297_01C06764.BFFA0D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
As I member of the Street team I received my stickers yesterday and = set out=20 to be a good soldier. I went to two record stores (chain stores) = plus Wal=20 Mart and Kmart.
 
The Kmart music department was a disgrace to our capitalistic = society!=20 Countries that censor their music have a better selection. Unless of = course you=20 want a CD with a young bimbo or cute little boy band on the cover! =
 
Not only did I not find B#2 I did not find any Aimee Mann CD or TT. = I knew=20 better than to say anything at the "marts" but at the first record store = I=20 asked. "We concentrate on artists who are selling!" I asked her how she = would no=20 if it was selling if she did not have any copies. And if she did have = any copies=20 they most have sold them so what does that say? Wanting to move on she = grabbed a=20 pen and asked me, "What was her name again?". I said Aimee Mann the = artist who=20 did the music for Magnolia.
"That movie sucked!"
"That's your opinion. But it's a really good reason not to carry = her CD.=20 I'm sure all your customers share your lack of taste. But that's just my = opinion." I replied very sarcastically and I walked out.
 
I can't help but wonder how many more copies Aimee would sell if = she was on=20 the self everywhere....
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0297_01C06764.BFFA0D00-- >From fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 13:01:45 2000 Received: from web10807.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.130.249]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id NAA19003 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:01:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001216190144.75726.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.247.198.41] by web10807.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:01:44 PST Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:01:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mann Fann Subject: Cutting Michael some slack :) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello to all on the list...I just wanted to post a quick thought about some of the commentary I've read about Michael Penn joining Aimee during the concerts. Now I must say first that I know where all of you Aimee-only people are coming from. You love Aimee, and you want to see HER. Totally understandable. BUT...has anyone noticed the LARGE difference between a solo Aimee show and an Acoustic vaudeville show? Granted, she always does and always will kick ass under any circumstances, but Aimee seems much more subdued in her solo shows than AV shows. When she's by herself, she just doesn't seem quite as into it...you get the impression that she is there to do a job and be done for the night. But add to the mix the man she loves and some raunchy humor, and it's a totally different Aimee. She peps up, they are laughing almost constantly between songs, and she joins Michael either singing or playing on most of his songs. She is, in general, a much happier Aimee. So, all I'm saying is, let's give Michael a break! He has some great tunes himself, and I must say he completely won me over on the AV tour at the beginning of the year. He is funny, charming, and he rocks...so any of you still wanting to bail on the AV shows because there isn't enough Aimee...isn't some Aimee better than NO Aimee?!? Fann __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sat Dec 16 13:09:42 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA19202 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:09:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBGJ9mi17643; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:09:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3BBDF2.2090908@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:09:38 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net CC: Mannlist Subject: Re: B#2 XMas Blues.... References: <029a01c0678e$a977edc0$85404f0c@hfpyz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN That's why I either shop online, or go to a REAL music store, and every real music store I've been to, so far, has carried Aimee :) I think I mentioned before that my frustration, when going out with the stickers, was finding how much more prominently placed the UC was ::sigh:: -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sat Dec 16 13:27:37 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA19625 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:27:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBGJRii18646 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:27:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3BC227.5050706@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:27:35 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mannlist Subject: OT: Happy Holidays (and other stuff) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Just wanted to wish everyone Happy Holidays, and I'm speaking in general whether you celebrate Christmas, Chanukah, Ramadan, Kawanza, some other holiday or no holiday at all is just fine. Just wanted to say that early, since tomorrow I'm flying to LA and be there for 2 weeks. This means I won't be able to check my email or go online much. If you send me a picture for the MannListers page, I might not be able to put your picture up until after I come back. For those who are new, I maintain a MannListers gallery with pictures of what some of us on this list look like: http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/netscape6/usingns607.php Just attach your picture with a little description/caption, maybe what city/state/country that you live in, then send! And I'm going to try to catch a few shows at the Largo for the first time. If anyone wants to know, Michael Penn and Jon Brion are playing there next week on two separate days. WHOOHOO! That will give me something to do to pass the time ... if I could figure out how to get there. Take care all, and have a very Aimee New Year (meaning that I hope her concerts roll into your area ... and hopefully mine too!)! -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From gaingber@grendel.noc.sbc.edu Sat Dec 16 13:44:52 2000 Received: from grendel.noc.sbc.edu (IDENT:root@grendel.noc.sbc.edu [198.28.62.80]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA20372 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:44:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.28.41.215] (41-215.host.sbc.edu [198.28.41.215]) by grendel.noc.sbc.edu (2.1.2/8.9.1/Execmail 2.1) with ESMTP id OAA12667 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:44:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gaingber@grendel.sbc.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:42:51 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Greg Ingber Subject: Re: OT: President-Elect Bush Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: gaingber@grendel.noc.sbc.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This really should be taken elsewhere, if but if this sort of propaganda is going to be spread via the list, then I feel a reluctant need to respond. > >2. If the rest of the world feels Bush stole the election, they are >mistaken. Our electoral system has been in place in it's current >form for 213 years. I think you should know that this has absolutely nothing to do with the electoral college. People are not saying Bush stole the election because he lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote. People are saying Bush stole the election because of a wide spread pattern of illegalities surrounding the elections in Florida. When you have state troopers setting up road blocks in front of black churches used as polling places, asking car pooling groups of black voters whether or not they have a "taxi license," then you have a fairly substantial complaint. You also have a complaint when a company run by Texas republicans sends lists of "convicted felons" to Florida polling places so they may be stricken from the list of possible voters... but then it turns out that THOUSANDS of names on this list were not convicted felons at all, they just happened to be disproportionally black. There were other incidents involving black voters being harrassed at the polls or turned away entirely, leading me to believe that maybe George W. and Jed Bush feel that black people in Florida should ALL be denied the right vote. This, however, is not the LAW in the United States, nor in the state of Florida. (But I suppose the "rule of law" is only relevant when you have Scalia and Thomas on the Supreme Court, the former having a son that works for Bush, the latter having a wife working for Bush.) Did everyone have their day in court? Well, Palm Beach county voters did, but by the time the disenfranchised black voters (currently represented by the NAACP) have their day, Bush will probably have nominated 3 or 4 conservative supreme court justices, thereby ensuring that no one will ever be held responsible for any of the fraud that went on in that state. Going back to your quote in a previous email: > >and as always [America] will be here when we are needed > How the hell are we supposed to encourage and develop democracy throughout the world, when we have a president who was very likely NOT elected through a fair and democratic process? -greg I apologise for responding to this over the list, but I am already angry enough about the way the media is covering all this without having to have it fed to me thru the mannlist as well. >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sat Dec 16 14:28:08 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f221.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.221]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA22264 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:28:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:27:37 -0800 Received: from 63.31.22.239 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:27:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.31.22.239] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: B#2 XMas Blues.... Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:27:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 20:27:37.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[A18474C0:01C0679E] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Andy's experience is not unique but in many many stores Street Teamers have encountered Aimee Mann fans. So Andy,...I wouldn't be too discouraged. You may have better luck with other stores. Yesterday, I visited an independent and a Coconuts when I went out for lunch. In both places the managers know me by now and reported that the CD is still selling. At the Independent (Nathan Muchnik's On Chestnut Street) the poster display is still up and the Bachelor No. 2 CDs are in a prominent location on the wall. At Coconuts (also on Chestnut) they were out of the CD but the manager said he had more on order and I left some stickers with him. Jill Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sat Dec 16 14:43:47 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA23252 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:43:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.90.89]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001216204314.GHIH2287.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz>; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:43:14 +0000 Message-ID: <02c301c067a0$cbc53060$85404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" , References: <20001216190144.75726.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:43:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02C0_01C06776.E20D53E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02C0_01C06776.E20D53E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let's also remember that if Michael was not playing with Aimee she would = have a warm up band during which time she would not even be on stage. = With AV she's singing background and playing instruments. It all works = out the same pretty much. I don't know what I've disliked most the past couple weeks on here. = Bush-bashing, USA-Bashing or Michael bashing. I think it all sucks! "There was nothing to say, but you said something anyway." Aimee Mann ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mann Fann=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 2:01 PM Subject: Cutting Michael some slack :) Hello to all on the list...I just wanted to post a quick thought about some of the commentary I've read about Michael Penn joining Aimee during the concerts. Now I must say first that I know where all of you Aimee-only people are coming from. You love Aimee, and you want to see HER. Totally understandable. BUT...has anyone noticed the LARGE difference between a solo Aimee show and an Acoustic vaudeville show? Granted, she always does and always will kick ass under any circumstances, but Aimee seems much more subdued in her solo shows than AV shows. When she's by herself, she just doesn't seem quite as into it...you get the impression that she is there to do a job and be done for the night. But add to the mix the man she loves and some raunchy humor, and it's a totally different Aimee. She peps up, they are laughing almost constantly between songs, and she joins Michael either singing or playing on most of his songs. She is, in general, a much happier Aimee. So, all I'm saying is, let's give Michael a break! He has some great tunes himself, and I must say he completely won me over on the AV tour at the beginning of the year. He is funny, charming, and he rocks...so any of you still wanting to bail on the AV shows because there isn't enough Aimee...isn't some Aimee better than NO Aimee?!? Fann __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_02C0_01C06776.E20D53E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Let's also remember that if Michael was not playing with Aimee she = would=20 have a warm up band during which time she would not even be on stage. = With AV=20 she's singing background and playing instruments. It all works out the = same=20 pretty much.
 
I don't know what I've disliked most the past couple weeks on here. = Bush-bashing, USA-Bashing or Michael bashing. I think it all = sucks!
 
"There was nothing to say, but you said something anyway."
Aimee Mann
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mann=20 Fann
Sent: Saturday, December 16, = 2000 2:01=20 PM
Subject: Cutting Michael some = slack=20 :)

Hello to all on the list...I just wanted to post = a
quick=20 thought about some of the commentary I've read
about Michael Penn = joining=20 Aimee during the concerts.
Now I must say first that I know where = all of=20 you
Aimee-only people are coming from. You love Aimee, and
you = want to=20 see HER. Totally understandable.

BUT...has anyone noticed the = LARGE=20 difference between
a solo Aimee show and an Acoustic vaudeville=20 show?
Granted, she always does and always will kick ass
under = any=20 circumstances, but Aimee seems much more
subdued in her solo shows = than AV=20 shows. When she's by
herself, she just doesn't seem quite as into=20 it...you
get the impression that she is there to do a job and
be = done=20 for the night. But add to the mix the man she
loves and some = raunchy humor,=20 and it's a totally
different Aimee. She peps up, they are laughing=20 almost
constantly between songs, and she joins Michael = either
singing or=20 playing on most of his songs. She is, in
general, a much happier=20 Aimee.

So, all I'm saying is, let's give Michael a break! = He
has=20 some great tunes himself, and I must say he
completely won me over = on the=20 AV tour at the beginning
of the year. He is funny, charming, and he = rocks...so
any of you still wanting to bail on the AV = shows
because=20 there isn't enough Aimee...isn't some Aimee
better than NO=20 = Aimee?!?

Fann

_____________________________________________= _____
Do=20 You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of=20 Products.
http://shopping.yahoo.com/
------=_NextPart_000_02C0_01C06776.E20D53E0-- >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sat Dec 16 14:49:05 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA23875 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:49:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBGKnCi24307 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:49:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3BD53F.9080908@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:49:03 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Mannlist Subject: Re: OT: Happy Holidays (and other stuff) References: <3A3BC227.5050706@ucdavis.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN oops, I copied and pasted the wrong URL, sorry. This is the page to the MannListers page: http://www.gerbilbox.com/mannlisters/index.html Stupid me. I just typed part of the URL in my browser and expected the autocomplete to give me the right address, but unfortunately it didn't. Thanks Missy. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From ldphill@earthlink.net Sat Dec 16 15:01:22 2000 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA24450 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:01:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (sdn-ar-002txfworP083.dialsprint.net [168.191.159.171]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA03464; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:01:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <011d01c067a4$8bfec140$ab9fbfa8@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: <20001216190144.75726.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> <02c301c067a0$cbc53060$85404f0c@hfpyz> Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:09:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011A_01C06772.3FA84960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C06772.3FA84960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a very simple solution to this problem, of course... VOTE PENN IN 2004!!! Lauren ----- Original Message -----=20 From: beachbum13=20 To: Mannlist ; fann_of_mann@yahoo.com=20 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 2:43 PM Subject: Cutting Us some slack! :) ...I don't know what I've disliked most the past couple weeks on here. = Bush-bashing, USA-Bashing or Michael bashing. I think it all sucks! ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C06772.3FA84960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There's a very simple solution to this = problem, of=20 course...
 
VOTE PENN IN 2004!!!
 
Lauren
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 beachbum13
To: Mannlist ; fann_of_mann@yahoo.com =
Sent: Saturday, December 16, = 2000 2:43=20 PM
Subject: Cutting Us some slack! = :)
 
...I don't know what I've disliked most the past couple weeks on = here.=20 Bush-bashing, USA-Bashing or Michael bashing. I think it all=20 sucks!
------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C06772.3FA84960-- >From Mallettdove@aol.com Sat Dec 16 15:09:26 2000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA24684 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:09:25 -0600 (CST) From: Mallettdove@aol.com Received: from Mallettdove@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id q.55.ed3a6d2 (4353); Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:08:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <55.ed3a6d2.276d33e1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:08:49 EST Subject: Re: OT: President-Elect Bush To: marley@iopener.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: Mallettdove@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/16/00 12:01:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, marley@iopener.net writes: << Our electoral system has been in place in it's current form for 213 years. If you have fault with the constitution, then elect those who want to change it. But don't blame a candidate for leveraging it. Gore got more votes, no doubt about it. But that's just not how the rules are set up. >> Just because something has been around for long time doesn't mean it is the best thing in a given situation. Times change and so should certain laws concerning our election process. You better believe that I did vote for those I thought would make a difference. However, it is a scary situation when we have a candidate who did win the popular vote but who does not win the election. That means a majority of the people in America voted for him and he should have been the victor. However, what we have here is a set-up in Florida where the governor just happens to be the candidate's little brother, a secretary of state who just happens to be appointed by the candidate's little brother, an antiquated system of voting designed specifically to confuse those who intended to vote Democratic by not placing the candidates' names in a uniform way on the ballot (the democratic candidates should always come second, but instead Buchanan was slipped in there) and a president who was not elected by the will of the people but by the Supreme Court. How would you feel if your vote wasn't counted? Thousands weren't. Anyone who doesn't want a recount is afraid of what the results might yield. And when you say that Bush used 'leverage' to win, I guess you are saying that the end justifies the means. It's ok to do whatever you have to do, trick people, throw out votes, whatever, as long as you manipulate things so you win 'according to the law'. Well that is morally reprehensible to me. The end does not justify the means. How could this have fairly been rectified? Well, if good ole George Dubya didn't want a recount because it was too difficult to determine voter intent, perhaps Florida should have had a revote. After all, if Bush truely was the winner, he would have had nothing to worry about. Not enough time you say? Well maybe we should get it right and not try to rush to the wrong conclusion because we are in too much of a hurry. After all, the presidency is a four year term. Better to introduce some type of legislation to extend the election process due to extenuating circumstances rather than rush to an inaccurate judgement. Our Constitution is a wonderful piece of work with a built-in safeguard to keep it current with the changing times. It's called The Bill of Rights. It has been ammended over the years and I believe it's time to take a close look at it again, because what happened during the election of 2000 should never ever happen again. And that's my .02 cents. >From Mallettdove@aol.com Sat Dec 16 15:15:24 2000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA24928 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:15:23 -0600 (CST) From: Mallettdove@aol.com Received: from Mallettdove@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.77.da0d854 (4353); Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:14:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <77.da0d854.276d354a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:14:50 EST Subject: Re: Ugh To: DMedsker@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: Mallettdove@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/16/00 12:10:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, DMedsker@aol.com writes: << No more Bush slamming, no more Gore slamming. It's over, let's move on. Let's stick to music, shall we? >> Sorry, just venting. >From Mallettdove@aol.com Sat Dec 16 15:19:43 2000 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA25294 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:19:42 -0600 (CST) From: Mallettdove@aol.com Received: from Mallettdove@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id s.6a.98cd39e (4353); Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:18:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6a.98cd39e.276d362d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:18:37 EST Subject: Re: OT: President-Elect Bush To: gaingber@grendel.noc.sbc.edu, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: Mallettdove@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/16/00 2:45:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, gaingber@grendel.noc.sbc.edu writes: << How the hell are we supposed to encourage and develop democracy throughout the world, when we have a president who was very likely NOT elected through a fair and democratic process? >> BRAVO, Greg! >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sat Dec 16 15:29:08 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f28.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.28]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA25841 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:29:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:28:37 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:28:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: 103125.1703@compuserve.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: Sarah Harmer's CD Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:28:37 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 21:28:37.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[26BF6250:01C067A7] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I went by the music store today and they have one copy left of Sarah H.'s CD at the $5 price. Let me know if anyone wants it. It would come to $7 after shipping. ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister "Though you pay for the hand they're shaking Speeches and the mistakes they're making As they struggle with the undertaking of simple thought" Aimee Mann "You're With Stupid Now" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Sat Dec 16 15:51:05 2000 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA26926 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:51:04 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.6a.98c4823 (4509) for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:50:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6a.98c4823.276d3d9b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:50:19 EST Subject: Re: Late Late Show & Michael Penn slight To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 126 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Yes, It WAS Michael Lockwood on guitar. Very nice performance by Aimee and Michael. However, I thought it was VERY rude that when Craig Kilborn thanked his guests at the end of the show, he thanked Aimee Mann but made no mention of Michael Penn at all! Steve In a message dated 12/15/00 11:16:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, jillpw@hotmail.com writes: << I think the guitar player was Michael Lockwood not Buddy. >> >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sat Dec 16 16:26:37 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f281.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.156]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA27977 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:26:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:26:06 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:26:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Article: The disappearing popular songwriter Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:26:06 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 22:26:06.0355 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E817E30:01C067AF] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is long, but interesting. Michael Penn is interviewed. Title: The disappearing popular songwriter By Elysa Gardner, USA TODAY NEW YORK - It's after 3 o'clock on a late-summer afternoon in downtown Manhattan, and Joan Osborne is finally ordering lunch. Osborne has been busily promoting her new album, Righteous Love, the long-awaited follow-up to her 1995 major-label debut, the multiplatinum Relish. The delay, she explains, was because of a number of factors, including Mercury Records' decision to drop her in 1999  only three years after she garnered seven Grammy nominations and graced the cover of Rolling Stone. Joni Mitchell 'Big Yellow Taxi' 'The Circle Game' James Taylor 'You've Got a Friend' Osborne muses that label executives "might have lumped me in with a Lilith Fair moment that they thought was over," alluding to the concert tour that became a media metaphor for the critical and commercial success of young female singer/songwriters in the mid-to-late '90s. "But I don't think my time has passed because I'm a woman who sings and writes songs." Fast-forward about four months, to the present. Righteous Love, which arrived in stores Sept. 12, has sold fewer than 80,000 copies, despite glowing notices and numerous high-profile television appearances.Certainly, it's too early to proclaim the album a dud, or to issue a postmortem on Osborne's career. The singer notes, "An artist can have loyal fans and a legitimate career without being on the cover of every magazine at a given moment." Still, it could be argued that the relatively slow progress of Osborne's latest CD highlights a trend that has affected similar artists, both male and female, in recent years. As bubblegum pop and more aggressive forms of rock and hip-hop have gained commercial clout, the singer/songwriter- that folk-based breed whose stock in trade is the ability to craft and deliver songs - is becoming less prominent on magazine covers and, more significantly, radio playlists. Prefab and image-driven acts have, of course, always played a key part in rock 'n' roll. But since the '60s, the singer/songwriter has, in various guises, also managed to remain a forceful presence in rock music and culture. Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, James Taylor, Joni Mitchell, Carole King, Stevie Wonder, Elton John and others shared the public's fascination along with The Monkees and Alice Cooper. Creatively autonomous stars as diverse as Bruce Springsteen and Elvis Costello, Prince and Tracy Chapman, Sinead O'Connor and Sheryl Crow followed. But radio is seemingly less friendly for many of those artists and their would-be successors today. Even contemporary stations that have traditionally embraced singer/songwriters are relying more on boy bands and baby divas. Sean Ross, editor of radio magazine Airplay Monitor, points to the cyclical nature of pop charts and playlists. "Eventually, radio turns on anything that it plays a lot of," he says. "I guess the cycle turns on what (programmers) get sick of." Over the past two years, Ross says, that has led to a backlash against some female singer/songwriters who came to the fore in the Lilith era. "When the last Jewel album came out, there was only one hit. The last Alanis Morissette album didn't have many hits, either." Ross also identifies "a generational split that has affected some older rock artists. You have 26-year-old (program directors) who don't want to play Billy Joel or Don Henley." Actually, Henley's current album, the platinum Inside Job, is one of thefew CDs released by baby-boomer singer/songwriters recently - Sting's double-platinum 1999 effort, Brand New Day, is another - that has shown tenacity on the commercial airwaves. But Henley remains concerned about the state of radio and about what the declining profiles of singer/songwriters - artists who often develop careers more slowly than other pop sensations, and who are valued for injecting thoughtfulness and social commentary into pop music - may reflect about the music business and society at large. Overfed and undernourished "I don't begrudge the kids their teeny-bopper music," Henley says. "But I have a concern about the balance on radio and in the marketplace. There should be a wide spectrum out there. But it seems we're not living in a very philosophical or introspective time. There are a lot of young people who are socially minded, but many of them are laboring in relative obscurity. The emphasis is now on exhibitionism. That's always been true to a certain degree in rock 'n' roll, but I've never quite seen things reach this level of form over content. "I think we're living in an age of unbridled capitalism. And as we're seeing the (music) industry become more and more caught up in the global corporate machinery, we're seeing less support for art and more support for artifice." Paul Simon, who also recently released an album, the widely praised You're the One, perceives a similar dynamic. "There's no dearth of people who are producing beautiful and satisfying music for every taste," he says. "But that diversity of talent is not reflected in the corporate culture. "The problem is that what radio lays out isn't broad enough. That's because radio owners are concerned about revenue, and revenue is decided by creating demographic groups and serving those groups a certain menu, repeatedly, so that they end up overfed and undernourished." For James Taylor, this problem is exacerbated by the "merger mania" that has seen record companies folding into conglomerates. "When I was coming up, the business was more whimsical and friendlier to the artists," Taylor says. "But there are about five record companies now, and if you're an executive at one of those companies, you have to show a corporate overlord a bottom line. So the businessmen are sweating bullets, too." Michael Penn, a critically respected singer/songwriter who had one single, No Myth, a decade ago, concurs. "There's no longer a system where record company executives feel like they can establish tenure and dedicate their time to developing an artist," he says. "They're always looking over their shoulder, waiting for the ax to fall. So it's 'What's on the radio? What's selling now? Get me something like that, fast.' And I think that's devalued music." Adds Rickie Lee Jones, "Ninety percent of people in the record industry wouldn't know a good song if it called them on their cellphones. I don't think anyone has anything against singer/songwriters personally; there's just a general malaise, a decline in things artistic." The obvious question, then, is where the next generation of influential singer/songwriters will come from, and how or if they will be nurtured. This is an especially significant issue for Billy Joel, who is focusing on writing classical music but whose 14-year-old daughter, Alexa Ray Joel, is a budding singer/songwriter. "She writes extremely interesting chord progressions -- very different, very unorthodox," the elder Joel says proudly. "But when I try to encourage this individual voice, she says, 'Dad, I can't be a pop singer if I write that way.' That may be indicative of how a lot of young people feel now. All the radio formats seem very strict, and it's probably very intimidating for a young person with a unique, original approach." Another fledgling singer/songwriter whom Joel admires, Shawn Mullins, has additional worries about the current pop climate's influence on young people. Resurgence in storytelling Mullins, whose 1998 breakthrough hit, Lullaby, made him one of the few new singer/songwriters to crack the top 10 in the past couple of years, says: he shares Henley's ambivalence about the abundance of apathetic or, sometimes, violent lyrics and imagery in today's flashier and frothier pop. "I'm all for people expressing themselves however they want to. But some of the stuff I'm hearing, from people like Eminem  I think, man, we need to take a look at this. The singer/songwriters I've loved would talk about important stuff in a constructive way. I'm hoping there's a resurgence of real storytelling. I think there will be, because younger people are starting to think politically again." For longtime cult favorite Aimee Mann, the lack of substance and sensitivity in songwriting is a reflection of "the cynicism of the record industry. If all people hear is music written by people who don't care what they're writing about, that's what they'll buy." Another esteemed veteran, John Hiatt, is more optimistic. Hiatt sees the singer/songwriter tradition being adapted and revitalized in a contemporary vein by stars such as Macy Gray, whom he praises as "a great example of the boat being shaken up." Indeed, Sade, a forerunner of Gray's, recentlyentered the Billboard album chart at No. 3 - above Ricky Martin - with the album Lovers Rock, a collection of spare acoustic songs that she wrote andproduced herself. VH1 executive Bill Flanagan, creator of the singer/songwriter-driven series Storytellers, adds that many of today's more rock-oriented singer/songwriters, particularly men, are fronting bands. "There were a lot of openings for female singer/songwriters on the pop charts in recent years, but very few for men," Flanagan says. "I think the male singer/songwriter has very much gone into rock bands." Flanagan won't get an argument from Lilith founder Sarah McLachlan. "There were great male singer/songwriters like David Gray and Ron Sexsmith who couldn't get played on the radio a few years ago if it killed them," McLachlan says. "At one point, there were certain stations that played nothing but women. It was like, 'Women are hot, so we're not going to bother with men.' "I just wish there was more of a sense of balance. I don't think that when Lilith ended, Limp Bizkit suddenly took over, but the industry makes it seem that way. The bands making that kind of harder, slightly misogynistic music are now the ones getting the covers of Rolling Stone and the record sales and the MTV play. But I think people still listen to me and Tracy Chapman and Sheryl Crow. And I think there's the same frustration over radio that existed when we were getting tons of airplay and David Gray couldn't get any." Perhaps McLachlan can take heart in Gray's progress in recent months. Flanagan identifies him as one of several artists who have emerged from England as a "great, classic singer/songwriter." Pop fans are beginning to agree: Gray is one of a pair of young British minstrels - the other, Dido, is a woman - who have enjoyed steadily rising album sales in recent months. Notably, both artists use modern technology to update their approach. "I think songwriting has to move into the next century," says Gray, whose fans also include Hiatt and Henley. "It's going to look more and more ridiculous to emulate things that happened in the '60s and '70s. There have been some massive characters in the singer/songwriter field that have cast huge shadows, and that's been a bit daunting for those coming after them. But maybe there's enough of a gap now that it can be done differently." Former artist manager and major-label executive Danny Goldberg, now CEO of the independent Artemis Records, agrees. "There's always been a lot of competition in music, because the public only has an appetite for so many heroes," he says. "But I still think there's an environment in which people making personal, idiosyncratic statements can reach an audience." "There's a tremendous underground swell of songwriters and players who have no interest in who or what the latest pop sensation is," Paul Simon says. "The whole concept of stars is bogus, anyway. What's a star compared to a song that lasts 100 years? Nothing. Absolutely nothing." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From ldphill@earthlink.net Sat Dec 16 17:27:10 2000 Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA01101 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:27:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust154.tnt1.grapevine.tx.da.uu.net [63.23.235.154]) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA08703; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:27:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000001c067b8$eff61860$9aeb173f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: <6a.98c4823.276d3d9b@aol.com> Subject: Re: Late Late Show & Michael Penn slight Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:29:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I think it was more of a scheduling thing; the show's people may have just booked Aimee, as she was the only person mentioned in the show's promos. (I almost didn't think Michael was going to be on at all!) I thought their performance was fantastic, definitely the best part of the show, no contest. I really don't care for "craiggers"' smugness, and every time he said something like "I really like Aimee Mann" it came off sounding insincere. Particularly when it came between showing off bikini pics of whatsherface from Fashionably Loud and fawning over Dido's "singing and speaking thing" - NEXT WEEK. And did anyone else spot at least one of Aimee's 15 evil Santa dolls flanking the stage? :) Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Late Late Show & Michael Penn slight > Yes, It WAS Michael Lockwood on guitar. > > Very nice performance by Aimee and Michael. However, I thought it was VERY > rude that when Craig Kilborn thanked his guests at the end of the show, he > thanked Aimee Mann but made no mention of Michael Penn at all! > > Steve > > In a message dated 12/15/00 11:16:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, > jillpw@hotmail.com writes: > > << I think the guitar > player was Michael Lockwood not Buddy. >> > > >From Creole1239@aol.com Sat Dec 16 18:31:35 2000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA11762 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:31:34 -0600 (CST) From: Creole1239@aol.com Received: from Creole1239@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.cc.e3f6cc6 (9156) for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:30:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:30:57 EST Subject: Re: Acoustic Vaudeville - more centered on Aimee now? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 14 Reply-To: Creole1239@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Why is Patrick off the bill since Michael is on? Touring with others? Family? Quitting touring? And no Buddy?! I thought for sure he was on because his CD would be for sale. Chris > As far as I know the AV format will be very similar to last year. The only > real change is that Jebin will be on keyboards instead of Patrick. Also, > there is some question as to whether Buddy will be part of the show. I will > > know more next week. > > Jill >From jase@iaw.on.ca Sat Dec 16 18:45:57 2000 Received: from mail2.rdc2.on.home.com (mail2.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA12027 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:45:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from co31883-a.iaw.on.ca ([24.150.58.163]) by mail2.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001217004547.YRSQ16721.mail2.rdc2.on.home.com@co31883-a.iaw.on.ca> for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:45:47 -0800 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20001216194636.009eeb30@mail.iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@mail.iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:48:44 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: Re: Acoustic Vaudeville - more centered on Aimee now? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: jase@iaw.on.ca Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Chris wrote: >Why is Patrick off the bill since Michael is on? Touring with others? Family? >Quitting touring? And no Buddy?! I thought for sure he was on because his CD >would be for sale. Buddy could possibly be working on the new Liz Phair record still, seeing how it's tentatively scheduled for release mid-2001. Doesn't leave much time for them to get it finished... Cheers, Jase >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sat Dec 16 18:59:25 2000 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA12753 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:59:24 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id i.8.db34bc2 (3876); Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:58:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8.db34bc2.276d69c7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:58:47 EST Subject: Re: B#2 XMas Blues.... To: jillpw@hotmail.com, lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-16 15:28:35 EST, jillpw@hotmail.com writes: > Andy's experience is not unique but in many many stores Street Teamers have > encountered Aimee Mann fans. So Andy,...I wouldn't be too discouraged. You > > may have better luck with other stores. > > Yesterday, I visited an independent and a Coconuts when I went out for > lunch. In both places the managers know me by now and reported that the CD > is still selling. At the Independent (Nathan Muchnik's On Chestnut Street) > the poster display is still up and the Bachelor No. 2 CDs are in a prominent > > location on the wall. At Coconuts (also on Chestnut) they were out of the > CD but the manager said he had more on order and I left some stickers with > him. > I agree with Jill, Andy most record stores have been very good about Aimee, I've had no problems so far with doing stuff for the street team with them. ALthough to day when I was at Borders (Princeton NJ) the guy who I asked about stickering B#2 albums, thought they were for every album, which was funny. They still have their display too. Andrea >From aidanjm@nex.net.au Sat Dec 16 19:14:49 2000 Received: from nex.com.au ([203.36.132.124]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA13604 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:14:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from aidanjm [203.109.243.127] by nex.com.au (SMTPD32-6.04) id A29337C30142; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:10:43 +1100 Message-ID: <004101c067c7$3ecf4de0$7ff36dcb@aidanjm> From: "Aidan Martin" To: "Aimee Mann list" References: <20001216190144.75726.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: BABIES Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:18:19 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: aidanjm@nex.net.au Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Has Aimee ever voiced her opinions (in inteviews, etc.) on having babies? Will we see a tiny Aimee/ Michael in the future? Aidan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mann Fann" To: Sent: Sunday, 17 December 2000 6:01 Subject: Cutting Michael some slack :) > Hello to all on the list...I just wanted to post a > quick thought about some of the commentary I've read > about Michael Penn joining Aimee during the concerts. > Now I must say first that I know where all of you > Aimee-only people are coming from. You love Aimee, and > you want to see HER. Totally understandable. > > BUT...has anyone noticed the LARGE difference between > a solo Aimee show and an Acoustic vaudeville show? > Granted, she always does and always will kick ass > under any circumstances, but Aimee seems much more > subdued in her solo shows than AV shows. When she's by > herself, she just doesn't seem quite as into it...you > get the impression that she is there to do a job and > be done for the night. But add to the mix the man she > loves and some raunchy humor, and it's a totally > different Aimee. She peps up, they are laughing almost > constantly between songs, and she joins Michael either > singing or playing on most of his songs. She is, in > general, a much happier Aimee. > > So, all I'm saying is, let's give Michael a break! He > has some great tunes himself, and I must say he > completely won me over on the AV tour at the beginning > of the year. He is funny, charming, and he rocks...so > any of you still wanting to bail on the AV shows > because there isn't enough Aimee...isn't some Aimee > better than NO Aimee?!? > > Fann > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sat Dec 16 19:18:05 2000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA13700 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:18:04 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id f.bc.dc62dca (3876); Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:17:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:17:28 EST Subject: Re: Late Late Show & Michael Penn slight To: ldphill@earthlink.net, Brwnshoe@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-16 18:27:32 EST, ldphill@earthlink.net writes: > thought their performance was fantastic, definitely the best part of the > show, no contest. I really don't care for "craiggers"' smugness, and every > time he said something like "I really like Aimee Mann" it came off sounding > insincere. Particularly when it came between showing off bikini pics of > whatsherface from Fashionably Loud and fawning over Dido's "singing and > speaking thing" - NEXT WEEK. I was so annoyed by the show five minutes into it, that I switched to the Ranger's game (hockey) which ended just before Aimee's performance. I saw enough though, it was a stupid show, Aimee and Michael were the only good thing about it. Andrea >From sproude@earthlink.net Sat Dec 16 19:22:38 2000 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA13991 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:22:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from earthlink.net (sdn-ar-001sccharP246.dialsprint.net [158.252.92.136]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19240 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:22:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3C164B.C743522@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:26:35 -0500 From: SMP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Aimee Mann list Subject: Re: BABIES References: <20001216190144.75726.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> <004101c067c7$3ecf4de0$7ff36dcb@aidanjm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sproude@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN She said some pretty hilarious things about babies in an article someone posted a few months back ( i think it was an mtv interview transcript or something). Regarding babies: "i don't even think they are cute"...also she said that while she has no maternal instincts, michael would make a good father so maybe when she gets through some more therapy she might have one. She also said something about being willing to be the container for the egg or something to that effect...i just remember laughing . Aidan Martin wrote: > Has Aimee ever voiced her opinions (in inteviews, etc.) on having babies? > Will we see a tiny Aimee/ Michael in the future? > Aidan > > -- >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sat Dec 16 19:48:53 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA15311 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:48:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBH1n0i11135; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:49:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3C1B82.8000902@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:48:50 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sproude@earthlink.net CC: Aimee Mann list Subject: Re: BABIES References: <20001216190144.75726.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> <004101c067c7$3ecf4de0$7ff36dcb@aidanjm> <3A3C164B.C743522@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN SMP wrote: > She said some pretty hilarious things about babies in an article someone > posted a few months back ( i think it was an mtv interview transcript or > something). Regarding babies: "i don't even think they are cute"...also she > said that while she has no maternal instincts, michael would make a good > father so maybe when she gets through some more therapy she might have one. > > She also said something about being willing to be the container for the egg > or something to that effect...i just remember laughing . ROFL! After you mentioned those few little gems I HAD to search for the article, and I found it here: http://www.mtv.com/news/gallery/m/mann00/index2.html Aimee's baby talk is at the end of the transcript. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sat Dec 16 20:53:01 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f225.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.225]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA17859 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:53:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:52:30 -0800 Received: from 172.158.136.161 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:52:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.158.136.161] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: I'm all wet Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:52:29 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2000 02:52:30.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[65AAE480:01C067D4] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I just returned from a downpour in Husky Stadium, and I haven't dryed or thawed yet, but I could die a happy man! Raiders lose!! Forgive typos cuz I have barely any feeling in my fingers (or toes for that matter). I was deleting some old emails earlier and realized I did not address something. My comment about Aimee being in bed with Microsoft instead of Apple was a reference to Paul Allen. It was rumored that Metallica got one million dollars to perform at the Experience Music Project (Paul Allen's love gift to music--particularly Hendrix). She could make a LOT of music videos with a million bucks for an hour on stage. Yes, it's evil Microsoft, but better Aimee than Metallica. It was acvtually funny that Aimee and Metallica were at the fore front of the whole Napster thing. I need to ask if anyone else has had trouble at MP3.com. About HALF of better of the discs I have tried to *beam* aren't in their database (or whatever). I was able to beam IWS and EDN but not Ultimate COllection (uhm, Maria McKee's UC, yeah, that's it, Maria McKee...From Pianist2b@aol.com Sat Dec 16 21:34:24 2000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA19044 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:34:24 -0600 (CST) From: Pianist2b@aol.com Received: from Pianist2b@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.bf.9d52533 (4333) for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:33:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:33:42 EST Subject: The Christmas Song To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 125 Reply-To: Pianist2b@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Anyone know where I can get the lyrics for "Christmastime?" Also, is the song brand new , or was it recorded years ago? thanks >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sat Dec 16 21:54:41 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA20122 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:54:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBH3sli17234; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:54:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3C38FB.4040205@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:54:35 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pianist2b@aol.com, Aimee Mann list Subject: Re: The Christmas Song References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Pianist2b@aol.com wrote: > Anyone know where I can get the lyrics for "Christmastime?" Also, is the > song brand new , or was it recorded years ago? > > thanks Christmastime first appeared "Just Say Noel" released back in 1996: http://aimeemanndirect.com/product_information.asp?PRODUCT=GEF25107&TYPE=Music%2FVideos&index=6&total=13 As for lyrics, I can't seem to find them. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From ldphill@earthlink.net Sat Dec 16 22:19:30 2000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA21427 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:19:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust124.tnt4.grapevine.tx.da.uu.net [63.25.2.124]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA03213; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:19:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002e01c067e1$c2cb9bc0$7c02193f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: Subject: Christmastime lyrics Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:28:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The song was used in the closing credits to PTA's first movie, "Hard Eight" (and can also be heard in the score) if that helps any - I think that was 1995. The lyrics aren't hard to make out, so I'll give it a whirl... It's Christmas again, December is here Hasn't it been a wonderful year? With all the plans you're making And all the time you're taking Greet the next one with good cheer Won't you, dear? As you ring the chime Just because it's Christmastime... And on the tree all the ornaments glow Tinsel will cover where the branches don't grow Lights on all the houses Spouses with their spouses Children playing in the snow... One in the sleigh, and one upon the horse Keeping on track's another matter, of course That's the great divisor You are now the wiser Maybe just a bit less so Touch-and-go 'Till you stop on a dime All alone in Christmastime Christmas again, December is here What did you wish for? What did you fear? Look at your behavior Looking for a savior Underneath the mistletoe You should know It is less a crime To be all alone in Christmastime Christmastime... Lauren "At this point, I'm running on coffee and sarcasm...and the coffee's wearing off." - Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: The Christmas Song > Anyone know where I can get the lyrics for "Christmastime?" Also, is the > song brand new , or was it recorded years ago? > > thanks > > >From missy@honeybeepub.com Sat Dec 16 22:30:06 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA21673 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:30:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA18498; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:30:03 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:31:34 -0800 Subject: Re: Late Late Show & Michael Penn slight From: Missy Roback To: , , Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001c067b8$eff61860$9aeb173f@elliott> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN craig kilborne is a complete moron. the two times i've seen aimee on his show i had to sit through an hour of idiocy. he makes conan seem like a rhodes scholar. and i missed the evil santa. damn! i have my own collection of creepy santas and elves. > I thought their performance was fantastic, definitely the best part of the > show, no contest. I really don't care for "craiggers"' smugness, and every > time he said something like "I really like Aimee Mann" it came off sounding > insincere. Particularly when it came between showing off bikini pics of > whatsherface from Fashionably Loud and fawning over Dido's "singing and > speaking thing" - NEXT WEEK. > > And did anyone else spot at least one of Aimee's 15 evil Santa dolls > flanking the stage? :) >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sun Dec 17 00:06:37 2000 Received: from web1404.mail.yahoo.com (web1404.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.168]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id AAA26447 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:06:32 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 2885 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Dec 2000 06:06:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20001217060631.2884.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.245] by web1404.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:06:31 PST Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:06:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: RE: Christmastime To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1973594324-977033191=:2598" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1973594324-977033191=:2598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Did Aimee/Michael write Christmastime? and while i'm on the subject, is Reason to Believe (from Badlands) a Bruce Springsteen song or was it written by Aimee/Michael?? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-1973594324-977033191=:2598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Did Aimee/Michael write Christmastime? and while i'm on the subject, is Reason to Believe (from Badlands) a Bruce Springsteen song or was it written by Aimee/Michael??


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Millions of Products. --0-1973594324-977033191=:2598-- >From gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sun Dec 17 00:15:45 2000 Received: from pop9.ucdavis.edu (pop9.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA27538 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:15:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from ucdavis.edu (d199-69.larue1.ucdavis.edu [169.237.199.69]) by pop9.ucdavis.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0/IT4.4.6) with ESMTP id eBH6Fpi23876; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:15:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A3C5A03.4050409@ucdavis.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:15:31 -0800 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001212 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Christmastime References: <20001217060631.2884.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Lisa Letostak wrote: > Did Aimee/Michael write Christmastime? and while i'm on the subject, is > Reason to Believe (from Badlands) a Bruce Springsteen song or was it > written by Aimee/Michael?? I know that Christmastime was written by Michael. Not sure about Reason to Believe. -- Alex <:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sun Dec 17 00:40:28 2000 Received: from mercury.cc.utexas.edu (mercury.cc.utexas.edu [128.83.217.23]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA28651 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:40:27 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from imo-r11.mail.aol.com (imo-r11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mercury.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/cc-mailroom.mc-1.32) with ESMTP id AAA20248 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:42:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id h.f8.5b6e560 (8477); Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:37:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:37:54 EST Subject: Re: Christmastime To: gerbil@ucdavis.edu, sabrina1939@yahoo.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-17 01:16:13 EST, gerbil@ucdavis.edu writes: > I know that Christmastime was written by Michael. Not sure > about Reason to Believe. > Reason To Believe was written by Springsteen. His version, as is all of Nebraska, it quite diffrent from what everyone did on Badlands. I recomend the Springsteen version, you get a great idea of what everyone bought to Badlands, including Aimee and Michael. Andrea >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sun Dec 17 01:17:09 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f85.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.85]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA00068 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:17:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:16:38 -0800 Received: from 63.25.157.155 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 07:16:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.25.157.155] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: An Honorable Mention Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:16:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2000 07:16:38.0306 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BD3C020:01C067F9] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In tomorrow's Philadelphia Inquirer, Dan DeLuca, music critic for the paper, picks his top ten albums for 2000 plus 10 honorable mentions. Bachelor No 2 is second on his honorable mentions list. Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From geoffl@pacbell.net Sun Dec 17 02:53:10 2000 Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA01484 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:53:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from pacbell.net ([206.170.4.98]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G5P007YZF7D5V@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:50:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:53:16 -0800 From: Geoff Subject: Re: Christmastime To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Cc: Mannlist , Lisa Letostak Message-id: <3A3C7EFC.DA3B83F@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD compaq (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: Reply-To: geoffl@pacbell.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Umm...ur...to be honest I *haven't* heard the Springsteen recording, nor the one on the tribute album. But the song I know by that title - that starts something like "If I listened long enough to you, I'd find a way to believe that it's all true" - was written ages ago by Tim Hardin. (while we're on the subject of underrated, forgotten singer-songwriters...) Geoff >From diri.gini@virgin.net Sun Dec 17 07:33:54 2000 Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA18234 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 07:33:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.68.175]) by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001217133605.MIMO255.mta1-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:36:05 +0000 Message-ID: <005201c0682e$292eef60$af44fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: "Mannlist" References: Subject: Re: Article: The disappearing popular songwriter Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:54:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Thanks Kristina, for posting this article. > "There were great male singer/songwriters like David Gray and Ron > Sexsmith who couldn't get played on the radio a few years ago if it killed > them," McLachlan says. "At one point, there were certain stations that > played nothing but women. It was like, 'Women are hot, so we're not going to > bother with men.' A prima facie case of why I hate fashion in all its guises. I'm listening to David Gray's album Sell, Sell, Sell for the first time and what makes me angry is that I could've been listening to this music five years ago if the morons in the music industry had done their job properly. If you've not tried DG, White Ladder is well worth trying. (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From diri.gini@virgin.net Sun Dec 17 07:33:56 2000 Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id HAA18239 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 07:33:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.68.175]) by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001217133608.MIMS255.mta1-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:36:08 +0000 Message-ID: <005301c0682e$2aa7d3c0$af44fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: <55.ed3a6d2.276d33e1@aol.com> Subject: Re: OT: President-Elect Bush Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:33:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > ...it is a scary situation when we have a candidate who did win the > popular vote but who does not win the election. That means a > majority of the people in America voted for him and he should > have been the victor. I'm very heartened to read this, because it hits the nail on the head. Every single democratic system I know of has an inbuilt bias to the right, because low income people tend not to use their vote. Yes, that is their fault; but that doesn't mean it stops being a problem for democrats (please note the small 'd'). By definition, the government in a democracy is suposed to represent the interests of its people, not just the rich; so if a system causes any portion of the population to be underrepresented, then it needs reform. Not only that, but the incidents reported in the rest of Malletdove's post show that the American electoral system is actually corrupt. You have a problem and because you're the biggest player in the world, so do the rest of us. (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From speener-d@home.com Sun Dec 17 11:07:40 2000 Received: from mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (ha2.rdc2.pa.home.com [24.12.106.195]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA26618 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:07:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.40.42.88] by mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001217170733.EHAW9109.mail.rdc2.pa.home.com@[24.40.42.88]>; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 09:07:33 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:07:32 -0500 Subject: Vote for Michael From: Spencer Lewis To: Pennlist , Mannlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 2 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3059899652_102732_MIME_Part" Reply-To: speener-d@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3059899652_102732_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit It's a stunning misjustice that Michael Penn isn't even listed as a choice for the Top 50 cd's of 2000, but yet WXPN has done it. You have the opportunity to vote for your top 5 cd's at the end of the year WXPN will play the every Top 50 cd in it's entirety starting with 50, ending at 1. It would be cool if we all voted for Michael Penn - MP4 (Days Since a Lost Time Accident). So go to the following link to vote: http://xpn.org/category.mv?c=1078 By the way, mine were: Michael Penn - MP4(Days since A Lost Time Accident) Elliot Smith - Figure 8 Aimee Mann - Bachelor No. 2 Juliana Hatfield - Beautiful Creature Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour of the Bewilderbeast -- They were digging a new foundation in manhattan and they discovered a slave cemetery there may their souls rest easy now that lynching is frowned upon and we've moved onto the electric chair. - ani difranco --MS_Mac_OE_3059899652_102732_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Vote for Michael It's a stunning misjustice that Michael Penn isn't even listed as a choice = for the Top 50 cd's of 2000, but yet WXPN has done it.   You have = the opportunity to vote for your top 5 cd's at the end of the year WXPN will= play the every Top 50 cd in it's entirety starting with 50, ending at 1. &n= bsp;It would be cool if we all voted for Michael Penn - MP4 (Days Since a Lo= st Time Accident).

So go to the following link to vote:

http://xpn.org/category.mv?c=3D1078

By the way, mine were:
Michael Penn - MP4(Days since A Lost Time Accident)
Elliot Smith - Figure 8
Aimee Mann - Bachelor No. 2
Juliana Hatfield - Beautiful Creature
Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour of the Bewilderbeast
--
They were digging a new foundation in manhattan
and they discovered a slave cemetery there
may their souls rest easy now that lynching is frowned upon
and we've moved onto the electric chair. - ani difranco
--MS_Mac_OE_3059899652_102732_MIME_Part-- >From Pooley29@aol.com Sun Dec 17 13:58:35 2000 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA25657 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:58:34 -0600 (CST) From: Pooley29@aol.com Received: from Pooley29@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.27.eddb056 (17534) for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 14:57:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <27.eddb056.276e74c3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 14:57:55 EST Subject: Re: Article: The disappearing popular songwriter To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_27.eddb056.276e74c3_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: Pooley29@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_27.eddb056.276e74c3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/16/00 5:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com writes: > Adds Rickie Lee Jones, "Ninety percent of people in the record > This was the best quote I've heard this year!!! John Poole --part1_27.eddb056.276e74c3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/16/00 5:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com writes:


Adds Rickie Lee Jones, "Ninety percent of people in the record
industry wouldn't know a good song if it called them on their cellphones."


This was the best quote I've heard this year!!!

John Poole --part1_27.eddb056.276e74c3_boundary-- >From diri.gini@virgin.net Sun Dec 17 16:45:21 2000 Received: from mta6-svc.virgin.net (mta6-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.46]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA03712 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:45:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.253.40.26]) by mta6-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001217224519.IFSC22453.mta6-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 22:45:19 +0000 Message-ID: <002a01c0687b$31b9cc20$1a28fd3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: "Mannlist" Subject: Aimee in London. Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:45:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Howdy, Just to say that I took a trip into London the other day and HMV had Coming Up Close, the Til Tuesday retrospective at £6.99. They had stock of the Save Me single and if you want to ignore Aimee's wishes, the Ultimate Collection; though you'll have to stump up about £20 for that. (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From elion@bigfoot.com Sun Dec 17 17:07:52 2000 Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.76]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA04577 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 17:07:52 -0600 (CST) Received: (apparently) from oemcomputer ([24.164.159.245]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:07:28 -0500 From: "Elion Caplan" To: Subject: RE: Aimee in London. Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:05:57 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002a01c0687b$31b9cc20$1a28fd3e@oemcomputer> Reply-To: elion@bigfoot.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN If anyone in the US buys UK import CD's, I'd recommend getting them online from HMV.co.uk. Since it's a British site, they don't jack up the prices like the record stores and e-merchants over here do. And if you're ordering from outside the UK they subtract the sales tax that is normally included in the prices. I've saved a lot of money that way. Elion >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sun Dec 17 18:50:36 2000 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA16469 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:50:35 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id f.c1.9dca676 (4230); Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:49:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:49:56 EST Subject: Re: Christmastime To: geoffl@pacbell.net CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, sabrina1939@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c1.9dca676.276eb934_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_c1.9dca676.276eb934_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/17/00 3:53:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, geoffl@pacbell.net writes: > Umm...ur...to be honest I *haven't* heard the Springsteen > recording, nor the one on the tribute album. But the song I know > by that title - that starts something like "If I listened long > enough to you, I'd find a way to believe that it's all true" - > was written ages ago by Tim Hardin. > > (while we're on the subject of underrated, forgotten > singer-songwriters...) > > It's a different song then Tim Hadin's Reason To Believe. And Springsteen's song is a lot darker then Hardin's song. I like Tim's song too, he's another one who deserves an album like Badlands, I don't know if it will happen, even in the folk scene, they seem to be occupied, a lot of folk singers, with giving Phil Ochs his due. Which is cool, but I'd like to see others given their due too. Anyway again, I recommend both Springsteen's Nebraska, and Badlands. Almost any Tim Hardin album will do too. Andrea --part1_c1.9dca676.276eb934_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/17/00 3:53:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,
geoffl@pacbell.net writes:


Umm...ur...to be honest I *haven't* heard the Springsteen
recording, nor the one on the tribute album.  But the song I know
by that title - that starts something like "If I listened long
enough to you, I'd find a way to believe that it's all true" -
was written ages ago by Tim Hardin.

(while we're on the subject of underrated, forgotten
singer-songwriters...)



It's a different song then Tim Hadin's Reason To Believe.  And Springsteen's
song is a lot darker then Hardin's song. I like Tim's song too, he's another
one who deserves an album like Badlands, I don't know if it will happen, even
in the folk scene, they seem to be occupied, a lot of folk singers, with
giving Phil Ochs his due.  Which is cool, but I'd like to see others given
their due too.  Anyway again, I recommend both Springsteen's Nebraska, and
Badlands. Almost any Tim Hardin album will do too.
Andrea --part1_c1.9dca676.276eb934_boundary-- >From jnmiles@eagle1st.com Sun Dec 17 23:24:37 2000 Received: from PDC.EAGLE1ST.COM ([216.204.29.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA29144 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 23:24:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from nickmiles (unverified [216.204.2.65]) by PDC.EAGLE1ST.COM (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.179) with SMTP id ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 00:16:04 -0500 Message-ID: <002b01c068b2$281c8900$4102ccd8@nickmiles> Reply-To: "Nick Miles" From: "Nick Miles" To: , , References: <20001217060631.2884.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> <3A3C5A03.4050409@ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: Christmastime Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 00:19:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN According to John Relph's Jon Brion Discography, "Christmastime" is a Mann/Brion composition. Check it out at: http://reality.sgi.com/relph/music/brion.jon/indexv.html -Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex" To: ; Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 1:15 AM Subject: Re: Christmastime > Lisa Letostak wrote: > > > Did Aimee/Michael write Christmastime? and while i'm on the subject, is > > Reason to Believe (from Badlands) a Bruce Springsteen song or was it > > written by Aimee/Michael?? > > I know that Christmastime was written by Michael. Not sure > about Reason to Believe. > > -- > Alex <:3)~~ > http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/ > >From jase@iaw.on.ca Mon Dec 18 01:49:11 2000 Received: from mail1.rdc2.on.home.com (mail1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA14277 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 01:49:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from co31883-a.iaw.on.ca ([24.150.58.163]) by mail1.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001218074904.PCU27516.mail1.rdc2.on.home.com@co31883-a.iaw.on.ca> for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 23:49:04 -0800 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20001218025038.009f0140@mail.iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@mail.iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 02:52:05 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: Re: Christmastime In-Reply-To: <002b01c068b2$281c8900$4102ccd8@nickmiles> References: <20001217060631.2884.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> <3A3C5A03.4050409@ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: jase@iaw.on.ca Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN At 12:19 AM 12/18/00 -0500, you wrote: >According to John Relph's Jon Brion Discography, "Christmastime" is a >Mann/Brion composition. Check it out at: > >http://reality.sgi.com/relph/music/brion.jon/indexv.html > >-Nick That's strange, I believe in the credits for that Geffen CD (gapping on the title right now) it states that it's a Penn/Brion composition. Which makes more sense, since the song originally appeared in Paul Thomas Anderson's 'Hard Eight,' which Penn scored. Cheers, Jase >From MGiammatteo@getty.edu Mon Dec 18 10:18:46 2000 Received: from mail.getty.edu (mail.getty.edu [153.10.96.96]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id KAA17124 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:18:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from Getty-Message_Server by mail.getty.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 08:17:44 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 08:17:42 -0800 From: "Michael Giammatteo" To: Subject: re: cutting Michael some slack Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id KAA17129 Reply-To: MGiammatteo@getty.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm with Fann. I've seen both the AV show & Aimee solo. During the AV show I saw it looked like Aimee (and all else involved) was having a blast. It was an awful lot of fun. I've seen Aimee solo. It was a good show. Had I not seen the AV show already I may have liked it better. I'm not for giving Michael Penn a break because he's "Aimee's husband". I'd see Michael on his own. It's a big plus for me to see the two of them together. I'm assuming that those of you who are not big Penn fans have heard his latest CD and didn't care for it. If not, I can reccomend that you give it a listen. It's very Beatlesque pop. Sounds like he spent a few months listening to nothing but I Am The Walrus. I got the Christmas CD single in the mail this weekend. I like it very much. It's cool hearing Aimee & Michael duet. Oh, and about the election....... >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 18 10:36:44 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA18363 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:36:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from [206.8.2.114] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 18-Dec-2000 10:35:10 -0600 Date: 18 Dec 2000 10:39:40 -0600 Message-ID: <912497130jsteinmann@clynch.com> From: Jack Steinmann Subject: re: cutting Michael some slack To: CC: The Mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.1 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id KAA18364 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The key difference (for me) between Ms. Mann AV and Ms. Mann (non-Largo) solo is that the former has offered up "acoustic" interpretations of previously electric songs, whereas the latter has been and continues to be plugged-in and more faithful to the recorded canon. Unfortunately the "acoustic" in "Acoustic Vaudeville" came to mean "electric keyboard solos replace electric guitar solos." Loved the comic. Enjoyed Michael Penn immensely. Missed the electric guitars. Jack Michael Giammatteo wrote: >I'm with Fann. I've seen both the AV show & Aimee solo. During >the AV show I saw it looked like Aimee (and all else involved) >was having a blast. It was an awful lot of fun. > >I've seen Aimee solo. It was a good show. Had I not seen the >AV show already I may have liked it better. > >I'm not for giving Michael Penn a break because he's "Aimee's >husband". I'd see Michael on his own. It's a big plus for me >to see the two of them together. >From jillpw@hotmail.com Mon Dec 18 10:47:01 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (lc5-lfd92.law5.hotmail.com [216.33.238.114]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA19150 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:47:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 08:46:29 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by www.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:46:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: jsteinmann@clynch.com, MGiammatteo@getty.edu Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: re: cutting Michael some slack Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:46:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2000 16:46:29.0865 (UTC) FILETIME=[11FF5D90:01C06912] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I totally agree with Jack. I said to Karen the other day that I would like to see an "Electric Vaudeville". I love Michael Penn and the comic but keep the electric guitar and let John Sands have his full drum kit. Jill Jack Steinmann wrote: >Unfortunately the "acoustic" in "Acoustic Vaudeville" came to mean >"electric keyboard solos replace electric guitar solos." Loved the comic. >Enjoyed Michael Penn immensely. Missed the electric guitars. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From loehr@javanet.com Mon Dec 18 11:12:55 2000 Received: from alice.smith.edu (alice.smith.edu [131.229.64.13]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA21964 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:12:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from sophia.smith.edu (0@sophia.smith.edu [131.229.64.1]) by smith.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6/SC1.6) with ESMTP id MAA25554 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ericl ([131.229.62.10] (may be forged)) by sophia.smith.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6/SC1.4) with SMTP id MAA28811 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:12:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20001218121236.0098f920@mail.javanet.com> X-Sender: loehr@mail.javanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:12:36 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Eric Loehr Subject: question about the Christmas CD single In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: loehr@javanet.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm a little confused -- is the new Christmas single at the web site the same song as the one that's been out for a couple of years (Christmastime from Just Say Noel) or is it a different song...are there two Christmas songs? Eric >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 18 11:27:35 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA23487 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:27:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from [206.8.2.114] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 18-Dec-2000 11:26:15 -0600 Date: 18 Dec 2000 11:30:45 -0600 Message-ID: <912500195jsteinmann@clynch.com> From: Jack Steinmann Subject: re: question about the Christmas CD single To: CC: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.1 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id LAA23488 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN There are two songs. Eric Loehr wrote: >I'm a little confused -- is the new Christmas single at the web site the >same song as the one that's been out for a couple of years (Christmastime >from Just Say Noel) or is it a different song...are there two >Christmas songs? > >Eric > > >From loehr@javanet.com Mon Dec 18 12:06:17 2000 Received: from alice.smith.edu (alice.smith.edu [131.229.64.13]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA27406 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:06:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from sophia.smith.edu (0@sophia.smith.edu [131.229.64.1]) by smith.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6/SC1.6) with ESMTP id NAA26448 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ericl ([131.229.62.10] (may be forged)) by sophia.smith.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6/SC1.4) with SMTP id NAA29235 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:06:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20001218130558.0098a100@mail.javanet.com> X-Sender: loehr@mail.javanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:05:58 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Eric Loehr Subject: re: question about the Christmas CD single Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: loehr@javanet.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN So far I've gotten two replies: "It's the same song." "There are two songs." Do we have a tie-breaker? ;-}} Eric ----Original Message Follows---- From: Eric Loehr Reply-To: loehr@javanet.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: question about the Christmas CD single Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:12:36 -0500 I'm a little confused -- is the new Christmas single at the web site the same song as the one that's been out for a couple of years (Christmastime from Just Say Noel) or is it a different song...are there two Christmas songs? Eric >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 18 12:19:17 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA28364 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:19:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from [206.8.2.114] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 18-Dec-2000 12:17:57 -0600 Date: 18 Dec 2000 12:22:27 -0600 Message-ID: <912503296jsteinmann@clynch.com> From: Jack Steinmann Subject: Re: question about the Christmas CD single To: CC: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.1 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id MAA28365 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Two songs. Eric Loehr wrote: >So far I've gotten two replies: > >"It's the same song." > >"There are two songs." > > >Do we have a tie-breaker? ;-}} > >Eric > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Eric Loehr >Reply-To: loehr@javanet.com >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: question about the Christmas CD single >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:12:36 -0500 > >I'm a little confused -- is the new Christmas single at the web site the >same song as the one that's been out for a couple of years (Christmastime >from Just Say Noel) or is it a different song...are there two >Christmas >songs? > >Eric > > > > > >From jillpw@hotmail.com Mon Dec 18 12:39:44 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (lc6-lfd35.law5.hotmail.com [64.4.10.57]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA29405 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:39:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:39:14 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by www.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:39:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: loehr@javanet.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: question about the Christmas CD single Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:39:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2000 18:39:14.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[D2410E50:01C06921] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN There are two song's on the single..Christmastime from Just Say Noel and The Christmas Song which was from a Q Division disc (Viva Noel?) >From: Eric Loehr >Reply-To: loehr@javanet.com >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: question about the Christmas CD single >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:12:36 -0500 > >I'm a little confused -- is the new Christmas single at the web site the >same song as the one that's been out for a couple of years (Christmastime >from Just Say Noel) or is it a different song...are there two Christmas >songs? > >Eric > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From jillpw@hotmail.com Mon Dec 18 13:04:49 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (lc6-lfd3.law5.hotmail.com [64.4.10.25]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA01628 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:04:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:04:17 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by www.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:04:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: loehr@javanet.com Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: re: question about the Christmas CD single Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:04:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2000 19:04:17.0119 (UTC) FILETIME=[51AA36F0:01C06925] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The CD itself has TWO songs on it!!! One is the same as the one you are talking about PLUS it has the Christmas Song!!!! Eric Loehr wrote>So far I've gotten two replies: > >"It's the same song." > >"There are two songs." > > >Do we have a tie-breaker? ;-}} > >Eric _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From loehr@javanet.com Mon Dec 18 13:24:27 2000 Received: from mrzip.cc.utexas.edu (mrzip.cc.utexas.edu [128.83.217.16]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA02864 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:24:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from alice.smith.edu (alice.smith.edu [131.229.64.13]) by mrzip.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.3/cc-mailroom.mc-1.32) with ESMTP id NAA26679 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:24:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from sophia.smith.edu (0@sophia.smith.edu [131.229.64.1]) by smith.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6/SC1.6) with ESMTP id OAA28255 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ericl ([131.229.62.10] (may be forged)) by sophia.smith.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6/SC1.4) with SMTP id OAA29786 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:20:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20001218142006.0099d5d0@mail.javanet.com> X-Sender: loehr@mail.javanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:20:06 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Eric Loehr Subject: re: question about the Christmas CD single In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: loehr@javanet.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN That explains it -- thanks! Eric At 02:04 PM 12/18/00 -0500, you wrote: >The CD itself has TWO songs on it!!! One is the same as the one you are >talking about PLUS it has the Christmas Song!!!! > > >Eric Loehr wrote>So far I've gotten two replies: >> >>"It's the same song." >> >>"There are two songs." >> >> >>Do we have a tie-breaker? ;-}} >> >>Eric > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 18 13:39:45 2000 Received: from imo-r15.mail.aol.com (imo-r15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA04848 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:39:44 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id i.70.6120e77 (4068); Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:38:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <70.6120e77.276fc1cd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:38:53 EST Subject: Re: cutting Michael some slack To: jillpw@hotmail.com, jsteinmann@clynch.com, MGiammatteo@getty.edu CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_70.6120e77.276fc1cd_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_70.6120e77.276fc1cd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/00 11:47:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, jillpw@hotmail.com writes: > I totally agree with Jack. I said to Karen the other day that I would like > to see an "Electric Vaudeville". I love Michael Penn and the comic but > keep > the electric guitar and let John Sands have his full drum kit. > > That would be wonderful, can you imagine if they did and then did Superball, guitar frenzy and heaven. Andrea --part1_70.6120e77.276fc1cd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/00 11:47:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jillpw@hotmail.com writes:


I totally agree with Jack.  I said to Karen the other day that I would like
to see an "Electric Vaudeville".  I love Michael Penn and the comic but
keep
the electric guitar and let John Sands have his full drum kit.



That would be wonderful, can you imagine if they did and then did Superball,
guitar frenzy and heaven.
Andrea --part1_70.6120e77.276fc1cd_boundary-- >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 18 13:43:58 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA05760 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:43:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from [206.8.2.114] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 18-Dec-2000 13:42:36 -0600 Date: 18 Dec 2000 13:47:06 -0600 Message-ID: <912508375jsteinmann@clynch.com> From: Jack Steinmann Subject: re: cutting Michael some slack To: , The Mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.1 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id NAA05764 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN IWS is a chunky, electric album. With "fuzztortion," if I remember. No Burt Bacharach stylings. The songs were arranged the way they were for a reason! Jack AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: >That would be wonderful, can you imagine if they did and then did Superball, >guitar frenzy and heaven. >Andrea >In a message dated 12/18/00 11:47:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, >jillpw@hotmail.com writes: >I totally agree with Jack.  I said to Karen the other day that I would like >to see an "Electric Vaudeville".  I love Michael Penn and the comic but >keep the electric guitar and let John Sands have his full drum kit. >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Mon Dec 18 14:26:41 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f200.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.200]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA10142 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:26:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:26:09 -0800 Received: from 172.138.45.120 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:26:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.138.45.120] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Christmastime Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:26:09 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2000 20:26:09.0560 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1B53980:01C06930] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I don't know what Brion's involvement was with CHristmasTime, but I know for a fact (he told me personally) that Penn wrote Christmas time, so it has to be at least a Mann/Brion/PENN piece. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From bxu@sdcc17.ucsd.edu Mon Dec 18 15:01:52 2000 Received: from mailbox1.ucsd.edu (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA13176 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:01:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp.ucsd.edu (smtp.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.49]) by mailbox1.ucsd.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBIL1oj27986 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from bxu.sdcc17.ucsd.edu (bxu.resnet.ucsd.edu [128.54.183.38]) by smtp.ucsd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29981 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:01:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001218130357.00a20580@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> X-Sender: bxu@sdcc17.ucsd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:05:47 -0800 To: mannlist From: Brenda Xu Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: bxu@sdcc17.ucsd.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN hey fellow mannlisters i'm writing a review for the anaheim show at sun theater, and i need the setlist for grant lee philips. does anyone have it for this show or for any other recent shows he's done with aimee? thanx, Brenda >From ldphill@earthlink.net Mon Dec 18 16:24:24 2000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA20468 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:24:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust95.tnt8.grapevine.tx.da.uu.net [63.26.170.95]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA20561; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:24:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002d01c06942$861ed720$5faa1a3f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: Subject: Re: Christmastime Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:33:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >From the "Just Say Noel" liner notes (repeated on the Christmas single - right down to the "Liafail" typo): Lyrics: Michael Penn/Music: Michael Penn/Jon Brion Liafoil Music/BMG Songs, Inc./If Not For You Music/ASCAP Produced by Michael Penn and Jon Brion This would seem to make sense; according to the IMDb (and I recall noticing this in the credits after seeing "Hard Eight" again not too long ago), both Penn and Brion contributed to the score. And bits and pieces of the same melody pop up here and there in the score several times during the flick. Lauren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barras" To: Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Christmastime > I don't know what Brion's involvement was with CHristmasTime, but I know for > a fact (he told me personally) that Penn wrote Christmas time, so it has to > be at least a Mann/Brion/PENN piece. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >From howard@thewebpen.net Mon Dec 18 17:10:40 2000 Received: from dnvrpop3.dnvr.uswest.net (dnvrpop3.dnvr.uswest.net [206.196.128.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id RAA23146 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:10:36 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 14286 invoked by uid 0); 18 Dec 2000 23:10:31 -0000 Received: from eedialup153.dnvr.uswest.net (HELO ?216.160.175.153?) (216.160.175.153) by dnvrpop3.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 18 Dec 2000 23:10:31 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:10:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Howard Semones" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Subject: The Christmas Song In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20001218142006.0099d5d0@mail.javanet.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3060000628_73348_MIME_Part" Reply-To: howard@thewebpen.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3060000628_73348_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I just got The Christmas Song CD with my... yes, I admit it, I bought an Aimee Mann Mug! Anyway, her version of the Mel Torme classic is excellent! It really is one of the best renditions of the song I've ever heard. I just love the arrangement and, of course, Aimee's voice (but that goes without saying). Quite a little throw back to the 40's and it's wonderful. -- /////////////////////////////////////////////// I'm not crazy! I just don't give a darn! -Daffy Duck http://www.thewebpen.net http://www.improvinc.org \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ --MS_Mac_OE_3060000628_73348_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The Christmas Song I just got The Christmas Song CD with my... yes, I admit it,  I bought= an Aimee Mann Mug!

Anyway, her version of the Mel Torme classic is excellent!  It really = is one of the best renditions of the song I've ever heard.  I just love= the arrangement and, of course, Aimee's voice (but that goes without saying= ).  Quite a little throw back to the 40's and it's wonderful.

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--MS_Mac_OE_3060000628_73348_MIME_Part-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 18 18:49:18 2000 Received: from imo-r17.mail.aol.com (imo-r17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA09398 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:49:18 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id p.8d.64e0f (4529); Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:48:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8d.64e0f.27700a5d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:48:29 EST Subject: Re: The Christmas Song To: howard@thewebpen.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8d.64e0f.27700a5d_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_8d.64e0f.27700a5d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/00 6:11:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, howard@thewebpen.net writes: > Anyway, her version of the Mel Torme classic is excellent! It really is one > of the best renditions of the song I've ever heard. I just love the > arrangement and, of course, Aimee's voice (but that goes without saying). > Quite a little throw back to the 40's and it's wonderful. > > Agreed! I've never cared that much for this song, but this really is wonderful. Andrea --part1_8d.64e0f.27700a5d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/00 6:11:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
howard@thewebpen.net writes:


Anyway, her version of the Mel Torme classic is excellent!  It really is one
of the best renditions of the song I've ever heard.  I just love the
arrangement and, of course, Aimee's voice (but that goes without saying).  
Quite a little throw back to the 40's and it's wonderful.



Agreed!  I've never cared that much for this song, but this really is
wonderful.
Andrea --part1_8d.64e0f.27700a5d_boundary-- >From edmund@e-p-w.net Mon Dec 18 19:11:12 2000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA10840 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:11:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.8.84.16] (helo=m006nb00) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.11 #5) id 148BJ7-0007Ap-00; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 01:11:09 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c06958$3c671140$105408c3@m006nb00> Reply-To: "Edmund PW" From: "Edmund PW" To: Cc: "Aimee Mann Mailing List (New)" References: <002a01c0687b$31b9cc20$1a28fd3e@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: Aimee in London. Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 01:08:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN You had me all excited there for a minute. Oh well. Edmund from London. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian F. Braidwood. To: Mannlist Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: Aimee in London. Howdy, Just to say that I took a trip into London the other day and HMV had Coming Up Close, the Til Tuesday retrospective at £6.99. They had stock of the Save Me single and if you want to ignore Aimee's wishes, the Ultimate Collection; though you'll have to stump up about £20 for that. (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From bigsean62@hotmail.com Mon Dec 18 19:16:36 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f86.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.86]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA11088 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:16:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:16:05 -0800 Received: from 164.67.232.34 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 01:16:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.67.232.34] From: "viva steffi" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee's House of Blues show Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:16:04 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2000 01:16:05.0081 (UTC) FILETIME=[423F1490:01C06959] Reply-To: bigsean62@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Okay, okay, I can just hear what many of you are saying right now... aren't I a little late with this write-up on Aimee's December 7th show at the House of Blues? And, to answer, yes I am late. But that is just the way it has been for me lately. All of my time has been taken up with Christmas tasks, and leaving me little time to write. Then, when I did have some time to spend on the computer last weekend, and was hoping to post my impression of the H.O.B. concert, I couldn't get into my hotmail account for three days! Well, better late than never, I suppose. And given that this IS an Aimee Mannlist, I would hope that you would welcome another Aimee concert notice, no matter how late the date, LOL! First, my thanks to Paul and Jill for setting me up with a ticket to the show. And Paul, I got the package of stickers, and have duly plastered them on all copies of Bachelor #2 at Borders, Tower, Hear Music, Moby Disc and Wherehouse Records in Santa Monica. You might want to alert Michael Hausman about the fact that the Borders in Santa Monica has that wretched Hip-O "Ultimate Collection" on one of its listening posts, but not "Bachelor #2". I complained to one of the people there, but was told it wasn't their decision...I had to talk with their head of music, who wasn't in at the time. Maybe Michael can call and chew them out. Okay, on to the show... AIMEE MANN FIGHTS THROUGH MUCUS AND SCHMOOZING AT HOUSE OF BLUES Thursday, December 7...Pearl Harbour Day...a "day which will live in infamy"...also the 20th anniversary of Darby(lead singer of the Germs) Crash's suicide...which would be completely overshadowed and forgotten in the wake of John Lennon's murder the following day...giving further proof of Darby's ability to always do the wrong thing at the wrong time. Meanwhile, I am suffering through my own case of bad timing, as it is 6pm and I am still stuck at work, with no relief in sight. I was hoping to get to the House of Blues early, before 7pm, so I could put up some Aimee posters around the venue. But one of my coworkers called in sick, leaving me to cover for her. It isn't until nearly 7pm when I finally am able to flee from work. There is no time for me to go home and get the Aimee posters, so I head immediately to the House of Blues, first stopping at the nearby market to get a giant tub of Red Vines and a Christmas card for Aimee. After enduring the ungodly traffic on Santa Monica Blvd(Sunset Blvd. would have been just as bad), I reach the faux-Bayou mess that is the Hollywood House of Blues at 7:50pm...10 minutes before the doors open. The first thing I discover, after a wasted trip up and down the stairs, is that the box office has been moved down from the street level. For those of you who have never been to the House of Blues, it is situated on a very steep incline. I got my ticket from the will call window, but met with difficulty from the fascistic H.O.B. staff when attempting to find out if any other Street Teamers were around...Paul, Jill, anyone... Resigning myself to the obvious, I gave up and took my place in line with the rest of the people waiting to be let in...I was number 8 in line. Gradually more and more people took their place in line until a little bit after 8pm, they opened the doors to let us in. There was already a small group of guys dead center in front of the stage, and I took my place to the left of them...right in front of what would prove to be the bass player's mic stand. I chatted with a nice couple from Chicago, recently moved to LA, and told them about the mannlist. It was her first time seeing Aimee Mann in concert, while the guy had seen her before on the "IWS" tour in 1996. There was a concession booth near the restrooms that was selling both "Bachelor #2" ($15) and the special Christmas cd single ($5), with the old chestnut "The Christmas Song", written by Mel Torme, backed with "Christmastime", lyrics by Michael Penn, music by Penn and Jon Brion, sung by Aimee Mann and Michael Penn. And FYI: here are the credits for "The Christmas Song": Aimee Mann: vocals Jon Brion: drums, guitar, organ Mike Deneen: piano, chamberlin Michael Rivard: bass Barry Marshall: vibes I bought two of the Christmas cd's...they also were selling the "Dodo" t-shirts for $20. The cover of the Christmas cd has a black & white photo of Aimee holding one of her evil Santas. It is an old picture, as her hair is much shorter than it is now. On the back cover is another photo of her holding evil Santa, this one in colour. And below the song titles and credits is this message: "Thank you so much for all your support this year. Merry Christmas! Love, Aimee" Anyway, back to the show...after drinking weak and overpriced tequila sunrises, there came that moment when you know when the show is about to start at the House of Blues...the opening of the overhead restaurant. A few minutes later, the house lights dimmed and what sounded like a man auditioning for a game show announced Grant-Lee Phillips to the stage. The elaborate quilted stage curtain parted to reveal Phillips was the one doing the carnival barkeresque introduction. Grant-Lee Phillips was attired in black leather pants, a blue jean jacket, and dusty boots. A 12-string acoustic guitar strapped on, he immediately launched into a tongue-in-cheek riff on the old blues classic, "I'm A Man", changing the spelling to M-A-N-N. He then assured us that it wouldn't be long before Aimee Mann, herself, was out on this very stage, professing how much he loved her and her music. Then he began his set in earnest. Not that the industry goons talking it up in the restaurant seemed to notice, or care...but I'll save that for later. Now, I have never seen Grant-Lee Phillips before, and only caught his prior band, Grant Lee Buffalo, once in concert, so I didn't really know what to expect from him on this night. But as the set went on, and he sang song after wonderful song in that pure and beautiful voice of his, and told his tales and jokes between songs...well, I was captivated. The total effect was much like a charming troubadour entertaining us all around a campfire. One of his early remarks in fact, was about that day's Stage 3 power alert, and how if the power went, it wouldn't affect his acoustic guitar. I don't know his songs very well, nor do I have his new album, so I can't give you an exact set list. I do know he did "Mockingbirds" and "Mighty Joe Moon" from his Grant Lee Buffalo days. At one point towards the end of his set, he brought out a couple of folky accompanists, Phil Parlapiano on accordion and Bill Bonk on mandolin and mellodium(or what- ever it is...the Hooters used to use one in their band). One especially lovely song had lyrics about "lazily drowning" and how "it's not a caring world". Some banter highlights included him going off about Gladiator, then repeating like a mantra "Gladiator of Roman Empire", then saying G-O-R-E! He compared Aimee Mann to Joan of Arc, saying Aimee had been burned and burned time and time again, but would keep rising from the flames. But, his funniest bit was when he mocked his leather pants, and then went on a spiel about Jim Morrison...that "Laureate of a poet, Morrison is lying dead underground after lying in his bathtub...BUT his pants are still on tour somewhere...in fact, they are opening for Creed tonight in Flint, Michigan." After 10 songs, his set was finished, and he left the stage to a warm response...at least from those who had been paying attention. For as is so often the custom at LA shows, the majority of the crowd seemed to be there to schmooze, and goddammit, they weren't about to let an opening act, or, heaven forbid, manners get in the way of their incessant chatter. One asshole behind me kept yakking to his date about how much he loved Grant-Lee Phillips...even while Grant was singing!?! Jeez, if you really love the guy, why don't you shut up so the rest of us can enjoy him too! My only hope now, was that this was just typical LA rudeness to the opening act, and that it wouldn't continue during Aimee's set. How wrong I would be...sigh. After a mercifully short break (standing room only at the H.O.B.) of 15 or 20 minutes, it was time for our heroine to appear. First the house lights darkened, and the haunting bells that signal Jon Brion's theme to "Magnolia" issued forth from the PA. As "Magnolia" continued to play, Aimee and the band made their way to the stage in the dim blue light. Looking towards the stage, starting on the left side, we have Jebim on keyboards, wearing bell-bottom jeans and a flowery long-sleeved shirt, and platform square-toed shoes or boots. With his long, wavy locks, and his very skinny frame, he looks like he stepped out of the late 60's- early 70's...think Blind Faith or Traffic. Next to him, and standing directly in front of me, is Paul Bryan on bass and backing vocals, looking very dapper in his black suit(I guess he was picking up the fashion slack left by Buddy's absence) and close-cropped hair. In the back, is drummer extraordinaire and all-around good guy, John Sands...his drum kit on the stage, no drum risers thank you. John is resplendant as well in burgundy red dress shirt and black suit. And, with his glasses, I am suddenly struck by how much he looks like the great classical pianist Peter Serkin, who I had just had the pleasure of seeing earlier that week. Center stage is Aimee, of course, and she is a vision in blue...faded flared blue jeans, sky-blue long-sleeved turtleneck and matching blue sleeveless leather(or vinyl?) vest with wide lapels. Her shoes are of the clunky variety...black Doc Martens(low-cut, I think). Her hair is long and straight, with short bangs framing her forehead. In fact, her hair is much longer than I am used to seeing on her, but it still looks good. To the right, last but not least, is Michael Lockwood on guitar. He is wearing a charcoal grey long-sleeved mock turtleneck tucked into very newish looking Levi 501's with the cuffs rolled up. His shoes are white and look to be of the boating style, or those old-style Vans lowtops. Michael is also wearing a greyish Kangol hat low on his head. As the last note of "Magnolia" fades, Jebim sounds the opening to "One", from the "Magnolia" soundtrack. As the band comes in, I am pleased to note that the sound is almost perfectly balanced...I can hear every instrument and every voice clear as a bell. Unfortunately, I can also still hear people chatting behind me...GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! But I decide to just ignore all distractions and concentrate on Aimee and enjoying the show. "One" is a nice choice for an opening number, benefitting, to my ear at least, from a freshness that comes from not being played live before. Not to mention that the band does a brilliant job of recreating every musical layer and vocal part that is on the recorded version. >From "One" we go immediately into the song that I thought would be the opening number, "Choice in the Matter". It is during this song that I begin to notice a difference in Aimee's voice...something in her timbre that recalls the time when she and Michael would perform at Largo while being under the weather. The band seems to be getting into it, however, and during the instrumantal break, Aimee and Jebim lock eyes and smile widely at each other. After this song, Aimee makes her opening remarks to the crowd, saying that she is "sick as a dog". She tells of how Michael Hausman sugggested she drink some ginger tea, so she sliced up some ginger for her tea. But, having also previously ingested some Sudafed, she was feeling the effects of the ginger and the sudafed combined...she was a "shakey dog!" And her "head was full of mucus!" And with that, a familiar drum pattern begins, signaling the arrival of "That's Just What You Are". Michael Lockwood plays a funky guitar solo on this song, using a sound similar to that of a Leslie organ effect. The set continues without much difficulty...technical or otherwise. "Save Me" follows, with Aimee noting it as the Oscar nominated song, and being that it is probably the only song many of the audience even knows, it gets a big hand of recognition at the start, and a rousing cheer at the finish. One thing that is a kick during "Save Me", and I highly recommend doing this the next time you see Aimee in concert, is to watch John Sands during "Save Me". He is so much fun to watch, and so fascinating...he is the very picture of concentration. For this song, he drapes a towel over his floor tom, and uses a mallet instead of a normal drumstick. And while his left hand is beating out the pattern on his toms and cymbals, his right hand is busy throwing shapes with a tambourine stick. It is quite a visual sight watching John's left hand moving vertically while his right hand is in a horizontal motion. I was smiling throughout the whole song while watching John...didn't even pay any attention to Aimee, LOL! "Save Me" is where I first noticed the difference between Aimee with a band, and the Acoustic Vaudeville performances at Largo. For besides the treat of John Sands that seeing Aimee with a band provides, there is also the way that you get to hear all the backing vocals nailed just like they are on record. Like those "doo dit it doo's" on "Save Me"... Paul and Michael got them down perfectly. After "Save Me" and "How Am I Different"(with Jebim contributing nice spooky whirls of sound), the band exits the stage, except for Aimee and Jebim. I believe it was at this time she made note of the election, and proudly stated she voted for Nader and pleaded with the crowd not to "storm the stage" in anger, LOL! She was fiddling with her acoustic guitar, and by the chords she was playing, I could tell that the next song was going to be "It's Not Safe" ...and it was. But the beginning was very different to how she usually performs it. While plucking the opening in a manner of say, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Aimee sang the opening verse in a kind of free form rapid style...if you didn't know the lyrics, you wouldn't have recognized it. Then, with the second verse, she went back to the usual arrangement, with Jebim providing chamberlin accompaniment. During the next song of this "solo acoustic set", "4th of July", she hit an off-note vocally, which was one of the only mistakes in the whole show...amazing when you consider how sick she was. After "4th of July", the band was brought back out and introduced, and now began the home stretch of the show..."Red Vines", "Susan"(Michael and Jebim getting into a groove with each other here), "Ghost World" (which Aimee introduced by way of saying that "this was a song about graduating from high school and not knowing what to do with the rest of your life.")...the band was picking up steam and having fun, even if a few nincompoops were still chattering away upstairs. With her trusty cream-coloured Epiphone, Aimee charged into those opening "Sympathy for the Devil" riffs of "Long Shot", and the advantage of electric Aimee was made clear...MORE GUITARS!!! Which is especially beneficial on a song like "Long Shot". Now you could sense everybody getting into the swing of things, as the band and audience were rocking out as one. During the middle break, as Michael cranked away(although I still would have liked more volume on his guitar), Aimee stomped and whirled in the soft yellow glow of her spotlight, as if she was trying to stomp the mucus out of her head. As she hammered out the rhythm riff on her guitar, she stomped and rocked so hard, that she shook a hair loose, and I watched as a lone singular strand of blond hair floated to the stage, shimmering in the spotlight. As Aimee wailed "please love me" at the end, they took the song into an extended jam coda...it was powerful and wonderful to hear them cutting loose like this. Needless to say, this song got one of the more raucous ovations of the night. One guy behind me shouted out, "You rock my world Aimee!" Aimee took a moment and then replied, "Thank you to the gentle- man whose world I rock." By now there was no stopping them, and to my delight they blasted into "Sugarcoated"!!! YES! More guitar-heavy songs...I LOVE IT!!! And while Michael was a bit more subdued at the end than I would have liked, it still was a joy to hear the band give this often overlooked song a workout. After "Sugarcoated", came the song which Aimee described as her theme song, "Calling It Quits", which is also the song with which she ends her sets, so I knew the evening was soon to be over...sob sob :-( I do like the drum machine beat that Aimee uses on this song, but I still prefer the Largo version to the recorded version. For one thing, Patrick Warren used to do a cool vibe-sounding solo just after the "Judy Garland storylines" part at the Largo shows. After the song, and about five minutes of audience clamoring for more, Aimee and band come out for a two song encore: "Wise Up", which again gets immediate approval from the "Magnolia"-heads in the audience. A very pretty rendition of this song indeed. If only the yakkers would wise up and stay home instead of going to concerts and talking through the songs. After "Wise Up", I slide the Christmas card and tub of Red Vines that I brought on the stage towards her mic stand. I catch her eye and she gives me a little smile. Next, a strum on her acoustic, and these great opening lyrics, "Now that I've met you/ would you object to/ never seeing each other again"...and I'm in bliss as "Deathly" is one of my all-time favourite Aimee songs, and this is my first chance to see her perform it with a full band! And the song is going well, and picking up momentum, until AGAIN Michael somehow refuses to cut loose on the solo...he is too restrained in my opinion. He should be wailing away, especially at the end. The song ends, good nights are said, and the band is gone...and Aimee doesn't even take my card and red vines with her...I hope the roadies didn't swipe them...Paul B., maybe you can look into this for me? The House of Blues parking lot is a madhouse after a concert, with gobs of people milling about waiting for valet parking to retrieve their SUV's or whatever. And I have no idea where the stage door is, or even if it is accessible to the public, so I didn't bother to wait outside for a chance to see Aimee. I did run into John Sands briefly at the bar shortly after the show...he was looking for a friend of his who wasn't able to get backstage. We talked briefly about the show, and about their upcoming gig at Seattle. I mentioned that he would probably bump into the ubiquitous Paul Barras. I told John how much fun he looked like he was having, and he allowed as to how much enjoyment he got when playing a full on band set-up like Aimee was on this tour...he liked getting the chance to pound away! We also discussed Michael Lockwood's seeming restraint on some of the solos, and John said that in a perfect world, they would have a second guitarist(calling Buddy Judge?) to help flesh out the sound. All in all though, it was a good Aimee show...not great, but considering her illness, and the blasé nature of some of the industry weasels in attendance(Aimee has reached that point where it is deemed important to be seen at her gigs by the hipster-doofus crowd...you know, the ones that always dress in black and carry two pagers and three cellulars), she did better than most would in her situation. I will second what many people have said about how she seems looser and more outgoing when she performs with Michael Penn, which is only natural I think. Also the format of Acoustic Vaudeville, with the comic adding banter, tends to promote a more intimate and friendly vibe. And playing before your fans, friends and fellow musicians at Largo is much less stressful than playing to the tourists and jaded scenesters at House of Blues....not that there weren't fans at the H.O.B. show. Speaking of fans, I want to close out on something I noticed at the show and at other Aimee shows I have been to...namely, the lack of women. I counted the whole first row at the H.O.B. show...there were only 5 women standing in front. Now contrast that with a Sarah McLachlan or Sheryl Crow or Jewel or Tori Amos or Ani diFranco or any other female artist you care to name...when you go to their concerts, it is a sea of women and girls. Particularly in the first row. So, where are all the female Aimee fans? I noticed that among many of the couples and groups of people at the H.O.B. show(and the Sun theatre concert the following week), it was the woman who was seeing Aimee for the first time...it was her husband or boyfriend or whatever who turned them on to Aimee first, not the other way around. Is Aimee alone among women artists in attracting a predominantly male crowd? Just curious... To recap, here is the complete 12-7-00 House of Blues set list: 1. One 2. Choice in the Matter 3. That's Just What You Are 4. Save Me 5. How Am I Different 6. It's Not Safe-Aimee and Jebim only 7. 4th of July-Aimee and Jebim only 8. Red Vines 9. Susan 10. Ghost World 11. Long Shot 12. Sugarcoated 13. Calling It Quits ENCORE: 14. Wise Up 15. Deathly My review of the Sun Theatre concert of December 13 will follow shortly. Russ, Salt, and anyone else with an Aimee or music website: If you want to use this post for your site, feel free...with proper credit given, of course, LOL! Just let me know if you need anything edited out or changed, and I'll try to accomodate you. Happy Holidays! Sean Rey :-) "It's not the things you do at Christmas time But the Christmas things you do all year through" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sharbear@epix.net Mon Dec 18 19:56:33 2000 Received: from lima.epix.net (lima.epix.net [199.224.64.56]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA13762 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:56:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from epix.net (svcr-adsl-209-74-0-23.epix.net [209.74.0.23]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with ESMTP id eBJ1uRN23008; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:56:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A3EC028.66348680@epix.net> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:55:53 -0500 From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid X-Sender: "Sharon McDonnell Schmid" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AWeiss4338@aol.com CC: jillpw@hotmail.com, lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: B#2 XMas Blues.... References: <8.db34bc2.276d69c7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sharbear@epix.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I agree, too Andy! Everywhere I've encountered have been surprisingly supportive! Don't get too discouraged. ;) shar AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 00-12-16 15:28:35 EST, jillpw@hotmail.com writes: > > > Andy's experience is not unique but in many many stores Street Teamers have > > encountered Aimee Mann fans. So Andy,...I wouldn't be too discouraged. > You > > > > may have better luck with other stores. > > > > Yesterday, I visited an independent and a Coconuts when I went out for > > lunch. In both places the managers know me by now and reported that the > CD > > is still selling. At the Independent (Nathan Muchnik's On Chestnut Street) > > the poster display is still up and the Bachelor No. 2 CDs are in a > prominent > > > > location on the wall. At Coconuts (also on Chestnut) they were out of the > > CD but the manager said he had more on order and I left some stickers with > > him. > > > I agree with Jill, Andy most record stores have been very good about Aimee, > I've had no problems so far with doing stuff for the street team with them. > ALthough to day when I was at Borders (Princeton NJ) the guy who I asked > about stickering B#2 albums, thought they were for every album, which was > funny. They still have their display too. > Andrea >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Mon Dec 18 20:56:39 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA19478 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:56:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.90.87]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001219025607.XUAG5130.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 02:56:07 +0000 Message-ID: <00df01c06967$610c06e0$3b414f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: OT - Spiritual Thoughts Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:57:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DC_01C0693D.76787060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01C0693D.76787060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sick and sitting at home feeling sorry for myself doing what has = become as much a part of being sick as hot soup. Watching VH1's "Behind = the Music". As I popped my medicine hoping to fall in to sleep or a coma = I watched the story of Cat Stevens. Funny how you think you know about = an artist till you see one of those shows! I was not a big fan but I = have several of his CD and thought I had an idea of what his life was = about. Not being a "religious" person per say. (I believe in God but not as = defined by churches but that's not really the point of my post.) I was = struck by how great it must be to have sense of purpose and direction. = Jill Sobule wrote a song about it called "Somewhere in New Mexico". = While I'm sure that it's (religion) not really my cup of tea I must = admit to being envious of his peace of mind. One must admire his = dedication to faith and his life of helping others. Somewhere in New Mexico I have a friend who swears she saw Jesus Hovering above her lonely bed She said it changed her life forever "Whatever works," I said All afternoon I change the channels It's so hard to concentrate I laugh at her, but I'm pretty sure She's having a better day.... ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01C0693D.76787060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sick and sitting at home feeling sorry for myself doing what = has become=20 as much a part of being sick as hot soup. Watching VH1's = "Behind the=20 Music". As I popped my medicine hoping to fall in to sleep or a coma I = watched=20 the story of Cat Stevens. Funny how you think you know about an artist = till you=20 see one of those shows! I was not a big fan but I have several of his CD = and=20 thought I had an idea of what his life was about.
 
Not being a "religious" person per say. (I believe in God but not = as=20 defined by churches but that's not really the point of my post.) I was = struck by=20 how great it must be to have sense of purpose and direction. Jill Sobule = wrote a=20 song about it called "Somewhere in New Mexico". While I'm sure that it's = (religion) not really my cup of tea I must admit to being = envious of=20 his peace of mind. One must admire his dedication to faith and his life = of=20 helping others.
 
Somewhere in = New=20 Mexico
I have a friend who swears she saw = Jesus
Hovering=20 above her lonely bed
She said it changed her life = forever
"Whatever=20 works," I said
All afternoon I change the channels
It's so hard to = concentrate
I laugh at her, but I'm pretty sure
She's having a = better=20 day....
------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01C0693D.76787060-- >From missy@honeybeepub.com Mon Dec 18 21:25:33 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA21796 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:25:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA99845; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:25:29 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:27:02 -0800 Subject: Re: Aimee's House of Blues show From: Missy Roback To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN they were most likely telling you the truth when they said it wasn't their decision. those highly coveted listening station slots are paid for by the record companies 99.9% of the time. > You might want to alert > Michael Hausman about the fact that the Borders in Santa Monica has > that wretched Hip-O "Ultimate Collection" on one of its listening posts, > but not "Bachelor #2". I complained to one of the people there, but was > told it wasn't their decision...I had to talk with their head of music, > who wasn't in at the time. Maybe Michael can call and chew them out. >From bigsean62@hotmail.com Mon Dec 18 21:42:50 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f30.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.30]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA23063 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:42:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:42:18 -0800 Received: from 164.67.232.34 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 03:42:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.67.232.34] From: "viva steffi" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee's Sun Theatre show Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:42:18 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2000 03:42:18.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFD53070:01C0696D] Reply-To: bigsean62@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Now on to the Aimee Mann/Grant-Lee Phillips concert at the Sun Theatre in Anaheim, California(behind the Orange Curtain, LOL), Wednesday Dec. 13, 2000. I will try to make this shorter than my House of Blues review. AIMEE BURSTS THROUGH COLD AND ORANGE CURTAIN AT SUN THEATRE So, it is just after 7pm on the night of December 13, when I step off the train at the Anaheim stop, which is right smack in the middle of the parking lot that Edison Field(formerly Anaheim Stadium) and the Sun Theatre share. So, it is only a short walk before I am at the Sun Theatre box office, noticing on the way, that Disneyland is having their holiday fireworks show at the moment, filling the sky with a dazzling display of light. Of course, I immediately think of the line in "4th of July" about it being a "waste of gunpowder and sky"...very apropos and I take it as a good omen for the concert to come. I also have to tell you that the Sun Theatre is absolutely huge...I mean it is gigantic when you consider how little the capacity is. Their is a big water tower sign outside in front of the theatre to let you know you have arrived at the right place. And, after walking through a courtyard, and then a lounge-lobby, you are in the theatre itself, with rows and rows of tables arranged perpindicular to the stage. It is like being in a casino, except that the ceiling is miles above you...I swear it is like being in a gigantic barn...or an airplane hanger, LOL! And the colour scheme is purple...like the Cineplex Odeon cinema chain. Prince should play here. Me and my friend(thanks to Brooke Mortenson and Paul and Jill for the tickets) sat down at our seats at Table #333. After ordering some beer and the Super Nachos, I headed off to find a roadie or someone I could have give Aimee and the band a loaf of Pumpkin-Sherry bread I had baked for Christmas. After not too long a wait, Grant-Lee Phillips came on, and I immediately could tell that he had gotten a haircut, and he was wearing black-framed glasses. Plus, no leather pants tonight...just jeans and a dark green hockey sweater with the number 6. There are two video screens on both sides of the stage, and they were turned on for this concert so those in the back could get a close-up look...which was kind of funny considering that the place only holds a 1000 or so people. I mean, it is not exactly your typical enormo-dome. He played pretty much the same set as the House of Blues...10 songs, and he also had Phil and Bill with him. I have been able to find out two of the newer songs he played both nights..."Heavenly" and "St. Expedite". He also played "Mighty Joe Moon" and "Mockingbirds" tonight as well. Some of his banter included this bit talking about how he was of the 90's decade and the last time he played Anaheim: "Let's take a moment to remember the 90's...1997, the year of the great ska revolt...is NO DOUBT here? Anyone?...not even the guy who shook the maracas?" "This song goes out to all the water signs...Scorpio, Pisces...and of course, Cancer...we'll get to the rest of the signs as we go along." "These songs are in Bible Code...some of you who saw the movie "PI" are picking up the extra layers of meaning..." Soundwise, Grant-Lee was in fine voice again, although the guitar had some extra hum at the low end at times. And, given the hanger-like design of the theatre, there was some echo and rumbling...although it would be more prevalent during Aimee's set. And so...onto Aimee's set. Following an almost unheard of short 15 minute break, the place darkened and Jon Brion's theme for "Magnolia" started, and Aimee and band came on at exactly 9:30pm...beginning again with "One". In fact, the whole set list was pretty much the same as the House of Blues show, and in the same order. But, whereas the band was rather dapper looking at the H.O.B. concert, tonight they were definitely going for the comfy look. Ironic when you consider that it is the H.O.B. that tries to cultivate a grungy atmosphere, while the Sun Theatre looks like a supper club. Aimee was the only one who looked the same...same flared blue jeans, same blue turtleneck, same blue vest. As for the others, Michael had on blue jeans and a dark grey fleece pullover; Jebim wore a dark grey/black long-sleeved mock-turtleneck shirt and jeans; Paul wore a black long- sleeved shirt with some sort of red graphics on the front and jeans; and John was wearing a red long-sleeved mock-turtleneck(sense a trend here, LOL?) AND he also had a buzzcut. The video screens were off for the first few songs of Aimee's set for some reason...but then remained on throughout the rest of the show. Let us go through the set list... Intro: Brion's theme for "Magnolia" 1. One 2. Choice in the Matter 3. That's Just What You Are(Aimee remarks that "Michael, sadly, is home") 4. How Am I Different (before this she introduces the band, and also brings out Michael Paynes to play violin..."he's actually a screenwriter but he's also a very good violin player, bizarrely." A cell phone goes off during this song...I grind my teeth in anger grrrrrrrrrrrrr!) 5. Save Me ( introducing this song, she says this is the song that lost everytime it was nominated to that Phil Collins song from "Tarzan...the cartoon monkee...and that's how I kind of feel about the election") 6. It's Not Safe-Aimee and Jebim (as usual, the band leaves after "Save Me", and it is just Aimee and Jebim for the next two songs. Aimee again does the beginning of this song in her new Jobim-style...after the song, she says, "Thank you very much...that's sort of my all-purpose protest song, with my usual message: Give up! It's hopeless!") 7. 4th of July 8. Red Vines (whole band back now) 9. Susan (while tuning, she encourages the people to talk amongst yourselves...asks how the people on the extreme sides of the stage are handling it and if there necks are sore...not much response from crowd to this question, so she says, "that was a pitiful display") 10. Ghost World ( still hearing distinct bass rumblings echoing through the building, and backing vocals are very hard to hear throughout the show) 11. Long Shot (before song, mentions her cold...says she could use "a little tea...I have a little cold"...this song really kicks ass tonight ...Michael is really cutting loose...much more than he did at the H.O.B. show...maybe John had a talk with him...at the end, when the band goes into the jam, Aimee and Michael do a little pas de deux...they rock the place and the crowd responds with real fervor for the first time tonight) 12. Sugarcoated ( continuing the buzz, they rock this better than they did at the H.O.B. show as well...my feelings at this point in the show are like Happy Happy Joy Joy!) 13. Calling It Quits ( the end of the main set...followed by a few minutes of applause and then the encore...it is exactly 10:30pm at this point of the show) Encore: 14. Wise Up ( Michael Paynes again lends his "bizarre" violin to the mix to wonderful effect) 15. Deathly ( wonderful performance except that with the backing vocals so buried in the mix, you don't get that hair-raising effect when they come in at the end when she sings the final verse "so you're on your honour..." and they swoop in with "oh pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaasssssse"...at the H.O.B. show it was absolutely scintillating...here it was a merely good performance...the best part was at the end, when Aimee runs and jumps up at the final crashing chord...like Elvis or Bruce Springsteen ...she definitely wasn't letting her cold keep her from rocking out!) And a bonus surprise!!! Another encore song...and as people shout out various songs...one guy shouts out "Atmosphere"!...I shout out in my loudest voice, "I've Had It"! I tried to get my friend to shout out "Time Stands Still", but he wasn't having any of that...even when I offered him $5, LOL! So, what song does our beautiful songstress reward us with for the end? 16. I'VE HAD IT!!! ( Yippee!!!) And, so closes another Aimee Mann concert...the 26th time I have seen Aimee Mann in concert, counting both Til Tuesday and solo gigs. I would put this somewhere in the upper third of all the shows I have seen her do. If only the sound would have been better, like it was at the H.O.B. show. But, even merely good Aimee is still a wonderful treat, and this concert is yet another memory to add to my list of Aimee memories. Post-concert note: I am at the Denny's across the street from the Sun theatre after the show, and the waitress is asking me if I was coming from the Mighty Ducks hockey game that was being played that same night at the Arrowhead Pond(and there were quite a few people there in Mighty Ducks jerseys)...I tell her(her name was Emily) "No, I was at the Aimee Mann concert at the Sun theatre." Emily gives me a blank look. "You know, Aimee Mann?" I say. Still she has this blank look. "Aimee Mann...she did the soundtrack to 'Magnolia'". Still nothing. Finally, exasperated, I say, "Aimee Mann...she used to be in Til Tuesday!" Well, finally an alarm goes off in her head, and she says, "Oh yeah, I remember that band...is she still around?" At this point I want to scream "AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!" I mean, how is it possible for people to remain so ignorant about music? I can understand if you are a doctor or research physicist, or something like that, that requires major amounts of your time and mental capacity, limiting your contact with the outside world. But, Jiminy Cricket...you are a waitress at Denny's! I would think even just a cursory glance at the newspaper or tv during the past year would have been enough to alert one to the existence and ongoing career of Aimee Mann. But that's just me... Sean :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 18 23:27:59 2000 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA00586 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:27:58 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.f7.5c8826b (1782) for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:27:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:27:23 EST Subject: Notice-OT To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f7.5c8826b.27704bbb_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_f7.5c8826b.27704bbb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My next instalment of I Know There's a Word, my column on writing is at http://users.lmi.net/qink, AOL's gay/lesbian writers site. Click on Navigator, then I Know There's A Word, and there you have it. It's on agents, if you want to know how to get one, this is how. Yeah it's named after the Aimee song. And speaking of agents, I kind of, sort of, maybe have one, if only for one night. I went to an AOL chat for writers of Westerns. There was an agent as a guest. Naturally everyone asked her about their books, and they weren't all westerns either. So after the chat I sent an Instant Message to her, which was how we should contact her. She knows One Editor and one only that does lesbian romances. She's going to ask her about the book and get back to me. Meanwhile I have to reduce the book from 500 to 350/300 pages, something I wanted to already when I copy edited it, which I'm doing now. And there is still the other agent, who I'm sending everything to next week. And then nothing could happen with either of these agents. And then I self publish, 95% chance that will happen still. Or something could, wish me luck. Andrea --part1_f7.5c8826b.27704bbb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My next instalment of I Know There's a Word, my column on writing is at
http://users.lmi.net/qink, AOL's gay/lesbian writers site.  Click on
Navigator, then I Know There's A Word, and there you have it.  It's on
agents, if you want to know how to get one, this is how. Yeah it's named
after the Aimee song.
And speaking of agents, I kind of, sort of, maybe have one, if only for one
night.
I went to an AOL chat for writers of Westerns.  There was an agent as a
guest.  Naturally everyone asked her about their books, and they weren't all
westerns either. So after the chat I sent an Instant Message to her, which
was how we should contact her.  She knows One Editor and one only that does
lesbian romances.  She's going to ask her about the book and get back to me.  
Meanwhile I have to reduce the book from 500 to 350/300 pages, something I
wanted to already when I copy edited it, which I'm doing now.
And there is still the other agent, who I'm sending everything to next week.  
And then nothing could happen with either of these agents.  And then I self
publish, 95% chance that will happen still.  Or something could, wish me luck.
Andrea
--part1_f7.5c8826b.27704bbb_boundary-- >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Tue Dec 19 01:21:16 2000 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA07320 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 01:21:15 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.a4.da6f65b (4236) for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 02:20:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 02:20:37 EST Subject: Christmas Song CD To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 126 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN What a wonderful surprise in the mail today- the Christmas Song CD! What a class act by Aimee and SuperEgo to send out the CD to her fans. Is there anything better to be than an Aimee Mann fan? The Christmas Song as sung by Nat King Cole as long been my all time favorite Christmas song. This version by Aimee, which I just listened to for the first time, is an absolutely beautiful arrangement and Aimee's voice is just gorgeous. And of course, Aimee and Michael are just wonderful on the Christmastime duet. Happy holidays to all the Mannlisters and to Aimee and Michael! Steve >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 19 01:30:53 2000 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA07855 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 01:30:53 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id g.6e.612b268 (4235); Tue, 19 Dec 2000 02:30:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6e.612b268.2770688b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 02:30:19 EST Subject: Re: Christmas Song CD To: Brwnshoe@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6e.612b268.2770688b_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_6e.612b268.2770688b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/19/00 2:21:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, Brwnshoe@aol.com writes: > What a wonderful surprise in the mail today- the Christmas Song CD! What a > class act by Aimee and SuperEgo to send out the CD to her fans. Is there > anything better to be than an Aimee Mann fan? > > The Christmas Song as sung by Nat King Cole as long been my all time > favorite > Christmas song. This version by Aimee, which I just listened to for the > first > time, is an absolutely beautiful arrangement and Aimee's voice is just > gorgeous. > > And of course, Aimee and Michael are just wonderful on the Christmastime > duet. > > Happy holidays to all the Mannlisters and to Aimee and Michael! > > I got the CD too today, it's wonderful. Happy everything to the list and Aimee and Michael. Andrea --part1_6e.612b268.2770688b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/19/00 2:21:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Brwnshoe@aol.com writes:


What a wonderful surprise in the mail today- the Christmas Song CD! What a
class act by Aimee and SuperEgo to send out the CD to her fans. Is there
anything better to be than an Aimee Mann fan?

The Christmas Song as sung by Nat King Cole as long been my all time
favorite
Christmas song. This version by Aimee, which I just listened to for the
first
time, is an absolutely beautiful arrangement and Aimee's voice is just
gorgeous.

And of course, Aimee and Michael are just wonderful on the Christmastime
duet.

Happy holidays to all the Mannlisters and to Aimee and Michael!



I got the CD too today, it's wonderful.  Happy everything to the list and
Aimee and Michael.
Andrea --part1_6e.612b268.2770688b_boundary-- >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Tue Dec 19 02:50:58 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f47.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA08902 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 02:50:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:50:27 -0800 Received: from 172.162.61.120 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:50:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.162.61.120] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Peter Parker??? Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:50:26 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2000 08:50:27.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBCF89E0:01C06998] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I must add that I have had better luck with stores too. Andy, those MART stores (along with Target) shouldn't discourage you. I was a bit of an outlaw today. I went to photograph displays at a CD Warehouse in Lafayette, LA done by Mannlister Mike Hernandez--another example of a quality human being I have met on this list--and while in the store snapping photos, a surly employee told me I couldn't just come in taking pictures. (tell it to Japanese tourists). Anyhow, after it was explained how I might be "casing the place for robbery" (yeah, with a flash camera instead of a cool James Bond *pen* or *sunglass* camera made by Q *sheesh*). Everyone knows, no cameras in casinos and CD stores, right??? OK, we were all laughing a few minutes later, but give retail clerks a little bit of authority and they turn into S.S. officers or Sean Penn! The listening stations are decided by who pays for them. Red Inc did quite a bit of that sort of placement for Aimee early on. Sean, great and THOROUGH reviews. You are setting the bar too high for our reports from the upcoming AV shows. Paul Feeling a bit like an outlaw tonite P.S. Rams lose and might miss the playoffs! Sweet! All the sports pundits picked the Rams vs Redskins in NFC Conference game. hahahaha! Saints clinch NFC West! I leave at 11AM, but I think there's time for one drink on the streets of the French Quarter! Woo hoo! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From mvfisk@gj.net Tue Dec 19 06:11:43 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id GAA12079 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 06:11:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.65.67] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A0E711F5002E; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 05:13:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3A3F5034.5F320303@gj.net> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 05:10:28 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: voting xpn Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Voting on the xpn top 50 is now closed, but the site says it will open again Dec. 26-31.
I picked Aimee, Michael, Joe Cocker, Chuck Brodsky, and...and...I forget!  Lots of
good choices there, and I was thinking of copying that list for a shopping list for myself.
I will make sure to listen to XPN next time I get to Philadelphia!

Michael F.
(np-"People's Parties"-Joni Mitchell) >From sharbear@epix.net Tue Dec 19 08:08:45 2000 Received: from bean.epix.net (bean.epix.net [199.224.64.57]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA23463 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:08:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from epix.net (svcr-adsl-209-74-0-23.epix.net [209.74.0.23]) by bean.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with ESMTP id eBJE8g504680; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:08:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A3F6BA9.54C80B70@epix.net> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:07:37 -0500 From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid X-Sender: "Sharon McDonnell Schmid" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist CC: Paul Barras , Jill Weisenfeld Subject: The Christmas CD!!! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------75917381CDECE12CEF9F6AEF" Reply-To: sharbear@epix.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --------------75917381CDECE12CEF9F6AEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow! I woke up this morning to the best surprise I could ever ask for.....a package from SuperEgo with Aimee's Christmas cd inside!!!!!! THANK YOU, MR. HAUSMAN, AIMEE, MICHAEL and all involved with SuperEgo Records!!! Just knowing that Aimee's talent may reach a few more people as a result of the small effort on the Street Team's part is gratifying enough. But your gift put a permanent smile on my face...as I'm certain it will for many others. Thank you so much for your thoughtful gesture. Happy Holidays... love, sharon --------------75917381CDECE12CEF9F6AEF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow!  I woke up this morning to the best surprise I could ever ask for.....a package from SuperEgo with Aimee's Christmas cd inside!!!!!!

THANK YOU, MR. HAUSMAN, AIMEE, MICHAEL and all involved with SuperEgo Records!!!   Just knowing that Aimee's talent may reach a few more people as a result of the small effort on the Street Team's part is gratifying enough.  But your gift put a permanent smile on my face...as I'm certain it will for many others.  Thank you so much for your thoughtful gesture.  Happy Holidays...

love,
sharon
 
  --------------75917381CDECE12CEF9F6AEF-- >From jillpw@hotmail.com Tue Dec 19 09:41:20 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f294.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.172]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id JAA27539 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:41:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:40:49 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:40:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: Brwnshoe@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: The Christmas Song CD Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:40:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2000 15:40:49.0943 (UTC) FILETIME=[1008BA70:01C069D2] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi All, I guess Steve's message about the Christmas CD needs an explanation. The Christmas CD was sent out as a surprise holiday thank you present to SuperEgo Street Team members who have been working hard at building poster displays, distributing flyers and stickers, etc. It was not sent to the entire Mannlist. Paul and I were going to send a note to the Street Team about it but we decided to wait until Friday because we thought it would be nice to leave it as a surprise. The Christmas CD was conceived as a Thank You for the Street Team and the people who helped Aimee during the year (hence the thank you note from Aimee on the back). It was only after the CD was in production that they decided to make them available at concerts and through Artists Direct. Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Tue Dec 19 10:08:15 2000 Received: from web1402.mail.yahoo.com (web1402.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.166]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id KAA28900 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:08:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001219160814.9820.qmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.117] by web1402.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:08:14 PST Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:08:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: Re: Aimee in London. To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-805750846-977242094=:8530" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-805750846-977242094=:8530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thanks ian! I just bought the save me single for 6.35 pounds (about $9) including shipping From: Ian F. Braidwood. To: Mannlist Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: Aimee in London. Howdy, Just to say that I took a trip into London the other day and HMV had Coming Up Close, the Til Tuesday retrospective at £6.99. They had stock of the Save Me single and if you want to ignore Aimee's wishes, the Ultimate Collection; though you'll have to stump up about £20 for that. (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-805750846-977242094=:8530 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

thanks ian! I just bought the save me single for 6.35 pounds (about $9) including shipping

  From: Ian F. Braidwood.
To: Mannlist
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:45 PM
Subject: Aimee in London.


Howdy,

Just to say that I took a trip into London the other day and HMV had Coming
Up Close, the Til Tuesday retrospective at £6.99.

They had stock of the Save Me single and if you want to ignore Aimee's
wishes, the Ultimate Collection; though you'll have to stump up about £20
for that.

(-: Ian :-)

I count myself in nothing else so happy
As in a soul remembering my good friends
- Richard II by William Shakespeare



Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. --0-805750846-977242094=:8530-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 19 12:51:15 2000 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA26125 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:51:14 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.c8.e4f2ced (3985) for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:50:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:50:40 EST Subject: Kirsty MacColl To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c8.e4f2ced.27710800_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_c8.e4f2ced.27710800_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just saw this on another lists. Don't know how many fans of Kirsty MacColl there were on the list, but I thought I'd say it anyway. She died in a boating accedent this week in Mexico. She was 41, had two kids, married to producer Steve Lilywhite (U2). She's best known for a hit Traci Ulman had many years ago, They Don't Know, that she wrote, and had her own hit here in 1992 with Walking Down Madison. She's also know for her X-mass duet with the Pouges, Fairytail Of New York. She's been a favorite songwriter of mine for some years now and she will be missed. If you can find in the import shops her current album Tropical Brainstorm, grab it, it's great. It's not avabile here, I've never found out why. This is must very very sad. Andrea --part1_c8.e4f2ced.27710800_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just saw this on another lists.  Don't know how many fans of Kirsty MacColl
there were on the list, but I thought I'd say it anyway.
She died in a boating accedent this week in Mexico.  She was 41, had two
kids, married to producer Steve Lilywhite (U2).
She's best known for a hit Traci Ulman had many years ago, They Don't Know,
that she wrote, and had her own hit here in 1992 with Walking Down Madison.  
She's also know for her X-mass duet with the Pouges, Fairytail Of New York.
She's been a favorite songwriter of mine for some years now and she will be
missed.  If you can find in the import shops her current album Tropical
Brainstorm, grab it, it's great.  It's not avabile here, I've never found out
why.  This is must very very sad.
Andrea --part1_c8.e4f2ced.27710800_boundary-- >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Tue Dec 19 13:37:02 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f3.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA29533 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:37:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:36:31 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:36:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: StreetTeamers' Christmas CD, thoughts Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:36:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2000 19:36:31.0408 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD010B00:01C069F2] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi, I just wanted to share my thoughts on receiving this CD in the mail yesterday. It was such a sweet gesture and a wonderful way to end the year. Around this time last year, I bought a used/promo copy of the "Magnolia" soundtrack (it was a recommendation) before heading to work at my Christmas job at Ross (gag), and I had the chance to pop it in the player and catch 30 seconds worth of "One" before rushing in the busy store for my shift. After hearing those few seconds, I had something to look forward to - listening to the whole CD after work! Since then, I have been a Mann addict and had the opportunity to see AV at Santa Ynez (and meet some great people at the show!) and listen to her music whenever I had the chance. Getting this CD from AM is yet another reason to love her - she's a wonderful musician, a great person and appreciative of her fans! :-) Happy Holidays! ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister "Though you pay for the hand they're shaking Speeches and the mistakes they're making As they struggle with the undertaking of simple thought" Aimee Mann "You're With Stupid Now" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Tue Dec 19 14:26:24 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f254.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.129]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA03767 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:26:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:25:53 -0800 Received: from 172.162.101.67 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:25:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.162.101.67] From: "Paul Barras" To: sharbear@epix.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: The Christmas CD!!! Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:25:53 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2000 20:25:53.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2B638E0:01C069F9] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is just too easy. Sorry. I took a speed reading course once and I think it improved my reading by a couple of words per hour. But I do remember the *skim* part. I am always excited to get an email from Sharbear, but I am at an airport lounge in Newark whisking thru my mail and imagine my perverted mind racing when I skimmed: "Wow! I woke up this morning to the best surprise I could ever ask for...a package But your gift put a permanent smile on my face...as I'm certain it will for many others..." Hey, Sharon, you're easy!! If a CD puts a permanent smile on your face in the A.M., Pete doesn't have to work too hard! You probably don't even muss that beautiful head of hair, do ya?! heh, heh! I can appreciatae a good disc in the morning too. (say that fast five times! ;-)) Ditto, Jack?!! You folks are way too easy. I think Aimee should have baked us cookies! You know with a Dodo cookie cutter. >From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid >>Subject: The Christmas CD!!! >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:07:37 -0500 > >Wow! I woke up this morning to the best surprise I could ever ask >for.....a package from SuperEgo with Aimee's Christmas cd inside!!!!!! > >THANK YOU, MR. HAUSMAN, AIMEE, MICHAEL and all involved with SuperEgo >Records!!! Just knowing that Aimee's talent may reach a few more >people as a result of the small effort on the Street Team's part is >gratifying enough. But your gift put a permanent smile on my face...as >I'm certain it will for many others. Thank you so much for your >thoughtful gesture. Happy Holidays... > >love, >sharon > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Tue Dec 19 16:51:37 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA14923 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:51:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.90.105]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001219225105.HYTF5130.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:51:05 +0000 Message-ID: <014b01c06a0e$5088c180$3b414f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: New Releases at CDNOW Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:52:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0148_01C069E4.66FB9E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0148_01C069E4.66FB9E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out the favorite new music of the CDNOW staff! In this = week's email, we selected music that we love and would like to share = with you. Plus, all of the music in this email is on sale - up to 30% = off! So if you need a recommendation to bring zest to your collection at = great prices, just take a look and a listen here:=20 Aimee Mann Bachelor No. 2 List Price $16.97 CDNOW Price $12.99=20 Add to Cart =20 Following her success with=20 the Magnolia soundtrack, 'Til Tuesday founder Aimee Mann has = returned to the pop spotlight with a strong roots album. Bachelor No. 2 = draws inspiration from the flowing vocals of Natalie Merchant and the = downhome rock of Tom Petty, illustrated on eminently accessible tracks = like "The Fall of the World's Own Optimist."=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0148_01C069E4.66FB9E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0148_01C069E4.66FB9E80-- >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Tue Dec 19 17:09:56 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA16422 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:09:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [206.8.2.114] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 19-Dec-2000 17:08:35 -0600 Date: 19 Dec 2000 17:13:00 -0600 Message-ID: <-1234876518jsteinmann@clynch.com> Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jack Steinmann Subject: Fwd: New Releases at CDNOW To: The Mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id RAA16426 X-Sender: Jack Steinmann X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 From: beachbum13 Check out the favorite new music of the CDNOW staff! In this week's email, we selected music that we love and would like to share with you. Plus, all of the music in this email is on sale 52; up to 30% off! So if you need a recommendation to bring zest to your collection at great prices, just take a look and a listen here:   Aimee Mann Bachelor No. 2 List Price $16.97 CDNOW Price $12.99 Add to Cart Following her success with the Magnolia soundtrack, 'Til Tuesday founder Aimee Mann has returned to the pop spotlight with a strong roots album. Bachelor No. 2 draws inspiration from the flowing vocals of Natalie Merchant and the downhome rock of Tom Petty, illustrated on eminently accessible tracks like "The Fall of the World's Own Optimist." >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Tue Dec 19 17:10:30 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA16506 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:10:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.90.105]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001219230958.IEGL5130.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:09:58 +0000 Message-ID: <018601c06a10$f4058f80$3b414f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: OT - Nostradamus (c. 1555) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:11:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0183_01C069E7.0A800DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0183_01C069E7.0A800DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As you know I don't agree with the Bush-bashing. I think he'll be fine. = But here's for the rest of you a XMas haha. >=20 > =20 > Come the millennium, month 12, > In the home of greatest power, > The village idiot will come forth > To be acclaimed the leader. > --Nostradamus (c. 1555) > =20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0183_01C069E7.0A800DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
As you = know I=20 don't agree with the Bush-bashing. I think he'll be fine. But here's for = the=20 rest of you a XMas haha.
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>  Come the=20 millennium, month 12,
>  In the home of greatest = power,
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------=_NextPart_000_0183_01C069E7.0A800DA0-- >From edmund@e-p-w.net Tue Dec 19 17:38:28 2000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA18323 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:38:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.8.84.73] (helo=m006nb00) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.11 #5) id 148WKq-000AZI-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:38:21 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c06a14$6e2e6b80$c55608c3@m006nb00> Reply-To: "Edmund PW" From: "Edmund PW" To: References: Subject: OT: Kirsty MacColl Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:33:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C06A14.11F60580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C06A14.11F60580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is really sad news. Kirsty MacColl's songwriting alwasys brought a = smile to my face and she was also an under-rated singer. I still think = that "Electric Landlady" is one of the funniest album titles ever! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: AWeiss4338@aol.com=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:50 PM Subject: Kirsty MacColl I just saw this on another lists. Don't know how many fans of Kirsty = MacColl=20 there were on the list, but I thought I'd say it anyway.=20 She died in a boating accedent this week in Mexico. She was 41, had = two=20 kids, married to producer Steve Lilywhite (U2).=20 She's best known for a hit Traci Ulman had many years ago, They Don't = Know,=20 that she wrote, and had her own hit here in 1992 with Walking Down = Madison. =20 She's also know for her X-mass duet with the Pouges, Fairytail Of New = York.=20 She's been a favorite songwriter of mine for some years now and she = will be=20 missed. If you can find in the import shops her current album = Tropical=20 Brainstorm, grab it, it's great. It's not avabile here, I've never = found out=20 why. This is must very very sad.=20 Andrea=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C06A14.11F60580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is really sad = news.  Kirsty=20 MacColl's songwriting alwasys brought a smile to my face and she was = also an=20 under-rated singer.  I still think that "Electric Landlady" is one = of the=20 funniest album titles ever!
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 AWeiss4338@aol.com
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu =
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, = 2000 6:50=20 PM
Subject: Kirsty MacColl

I just saw = this on=20 another lists.  Don't know how many fans of Kirsty MacColl =
there were=20 on the list, but I thought I'd say it anyway.
She died in a = boating=20 accedent this week in Mexico.  She was 41, had two
kids, = married to=20 producer Steve Lilywhite (U2).
She's best known for a hit Traci = Ulman had=20 many years ago, They Don't Know,
that she wrote, and had her own = hit here=20 in 1992 with Walking Down Madison.  
She's also know for her = X-mass=20 duet with the Pouges, Fairytail Of New York.
She's been a favorite = songwriter of mine for some years now and she will be
missed. =  If you=20 can find in the import shops her current album Tropical =
Brainstorm, grab=20 it, it's great.  It's not avabile here, I've never found out =
why.=20  This is must very very sad.
Andrea=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C06A14.11F60580-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 19 20:33:04 2000 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA05347 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:33:03 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.8b.15aa87 (4233) for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:32:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8b.15aa87.2771743a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:32:26 EST Subject: More on Kirsty/Pop Staples To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8b.15aa87.2771743a_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_8b.15aa87.2771743a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BBC.com has the full story on Kirsty MacColl's death. It made the front page of the site. Pop Staples Of The Staple Singers (Respect Yourself) has died today too. Not a good day for music:(. Andrea --part1_8b.15aa87.2771743a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BBC.com has the full story on Kirsty MacColl's death.  It made the front page
of the site.
Pop Staples Of The Staple Singers (Respect Yourself) has died today too.  Not
a good day for music:(.
Andrea --part1_8b.15aa87.2771743a_boundary-- >From emilyslist@hotmail.com Tue Dec 19 22:54:49 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f97.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.97]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA13832 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:54:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:54:18 -0800 Received: from 216.103.105.132 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:54:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.103.105.132] From: "emily *****" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: indie musicians & record companies Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:54:18 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2000 04:54:18.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[E91FA3F0:01C06A40] Reply-To: emilyslist@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN just a note for anyone interested in the rights of independent musicians & independent record companies: there's a "Future of Music manifesto" to sign & some interesting articles etc. at http://www.futureofmusic.com/ or http://www.futureofmusic.org/ E _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From jillpw@hotmail.com Wed Dec 20 11:04:50 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f7.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA05202 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:04:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:04:18 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:04:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Cc: sonichawk@hotmail.com Subject: Street Team Request Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:04:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2000 17:04:18.0159 (UTC) FILETIME=[E39397F0:01C06AA6] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN If you live near Harrisburg, PA and would be willing to distribute AV flyers promoting the show let me know. We have many Philly area street teamers, but no one who is really close to Harrisburg. Thanks, Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From howard@thewebpen.net Wed Dec 20 12:12:07 2000 Received: from inviteinternet.com (host.inviteinternet.com [209.239.40.56] (may be forged)) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA10371 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:12:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from DEXTER (maul.cravetechnology.com [166.93.94.93]) by inviteinternet.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id eBKIC6Z02970 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:12:06 -0500 Message-ID: <001701c06ab0$5acd5b90$070c0b0a@DEXTER> From: "Howard Semones" To: Subject: OT: Eddi Reader Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:11:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C06A75.A7BF1690" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: howard@thewebpen.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C06A75.A7BF1690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I apologize if I'm wrong, but I think I remember there being some Eddi = Reader fans on the list, so I thought I drop a bit o' news. She has a new album, Simple Soul, coming out on Jan. 9th on Compass = Records. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If the world isn't a cartoon, then why am I so animated? http://www.thewebpen.net http://www.improvinc.org \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C06A75.A7BF1690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I apologize if I'm wrong, but I think I remember there being some = Eddi=20 Reader fans on the list, so I thought I drop a bit o' news.
 
She has a new album, Simple Soul, coming out on Jan. 9th = on=20 Compass Records.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C06A75.A7BF1690-- >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Wed Dec 20 12:28:40 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f127.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.127]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA11967 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:28:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:28:09 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:28:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: Kirsty MacColl, Robert Buck Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:28:08 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2000 18:28:09.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A570110:01C06AB2] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I got this from another mailing list... Also, the lead guitarist from the 10,000 Maniacs, Robert Buck, died over the weekend after a long illness. (http://www.maniacs.com/) ***** KIRSTY MacCOLL DEAD AT FORTY-ONE *English singer/songwriter Kirsty MacColl killed in boating accident* By Andrew Dansby (December 20, 2000) http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/news/text/newsarticle.asp?NewsID=12563&ArtistID=3059 English singer/songwriter Kirsty MacColl was killed Monday in a boating accident while vacationing in Mexico; she was forty-one. MacColl was reportedly swimming with her two sons near the island of Cozumel, off the Yucatan peninsula when she was struck by a motorboat. "Kirsty MacColl was a bright, fun-loving person as well as a talented singer and writer who was loved by anybody and everybody she came into contact with," read a statement issued by MacColl's management. MacColl's manager Kevin Nixon wrote that he was "absolutely distraught" by the incident. According to the statement, MacColl was an accomplished scuba diver and was in an area designated exclusively for swimmers when she was struck by a speedboat. MacColl was born on Oct. 10, 1959, and was the daughter of U.K. folk-music legend Ewan MacColl who penned the classic "Dirty Old Town." MacColl joined her first band, the punk-minded Addix while just a teen, and eventually landed a label deal with Stiff Records when she was just sixteen years old. In 1979, MacColl wrote and recorded "They Don't Know," which failed make any major ripples, though five years later it cracked the Top Ten singles chart in the U.S. when covered by Tracy Ullman. MacColl made her own splash on the U.K. charts with "There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears Elvis" in 1981. A musician's musician, MacColl's solo career never took flight to stardom heights, but her list of admirers and collaborators within the music industry was vast. In 1985, MacColl married producer Steve Lillywhite. That year they collaborated on a cover of Billy Bragg's "A New England," which broke into the Top Ten on the U.K. singles charts. Lillywhite also produced MacColl's first two American releases, Kite (1989) and Electric Landlady (1991). Her solo work featured appearances by the Smiths' Johnny Marr, Marshall Crenshaw and Steve Nieve. Likewise, MacColl returned the favor, adding vocals to songs on albums by the Rolling Stones, the Talking Heads, Morrissey, John Wesley Harding, the Happy Mondays and Bragg. MacColl also made a high-profile appearance on "Fairytale of New York," a duet with Shane MacGowan on the Pogues' 1987 release, If I Should Fall From Grace with God. The song just missed the top slot on the U.K. singles chart, and is one of the most successful Christmas singles in Britain. MacColl's appearances in the Nineties were a little more limited. She and Lillywhite split in the middle of the decade, after collaborating on Titanic Days in 1993. The album was the beginning of a seven year drought for MacColl. But the past year was a busy one for the singer. In April MacColl released Tropical Brainstorm, which reflected her recent interest in Cuban music; she had also recorded a series for BBC Radio 2, "Kirsty MacColl's Cuba" which was to debut this week. The series includes a number of interviews with Cuban musicians, a number of whom appear on 1997's Buena Vista Social Club album. MacColl is survived by her two sons. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 20 13:05:04 2000 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA14648 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:05:03 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.3f.e40d0df (4073) for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:04:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3f.e40d0df.27725cb8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:04:24 EST Subject: Rob Buck To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3f.e40d0df.27725cb8_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_3f.e40d0df.27725cb8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Passed away Tuesday, I don't know the cause of death yet. There is a tribute to him at www.maniacs.com, the band's offical website. Andrea --part1_3f.e40d0df.27725cb8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Passed away Tuesday, I don't know the cause of death yet.  There is a tribute
to him at www.maniacs.com, the band's offical website.
Andrea --part1_3f.e40d0df.27725cb8_boundary-- >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Wed Dec 20 16:39:56 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f32.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA29785 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:39:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:39:25 -0800 Received: from 172.134.71.228 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 22:39:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.134.71.228] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: Kirsty Maccoll Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:39:25 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2000 22:39:25.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[B48F91A0:01C06AD5] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I vaguely remember something in an interview with Penn on World Cafe (or whatever that show is called), Michael mentioned specifically Tracy Ullman's album and THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT US. I think it was in reference to Brendan or someone who was involved in creating the *style* of that album. I didn't know who Kirsty Maccoll was, but what a horrible accident. I am glad Aimee is a homebody! No skiing a la Sonny Bono, or flying her own plane a la Kennedy or swimming! Thanks Larry Tucker!!! I got the package!! I owe you big time! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From jillpw@hotmail.com Wed Dec 20 19:29:48 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f302.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.180]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA26027 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:29:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:29:17 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 01:29:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT:Garry Jones from the UK Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:29:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2000 01:29:17.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F65A660:01C06AED] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Garry Jones from the UK, Please e-mail me your mailing address. I need to verify it so I can send you your CIQ single. Sorry to bother everyone with this. I don't have Garry's e-mail address. Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From mvfisk@gj.net Wed Dec 20 20:00:04 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA28371 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:00:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.68.48] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A48D34E6002A; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:01:49 -0700 Message-ID: <3A416394.34762558@gj.net> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:57:40 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: Merry Christmas Aimee/Michael/Superego Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Thank you very very much for the surprise CD.  It makes me feel very special, and I hope my small efforts with the street team provide some help in the great scheme of things.  It's nice to know you are appreciated, and I will continue to do "Whatever" I can to make the world aware of one of its greatest artists.
Michael >From 103125.1703@compuserve.com Thu Dec 21 11:05:34 2000 Received: from spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (ds-img-7.compuserve.com [149.174.206.153]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA00348 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:05:34 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id MAA01220 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:05:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:04:51 -0500 From: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> Subject: NYC Tix On Sale Now Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu To: Mannlist Message-ID: <200012211204_MC2-BF83-985F@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id LAA00349 Reply-To: 103125.1703@compuserve.com X-Sender: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Tickets for January 22 and 23 at Town Hall in New York already went on sale. Go to www.ticketmaster.com >From cellophane808@hotmail.com Thu Dec 21 11:13:56 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f129.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.129]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA01027 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:13:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 09:13:24 -0800 Received: from 64.154.102.152 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:13:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.102.152] From: "Kelly Stitzel" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: Golden Globes Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:13:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2000 17:13:24.0490 (UTC) FILETIME=[53A0D6A0:01C06B71] Reply-To: cellophane808@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Okay, I just checked www.TheGoldenGlobes.com to see what the nominees were. I'm very intrigued by the hodgepodge of nominees here. Granted, I haven't seen a lot of these movies yet because either I didn't have the time when they were in the theatre, or they aren't even in a theatre near me yet. I guess the biggest surprise for me is that Erin Brockovich got nominated. I heard from a lot of people that this movie really sucked. Guess the Hollywood Foreign Press didn't think so. Go check out the nominees at the address above and see what you think. Paul: Sex and the City got 4 nominations (Best Comedy series, Best Actress in a comedy for SJP, Best supporting actress for Kim Catrall and Cynthia Nixon). YAY!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From scottrob@bp.com Thu Dec 21 11:22:05 2000 Received: from eugw1.bp.com (eugw1.bp.com [194.203.80.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA01801 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:22:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by eugw1.bp.com; id RAA29467; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:21:28 GMT Received: from euhemx8(161.102.231.139) by eugw1 via smap (V2.1) id xma029048; Thu, 21 Dec 00 17:19:59 GMT Received: from 161.102.231.137 by euhemx8.hem.eu.bp.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:20:37 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Received: by euimsx1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:20:45 -0000 Message-ID: <3985736BE20ED011B58300805FEAF2080439B541@EUABZX4> From: "Scott, Robert (ROEVIN)" To: "Aimee List (E-mail)" Subject: Top 10 of 2000 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:20:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: scottrob@bp.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The old 'Top 10' of the year has been a bit quiet this year? Anyway here's mine. 1) Madonna - Music - She can still do no wrong (apart from 'American Pie') 2) U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind - As above 3) Aimee - Bachelor # 2 - 'nuff said? 4) The Smashing Pumpkins - MACHINA/The Machines Of God - They split, but we've still got Pondlife!!!!!! 5) a-ha - Minor Earth | Major Sky - A most welcome return for this pop trio 6) Pantera - Reinventing The Steel - Metal as it should be! 7) Magnolia O.S.T. - nuff said? 8) Iron Maiden - Brave New World - Welcome back Bruce 9) Jeff Buckley - Mystery White Boy - What a waste of talent! 10) Lenny Kravitz - Greatest Hits - He's too cool for his own good. >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Thu Dec 21 12:29:18 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f281.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.156]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA06660 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:29:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:28:43 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:28:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: Fisher, Nelly Furtado Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:28:43 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2000 18:28:43.0789 (UTC) FILETIME=[D95723D0:01C06B7B] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have some TV news for fans of FIsher and Nelly Furtado... Fisher (www.fishertheband.com) will be on Leno on 12/27. Nelly Furtado (www.nellyfurtado.com) will be the musical guest on SNL on 1/13/01 (host: Martin Sheen). ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Thu Dec 21 14:30:18 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f38.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA15232 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:30:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:29:47 -0800 Received: from 172.148.232.57 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:29:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.148.232.57] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: Golden Globes?Sex in City Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:29:47 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2000 20:29:47.0477 (UTC) FILETIME=[C2D5F850:01C06B8C] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Woo hoo!! Let's hope Catrall and Nixon don't split the vote. Kim deserves it all the way, baby!! Nwew episodes of OZ in January! Yippee! I have been listening to Neil Finn A LOT lately. I just can't rave enough about TRY WHISTLING THIS. Track 2, Jack (don't know the title) and She (He) Will Have Her Way are the best. *Sinner* is fabulous. Oh what am I saying, it's all incredible! >From: "Kelly Stitzel" Paul: Sex and the City got 4 >nominations (Best Comedy series, Best Actress in a comedy for SJP, Best >supporting actress for Kim Catrall and Cynthia Nixon). YAY!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Thu Dec 21 14:58:35 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f265.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.140]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA17871 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:58:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:58:04 -0800 Received: from 172.148.232.57 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:58:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.148.232.57] From: "Paul Barras" To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: Fisher, Nelly Furtado Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:58:04 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2000 20:58:04.0435 (UTC) FILETIME=[B64D3630:01C06B90] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Drat drat drat! Why can't Aimee score that SNL gig?!! I am going to have to bug Hausman if I speak to him today as planned. Do they even try to book her there?!! She wiull be on the East Coast in January. It's a perfect opportunity!! Silver lining: Nelly Furtado!! Woo hoo!! I hate SNL these days. It's so NOT funny most of the time (though it is improving as I have caught bits like the Billy Bob Thorton/Angelina Jolie skit), but the musical guests are sometimes quite interesting. >From: "Kristina Wilcox" >Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: OT: Fisher, Nelly Furtado >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:28:43 -0800 > >I have some TV news for fans of FIsher and Nelly Furtado... > >Fisher (www.fishertheband.com) will be on Leno on 12/27. > >Nelly Furtado (www.nellyfurtado.com) will be the musical guest on SNL on >1/13/01 (host: Martin Sheen). > > >~~ Kristina ~~ >Central Coast Mannlister >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From AimeeFan@aol.com Thu Dec 21 15:22:06 2000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA20044 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:22:05 -0600 (CST) From: AimeeFan@aol.com Received: from AimeeFan@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.48.f25ac8e (8233); Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:21:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <48.f25ac8e.2773ce57@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:21:27 EST Subject: Merry Christmas from Infinitely Blue To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 Reply-To: AimeeFan@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Click here to check out the newest ALL FREE, ALL AIMEE issue! Thanks for a great year. Click away, click away, click away all! de zout >From Xmarty@aol.com Thu Dec 21 17:22:56 2000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA29142 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:22:54 -0600 (CST) From: Xmarty@aol.com Received: from Xmarty@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.c9.ba542b1 (9639) for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:22:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:22:04 EST Subject: OT: Kirsty McColl To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 127 Reply-To: Xmarty@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Does anyone recall the name of the Kirsty McColl song which got some airplay around 1990? I can't recall how it went, but I remember it was very Aimeeesque (?) with some catchy hooks. It was a great folk/pop tune, but I'll be darned if I could remember the song or title. >From speener-d@home.com Thu Dec 21 17:30:24 2000 Received: from mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (ha2.rdc2.pa.home.com [24.12.106.195]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA29685 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:30:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.40.42.88] by mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001221233018.HENV9109.mail.rdc2.pa.home.com@[24.40.42.88]> for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:30:18 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:30:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <02c301c067a0$cbc53060$85404f0c@hfpyz> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3060268217_189360_MIME_Part" Reply-To: speener-d@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3060268217_189360_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit And over on the Pennlist - we're complaining that there isn't enough Michael. :) C'mon - Aimee's having wondeful success and she's married to Michael. Would you not expect her to try and open the masses up to his music. I hate to be totally selfish, but if it weren't for Aimee's recent success, MP wouldn't be touring. (Oh yeah - and I believe it was Michael that introduced PT Anderson to Aimee, so if it weren't for MP, no Magnolia soundtrack?) sl -- They were digging a new foundation in manhattan and they discovered a slave cemetery there may their souls rest easy now that lynching is frowned upon and we've moved onto the electric chair. - ani difranco Let's also remember that if Michael was not playing with Aimee she would have a warm up band during which time she would not even be on stage. With AV she's singing background and playing instruments. It all works out the same pretty much. I don't know what I've disliked most the past couple weeks on here. Bush-bashing, USA-Bashing or Michael bashing. I think it all sucks! --MS_Mac_OE_3060268217_189360_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) And over on the Pennlist - we're complaining that there isn't enough Michae= l. :)

C'mon - Aimee's having wondeful success and she's married to Michael.  = ;Would you not expect her to try and open the masses up to his music.  = I hate to be totally selfish, but if it weren't for Aimee's recent success, = MP wouldn't be touring. (Oh yeah - and I believe it was Michael that introdu= ced PT Anderson to Aimee, so if it weren't for MP, no Magnolia soundtrack?)<= BR>
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They were digging a new foundation in manhattan
and they discovered a slave cemetery there
may their souls rest easy now that lynching is frowned upon
and we've moved onto the electric chair. - ani difranco


Let's also remember that if Michael was not playing with Aimee she would ha= ve a warm up band during which time she would not even be on stage. With AV = she's singing background and playing instruments. It all works out the same = pretty much.

I don't know what I've disliked most the past couple weeks on = here. Bush-bashing, USA-Bashing or Michael bashing. I think it all sucks! --MS_Mac_OE_3060268217_189360_MIME_Part-- >From missy@honeybeepub.com Thu Dec 21 18:14:03 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA02882 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:14:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA79964; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:13:57 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:15:31 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: Kirsty McColl From: Missy Roback To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN perhaps "walking down madison?" never heard it, but it think it was a hit of sorts. > Does anyone recall the name of the Kirsty McColl song which got some airplay > around 1990? I can't recall how it went, but I remember it was very > Aimeeesque (?) with some catchy hooks. It was a great folk/pop tune, but > I'll be darned if I could remember the song or title. > > >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 21 18:22:43 2000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA09557 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:22:42 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.16.67dadf8 (3847); Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:22:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <16.67dadf8.2773f8ac@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:22:04 EST Subject: Re: OT: Kirsty McColl To: Xmarty@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-21 18:23:17 EST, Xmarty@aol.com writes: > Does anyone recall the name of the Kirsty McColl song which got some airplay > > around 1990? I can't recall how it went, but I remember it was very > Aimeeesque (?) with some catchy hooks. It was a great folk/pop tune, but > I'll be darned if I could remember the song or title. It could be End Of A Perfect Day or Innocence, both from Kirsty's 1990 Kite. Andrea >From NickN003@aol.com Thu Dec 21 20:32:48 2000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA18511 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:32:47 -0600 (CST) From: NickN003@aol.com Received: from NickN003@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.60.a030972 (1759) for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:32:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <60.a030972.27741726@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:32:06 EST Subject: Nelly Furtado vs. Aimee Mann To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_60.a030972.27741726_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Reply-To: NickN003@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_60.a030972.27741726_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alright everyone, listen up, I was very much offended by someone dissing Nelly Furtado. I am a very big Aimee Mann fan and I am also a fan of Nelly Furtado. I just want to say that Nelly Furtado is just as qualified as Aimee Mann to be on SNL. Even though Aimee Mann deserves to be on more, you need to understand that Nelly Furtado also has a cool sense of music (just like Aimee). So, Give Nelly Furtado a Chance Nick --part1_60.a030972.27741726_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alright everyone, listen up,
    
    I was very much offended by someone dissing Nelly Furtado.  I am a very
big Aimee Mann fan and I am also a fan of Nelly Furtado.  I just want to say
that Nelly Furtado is just as qualified as Aimee Mann to be on SNL.  Even
though Aimee Mann deserves to be on more, you need to understand that Nelly
Furtado also has a cool sense of music (just like Aimee).  

    So, Give Nelly Furtado a Chance

Nick --part1_60.a030972.27741726_boundary-- >From ldphill@earthlink.net Thu Dec 21 21:26:31 2000 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA21629 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:26:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (2Cust32.tnt10.grapevine.tx.da.uu.net [63.11.201.96]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA09681; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:26:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002401c06bc8$2c2494c0$60c90b3f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: <60.a030972.27741726@aol.com> Subject: We like Aimee. We like Nelly. Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:35:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C06B95.DF157B40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C06B95.DF157B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Holdup holdup holdup...WAS there any dissing of Nelly Furtado? All I've = heard about her on this list, and elsewhere, is good, and I'm DEFINITELY = going to check out her cd just based on all the good word-of-mouth = (well, it's on my list with about 40 other "to-buy" cds...Trust me, I = think MP gets bashed more than Ms. Furtado, and he doesn't deserve it = either! But I'll wholeheartedly second Paul's comment re: SNL not being funny. = Though it still has its moments (anyone catch the "Great Frog Society" = sketch? or the 'fanatic' spoof PTA wrote?) The musical guests lately = have been great, and the only thing you can really blame them for is the = patented SNL Freaky-Ass-Dance-During-the-Drum Solo (I've seen this = several times...notably Fiona Apple and Thom Yorke of Radiohead...and = trust me, it's creepy).=20 Aimee should be on SNL. Nelly (Furtado, not Mr. Country Grammar) should = be on SNL. And Michael Penn should be on SNL, though I'm probably = overstepping my bounds there.=20 Love...is...the answer... Lauren=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: NickN003@aol.com=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:32 PM Subject: Nelly Furtado vs. Aimee Mann Alright everyone, listen up,=20 =20 I was very much offended by someone dissing Nelly Furtado. I am a = very=20 big Aimee Mann fan and I am also a fan of Nelly Furtado. I just want = to say=20 that Nelly Furtado is just as qualified as Aimee Mann to be on SNL. = Even=20 though Aimee Mann deserves to be on more, you need to understand that = Nelly=20 Furtado also has a cool sense of music (just like Aimee). =20 So, Give Nelly Furtado a Chance=20 Nick=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C06B95.DF157B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Holdup holdup holdup...WAS there any = dissing of=20 Nelly Furtado? All I've heard about her on this list, and = elsewhere, is=20 good, and I'm DEFINITELY going to check out her cd just = based on=20 all the good word-of-mouth (well, it's on my list with about 40 other = "to-buy"=20 cds...Trust me, I think MP gets bashed more than Ms. Furtado, and he = doesn't=20 deserve it either! <g>
 
But I'll wholeheartedly second Paul's = comment re:=20 SNL not being funny. Though it still has its moments (anyone catch the = "Great=20 Frog Society" sketch? or the 'fanatic' spoof PTA wrote?) The musical = guests=20 lately have been great, and the only thing you can really blame them for = is the=20 patented SNL Freaky-Ass-Dance-During-the-Drum Solo (I've seen this = several=20 times...notably Fiona Apple and Thom Yorke of Radiohead...and trust me, = it's=20 creepy).
 
Aimee should be on SNL. Nelly (Furtado, = not Mr.=20 Country Grammar) should be on SNL. And Michael Penn should be on SNL, = though I'm=20 probably overstepping my bounds there.
 
Love...is...the answer...
 
Lauren
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 NickN003@aol.com=20
Sent: Thursday, December 21, = 2000 8:32=20 PM
Subject: Nelly Furtado vs. = Aimee=20 Mann

Alright everyone, listen up,
    =20
    I was very much offended by someone = dissing Nelly=20 Furtado.  I am a very
big Aimee Mann fan and I am also a fan = of Nelly=20 Furtado.  I just want to say
that Nelly Furtado is just as = qualified=20 as Aimee Mann to be on SNL.  Even
though Aimee Mann deserves = to be on=20 more, you need to understand that Nelly
Furtado also has a cool = sense of=20 music (just like Aimee).  

    So, = Give Nelly=20 Furtado a Chance

Nick = ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C06B95.DF157B40-- >From howard@thewebpen.net Thu Dec 21 23:08:18 2000 Received: from dnvrpop3.dnvr.uswest.net (dnvrpop3.dnvr.uswest.net [206.196.128.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id XAA24775 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:08:17 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 26831 invoked by uid 0); 22 Dec 2000 05:08:08 -0000 Received: from qqdialup196.dnvr.uswest.net (HELO ?63.225.126.196?) (63.225.126.196) by dnvrpop3.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2000 05:08:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:08:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Howard Semones" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Subject: Re: OT: Kirsty McColl In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3060281286_2971555_MIME_Part" Reply-To: howard@thewebpen.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3060281286_2971555_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit It was "Walking Down Madison". I remember because it came out the same time as Voice Of The Beehive's "Monsters & Angels". I went all over looking for the Kirsty song. She also did a lot of background vocal work for Talking Heads. -- /////////////////////////////////////////////// You talk of genius I feel an undertow Which head of yours is bragging now? One made of lettuce Is smarter than you both -Tracy Bonham http://www.thewebpen.net http://www.improvinc.org \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ From: Missy Roback Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:15:31 -0800 To: , Subject: Re: OT: Kirsty McColl perhaps "walking down madison?" never heard it, but it think it was a hit of sorts. > Does anyone recall the name of the Kirsty McColl song which got some airplay > around 1990? I can't recall how it went, but I remember it was very > Aimeeesque (?) with some catchy hooks. It was a great folk/pop tune, but > I'll be darned if I could remember the song or title. > > --MS_Mac_OE_3060281286_2971555_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: OT: Kirsty McColl It was "Walking Down Madison".  I remember because it came o= ut the same time as Voice Of The Beehive's "Monsters & Angels"= .  I went all over looking for the Kirsty song.  She also did a lo= t of background vocal work for Talking Heads.

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You talk of genius
I feel an undertow
Which head of yours is bragging now?
One made of lettuce
Is smarter than you both
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From: Missy Roback <missy@honeybeepub.com>
Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:15:31 -0800
To: <Xmarty@aol.com>, <mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: OT: Kirsty McColl


perhaps "walking down madison?" never heard it, b= ut it think it was a hit of
sorts.

> Does anyone recall the name of the Kirsty McColl song which got some a= irplay
> around 1990?  I can't recall how it went, but I remember it was v= ery
> Aimeeesque (?) with some catchy hooks.  It was a great folk/pop t= une, but
> I'll be darned if I could remember the song or title.
>
>


--MS_Mac_OE_3060281286_2971555_MIME_Part-- >From happytown102@hotmail.com Thu Dec 21 23:11:04 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f156.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.156]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA24838 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:11:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:10:33 -0800 Received: from 32.100.64.131 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 05:10:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [32.100.64.131] From: "Frank Gargione" To: bigsean62@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee's House of Blues show Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:10:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2000 05:10:33.0226 (UTC) FILETIME=[82C0E6A0:01C06BD5] Reply-To: happytown102@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN You might want to alert >Michael Hausman about the fact that the Borders in Santa Monica has >that wretched Hip-O "Ultimate Collection" on one of its listening posts, >but not "Bachelor #2". I complained to one of the people there, but was >told it wasn't their decision...I had to talk with their head of music, >who wasn't in at the time. Maybe Michael can call and chew them out. For the love of god, Borders doesn't decide what gets put in those listening tiers and listening stations. Record companies, distributors and promoters pay Borders Corporate to feature a CD somewhere; and we do. UC is in listening stations in all Borders across the country because whoever is in charge of promoting paid Borders to have us put them up and discount it. They are also responsible for the promotional copies that each Borders uses. The only display space in Borders that is FREE and NATIONAL are the Top 50 CDs. They get changed weekly and are always on sale. They aren't based onBillboard but on what Borders is selling. B#2 was featured from its release until September. UC hasn't not sold as wel, however. -Frank _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From happytown102@hotmail.com Thu Dec 21 23:36:14 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f110.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA25809 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:36:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:35:43 -0800 Received: from 32.100.64.131 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 05:35:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [32.100.64.131] From: "Frank Gargione" To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee in London. Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:35:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2000 05:35:43.0567 (UTC) FILETIME=[06FCA5F0:01C06BD9] Reply-To: happytown102@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN If anybody's looking for that UK "Save Me" single in the U.S., Border's does carry it. It's an import and it's $9.99. It would be in the singles section, though, and not in Aimee's spot in the pop section. Just thought I'd let you know, I see it like everyday. -Frank >From: Lisa Letostak >Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Re: Aimee in London. >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:08:14 -0800 (PST) > > > thanks ian! I just bought the save me single for 6.35 pounds (about $9) >including shipping > > From: Ian F. Braidwood. >To: Mannlist >Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:45 PM >Subject: Aimee in London. > > >Howdy, > >Just to say that I took a trip into London the other day and HMV had Coming >Up Close, the Til Tuesday retrospective at £6.99. > >They had stock of the Save Me single and if you want to ignore Aimee's >wishes, the Ultimate Collection; though you'll have to stump up about £20 >for that. > >(-: Ian :-) > >I count myself in nothing else so happy >As in a soul remembering my good friends >- Richard II by William Shakespeare > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From happytown102@hotmail.com Fri Dec 22 00:03:13 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f256.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.134]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA26910 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:03:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:02:35 -0800 Received: from 32.100.64.131 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 06:02:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [32.100.64.131] From: "Frank Gargione" To: NickN003@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Nelly Furtado vs. Aimee Mann Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 01:02:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2000 06:02:35.0462 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7C04E60:01C06BDC] Reply-To: happytown102@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Nelly Furtado rocks; not only is her album self-written and produced (amazing seeing as that she's so young and that she's getting airplay on hip-pop Pink/ Briney Spears-type stations), but it's just totally fun music. She's really accessible: it's the kind of CD that both Aimee Mann fans and Backstreet Boys fans can enjoy. And, it looks like it's going to be a huge hit. You should check it out before you can't escape it! -Frank >From: NickN003@aol.com >Reply-To: NickN003@aol.com >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Nelly Furtado vs. Aimee Mann >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:32:06 EST > >Alright everyone, listen up, > > I was very much offended by someone dissing Nelly Furtado. I am a >very >big Aimee Mann fan and I am also a fan of Nelly Furtado. I just want to >say >that Nelly Furtado is just as qualified as Aimee Mann to be on SNL. Even >though Aimee Mann deserves to be on more, you need to understand that Nelly >Furtado also has a cool sense of music (just like Aimee). > > So, Give Nelly Furtado a Chance > >Nick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Fri Dec 22 03:56:58 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f206.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.206]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id DAA03155 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 03:56:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 01:56:27 -0800 Received: from 172.147.191.98 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:56:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.147.191.98] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: We like Aimee. We like Nelly. Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:56:27 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2000 09:56:27.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[7385F270:01C06BFD] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN who's been dissing Nelly?!! Say it to my face! I might add that not only is she incredibly talented, but you could fry an egg on her!! >From: "Lauren Phillips" > >Holdup holdup holdup...WAS there any dissing of Nelly Furtado? All I've >heard about her on this list, and elsewhere, is good, and I'm DEFINITELY >going to check out her cd just based on all the good word-of-mouth (well, >it's on my list with about 40 other "to-buy" cds...Trust me, I think MP >gets bashed more than Ms. Furtado, and he doesn't deserve it either! > >= _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Fri Dec 22 11:10:20 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f11.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA02818 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 11:10:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:09:48 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:09:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: Nelly Furtado Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:09:48 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2000 17:09:48.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD954DD0:01C06C39] Reply-To: kristina_wilcox@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >Drat drat drat! Why can't Aimee score that SNL gig?!! Probably because AM doesn't have the $$ of Dreamworks backing her at every step. Recently there was a LA Times article about NF that said how "Woah, Nelly!" had sold about 15K copies, but that didn't bother Dreamworks because they know she's got big things ahead of her. Sheesh, if only every (budding) artist had that kind of support... >Silver lining: Nelly Furtado!! Woo hoo!! I hate SNL these days. It's so >NOT funny most of the time I *really* like the new Weekend Update format. Otherwise, it's been pretty lame. The "Great Frog Society" skit was great though. "This is the end..." :-) ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From Xmarty@aol.com Fri Dec 22 16:37:44 2000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA16844 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:37:43 -0600 (CST) From: Xmarty@aol.com Received: from Xmarty@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.72.642ce2b (4396) for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:37:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <72.642ce2b.27753193@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:37:07 EST Subject: WSJ - Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 127 Reply-To: Xmarty@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The Wall Street Journal listed the Magnolia soundtrack as 1 of the 4 top rock cds of the year, based upon a poll the article writer conducted with heads of several music labels, industry insiders and people at several radio stations around the country. The brief review described the cd as "a tour-de-force of some of the rawest, moodiest tracks of the year". The writer then advises to "Hit stop after track 9" since the final four songs are by other artists. "Driving Sideways" was listed as the best song on the cd. >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Fri Dec 22 18:11:52 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f272.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.147]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA23187 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:11:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:11:21 -0800 Received: from 152.163.207.206 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 00:11:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.207.206] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: more leaks to the press needed Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 15:11:21 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2000 00:11:21.0204 (UTC) FILETIME=[E0ED7B40:01C06C74] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN As many of you know, Aimee's management has been sending out special Xmas CDs to fans as well. She really needs to get better press. Look at the attention other artist get for doing the same thing: R.E.M. AND METALLICA THANK FANS WITH FAN CLUB-ONLY RELEASES Check out what R.E.M. and Metallica have in store for their fan club members this holiday season... FULL STORY: http://p04.com/t.d?dEXgDuPe=/cdnow.com/allstararticle/fid=241197 Also, check out the Golden Globe nominations. Not a Disney picture to be found in the music category! It's not fair. This could have been Aimee's year to win it. Sean, how good was Bjork in DANCER and how good is the song?? Paul Warming up to Travis and David Gray _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From howard@thewebpen.net Fri Dec 22 18:21:51 2000 Received: from dnvrpop5.dnvr.uswest.net (dnvrpop5.dnvr.uswest.net [206.196.128.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id SAA27644 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:21:49 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 79355 invoked by uid 0); 23 Dec 2000 00:21:47 -0000 Received: from mdialup67.dnvr.uswest.net (HELO ?209.180.243.67?) (209.180.243.67) by dnvrpop5.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2000 00:21:47 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:21:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Howard Semones" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Subject: Re: more leaks to the press needed In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3060350506_1823700_MIME_Part" Reply-To: howard@thewebpen.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3060350506_1823700_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Also, check out the Golden Globe nominations. Not a Disney picture to be found in the music category! Paul, Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the song by Sting, "My Funny Friend And Me" is from Disney's The Emperor's New Groove. Which, by the way, is hilarious!!! And not typical Disney at all. More reminiscent of the old Warner Brothers' cartoons. (Oh, the Travis album IS really good) -- /////////////////////////////////////////////// They send the Heart Police To put you under Cardiac arrest -The Buggles http://www.thewebpen.net http://www.improvinc.org \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ --MS_Mac_OE_3060350506_1823700_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: more leaks to the press needed
Also, check out the Golden Globe nominations.  Not a Disne= y picture to be
   found in the music category!  

Paul,

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the song by Sting, "My Funny Fr= iend And Me" is from
Disney's The Emperor's New Groove.   Which, by the way, is= hilarious!!!  And not typical Disney at all.  More reminiscent of= the old Warner Brothers' cartoons.

(Oh, the Travis album IS really good)

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--MS_Mac_OE_3060350506_1823700_MIME_Part-- >From UFOTUFO101@aol.com Fri Dec 22 18:43:34 2000 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA02734 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:43:34 -0600 (CST) From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Received: from UFOTUFO101@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.36.fc18d06 (3891) for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:43:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36.fc18d06.27754f14@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:43:00 EST Subject: Re: WSJ - Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-22 17:43:37 EST, Xmarty@aol.com writes: this doesn't surprise me at all. my father works for the wall street journal and he told me that their main movie reviewer loved magnolia (he said it's rare for their movie reviewer to love anything he sees) so maybe this possibly has something to do with it. nevertheless, the movie and the soundtrack has done quite well by them. g << The Wall Street Journal listed the Magnolia soundtrack as 1 of the 4 top rock cds of the year, based upon a poll the article writer conducted with heads of several music labels, industry insiders and people at several radio stations around the country. The brief review described the cd as "a tour-de-force of some of the rawest, moodiest tracks of the year". The writer then advises to "Hit stop after track 9" since the final four songs are by other artists. "Driving Sideways" was listed as the best song on the cd. >> >From HumbleKat@email.msn.com Fri Dec 22 21:13:15 2000 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.30]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA08688 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 21:13:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from l0x2s0 - 63.27.169.252 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:12:37 -0800 Message-ID: <000301c06c8d$c8c1b360$fca91b3f@l0x2s0> From: "HumbleKat" To: "beachbum13" , "Mannlist" References: <02c301c067a0$cbc53060$85404f0c@hfpyz> Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:13:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01C0682B.17135800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Reply-To: HumbleKat@email.msn.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C0682B.17135800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable AMEN. As a transplant from the Pennlist, a long-time fan of Michael and = Patrick, and probably the only person left in the USA who still owns a = March t-shirt (band members notwithstanding...), some of the commentary = about only wanting to see Aimee solo has left me with a bad taste in my = mouth for this list when I do have the time to read it. Yes, you're = entitled to your opinion, and for way too many messages I've kept my = mouth shut about my opinions of your opinions. =20 Michael has more than just a few great tunes, and I find him to be an = inspiration to my poetry. Thanks to people like Paul Barras, I've = started gaining a real appreciation for Aimee's talents as well. = Michael is first in my heart, but Aimee is running a very close second. = Yup, it would be nice to see Michael solo, but frankly after a drought = of not seeing him in concert for ten years I'll take him any way I can = get him (shut up, Paul...). I do wish they'd run a longer show = altogether, I'd like to see more of both of them. I encourage those Aimee fans out there who only want to see Aimee solo = to actually pick up MP's discs and pop them into your player and listen = to them at least three times through before making any decisions about = not wanting to see him. I've found that it actually takes some time = before his music 'pulls you so you must submit like ant to = honeydew'...It's not like he's a Backstreet Boy whose music sounds great = the first time but then irritates you when you've heard it for the = eight-billionth time on the radio. His music ages like fine wine...a = little sharp on first listen and mellows beautifully with each play. I don't like reading through mailing lists when the messages actually = make me angry. If the tone doesn't change soon, I'll be slipping back = to being a membership of just the Pennlist. Life's too short (and my = email box too full) to voluntarily deal with stuff like this. And I'll continue to wear my March t-shirt to each AV show I attend. = Letting all the exclusively-Aimee-centrics know that some of us are = absolutely thrilled beyond belief that Michael is up there too. And I = hope it irritates you so much that you give up your front row seats to = those of us who are there to actually see the show that Aimee and = Michael have chosen to put on for us. As far as I'm concerned, if you = don't want to see Michael up on stage with Aimee, STAY HOME!!! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: beachbum13=20 To: Mannlist ; fann_of_mann@yahoo.com=20 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 3:43 PM Subject: Cutting Us some slack! :) Let's also remember that if Michael was not playing with Aimee she = would have a warm up band during which time she would not even be on = stage. With AV she's singing background and playing instruments. It all = works out the same pretty much. I don't know what I've disliked most the past couple weeks on here. = Bush-bashing, USA-Bashing or Michael bashing. I think it all sucks! "There was nothing to say, but you said something anyway." Aimee Mann ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C0682B.17135800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
AMEN.
 
As a transplant from the Pennlist, a = long-time fan=20 of Michael and Patrick, and probably the only person left in the USA who = still=20 owns a March t-shirt (band members notwithstanding...), some of the = commentary=20 about only wanting to see Aimee solo has left me with a bad taste in my = mouth=20 for this list when I do have the time to read it.  Yes, you're = entitled to=20 your opinion, and for way too many messages I've kept my mouth shut = about my=20 opinions of your opinions. 
 
Michael has more than just a few = great tunes,=20 and I find him to be an inspiration to my poetry.  Thanks to people = like=20 Paul Barras, I've started gaining a real appreciation for Aimee's = talents as=20 well.  Michael is first in my heart, but Aimee is running a very = close=20 second.  Yup, it would be nice to see Michael solo, but frankly = after a=20 drought of not seeing him in concert for ten years I'll take him any way = I can=20 get him (shut up, Paul...).  I do wish they'd run a longer show = altogether,=20 I'd like to see more of both of them.
 
I encourage those Aimee fans out = there who=20 only want to see Aimee solo to actually pick up MP's discs and pop them = into=20 your player and listen to them at least three times through before = making any=20 decisions about not wanting to see him.  I've found that it = actually takes=20 some time before his music 'pulls you so you must submit like ant to=20 honeydew'...It's not like he's a Backstreet Boy whose music sounds great = the=20 first time but then irritates you when you've heard it for the = eight-billionth=20 time on the radio.  His music ages like fine wine...a little sharp = on first=20 listen and mellows beautifully with each play.
 
I don't like reading through mailing=20 lists when the messages actually make me angry.  If the tone = doesn't=20 change soon, I'll be slipping back to being a membership of just the=20 Pennlist.  Life's too short (and my email box too full) to = voluntarily deal=20 with stuff like this.
 
And I'll continue to wear my March = t-shirt to each=20 AV show I attend.  Letting all the exclusively-Aimee-centrics = know=20 that some of us are absolutely thrilled beyond belief that Michael is up = there=20 too.  And I hope it irritates = you so much=20 that you give up your front row seats to those of us who are there to = actually=20 see the show that Aimee and Michael have chosen to put on for = us.  As=20 far as I'm concerned, if you don't want to see Michael up on stage with = Aimee,=20 STAY HOME!!!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 beachbum13
To: Mannlist ; fann_of_mann@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 16, = 2000 3:43=20 PM
Subject: Cutting Us some slack! = :)

Let's also remember that if Michael was not playing with Aimee = she would=20 have a warm up band during which time she would not even be on stage. = With AV=20 she's singing background and playing instruments. It all works out the = same=20 pretty much.
 
I don't know what I've disliked most the past couple weeks on = here.=20 Bush-bashing, USA-Bashing or Michael bashing. I think it all = sucks!
 
"There was nothing to say, but you said something anyway."
Aimee Mann
------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C0682B.17135800-- >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Sat Dec 23 01:44:17 2000 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id BAA18956 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 01:44:17 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.7d.eabd69a (4535) for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 02:43:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7d.eabd69a.2775b1b1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 02:43:45 EST Subject: Re: We like Aimee. We like Nelly. To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 126 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN SNL would be OK, but I'd still rather see Aimee featured on Sessions at West 54th. As far as SNL, the best recently has been their parodies of George Dubya and Al Bore. Pretty funny stuff. Steve In a message dated 12/21/00 7:27:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, ldphill@earthlink.net writes: << Aimee should be on SNL. >> >From diri.gini@virgin.net Sat Dec 23 04:21:22 2000 Received: from mta2-svc.virgin.net (mta2-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id EAA27548 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 04:21:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.253.37.61]) by mta2-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001223102040.LZTS16025.mta2-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:20:40 +0000 Message-ID: <002701c06cca$31161be0$3d25fd3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: "Mannlist" References: <02c301c067a0$cbc53060$85404f0c@hfpyz> <000301c06c8d$c8c1b360$fca91b3f@l0x2s0> Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:20:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello everyone, As unintended instigator of this thread, I suppose I'd better take a bit of responsibility for it. > As a transplant from the Pennlist, a long-time fan > of Michael and Patrick...some of the commentary > about only wanting to see Aimee solo has left me > with a bad taste in my mouth... I'm sorry to read this Humblekat. I made no derisory remark about Michael, in fact I was impressed; Michael didn't embarrass himself on stage, which being next to Aimee, was an achievement. However, Michael hasn't got the same name that Aimee has in England, because he simply hasn't done the work here. If he wants equal billing here, then perhaps he should spend some time making a name for himself; not rely on being Aimee's husband and Sean's brother. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they came and I did enjoy the show; but ten or so completely new songs was a bit much to take in one sitting. I think Michael could've stepped back a little, because smaller pills are easier to swallow. > I encourage those Aimee fans out there who only > want to see Aimee solo to actually pick up MP's > discs and pop them into your player and listen to > them at least three times through before making > any decisions about not wanting to see him. I'm sorry Humblekat, but you're not being objective. The ultimate test of whether I want to see Michael live is seeing him and I have. The problem was that there was simply too much unfamiliar material; even established bands like U2 only make an audience listen to a couple of new tracks. > I don't like reading through mailing lists when the > messages actually make me angry. If the tone > doesn't change soon, I'll be slipping back to being > a membership of just the Pennlist. Life's too short... I've never known a mailing list, which doesn't spend a half its time in one form of argument or another. You can't expect journalistic standards of pertinence and occasionally some crass twat is bound kick something off. What I do is simply ignore what isn't relevant to me, which usually means much material that is on topic. While getting to sing the National Anthem at the Superbowl may be a great honour in the USA, it means nothing to the rest of us. Not that I'd dream of stopping any of it, the simple truth is you have to cut people some slack. Regards, (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From ldphill@earthlink.net Sat Dec 23 10:26:19 2000 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA15418 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:26:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (1Cust234.tnt5.grapevine.tx.da.uu.net [63.26.166.234]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA29676; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:26:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001b01c06cfe$589f45e0$eaa61a3f@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: , "Mannlist" References: <02c301c067a0$cbc53060$85404f0c@hfpyz> <000301c06c8d$c8c1b360$fca91b3f@l0x2s0> <002701c06cca$31161be0$3d25fd3e@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:34:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > However, Michael hasn't got the same name that Aimee has in England, because > he simply hasn't done the work here. If he wants equal billing here, then > perhaps he should spend some time making a name for himself; not rely on > being Aimee's husband and Sean's brother. Perhaps this could be looked upon as yet ANOTHER way Michael's been fucked around by the record company...no promotion overseas equals no impetus to tour there; thus, no one knows who the hell Michael Penn is. At the London show, the Penn fans I spoke to had either been turned on to his music by American friends or had spent some time in the U.S. As far as I could tell, MP4 never got release proper anywhere other than U.S., and I 'm guessing Resigned got the same. > > I encourage those Aimee fans out there who only > > want to see Aimee solo to actually pick up MP's > > discs and pop them into your player and listen to > > them at least three times through before making > > any decisions about not wanting to see him. > I'm sorry Humblekat, but you're not being objective. The ultimate test of > whether I want to see Michael live is seeing him and I have. The problem was > that there was simply too much unfamiliar material; even established bands > like U2 only make an audience listen to a couple of new tracks. Both points here seem pretty reasonable - I can understand not wanting to see someone new play live the first go-round, and Michael's discs definitely take some time to "get." IMO MP on disc is great, MP live is even better...and because half his recordings are out-of-print, some people may end up having to hear him live the first time. Lauren >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sat Dec 23 11:05:26 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f115.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.115]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA17877 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:05:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 09:04:55 -0800 Received: from 63.31.22.139 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 17:04:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.31.22.139] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: diri.gini@virgin.net Cc: HumbleKat@email.msn.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:04:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2000 17:04:55.0985 (UTC) FILETIME=[795CA210:01C06D02] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey Ian, You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but a couple of things you said don't make sense to me. Ian F. Braidwood Wrote: >If he wants equal billing here, then perhaps he should spend some time > >making a name for himself; How do you suggest he do that? Its not Michael's fault that his songs aren't played on the radio. It seems to me that touring *IS* the way for him to get exposure to his music in England and "make a name for himself". >not rely on being Aimee's husband and Sean's brother. What does that mean? He doesn't "rely" on being Aimee's husband/Sean's brother. It probably annoys him that the press often ignore his music and keep referring to him that way. >The problem was that there was simply too much unfamiliar material; >even >established bands like U2 only make an audience listen to a couple >of new >tracks. Michael performed a good selection of his songs. If you were an MP fan you would have had his albums and would have been familiar with the songs. Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Sat Dec 23 14:12:57 2000 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA24877 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:12:56 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.69.edea9e8 (4545) for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:12:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <69.edea9e8.27766124@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:12:20 EST Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 126 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN "I was impressed; Michael didn't embarrass himself on stage, which being next to Aimee, was an achievement." I think that Michael Penn has NOTHING to apologize for when he shares the stage with Aimee at the AV shows. He's an excellent song writer and singer, as is Aimee. I've seen 3 AV shows this year and I have yet to ask for my money back. I have to admit that I was not too familiar with Michael before he married Aimee (other than "No Myth-" a truly great pop song), and I thank Aimee for bringing him to my attention. I would be willing to bet that if Aimee were to take some of Michael's songs and sing them as if she had written them, the same people that are slamming Michael now, would rave about how great these "Aimee" songs are. Not only are the AV shows great, but you can see that Aimee and Michael are really having fun doing them! Steve >From SonicVI@aol.com Sat Dec 23 15:41:19 2000 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA28194 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:41:19 -0600 (CST) From: SonicVI@aol.com Received: from SonicVI@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.88.3bc37d (4511) for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:40:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <88.3bc37d.277675d3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:40:35 EST Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 109 Reply-To: SonicVI@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/23/00 2:13:37 PM CST, Brwnshoe@aol.com writes: > I would be willing to bet that if Aimee were to take some of Michael's songs > and sing them as if she had written them, the same people that are slamming > Michael now, would rave about how great these "Aimee" songs are. > I agree completely, especially "Beautiful" from MP4. I can totally hear Aimee singing that one. "...you've run out of holy water, dude." Now that's a great line! Daniel. >From diri.gini@virgin.net Sat Dec 23 16:06:01 2000 Received: from mta7-svc.virgin.net (mta7-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA29517 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:06:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.68.51]) by mta7-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP id <20001223220558.QECG12184.mta7-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:05:58 +0000 Message-ID: <004101c06d2c$9f91e060$3344fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:05:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello, Thank you Lauren for your balanced response. It's difficult for me to imagine anyone being messed around more than Aimee has, but if you say so then I believe it. Poor sod. Jill and Steve, It's very cold here in England at the moment, so I shall endeavour to appreciate the heat of your responses. Try to understand that I'm saying that the London and other shows were a special case. I'm quite willing to accept that the Acoustic Vaudeville is an excellent idea for the USA and I actually wanted to hear Michael, because I was curious to see who Aimee had chosen as her husband. I also trusted Aimee enough to know that she wouldn't foist rubbish on me. However it was too much new material at once. Had there been adequate stock after the show, I'd have gone home with a copy of MP4, but there wasn't so I lucked out. I am not bashing Michael or anyone else and I hope Michael has all the success he can live with. > You are obviously entitled to your opinion... Thank you ma'am, I'm most grateful for you beneficence ma'am... > Ian F. Braidwood Wrote: > >If he wants equal billing here, then perhaps he should spend some time > > >making a name for himself; > > How do you suggest he do that? Its not Michael's fault that his songs > aren't played on the radio. It seems to me that touring *IS* the way for > him to get exposure to his music in England and "make a name for himself". Neither I'm afraid, is it mine and to paraphrase: One date does not a tour make. For what it's worth, I think Michael would be foolish trying to 'crack' Britain and Europe as well as the USA; but having said that, would it have been so much to ask that he dropped two or three numbers for the non - USA shows? > >not rely on being Aimee's husband and Sean's brother. > > What does that mean? He doesn't "rely" on being Aimee's husband/Sean's > brother. It probably annoys him that the press often ignore his music and > keep referring to him that way. Aimee isn't popular in the UK for nothing, she worked to gain a following here and the majority of the audience went to see her, accepting that Michael was part of the deal. Acoustic Vaudeville would have been the perfect introduction to Michael if there wasn't so much of him. > Michael performed a good selection of his songs. If you were an MP fan you > would have had his albums and would have been familiar with the songs. I'm not an MP fan, am I? What's more it's not a crime for me not to be an MP fan, is it? This is the Mannlist. > I would be willing to bet that if Aimee were to take some of Michael's songs > and sing them as if she had written them, the same people that are slamming > Michael now, would rave about how great these "Aimee" songs are. I am not slamming Michael. I'm glad I got to hear his songs and I do remember being impressed; but and I'm afraid it's a big but: it was too much unfamiliar material. I'm not reneging on some agreement. I'm not saying Michael's songs were inferior quality. I'm saying that given the nature of the audience it would have made a better introduction for us if Michael had stepped back a little. Finally, could we please remember that when you hit 'reply all', to delete the other email address? That way the poor sod on the other end of your temper only has to deal with it once? Thank you for your consideration, (-: Ian :-) I count myself in nothing else so happy As in a soul remembering my good friends - Richard II by William Shakespeare >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sat Dec 23 16:18:19 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f91.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.91]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA29738 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:18:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:17:47 -0800 Received: from 172.130.19.69 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:17:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.130.19.69] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Sessions at West 54th Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:17:47 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2000 22:17:47.0592 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E1C8C80:01C06D2E] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hausman is interested in a Sessions spot as well. Stay tuned. >From: Brwnshoe@aol.com >Subject: Re: We like Aimee. We like Nelly. >Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 02:43:45 EST > >SNL would be OK, but I'd still rather see Aimee featured on Sessions at >West >54th. > >As far as SNL, the best recently has been their parodies of George Dubya >and >Al Bore. Pretty funny stuff. > >Steve > >In a message dated 12/21/00 7:27:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, >ldphill@earthlink.net writes: > ><< Aimee should be on SNL. >> > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From edmund@e-p-w.net Sat Dec 23 18:13:13 2000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA05419 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:13:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.8.86.101] (helo=m006nb00) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.11 #5) id 149yml-0003mu-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 00:13:11 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c06d3d$ee38b3e0$655608c3@m006nb00> Reply-To: "Edmund PW" From: "Edmund PW" To: References: <004101c06d2c$9f91e060$3344fc3e@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 00:09:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was fortunate enough to sit at the centre of the front row at the London Acoustic Vaudeville show. To my right sat a couple who had travelled from the Netherlands in order to see Michael Penn play. They were not familiar with Aimee Mann's music but enjoyed it immensely. I'm not sure why they should have seen less of Michael Penn, just because I wanted to see more of Aimee.... In any case, I totally enjoyed the whole show - even though I was unfamiliar with all the MP stuff pre-MP4. It is worth noting that in England MP is totally unknown. No Myth was not a hit here and Penn is as obscure as indeed are Til Tuesday. Aimee was quite successful here with Whatever, which seems to be the basis of her small but select group of UK fans. But then no-one knows about Patten Oswalt either!! I'm not sure I buy into the argument that you can't enjoy a show if you aren't already familiar with the songs. I find that often I am as excited by the ones I haven't heard before as the ones that I know inside out. A good mixture makes for an excellent set. >From speener-d@home.com Sat Dec 23 22:47:34 2000 Received: from mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (ha2.rdc2.pa.home.com [24.12.106.195]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA28776 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:47:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.40.42.88] by mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001224044727.EZD9109.mail.rdc2.pa.home.com@[24.40.42.88]>; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:47:27 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:47:27 -0500 Subject: Re: OT: Kirsty Maccoll From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist CC: Paul Barras Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speener-d@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Just realing that Kirsty Maccoll was the one that sang "Miss Otis Regrets" with the Pogues on Red Hot + Blue. That's my favorite song on that cd, I seem to remember a video. How very sad. sl -- "That which doesn't kill us, makes us stranger." Aeon Flux > From: "Paul Barras" > Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:39:25 -0900 > To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > Subject: OT: Kirsty Maccoll > > I vaguely remember something in an interview with Penn on World Cafe (or > whatever that show is called), Michael mentioned specifically Tracy Ullman's > album and THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT US. I think it was in reference to Brendan > or someone who was involved in creating the *style* of that album. I didn't > know who Kirsty Maccoll was, but what a horrible accident. I am glad Aimee > is a homebody! No skiing a la Sonny Bono, or flying her own plane a la > Kennedy or swimming! > > > Thanks Larry Tucker!!! I got the package!! I owe you big time! > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sat Dec 23 23:29:36 2000 Received: from imo-r18.mail.aol.com (imo-r18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.72]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA01166 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:29:36 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id t.ce.e68d170 (3995); Sun, 24 Dec 2000 00:28:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 00:28:52 EST Subject: Re: OT: Kirsty Maccoll To: speener-d@home.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: sonichawk@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-23 23:48:14 EST, speener-d@home.com writes: > Just realing that Kirsty Maccoll was the one that sang "Miss Otis Regrets" > with the Pogues on Red Hot + Blue. That's my favorite song on that cd, I > seem to remember a video. How very sad. > There was a video, on the Red Hot and Blue collection. I have no idea if it's in print. It was good I liked it a lot. It was set in a music hall, and was vaudville like. Andrea >From speener-d@home.com Sun Dec 24 00:55:34 2000 Received: from mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (ha2.rdc2.pa.home.com [24.12.106.195]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA13103 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 00:55:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.40.42.88] by mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001224065519.BIZO9109.mail.rdc2.pa.home.com@[24.40.42.88]> for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:55:19 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 01:55:20 -0500 Subject: Re: OT: Eddi Reader From: Spencer Lewis To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001701c06ab0$5acd5b90$070c0b0a@DEXTER> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3060467720_2999008_MIME_Part" Reply-To: speener-d@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3060467720_2999008_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Definitely a fan. Thanks for the info. sl -- "It's harder to be friends than lovers, and you shouldn't try to mix the two. Cause if you do it and your still unhappy, then you know that the problem is you" --- Liz Phair From: "Howard Semones" I apologize if I'm wrong, but I think I remember there being some Eddi Reader fans on the list, so I thought I drop a bit o' news. She has a new album, Simple Soul, coming out on Jan. 9th on Compass Records. --MS_Mac_OE_3060467720_2999008_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: OT:  Eddi Reader Definitely a fan.  Thanks for the info.

sl
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"It's harder to be friends than lovers, and you shouldn't try to mix t= he two. Cause if you do it and your still unhappy, then you know that the pr= oblem is you" --- Liz Phair

From: "Howard Semones" <howard@thewebpen.net>


I apologize if I'm wrong, but I think I remember there being so= me Eddi Reader fans on the list, so I thought I drop a bit o' news.

She has a new album, Simple Soul, coming out on Jan. 9th on Compass = Records.



--MS_Mac_OE_3060467720_2999008_MIME_Part-- >From mvfisk@gj.net Sun Dec 24 10:06:48 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA10611 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 10:06:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.65.149] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AF8261E70026; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 09:08:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3A461EF7.2BF2A33C@gj.net> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 09:06:15 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: Re: Michael/Aimee overlap Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN     Just to add my tuppence to the Michael/Aimee overlap flap:  an MP fan said it was due to the efforts of one Paul Barras that he listened to AM.  I will reverse that; it was Paul who insisted that I, a longtime Aimee Mann fan, check out Michael Penn.  I did so, and very much enjoyed what I heard.  I'm not listening to Michael's music because he's Aimee Mann's husband, although I probably never would have heard it if he wasn't.  So whatever the reason for our first listen, when we go back it is because we enjoy a musical hook (as in Footdown) or a well-crafted lyric ("What a scene/what a drama just to find the door") or a clever phrase ("a diamonetta in the rough").
    Michael Penn has nothing to be ashamed of.  Yes, he is Sean Penn's brother and Aimee Mann's hubby.  I haven't noticed him trading on that at all.  Should he hide it?  Why?  Now I'm looking at the CD case for MP4.  The front has his picture and name, and the album title.  I am looking for the banner "Music from Sean's brother/Aimee's husband" but I can't find it.  And by the way, I believe he has been making music for quite a while.
    By the way, how come I haven't been able to start a lively debate here about the merits of listening to the Kingston Trio?  Not that I haven't tried....
Michael >From speener-d@home.com Sun Dec 24 10:36:28 2000 Received: from mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (ha2.rdc2.pa.home.com [24.12.106.195]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA11603 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 10:36:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.40.42.88] by mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001224163622.DBSU13669.mail.rdc2.pa.home.com@[24.40.42.88]> for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 08:36:22 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 11:36:23 -0500 Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004101c06d2c$9f91e060$3344fc3e@oemcomputer> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speener-d@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Yes it would be. For fans that are supposedly trying to support the independent artist, I find it amazing that you are unwilling to realize that someone like Michael has to take every break he can take. The most smug and ridiculous statement (In a group of statements that are smug and ridiculous), is that he didn't embarrass himself. Please - Michael has been in this business as long, if not longer than Aimee - he wouldn't embarrass himself. I'm reminded of the stories of Stevie Wonder being booed when he opened for the Stones - idiots. Most indie artists cannot afford to tour with full bands, and sharing the band has made it reasonable to do so. Remember there is no opening act to help support the cost. Why should MP take a step back, he's the one that needs the exposure. I would actually like to see Buddy Judge do a few songs. You know - I'm sure you'd like to see a Beatles reunion, but you're not - so get used to it. Either that or you can turn the world over to the bands that can afford to tour on their own, you know, NSYNCH, Brittany Spears, the Backstreet Boys. It seems that is what you would want. For those MP fans that would like a more tolerant haven: Spencer Lewis (Pennlist moderator by default) ------- Join the Michael Pennlist at http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/michaelpennlist > From: "Ian F. Braidwood." > Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:05:49 -0000 > To: > Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) > > For what it's worth, I think Michael would be foolish trying to 'crack' > Britain and Europe as well as the USA; but having said that, would it have > been so much to ask that he dropped two or three numbers for the non - USA > shows? >From Nberliner55@cs.com Sun Dec 24 10:42:55 2000 Received: from imo-r11.mail.aol.com (imo-r11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA11661 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 10:42:54 -0600 (CST) From: Nberliner55@cs.com Received: from Nberliner55@cs.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.5f.eae5e1c (4444) for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 11:42:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5f.eae5e1c.2777816e@cs.com> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 11:42:22 EST Subject: Need 2 NYC Tix To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 111 Reply-To: Nberliner55@cs.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Either night, front center orchestra. Thanks! >From Crawstgc@aol.com Sun Dec 24 13:30:39 2000 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA18094 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 13:30:38 -0600 (CST) From: Crawstgc@aol.com Received: from Crawstgc@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.83.4b7f779 (3988) for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 14:30:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <83.4b7f779.2777a8bb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 14:30:03 EST Subject: re: Cutting us some slack To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu (Aimee Mann listproc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id NAA18095 Reply-To: Crawstgc@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This debate is becoming rather parochial and I don't want the UK element to take over the list completely, but I was also at the London show and I just wanted to offer my support to MP. I, too, had never heard any of his music - nor had my 15 year old son who accompanied me. The whole show was fantastic - probably better than seeing Aimee doing a full set. The concept was great and I really liked what I heard of MP, so I went straight on the internet after the show and ordered a copy of 'Resigned', which I have grown to love. It is no longer an excuse to say that MP's work is not available in the shops over here. Shopping on the internet is cheaper than on the high street. I hope to see Aimee and Michael performing together again over here in the very near future. I would hope that by then lots more AM fans will have familiarised themselves with MP's work so that they can appreciate the concert even more. Merry Christmas to all mannlisters Terry P.S. My vote for the best albums of the year? Apart from the obvious AM and MP releases this year, my favourite album is 'The Sophtware Slump' by Grandaddy. I also love the 3CD retrospective of Magazine called 'Maybe it's right to be nervous now' (and it only cost £18) >From diri.gini@virgin.net Sun Dec 24 15:33:08 2000 Received: from mta5-svc.virgin.net (mta5-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.45]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA23350 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 15:33:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.253.36.22]) by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001224213304.VAAB29672.mta5-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 21:33:04 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01c06df1$2f60e8c0$1624fd3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: <004101c06d2c$9f91e060$3344fc3e@oemcomputer> <001201c06d3d$ee38b3e0$655608c3@m006nb00> Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 21:32:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi folks, > I was fortunate enough to sit at the centre of the front row at the London > Acoustic Vaudeville show. To my right sat a couple who had travelled from > the Netherlands in order to see Michael Penn play. They were not familiar > with Aimee Mann's music but enjoyed it immensely. I'm not sure why they > should have seen less of Michael Penn, just because I wanted to see more of > Aimee.... Thanks Edmund, a good point. The first thing to say is that in one respect, our experiences were not at all identical. In owning the MP4 CD, you were acquainted not only with a lot of the material, but crucially, Michael's _style_. A previous post claimed that Aimee fans would've been hailing Michael's songs if they'd been presented as Aimee's. To be honest I doubt this, many MP fans have said that his music is an acquired taste; one of the things which is striking about Aimee's is their accessibility. I may not have spotted the songs weren't by Aimee, but I would've sensed that some sort of change had occurred. An interesting thought experiment though. The second thing to say pertains to the two Dutch people, who came to see Michael. While I respect their dedication, does that really mean it should outweigh the interests of what, 500 people? Remember I'm only suggesting that Michael sing two less and Aimee two more, out of respect for their audience; after all, the majority had never even heard of Michael. > I'm not sure I buy into the argument that you can't enjoy a show if you > aren't already familiar with the songs. That isn't what I said. My point was that there was too much unfamiliar material. By familiarising yourself with MP4, you knew much of the material, but more importantly, you knew Michael's style. Clear? :-) Spencer: > For fans that are supposedly trying to support the > independent artist, I find it amazing that you are > unwilling to realize that someone like Michael has > to take every break he can take. I am not trying to support the independent artist, I'm supporting Aimee. If you had read my post more carefully, I didn't complain about seeing Michael, but too much new material, which happened to have been Michael's. I don't begrudge Michael his opportunity, I'm saying that by having a 50/50 set, he overplayed it; that it would serve him better if he showed restraint in front of a new audience. > The most smug and ridiculous statement (In a group of statements that > are smug and ridiculous), is that he didn't embarrass himself. So you didn't spot any logical flaws in any of my smug and ridiculous statements to point out, then? :-) > I'm reminded of the stories of Stevie Wonder being booed > when he opened for the Stones - idiots. Doesn't that really just mean that Stevie was a poor choice of warm-up for the Stones? Beyond technical considerations, there are no agreed standards of excellence, only personal taste. Even if you can't understand how somebody doesn't like a personal favourite of yours, can you at least accept that they don't without taking it as a betrayal? > Why should MP take a step back, he's the one that > needs the exposure. Out of consideration for the audience, who only paid. Try to understand that I'm not just being partisan; in the UK Aimee has something to lose and Michael has little to gain. The UK is a closed market to Michael unless he want's to make an effort here, which might damage his US prospects. Remember that Great Britain isn't Little America, we don't see the same TV shows you do and we have no shortage of our own talent; so any American act that comes here has to work to succeed. I don't think Michael cares unduly about being popular here, so it wouldn't have hurt him to have stepped back. As I said, the UK is a special case. (-: Ian :-) The road to wisdom? Well it's plain and simple to express: Err and err and err again, but less and less and less. - Piet Hein >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sun Dec 24 20:07:05 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f44.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.44]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA14287 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 20:07:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 18:06:34 -0800 Received: from 24.237.120.205 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 02:06:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.120.205] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Do your *homework* before a show Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 17:06:34 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2000 02:06:34.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E5A0740:01C06E17] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Funny, it sure sounded like that was your point, Ian. If you AREN'T complaining that you were too bombarded with new stuff to enjoy the show (and while subjective, is a rather thin argument at best, to which I say *free your mind and the rest will follow.* Oh God, I quoted En Vogue!!), then what is your point?? If the point is that the show was more enjoyable, because Edmund familiarized himself with the material, then you're wholly to blame for your predicament, Ian. You see, Edmund, who reads the list, probably understood that AV was a Mann-PENN production (ok, Mann-Penn-Patton et al...) and did his homework. It seems to me that if your preference (and again since it's subjective, you make that call) for more familiar fare makes shows more enjoyable, it was incumbent upon you to make the experience more palatable not Aimee and Michael. It's not like you weren't. I am sure a number of people on the list would have been happy to accommodate your desire for Penn marterial as I did for Edmund. I am a happy camper and amnot flaming ya Ian. I am merely trying to offer you a solution, because things are what they are. Happy Holidays to you. BTW, I am sure that the Dutch (who rock!!!) couple weren't the only people out of 500 who knew of Penn. A few other Mannlisters were there who also did for starters. I think Edmund was just using them as an example. I want to thanks the MANY Mannlist folk that I now call friends who sent me cards!! You know who you are!! I returned from a lot of travel with a lingering cold and was surprised not only by cards, but a gift too!! A disc doctor from Mr. Craig Adams! Oh, the rewards of the Mannlist are endless. >From: "Ian F. Braidwood." >>Hi folks, >> > I'm not sure I buy into the argument that you can't enjoy a show if you > > aren't already familiar with the songs. >That isn't what I said. My point was that there was too much unfamiliar >material. By familiarising yourself with MP4, you knew much of the >material, >but more importantly, you knew Michael's style. Clear? :-) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From bob.snyder@home.com Sun Dec 24 22:02:02 2000 Received: from cx783108-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (root@cx783108-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.5.161.125]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA17487 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 22:02:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from home.com (rgs@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cx783108-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eBP42IT01382 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 20:02:18 -0800 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Message-ID: <3A46C6CA.985D0B23@home.com> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 20:02:18 -0800 From: "Robert G. Snyder" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) References: <004101c06d2c$9f91e060$3344fc3e@oemcomputer> <001201c06d3d$ee38b3e0$655608c3@m006nb00> <002c01c06df1$2f60e8c0$1624fd3e@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: bob.snyder@home.com X-Sender: rgs@cx783108-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN "Ian F. Braidwood." wrote: > While I respect their dedication, does that really mean it should outweigh > the interests of what, 500 people? Remember I'm only suggesting that Michael > sing two less and Aimee two more, out of respect for their audience; after > all, the majority had never even heard of Michael. Geez, Ian, isn't it a bit presumptous of you to speak for the interests of 500 people? Is it so radical an idea that some, maybe even half of them, might have enjoyed Michael's music as much as Aimee's? Your contention that you need serious exposure to an artist before you can appreciate their music as much as someone you already know... well maybe for you. But allow me to speak for me. I guess I can't put myself in your place, having been a big Michael Penn fan since I first heard him 11 odd years ago, but the AV show I saw last May in San Diego was perhaps the best show I've ever seen. Aimee and Michael played off each other, sang each other's songs, even did a duet. When one sang, the other played along. The band was great, and Patrick Warren's work is a joy all of it's own. Even when Michael performed one of his songs, Aimee was involved. She was up front there, playing guitar, singing backup vocals with Buddy, and looking great. Michael has a song called 'Brave New World' in which the rapid-fire lyrics require a lot of concentration on his part. My favorite moment of the show was when Aimee tried to break his concentration and then mocked him when he forgot the words. It was hilarious. Aimee and Michael work together well. The show was more than the sum of its parts. To suggest that Michael should have backed off is an offense to him (and Aimee) whether you will admit it or not. He isn't Mr. Aimee Mann, even in jolly old England. I have carefully removed your email address from the top of this email in the hope that finding it twice in your inbox will not spoil your day. Merry Christmas everyone, Bob S. >From gussen@rcn.com Sun Dec 24 22:14:09 2000 Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA18151 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 22:14:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from 208-59-250-225.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([208.59.250.225] helo=gussen) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14AP1T-0002bZ-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 23:14:07 -0500 Message-ID: <011a01c06e2a$df4b4df0$e1fa3bd0@rcn.com> From: "James Gussen" To: "Mann List" References: Subject: Re: Do your *homework* before a show Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 23:26:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: gussen@rcn.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Okay, well, don't mean to butt in here, but... I can see coming around on the Michael Penn question. I've taken the advice to "do my homework" to heart, have bought MP4, and am surprised how much I am enjoying it. Perhaps what we need is a slight change of subject. Anyone seriously wanna defend the presence of the _comedian_? >From diri.gini@virgin.net Mon Dec 25 14:33:02 2000 Received: from mta7-svc.virgin.net (mta7-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA21626 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 14:33:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.253.38.203]) by mta7-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP id <20001225203254.CATC12184.mta7-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 20:32:54 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c06eb1$ef21a440$cb26fd3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: <004101c06d2c$9f91e060$3344fc3e@oemcomputer> <001201c06d3d$ee38b3e0$655608c3@m006nb00> <002c01c06df1$2f60e8c0$1624fd3e@oemcomputer> <3A46C6CA.985D0B23@home.com> Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :)... or A Christmas Fable. Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 20:32:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Howdy, This debate reminds me of a common discussion I have with meateaters; usually after I've declined a piece of puppy and tuna pizza. It starts like this: 'Oh, you're Vegetarian. Why?' 'Because I don't approve of causing suffering to animals.' I reply. 'How do you know they feel any pain?' 'Because we know that in humans, sensory information - including pain - travels to the brain via the nerves; both features we have in common with animals.' Things take a slightly philosophical turn as my interlocutor goes on the offensive: 'But that doesn't prove that the nerve impulses mean the same thing to an animal as it does to us.' 'True, but the fact that you can use a ridiculous bit of wire to corral an animal weighing several hundred pounds, just by running an electric current through it, shows that the animal not only draws an association, but can predict that the pain will recur and choose to avoid it. That demonstrates a significant cognitive ability, doesn't it?' 'But that still doesn't prove they feel pain.' The meateater insists. Now we have reached a branching point in my little story. If it's early in the evening, my response is: 'No it doesn't, but don't you think it would be wise to give animals the benefit of the doubt; given the scale of possible suffering caused?' 'I suppose it does.' Comes the grudging reply, as my companion peruses the table for a kitten kebab. 'But animals are killed humanely.' 'You don't know about the captive bolt gun, do you?' I respond. 'What it does is fires a bolt through the animal's cranium...' 'I DON'T WANT TO KNOW!!!' Ejaculates my debating partner, before waddling off into Denialland, closely pursued by conscience. If it's later in the evening, a new factor comes into play: beer is made entirely without animal products... :-) 'Indeed,' I slur. 'Cognito (hic!) ergo su....um, as Desthingy says... means I can't even be sure _you_ feel pain...' 'By way of an experiment,' I ask. 'is it alright if I stick the skewer of my roasted pepper and tofu saty in your eye?' 'Now you're being ridiculous...' Blusters the carnivore. 'You're good at this arguing lark, aren't you?' I say and go on to point out: 'That's the... the somethingsth point I've had to concede...' 'Unfortunately for you.' I continue. 'I'm doing it by extending your own logic.' Now, from some quite distant corner of the Library of Babel, comes the accusation: 'I bet if I came round your house, you'd make me eat vegetables!' At this point it's necessary for me to pause to allow the fog to clear, so I can confirm the scale of buffoon I'm dealing with. It's also important to consider that some of my inhibitions just ain't working like they usually do; so I can't suppress the smirk as I say: 'Wot, like roast potatoes?' 'HUH!' My debating partner ejaculates. 'You're SO IRRATIONAL!' Before waddling off into Denialland, closely pursued by conscience. ######## The point of my lengthy analogy is that while I offer logical arguments backed up with evidence, some of you are trying to win this discussion by force of will. It's a bit like playing tennis with a volley ball net: I gently serve underarm to ensure the ball goes over the net and stays in bounds, while you perform a forehand smash _under the net_. I carefully nudge the ball over and you intercept the ball, dribble it under the net before kicking it up in the air and booting it into the back of the goal. I just have the feeling that we ought to be playing the same game, that's all. The only remotely cogent point offered since I last posted was the accusation that I tried to speak for 500 or so people. Indeed I have no right to speak for 500 people and I'm glad I didn't. What I can do though is estimate the Mann/Penn proportions of the audience using salient facts, such as: Aimee's album Whatever charted here in a modest way, which means significant numbers of people bought it. Aimee has toured here at least three times. Michael's following here could be listed on the back of an envelope, including our Dutch friends. Who do you think the audience wanted to hear most? Remember that all I'm suggesting is a little flexibility in consideration of the audience. The same logic might mean it would b sensible for Aimee to step back a little in certain places (Pennsylvania? ;-). The last issue demonstrates how stupidly dogmatic some people have become on this issue. Apparently, I should've done my homework. Consider: I may have decided that since I was paying anyway, I'd use AV as my introduction to Michael's music; rather than pay for a CD I might not like. Are you so blind to your own inflexibility that you can't recognise prudence? One of the reason's the Mannlist is so acrimonious might be that it's very poor at tolerating descent. Merry Christmas from the land of Bob Cratchett, (-: Ian :-) The road to wisdom? Well it's plain and simple to express: Err and err and err again, but less and less and less. - Piet Hein >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 25 19:47:45 2000 Received: from clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA08664 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 19:47:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from [205.153.104.248] by [206.8.2.1] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.0.1); 25-Dec-2000 19:46:24 -0600 Date: 25 Dec 2000 19:45:38 -0600 Message-ID: <-1234348968jsteinmann@clynch.com> Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jack Steinmann Subject: re: Cutting Us some slack! :) To: CC: Mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id TAA08665 X-Sender: Jack Steinmann X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey, that reminds me, Radiohead performed the National Anthem on Saturday Night Live. Wouldn't it be something to see Thom Yorke singing it again at the Superbowl, honoured or not? Jack Ian F. Braidwood. wrote: >What I do is simply ignore what isn't relevant to me, which usually means >much material that is on topic. While getting to sing the National Anthem at >the Superbowl may be a great honour in the USA, it means nothing to the rest >of us. Not that I'd dream of stopping any of it, the simple truth is you >have to cut people some slack. >From eclectic_eel@yahoo.com Mon Dec 25 20:24:22 2000 Received: from web9611.mail.yahoo.com (web9611.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id UAA09753 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 20:24:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001226022421.55891.qmail@web9611.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.202.20] by web9611.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 18:24:21 PST Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 18:24:21 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Landon Subject: On Sharing the Bill, and PennMannship in general... To: Aimee Mann listproc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: eclectic_eel@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Given the recent to and fro - concerning the issue of a concert appearance in your neighborhood, one which occurs too infrequently for the average mannlister...to finally get to see Aimee perform - only to have to put up with that husband of hers...that brother of Sean and Christopher... Since I come to the debate with a near equal reverence for both of them - I can't say as though MP on the bill is at all, ever, a bad thing... What gets me about this whole discussion however, it's the seemingly encouraged taking of sides - as if the two performers were somehow, inconceivable to connect in a cd collection. Now, for those of you who've come to know MP as a result of Aimee - and some who have the fairly recent "Magnolia" as their initiation-point for Aimee...Consider the fact that an individual who listened to Aimee Mann OR Michael Penn 10 Years ago...was very likely to end-up a fan of the other...if only they got the chance to "hear-of" them. The qualities in the music - by style, substance, texture - and even similar woes of the Label-kind... But for most - it was really only a matter of time. I got the Til Tuesday cd's as they were released - and naturally, Aimee's solo stuff when it came. I also got each Penn release as it was offered...and if I could have only predicted that these two would end up together as a couple ? Does it seem at all unmatched? For those of you out there who have been utilising stealth, archaeology, and research methods to "find" singer/songwriters, discover new talent to enjoy...It was probably in the same musical circles that the names of Penn and Mann came-up as recommendations. Can you remember just a few years ago - pre Sarah, alanis, Elliot Smith, and new surge of the style - how hard it was, and how lucky you had to be - just to find out about an Aimee type of artist - unless you live in a decently cosmo Metro centre, or a hep' University town...You simply DIDN'T hear about the better stuff - you had to actively go seeking it...and I know how this whole internet thing is the new religion and all of that - but guess what kids - it too is just a recent fad, one that will last and have many benefits to this very subject - but younger in years than some of the albums we all love... So...to draw any lines between the sand of Penn and Mann - is to be blind to the obviousness of their belonging in the same CD changer, and on the same stage - and lookie' here now, why - they's is married to each other...Huh? Aimee coulda' married either Finn brother, stayed with jules Shear, or hooked up with Francis Dunnery - only to dump him for Julian Dawson - then become a swinger with all of the members of Blue Rodeo...It still would have made perfect sense to me...but I'm nuts and don't get out much, so such imagination comes naturally to me. The long and the short of it is - Aimee's gotta' tour with somebody (usually) So be glad it's a Michael Penn...I've seen her with Semisonic, Ron Sexsmith, Squeeze, and even squeeky ol' Bobby Dylan...So far - Penn gets my vote. My name is eel and I am Selfish. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >From speener-d@home.com Mon Dec 25 23:35:53 2000 Received: from mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (ha2.rdc2.pa.home.com [24.12.106.195]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA18869 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 23:35:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.40.42.88] by mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001226053547.WWYW13669.mail.rdc2.pa.home.com@[24.40.42.88]> for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 21:35:47 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 00:35:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Do your *homework* before a show From: Spencer Lewis To: Aimee Mann listproc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200012251200.GAA27567@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3060635747_2994896_MIME_Part" Reply-To: speener-d@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3060635747_2994896_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I would can the comedian and replace him for an indie artist, particurlarly Buddy Judge or Jon Brion. Either would seem a perfect fit. BTW - If you like MP4, you must pick up "Resigned". BTW2 - Joseph Arthur's cd "Come To Where I'm From" simply rocks, and is beginning the process of taking away my best of year vote from Badly Drawn Boy or Elliot Smith. -- "Three Screws and you're fixed" -- Richtie Jr. From: "James Gussen" Subject: Re: Do your *homework* before a show Okay, well, don't mean to butt in here, but... I can see coming around on the Michael Penn question. I've taken the advice to "do my homework" to heart, have bought MP4, and am surprised how much I am enjoying it. Perhaps what we need is a slight change of subject. Anyone seriously wanna defend the presence of the _comedian_? --MS_Mac_OE_3060635747_2994896_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Do your *homework* before a show I would can the comedian and replace him for an indie artist, particurlarly= Buddy Judge or Jon Brion.  Either would seem a perfect fit.

BTW - If you like MP4, you must pick up "Resigned".

BTW2 - Joseph Arthur's cd "Come To Where I'm From" simply rocks, = and is beginning the process of taking away my best of year vote from Badly = Drawn Boy or Elliot Smith.
--

"Three Screws and you're fixed" -- Richtie Jr.

From: "James Gussen" <gussen@r= cn.com>
Subject: Re: Do your *homework* before a show

Okay, well, don't mean to butt in here, but...

I can see coming around on the Michael Penn question.

I've taken the advice to "do my homework" to heart, have bought M= P4, and am
surprised how much I am enjoying it.

Perhaps what we need is a slight change of subject.

Anyone seriously wanna defend the presence of the _comedian_?


 --MS_Mac_OE_3060635747_2994896_MIME_Part-- >From sharbear@epix.net Tue Dec 26 11:06:40 2000 Received: from lima.epix.net (lima.epix.net [199.224.64.56]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA10131 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:06:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from epix.net (svcr-adsl-209-74-0-23.epix.net [209.74.0.23]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with ESMTP id eBQH6GB05211; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 12:06:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A48CFDC.73509B6F@epix.net> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 12:05:33 -0500 From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid X-Sender: "Sharon McDonnell Schmid" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al , Beverly McDonnell , bob allen , Brad Creveling , Dan Hicks , "\"Ernie \\\"Pop\\\" Schmid\"" , Eric Savignano , Gary Watkins , Harry Zweier , Jen , Jill Weisenfeld , Jim Mazza , Joey Schmid , John Carminati , Kathleen Moran , Lorenzo , Maria DuBiel , Mark Goodell , Michael Scholl , Paul Barras , Paul Moran , Peter Frame , Peter Schmid , Robert Allen , mannlist , Barb Bullions , Brian Siegel , Christopher Augustine , Doc Mazza , Greg Farshtey , Harry Zweier , Jack Jescavage , Julie Orzell , Larry Freedman , Linda & Patrick Frame , MaryRose Falzone , Nick Specht , Nicholas Specht , " Potoeski, Brian" , Randy Williams , "Robert A Decker, Jr." , Schpaybo , " =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Lacoste" , " wandah@epix.net" Subject: [Fwd: Important Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8B2CA6BA42F442862C7CD9CF" Reply-To: sharbear@epix.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8B2CA6BA42F442862C7CD9CF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2F0450DE947C6E03C91472D6" --------------2F0450DE947C6E03C91472D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there... Please run your virus scans asap. Someone on my address list has the "W32/Hybris.gen@M" virus and every time they send an email, the virus is emailed to everyone on their address list as well. This virus comes from the email going around about Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. It is a joke with an attachment and it is not mailed from a name that we know. If you get this email from "hahaha@sexyfun.net" do not open the attachment. Delete the message. In the meantime, it might be a smart idea to run your virus scans or even update your virus scans and make sure that you do not have this virus on your computer. Otherwise, the people on your address list will keep receiving this virus. Thanks! sharon Information about the virus below: --------------2F0450DE947C6E03C91472D6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there...

Please run your virus scans asap.  Someone on my address list has the "W32/Hybris.gen@M" virus and every time they send an email, the virus is emailed to everyone on their address list as well.  This virus comes from the email going around about Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.  It is a joke with an attachment and it is not mailed from a name that we know.  If you get this email from "hahaha@sexyfun.net" do not open the attachment.  Delete the message.  In the meantime, it might be a smart idea to run your virus scans or even update your virus scans and make sure that you do not have this virus on your computer.  Otherwise, the people on your address list will keep receiving this virus.

Thanks!

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Information about the virus below: --------------2F0450DE947C6E03C91472D6-- --------------8B2CA6BA42F442862C7CD9CF Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from lima.epix.net ([199.224.64.56]) by almond.epix.net with ESMTP id <20001226080058.YYDJ29350.almond@lima.epix.net> for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 03:00:58 -0500 Received: from epix ([205.238.200.144]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with SMTP id eBQ80vv18952 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 03:00:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01b701c06f12$1dadd580$90c8eecd@epix.net> From: "Infotech" To: References: <200012260441.XAA04544@ginger.epix.net> Subject: Re: a question Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 03:01:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hello, This is a virus it was most likely sent by this user without his or her knowledge. Please see the info. below regarding this virus. Virus Name W32/Hybris.gen@M Date Added 11/1/00 2:37:27 PM Virus Characteristics This is an Internet worm which can be received by email. Typically these messages will make reference to, "Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs". If run, this worm modifies the WSOCK32.DLL file, after which, an attempt is made to mail a copy of the worm to all mail recipients whenever email messages are sent out. AVERT cautions all users to delete unexpected attachments. W32/Hybris.gen@M is sent unknowingly by the user. This Internet worm downloads encrypted update components from an Internet web site, most likely it is the author's site. This worm downloads encrypted components similar to the method first used by W95/Babylonia. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 11:41 PM Subject: a question > sharon sent the following: > First some environmental variables: > HTTP_USER_AGENT:Mozilla/4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) > REMOTE_ADDR:209.74.0.23 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hello, > > I keep receiving the same email from a > suspicious sender with what I believe to > be a virus attached. The sender is "hahaha@sexyfun.net" > and the message is a snow white joke with > an attachment. I keep deleting the messages. > However, I am wondering if there is a way I > can block this mail from reaching me. > Please let me know the best way to approach > this. There are two other epix customers > I know of that are receiving the same message. > > Thank you, > > sharon j. schmid > --------------8B2CA6BA42F442862C7CD9CF-- >From HumbleKat@email.msn.com Tue Dec 26 19:31:17 2000 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com [207.46.181.18]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id TAA28185 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:31:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from l0x2s0 - 63.15.211.37 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:30:43 -0800 Message-ID: <00e101c06fa4$33c45b40$7019113f@l0x2s0> From: "HumbleKat" To: References: <001201c06d3d$ee38b3e0$655608c3@m006nb00> Subject: Re: Cutting Us some slack! :) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 20:27:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Reply-To: HumbleKat@email.msn.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN (Then again, I am the type to read the synopsis of a show or play before I go see it too...) I was just making the recommendation on that I've found it necessary to listen at least three times to an album all the way through before I can even pretend to get my hands around it lyrically to make an assessment either for or against a particular song. Because of this, I found the statements asking for 'less Penn' to be a premature judgement on his abilities...in a similar vein to someone who says they don't like the Bard simply because they 'don't get it' the first time through... To date the only song I haven't really liked of MP's has been Big House off of 'March'.... But hey, that's just me. FYI, the Kat who started listening to AM due to the efforts of one Paul Barras is a she, and she says that after seeing Sean Penn in Shanghai Surprise that if I were related to him, I wouldn't advertise it either... (yes, I know he's a talented actor, but he's clearly had some big ol lapses in judgement in addition to his 'artistic' temperment) (and just so you don't think we disagree on everything, I too am a vegetarian.. ...but for health reasons...) Kat >From mvfisk@gj.net Tue Dec 26 21:14:51 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA03268 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:14:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.65.135] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AF16987013C; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 20:16:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3A495E9E.95CA9DCA@gj.net> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 20:14:38 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: OT: carnivorism Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN    Wow, Ian, you really went off on a tangent this time!  LOL  ...I am reminded of the words of a very wise man who said, "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals; it's because I hate plants."  How do you know plants don't feel pain?  Are you so narrow-minded that you can't recognize the possibility they feel pain in a way we don't understand?  How's that for a forehand smash under the net?
   I have never used the argument that animals don't feel pain.  I think that's a ridiculous statement.
   Personally, the only reason I eat meat is so humans won't be overrun by cattle, pigs, and chickens  <JOKE>.  Have you ever tried possum pie?  I'll send you the recipe...and I have a hilarious "Road Kill Cafe" email here somewhere....
   At least we kill our prey before we eat it.  Many predators in the wild are not so judicious.  A bolt through the cranium is probably better than a claw swipe across the abdomen, don't you think?
   Oh, yes, and tell me again, what does all this have to do with giving Michael Penn's music a chance?  You lost me at the abbatoir...this all seems to be a DESCENT into the absurd.  Let's give DISSENT its due... but not go crazy doing it.
Michael
np:  "Paradise by the Dashboard Light"--Meat Loaf <GASP!> >From sproude@earthlink.net Tue Dec 26 21:48:50 2000 Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA04948 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:48:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from earthlink.net (sdn-ar-002sccharP191.dialsprint.net [158.252.93.231]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03148 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:48:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A48BB65.6FCF1A84@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 23:38:14 +0800 From: SMP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: MANNLIST Subject: Jason Robards dies of cancer References: <3A495E9E.95CA9DCA@gj.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sproude@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I believe Magnolia was his final film. Very sad. >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 26 23:09:45 2000 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA09157 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 23:09:44 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.3a.ead0a74 (4006) for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 00:09:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3a.ead0a74.277ad374@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 00:09:08 EST Subject: Jason Robarts To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I've always liked him, and he was one of the good things about Magnolia. They showed a lot of clips from the film on the news tonight, since I it was his last one, no music, but there was a shot of PTA setting up a shot. Andrea >From happytown102@hotmail.com Tue Dec 26 23:58:37 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f70.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA11755 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 23:58:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:58:06 -0800 Received: from 32.100.64.247 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 05:58:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [32.100.64.247] From: "Frank Gargione" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: my top 10 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 00:58:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2000 05:58:06.0932 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBC2A140:01C06FC9] Reply-To: happytown102@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I thought I'd send in my top 10, too (as I just finished a 'best of the year' CD display at work): Aimee Mann 'Bachelor No. 2' Eels 'Daisies of the Galaxy' Jill Sobule 'Pink Pearl' Angie Aparo 'The American' Joseph Arthur 'Come To Where I'm From' Poe 'Haunted' Belle & Sebastian 'Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant' Radiohead 'Kid A' The Cure 'Bloodflowers' Nelly Furtado 'Whoa, Nelly!' Yo La Tengo 'And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out' Fastball 'The Harsh Light of Day' Greenday 'Warning' Okay, so there are 13, and they aren't really in order, but just go with it. Happy Holidays and stuff, Frank _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From flwarmer@earthlink.net Wed Dec 27 10:11:00 2000 Received: from penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.134]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA05739 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 10:10:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from [38.32.112.55] (ip55.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.55]) by penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02977 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:10:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012271610.IAA02977@penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:05:43 -0500 Subject: Entertainment Weekley From: "Paul S. Fish" To: Aimee Mann Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: flwarmer@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I came across this aricle this morning. Thought you'd be interested... http//:www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6595,85013,00.html ---- "Strange, isn't it? Each man's life touches so many other lives, and when he isn't around he leaves an awful hole, doesn't he?" - Clarence Oddbody, AS2 "It's A Wonderful Life" http://www.egroups.com/group/marlee_matlin >From flwarmer@earthlink.net Wed Dec 27 10:19:55 2000 Received: from penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.134]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA05971 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 10:19:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [38.32.112.55] (ip55.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.55]) by penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24420 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:19:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012271619.IAA24420@penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:14:41 -0500 Subject: Entertainment Weekley From: "Paul S. Fish" To: Aimee Mann Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: flwarmer@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Let's try this again... I came across this article this morning. Thought you'd be interested... http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6595,85013,00.html ---- "Strange, isn't it? Each man's life touches so many other lives, and when he isn't around he leaves an awful hole, doesn't he?" - Clarence Oddbody, AS2 "It's A Wonderful Life" http://www.egroups.com/group/marlee_matlin >From jillpw@hotmail.com Wed Dec 27 11:25:48 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f91.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.91]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA07383 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:25:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 09:25:17 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:25:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Entertainment Weekley Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:25:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2000 17:25:17.0116 (UTC) FILETIME=[FADD6FC0:01C07029] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Interesting interview to re-visit, especially because Grammy nominations will be announced next week. Let's hope Buddy is wrong and you don't have to "suck" to get a Grammy Award. Jill >From: "Paul S. Fish" >Reply-To: flwarmer@earthlink.net >To: Aimee Mann >Subject: Entertainment Weekley >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:05:43 -0500 > >I came across this aricle this morning. Thought you'd be interested... > >http//:www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6595,85013,00.html >---- >"Strange, isn't it? Each man's life touches so many other lives, and when >he isn't around he leaves an awful hole, doesn't he?" - Clarence Oddbody, >AS2 "It's A Wonderful Life" > >http://www.egroups.com/group/marlee_matlin > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From diri.gini@virgin.net Wed Dec 27 16:55:10 2000 Received: from mta7-svc.virgin.net (mta7-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.47]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA22989 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:55:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.68.4]) by mta7-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP id <20001227225505.NFFN12184.mta7-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:55:05 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c07058$1b4f7900$0444fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: "MANNLIST" References: <3A495E9E.95CA9DCA@gj.net> Subject: Re: carnivorism Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:54:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > Wow, Ian, you really went off on a tangent this time! LOL Now Michael, it did stop it, didn't it? I'm mean 'got to do my homework', where the hell did that come from? > How do you know plants don't feel pain? Pain is a Darwinian adaptation. Plants don't move around and so don't need a stimulus to make them avoid injury. Pain is more than just a signal of damage, it's unpleasant for very solid adaptive reasons. > Are you so narrow-minded that you can't recognize > the possibility they feel pain in a way we don't > understand? No, I'm open minded enough to bother to learn what I need to draw a rather safe conclusion. Do you eat two veg with your meat? Given that you're so concerned about vegetable rights? ;-) > How's that for a forehand smash under the net? First service. :-) > I have never used the argument that animals don't > feel pain. I think that's a ridiculous statement. It's not as absurd as might seem. There's a very respectable theory of mind, which implies that animals may not actually feel pain in the same sense we do. If that theory is ever proven, then I'll see you down KFC. :-) Until then I'm open minded enough to give animals that benefit of the doubt. > Have you ever tried possum pie? I'll send you > the recipe...and I have a hilarious "Road Kill > Cafe" email here somewhere.... Send all the recipes you like... no samples please. :-) > At least we kill our prey before we eat it. > Many predators in the wild are not so judicious. You mean than when a Lioness tears the haunches off a still-struggling wildebeest calf, it's adding ingestion to injury? ;-) Do I by the way, detect an implication that you think, because I'm vegetarian I'm sentimental? Beware, my uncle Jim was a farmer and I killed Christmas dinner when I was five. I've been a neo - Darwinist for the past twenty years, I have no illusions about lions laying down with lambs. I'll never try to force anyone to be a vegetarian; but if I had my way you'd take responsibility for dinner. > A bolt through the cranium is probably better than > a claw swipe across the abdomen, don't you think? Restricting myself to Lions as an example: each pride uses it's own favoured method of dispatching it's prey. For instance the group in the Ngorongoro Crater in Tanzania kill wildebeest by bringing one down, then one of the lioness's clamps its maw over the beast's muzzle, suffocating the victim. The idea that the captive bolt gun(CBG) is a humane method of slaughter holds about as much water as the idea that nuclear fission is a clean method of generating electricity. The idea behind the CBG is roughly the same as for a bullet. If you are ever shot, the bullet won't drill a nice clean pencil-sized hole through your flesh; if it did, a bullet wound wouldn't be a serious injury. No, you are mostly water and the bullet sets up a shock wave the same way a stone dropped in a pond sends out ripples; except that these ripples travel at hundreds of miles an hour, mashing the fine structure of your organs. Here arises the first problem for the CBG. There are plenty of people who have survived gun shot wounds to the head, even if their cognitive abilities have been altered in many and various ways. The second problem with the CBG is an extension of the first: the mechanism of the CBG retains the bolt - hence _captive_ bolt gun. In order to do this, the mechanism has to absorb much of the energy of the bolt without breaking the wrist (or shoulder) of the operator. This means that the gun can't put anything like the same amount of energy into the bolt that even a small gun puts into a bullet. Less energy = smaller shock wave = less cellular disruption. A (then) Ministry of Agriculture investigation found that up to 13% of cattle didn't even lose consciousness after the CBG had been applied and that it had to be applied two or even three times before the animal died. (CBG is a method imported from the USA, btw.) Imagine an abattoir, which handle 50 animals a day, working six days a week: that works out at about 40 agonised deaths a week or about 2000 acts of gross cruelty a year. My local directory lists two slaughter houses, serving a population of about 1,000,000 people, so 4000 animals meet an excruciating end per million people. Britain's population is roughly 56 million, which works out at 424,000 acts of barbaric cruelty each year. Consider that in 1992 there were 36,680 confirmed cases of BSE in British cattle and you'll see that my ad hoc figures are at least in the right ball park; probably wildly conservative. You're not laughing, what's the matter? > Oh, yes, and tell me again, what does all this have to > do with giving Michael Penn's music a chance? I was arguing by analogy, Michael; showing that the dogmatic attitude that had been taken by a few Mannlisters was as irrational as my imaginative meateater in the story; who incidentally wasn't that much of an exaggeration. What most people missed was the simple fact that I wasn't arguing selfishly, but tactically. I offered reasoned arguments and with exceptions, was met with wild and stupid accusations. The reception I got wasn't reasoned, it was hostile. I went into the AV show proMichael and left indifferent, because it was just too much to take in at once. The vast majority of that audience were not Mannlisters, let alone Michael's fans, because Michael is totally unknown in the UK. It follows from that simple fact that most of the audience went in indifferent and if - like me they were overwhelmed - came out antiMichael and may well choose not to attend another AV show; in which case not only has Michael's cause been hurt, but so has Aimee's. Tell me that isn't a legitimate concern for a Mannlister. Most of the people who responded to my post, couldn't see past their own dogmatic position that it should be 50/50 to realise that in some circumstances that may not actually be the wisest move for both performers. I at no time said that Michael should play 2nd fiddle to Aimee all the time, only in special cases. > You lost me at the abattoir...this all seems to be a > DESCENT into the absurd. Let's give DISSENT > its due... but not go crazy doing it. Congratulations, you found a spelling mistake; but if you can't understand analogy you have a bigger problem than me. People, even if you're too stupid to argue anything but selfishly; don't assume that everyone else suffers the same disability. (-: Ian :-) The road to wisdom? Well it's plain and simple to express: Err and err and err again, but less and less and less. - Piet Hein >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Wed Dec 27 17:03:03 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA23273 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:03:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.67.18]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001227230231.TUVP2234.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz> for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:02:31 +0000 Message-ID: <021f01c07057$7152eea0$5b404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" Subject: Top Ten 4 - 2000 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:50:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021C_01C0702D.87BCA3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C0702D.87BCA3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is my top ten from the year 2000... All these may not have been = released this year but they are the CD that I played and enjoyed the = most. Aimee Mann - B#2 The Corrs - In Blue Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication Dixie Chicks - Fly Jill Sobule - Pink Pearl Eric Clapton & BB KING - Riding With The King Chris Isaak - Speak of the Devil Lorenna McKennitt - Live in Toronto & Paris No Doubt - Return to Saturn 10th To Be Named later..... ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C0702D.87BCA3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here is my top ten from the year 2000... All these may not have = been=20 released this year but they are the CD that I played and enjoyed the = most.
 
Aimee Mann - B#2
 
The Corrs - In Blue
 
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication
 
Dixie Chicks - Fly
 
Jill Sobule - Pink Pearl
 
Eric Clapton & BB KING - Riding With The King
 
Chris Isaak - Speak of the Devil
 
Lorenna McKennitt - Live in Toronto & Paris
 
No Doubt - Return to Saturn
 
10th To Be Named later.....
------=_NextPart_000_021C_01C0702D.87BCA3E0-- >From cornwell@tir.com Wed Dec 27 17:56:04 2000 Received: from smtp02.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT003.ONEMAIN.COM [63.208.208.73]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id RAA27651 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:56:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 19388 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2000 23:55:31 -0000 Received: from port45.mico46.tir.com (HELO computer) ([216.40.169.46]) (envelope-sender ) by 10.209.20.32 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Dec 2000 23:55:31 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c07060$957ad3c0$2ea928d8@computer> From: "Sue and Gordon Cornwell" To: Subject: Fw: carnivorism Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:56:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: cornwell@tir.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Would you please take me off of your mailing list? Thankyou...cornwell@tir.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: "MANNLIST" Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 5:54 PM Subject: Re: carnivorism > > Wow, Ian, you really went off on a tangent this time! LOL > Now Michael, it did stop it, didn't it? I'm mean 'got to do my homework', > where the hell did that come from? > > > How do you know plants don't feel pain? > Pain is a Darwinian adaptation. Plants don't move around and so don't need a > stimulus to make them avoid injury. Pain is more than just a signal of > damage, it's unpleasant for very solid adaptive reasons. > > > Are you so narrow-minded that you can't recognize > > the possibility they feel pain in a way we don't > > understand? > No, I'm open minded enough to bother to learn what I need to draw a rather > safe conclusion. Do you eat two veg with your meat? Given that you're so > concerned about vegetable rights? ;-) > > > How's that for a forehand smash under the net? > First service. :-) > > > I have never used the argument that animals don't > > feel pain. I think that's a ridiculous statement. > It's not as absurd as might seem. There's a very respectable theory of mind, > which implies that animals may not actually feel pain in the same sense we > do. If that theory is ever proven, then I'll see you down KFC. :-) > Until then I'm open minded enough to give animals that benefit of the doubt. > > > Have you ever tried possum pie? I'll send you > > the recipe...and I have a hilarious "Road Kill > > Cafe" email here somewhere.... > Send all the recipes you like... no samples please. :-) > > > At least we kill our prey before we eat it. > > Many predators in the wild are not so judicious. > You mean than when a Lioness tears the haunches off a still-struggling > wildebeest calf, it's adding ingestion to injury? ;-) > > Do I by the way, detect an implication that you think, because I'm > vegetarian I'm sentimental? Beware, my uncle Jim was a farmer and I killed > Christmas dinner when I was five. I've been a neo - Darwinist for the past > twenty years, I have no illusions about lions laying down with lambs. I'll > never try to force anyone to be a vegetarian; but if I had my way you'd take > responsibility for dinner. > > > A bolt through the cranium is probably better than > > a claw swipe across the abdomen, don't you think? > Restricting myself to Lions as an example: each pride uses it's own favoured > method of dispatching it's prey. For instance the group in the Ngorongoro > Crater in Tanzania kill wildebeest by bringing one down, then one of the > lioness's clamps its maw over the beast's muzzle, suffocating the victim. > > The idea that the captive bolt gun(CBG) is a humane method of slaughter > holds about as much water as the idea that nuclear fission is a clean method > of generating electricity. > > The idea behind the CBG is roughly the same as for a bullet. If you are ever > shot, the bullet won't drill a nice clean pencil-sized hole through your > flesh; if it did, a bullet wound wouldn't be a serious injury. > > No, you are mostly water and the bullet sets up a shock wave the same way a > stone dropped in a pond sends out ripples; except that these ripples travel > at hundreds of miles an hour, mashing the fine structure of your organs. > Here arises the first problem for the CBG. There are plenty of people who > have survived gun shot wounds to the head, even if their cognitive abilities > have been altered in many and various ways. > > The second problem with the CBG is an extension of the first: the mechanism > of the CBG retains the bolt - hence _captive_ bolt gun. In order to do this, > the mechanism has to absorb much of the energy of the bolt without breaking > the wrist (or shoulder) of the operator. This means that the gun can't put > anything like the same amount of energy into the bolt that even a small gu n > puts into a bullet. Less energy = smaller shock wave = less cellular > disruption. > > A (then) Ministry of Agriculture investigation found that up to 13% of > cattle didn't even lose consciousness after the CBG had been applied and > that it had to be applied two or even three times before the animal died. > (CBG is a method imported from the USA, btw.) > > Imagine an abattoir, which handle 50 animals a day, working six days a week: > that works out at about 40 agonised deaths a week or about 2000 acts of > gross cruelty a year. My local directory lists two slaughter houses, serving > a population of about 1,000,000 people, so 4000 animals meet an excruciating > end per million people. Britain's population is roughly 56 million, which > works out at 424,000 acts of barbaric cruelty each year. > > Consider that in 1992 there were 36,680 confirmed cases of BSE in British > cattle and you'll see that my ad hoc figures are at least in the right ball > park; probably wildly conservative. > > You're not laughing, what's the matter? > > > Oh, yes, and tell me again, what does all this have to > > do with giving Michael Penn's music a chance? > I was arguing by analogy, Michael; showing that the dogmatic attitude that > had been taken by a few Mannlisters was as irrational as my imaginative > meateater in the story; who incidentally wasn't that much of an > exaggeration. > > What most people missed was the simple fact that I wasn't arguing selfishly, > but tactically. > > I offered reasoned arguments and with exceptions, was met with wild and > stupid accusations. The reception I got wasn't reasoned, it was hostile. > > I went into the AV show proMichael and left indifferent, because it was just > too much to take in at once. The vast majority of that audience were not > Mannlisters, let alone Michael's fans, because Michael is totally unknown in > the UK. It follows from that simple fact that most of the audience went in > indifferent and if - like me they were overwhelmed - came out antiMichael > and may well choose not to attend another AV show; in which case not only > has Michael's cause been hurt, but so has Aimee's. > > Tell me that isn't a legitimate concern for a Mannlister. > > Most of the people who responded to my post, couldn't see past their own > dogmatic position that it should be 50/50 to realise that in some > circumstances that may not actually be the wisest move for both performers. > > I at no time said that Michael should play 2nd fiddle to Aimee all the time, > only in special cases. > > > You lost me at the abattoir...this all seems to be a > > DESCENT into the absurd. Let's give DISSENT > > its due... but not go crazy doing it. > Congratulations, you found a spelling mistake; but if you can't understand > analogy you have a bigger problem than me. > > People, even if you're too stupid to argue anything but selfishly; don't > assume that everyone else suffers the same disability. > > (-: Ian :-) > > The road to wisdom? > Well it's plain and simple to express: > Err and err and err again, > but less and less and less. > - Piet Hein > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/2000 >From ironman@connexus.net.au Wed Dec 27 18:45:49 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA07008 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:45:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (mail.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.17]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA27409; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:45:35 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) From: "Tony Iremonger" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: ironman@connexus.net.au To: "Ian F. Braidwood." Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:45:35 +1100 Subject: Re: carnivorism - Way,way OT Response X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6k, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3a4a8d2f.6b0c.0@connexus.net.au> X-User-Info: 203.34.175.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: ironman@connexus.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN All this talk about abattoirs and slaughtering reminds me of really interesting book I picked up in Beijing one time: "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair (Published in 1906). Sinclair was a socialist which probably explains how I found the book for sale in China. It tells the story of an immigrant family arriving in Chicago and working in the meat-packing district. The story is extremely sensationalistic - the family suffer every set-back the capitalist world can throw at them and the meat-processing industry is exposed in nauseating detail. Its publication led to a full scale inquiry into the meat-processing industry in America and resulted in major health reforms. Anyway, the book must be in the public domain or something now because you can read it/download it at: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Literature/Sinclair/TheJungle/ It'll put you off canned meat for life! Tony Iremonger Melbourne, Australia >Imagine an abattoir, which handle 50 animals a day, working six days a week: >that works out at about 40 agonised deaths a week or about 2000 acts of >gross cruelty a year. My local directory lists two slaughter houses, serving >a population of about 1,000,000 people, so 4000 animals meet an excruciating >end per million people. Britain's population is roughly 56 million, which >works out at 424,000 acts of barbaric cruelty each year. > >Consider that in 1992 there were 36,680 confirmed cases of BSE in British >cattle and you'll see that my ad hoc figures are at least in the right ball >park; probably wildly conservative. >From fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Wed Dec 27 19:21:42 2000 Received: from web10807.mail.yahoo.com (web10807.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.249]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id TAA07895 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:21:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20001228012141.79266.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.77.56.139] by web10807.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:21:41 PST Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:21:41 -0800 (PST) From: Mann Fann Subject: Re: On Sharing the Bill, and PennMannship in general... To: eclectic_eel@yahoo.com, Aimee Mann listproc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: fann_of_mann@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This commentary makes a lot of sense to me because I am in a way one of these people. In the mid-to-late 80's I was listening to (and warping) both 'March' and my Til Tuesday tapes. Years later when I heard that Aimee and Michael were married, for reasons I can't really explain, the first thing I thought was "yeah, that makes sense." It's wierd, but after having listened to them both for years before they even got together, that was my reaction. Fann <> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of > Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ >From ldphill@earthlink.net Wed Dec 27 21:14:25 2000 Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA12912 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:14:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from elliott (sdn-ar-001txfworP155.dialsprint.net [168.191.159.91]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA22244 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:14:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001101c0707b$a828ac20$5b9fbfa8@elliott> From: "Lauren Phillips" To: "Mannlist" References: <021f01c07057$7152eea0$5b404f0c@hfpyz> Subject: Re: Best of 2000 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:09:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07049.57660080" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: ldphill@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07049.57660080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's my list of Top CDs I Know Were Released This Year (even though I = bought WAAAAY too many this year, most of 'em...ie some Beatles, Pet = Sounds, the Mann/Penn catalogue, etc. etc.... were from past years) 1. Aimee Mann - Bachelor No. 2 (or, the last remains of the dodo) 2. Elliott Smith - Figure 8 3. PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea 4. Almost Famous soundtrack 5. Everclear - Songs From An American Movie, Vol. 1: Learning How To = Smile 6. Michael Penn - MP4 (Days Since a Lost Time Accident) 7. Eels - Oh What A Beautiful Morning 8. Travis - The Man Who 9. Radiohead - Kid A 10. Wallflowers - Breach 11. Eels - Daisies of the Galaxy 12. Badlands: A Tribute to Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska=20 13. Shelby Lynne - I Am Shelby Lynne 14. Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump 15. Belle & Sebastian - Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant The only truly bad ones I bought this year were Fastball's The Harsh = Light of Day (same problems as they ever had: 2 lead singers and only = one of 'em can actually sing) and Everclear's SFAAM vol. 2: Good Time = for a Bad Attitude (why oh why didn't you stop at vol. 1???) --Lauren ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07049.57660080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's my list of Top CDs I Know Were = Released This=20 Year (even though I bought WAAAAY too many this year, most of 'em...ie = some=20 Beatles, Pet Sounds, the Mann/Penn catalogue, etc. etc.... were from = past=20 years)
 
1. Aimee Mann - Bachelor No. 2 (or, the = last=20 remains of the dodo)
2. Elliott Smith - Figure = 8
3. PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, = Stories from=20 the Sea
4. Almost Famous = soundtrack
5. Everclear - Songs From An American = Movie, Vol.=20 1: Learning How To Smile
6. Michael Penn - MP4 (Days Since a = Lost Time=20 Accident)
7. Eels - Oh What A Beautiful = Morning
8. Travis - The Man Who
9. Radiohead - Kid A
10. Wallflowers - Breach
11. Eels - Daisies of the = Galaxy
12. Badlands: A Tribute to Bruce = Springsteen's=20 Nebraska
13. Shelby Lynne - I Am Shelby = Lynne
14. Grandaddy - The Sophtware = Slump
15. Belle & Sebastian - Fold Your = Hands Child,=20 You Walk Like A Peasant
 
The only truly bad ones I bought this = year were=20 Fastball's The Harsh Light of Day (same problems as they ever had: 2 = lead=20 singers and only one of 'em can actually sing) and Everclear's SFAAM = vol. 2:=20 Good Time for a Bad Attitude (why oh why didn't you stop at vol.=20 1???)
 
--Lauren
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07049.57660080-- >From KiddMouz@aol.com Wed Dec 27 22:28:30 2000 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id WAA17697 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:28:29 -0600 (CST) From: KiddMouz@aol.com Received: from KiddMouz@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.db.e4cf95d (24903) for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:27:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:27:53 EST Subject: my 15 favorites of 2000 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_db.e4cf95d.277c1b49_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Reply-To: KiddMouz@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_db.e4cf95d.277c1b49_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. Kid A by Radiohead 2. Stankonia by Outkast 3. All Hands On The Bad One by Sleater-Kinney 4. Bachelor No. 2 by Aimee Mann 5. Relationship of Command by At The Drive-In 6. Stories From The City,Stories From The Sea by PJ Harvey 7. The Covers Record by Cat Power 8. Melody of Certain Damaged Lemons by Blonde Redhead 9. Supreme Clientele by Ghostface Killah 10. Selmasongs by Bjork 11. The W by Wu-Tang Clan 12. Lift Your Skinny Arms...by Godspeed You Black Emperor 13. Machina/The Machines of God by Smashing Pumpkins 14. Art Official Intelligence: Mosaic Thump by De La Soul 15. Rated R by Queens Of The Stone Age --part1_db.e4cf95d.277c1b49_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. Kid A by Radiohead
2. Stankonia by Outkast
3. All Hands On The Bad One by Sleater-Kinney
4. Bachelor No. 2 by Aimee Mann
5. Relationship of Command by At The Drive-In
6. Stories From The City,Stories From The Sea by PJ Harvey
7. The Covers Record by Cat Power
8. Melody of Certain Damaged Lemons by Blonde Redhead
9. Supreme Clientele by Ghostface Killah
10. Selmasongs by Bjork
11. The W by Wu-Tang Clan
12. Lift Your Skinny Arms...by Godspeed You Black Emperor
13. Machina/The Machines of God by Smashing Pumpkins
14. Art Official Intelligence: Mosaic Thump by De La Soul
15. Rated R by Queens Of The Stone Age --part1_db.e4cf95d.277c1b49_boundary-- >From cellophane808@hotmail.com Wed Dec 27 23:37:39 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f314.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.189]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA22202 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:37:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:37:08 -0800 Received: from 63.210.230.84 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 05:37:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.210.230.84] From: "Kelly Stitzel" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Best of 2000 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 00:37:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2000 05:37:08.0301 (UTC) FILETIME=[37F887D0:01C07090] Reply-To: cellophane808@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Okay, here's mine. No particular order. Most of the cds I bought this year weren't released this year, but I think this list is all 2000. Aimee Mann: Bachelor #2 (which, by the way, is #38 on the Customers 100 Best of 2000 at amazon.com. Magnolia is, like, #21) PJ Harvey: Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea Radiohead: Kid A Elliott Smith: Figure 8 Michael Penn: MP4 Travis: The Man Who U2: All That You Can't Leave Behind eels: Daisies of the Galaxy Madonna: Music (took some time, though) Juliana Hatfield: Beautiful Creature Jill Sobule: Pink Pearl Morcheeba: Fragments of Freedom Nina Gordon: Tonight and the Rest of My Life High Fidelity Soundtrack Magnolia Score (Jon Brion) Happy New Year y'all. Kelly "Opinions are like assholes: everyone has one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks." Henry Larson, "Home for the Holidays" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From happytown102@hotmail.com Thu Dec 28 00:54:12 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f150.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.150]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA25518 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 00:54:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:53:41 -0800 Received: from 32.100.64.218 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 06:53:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [32.100.64.218] From: "Frank Gargione" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: 2000 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 01:53:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2000 06:53:41.0393 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9AAC010:01C0709A] Reply-To: happytown102@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ohhh! Whoever added it, I forget, but good thinking with adding your biggest disappoinments of the year! I'm totally up for that!! I have to go with: -Cat Power 'The Covers Record' (puts me to sleep) -Travis 'The Man Who' (I really, really tried....) -En Vogue 'Masterpiece Theatre' (they need Dawn back!) -Pearl Jam 'Binaural' (does anyone else think they're over..?) -Smashing Pumpkins 'Machina' (kinda made their big break-up a little less painful) -Everclear 'Songs From an American Movie, vol. 2' (I also think they should have stopped with volume one) -Elliott Smith 'Figure 8' (and I was soooo excited about this one, too) I also numbered my favorites (I was doing it for another mailing list so I just thought I'd copy it on over...). Don't flame me for loving the Eminem CD: if it really bothers you, replace it with Morcheeba, Outkast, Sarah Harmer, At the Drive-in, Tracy Bonham, Matchbox Twenty, Elliott, Tracy Chapman, Badly Drawn Boy, Joan Osborne, Coldplay or Kina (your choice!). Let's not restart the Eminem war.... 1) Aimee Mann 'Bachelor No. 2' 2) Eels 'Daisies of the Galaxy' 3) Jill Sobule 'Pink Pearl' 4) Angie Aparo 'The American' 5) Belle & Sebastian 'Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant' 6) Nina Gordon 'Tonight and the Rest of My Life' 7) Joseph Arthur 'Come To Where I'm From' 8) Radiohead 'Kid A' 9) Poe 'Haunted' 10) Nelly Furtado 'Whoa, Nelly!' 11) Eminem 'The Marshall Mathers LP' 12) Fastball 'The Harsh Light of Day' 13) Greenday 'Warning' 14) Pink 'Can't Take Me Home' 15) The Cure 'Bloodflowers' 16) Caviar 'Caviar' 17) Jill Scott 'Who Is Jill Scott?' 18) Yo La Tengo 'And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out' 19) Lucy Pearl 'Lucy Pearl' 20) Everclear 'Songs From an American Movie vol. 1: Learning How to Smile' Holy god I buy too many CDs, Frank _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Thu Dec 28 04:36:02 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f277.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.152]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id EAA29643 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 04:36:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 02:35:31 -0800 Received: from 24.237.128.47 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:35:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.128.47] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: I'm offended dammit! Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 01:35:31 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2000 10:35:31.0342 (UTC) FILETIME=[E703CAE0:01C070B9] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Let me say that I am offended by those last comments made by Ian. The only person being *selfish* here is you, Ian. You HAVE attempted to speak for 500 people and by relegating Penn's UK following to the back of an envelope you attempt to speak for the entire population of the UK. You also called the lot of us, STUPID. It's selfish to whine about how YOU didn't enjoy the show and how it would have been better for YOU. There are a hell of a lot more interests involved in the busiuness decisions made by Michael Penn and Aimee Mann. Let...me...make...this...clear: You wouldn't have gotten even the ABBREVIATED Aimee Mann that you did if Michael weren't so positive about the whole touring thing. Aimee does not care for it that much. If you acting out of *prudence* or whatever the heck you said by not buying Penn's CD (and I didn't recommend buying it, you could have sampled a few songs that someone could have provided) then YOU made a choice. You took the risk of being *overwhelmed* by deciding not to familiarize yourself with Penn's work and then you whine about it. You shortchanged yourself. Frankly, your posts appear written by a person intelligent enough to absorb 10 new songs in a sitting. After reading set lists of about a dozen AV shows, did you really go in expecting to NOT hear about 10 Penn songs???!!! As for people leaving *ANGRY* after hearing too much of Penn, that's just hogwash, and Aimee would happily show them the door if they did. No one is trying to convince you of anything by force of will. We were exchanging ideas and offering some insight into the WHYS of your whiny assed query about how come there isn't less Penn. Here's a suggestion, so you aren't overwhelmed next time, when the comedian is introducing Penn's next set of songs, head out to the auditorium to prevent sensory overload. Honestly, Edmund, Terry and the few other UK Mannlisters who responded, THANK YOU. Let me ask this, when was the first time you saw Aimee? Was she opening for someone else? Did you want to see LESS of her then and more of the band you came to see? There had to be an initial introduction. P.S. If discovering new music (and when it's good I want as much of it as I can get my hands on) is overwhelming, I say "inundate me!" This list has been a huge resource, in that respect; and I am *overwhelmed* quite often thanks to it. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Thu Dec 28 04:56:14 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f113.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.113]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id EAA29838 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 04:56:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 02:56:12 -0800 Received: from 24.237.120.193 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:56:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.120.193] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: on a lighter note... Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 01:56:12 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2000 10:56:12.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAFB18F0:01C070BC] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I saw CASTAWAY (as have some of you Mannlisters), and since I have this Aimee filter (read: preoccupation), I remember thinking, "would this guy REALLY be trying to get off this Tropical Island if he had traveled with his DESERT ISLAND disc collection and his solar battery charger?!" I know that after seeing that film, I'll never be without a lighter or an Aimee disc when I fly! A little tiki hut, some cocunuts and Mann tunes. Desert Island or Paradise??? I was also driving today (techically yesterday) and listening to 96.3FM (Houston, Alaska), my retro station, and they played VOICES CARRY. That final line still gives me goosebumps. Next, they played the Police's EVERY LITTLE THING SHE DOES (I think that's the name of the song). I think it was very appropriate sequencing. However, has anyone listened to the lyrics of that song?! Stalker in waiting with issues. Anyway, VC is about the only Aimee they play on the radio here. Paul Currently being overwhelmed by David Gray _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From edmund@e-p-w.net Thu Dec 28 09:27:15 2000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id JAA13892 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:27:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.8.84.163] (helo=m006nb00) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.11 #5) id 14BexT-000GsX-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:27:11 +0000 Message-ID: <002a01c070e2$3f40b920$bb5908c3@m006nb00> Reply-To: "Edmund PW" From: "Edmund PW" To: References: Subject: Re: I'm offended dammit! Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:39:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Isn't it time we called a truce? As a mannlister, I knew exactly what I was going to get out of Acoustic Vaudeville and loved it to pieces. Of course I would love to have heard more Aimee songs, but then that's how I feel when I leave an Aimee Mann on-her-own concert. I think perhaps it's time to cut Ian some slack - although the show in London was promoted as Acoustic Vaudeville, the posters advertising the event around London featured a picture of Aimee and not of Michael. It's very possible that some people didn't know what they were going to get. Anyway, I thought it was a great show, spoiled only by Aimee's reluctance to play Ghost World! Paul, I first saw Aimee when she was headlining a show at the time of Whatever, as I suspect most UK based Aimee fans did. Season's greetings to everyone! >From bbllueaangel@hotmail.com Thu Dec 28 10:40:38 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f192.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.192]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id KAA17446 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:40:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:40:06 -0800 Received: from 12.16.202.145 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:40:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.16.202.145] From: "Libbie H." To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: I'm offended dammit! Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:40:06 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2000 16:40:06.0878 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5D9AFE0:01C070EC] Reply-To: bbllueaangel@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I just wanted to second and punctuate Paul's P.S.- This list is great for making new music discoveries- thanks all!! from me and Amoeba Records, who I dish out the $$ to ...my checking account, however, is not thanking you in the least. Enough said- Libbie >P.S. If discovering new music (and when it's good I want as much of it as >I >can get my hands on) is overwhelming, I say "inundate me!" This list has >been a huge resource, in that respect; and I am *overwhelmed* quite often >thanks to it. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Thu Dec 28 11:20:54 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA19489 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:20:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from hfpyz ([12.79.65.183]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001228172023.YWN2234.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@hfpyz>; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 17:20:23 +0000 Message-ID: <028c01c070f2$755d01c0$5b404f0c@hfpyz> From: "beachbum13" To: "Mannlist" , "Paul Barras" Subject: Thanks All? Thanks Paul??? Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:20:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0289_01C070C8.8888A300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Reply-To: lbigetwet@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0289_01C070C8.8888A300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>This list is great for making new music discoveries- thanks all!! <<< Thanks all??? I wish people like Paul would shut up and keep his = dicoveries to himself! This past year Paul has single handedly cost me = my winter vacation to Florida! Try this, listen to her, check out this = CD.... Bah Humbug! Check this out, I'M BROKE! beachbum13 or should I say beachbroke13 PS. I can't wait for my latest order from CDnow to get here! PPS My Mom always said you never waste money when you spend it on = yourself! ------=_NextPart_000_0289_01C070C8.8888A300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
>>>This list is great for making new music discoveries- = thanks=20 all!! <<<
 
Thanks all??? I wish people like Paul would shut up and keep his = dicoveries=20 to himself! This past year Paul has single handedly cost me my winter = vacation=20 to Florida! Try this, listen to her, check out this CD.... Bah Humbug! = Check=20 this out, I'M BROKE!
 
beachbum13 or should I say beachbroke13
 
PS. I can't wait for my latest order from CDnow to get here!
 
PPS My Mom always said you never waste money when you spend it on=20 yourself!
------=_NextPart_000_0289_01C070C8.8888A300-- >From bacheloretteno2@hotmail.com Thu Dec 28 12:30:22 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f11.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA22425 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:30:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:29:50 -0800 Received: from 64.161.58.22 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 18:29:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.161.58.22] From: "Kristina Wilcox" To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: on a lighter note... Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:29:50 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2000 18:29:50.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A374A70:01C070FC] Reply-To: bacheloretteno2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >I was also driving today (techically yesterday) and listening to 96.3FM >(Houston, Alaska), my retro station, and they played VOICES >CARRY. Paul's comment reminded me that I heard "VC" in Coco's on Tuesday night. Remarkably, that was my first Coco's dining experience and I must say, if they always have good piped-in music, I'll go there more often! :-) ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister (with a new e-mail address because my folders were too full at the other one) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From Craigmacneil@aol.com Thu Dec 28 15:59:45 2000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA07615 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:59:44 -0600 (CST) From: Craigmacneil@aol.com Received: from Craigmacneil@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id i.bc.e45b8ca (2168); Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:59:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:59:11 EST Subject: Re: I'm offended dammit! To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bc.e45b8ca.277d11af_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 171 Reply-To: Craigmacneil@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_bc.e45b8ca.277d11af_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone. I'm sifting through weeks and weeks on unread mail, and the only thing that's irritated me enough is the opinion that Michael Penn shouldn't be "hogging" the shows. I like the shows evenly split, and I prefer Acoustic Vaudeville to Aimee's solo acoustic shows. More zip and variety. Plus, I hope Patton is coming to the BOston shows. He's my new favorite comedian. I usually hate comics, but Patton is a scream. There is some kind of natural anger in his delivery that makes it so god. Hi to aNYONe I haven't written in a long time, will soon Craig Howard Stern Rules, and Aimee Should be a guest on his show. If you disagree, I don't care. :) --part1_bc.e45b8ca.277d11af_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone.
I'm sifting through weeks and weeks on unread mail, and the only thing that's
irritated me enough is the opinion that Michael Penn shouldn't be "hogging"
the shows.  I like the shows evenly split, and I prefer Acoustic Vaudeville
to Aimee's solo acoustic shows.  More zip and variety.  Plus, I hope Patton
is coming to the BOston shows.  He's my new favorite comedian.  I usually
hate comics, but Patton is a scream. There is some kind of natural anger in
his delivery that makes it so god.
Hi to aNYONe I haven't written in a long time, will soon
Craig
Howard Stern Rules, and Aimee Should be a guest on his show.   If you
disagree, I don't care. :) --part1_bc.e45b8ca.277d11af_boundary-- >From Creole1239@aol.com Thu Dec 28 16:48:46 2000 Received: from imo-r14.mail.aol.com (imo-r14.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA11951 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:48:45 -0600 (CST) From: Creole1239@aol.com Received: from Creole1239@aol.com by imo-r14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.d2.719791 (4558) for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 17:48:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 17:48:11 EST Subject: upcoming AV shows question To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: Creole1239@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Jill, Paul, Hausman, anyone know if there will be a comic on the east coast AV show dates? If so who? Also, tour band roster (buddy?)? Chris Flinchbaugh >From jillpw@hotmail.com Thu Dec 28 17:06:20 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f258.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.136]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA13379 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 17:06:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:05:49 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:05:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: upcoming AV shows question Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 18:05:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2000 23:05:49.0292 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7CDD2C0:01C07122] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN As far as I know the format is the same as earlier in the year so there should be a comic and I'm pretty sure Buddy is not on this tour. I will try to get definitive answers to your questions, though. Jill Chris asked: anyone know if there will be a comic on the east coast >AV show dates? If so who? Also, tour band roster (buddy?)? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From bbllueaangel@hotmail.com Thu Dec 28 17:58:23 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f264.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.139]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id RAA17510 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 17:58:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:57:52 -0800 Received: from 12.16.202.145 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:57:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.16.202.145] From: "Libbie H." To: Creole1239@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: upcoming AV shows question Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:57:52 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2000 23:57:52.0538 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD6757A0:01C07129] Reply-To: bbllueaangel@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN What about Michael Lockwood????????????????? >From: Creole1239@aol.com >Reply-To: Creole1239@aol.com >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: upcoming AV shows question >Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 17:48:11 EST > >Jill, Paul, Hausman, anyone know if there will be a comic on the east coast >AV show dates? If so who? Also, tour band roster (buddy?)? > >Chris Flinchbaugh > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From diri.gini@virgin.net Thu Dec 28 18:01:41 2000 Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA17571 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 18:01:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.68.50]) by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001229000355.RUJB255.mta1-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:03:55 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c0712a$8e492fa0$3244fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Ian F. Braidwood." To: References: Subject: Re: I'm offended dammit! Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:58:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: diri.gini@virgin.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Paul, I wonder if it's all possible for you to actually enter into an honest debate, rather than set up a series of Aunt Sallys to knock over. The points I put forward in my posts stand whether or not I was just being selfish as you insist, or whether my concerns are wider as I know they are. The reason you found my posts so offensive is that they were so well argued and have a potency quite independent of any advocacy I might add. If you want to raise any honest objection to my arguments, by all means do, but I'm not willing to stoop to swapping dogma and baseless accusations. I stand by what I said, because I feel and fear its true. (-: Ian :-) The road to wisdom? Well it's plain and simple to express: Err and err and err again, but less and less and less. - Piet Hein >From ironman@connexus.net.au Thu Dec 28 18:44:11 2000 Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA28659 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 18:44:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from connexus.net.au (mail.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.17]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA45609 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:44:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ironman@connexus.net.au) From: "Tony Iremonger" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: ironman@connexus.net.au To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:44:06 +1100 Subject: Acoustic Vaudeville - Pictures? X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6k, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3a4bde56.b225.0@connexus.net.au> X-User-Info: 203.34.175.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: ironman@connexus.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Is anyone able to point me to any photos (jpg's) of Mann/Penn/Commedian in AV mode? Thanks Tony Iremonger Melbourne, Australia >From sharbear@epix.net Thu Dec 28 20:01:40 2000 Received: from bean.epix.net (bean.epix.net [199.224.64.57]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA02305 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 20:01:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from epix.net (svcr-adsl-209-74-0-23.epix.net [209.74.0.23]) by bean.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with ESMTP id eBT21bL05384; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:01:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A4BF054.A1B866F6@epix.net> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:00:52 -0500 From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid X-Sender: "Sharon McDonnell Schmid" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Barras CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: The Christmas CD!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: sharbear@epix.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey Paul? If you think THAT'S bad, just wait until I see you in Philly!!! Paul Barras wrote: > This is just too easy. Sorry. I took a speed reading course once and I > think it improved my reading by a couple of words per hour. But I do > remember the *skim* part. I am always excited to get an email from > Sharbear, but I am at an airport lounge in Newark whisking thru my mail and > imagine my perverted mind racing when I skimmed: > > "Wow! I woke up this morning to the best surprise I could ever ask for...a > package But your gift put a permanent smile on my face...as > I'm certain it will for many others..." > > Hey, Sharon, you're easy!! If a CD puts a permanent smile on your face in > the A.M., Pete doesn't have to work too hard! You probably don't even muss > that beautiful head of hair, do ya?! heh, heh! I can appreciatae a good > disc in the morning too. (say that fast five times! ;-)) > > Ditto, Jack?!! You folks are way too easy. I think Aimee should have baked > us cookies! You know with a Dodo cookie cutter. > > >From: Sharon McDonnell Schmid > >>Subject: The Christmas CD!!! > >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:07:37 -0500 > > > >Wow! I woke up this morning to the best surprise I could ever ask > >for.....a package from SuperEgo with Aimee's Christmas cd inside!!!!!! > > > >THANK YOU, MR. HAUSMAN, AIMEE, MICHAEL and all involved with SuperEgo > >Records!!! Just knowing that Aimee's talent may reach a few more > >people as a result of the small effort on the Street Team's part is > >gratifying enough. But your gift put a permanent smile on my face...as > >I'm certain it will for many others. Thank you so much for your > >thoughtful gesture. Happy Holidays... > > > >love, > >sharon > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From mvfisk@gj.net Thu Dec 28 20:47:12 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA04814 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 20:47:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.64.15] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB9BAD700144; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:48:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3A4BFB09.6364A319@gj.net> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:46:33 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: More On Topic this time Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN     Thanks Paul for your supportive comment.  Ian, I respect your opinions but if you want to convince anyone of your side you have to be a LOT less confrontational.  I had a lot more I was going to say but I deleted it instead.  Didn't seem to serve any purpose and would only extend a debate that I'm sure most Mannlisters would probably hear no more of.  If you have further comments we could carry on off-list if you want.  I'm a good listener.
    I have never bought enough CDs to make a top 10 of the year list.  Instead I just buy a few that I know I will really love.  Although this list has made me aware of a lot of artists whose work I enjoy, and soon I will have to go on a shopping spree to pick them up.
    Here's part of my list:  Michael Penn (Resigned)... Jill Sobule... Black Crows and/or Chris Robinson... Elliott Smith... Juliana Hatfield... and of course the Eminem Christmas Album (just kidding!) >From jnmiles@eagle1st.com Fri Dec 29 00:39:49 2000 Received: from PDC.EAGLE1ST.COM ([216.204.29.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id AAA17573 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:39:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from nickmiles (unverified [216.204.2.33]) by PDC.EAGLE1ST.COM (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.179) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:30:52 -0500 Message-ID: <001901c07161$6923e3a0$2102ccd8@nickmiles> Reply-To: "Nick Miles" From: "Nick Miles" To: References: <001001c0712a$8e492fa0$3244fc3e@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: I'm offended dammit! Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:34:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian F. Braidwood." > The reason you found my posts so offensive is that they were so well argued > and have a potency quite independent of any advocacy I might add. Ian, The reason I find your posts so utterly obnoxious is that they are so pompous, long-winded, nonsensical, irrelevant AND have a potency quite independent of any advocacy you might add. -Nick >From jillpw@hotmail.com Fri Dec 29 12:44:07 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f165.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.165]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA22462 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:44:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 10:43:36 -0800 Received: from 64.16.159.34 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 18:43:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.16.159.34] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: A Hard Day's Night Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 13:43:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2000 18:43:36.0534 (UTC) FILETIME=[40C33760:01C071C7] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN If you are a Beatle's fan it is worth catching A Hard Day's Night in the theater. I went to see it last night, and though I've seen the movie about 50 times, it was a whole different experience seeing it on a big screen with a movie theater sound system. Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From bretlc@excite.com Fri Dec 29 13:39:09 2000 Received: from fortune.excite.com (fortune-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.203]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA08147 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 13:39:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from blizzard.excite.com ([199.172.148.158]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20001229193838.YAJ9490.fortune.excite.com@blizzard.excite.com> for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:38:38 -0800 Message-ID: <12751191.978118718353.JavaMail.imail@blizzard.excite.com> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:38:38 -0800 (PST) From: Brett Carter To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: my top cds Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 12.73.231.225 Reply-To: bretlc@excite.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I think this is my first post to the list, I'm a bit of a lurker, but hey, had to answer this one. My top CDs are in no following order: Aimee Mann - Bachelor #2 Michael Penn - MP4 Jon Brion - Meaningless Sonic Youth - NYC Ghosts and Flowers Liz Phair - "Beginning to See the Light" (the most beautiful song I have ever heard) PJ Harvey - Europe '93 (bootleg) Tom Waits - Mule Variations (I got it this year, so it counts) Radiohead - Kid A PJ Harvey - Stories from the City.... Poe - Haunted The Apples in stereo - The Discovery of a World Inside the Moone Travis - The Man Who Elastica - The Menace Cat Power - The Covers Record (it's not Moon Pix, but it's still very good) _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ >From indigo@mindspring.com Fri Dec 29 14:06:47 2000 Received: from mh1.dot.gov (mh1.dot.gov [152.119.25.210]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA09518 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 14:06:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from mdspxy02.dot.gov by mh1.dot.gov with ESMTP for mannlist@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 15:03:15 -0500 Received: from dsh-pc.egroups.com ([152.119.86.49]) by mdspxy02.dot.gov (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G6CIJ900.M9M; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 15:06:45 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001229145425.00d55220@mail.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 14:57:43 -0500 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Deb Subject: Top 10 CDs of 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: indigo@mindspring.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN My apologies in advance for those of you seeing this on more than one list. :-) I've posted my annual top 10 CDs of 2000 in my artist spotlight at , I hope some of you will follow links to check out things you might have an interest in, and support these fine artists. Feedback is welcome, and I always reserve the right to change it based on the plentiful feedback I always receive. :-) -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo >From Kenableken@aol.com Fri Dec 29 20:08:13 2000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA04076 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 20:08:13 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.dc.52e1e8 (4329) for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:07:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:07:41 EST Subject: My list To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66 Reply-To: Kenableken@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I just got back from three months in Costa Rica, so my memory of music from the past year is garbled...but here is my little list. Aimee Mann- Bachelor #2 Travis- The Man Who Almost Famous- Soundtrack Madonna- Music Editus- DecadaUna (a Costa Rican trio) Emmylou Harris- Red Dirt Girl Individual songs: No Doubt- "A Simple Kind of Life" The Corrs- "Breathless" Not from 2000 but new to me this year: Massive Attack- Mezzanine Concrete Blonde- Still in Hollywood >From missy@honeybeepub.com Fri Dec 29 23:01:03 2000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA10676 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA80001 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:00:46 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:02:26 -0800 Subject: Re: My list From: Missy Roback To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: missy@honeybeepub.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN yes! i don't like no doubt, but i love this song, almost entirely for the chorus, which is gorgeous. i just wish gwen stefani knew when to end the song. i only bought 2 new CDs this year -- bachelor #2 and U2's new one, so i won't even bother with a list... i also bought wilco's summerteeth (1999) and finally listened to the first CD of being there (a double CD, also by wilco), which i bought 3 or 4 years ago. still haven't listened to the second CD. i'm slow. > Individual songs: > No Doubt- "A Simple Kind of Life" >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 29 23:14:11 2000 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA12594 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:14:10 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.70.6787885 (4415) for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 00:13:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <70.6787885.277ec8fe@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 00:13:34 EST Subject: WXPN Countdown To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN They are up to #25, after two days. It's cool hearing entire albums on the radio. No Aimee yet. Top twenty tomorrow, maybe then. And if not Sunday? Top 10, Magnolia or B#2 being #1? Hopefully. Waiitng for WBJB, Lincroft NJ my local station to post it's top 90 albums on the web, out of listening range this week and couldn't hear it. Jill Souble's Pink Pearl made it to #3, pretty damm cool. Badlands was #37. So even if MP 4 dosen't chart, and I hope it does, Michael sort of made the countodwn. The wonderful Sarah Harmer made it to #32. Good job. I wish it had been higher though, You Were There is a great album. If anyone is listening to WFUV, if Aimee makes it, or Michael, care to post, this stuff is improtant. Andrea >From SonicVI@aol.com Fri Dec 29 23:18:50 2000 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id XAA15348 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:18:49 -0600 (CST) From: SonicVI@aol.com Received: from SonicVI@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.dc.541fde (4543) for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 00:18:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 00:18:13 EST Subject: Re: My list To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 109 Reply-To: SonicVI@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ok, here's my list in order: #1. Elliott Smith- Figure 8 #2. Jon Brion- Meaningless #3. Aimee Mann- Bachelor #2 #4. Beach Boys- Sunflower/Surf's Up reissue (I already had them both on cd but so what) #5. Wondermints- Bali (US release finally) #6. Michael Penn- MP4 #7. Logan's Sanctuary (sndtrk) #8. XTC- Wasp Star #9. David Bowie- Live at the Beeb #10. The Dandy Warhols- 13 Tales from Urban Bohemia Daniel. >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sat Dec 30 04:28:26 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f81.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.81]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id EAA10262 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 04:28:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 02:27:54 -0800 Received: from 24.237.115.102 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:27:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.115.102] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Fwd: Get a FREE Digital Music Download From Aimee Mann! Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 01:27:54 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2000 10:27:54.0816 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BBAF400:01C0724B] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Did anybody else receive this email? visit the page. (see bottom of email) they have a lot of free downloads, but i think this is very aggressive (in a good way) of Aimee from a marketing standpoint. Red Vines has been available before, but if they could tie in the Ghost World video soon, it would be nice. Missy, TWO cds all year?!!! *gasp* That's a slow WEEK for me!! And according to Jill and Geoff, I am missing like three whole DECADES (50s, 60s and 70s are nearly non-existent in my collection bot EVERY 80s trash you can think of!! yippee!) Aimee made #13 and Sarah Harmer #29 on this radio station Top 90 list as voted by the listeners. Check it out: www.wbjb.org/top90 (Here it is Andrea since you wondered aloud over on Sobule's list) And while radio surfing, Nelly Furtado Like a Bird (I think's the title) is belting on 103.1 (Anchorage). It's the first time I'm heard "her shit on the radio". ;-) BTW, I was listening to Petty's Full Moon Fever. What a classic!! Thanks to those Top 2000 lists, I discover The Cure has something new out??? Where have I been? BTW II, visit www.juliabrown.com. She's a new independent artist who is fabulous! Reminds me of Ani DiFranco crossed with Sheryl Crow, vocally and a gift with the lyric. >>Dear F. paul, >> >>CDNOW and Aimee Mann have a song just for you! The former 'Til Tuesday >>singer >>shines on "Red Vines," an essential cut from her album "Bachelor No. 2." >>The >>track is available as a FREE Digital Music Download. >> >>To get your FREE Aimee Mann Digital Music Download, go here: >> >>http://p04.com/t.d?IkXyroc-=/cdnow.com/freedownloads/from=rex:x:cdn:1229aimeb >> >> >>While you're in the store, be sure to check out Aimee's other fine work, >>including the celebrated Magnolia soundtrack. >> >>Happy shopping! >> >>Mike Krupit >>President and Chief Executive Officer of CDNOW >> >> >>P.S. - Be sure to keep your Favorite Artist list updated so that we can >>keep you notified of their new releases, advance orders and more. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sat Dec 30 04:34:51 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f107.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.107]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id EAA10359 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 04:34:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 02:34:20 -0800 Received: from 24.237.115.102 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:34:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.237.115.102] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: 70s *are* represented!! Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 01:34:20 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2000 10:34:20.0835 (UTC) FILETIME=[11D0C730:01C0724C] Reply-To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Thanks to Elizabeth, I ordered a couple of Randy Newman CDs so I *do* have something from the 70s and of course, Revolver and Abbey Road (60s, right?). And then there is everything to ever come out of Motown that my old man calls a "music collection." Paul np Cure "Galore" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sat Dec 30 12:43:13 2000 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA06213 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:43:12 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.3e.57583b5 (7319) for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 13:42:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3e.57583b5.277f869b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 13:42:35 EST Subject: Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Charting at #20 on WXPN's top 50 album chart. So I'm listening to the entire album on the radio. A little lower then I'd hoped for, but still excelent. That means B#2 will chart higher. The question is, how high. Go Aimee! Andrea >From wstewart@landmarknet.net Sat Dec 30 14:02:39 2000 Received: from dolomite.mint.net (dolomite.mint.net [216.227.128.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA10317 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:02:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from landmarknet.net (northconway-ppp-125.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.130]) by dolomite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06218 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:02:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3A4E3F4F.7D4B7F9C@landmarknet.net> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:02:23 -0500 From: Bill Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Subject: second show added Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: wstewart@landmarknet.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN For the Boston show-another show is listed on ticketmaster for the 20th kewl Bill >From wstewart@landmarknet.net Sat Dec 30 14:15:53 2000 Received: from dolomite.mint.net (dolomite.mint.net [216.227.128.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA10560 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:15:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from landmarknet.net (northconway-ppp-125.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.130]) by dolomite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09065 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:15:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3A4E426C.938D75D4@landmarknet.net> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:15:40 -0500 From: Bill Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Subject: ok, so I missed the announcement Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: wstewart@landmarknet.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Although I do think it's funny the second date is listed at Drivingsideways.com, but not aimeemann.com Bill >From speener-d@home.com Sat Dec 30 14:48:57 2000 Received: from mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (ha2.rdc2.pa.home.com [24.12.106.195]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA12263 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:48:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.40.42.88] by mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001230204850.MHHT13669.mail.rdc2.pa.home.com@[24.40.42.88]>; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:48:50 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:48:49 -0500 Subject: Magnolia Soundtrack From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist , Pennlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3061036129_905630_MIME_Part" Reply-To: speener-d@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3061036129_905630_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Came in #20 on the XPN top 50 of 2000. sl -- "Men go crazy in congregations, they only get better one by one." -- Sting --MS_Mac_OE_3061036129_905630_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Magnolia Soundtrack Came in #20 on the XPN top 50 of 2000.

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--MS_Mac_OE_3061036129_905630_MIME_Part-- >From aklein@neo.rr.com Sat Dec 30 15:39:44 2000 Received: from neo-dial.neo.rr.com (neo-dial.neo.rr.com [204.210.223.26]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA14248 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:39:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from buddy (a2-2c204.neo.rr.com [24.93.202.204]) by neo-dial.neo.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA02668 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:39:42 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Anita Klein" To: "MANNLIST" Subject: poll: if you could only buy one Aimee cd.... Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:38:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm introducing a former workmate to Aimee and he has listened to some clips from the internet and likes what he hears! (I'm now 5 hours away, so can't let him borrow my cd's anymore) He's a really thrifty guy and hates to spend money, so he asked me if I could only own one Aimee cd, what would it be? I really have trouble choosing, and thought it would be a good question to poll this list. So here it is: If you could only own one Aimee cd, what would it be? A. Whatever B. I'm With Stupid C. Bachelor #2 D. Specify Other Assuming I get some responses, I'll tally them and report back to the list. I'm wondering if others have the same problem choosing that I do or if there are clear favorites. Thanks and Happy New Year! Anita >From mikeh66@bellsouth.net Sat Dec 30 15:49:59 2000 Received: from mail0.lig.bellsouth.net (mail0.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.90]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id PAA14943 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:49:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from bellsouth.net (adsl-78-180-111.lft.bellsouth.net [216.78.180.111]) by mail0.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id QAA18930 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:49:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A4E583F.B8809170@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:48:48 -0600 From: M Hernandez X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mannlist Subject: Top 10 Albums of 2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mikeh66@bellsouth.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi guys and girls, Hope everyone out there is having a wonderful holiday season. Here are the albums I listened to this year that brought me the most happiness and my favorite track from each one.I'm enjoying everyone else's lists too.. 1. Aimee Mann : Bachelor Number 2 (Ghost World or Deathly) 2. U2 : All That You Can't Leave Behind (Wild Honey) 3. The Cure : Bloodflowers (Out of This World) 4. Belle & Sebastian : Fold Your Hands Child You Walk Like a Peasant (The Wrong Girl) 5. Various Artists : Serve Chilled 2 (The Immigrant by Nitin Sawhney) 6. Madonna : Music (Music) 7. Blur: Best of Blur (No Distance Left To Run) 8. Fatboy Slim : Halfway Between The Gutter and the Stars (Bird of Prey) 9. Coldplay : Parachutes (Yellow) 10. Sade : Lover's Rock (By Your Side) And the others that didn't come out this year: The Chill Out Album The Chill Out Album 2 Kruder and Dorfmeister: The K & D Sessions Dido: No Angel Pink Floyd : Dark Side of The Moon Bruce Springsteen : The Wild, The Innocent and The E Street Shuffle >From russnordmeyer@earthlink.net Sat Dec 30 16:19:46 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA16430 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:19:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from [209.179.251.150] (pool0405.cvx20-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.251.150]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10952 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:19:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012302219.OAA10952@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:15:55 -0800 Subject: My Top 10 and then some... From: "Russ Nordmeyer" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: russnordmeyer@earthlink.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ok, here goes... Aimee Mann, "Bachelor No. 2" Lazy Dog, "Deep House Music" (compilation disc put together by Benn Watt of Everything But the Girl) Travis, "The Man Who" ("Driftwood," and "Why Does it Always Rain on Me?") Emmylou Harris, "Red Dirt Girl" (especially the title track) Sasha and John Digweed, "Communicate" (Not trance, not house, a whole new sound in dance music) Sade, "Lovers Rock" Radiohead, "Kid A" U2, "All That You Can't Leave Behind" ("Walk On") Joni Mitchell, "Both Sides Now" The Wallflowers, "Breach" ("Hand Me Down," "Mourning Train"," and the 11th (hidden) track "Baby Bird") Best/Worst all in one: Madonna, "Music." When she's on ("Music," "What It Feels Like for a Girl," "Impressive Instant" and "Runaway Lover") she's on. But she was only on about 1/2 the time on this disc. WAY too much filler. Guilty Pleasure: Robbie Williams, "Sing When You're Winning." (The track, "Singing for the Lonely," is the best pop song Elton John never wrote. It ends with Mama's-and-Papa's-style harmonies layered over a drum-and-bass beat. Good stuff.) Happy New Year! Russ >From geoffl@pacbell.net Sat Dec 30 16:59:56 2000 Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id QAA18219 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:59:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from pacbell.net ([206.170.33.189]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G6E008Q2K4AMD@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:36:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:40:36 -0800 From: Geoff Subject: Re: Top 10 Albums of 2000 To: Mannlist Message-id: <3A4E6464.1FAC7985@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD compaq (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <3A4E583F.B8809170@bellsouth.net> Reply-To: geoffl@pacbell.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > And the others that didn't come out this year: > ... > Dido: No Angel > ... Believe it or not, my local newspaper says SoundScan reports Dido's album as being currently #13 locally and #27 nationally. Geoff Oakland, CA >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sat Dec 30 18:38:47 2000 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA01138 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 18:38:46 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id i.5f.ee6fa6b (4317); Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:38:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5f.ee6fa6b.277fd9ee@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:38:06 EST Subject: Re: Get a FREE Digital Music Download From Aimee Mann! To: sonichawk2@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 00-12-30 05:29:35 EST, sonichawk2@hotmail.com writes: > Aimee made #13 and Sarah Harmer #29 on this radio station Top 90 list as > voted by the listeners. Check it out: > > www.wbjb.org/top90 > > (Here it is Andrea since you wondered aloud over on Sobule's list) And > while radio surfing, Nelly Furtado Like a Bird (I think's the title) is > belting on 103.1 (Anchorage). It's the first time I'm heard "her shit on the > > radio". ;-) Thanks! Now I'm a little bummed, BJB played the hell out of B#2, even more then WXPN did, and the listeners weren't that impressed with it. Aimee's got such a big following at the Jersey shore, where did all the fans go? Still this is good. I wish Sarah had charted a bit higher too, but oh well. I like that Nelly Furtado song, I may buy it. Andrea >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sat Dec 30 18:50:46 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f296.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.174]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA01676 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 18:50:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:50:15 -0800 Received: from 63.25.157.122 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 00:50:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.25.157.122] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: poll: if you could only buy one Aimee cd.... Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:50:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2000 00:50:15.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3851150:01C072C3] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Its almost impossible to choose. I'm With Stupid is still my favorite but I would tell your friend to start with Bachelor No 2. Anita Klein asked: >If you could only own one Aimee cd, what would it be? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sat Dec 30 18:51:54 2000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id SAA01742 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 18:51:53 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.a.6e7df8f (4317) for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:51:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:51:17 EST Subject: Bangles-OT To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The Bangles will be on Dick Clarks Rocking New years Eve show, the second part of it, between 11:35 PM and 1:05 Pm EST. Can't wait. Happy New year everyone, Andrea >From Kenableken@aol.com Sat Dec 30 20:27:37 2000 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA04788 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 20:27:37 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id f.b8.fdc4d51 (9650); Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:27:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:27:00 EST Subject: Re: My Top 10 and then some... To: russnordmeyer@earthlink.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66 Reply-To: Kenableken@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN It's funny, your favorites were the ones I thought of as being the filler... I loved the ones that seemed to be from a different record altogether: "I Deserve It", "Nobody's Perfect", "Don't Tell Me," "Gone," etc. In a message dated 12/30/00 5:20:27 PM, russnordmeyer@earthlink.net writes: << Best/Worst all in one: Madonna, "Music." When she's on ("Music," "What It Feels Like for a Girl," "Impressive Instant" and "Runaway Lover") she's on. But she was only on about 1/2 the time on this disc. WAY too much filler. >> >From mcarlile@webtv.net Sat Dec 30 21:14:57 2000 Received: from mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.119]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA06002 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:14:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from storefull-108.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-108.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.195]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 52957676 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-108.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/mt.gso.26Feb98) id TAA23411; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:14:56 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRypdvBfTnPnHtO5GLftBV+h9LOhwIUetAV1VkbACcd6lhq/v4s/NeEVuY= From: mcarlile@webtv.net (Mark Carlile) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:14:56 -0600 (CST) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: survey and my top 10 of 2000 Message-ID: <13606-3A4EA4B0-740@storefull-108.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Reply-To: mcarlile@webtv.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Before I give my top 10, I'm curious as to what the collective opinion of the list is for this year, so I'd like to compile all your lists and come up with an unofficial 2000 Mannlist ranking. I'll go back and count the lists already posted, but if you haven't posted one yet (or have but just want to make sure you're not an "undercount"), send them to chapmansfriend@hotmail.com. Some of you number your lists and others don't, so I'll count both by times listed on a ballot (the Hall of Fame system) and on a point system for #1 to #10 lists (the MVP voting system). Thanks in advance for participating. Now, MY list: #1- Bachelor #2, Aimee Mann. (you may have heard of it) #2- Figure 8, Elliott Smith #3- Smile, The Jayhawks #4- MP4, Michael Penn #5- All Hands On The Bad One, Sleater-Kinney #6- Beautiful Creatures, Juliana Hatfield #7- The Man Who, Travis (would rank higher if it included their killer cover of ...Baby One More Time) #8- Crossing Muddy Waters, John Hiatt #9- All That You Can't Leave Behind, U2 #10- Sailing To Philadelphia, Mark Knopfler In particular, the last few rankings are based on a limited number of listenings. Nina Gordon nearly made it, and if cover art counted, THAT would have been the deciding factor ;-) In a month this list could look completely different. Probably no change at the top, though. Mark >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sat Dec 30 22:17:59 2000 Received: from web1401.mail.yahoo.com (web1401.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.165]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id WAA10200 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 22:17:58 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 13591 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Dec 2000 04:17:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20001231041757.13590.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.20] by web1401.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 20:17:57 PST Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 20:17:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: Re: on a lighter note... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-705178736-978236277=:11433" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-705178736-978236277=:11433 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I keep listening to my 80's station, but I've never heard VC on the radio :( But the other day I heard a "double exposure" of No Myth and Brave New World! yay! And once when I was driving to school I heard Red Vines! I sat in my car and listened to the whole thing and I was late :) Kristina Wilcox wrote: >I was also driving today (techically yesterday) and listening to 96.3FM >(Houston, Alaska), my retro station, and they played VOICES >CARRY. Paul's comment reminded me that I heard "VC" in Coco's on Tuesday night. Remarkably, that was my first Coco's dining experience and I must say, if they always have good piped-in music, I'll go there more often! :-) ~~ Kristina ~~ Central Coast Mannlister (with a new e-mail address because my folders were too full at the other one) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! --0-705178736-978236277=:11433 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I keep listening to my 80's station, but I've never heard VC on the radio :(  But the other day I heard a "double exposure" of No Myth and Brave New World! yay!  And once when I was driving to school I heard Red Vines!  I sat in my car and listened to the whole thing and I was late :)

  Kristina Wilcox <bacheloretteno2@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I was also driving today (techically yesterday) and listening to 96.3FM
>(Houston, Alaska), my retro station, and they played VOICES >CARRY.

Paul's comment reminded me that I heard "VC" in Coco's on Tuesday night.
Remarkably, that was my first Coco's dining experience and I must say, if
they always have good piped-in music, I'll go there more often! :-)

~~ Kristina ~~
Central Coast Mannlister
(with a new e-mail address because my folders were too full at the other
one)
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Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! --0-705178736-978236277=:11433-- >From sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sat Dec 30 23:21:56 2000 Received: from web1401.mail.yahoo.com (web1401.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.165]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with SMTP id XAA14111 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 23:21:56 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 17198 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Dec 2000 05:21:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20001231052155.17197.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.214.143.20] by web1401.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:21:55 PST Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:21:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Letostak Subject: "I've Had it" / Big Lebowski To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-437116466-978240115=:14725" Reply-To: sabrina1939@yahoo.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-437116466-978240115=:14725 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii does anyone know who "Dan" is in "I've Had it"? And if anyone doesn't know, Aimee has a bit part in The Big Lebowski. It's pretty funny - she speaks German in it. It's worth watching even w/out Aimee though :) --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! --0-437116466-978240115=:14725 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii does anyone know who "Dan" is in "I've Had it"?  And if anyone doesn't know, Aimee has a bit part in The Big Lebowski.  It's pretty funny - she speaks German in it.  It's worth watching even w/out Aimee though :)


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Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! --0-437116466-978240115=:14725-- >From Brwnshoe@aol.com Sun Dec 31 02:00:24 2000 Received: from imo-r16.mail.aol.com (imo-r16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id CAA19597 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 02:00:23 -0600 (CST) From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Received: from Brwnshoe@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.59.4f2aa73 (4533) for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 02:59:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <59.4f2aa73.27804173@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 02:59:47 EST Subject: Re: poll: if you could only buy one Aimee cd.... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 Reply-To: Brwnshoe@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/30/00 4:51:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, jillpw@hotmail.com writes: << Its almost impossible to choose. I'm With Stupid is still my favorite but I would tell your friend to start with Bachelor No 2 >> Hmm, I like "Whatever" the best. But, they're all great. Steve >From Pooley29@aol.com Sun Dec 31 08:21:05 2000 Received: from imo-r12.mail.aol.com (imo-r12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id IAA09912 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 08:21:05 -0600 (CST) From: Pooley29@aol.com Received: from Pooley29@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id 9.4b.583ee41 (15865); Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from web39.aolmail.aol.com (web39.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.15]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v77.31) with ESMTP; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:19:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:19:52 EST Subject: Re: poll: if you could only buy one Aimee cd.... To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown Message-ID: <4b.583ee41.27809a88@aol.com> Reply-To: Pooley29@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello, I have had 3 people who previously had not been too crazy about Aimee become converts once they listened to Magnolia. Although I'M WITH STUPID is my all time favorite, I've always had difficulty with getting people to warm up to Aimee. But Magnolia was an instant success with them. I would say that this is the CD to start with for someone who really isn't that familiar with Aimee. John Poole(who got has been waiting for about 5 years for new music from SADE!!! Aimee is on hold for a bit.) >From jillpw@hotmail.com Sun Dec 31 11:46:58 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f306.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.184]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id LAA14209 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 11:46:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:46:27 -0800 Received: from 63.25.157.165 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:46:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.25.157.165] From: "Jill Weisenfeld" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: My 2000 List Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:46:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2000 17:46:27.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[99949290:01C07351] Reply-To: jillpw@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN While 2000 was a great year for Aimee, I don't think it was a very good year for music, overall. In putting together my list I kept picking up discs that were released in '99 (like Travis, but since other people included that one in their lists....) 1. Aimee Mann - Bachelor No. 2 2. Travis - The Man Who 3. U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind 4. Badley Drawn Boy - The Hour of Bewilderbeast 5. Jill Sobule - Pink Pearl 6. Michael Penn - MP4 7. Barenaked Ladies - Maroon 8. Mazarin - Watch It Happen 9. Elliott Smith - Figure 8 10. Paul Melancon - Slumberland Happy New Year, everyone!!! Jill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From angusmcg@ix.netcom.com Sun Dec 31 12:40:12 2000 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id MAA16613 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:40:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from 26140 (user-2iniv79.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.124.233]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA31326 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 13:40:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001231103848.00d7eba0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: angusmcg@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:49:35 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Angela McGregor Subject: My top ten list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_5365256==_.ALT" Reply-To: angusmcg@ix.netcom.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --=====================_5365256==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Bah, humbug. I didn't buy all that many records this year. And of those I did, I didn't really care that much for more than about ten. Way too many of them are by people I have met or who are my husband (see number one), and I can't decide whether that means I'm getting old and not as into pop music or just lead a charmed life. The only one on this list that isn't available from Amazon.com is Jon Brion's record -- I hear that may change in the next couple of months. Meanwhile -- for those of you who are curious, especially given his enormous contributions to Aimee's first solo records (among which, "I'm With Stupid" would be my pick for most essential), try checking www.jonbrion.com. One day, artistdirect will get their act together and start selling it. Until then, it's available at the door at Largo. A few notables that didn't make the cut get mentioned later... 1. "Jesus of the apes" -- the Solipsistics. This is the first year I've given the number one spot to the Solips. This year they made it because this record has "Angel of Gracie Square". Also, Randy Brion did a brilliant job with the horn arrangement on "Any Requests", and "That Kills Me" has been, for years and years, my favorite of the many Jeff McGregor/Jon Brion tunes. What a lyric. 2. "Bachelor #2" -- Aimee Mann. A songwriting genius. Favorite songs: "You Do", "Ghost World". Actually, all of them. 3. Colin Hay, "Going Somewhere". Colin's stuff makes me weep instantly. "Beautiful World" is my favorite song ever about post-addiction recovery. Note to skeptics: I do not own, and never have owned, a Men at Work album. 4. Anton Barbeau, "17th Century Fuzzbox Blues". Anton keeps getting better. "Another Stoned Piano" is a big favorite around here, because it's simple and devastating and you can't get the chorus out of your head. 5. "Meaningless", Jon Brion. It's been overhyped and no doubt over-rated. The critics and Ebay addicts got just enough copies of this record to mythologize it as everything from The Lost Todd Rundgren record to something the Beatles would have been proud of, and no record could have lived up to that. Nevertheless, It has "Ruin My Day' and it's finally out and that's good enough for me. 6. "Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia" -- the Dandy Warhols. Fun, fun, fun. 7. "My Music Loves You (Even if I don't) -- Mike Randle. Good songs, and the record has this nice, lush sound to it. Plus the cover is great. 8. Radiohead, "Kid A". Good music to code by. There's something subversive about an album this self-involved and self-indulgent selling this many copies. And that's a good thing! 9. Michael Penn, "MP4: Days Since a Lost Time Accident". This is nowhere near as good as "March", and maybe nothing he does again will be, but it's got its moments. He's best when he's funny. Also, this may be the best title of the year, which is saying a lot when you consider the fact that Ricky Martin came out with something called "Sound Loaded". 10. The Januaries, "The Januaries". I like the sound of this one, too. This was a good year for records with horns -- witness the intro to "Love has Flown". The best thing this band does is not on this record, though -- it's an amazing cover of Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" they do in their live act. I hear it's available on Napster. Stuff that didn't make the list for various reasons: Elliot Smith's "Figure Eight" (just nowhere near as good as his earlier work), The Eels -- "Daises of the Galaxy" (nothing will live up to "Electroshock Blues", I guess, but this didn't even come close). That new U2 record, although I kind of like the chorus to the single. Lyrically, they've turned their backs on materialism and toward the more spiritual matters. In reality, they've cranked out one more record that sounds just like their other records just to rake in the bucks. Go figure! Honorable mentions: The Beatles, "One". Specifically "Penny Lane". And that's it. I'm sure I missed something, and will probably buy at least one fave record of 2000 after the first of the year. Oh well. Angela McGregor www.frigidisk.com --=====================_5365256==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Bah, humbug. I didn't buy all that many records this year. And of those I did, I didn't really care that much for more than about ten.   Way too many of them are by people I have met or who are my husband (see number one), and I can't decide whether that means I'm getting old and not as into pop music or just lead a charmed life.  The only one on this list that isn't available from Amazon.com is Jon Brion's record -- I hear that may change in the next couple of months.  Meanwhile -- for those of you who are curious, especially given his enormous contributions to Aimee's first solo records (among which, "I'm With Stupid" would be my pick for most essential), try checking www.jonbrion.com.  One day, artistdirect will get their act together and start selling it.  Until then, it's available at the door at Largo.

A few notables that didn't make the cut get mentioned later...

1. "Jesus of the apes" -- the Solipsistics. This is the first year I've
given the number one spot to the Solips. This year they made it because
this record has "Angel of Gracie Square".  Also, Randy Brion did a brilliant
job with the horn arrangement on "Any Requests", and "That Kills Me" has
been, for years and years, my favorite of the many Jeff McGregor/Jon Brion
tunes. What a lyric.

2. "Bachelor #2" -- Aimee Mann. A songwriting genius. Favorite
songs: "You Do", "Ghost World". Actually, all of them.

3. Colin Hay, "Going Somewhere". Colin's stuff makes me weep
instantly. "Beautiful World" is my favorite song ever about post-addiction
recovery.  Note to skeptics:  I do not own, and never have owned, a Men at Work album.

4. Anton Barbeau, "17th Century Fuzzbox Blues". Anton keeps getting
better. "Another Stoned Piano" is a big favorite around here, because it's
simple and devastating and you can't get the chorus out of your head.

5. "Meaningless", Jon Brion. It's been overhyped and no doubt
over-rated. The critics and Ebay addicts got just enough copies of this
record to mythologize it as everything from The Lost Todd Rundgren record
to something the Beatles would have been proud of, and no record could have
lived up to that. Nevertheless, It has "Ruin My Day' and it's finally out
and that's good enough for me.

6. "Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia" -- the Dandy Warhols. Fun, fun,
fun.

7. "My Music Loves You (Even if I don't) -- Mike Randle. Good songs, and
the record has this nice, lush sound to it. Plus the cover is great.

8. Radiohead, "Kid A". Good music to code by. There's something
subversive about an album this self-involved and self-indulgent selling
this many copies. And that's a good thing!

9. Michael Penn, "MP4: Days Since a Lost Time Accident". This is nowhere
near as good as "March", and maybe nothing he does again will be, but it's
got its moments. He's best when he's funny. Also, this may be the best
title of the year, which is saying a lot when you consider the fact that
Ricky Martin came out with something called "Sound Loaded".

10. The Januaries, "The Januaries". I like the sound of this one,
too. This was a good year for records with horns -- witness the intro to
"Love has Flown". The best thing this band does is not on this record,
though -- it's an amazing cover of Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" they do in
their live act. I hear it's available on Napster.

Stuff that didn't make the list for various reasons: Elliot Smith's
"Figure Eight" (just nowhere near as good as his earlier work), The Eels --
"Daises of the Galaxy" (nothing will live up to "Electroshock Blues", I
guess, but this didn't even come close). That new U2 record, although I
kind of like the chorus to the single. Lyrically, they've turned their
backs on materialism and toward the more spiritual matters. In reality,
they've cranked out one more record that sounds just like their other
records just to rake in the bucks. Go figure!

Honorable mentions: The Beatles, "One". Specifically "Penny Lane".

And that's it. I'm sure I missed something, and will probably buy at least
one fave record of 2000 after the first of the year. Oh well.



Angela McGregor
www.frigidisk.com --=====================_5365256==_.ALT-- >From info@paulmelancon.com Sun Dec 31 13:30:52 2000 Received: from goliath2.primary-server.net (goliath2.primary-server.net [216.71.84.13]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA18079 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 13:30:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from cc807453a (cc807453-a.chmbl1.ga.home.com [24.4.119.78]) by goliath2.primary-server.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA30955 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 13:28:17 -0600 From: "Paul Melancon" To: Subject: My top ten list Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:23:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001231103848.00d7eba0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: info@paulmelancon.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Well, I can't say that the year was hard for music, sicne there are still plenty of discs I haven't been able to pick up yet. But I'm always spending the year catching up, which is why I can only offer up my top 9 for 2000 (so much of what I bought this year is from earlier). So what you're really ending up with is the discs I bought this year from 200, in the order I liked them. But, regardless: 9) Kenny Howes - The Right Idea 8) Tim Finn - Say It Is So 7) Eels - Daisies of the Galaxy 6) Elliott Smith - Figure 8 5) Aimee Mann - Bachelor No. 2 4) Nash Kato - Debutante 3) The Sun Sawed In 1/2 - Bewilderbeest 2) Michael Penn - MP4 1) XTC - Wasp Star (Apple Venus volume 2) I'll add that I was surprised not to see XTC on anyone else's list. But thanks to Jill for putting me in her list. That was a nice surprise. Happy New Year everybody! Paul Melancon http://www.paulmelancon.com http://www.mp3.com/paulmelancon the new CD Slumberland from M Records, in stores and at online retailers NOW >From SonicVI@aol.com Sun Dec 31 13:33:33 2000 Received: from imo-r19.mail.aol.com (imo-r19.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.73]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA18210 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 13:33:33 -0600 (CST) From: SonicVI@aol.com Received: from SonicVI@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.a4.e0d838f (657) for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:32:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:32:54 EST Subject: Re: My top ten list To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 109 Reply-To: SonicVI@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/31/00 12:40:48 PM CST, angusmcg@ix.netcom.com writes: > 5. "Meaningless", Jon Brion. It's been overhyped and no doubt > over-rated. The critics and Ebay addicts got just enough copies of this > record to mythologize it as everything from The Lost Todd Rundgren record > to something the Beatles would have been proud of, and no record could have > lived up to that. Nevertheless, It has "Ruin My Day' and it's finally out > and that's good enough for me. > I don't think it's overrated, it's totally brilliant imo. When I first got a copy last spring I couldn't go a day for months without having to listen to it. It' s not worth $300, but then what cd is? > 9. Michael Penn, "MP4: Days Since a Lost Time Accident". This is nowhere > near as good as "March", and maybe nothing he does again will be, but it's > got its moments. He's best when he's funny. I think Resigned and MP4 are way better than March, the only song I even really like on March is No Myth. > Stuff that didn't make the list for various reasons: Elliot Smith's > "Figure Eight" (just nowhere near as good as his earlier work), > I think Figure 8 is every bit as good as his previous records, in fact I think may just be my favorite, which is a hard decision because I love all of his records and he's probably my favorite musician right now. Not flaming, just stating opposing opinions. Daniel. >From SonicVI@aol.com Sun Dec 31 13:35:48 2000 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA18392 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 13:35:47 -0600 (CST) From: SonicVI@aol.com Received: from SonicVI@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.c5.ca57139 (657) for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:35:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:35:13 EST Subject: Re: My top ten list To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 109 Reply-To: SonicVI@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/31/00 1:31:33 PM CST, info@paulmelancon.com writes: > I'll add that I was surprised not to see XTC on anyone else's list. But > thanks to Jill for putting me in her list. That was a nice surprise. > It was on my list. Though, I much prefer Apple Venus vol 1 to Wasp Star. Daniel. >From speener-d@home.com Sun Dec 31 13:39:01 2000 Received: from mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (ha2.rdc2.pa.home.com [24.12.106.195]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id NAA18796 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 13:39:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.40.42.88] by mail.rdc2.pa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001231193855.HUU13669.mail.rdc2.pa.home.com@[24.40.42.88]>; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 11:38:55 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:38:55 -0500 Subject: Re: survey and my top 10 of 2000 From: Spencer Lewis To: Mark Carlile , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13606-3A4EA4B0-740@storefull-108.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: speener-d@home.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Here we go - Thanks for getting the ball rolling. In stream of conciousness order: Michael Penn - MP4 Alex Lloyd - Black the Sun Aimee Mann - Bachelor No. 2 Juliana Hatfield - Beautiful Creature Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour of the Bewilderbeast Travis - The Man Who Elliot Smith - Figure 8 Bettie Seveert - Private Suite Joseph Arthur - Come to Where I'm From Jeff Buckley - Mystery White Boy So it was hard to take Radiohead and Coldplay of the list, but Joseph Arthur's cd jumped in late to the top of the list. -- "Men go crazy in congregations, they only get better one by one." -- Sting > From: mcarlile@webtv.net (Mark Carlile) > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:14:56 -0600 (CST) > To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > Subject: survey and my top 10 of 2000 > > Before I give my top 10, I'm curious as to what the collective opinion > of the list is for this year, so I'd like to compile all your lists and > come up with an unofficial 2000 Mannlist ranking. I'll go back and count > the lists already posted, but if you haven't posted one yet (or have but > just want to make sure you're not an "undercount"), send them to > chapmansfriend@hotmail.com. Some of you number your lists and others > don't, so I'll count both by times listed on a ballot (the Hall of Fame > system) and on a point system for #1 to #10 lists (the MVP voting > system). Thanks in advance for participating. > >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sun Dec 31 14:21:13 2000 Received: from imo-r11.mail.aol.com (imo-r11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA20129 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:21:13 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.f6.62a2952 (4575) for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 15:20:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 15:20:37 EST Subject: WXPN To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: AWeiss4338@aol.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN B#2 came in at #7. Was hoping for more but oh well, I'm very happy about this. I wonder who will be #1. They didin't play How Am I Diffrent when they played the CD. I had a feeling they wouldn't, too many 'fucks' for airplay. Andrea >From cellophane808@hotmail.com Sun Dec 31 14:22:16 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f141.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.141]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA20167 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:22:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:21:45 -0800 Received: from 64.154.102.120 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:21:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.102.120] From: "Kelly Stitzel" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: My Top 10 and then some... Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 15:21:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2000 20:21:45.0503 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BB012F0:01C07367] Reply-To: cellophane808@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN As far as Madonna's disc goes, I do agree that the whole album isn't as good as some of the tracks. My faves are Don't Tell Me, What it Feels Like for a Girl, Music, and Gone. I didn't like Gone at first, then I heard Juliana Hatfield cover it when she opened for Aimee in Columbus and Cleveland and I got a whole new appreciation for it. It sounds WONDERFUL acoustic. Kelly _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >From LoopyJAJ@cs.com Sun Dec 31 14:32:12 2000 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id OAA20669 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:32:10 -0600 (CST) From: LoopyJAJ@cs.com Received: from LoopyJAJ@cs.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id g.d0.f869f5d (4398) for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 15:31:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 15:31:32 EST Subject: My Top Five for 2000 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 103 Reply-To: LoopyJAJ@cs.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Just back to the list after a little break, This is my list for 2000 It certainly has been a slim year for great music so I've only come up with a list of five. 1. "Bachelor No. 2 / Magnolia" - Aimee (Naturally) - I generally put both CDs in the stereo and hit shuffle so these two count as one since I've played them about equally. 2. "Music" - Madonna ("What it feels like for a girl" is the stand out here) 3. "Hurricane Child" - Lori B (Everyone should check her out at www.lorib.net) ~ great live show too 4. "What Might Be" - Mare Winningham (Yes the actress I have been looking for this CD since 1992 and finally found it -- great stuff here) 5. "Central Reservation" - Beth Orton (Finally bought it this year) Loopy >From mvfisk@gj.net Sun Dec 31 20:46:10 2000 Received: from gj.net (mail.gj.net [216.169.77.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA13928 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:46:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.64.231] by gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AFDFB9760146; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 19:47:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3A4FEF66.C70F82B8@gj.net> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 19:45:58 -0700 From: Michael Fisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MANNLIST Subject: Only one CD!/Happy New Millenium Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN     Okay, let's say I am going to live on a tropical island commune and can only take one CD by Aimee Mann.  Wait, it doesn't matter what I take, because the other residents are all Mannlisters, too, and they'll have the ones I don't take!  Let's start over.  I can only bring one Aimee Mann CD into the fallout shelter after the nuclear holocaust.  This is a grim scenario that will be brightened immensely by my choice of I'm With Stupid.
    However, Anita, for your friend's purposes, I think a great intro would be either Bachelor #2 or Whatever.  Either album is a great introduction to Aimee Mann's work (see my reviews on epinions.com -- shameless plug!)  This is a very difficult choice, because I would be happy with any choice (in either scenario), but sad to lose so many other favorites on different albums.  I think my final choice in your poll will have to be Bachelor #2 because it is the newest album (I don't count Ultimate Collection).
    I wish each and every one of you, from Paul B., Shar (Mrs. Paul B.), Paul M., Missy, Jill, Salt (if you're there), Russ, to Alex, Darcy, Sir Barb, (by the way I saw a guy named Laurie on tv last night...and who could forget the wonderful baritone George Beverly Shea), and yes most certainly you too, Ian... a safe and Happy New Year, New Century, and New Millenium.  May you live long and prosper!
    And most especially, thank you Aimee Mann, Michael Penn, and Michael Hausman, and all your Satellites.  You have enriched my life beyond measure!  I hope 2001 is even better than 2000 for you all!

Michael >From shazza12@hotmail.com Sun Dec 31 20:58:26 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f167.hotmail.com [216.32.181.167]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id UAA14581 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:58:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 18:57:55 -0800 Received: from 203.134.168.67 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 02:57:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.134.168.67] From: "Shanon Shah" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Best of 2000 (revision) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 02:57:55 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2001 02:57:55.0488 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3B3F200:01C0739E] Reply-To: shazza12@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Happy New Year everyone! As of the 31st of December, 2000, these were my favourites among the year's releases, in no particular order. (I'm in Melbourne, Australia, so some of these may have been releases in the States in 1999): 1. Bachelor No. 2 - Aimee Mann 2. Music - Madonna 3. Selmasongs - Bjork 4. When the Pawn.... - Fiona Apple 5. Odyssey #5 - Powderfinger 6. The Best of Blur - Blur 7. Original Soundtrack - Snatch (Stealin' Stones and Breakin' Bones) New to me in 2000 & much loved: 1. A Few Small Repairs - Shawn Colvin 2. Famous Blue Raincoat - Jennifer Warnes (I love Leonard!) 3. Dummy - Portishead 4. To Bring You My Love - PJ Harvey (should I get her new one?) Singles: 1. Save Me - Aimee Mann 2. Music - Madonna 3. Bye Bye Bye - NSync 4. Life is a Rollercoaster - Ronan Keating 5. Mr. E's Beautiful Blues - Eels 6. Why Does It Always Rain On Me? - Travis (should I get their album?) 7. No Man's Woman - Sinead O'Connor (should I get hers?) 8. Let's Get Loud - Jennifer Lopez 9. These Days - Powderfinger And I'm still laughing from watching "Chicken Run" three days ago. How good is it? I think I'm pissing everyone off because every five minutes I'm going: "I don't want to be a pie!" Cheers everyone, and have a good year ahead of you. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. >From shazza12@hotmail.com Sun Dec 31 21:05:53 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f87.hotmail.com [216.32.181.87]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.28) with ESMTP id VAA14994 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 21:05:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 19:05:22 -0800 Received: from 203.134.168.67 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 03:05:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.134.168.67] From: "Shanon Shah" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Oversight Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 03:05:22 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2001 03:05:22.0580 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE30C540:01C0739F] Reply-To: shazza12@hotmail.com Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.09/990901/11:28 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN How could I how could I how could I how could I HOW BLOODY COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN "All That You Can't Leave Behind" by U2!!!!!!!!! And "Beautiful Day"!!!!!!!!! OK if I could only buy ONE Aimee Mann CD, it would be Bachelor #2. I love all Aimee's albums, but I think each one supersedes the previous one in terms of songwriting prowess and content, don't you think? So, Bachelor #2 is obviously THE one to get if you can only get one. PS - That's the hallmark of all great artists, to make you feel as though they only get better with each new work. Some examples I can think of, other than Aimee - Madonna, The Beatles, Tori Amos, Bjork, Powderfinger..... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Cut here ------------------------------