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Part 1/1, total size 944336 bytes: ------------------------------ Cut here ------------------------------ >From MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Wed Dec 1 10:00:22 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA13001 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:00:20 -0600 (CST) From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Received: from MnnyMoNHak@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.85720b91 (4331) for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:58:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.85720b91.25769f9c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:58:20 EST Subject: Re: hit and miss To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN <> Unfortunately, "Save Me" isn't eligible for an Oscar either, since it wasn't written for "Magnolia." Which is too bad, since it could have a good shot otherwise. I've seen the movie, and "Save Me" is used in truly stunning fashion--one of the most striking uses of a song in a feature film I've ever seen. >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Wed Dec 1 10:29:55 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA16143 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:29:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Wed, 01 Dec 1999 10:34:55 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.25 [206.8.2.25] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 5DF8403DA7F311D3AE39006097D4776C for ; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 10:34:54 -0600 Date: 01 Dec 99 10:31:05 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: hit and miss To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991201103455.5df8403da7f311d3ae39006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 63517047-A7F311D3-AE390060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id KAA16145 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: hit and miss I thought the pretense, at least, was that "Save Me" was indeed written for the movie. Jack On 12/1/99, MnnyMoNHak wrote: Unfortunately, "Save Me" isn't eligible for an Oscar either, since it wasn't written for "Magnolia." Which is too bad, since it could have a good shot otherwise. I've seen the movie, and "Save Me" is used in truly stunning fashion--one of the most striking uses of a song in a feature film I've ever seen. >From Salt5@aol.com Wed Dec 1 11:08:26 1999 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA20794 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:08:19 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.1024ad37 (4560); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:07:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.1024ad37.2576afda@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:07:38 EST Subject: Stop! You're both right! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Geez, are we back to that chicken-and-the-egg thing with "Save Me"? Let's look at this in a different way. "Save Me" has never been issued in any format prior to Magnolia's soundtrack. Aimee has been working on this song since 1996, the same era that she first began to work with Paul Thomas Anderson. She has often credited him as a major influence on her work (and vice versa). "Hard Eight" (also by PTA) was released in 1997 (?) and it marked their first official collaboration together. "Christmastime" could easily have been considered for an Oscar because it was created during the period of production and post-production for "Hard Eight". How is "Save Me" different? It was written during a period of intense cross-pollination between a director and a songwriter and, years later, it figures prominently in the soundtrack for the film we know now as "Magnolia". The four year "break" in "continuity" is a bit deceptive. "Magnolia" is rolling out in December 1999 but I'm pretty sure that PTA started working with the script and pre-production for "Magnolia" many, many years ago. But I could be wrong. I'm often wrong about things. John >From jase@iaw.on.ca Wed Dec 1 12:56:18 1999 Received: from iaw.on.ca (IDENT:root@canal.iaw.on.ca [209.5.112.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id MAA01448 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:56:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from jase.iaw.on.ca(src addr [209.5.117.140]) (1039 bytes) by iaw.on.ca via sendmail with P\:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:55:47 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1998-Dec-27) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991201185043.0073ba5c@iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 13:50:43 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: Re: hit and miss Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >Unfortunately, "Save Me" isn't eligible for an Oscar either, since it wasn't >written for "Magnolia." Which is too bad, since it could have a good shot >otherwise. I've seen the movie, and "Save Me" is used in truly stunning >fashion--one of the most striking uses of a song in a feature film I've ever >seen. According to the article in Billboard a few weeks ago, both "Save Me" and "You Do" were written expressly for the movie, and this information came right from Aimee's mouth. Therefore, I think "Save Me" would be eligible for an Oscar. Jase >From Kenableken@aol.com Wed Dec 1 14:09:51 1999 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA08274 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:09:44 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.2295e04a (4254) for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:09:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.2295e04a.2576da5b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:08:59 EST Subject: Re: hit and miss To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Regarding Acadamy rules...they have a history of breaking them when they feel like it, or when they simply don't know any better. There are many recent Best Song Oscars that have gone to songs that had been sitting around unrecorded for years, or sometimes even recorded but "unknown." "The Rose"...for example. >From TK03@aol.com Wed Dec 1 16:01:14 1999 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA19826 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:01:13 -0600 (CST) From: TK03@aol.com Received: from TK03@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.13e2b804 (673) for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:00:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.13e2b804.2576f47e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:00:30 EST Subject: Re: hit and miss To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Why does everyone mention "The Rose" as an example of a song not being written expressly for a film. If I remember correctly, "The Rose" was the winner of a songwriting contest held by the studio while producing the movie. >From eclectic_eel@yahoo.com Wed Dec 1 16:05:22 1999 Received: from web2003.mail.yahoo.com (web2003.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.203]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id QAA20448 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:05:18 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 10067 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Dec 1999 21:39:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19991201213935.10066.qmail@web2003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.242.203.166] by web2003.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 13:39:35 PST Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:39:35 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Landon Subject: "Save Me" 's Oscar-potential ? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Amidst all of the oscar-buzz, I seem to recall a mention that "Save Me" had been written FOR the film...? Does anybody know if that's the official story they're going with...And when, in calendar terms, did Aimee become involved with "Magnolia"...? The reason being - I had heard her play "Save Me" in early 96' - ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com >From Kenableken@aol.com Wed Dec 1 16:06:06 1999 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA20673 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:06:02 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.99686fec (4155) for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:05:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.99686fec.2576f5a8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:05:28 EST Subject: Re: hit and miss To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN No, "The Rose" had been written and in the vaults of a music publishing company, and when they were looking for music someone stumbled across it and thought it seemed as if it had been written for the film, so they used it. But I remeber the writer acknowledgeing the fact that it had just been sitting around waiting to be discovered. Its kinda like No Doubt getting the Best New Artist grammy three years after their first recording. But Whitney Houston was ineligible because she had sung a duet previously on someone else's album... >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Wed Dec 1 16:12:22 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA21607 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:12:20 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:17:21 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.25 [206.8.2.25] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 5DF8477CA7F311D3AE39006097D4776C for ; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:17:20 -0600 Date: 01 Dec 99 16:13:30 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: hit and miss To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991201161721.5df8477ca7f311d3ae39006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 63518307-A7F311D3-AE390060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id QAA21608 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: hit and miss I think this is all moot. IF Magnolia is a hit, and IF Save Me becomes a hit, only then will we have something to talk about. Jack On 12/1/99, TK03 wrote: Why does everyone mention "The Rose" as an example of a song not being written expressly for a film. If I remember correctly, "The Rose" was the winner of a songwriting contest held by the studio while producing the movie. >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 1 16:46:34 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f175.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.175]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id QAA25594 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:46:27 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 22420 invoked by uid 0); 1 Dec 1999 22:45:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19991201224547.22419.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.136.179 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 14:45:47 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.136.179] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: hit and miss Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 14:45:47 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN actually, Jack, "hit" status has very little to do with the oscar race. In fact, sometimes it can hamper a song/movie. Not many people saw Hilary & Jackie yet both stars received nominations. They were Emily Watson and Rachel Griffiths. Many of you STILL don't know who they are. I don't think Miss Misery made the top ten of billboard either. Promotion is the key. the "right people" need to hear those songs and see the movie, not necessarily the masses. I would personally prepare a kit for each of the 5,000 plus members of the Academy if I had a list!! Free passes to Largo wouldn't hurt either! Sadly, without these forms of promotion, truly osacr worthy material would never be seen or heard. >From: "Jack Steinmann" >Reply-To: Jack Steinmann >To: mannlist >Subject: Re: hit and miss >Date: 01 Dec 99 16:13:30 -0600 > > Reply to: re: Re: hit and miss > >I think this is all moot. IF Magnolia is a hit, and IF Save Me becomes a >hit, only then will we have something to talk about. > > >Jack > > >On 12/1/99, TK03 wrote: >Why does everyone mention "The Rose" as an example of a song not being >written expressly for a film. If I remember correctly, "The Rose" was the >winner of a songwriting contest held by the studio while producing the >movie. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 1 17:15:31 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f66.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id RAA00839 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:15:26 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 60599 invoked by uid 0); 1 Dec 1999 23:14:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19991201231450.60598.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.136.179 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 15:14:50 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.136.179] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RSVP the Academy Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 15:14:50 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Let's set this record straight, once and for all, Aimee has gone "on record" in at least one article stating she wrote "SAVE ME" and "YOU DO" specifically for the film. Since this is an ORIGINAL screenplay, and Aimm has known P.T. Anderson for several years now, no one can DISPROVE that this was not the case. He may have been formulating this script for years and in private conversation asked Aimee to write a song. SAVE ME was born. Viola! I defy anyone to prove otherwise. The artist, Aimee in this case, needs to submit the material for Oscar consideration, according to the rules I have read on their official site. She indicated to me in person at Largo, that Anderson would do that for her. I doubt there will be much of a controversy. I find it hard to believe if they send out videos to members that they will not be blown away. Send Aimee her invitation to the Dorothy Chandler Paviliion already!! >From: "Jack Steinmann" >Reply-To: Jack Steinmann >To: mannlist >Subject: Re: hit and miss >Date: 01 Dec 99 10:31:05 -0600 > > Reply to: re: Re: hit and miss > >I thought the pretense, at least, was that "Save Me" was indeed written for >the movie. > > >Jack > > >On 12/1/99, MnnyMoNHak wrote: >Unfortunately, "Save Me" isn't eligible for an Oscar either, since it >wasn't written for "Magnolia." Which is too bad, since it could have a good >shot otherwise. I've seen the movie, and "Save Me" is used in truly >stunning fashion--one of the most striking uses of a song in a feature film >I've ever seen. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Salt5@aol.com Wed Dec 1 17:32:40 1999 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA03156 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:32:39 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.f53d55cc (4263); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:31:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.f53d55cc.257709ea@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:31:54 EST Subject: infinitelybluenews To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com, Sauniere@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id RAA03157 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Dear Mann-Listers: Greetings! I hope that the season finds you well. I'd like to discuss two points. item 1) Infinitely Blue rides again! IB will be published monthly beginning THIS month. The domain will be effective in about a week and I'll post to the list again at that time. How to get there? infinitelyblue.com, thank you. We have lots of new pictures and you'll find reviews of historic and rare Aimee Mann material every month. What about sound? What about video? That's a tough one. We now have deep RealAudio capabilities but there could be some problems. We're all fans here, okay? That's it, the long and the short of it. We're eager to discuss rare music with you and eager to let you hear it too. So what's the problem? Technology, man! The Acoustic Café show was only 24 hours old when the first CD copies began to hit the circuit. IMHO, this is a quick way to hell. The material is copyrighted and should not be distributed without permission. The people who took the time to produce and publish the show may have something to say about copy rights as well. Again, what's the problem? Music for the people! Huh. Wake up, Che, it doesn't work that way. I sound like I'm being two-faced about this but IB is just non-profit trading by an anal hillbilly fan who 1) likes to brag and 2) never throws anything away. I hope that the music biz never sees traders as a threat. I try hard to position IB as a source of information and positive promotion, not as an alternate and unauthorized source of distribution for intellectual property. So, to the solution. IB will probably NOT use our streaming audio and video tools this year. If and when we do, they will probably be used only to play short excerpts from selected pieces. I'm open to suggestions on how to expand on what we offer without stepping on anyone's toes. I'm kind of partial to the idea of running the entire track but maybe only for one night. Or maybe for one hour. item 2) infinitelyblue.com has bandwidth that we can share (for free) with appropriate partners. Our contract berth with Interland gives us 200 meg to play with and 20 gig per month in transfer. Do you have a site that you'd like us to host? Missy? Sauniere? Eric? Your thoughts? That's it! Thanks. >From ash@worldlynx.net Wed Dec 1 17:53:01 1999 Received: from unix1.worldlynx.net (root@unix1.worldlynx.net [207.224.81.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA05583 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:52:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from worldlynx.net (ppp-pht-29.fiberlynx.net [207.224.84.29]) by unix1.worldlynx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA15042 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:53:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3845B4CB.4CFD3551@worldlynx.net> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 18:52:44 -0500 From: Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: infinitelybluenews References: <0.f53d55cc.257709ea@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN John, I've been waiting for you to unveil the curtain...Looks like the time is near. Scott >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 1 18:14:38 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f150.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.150]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id SAA09318 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:14:33 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 61066 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 1999 00:13:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19991202001359.61065.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.136.179 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:13:59 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.136.179] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Chances Looking Good!! Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:13:59 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN [I have included some interesting points from qualification section of oscar.com. Aimee only has to impress the music branch of the academy (MUCH MUCH smaller than the full body of 5,000Plus members)to garner a nomination. Ultimately, the entire body gets to vote from the final five to decide the winner though. I also didn't know she could submit her work for consideratin BEFORE the movie even opens. The reason the nomination process is so favorable to Aimee is that just the music branch decides, and few are MORE RESPECTED among the music community than Mann. It will not be some popularity contest or unit sold criterium.] C. SUBMISSIONS 1. For an achievement to be eligible for nomination in any of the three music categories, an OFFICIAL SUBMISSION FORM, obtainable from the Academy, must be requested personally by the principal writer(s) who alone may make the submission. 3. Submissions may be made prior to the qualifying Los Angeles release opening, but must be made no later than sixty days after such opening, or December 1st, whichever comes first. D. VOTING 1. A reminder list of works submitted in each category shall be sent with a nominations ballot to all members of the Academy Music Branch who shall vote in the order of their preference for not more than five achievements in each category. 2. The five achievements in each category receiving the highest number of votes will become the nominations for final voting for the Music Awards. 4. The entire active and life Academy membership shall vote for final selections in each category: ORIGINAL DRAMATIC SCORE, ORIGINAL MUSICAL or COMEDY SCORE and ORIGINAL SONG. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From greg.antoniono@springstreet.com Wed Dec 1 18:45:10 1999 Received: from te03.springstreet.com (te03.springstreet.com [216.32.161.17]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA20738 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:45:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from tiger (nat.sf.springstreet.com [206.229.122.3]) by te03.springstreet.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/springstreet-cyrus-2.0) with SMTP id QAA29292 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:44:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <027a01bf3c5f$1dafe690$8400000a@tiger.sf.springstreet.com> From: "Greg Antoniono" To: Subject: Re: Chances Looking Good!! Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:49:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Before we get too high on the prospect of Aimee winning an Oscar, let's look at the Academy's track record ... it's none too good ... I would consider it a huge success if she was even nominated ... every someone as tame as (the prodigiously talented) Burt Bacharach was fairly snubbed in the '60s. And most of the recent winners are mega-hits (or are from Disney films.) Greg Antoniono -----Original Message----- From: Paul Barras To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 4:20 PM Subject: Chances Looking Good!! >[I have included some interesting points from qualification section of >oscar.com. Aimee only has to impress the music branch of the academy (MUCH >MUCH smaller than the full body of 5,000Plus members)to garner a nomination. >Ultimately, the entire body gets to vote from the final five to decide the >winner though. I also didn't know she could submit her work for >consideratin BEFORE the movie even opens. > >The reason the nomination process is so favorable to Aimee is that just the >music branch decides, and few are MORE RESPECTED among the music community >than Mann. It will not be some popularity contest or unit sold criterium.] > > >C. SUBMISSIONS >1. For an achievement to be eligible for nomination in any of the three >music categories, an OFFICIAL SUBMISSION FORM, obtainable from the Academy, >must be requested personally by the principal writer(s) who alone may make >the submission. > >3. Submissions may be made prior to the qualifying Los Angeles release >opening, but must be made no later than sixty days after such opening, or >December 1st, whichever comes first. > > > >D. VOTING >1. A reminder list of works submitted in each category shall be sent with a >nominations ballot to all members of the Academy Music Branch who shall vote >in the order of their preference for not more than five achievements in each >category. > >2. The five achievements in each category receiving the highest number of >votes will become the nominations for final voting for the Music Awards. > >4. The entire active and life Academy membership shall vote for final >selections in each category: ORIGINAL DRAMATIC SCORE, ORIGINAL MUSICAL or >COMEDY SCORE and ORIGINAL SONG. > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >From markust@mindless.com Wed Dec 1 18:48:34 1999 Received: from rmx08.globecomm.net (rmx08.iname.net [165.251.8.85]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA20932 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:48:33 -0600 (CST) From: markust@mindless.com Received: from weba3.iname.net by rmx08.globecomm.net (8.9.1/8.8.0) with ESMTP id TAA05288 ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:48:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by weba3.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id TAA25956; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:48:32 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9912011948326D.11658@weba3.iname.net> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:48:32 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: aimee mann Subject: oscar Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN i have a feeling any song up for the oscar this year will face a lot of competition from the juggernaut that is the randy newman penned-sarah machlachlan (sp?) sung entry from toy story 2. even the nomination would mean great publicity though, even if aimee didn't win. anxiously awaiting magnolia, tim olympia, wa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com >From Salt5@aol.com Wed Dec 1 18:57:24 1999 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA21691 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:57:24 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.15460b00 (3947) for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:56:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.15460b00.25771dcb@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:56:43 EST Subject: Re: infinitelybluenews To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN You're featured prominently! Gimme address quick. Mail run tomorrow morning. I have your tapes coming back and some discs too. Best, John >From ash@worldlynx.net Wed Dec 1 19:05:12 1999 Received: from unix1.worldlynx.net (root@unix1.worldlynx.net [207.224.81.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA22677 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:05:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from worldlynx.net (ppp-pht-113.fiberlynx.net [207.224.84.113]) by unix1.worldlynx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA21004 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:05:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3845C5BA.AB05BDBD@worldlynx.net> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 20:04:58 -0500 From: Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: infinitelybluenews References: <0.15460b00.25771dcb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Egads! Cyberspace, here I come... Address: 730 Reeceville Road Coatesville, PA 19320-1222 Go Cyberbilly, Go! >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 1 19:15:03 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA23584 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:15:02 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.4c579600 (3956) for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:14:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.4c579600.257721f1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:14:25 EST Subject: Re: hit and miss To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Miss Misery was never a hit, most comerical radio stations didn't pay any attention to it until it was nomated, and even then it was slight. And it probably wouldn't have been nomated if Good Will Hunting hadn't been a hit. I forget if GWH had the kind of momentum that Magnolia had before it's realease, I don't think it did. There has been such a buzz surounding this film and the soundtrack, that I would think a lot of the promotion has happened already, I suspect the Acadmey will check this out just to see if it lives up to the hype. Andrea >From ash@worldlynx.net Wed Dec 1 19:15:40 1999 Received: from unix1.worldlynx.net (root@unix1.worldlynx.net [207.224.81.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA23726 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:15:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from worldlynx.net (ppp-pht-162.fiberlynx.net [207.224.84.162]) by unix1.worldlynx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA21959 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:16:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3845C818.29178A44@worldlynx.net> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 20:15:04 -0500 From: Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: infinitelybluenews References: <0.15460b00.25771dcb@aol.com> <3845C5BA.AB05BDBD@worldlynx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Oops! Sorry everyone, that was meant for John. Apologies, Scott >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 1 20:07:05 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f42.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id UAA29166 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:07:04 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 5490 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 1999 02:06:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19991202020633.5489.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.133.188 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 18:06:33 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.133.188] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: hype can backfire on artists Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 18:06:33 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Thanks Andrea. No, GOOD WILL was not hyped. It was a sleeper hit. Matt Damn and Affleck weren't big stars. I am still wondering what so great about that script or picture; but I digress. Let's hope all the hype doesn't kill Aimee's chances. The movie has been panned already, and academy members might not feel very generous to the soundtrack and Aimee if they feel the movie was not very good. It is difficult to give an oscar to a song when it can't possibly enhance a dud of a movie. Of course, they gave it to Stevie Wonder for his song (I JUST CALLED) in WOMAN IN RED which was pretty bad film. >From: AWeiss4338@aol.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Re: hit and miss >Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:14:25 EST > >>I forget if GWH had the kind of momentum that Magnolia had before it's >realease, I don't think it did. There has been such a buzz surounding this >film and the soundtrack, that I would think a lot of the promotion has >happened already, I suspect the Acadmey will check this out just to see if >it >lives up to the hype. >Andrea > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 1 20:14:12 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f257.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.30]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id UAA00018 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:14:11 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 36222 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 1999 02:13:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19991202021341.36221.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.133.188 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 18:13:41 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.133.188] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Chances Looking Good!! Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 18:13:41 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Agreed. I am just praying for the nomination and maybe something miraculous will occur after that. I think the best chance we have of seeing Aimee Mann on stage at the Oscars (besides performing SAVE ME and THAT alone would be a crowning moment of her career and a f*ck you to MTV's "one hit wonders" spot!) is when she goes up with Paul Thomas Anderson to accept for his Original Screenplay. I couldn't see him ascending those steps without her!! >From: "Greg Antoniono" >Before we get too high on the prospect of Aimee winning an Oscar, let's >look >at the Academy's track record ... it's none too good ... I would consider >it >a huge success if she was even nominated >Greg Antoniono ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From squeeze@videotron.ca Wed Dec 1 20:19:42 1999 Received: from falla.videotron.net (falla.videotron.net [205.151.222.106]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA00807 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:19:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from videotron.ca ([207.253.110.217]) by falla.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.07.30.00.05.p8) with ESMTP id <0FM30075ED33UD@falla.videotron.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:18:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:45:28 -0500 From: Dominic Subject: All that Oscars talk To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: squeeze@videotron.ca Message-id: <38447DB8.B066C36E@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <19991202021341.36221.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Paul Barras wrote: I think the best chance we have of seeing Aimee Mann > on stage at the Oscars is when she goes up with Paul Thomas Anderson to accept for his > Original Screenplay. I couldn't see him ascending those steps without her!! Hey, well, I think you guys are going a bit too far :))) Even though Aimee's songs might've had a certain influence on Anderson, I don't think they were the major factor of inspiration for his screenplay....!!! Take care ! Dominic Montreal >From robbush@wt.net Wed Dec 1 20:29:54 1999 Received: from sys32.hou.wt.net (sys32.hou.wt.net [205.230.159.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA01232 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:29:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from robbush (216-119-135-224.ipset15.wt.net [216.119.135.224]) by sys32.hou.wt.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA09133 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:29:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <012601bf3c6c$8f8ed3e0$e08777d8@wt.net> From: "Rob Bush" To: References: <19991202021341.36221.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Chances Looking Good!! Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:22:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Heck - she's got me buying Cosmo - now I'll have to watch the Oscars. What's next? (and I agree, it would be a delicious moment to see the 'suits' who have sabotaged her career all these years have to eat crow for a change.) hmmmm - I wonder if there is any cyber way we can stuff the ballot box? Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Barras To: Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 8:13 PM Subject: Re: Chances Looking Good!! > Agreed. I am just praying for the nomination and maybe something miraculous > will occur after that. I think the best chance we have of seeing Aimee Mann > on stage at the Oscars (besides performing SAVE ME and THAT alone would be a > crowning moment of her career and a f*ck you to MTV's "one hit wonders" > spot!) is when she goes up with Paul Thomas Anderson to accept for his > Original Screenplay. I couldn't see him ascending those steps without her!! > > > >From: "Greg Antoniono" > > >Before we get too high on the prospect of Aimee winning an Oscar, let's > >look > >at the Academy's track record ... it's none too good ... I would consider > >it > >a huge success if she was even nominated >Greg Antoniono > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >From baa@webzone.net Wed Dec 1 20:36:00 1999 Received: from matrix.webzone.net (matrix.webzone.net [205.219.23.25]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id UAA02049 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:35:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 27261 invoked from network); 1 Dec 1999 20:35:57 -0600 Received: from webzone.net (pm3-27.ppp97.webzone.net [208.152.103.97]) by matrix.webzone.net with SMTP; 1 Dec 1999 20:35:57 -0600 Message-ID: <3844896B.FFCF3C3@webzone.net> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:35:23 -0600 From: Mister Barb Reply-To: baa@webzone.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {TLC;RETAIL} (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: infinitelybluenews References: <0.f53d55cc.257709ea@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm not sure I'm following your logic. You don't want to provide streaming real audio as you don't want people to start bootlegging the items. If you were the sole possessor of this material, I can see how this could be a concern but there are Aimee rarities floating around everywhere. If there is a demand for Aimee rarities, there will be bootlegs to fill that void. Playing short segments of rarities or making them available for a single day will only increase demand. Better to not upload anything than that. Salt5@aol.com wrote: > Dear Mann-Listers: > > Greetings! I hope that the season finds you well. > > I'd like to discuss two points. > > item 1) Infinitely Blue rides again! IB will be published monthly beginning > THIS month. The domain will be effective in about a week and I'll post to the > list again at that time. > > How to get there? > > infinitelyblue.com, thank you. > > We have lots of new pictures and you'll find reviews of historic and rare > Aimee Mann material every month. > > What about sound? What about video? > > That's a tough one. We now have deep RealAudio capabilities but there could > be some problems. > > We're all fans here, okay? That's it, the long and the short of it. We're > eager to discuss rare music with you and eager to let you hear it too. > > So what's the problem? Technology, man! The Acoustic Café show was only 24 > hours old when the first CD copies began to hit the circuit. > > IMHO, this is a quick way to hell. > > The material is copyrighted and should not be distributed without permission. > The people who took the time to produce and publish the show may have > something to say about copy rights as well. > > Again, what's the problem? Music for the people! > > Huh. Wake up, Che, it doesn't work that way. > > I sound like I'm being two-faced about this but IB is just non-profit trading > by an anal hillbilly fan who 1) likes to brag and 2) never throws anything > away. > > I hope that the music biz never sees traders as a threat. I try hard to > position IB as a source of information and positive promotion, not as an > alternate and unauthorized source of distribution for intellectual property. > > So, to the solution. IB will probably NOT use our streaming audio and video > tools this year. If and when we do, they will probably be used only to play > short excerpts from selected pieces. > > I'm open to suggestions on how to expand on what we offer without stepping on > anyone's toes. I'm kind of partial to the idea of running the entire track > but maybe only for one night. Or maybe for one hour. > > item 2) infinitelyblue.com has bandwidth that we can share (for free) with > appropriate partners. Our contract berth with Interland gives us 200 meg to > play with and 20 gig per month in transfer. Do you have a site that you'd > like us to host? Missy? Sauniere? Eric? Your thoughts? > > That's it! Thanks. >From russn@thestandard.com Wed Dec 1 20:52:44 1999 Received: from gimlet.thestandard.net (mail.thestandard.net [209.0.34.132]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA03711 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:52:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from [209.247.251.157] (209.247.251.157 [209.247.251.157]) by gimlet.thestandard.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id X860FJMB; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:54:42 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: russn@mail.thestandard.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991202020633.5489.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <19991202020633.5489.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:55:57 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Russ Nordmeyer Subject: Re: hype can backfire on artists Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I know the movie was panned by one website (although I don't remember which one), but a friend of mine works for a major paper in California, and is friends with the movie critic on staff. The movie critic supposedly loved it, loved the music, and thought Aimee was wonderful when he met her at a press junket in LA. I'd hate to say Magnolia has been "panned" at this point. In fact, the critic said Magnolia, along with American Beauty, was one of the best of the year. The piece on Magnolia hasn't run yet, so I don't want to divulge the reporters name, but when it comes out, I'll post it or give a URL for the story. Russ > >Let's hope all the hype doesn't kill Aimee's chances. The movie has >been panned already, and academy members might not feel very >generous to the soundtrack and Aimee if they feel the movie was not >very good. It is difficult to give an oscar to a song when it can't >possibly enhance a dud of a movie. Of course, they gave it to >Stevie Wonder for his song (I JUST CALLED) in WOMAN IN RED which was >pretty bad film. >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Thu Dec 2 00:24:46 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f36.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.36]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id AAA23198 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 00:24:46 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 38820 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 1999 06:24:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19991202062415.38819.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.161.162.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 22:24:15 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.161.162.32] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: "fixing" the oscars Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 22:24:15 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have been trying to hack into the Price Waterhouse system for years to "correct" those Oscar gaffes with no luck! You aren't the only one who has thought of fixing that thing somehow to achieve the right results! And for those of you who don't know: there would be NO movie, Magnolia, without Aimee. She should actually receive a co-nomination with Anderson for original screenplay (like Affleck-Damon) if it is, indeed, so honored. I know that is a stretch, but the thing was built entirely around her music for God's sake. >From: "Rob Bush" > >>hmmmm - I wonder if there is any cyber way we can stuff the ballot box? > > >Robert > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 2 01:06:35 1999 Received: from imo-d10.mx (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id BAA26420 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 01:06:34 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.2736d24 (4530) for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 02:06:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.2736d24.25777458@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 02:06:00 EST Subject: Re: "fixing" the oscars To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN And I agree about Aimee being co nominated with Anderson for the screenplay of Magnolia. If you look at the Billboard articles from afew weeks back, it's said that he adapted her songs to the screenplay much like you'd adapt a book to one. Andrea >From patrick@cleasby.freeserve.co.uk Thu Dec 2 04:25:55 1999 Received: from nt3-omnes.london.omnes.net (nt3-omnes.london.omnes.net [134.32.100.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id EAA03507 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 04:25:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from cleasby.london.oilfield.slb.com ([134.32.100.52]) by nt3-omnes.london.omnes.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 589-44053U500L2S100) with ESMTP id AAA278 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:25:37 +0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991202102340.00a47c60@nt3-omnes.london.oilfield.slb.com> X-Sender: cleasby.freeserve.co.uk@pop.freeserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:25:43 +0000 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Patrick Cleasby Subject: Magnolia - tentative date for R2 DVD In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19991117044259.0074e7bc@iaw.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi On www.homecinemachoice.com, EIV's slate for next year reveals a date of 17th July 2000. Since EIV DVD's are usually awful I shall have to get the New Line (?) R1. Anybody got a date for the US DVD? Patrick >From MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Thu Dec 2 06:25:07 1999 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id GAA15130 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:25:07 -0600 (CST) From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Received: from MnnyMoNHak@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.48f0a6d (4222) for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:24:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.48f0a6d.2577bf01@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:24:33 EST Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 630 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN <> First off, I misspoke here. It's "Wise Up" that I meant to say is used in such truly stunning fashion--not "Save Me," though that one comes into play very nicely at the end of the film. It's "Wise Up" that people will really remember walking away from the movie. I suspect all this could be a moot point, given the Academy's inability to nominate, for example, "God Give Me Strength" from "Grace of My Heart." <> I loved the movie... and at the screening I attended, there were any number of people who walked out hating it. In fact, the people who love it and hate it come out about equal, so far, at least among the people I've talked to or journalists whose reaction I know of. But don't let that idiotic report from Allstarnews.com sway you. There will be plenty of critical raves, even if they aren't the majority. <> Well, yes and no. Anderson never stops enthusing how much her music provoked and inspired the script, and of course there's one key line that was lifted directly from one of her songs. On the other hand, there's actually not that much of her music in it over the course of three hours; other than the opening and closing minutes, only one song really gets prominent placement within the body of the film, and the rest of it is kind of subliminal. So Anderson's comments about it being like Simon & Garfunkle's songs for "The Graduate" turn out to be a little overstated, I think. Still, the movie is a field day for us Mann fans, even if average moviegoers will have to pick up the soundtrack to really hear more than three or four of the tunes. >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Thu Dec 2 09:25:56 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA26299 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:25:55 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 02 Dec 1999 09:30:56 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.229 [206.8.2.229] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 5DF84D90A7F311D3AE39006097D4776C for ; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 09:30:55 -0600 Date: 02 Dec 99 09:27:02 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: hit and miss To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991202093056.5df84d90a7f311d3ae39006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 76978BE6-A8C511D3-AE390060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id JAA26300 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: hit and miss Just for the record, Good Will Hunting had a huge buzz before its release. Miramax knew it had a hot property and leveraged it expertly with the press. I saw the film opening weekend in Santa Monica and the theater was packed. Jack On 12/1/99, AWeiss4338 wrote: I forget if GWH had the kind of momentum that Magnolia had before it's release, I don't think it did. >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Thu Dec 2 09:31:46 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA27096 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:31:45 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 02 Dec 1999 09:36:41 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.229 [206.8.2.229] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 5DF84DB6A7F311D3AE39006097D4776C for ; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 09:36:39 -0600 Date: 02 Dec 99 09:32:46 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 630 To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991202093641.5df84db6a7f311d3ae39006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 76978C24-A8C511D3-AE390060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id JAA27097 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: Re: MANNLIST digest 630 This illustrates my contention that a movie has to be a hit to make any headway with the Academy. Jack On 12/2/99, MnnyMoNHak wrote: I suspect all this could be a moot point, given the Academy's inability to nominate, for example, "God Give Me Strength" from "Grace of My Heart." >From tyson@tco.net Thu Dec 2 11:28:36 1999 Received: from tco1.tco.net (IDENT:root@tco1.tco.net [209.76.64.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA16583 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:28:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from tyson ([209.76.64.178]) by tco1.tco.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA27934 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:28:32 -0800 Message-ID: <002101bf3d4f$18d842c0$b2404cd1@tyson> From: "Tyson & Chrissy" To: Subject: Way OT Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:27:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01BF3D0C.09F4C000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BF3D0C.09F4C000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mannlist, What is the name of that poppy, goofy, techno/dance tune that is on the = commercial for the new Robin Williams flick, "Bicentennial man"? 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What is the name of that poppy, goofy, = techno/dance=20 tune that is on the commercial for the new Robin Williams flick, = "Bicentennial=20 man"?
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------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BF3D0C.09F4C000-- >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Thu Dec 2 14:55:58 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA21663 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:55:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:00:55 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.229 [206.8.2.229] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 01F903EEA8D711D3AE3A006097D4776C for ; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:00:54 -0600 Date: 02 Dec 99 14:57:02 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: Chances Looking Good To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991202150055.01f903eea8d711d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: F77EC74B-A8DE11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id OAA21679 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: Chances Looking Good It's wishful thinking that any suit who has done Ms. Mann wrong would feel any regret or even question his own business acumen under any circumstances short of Ms. Mann duplicating Alanis Morrisette's sales of Jagged Little Pill. From the suits' point of view Aimee Mann isn't worth the bother, she isn't a team player. If she were handed an Oscar they would shrug and order another cocktail. Jack On 12/1/99, Rob Bush wrote: it would be a delicious moment to see the 'suits' who have sabotaged her career all these years have to eat crow for a change. >From lovnros@idt.net Thu Dec 2 16:11:16 1999 Received: from mail-relay3.idt.net (MAIL-RELAY3.IDT.NET [169.132.8.27]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA00231 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:11:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from [169.132.153.140] (ppp-44.ts-3.lax.idt.net [169.132.153.140]) by mail-relay3.idt.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19357; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:11:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199912022211.RAA19357@mail-relay3.idt.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:11:17 -0800 Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 630 From: "Daniel P. Melvold" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The Academy gives Oscar's to songs from bad films all the time - "Time of My Life" from Dirty Dancing comes to mind. The "Flashdance" theme is another.... Dan ---------- >From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 630 >Date: Thu, Dec 2, 1999, 4:24 AM > > ><wasn't >written for "Magnolia." Which is too bad, since it could have a good shot >otherwise. I've seen the movie, and "Save Me" is used in truly stunning >fashion--one of the most striking uses of a song in a feature film I've ever >seen.>> > >First off, I misspoke here. It's "Wise Up" that I meant to say is used in >such truly stunning fashion--not "Save Me," though that one comes into play >very nicely at the end of the film. It's "Wise Up" that people will really >remember walking away from the movie. > >I suspect all this could be a moot point, given the Academy's inability to >nominate, for example, "God Give Me Strength" from "Grace of My Heart." > ><panned already, and academy members might not feel very generous to the >soundtrack and Aimee if they feel the movie was not very good.>> > >I loved the movie... and at the screening I attended, there were any number >of people who walked out hating it. In fact, the people who love it and hate >it come out about equal, so far, at least among the people I've talked to or >journalists whose reaction I know of. But don't let that idiotic report from >Allstarnews.com sway you. There will be plenty of critical raves, even if >they aren't the majority. > ><without Aimee. She should actually receive a co-nomination with Anderson >for original screenplay (like Affleck-Damon) if it is, indeed, so honored. >I know that is a stretch, but the thing was built entirely around her music >for God's sake.>> > >Well, yes and no. Anderson never stops enthusing how much her music provoked >and inspired the script, and of course there's one key line that was lifted >directly from one of her songs. On the other hand, there's actually not that >much of her music in it over the course of three hours; other than the >opening and closing minutes, only one song really gets prominent placement >within the body of the film, and the rest of it is kind of subliminal. So >Anderson's comments about it being like Simon & Garfunkle's songs for "The >Graduate" turn out to be a little overstated, I think. Still, the movie is a >field day for us Mann fans, even if average moviegoers will have to pick up >the soundtrack to really hear more than three or four of the tunes. > > >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Thu Dec 2 16:26:10 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f115.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.115]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id QAA02333 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:25:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 71516 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 1999 22:25:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19991202222518.71515.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.138.125 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:25:18 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.138.125] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: we don't need an admission by execs Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:25:18 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN anyone that has listened to Aimee's acoustic cafe interview and that other one (can't recall the site), they have heard the artistic self-doubt and resignation in Aimee at certain times in her life. She has questioned her career and choices. This would be more an affirmation for HER to look at the execs and know that she was true to herself and was RIGHT. Whether they actually pull their heads out of their asses and admit they were wrong, doesn't make them any less so. furthermore, I think that many hollywood execs will be calling Mrs. Penn to pitch some ideas to her. >From: "Jack Steinmann" >> > if she were handed an Oscar they would shrug and order another >cocktail. > > >Jack > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From robbush@wt.net Thu Dec 2 20:48:34 1999 Received: from sys32.hou.wt.net (sys32.hou.wt.net [205.230.159.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA03108 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:48:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from robbush (216-119-135-233.ipset15.wt.net [216.119.135.233]) by sys32.hou.wt.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA10874 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:48:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00c501bf3d37$85306460$e98777d8@wt.net> From: "Rob Bush" To: References: <19991202222518.71515.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: we don't need an admission by execs Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:38:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The phrase 'pearls before swine' comes to mind right here - Last night I took a few hours and listened to all Aimee's CD's from "Voices Carry" to "I'm With Stupid". (Yes, I know I need the last two and B2 is on its way and Tuesday I'll be at the record story early to get Magnolia). What a talent - what insights - and through the entire ordeal she has kept her focus, producing the quality that she knows she can produce. It has had to be lonesome at times, it has had to frustrating for her to hear the music she hears and to have those around her deaf to it. I am just glad that through it all, she has not wavered. Sometimes I deserve the anger that she shares; we have all been neglectful of those we love. I learn from these songs and I am a better person. (and my girlfriend wondered why I was especially thoughtful today) Regardless of if the suits ever appreciate her, (and they never will), the most important thing is that she has been able to touch countless others with her music and has changed lives for the good. That is a legacy that cannot be bought. Thank you Ms. Mann. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Barras To: Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 4:25 PM Subject: we don't need an admission by execs > anyone that has listened to Aimee's acoustic cafe interview and that other > one (can't recall the site), they have heard the artistic self-doubt and > resignation in Aimee at certain times in her life. She has questioned her > career and choices. This would be more an affirmation for HER to look at the > execs and know that she was true to herself and was RIGHT. Whether they > actually pull their heads out of their asses and admit they were wrong, > doesn't make them any less so. > > furthermore, I think that many hollywood execs will be calling Mrs. Penn to > pitch some ideas to her. > > > >From: "Jack Steinmann" > >> > > if she were handed an Oscar they would shrug and order another > >cocktail. > > > > > >Jack > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >From TK03@aol.com Fri Dec 3 05:12:02 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id FAA08947 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 05:12:01 -0600 (CST) From: TK03@aol.com Received: from TK03@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.65a998fd (3947) for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 06:11:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.65a998fd.2578ff5f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 06:11:27 EST Subject: Re: we don't need an admission by execs To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN "All you want to do is something good......" >From blishen@pandasex.freeserve.co.uk Fri Dec 3 05:47:35 1999 Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id FAA09821 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 05:47:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.92.197.25] (helo=mail17.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #0) id 11trBR-0003zr-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:47:29 +0000 Received: from modem-110.name41.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.180.110]) by mail17.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #0) id 11trBR-0006zE-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:47:29 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:50:05 +0000 Subject: UK TV appearence. From: David Blishen To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi all, Does anyone have a recording of Aimee's appearance on Danny Baker's TV show here in the UK. She was promoting "Whatever" so I guess it was 1993. She performed a couple of Beatles covers and then "whatever" I think. Also I'd be interested to hear of any Aimee MP3 sites... Thanks, David >From GaryLBSP@aol.com Fri Dec 3 13:47:34 1999 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA09702 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:47:33 -0600 (CST) From: GaryLBSP@aol.com Received: from GaryLBSP@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.73470ac0 (5739) for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:47:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.73470ac0.25797834@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:47:00 EST Subject: Largo Video To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was considering doing a high quality video of one of Aimee's shows this month. This would be done for trading with other list members exclusively. Will I need to get Aimee's, Micahel Hausmann's and/or Largo's permission? Any other past tapers have any thoughts? Thanks, Gary >From grahame.davies@mail.interfacevideo.com Fri Dec 3 14:30:10 1999 Received: from mail.interfacevideo.com (pc34.interfacevideo.com [209.193.168.34] (may be forged)) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA15749 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:30:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from [42.1.1.113] by mail.interfacevideo.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 4920 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:34:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 15:30:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Largo Video From: "Grahame Davies" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19991203203430718.AAA454.4920@[42.1.1.113]> Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Gary: If you do get to do the video, I'd LOVE to trade something for a copy... -- Grahame ---------- >From: GaryLBSP@aol.com >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Largo Video >Date: Fri, Dec 3, 1999, 2:47 PM > >I was considering doing a high quality video of one of Aimee's shows this >month. This would be done for trading with other list members exclusively. > Will I need to get Aimee's, Micahel Hausmann's and/or Largo's permission? > >Any other past tapers have any thoughts? > >Thanks, > >Gary > >From BasidiumX@aol.com Fri Dec 3 17:04:39 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA05873 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 17:04:38 -0600 (CST) From: BasidiumX@aol.com Received: from BasidiumX@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.8433d36c (3995) for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:03:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8433d36c.2579a65a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:03:54 EST Subject: Re: "I was Hoping..." To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN On the"Whatever" album, the sixth song, with the refrain, "I was Hoping that...", if it is autobiographical in nature, must surely have been written by Aimee regarding an agent or a lawyer who failed her in some piece of litigation in which Aimee herself accepts some portion of the blame. I am aan attorney at a large N.Y.C. firm and recently played ithe song for a young associate who foolishly listened to a client and wound up doing everyone a dis-service. Of course, this is only my interpretation of the song as I have not been involved in litigation involing Aimee. I would appreciate hearing from anyone with knowledge whether my interpretation has any basis in fact. >From angusmcg@ix.netcom.com Fri Dec 3 18:20:35 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA19197 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:20:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from 26140 (lai-ca4b-143.ix.netcom.com [209.110.245.143]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04031 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 19:20:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991203162046.00aa8700@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: angusmcg@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 16:21:35 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Angela McGregor Subject: Re: Largo Video In-Reply-To: <0.73470ac0.25797834@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_905252==_.ALT" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --=====================_905252==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:47 PM 12/3/99 -0500, you wrote: > Will I need to get Aimee's, Micahel Hausmann's and/or Largo's permission? >Yes. Wasn't there somebody on this list who got popped for unauthorized taping not too long ago? It's a copyright violation, among other things... Angela McGregor www.frigidisk.com --=====================_905252==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 02:47 PM 12/3/99 -0500, you wrote:

 Will I need to get Aimee's, Micahel Hausmann's and/or Largo's permission? 

Yes.

Wasn't  there somebody on this list who got popped for unauthorized taping not too long ago?  It's a copyright violation, among other things...

Angela McGregor
www.frigidisk.com --=====================_905252==_.ALT-- >From Kenableken@aol.com Fri Dec 3 20:16:53 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA29372 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:16:52 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.6e112987 (6104) for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:16:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6e112987.2579d371@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:16:17 EST Subject: Re: "I was Hoping..." To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Check out the Aimee site for her explaination of the lyrics to Amateur, which is actually, if I remember correctly, her addressing people who have warned Jon Brion to stay away from her.... >From ScottRP@aol.com Fri Dec 3 20:21:19 1999 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA29535 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:21:18 -0600 (CST) From: ScottRP@aol.com Received: from ScottRP@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.80a8a2b (3847) for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:17:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.80a8a2b.2579d3d4@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:17:56 EST Subject: Susan To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Sorry to bring up an old issue but I was just listening to the mp3 I downloaded of the song "Susan" which I REALLY like. I looked to see if it was on the Magnolia Soundtrack...it wasn't. I then went to look on aimeemann.com to check out the lyrics under B#2...not there either. Is this song or has this song been released? Thanks in advance, Scott >From pasquinade@erols.com Fri Dec 3 20:37:01 1999 Received: from mail.rdc1.md.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.md.home.com [24.2.2.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA00064 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:37:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from cj853769-a ([24.13.249.45]) by mail.rdc1.md.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991204023658.FJOQ14742.mail.rdc1.md.home.com@cj853769-a> for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:36:58 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991203213436.00a20100@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: pasquinade@pop.erols.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 21:35:22 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Ed Lynn Subject: Re: Susan In-Reply-To: <0.80a8a2b.2579d3d4@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN At 09:17 PM 12/3/1999 , you wrote: >Sorry to bring up an old issue but I was just listening to the mp3 I >downloaded of the song "Susan" which I REALLY like. I looked to see if it >was on the Magnolia Soundtrack...it wasn't. I then went to look on >aimeemann.com to check out the lyrics under B#2...not there either. Is this >song or has this song been released? Thanks in advance, It's actually called "I Can See It Now" and it is on the new album. ed. >From Kenableken@aol.com Sat Dec 4 09:33:09 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA00425 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 09:33:08 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.d5baef32 (2706) for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:31:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.d5baef32.257a8dc4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:31:16 EST Subject: Xmas giving To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Since the Magnolia CD will be a great gift idea, I think everyone should make a point of buying a small stack of them this week, so that there is a visible sales blip to prove all the naysayers wrong. Also, since we've all been debating whether the Aimee inspired Magnolia movie/screenplay have Oscar chances, I'd like to announce--well okay, brag--that my own Aimee inspired collection of stories, The Kind I'm Likely to Get, has been named a Notable Book of 1999 by The New York Times. So maybe it'll be a banner turn of the century for all things Aimee. Also, several aspects of Magnolia, including the performances of Cruise and Moore, were on the year end best list of Rolling Stone. Thats all for now... ken >From witless@home.com Sat Dec 4 13:36:52 1999 Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA06205 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 13:36:50 -0600 (CST) From: witless@home.com Received: from cf59514-a.mdfrd1.or.home.com ([24.6.223.50]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991204193641.NXPE20526.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@cf59514-a.mdfrd1.or.home.com> for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 11:36:41 -0800 To: Date: Sat, 04 Dec 99 11:32:44 Pacific Standard Time Subject: Re: "Muggy" quality X-Mailer: Recon Mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=RECON_MAIL_PaRt_BoUnDaRy_05151998 Message-Id: <19991204193641.NXPE20526.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@cf59514-a.mdfrd1.or.home.com> Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --RECON_MAIL_PaRt_BoUnDaRy_05151998 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit >well, hey, since you brought it up, I've thought that myself, too. Maybe >it's a style-thing -- each of Aimee's solo releases have had different >feels -- she could be going for a mellower vibe here. >Or maybe it's just that it's a demo. Songs can change alot between demo >and release; I remember reading about the Crowded House song "Black and >White Boy" (from Together Alone) -- Neil Finn originally wrote it as a >slow, ballady guitar number, but by the time it was released it became >this rave-y full-out sonic blast. >We'll see when we get the finished "Bachelor #2". Personally, I hope >it's way different. Not because I don't like the demo EP (I love it!) - >but because i'd like to hear some of these songs punched up, less mellow >or "muggy" as Scott puts it. >Barnes Tilney >"Fickle, Scott" wrote: >> >> >> I just got the Demo EP this weekend, is it me or does the mix on >> that Demo seem "Muggy" ? One of the things I have always thought >> about Aimee's music was just how good it sounded, her voice, the >> instruments and the whole production for her has always seemed to be >> 2nd to none. On this EP it, to me, just sounds different/weird. I >> can't really put a finger on it, anybody else notice? Perhaps it's >> just not the final cuts, which is fine. >> >> >> Just Curious.... --RECON_MAIL_PaRt_BoUnDaRy_05151998-- >From witless@home.com Sat Dec 4 13:39:40 1999 Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA07721 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 13:39:38 -0600 (CST) From: witless@home.com Received: from cf59514-a.mdfrd1.or.home.com ([24.6.223.50]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991204193937.NYKB20526.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@cf59514-a.mdfrd1.or.home.com> for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 11:39:37 -0800 To: Date: Sat, 04 Dec 99 11:35:40 Pacific Standard Time Subject: X-Mailer: Recon Mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=RECON_MAIL_PaRt_BoUnDaRy_05151998 Message-Id: <19991204193937.NYKB20526.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@cf59514-a.mdfrd1.or.home.com> Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --RECON_MAIL_PaRt_BoUnDaRy_05151998 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit >Or maybe it's just that it's a demo. Songs can change alot between demo >and release; >Barnes Tilney Ya know, that reminds me... I had a demo tape of an album in the mid '80s by a guy named Christopher Spheeris called Voices of the Heart.. was mostly nature sample/analog synth ambient stuff with no drumboxes or anything. But the tape was.. well, a tape, with all the attendant problems like wear, stretch warble, hiss.. So I went to the store and bought the CD a few years later when I happened to see it. The name was Chris now, and the album was Desires of the Heart... and I couldn't even recognise most of the tracks anymore; they had been "produced" into oblivion. Just a big mess of cheesey synthpatches and drumbox with a buttload of reverb plastered over it. The guy had done a great job of putting some recorded nature stuff in with some undemanding music to create a great atmosphere album (useful in my college days), then the Big Boys had beaten the dang thing into submission for the masses. Rankled my hide, that did. Anyway, I was just thinking how wonderful it was that our beloved Ms. Mann had never bowed to that kind of horse hockey. And also, does anyone happen to have a recording of the demo tape of Voices of the Heart? Mine died deader than dead about 10 years ago... --RECON_MAIL_PaRt_BoUnDaRy_05151998-- >From velvetpop@hotmail.com Sat Dec 4 16:44:28 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f51.hotmail.com [209.185.131.114]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id QAA05180 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:44:27 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 444 invoked by uid 0); 4 Dec 1999 22:43:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19991204224356.443.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.26.7.236 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 04 Dec 1999 14:43:55 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.26.7.236] From: "chopkins beasley" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: witless Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 14:43:55 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN yes! who wants sugar-coated overloaded.......not from Aimee thanks. >From: witless@home.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: >Date: Sat, 04 Dec 99 11:35:40 Pacific Standard Time > > >Or maybe it's just that it's a demo. Songs can change alot between demo > >and release; > > >Barnes Tilney > > >Ya know, that reminds me... > >I had a demo tape of an album in the mid '80s by a guy named Christopher >Spheeris called Voices of the Heart.. was mostly nature sample/analog synth >ambient stuff with no drumboxes or anything. But the tape was.. well, a >tape, >with all the attendant problems like wear, stretch warble, hiss.. So I >went >to the store and bought the CD a few years later when I happened to see it. >The name was Chris now, and the album was Desires of the Heart... and I >couldn't even recognise most of the tracks anymore; they had been >"produced" into >oblivion. Just a big mess of cheesey synthpatches and drumbox with a >buttload >of reverb plastered over it. The guy had done a great job of putting some >recorded nature stuff in with some undemanding music to create a great >atmosphere album (useful in my college days), then the Big Boys had beaten >the dang >thing into submission for the masses. Rankled my hide, that did. > >Anyway, I was just thinking how wonderful it was that our beloved Ms. Mann >had never bowed to that kind of horse hockey. And also, does anyone happen >to have a recording of the demo tape of Voices of the Heart? Mine died >deader >than dead about 10 years ago... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From jase@iaw.on.ca Sat Dec 4 22:15:17 1999 Received: from iaw.on.ca (IDENT:root@canal.iaw.on.ca [209.5.112.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id WAA01276 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 22:15:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from jase.iaw.on.ca(src addr [209.5.116.211]) (7073 bytes) by iaw.on.ca via sendmail with P\:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 23:15:01 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1998-Dec-27) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991205041538.0073bdbc@iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 23:15:38 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: The Magnolia soundtrack Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm officially the luckiest person on earth. While doing some shopping today, I decided I would stop into a few record stores to see whether any of them would be stocking the Magnolia soundtrack, so I wouldn't have to waste any time on Tuesday trying to find a copy. The first store I stopped into had never heard of the album, didn't have any information on it in its computer system and doubted they would be getting it anyway. Okay, not so good. Slightly paranoid that I would not get to hear the album as soon as it's released, I was already starting to worry I would have a similar run of luck anywhere else I tried. The next store I stopped into was Sam The Record Man. After looking through the bins for a few minutes for other albums, I went up to the counter and asked the sales clerk if they would be getting Magnolia on Tuesday. He went over, checked the computer and all-too-happily told me, "No, we won't be getting that." I stood there thinking to myself, "Okay, you little schmuck, either wipe that smirk off your face or I'm going to do it for you" -- not that I'd really do such a thing -- until he followed it up with the explanation, "Because we've already got it in stock." I stood there a little stunned, knowing for a fact that the CD isn't supposed to be out until December 7. The clerk went over, pulled a copy from the bins and brought it over. Still surprised, I pulled out my wallet and bought it immediately, barely even glancing at the cover. Ripping the plastic off of the CD before I was barely even out of the store, I was on a definite high. I've been waiting so long for new Aimee music, and I felt so giddy and ecstatic to finally have it in my hands. I took a quick look through the CD booklet and decided to put off the rest of my shopping until tomorrow so I could get home and listen to it right away. That was several hours ago, and the CD has been on repeat here ever since (although I did program out the final four non-Aimee songs). I must say, this is some of Aimee's finest work and I'm completely in awe over how good it is. "Save Me," "Deathly," "You Do" and "Build That Wall" are all standouts, and the instrumental version of "Nothing Is Good Enough" is gorgeous. Also, the songs are masterfully sequenced; they flow together so well that you know a lot of care went into determining the running order. This was definitely not achieved by happy accident. The packaging is great, as well. Throughout the CD booklet, there are photos of Aimee and the cast of the film, all of which appear to have been taken from the video for "Save Me." There's also a great picture of Aimee with Paul Thomas Anderson, the writer/director of the film, as well as his liner notes and the lyrics for all of Aimee's songs on the album. I know there has been some debate over how greatly Aimee's music influenced the writing and making of the film, with some thinking that Anderson has went a little overboard in giving her so much credit. However, if you read his liner notes, you may be a little more convinced of Aimee's importance in the conceptualization of the film. The liner notes are as follows: "I sat down to write an adaption of Aimee Mann songs. Like one would adapt a book for the screen, I had the concept of adapting Aimee's songs into a screenplay. All that follows in these liner notes should be prefaced with this notion: I was an Aimee Mann fan before I was an Aimee Mann friend. That said, I will proceed to shine her shoes: In the late summer and early fall of 1997, I was listening to Aimee's music over and over and over again. This was not something new, this is something that I always did and continue to do. It just so happened that this was the time that I was starting to write my new film. Now, having the benefit of knowing Aimee I was allowed to hear demos, acoustic experiments and basic work-in-progress material that she was working on for her upcoming record. So while she was working, I was working. Everything she seemed to be thinking were things that I was thinking. Now this may be due to the fact that at the time, we were very close friends sharing a majority of our time together, or it may be due to the fact that she was articulating feelings and ideas better than I ever could and I wanted to rip her off. I would say the second is true. For instance, in my _original_ motion picture screenplay, Claudia (played by Melora Walters, with a true sense of Aimee Mann insanity) says, "Now that I've met you, would you object to never seeing me again?" I must come clean. I did not write that line. Aimee Mann wrote that line as the opening of her song, "Deathly," and I wrote backwards from that line. It equals the story of Claudia. It equals the heart and soul of "Magnolia." All stories for the movie were written branching off from Claudia, so one could do the math and realize that all stories come from Aimee's brain, not mine. Aimee is a brilliant writer. She writes lines that are so simple and direct, you are convinced that you have either A) heard it before, B) said it before, or even C) thought of it before (and just never wrote it down.) But the truth of the matter is: It's None Of The Above. Like any great writer, she has the ability to articulate. She is the great articulator of the biggest things we think about, "How can anyone love me?" "Why the hell would anyone love me" and the old favorite, "Why would I love anyone when all it means is torture?" So here it is, the perfect memento to remember the movie -- or you can look at the movie as the perfect memento to remember the songs that Aimee has made. Paul Thomas Anderson September, 1999, Los Angeles, California" Also, while I definitely do not want to spoil anyone else's enjoyment in hearing these songs for the first time, if there's enough interest, I'd be more than happy to type the lyrics and production credits and send them to the list. After hearing the soundtrack, I do have to say that Aimee should take some time off from writing songs -- she's going to need it in order to start working on her acceptance speech. For all those who think I may be going overboard in my praise and making too many superlative comments, just wait until you hear this material for yourself. Wow. Also, for all the Canadians on the list, you might want to take a look for the CD before Tuesday. My guess is that for Sam's to already have it in stock, it must have been released early here. They hardly seem the type to violate street dates; most of the big chains are pretty strict in regards to that. Cheers, Jase >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Sun Dec 5 00:33:56 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f127.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.127]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id AAA06721 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 00:33:54 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 24921 invoked by uid 0); 5 Dec 1999 06:33:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19991205063323.24920.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.136.40 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 04 Dec 1999 22:33:23 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.136.40] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: The Magnolia soundtrack Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 22:33:23 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I got a promo, Jason, but it did not have the notes you generously shared with us. Thank you. And to all you naysayers about my comments of Aimee sharing screen writing, well, I told you so. She is not officially credited as such, but P.T. Anderson has acknowledged it and it was not a stretch for me to say after all. It was, indeed a collaboration. Not only were her lyrics used as spoken dialogue, but it is also sung as dialogue. As I stated before, I could not see him accepting without Aimee on the stage with him. I truly hope MAGNOLIA is a hit; but even if not, this collaboration epitomizes the very reason they even award an oscar for best song: it accents and helps drive the movie the way a supporting or major actor's performance or a script might. It should be recognized for its innovation if nothing else, and everyone knows the Academy likes to reward fresh ideas. Ask Quentin Tarantino, Neil Jordan, Callie Khouri (forgive spelling), Jane Campion, Damon & Affleck, Cohen Bros et al. They all were awarded oscars for their original screenplays for stories that were not your average Hollywood fare. MAGNOLIA and P.T. Anderson fit that bill. I think, at the very least, Aimee will be HIS guest at the Oscars. One thing trouble me. This material is SO good, I don't want Aimee to split her own vote. Amended Academy rules prevent an actor from competing against himself in any category. The performance for which they receive the most votes becomes the nominated role (occasionally some performers with several strong roles in the same year have split their own vote and not received any nominations; its one of the glitches of the nomination process in my opinion, but you vote for the actor AND role on your nominating ballots). Aimee benefits from being allowed to submit the song she feels most strongly about; but as stated in the rules, the executive committee of the music branch can select from the submissions or any others they deem. A strong argument could be made for YOU DO. I think, lyrically, it is superior to SAVE ME. As beautiful as SAVE ME is, the lyrics are sparse, but maybe less is more. Of course, if the film is ultimately about seeking redemption, SAVE ME would be the perfect choice. I want to make an honorable mention to Bruce Springsteen's song LIFT ME UP. When I first saw LIMBO, set in one of my fair home states of Alaska, I didn't stay to see the credits, so I missed a fabulous song until I saw it on DVD. Does anyone know if it is oscar eligible? It is lovely. Of course, narratively, it does not do for the film what Aimee's songs are purported to provide to MAGNOLIA. I might add that it would be just like Hollywood to give another oscar to The Boss especially if they feel they have already rewarded MAGNOLIA with a bone for, oh say, original screenplay or supporting actor. Finally, did anyone else catch the segment that Headline News did on this season of Oscar contenders on Friday, December 3rd? It was more about running time of the contenders rather than Aimee content, but MAGNOLIA was mentioned and brief clips flashed. Definite buzz for Cruise in a supporting role which also bodes well for the "right" people seeing and noticing the other nuances of this film, like the soundtrack. They will watch, if for nothing else, to see if Cruise's work is, indeed, worthy of an oscar nomination. >From: Jason Long > >For instance, in my _original_ motion picture screenplay, Claudia (played >by >Melora Walters, with a true sense of Aimee Mann insanity) says, "Now that >I've met you, would you object to never seeing me again?" I must come >clean. >I did not write that line. Aimee Mann wrote that line as the opening of her >song, "Deathly," and I wrote backwards from that line. It equals the story >of Claudia. It equals the heart and soul of "Magnolia." All stories for the >movie were written branching off from Claudia, so one could do the math and >realize that all stories come from Aimee's brain, not mine. >>means is torture?" here it is, the perfect memento to remember the movie -- or you can > >After hearing the soundtrack, I do have to say that Aimee should take some >time off from writing songs -- she's going to need it in order to start >working on her acceptance speech. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From jase@iaw.on.ca Sun Dec 5 04:23:43 1999 Received: from iaw.on.ca (IDENT:root@canal.iaw.on.ca [209.5.112.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id EAA21186 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 04:23:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from jase.iaw.on.ca(src addr [209.5.116.147]) (1358 bytes) by iaw.on.ca via sendmail with P\:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 05:23:28 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1998-Dec-27) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991205102406.0067cdb4@iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 05:24:06 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: Magnolia review in Entertainment Weekly Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The new issue of Entertainment Weekly hasn't hit the stands here in Canada yet, so I was just wondering if anyone in the US has picked it up, and if so, if there is a review of the Magnolia soundtrack in it. Given the number of times they've mentioned Aimee in various articles over the past year, it would seem that she has a supporter or two over there, so I would really hope that they've decided to run a review of the album. Continued favorable exposure would be of great benefit to the success of both the soundtrack and the upcoming album, and Aimee certainly deserves the recognition. Also, has anyone come across any other print reviews of the soundtrack? I've already checked Rolling Stone, Spin, and a couple of other magazines to no avail, and there doesn't appear to be anything online either (at least that I've been able to find). Jase >From ScottRP@aol.com Sun Dec 5 08:17:17 1999 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA10018 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 08:17:17 -0600 (CST) From: ScottRP@aol.com Received: from ScottRP@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.eadeeb25 (4339) for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 09:16:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.eadeeb25.257bcdc7@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 09:16:39 EST Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 633 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/5/99 7:05:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu writes: > Also, has anyone come across any other print reviews of the soundtrack? I've > already checked Rolling Stone, Spin, and a couple of other magazines to no > avail, and there doesn't appear to be anything online either (at least that > I've been able to find). Let me vent once again against Rolling Stone. To date they have still never reviewed I'm With Stupid. That was the end of my subscription. Scott >From tyson@tco.net Sun Dec 5 11:57:56 1999 Received: from tco1.tco.net (IDENT:root@tco1.tco.net [209.76.64.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA27416 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 11:57:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from tyson (pm-3-27.tco.net [209.76.64.184]) by tco1.tco.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA17283 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 09:57:53 -0800 Message-ID: <000901bf3fae$ade83940$b8404cd1@tyson> From: "Tyson & Chrissy" To: References: <1.5.4.32.19991205102406.0067cdb4@iaw.on.ca> Subject: build that wall Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:56:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello everybody, What is the story with the song, "build that wall"? We haven't talked about it much. Tyson >From Salt5@aol.com Sun Dec 5 16:16:18 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA23063 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:16:17 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.6a3496cb (4243); Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:15:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6a3496cb.257c3e0c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:15:40 EST Subject: the family To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN did you guys see this on the JB list? ""I see that Jon Brion, in his continuing homage to the previous king of session musicians Jimmy Page, appears on Melissa Etheridge's new album "Breakdown," along with the new Rat Pack of Matt Chamberlain, Jim Keltner and Patrick Warren. Has anyone heard this album? Jack Yep I got it--and Rami Jaffee of the Wallflowers shares key duties with Warren. It rocks! Heidi"" >From jase@iaw.on.ca Sun Dec 5 17:41:09 1999 Received: from iaw.on.ca (IDENT:root@canal.iaw.on.ca [209.5.112.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id RAA04808 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:41:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from jase.iaw.on.ca(src addr [209.5.117.226]) (1997 bytes) by iaw.on.ca via sendmail with P\:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:40:52 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1998-Dec-27) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991205234128.0073f8c8@iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 18:41:28 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: Re: build that wall Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN At 09:56 PM 12/5/1999 -0800, Tyson wrote: >Hello everybody, > > What is the story with the song, "build that wall"? We haven't talked >about it much. "Build That Wall" seems to be a song that's either been completed and left in the vaults, or is new recording of a song written years ago. The publishing credit lists a copyright of 1990, but there's no information as to when it was recorded. There's not even a production credit for the track. Two of the recording locations (Q Division and Bearsville) are studios where Aimee also recorded material for _Whatever_, so maybe it's a leftover from early sessions for that album. I've never heard anything about this song before, and I'm quite interested in finding out about its origins. Maybe someone could write to Michael Hausman about it? It really is a great song, though, and without giving too much away, there is some incredible instrumentation used throughout. It seems to pick up where the final 'Til Tuesday album left off, while adding some new touches. All in all, an excellent track. I can't wait for everyone on the list to hear it on Tuesday and start discussing it. Also, I've been listening to the soundtrack all day again, and I really must say that "Driving Sideways" has grown on me a lot. Initially I did like it, but now I would rank it among the standout tracks. The lyrics are incredible -- Aimee is one of the few songwriters these days who can effectively sustain an extended metaphor over the course of a song. Cheers, Jase >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sun Dec 5 19:33:33 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA25129 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 19:33:32 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.3d45d62d (3984) for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:32:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3d45d62d.257c6c4a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:32:58 EST Subject: New Aimee To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I write this right after hearing You Do on Vin Scelsia's Idiot's Delight show. He's probably going to feature the Magnolia soundtrack all during his show. Yipee! It sounds wonderful, slow, quiet, devistating. he's been a supporter for awhile. Also heard, on Philly's WXPN new music show, First Impressions, they featured Save Me. The panalelists gave it a good review, their only quam was that it was quiet, and maybe not as commerical as it should be. And don't flame me but I knid of agree. I like quiet so that wasn't it but You Do I think is a better choice for a single. But I'm terrible at picking singles so I could be wrong. So let's hope so and this is a hit. Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sun Dec 5 19:53:53 1999 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA26553 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 19:53:52 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.8e0f304a (4585) for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:53:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8e0f304a.257c7104@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:53:08 EST Subject: Re: Xmas giving To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I agree, we should all stock up on Magnolia. The Kind I'm Likely To Get is a great book and desrved it's mention in the Times. Aimee's influnce is featured very much throughout. Go buy it. And I agree again, this could be Aimee's year, to borrow a title of a Semisonic song. Andrea >From Salt5@aol.com Sun Dec 5 20:25:18 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA29167 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:25:17 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.b22ffe44 (4391); Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:24:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.b22ffe44.257c786a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:24:42 EST Subject: B.Read Does Not Live by Mann Alone To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Greetings. Aimee sometimes played "Build That Wall" live in concert back when Til Tuesday included Buddy Judge, Jon Brion and Michael Hausman. The only recorded version (prior to Magnolia) comes from Barney Trouble, a misguided Red Sox fan. Mr. Trouble was a regular at the Bayou (in Washington) and Max's (in Baltimore) and Til Tuesday played both of those clubs many times during those exciting Bush-era days. Mr. Trouble's original recording of "Build That Wall" sounds like it was mic'ed from the back of the room but it cleaned up nicely. "Build That Wall" has a lovely melody and the mood would have fit right in on the great, lost "fourth" Til Tuesday album. Til Tuesday performed many songs in concert that would later appear on "Whatever" and the "Whatever"-era single releases. "Put Me on Top" "Jimmy Hoffa Jokes" "Stupid Thing" "Fifty Years after the Fair" "I Know There's a Word" "Baby Blue" and "Jacob Marley's Chain" were all played live by TT and the arrangements were often very different from the "Whatever" arrangements. "Stupid Thing" sometimes had a pronounced Procol Harum influence in concert. A last thought about the organ-loaded, "Build That Wall"-period Til Tuesday. I used to correspond with a guy that I met here on this very list back in the early days. I argued that "Build That Wall" and "Put on Some Speed" were "Whatever" out-takes. He argued that they were written and arranged for a fourth Til Tuesday album. I told him to go shit in his hat. He went and produced Jen Trynin instead. His name was Mike Deneen. Mr. Deneen knew what he was talking about. He worked on the fourth TT album and played keyboards with TT for many of their live shows during that time. I'm not certain of the exact order but I believe that it was Joe P first, then Michael Montes, then Mike Deneen, then Jon Brion. As you probably know, JB stuck around to produce and play on "Whatever". B. Read >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Sun Dec 5 22:01:56 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f60.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.60]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id WAA09557 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:01:56 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 27227 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 1999 04:01:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19991206040125.27226.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.131.59 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:01:25 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.131.59] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: New Aimee Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:01:25 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Andrea, I agree! Both are very lovely quiet songs, the kind Oscar loves. :-) Remember PHILADELPHIA? The true "singles" should come from Bachelor #2. Soundtracks don't always have to have a single, especially ones with no rap content. ;-) I have been debating in my head SAVE ME vs. YOU DO as well as you, not as singles, but as to which has the better shot at securing a nomination. I think, sadly, we are past the point of trying to position Aimee with a mainstream single. Let's just hope she sells enough copies from her independent label to allow her to continue in the industry. >From: AWeiss4338@aol.com >Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:32:58 EST > . The panalelists gave it a good review, their only quam was that it >was quiet, and maybe not as commerical as it should be. And don't flame me >but I knid of agree. I like quiet so that wasn't it but You Do I think is >a >better choice for a single. Andrea > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 6 00:17:03 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA11870 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:17:02 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.4a77a696 (4544) for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:16:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.4a77a696.257caebb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:16:27 EST Subject: Re: New Aimee To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I agree about Philladelphia too, it was and it won. And if we're going to talk about singles fromB#2 I say Red Vines is it, going by the EP. I think You Do has a better shot at getting a monintaion, than Save Me but we'll see. I kind of agree about mainstream sucess, but Ani Difranco had at least a modern rock hit with In Or Out, so it can happen. I hope B#2 sells enough copies for Aimee to continue, but I honestly wonder, if she does, will the majors come calling again and will she sign with one. My guess is no after everything she's been through but who knows. Andrea >From lv426@pacbell.net Mon Dec 6 02:17:11 1999 Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (mta2.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id CAA26963 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 02:17:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from mother ([206.170.29.203]) by mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with SMTP id <0FMB00BAS8BHEG@mta2.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:16:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 00:18:30 -0800 From: "J.K.Ng" Subject: in reverse To: Aimee Mann Mailing List Reply-to: "J.K.Ng" Message-id: <00c101bf3fc2$7b577e00$cb1daace@mother> Organization: What IV MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01BF3F7F.6CBEBFE0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01BF3F7F.6CBEBFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tonight, i picked up the new matthew sweet cd based on the strenght of = the raves of some of you mannlisters...and i must say that it is an = excellent disc...i liked girlfriend, and i sort of liked 100%fun and was = skeptical about getting this one...it's definitely worth it though...a = real pop gem...so thanks mannlisters ! jinyao That is not dead Which can eternal lie Yet with strange aeons Even death may die -H.P. 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------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01BF3F7F.6CBEBFE0-- >From squeeze@videotron.ca Mon Dec 6 04:58:22 1999 Received: from falla.videotron.net (falla.videotron.net [205.151.222.106]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id EAA04392 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 04:58:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from videotron.ca ([207.253.108.249]) by falla.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.07.30.00.05.p8) with ESMTP id <0FMB00K1LFQMHF@falla.videotron.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 05:56:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:30:08 -0500 From: Dominic Subject: Matthew Sweet + Bachelor No. 2 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: squeeze@videotron.ca Message-id: <38469080.84871221@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <00c101bf3fc2$7b577e00$cb1daace@mother> Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > J.K.Ng wrote: > > tonight, i picked up the new matthew sweet cd based on the strenght of > the raves of some of you mannlisters...and i must say that it is an > excellent disc... Hey, that was probably the best thing you did this year ! I picked up the cd the day it came out and haven't stopped listening to it since. Honestly, I think it will become my favorite cd of the decade. No bad songs on it, extremely catchy power-pop, interesting arrangements, intelligent guitar playing.....what else can there be ? I also just got the Bachelor No. 2 preview cd and I have to say that the songs are quite beautiful. But like certain people mentionned here before, I find that, on the whole, it lacks some of the punch found on previous Aimee cds. But still, it's growing on me each time I listen to it. Can't wait to hear the Magnolia soundtrack.... Take care ! Dominic Montreal >From Pooley29@aol.com Mon Dec 6 08:24:38 1999 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA20072 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:24:37 -0600 (CST) From: Pooley29@aol.com Received: from Pooley29@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id u.0.91ee274f (2702); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:24:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.91ee274f.257d2103@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:24:03 EST Subject: Re: The Magnolia soundtrack To: jase@iaw.on.ca, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Man, I was weeping by the time I finished reading your last posting. Thanks... John Poole >From steve@blueskystudios.com Mon Dec 6 13:29:23 1999 Received: from drums.blueskystudios.com (sendmail@drums.blueskystudios.com [209.208.142.121]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA00511 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:29:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from niagara.blueskyprod.com (hidden-user@maginot.blueskystudios.com [209.208.142.102]) by drums.blueskystudios.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13566 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from redhook.blueskyprod.com (redhook.blueskyprod.com [199.165.156.147]) by niagara.blueskyprod.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15052 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from blueskystudios.com (nyack.blueskyprod.com [199.165.156.59]) by redhook.blueskyprod.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA404138 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:29:00 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Message-ID: <384C0E7B.9015C802@blueskystudios.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 14:28:59 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Organization: Blue Sky Studios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; IRIX64 6.4 IP30) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee Mann/Jon Brion article References: <4.2.0.58.19991202102340.00a47c60@nt3-omnes.london.oilfield.slb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Sender: steve@blueskystudios.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN FYI The Dec. 13th ish of TIME Magazine (with John McCain on the cover) has a one-page article (and an equally nice pic too) of Aimee and her Magnolia involvement, along with a smaller side bar (bottom of page) on Jon Brion. -Steve -- Steve Talkowski Senior Animator / Blue Sky Studios http://www.blueskystudios.com >From DMedsker@aol.com Mon Dec 6 17:18:28 1999 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA04392 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:18:27 -0600 (CST) From: DMedsker@aol.com Received: from DMedsker@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.74c9c6a2 (4113) for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:17:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.74c9c6a2.257d9e22@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:17:54 EST Subject: Build That Wall? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 31 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > I used to correspond with a guy that I met here on this very list back in the > early days. I argued that "Build That Wall" and "Put on Some Speed" were > "Whatever" out-takes. Pardon my ignorance, but is Build That Wall the song that has a line like "It's funny how things get handed down," and "You take it out on her, and she takes it out on you, and you take it out on your new lover"? I remember that line and that song distinctly when I saw TT on the EDN tour. I thought the song would pop up on Whatever, but so far, I haven't seen or heard it since. Any ideas? DAM >From ElizaS33@aol.com Mon Dec 6 17:38:25 1999 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA06633 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:38:24 -0600 (CST) From: ElizaS33@aol.com Received: from ElizaS33@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.c0826fa6 (2702) for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:37:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.c0826fa6.257da2c7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:37:43 EST Subject: Re: Build That Wall? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >>Pardon my ignorance, but is Build That Wall the song that has a line like "It's funny how things get handed down," and "You take it out on her, and she takes it out on you, and you take it out on your new lover"? << Maybe I'm way off base, but that sounds an awful lot like an old Jon Brion song he still plays every once in a while... can't think of the title. Someone requested it by name a few weeks ago, and I don't think it was "Build That Wall" though... The line in his song is, "She took it out on him, and he'll take it out on you, and you'll take it out on you-know-who." Of course, for all I know it's an obscure Aimee song that he covers... or a cowrite, which might make more sense. Elizabeth The Gallery of Indispensable Pop Music http://homepages.go.com/~popgallery >From Salt5@aol.com Mon Dec 6 19:34:29 1999 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA26498 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:34:28 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.185f3f42 (4221); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:33:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.185f3f42.257dbdf9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:33:45 EST Subject: hand me down that damn wall To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN You're right, "Build That Wall" is an Aimee original about building a wall while "Hand Me Down" is a Jon Brion original about shit flowing downhill. They're definitely different songs. Aimee used to play "Hand Me Down" frequently in concert at one time and JB will still play it for you on any given Friday night if you beg for it and give him a cold bottle of Red Bull or a cup of black coffee. As a long-time Mann fan, I always thought of JB as Aimee's answer to Andy Richter. I certainly didn't feel that way after I saw him play live. JB is absolutely amazing! If you haven't seen one of his sets at Largo, you're really missing out on something special. Cheers, John >From robbush@wt.net Mon Dec 6 19:48:32 1999 Received: from sys32.hou.wt.net (sys32.hou.wt.net [205.230.159.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA28166 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:48:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from robbush (216-119-135-224.ipset15.wt.net [216.119.135.224]) by sys32.hou.wt.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA23923 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:48:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <020101bf4054$ba0b5a80$e08777d8@wt.net> From: "Rob Bush" To: Subject: Aimee on a Chevy CD Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:45:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I don't remember who posted about ordering the Lility Fair CD from Chevrolet over the web but my copy arrived today and sure enough, cut #7 was our heroine with "You Could Make a Killing". Cool and it was FREE! Thanks for that hint. (and I've lost the URL for ordering it, sorry) I know that I really screwed up some statistical model somewhere by my demographics (but what the hey, had to buy that Cosmo too). Looking forward to tomorrow and Magnolia - Robert >From Salt5@aol.com Mon Dec 6 19:56:13 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA28871 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:56:11 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.8f6c21cf (4221); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:55:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8f6c21cf.257dc319@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:55:37 EST Subject: cosmo boy iso aimee To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN What's on the cover of the Aimee Cosmo? Denise Richards? I couldn''t find the article. Help! John p.s. Cosmo perfume inserts smell even worse than the ones in Rolling Stone. >From Logan00NC@aol.com Mon Dec 6 20:40:23 1999 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA03038 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:40:22 -0600 (CST) From: Logan00NC@aol.com Received: from Logan00NC@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.3e786068 (4440) for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:39:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3e786068.257dcd6e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:39:42 EST Subject: The new stuff To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN For anyone bored tonight and really desperate to see the cover to Magnolia, you can go to CDnow, soundtracks and search on Magnolia and the cover is there. No samples or anything yet. (most of you guys will prob be sitting listening to Magnolia by the time you read this - the Borders were I live had it in stock tonight but wouldn't sell it to me - I'll slip out of work tomarrow at 9:00 am to buy it and take it back to work to listen to during the day) I know some folks have said they like the punch of Aimee's previous work better than some of the newer songs. Not disputing anyone's taste because its all valid. Just wanted to say I prefer the more subtle production and mood on the new stuff compared to I'm With Stupid. Aimee's voice is clearer, and the songs don't get lost in all the buzz and lo-fi treatment. Every new song I hear blows me away. I'm a longtime fan (since Welcome Home). I loved the last two Til Tuesday records, but when Whatever came out - I was really knocked off my feet at how good the album was and how much she had grown as a writer. I'm With Stupid was a great album, but the new stuff - to my ears - shows a big growth again in songwriting and performance. I prefer the newer lyrics to the IWS material as well. I wouldn't even think to suggest that Aimee write lyrics to please or express anything except herself - thats what we all appreciate about her - her honesty. I'm just more interested in these new songs lyrically than IWS. She seems to be writing about a broader range of feelings and experiences and observations. Thats one of the things I also appreciated about Whatever. The themes of feeling like its impossible to love someone else, or be loved (particularly if you've had a really strong relationship to the point of feeling like you couldn't ever love or be loved as much again - thats an experience that can really close someone up in a frustrating way)....those kinds of thoughts have been on my mind a lot in the past year and so I've been real interested Aimee's take on those kinds of subjects. As far as singles - I'd go with Cigerettes and Red Vines off of B2, but so far my friends that have heard the album all prefer How Am I Different. btw - Anderson included Michael Penn's video for Try on the Boogie Nights DVD, so I'm sure he'll include Save Me on the DVD for Magnolia. With such a large focus being on Aimee with the movie, I'd imagine it would prob have some extra stuff on the dvd about her also. Gotta love it. Jerry >From Logan00NC@aol.com Mon Dec 6 20:56:16 1999 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA03966 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:56:15 -0600 (CST) From: Logan00NC@aol.com Received: from Logan00NC@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.6cefdb6e (4440) for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:55:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6cefdb6e.257dd11e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:55:26 EST Subject: oh yeah To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Oh yeah - this may have been mentioned already - just sort of useless news - in the TV guide/Mtv best 100 videos of all time countdown - Voices Carry came in at #60. Jerry >From GaryLBSP@aol.com Mon Dec 6 21:23:47 1999 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA06860 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:23:45 -0600 (CST) From: GaryLBSP@aol.com Received: from GaryLBSP@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.3e7907e9 (3927) for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:22:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3e7907e9.257dd78c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:22:52 EST Subject: Re: The new stuff To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/6/99 6:41:03 PM, Logan00NC@aol.com writes: << I know some folks have said they like the punch of Aimee's previous work better than some of the newer songs. Not disputing anyone's taste because its all valid. Just wanted to say I prefer the more subtle production and mood on the new stuff compared to I'm With Stupid. Aimee's voice is clearer, and the songs don't get lost in all the buzz and lo-fi treatment. Every new song I hear blows me away. >> I have to agree. While I love Aimee's entire catalogue, I think the simplified and subtle production allows these new beautiful recordings to breathe. IMO, the best work of her career. >From scholars@bellatlantic.net Mon Dec 6 21:29:55 1999 Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA07295 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:29:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from scholars (client-209-158-222-129.bellatlantic.net [209.158.222.129]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA16923 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:35:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007201bf4062$b386ecc0$81de9ed1@scholars> From: "Scholars Gold Trust" To: References: <4.2.0.58.19991202102340.00a47c60@nt3-omnes.london.oilfield.slb.com> <384C0E7B.9015C802@blueskystudios.com> Subject: Re: Aimee Mann/Jon Brion article Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:25:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I just bought the CD from a local record store which slipped up and put one of the CD's on the shelf early. I have listened to it twice. It is a bit deifferent and little less poppy than her previous work. I will have to listen a bit more to give a full opinion. I can say that the material is very good, it is just slightly different from the norm. Aimee's vocals on You Do are simply breath-taking. Gorgeous!!!! Later, Mark S. >From Kenableken@aol.com Mon Dec 6 22:33:06 1999 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA12919 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:33:05 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.883966ed (4412) for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 23:32:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.883966ed.257de7d3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 23:32:19 EST Subject: early purchasers! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN All of you who are reporting early copies on the shelves have inspired several fruitless seaches of my neighborhood record stores...with no luck. I'm just going to have get it with breakfast in the morning. ken f >From sauniere@pop.mindspring.com Tue Dec 7 00:18:18 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA01462 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 00:18:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from pop.mindspring.com (user-2initq6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.119.70] (may be forged)) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29476; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 01:18:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <384C9B67.A61E71AB@pop.mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 22:30:21 -0700 From: Milan Petrovich Reply-To: sauniere@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Subject: Aimee in Print Update Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D03C5022C828FE6EABE01871" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --------------D03C5022C828FE6EABE01871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The archive now tops out at 125 articles. The most recent addition is the Time Magazine review of Magnolia. (There's a great pic of Jon Brion in the sidebar article!) You can read this article and many more at Aimee Mann in Print Several weeks back there was mention of a review in one of the Orange County papers of Aimee's show at the Galaxy Theater in Santa Ana. If anyone knows of the article, please e-mail me with the info. Thanks! Milan --------------D03C5022C828FE6EABE01871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The archive now tops out at 125 articles. The most recent addition is the Time Magazine review of Magnolia. (There's a great pic of Jon Brion in the sidebar article!)

You can read this article and many more at

 Aimee Mann in Print

Several weeks back there was mention of a review in one of the Orange County papers of Aimee's show at the Galaxy Theater in Santa Ana. If anyone knows of the article, please e-mail me with the info.

Thanks!

Milan --------------D03C5022C828FE6EABE01871-- >From ScottRP@aol.com Tue Dec 7 05:24:18 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id FAA17372 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 05:24:17 -0600 (CST) From: ScottRP@aol.com Received: from ScottRP@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ca9ce51b (4328) for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 06:23:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ca9ce51b.257e483f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 06:23:43 EST Subject: From Today's Boston Globe To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN An article on Aimee and the Magnolia can be found at: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/341/living/Aimee_Mann_s_voice_carried_Magnol ia_+.shtml Scott >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Tue Dec 7 06:06:08 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f107.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.107]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id GAA19367 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 06:06:07 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 83673 invoked by uid 0); 7 Dec 1999 12:05:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19991207120536.83672.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.128.45 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:05:36 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.128.45] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: counting the days Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:05:36 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Everyone mark down February 15th on the calendar. I know I will be up at 530AM P.S.T. to hear the nominees. Here is a link to a chart that simplifies the nomination process. There is NO WAY that the small body of the the music branch is going to find FIVE songs that are BETTER than SAVE ME and YOU DO in films in 1999. http://www.oscars.org/awards72/rules72/chart.html Now, I can't see Aimee in a Donna Karan (although she did look fetching at the end of the Voices Carry video), so it begs the question what will Aimee wear to the ceremony. I will GLADLY risk Aimee making ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY's "WORST DRESSED AT THE OSCARS" and will she have Patton or one of her other Largo stand-in comedian voices accept for her? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From 103125.1703@compuserve.com Tue Dec 7 10:44:07 1999 Received: from spdmgaab.compuserve.com (ds-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.206.135]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA03995 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:44:06 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id LAA07533 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:43:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:43:13 -0500 From: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> Subject: Best Original Song Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu To: Mannlist Message-ID: <199912071143_MC2-900C-EE7E@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id KAA03996 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Sender: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Billboard features the Magnolia Soundtrack in it's SPOTLIGHT for this week's reviews. Naturally, it's a glowing review. http://www.billboard.com/reviews/reviewdisplay.asp?ID=86991 Also New Line Cinema placed a full-page, back cover color "Magnolia" "For Your Consideration" ad in the Monday, December 6th edition of Daily Variety Gotham (a trade magazine). I'm sure it will be the first of many. They have a Web site www.newline.com/awards for industry screenings. They are going for: BEST PICTURE Joanne Sellar Paul Thomas Anderson Producer BEST ACTOR John C. Reilly BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Julianne Moore Melora Walters BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR Tom Cruise Philip Baker Hall Philip Seymour Hoffman William H. Macy Jason Robards BEST DIRECTOR Paul Thomas Anderson BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY Paul Thomas Anderson BEST ORIGINAL SCORE Jon Brion BEST ORIGINAL SONG "Save Me" music and lyrics by Aimee Mann and then ALSO: BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN BEST EDITING BEST COSTUME DESIGN BEST VISUAL EFFECTS >From BKbilly@aol.com Tue Dec 7 10:58:00 1999 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA06761 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:57:58 -0600 (CST) From: BKbilly@aol.com Received: from BKbilly@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.19820aab (4261) for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:57:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.19820aab.257e9663@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:57:07 EST Subject: MAGNOLIA: I am in heaven! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ok, I have been an Aimee Fan for a decade and a half, and have bought everything she's done immediately. So this morning was no different. What is different is how delirously happy I am with the CD immediately. It is OUTSTANDING!!!!! There is no track I don't love on it. I was a little worried, because the EP was my least favorite of her works thus far (I still loved it, but less), but there was no reason for concern. Magnolia is her finest work overall to this point, in my estimation. Every song is filled with the kind of intelligence, melody, insight, and beauty I have come to expect, just more so. Love: Driving Sideways, Save Me, You Do, Build That Wall, Deathly. Already had loved Wise Up, Momentum, and her version of One. Am not sure what I would do for a single. Any number of her songs would immediately attract attention from people who love good music, and I mean IMMEDIATELY. But the world is not necessarily full of such people, and the pop scene does not depend on them, so I don't know whether she'll break through here, sorry. But does it matter? I admit it would be nice for her to get major acclaim and get noticed for what she does, but so what if she doesn't become a "star?" That has never been her aim to begin with. By the way, did everyone see the Dec. 13 Time Magazine article? Wonderful stuff. Just glowing about Aimee and the Soundtrack \. Can't wait for the Save Me video. Any idea about when that may start getting some play? VH-1? I have been disappointed with VH1's lack of interest in Mann, given their pre-occupation with female artists. I wrote them a long e-mail two months ago, hyping the soundtrack and EP as a great story about to unfurl, and heard nothing back... Bill K. in Connecticut >From rhardack@hotmail.com Tue Dec 7 11:16:14 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f44.hotmail.com [209.185.130.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id LAA10807 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:16:00 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 70780 invoked by uid 0); 7 Dec 1999 17:15:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19991207171517.70779.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.32.29.86 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:15:16 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.32.29.86] From: "Richard Hardack" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: TT trades? Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:15:16 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Greetings-- I just wanted to see if anyone had any Til Tuesday 3rd (or missing 4th?) album era live material or demos they'd be willing to trade: I've never heard any of the other songs from that period (didn't even know they existed until the last post!) If anyone's interested in a trade (I've got a pretty ecelctic list of obscurities), please e-mail me off list. Thanks! Richard ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From ElizaS33@aol.com Tue Dec 7 11:49:00 1999 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA16213 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:48:58 -0600 (CST) From: ElizaS33@aol.com Received: from ElizaS33@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.1c523688 (6104) for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:48:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.1c523688.257ea267@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:48:23 EST Subject: Magnolia=Magnificent To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I got a promo of the soundtrack yesterday (and yes, I'm buying one too... this one skips anyway!) and it's just wonderful. I think I'm going to like this more than what I've heard of Bachelor No. 2 (which I really like, but suspect I would listen to more often if I were actively mad at somebody and required catharsis). All of Aimee's songs are just wonderful, and Jon Brion's track is great... it manages to sound both like a movie score and like Jon, which isn't a combo I could have imagined on my own, I don't think. I think my favorites at the moment are Deathly and You Do (reserving judgment on Save Me, which skips a LOT); I'm totally in love with the arrangement on Build That Wall, although the song itself isn't registering with me quite as much as the others yet. I can't imagine, assuming the movie is successful, how this *wouldn't* be an enormous boost to Aimee's solo career. Elizabeth The Gallery of Indispensable Pop Music http://homepages.go.com/~popgallery >From loehr@javanet.com Tue Dec 7 12:12:28 1999 Received: from kona.javanet.com (kona.javanet.com [209.94.128.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA24872 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:12:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (loehr@localhost) by kona.javanet.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA03831 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:15:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:15:43 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: TT trades? In-Reply-To: <19991207171517.70779.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Richard Hardack wrote: > Greetings-- I just wanted to see if anyone had any Til Tuesday 3rd (or > missing 4th?) album era live material or demos they'd be willing to trade: > I've never heard any of the other songs from that period (didn't even know > they existed until the last post!) If anyone's interested in a trade (I've > got a pretty ecelctic list of obscurities), please e-mail me off list. > Thanks! Richard > Let me echo Richard's message -- I'm always looking for rare Aimee recordings; I don't have any Til Tuesday stuff, but do have some rare Aimee (a couple live, the B-sides discs, a couple radio) as well as an assortment of Crowded House, Neil Finn, Robyn Hitchcock, Richard Thompson, and numerous others to trade, if anyone's interested... Eric >From Kenableken@aol.com Tue Dec 7 13:50:34 1999 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA11103 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:50:33 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.716a7c19 (4242) for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:49:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.716a7c19.257ebee6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:49:58 EST Subject: Magnolia in Manhattan To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Has anyone else had trouble finding Magnolia in stores? the Virgin Megastore had no copies today, and had no idea when they would. Tower did have it, and I bought it, and I am totally in love with "Driving Sideways", "You Do" (which actually nearly made me cry as I was walking down the street), and, of course, "Save Me". >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Tue Dec 7 14:25:13 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA16584 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:25:11 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:30:42 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.77 [206.8.2.77] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 134370B7AC2811D3AE3A006097D4776C for plus 1 more; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:30:42 -0600 Date: 07 Dec 99 14:26:25 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Magnolia in Minneapolis (downtown) To: Kenableken CC: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991207143042.134370b7ac2811d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 4A2F94FC-ACCE11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id OAA16588 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: Magnolia in Minneapolis (downtown) Sam Goody had nothing, though Sheryl Crow's new album was prominently displayed. Barnes and Noble had ONE copy, and I had to dig to find it. (They also had a copy of IWS, which I put at the front of the row for better display). Jack On 12/7/99, Kenableken wrote: Has anyone else had trouble finding Magnolia in stores? the Virgin Megastore had no copies today, and had no idea when they would. Tower did have it, and I bought it >From Larry.Iaquinta@anheuser-busch.com Tue Dec 7 14:38:09 1999 Received: from gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com (gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com [151.145.250.252]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id OAA18606 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:38:05 -0600 (CST) Received: by gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com; id OAA01200; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:38:36 -0600 Received: from stlexggtw002-pozzoli.fw-users.busch.com(151.145.101.130) by gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com via smap (V5.0) id xma001084; Tue, 7 Dec 99 14:38:27 -0600 Received: from stlabcexg004.anheuser-busch.com ([151.145.101.160]) by 151.145.101.130 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 20:36:05 0000 (GMT) Received: by stlabcexg004.anheuser-busch.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:36:00 -0600 Message-ID: <299BF5F5EF5ED31196760008C7D9AE5D455A9B@STLABCEXG022> From: "Iaquinta, Larry" To: "'Jack Steinmann'" , Kenableken Cc: mannlist Subject: RE: Magnolia in Minneapolis (downtown) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:36:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I work above a mall in St. Louis, and neither music store in the mall had a copy. This did not surprise me however, since both of the stores suck. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Steinmann [SMTP:jsteinmann@clynch.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 2:26 PM > To: Kenableken > Cc: mannlist > Subject: Magnolia in Minneapolis (downtown) > > Reply to: Magnolia in Minneapolis (downtown) > > Sam Goody had nothing, though Sheryl Crow's new album was prominently > displayed. Barnes and Noble had ONE copy, and I had to dig to find it. (They > also had a copy of IWS, which I put at the front of the row for better > display). > > > Jack > > > On 12/7/99, Kenableken wrote: > Has anyone else had trouble finding Magnolia in stores? the Virgin Megastore > had no copies today, and had no idea when they would. Tower did have it, and > I bought it > >From pasquinade@erols.com Tue Dec 7 14:49:01 1999 Received: from isocor.reliastar.com (root@mail.reliastar.com [204.86.50.23]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA20398 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:48:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from erols.com (z23694.reliastar.com [172.16.31.215]) by isocor.reliastar.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26444 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:48:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <384D72AE.E67150A6@erols.com> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 15:48:46 -0500 From: Ed Lynn Reply-To: pasquinade@erols.com X-Sender: "Ed Lynn" <@mail.reliastar.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-RS402-1 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Magnolia in Minneapolis (downtown) References: <299BF5F5EF5ED31196760008C7D9AE5D455A9B@STLABCEXG022> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > > On 12/7/99, Kenableken wrote: > > Has anyone else had trouble finding Magnolia in stores? the Virgin Megastore > > had no copies today, and had no idea when they would. Tower did have it, and > > I bought it > > From: Jack Steinmann [SMTP:jsteinmann@clynch.com] > > Sam Goody had nothing, though Sheryl Crow's new album was prominently > > displayed. Barnes and Noble had ONE copy, and I had to dig to find it. (They > > also had a copy of IWS, which I put at the front of the row for better > > display). >"Iaquinta, Larry" wrote: > I work above a mall in St. Louis, and neither music store in the mall had a > copy. This did not surprise me however, since both of the stores suck. Mall stores have that tendency. Our local Best Buy is usually good about getting new releases out on Tuesday. That's where I picked up my copy today, although I would've been happy to see it more prominently displayed. Looked like they had about ten copies in the rack. Now it's time for me to overindulge in Magnolia (at least until the full B#2 comes out). >From gkomoto@jps.net Tue Dec 7 14:49:36 1999 Received: from smtp5.jps.net (smtp5.jps.net [209.63.224.55]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA20489 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:49:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from jps.net (smfcam.jps.net [209.63.224.19] (may be forged)) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA22696 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:49:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Greg Komoto" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: gkomoto@jps.net To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:49:12 GMT Subject: Another Magnolia article with Aimee content X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.3b, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <384d72c8.7503.0@jps.net> X-User-Info: 132.233.247.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: gkomoto@jps.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey kids look at this... http://www.ptanderson.com/Articles%20&%20Interviews/anderson's_valley.htm Its an interview with Paul Thomas Anderson about the film and his inspiration for the screen play. He goes on in length (even more so than the liner notes) about the impact the music had on the movie. Other news and tidbits: * A review is posted on www.billboard.com under Reviews. Its a "Spotlight" review. * Premiere is tomorrow in LA, Aimee and Michael are mentioned in the press release (and the rest of the Penns as well) >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Tue Dec 7 15:03:38 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA23220 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:03:30 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 07 Dec 1999 15:07:52 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.77 [206.8.2.77] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 13437182AC2811D3AE3A006097D4776C for plus 1 more; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 15:07:52 -0600 Date: 07 Dec 99 15:03:19 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Another Magnolia To: gkomoto CC: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991207150752.13437182ac2811d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 4A2F9694-ACCE11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id PAA23246 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Another Magnolia In the past Ms. Mann has had a standing Tuesday night residency at Largo. You don't suppose there's a Magnolia record release party there tonight, do you? Jack On 12/7/99, Greg Komoto wrote: * Premiere is tomorrow in LA, Aimee and Michael are mentioned in the press release (and the rest of the Penns as well) >From Kenableken@aol.com Tue Dec 7 15:05:12 1999 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA23510 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:05:08 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id p.0.dcd82341 (4240); Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:04:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.dcd82341.257ed04b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:04:11 EST Subject: Billboard review To: gkomoto@jps.net, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id PAA23512 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Here is the text of the Billboard review: It’s been a hot second—OK, years!—since Aimee Mann released her two acclaimed solo albums, “Whatever” and “I’m With Stupid.” So, fans of the former ’Til Tuesday front woman will be rejoicing—and rightly so—with the release of “Magnolia.” Of the album’s 13 tracks, Mann contributed eight original compositions and a breathtaking cover of the Harry Nilsson-penned “One,” which was a top five hit for Three Dog Night in the late ’60s. In signature Mann fashion, the songs are steeped in a brutally honest brilliance. “Save Me” is a tale of emotional rescue; “You Do” is about unrequited love; “Momentum” offers a harshly realistic look at life’s not-always-happy journey; and “Build That Wall” revels in helplessness. Also included are two late-’70s Supertramp gems (“Goodbye Stranger” and “Logical Song”) and Gabrielle’s sublime acousti-spliced R&B crossover hit, “Dreams.” Throughout, though, “Magnolia” is a beautiful and sincere spotlight for singer/songwriter Mann, who obviously has a great admirer in Paul Thomas Anderson, the director of “Magnolia” (and “Boogie Nights”). >From Kenableken@aol.com Tue Dec 7 15:07:29 1999 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA23932 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:07:25 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id 1.0.77b2e43d (4240); Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:06:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.77b2e43d.257ed0ed@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:06:53 EST Subject: re: Another Magnolia To: jsteinmann@clynch.com, gkomoto@jps.net CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN She is performing tonight, according to the website... >From greg.antoniono@springstreet.com Tue Dec 7 15:32:20 1999 Received: from te03.springstreet.com (te03.springstreet.com [216.32.161.17]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA28365 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:32:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from tiger (nat.sf.springstreet.com [206.229.122.3]) by te03.springstreet.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/springstreet-cyrus-2.0) with SMTP id NAA06645 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:31:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <019301bf40fb$20e41250$8400000a@tiger.sf.springstreet.com> From: "Greg Antoniono" To: Subject: Re: Magnolia song list Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:36:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I would suggest that Mann devotees log on to Amazon.com and post positive reviews of the Magnolia soundtrack. Currently, there are no reviews ... Greg >From ElizaS33@aol.com Tue Dec 7 15:36:44 1999 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA29311 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:36:41 -0600 (CST) From: ElizaS33@aol.com Received: from ElizaS33@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.4c712883 (2712) for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:36:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.4c712883.257ed7c3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:36:03 EST Subject: re: Another Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >>In the past Ms. Mann has had a standing Tuesday night residency at Largo. You don't suppose there's a Magnolia record release party there tonight, do you?<< She and Michael are definitely playing tonight, but I haven't heard about any sort of official event. I'd imagine it'll pretty much qualify as a party anyway... Elizabeth The Gallery of Indispensable Pop Music http://homepages.go.com/~popgallery >From Kenableken@aol.com Tue Dec 7 16:11:05 1999 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA05914 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:11:03 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.38eeaccf (7360) for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:10:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.38eeaccf.257edfd1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:10:25 EST Subject: Re: Magnolia song list To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN They don't accept reviews on amazon until the day of release, due to people posting reviews of discs they haven't yet listened to. And it takes a few days for them to appear. But we should all post. >From angusmcg@ix.netcom.com Tue Dec 7 16:32:30 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA08237 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:32:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from 26140 (lai-ca4d-170.ix.netcom.com [209.110.247.170]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10005 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:32:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991207143217.00a3e930@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: angusmcg@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:33:36 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Angela McGregor Subject: Re: Magnolia in Manhattan In-Reply-To: <0.716a7c19.257ebee6@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_25481703==_.ALT" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --=====================_25481703==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed How funny. I had exactly the same experience in West Hollywood -- went to Virgin, they didn't have it (by about 1pm) and then walked to Tower on Sunset and bought it there with the help of a shop guy. It totally rocks. At 02:49 PM 12/7/99 -0500, Kenableken@aol.com wrote: >Has anyone else had trouble finding Magnolia in stores? the Virgin Megastore >had no copies today, and had no idea when they would. Tower did have it, and >I bought it, and I am totally in love with "Driving Sideways", "You Do" >(which actually nearly made me cry as I was walking down the street), and, of >course, "Save Me". Angela McGregor www.frigidisk.com --=====================_25481703==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" How funny.  I had exactly the same experience in West Hollywood -- went to Virgin, they didn't have it (by about 1pm) and then walked to Tower on Sunset and bought it there with the help of a shop guy.

It totally rocks.


At 02:49 PM 12/7/99 -0500, Kenableken@aol.com wrote:

Has anyone else had trouble finding Magnolia in stores?  the Virgin Megastore
had no copies today, and had no idea when they would.  Tower did have it, and
I bought it, and I am totally in love with "Driving Sideways", "You Do"
(which actually nearly made me cry as I was walking down the street), and, of
course, "Save Me".

Angela McGregor
www.frigidisk.com --=====================_25481703==_.ALT-- >From angusmcg@ix.netcom.com Tue Dec 7 16:35:07 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA08674 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:35:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from 26140 (lai-ca4d-170.ix.netcom.com [209.110.247.170]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14084 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:35:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991207143540.00a279d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: angusmcg@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 14:36:14 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Angela McGregor Subject: re: Another Magnolia In-Reply-To: <0.77b2e43d.257ed0ed@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_25640103==_.ALT" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --=====================_25640103==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed She'd better be. We've got reservations! Which reminds me...it isn't sold out...yet. At 04:06 PM 12/7/99 -0500, Kenableken@aol.com wrote: >She is performing tonight, according to the website... Angela McGregor www.frigidisk.com --=====================_25640103==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" She'd better be.  We've got reservations!  Which reminds me...it isn't sold out...yet.


At 04:06 PM 12/7/99 -0500, Kenableken@aol.com wrote:
She is performing tonight, according to the website...

Angela McGregor
www.frigidisk.com --=====================_25640103==_.ALT-- >From Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com Tue Dec 7 16:36:27 1999 Received: from mailsrv.frc.com (mail.frc.com [208.235.135.211]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA08908 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:36:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from hqmail01.frc.com ([172.20.12.21]) by mailsrv.frc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1067 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:35:53 -0500 Received: by HQMAIL01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:35:51 -0500 Message-ID: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A6327@HQMAIL01> From: "Bachman, Michael" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: TT trades? Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:35:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I would also be interested in later period live TT items. Is this something that Aimee could release on aimeemann.com? I would be more than happy to shell out the money for any rare TT live stuff. I lost my contact at work for any cd burning in trade, but I would be open to supply blanks and shipping money if this isn't going to happen from aimeemann.com Michael -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hardack [mailto:rhardack@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 12:15 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: TT trades? Greetings-- I just wanted to see if anyone had any Til Tuesday 3rd (or missing 4th?) album era live material or demos they'd be willing to trade: I've never heard any of the other songs from that period (didn't even know they existed until the last post!) If anyone's interested in a trade (I've got a pretty ecelctic list of obscurities), please e-mail me off list. Thanks! Richard ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com Tue Dec 7 16:52:58 1999 Received: from mailsrv.frc.com (mail.frc.com [208.235.135.211]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA11006 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:52:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from hqmail01.frc.com ([172.20.12.21]) by mailsrv.frc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1142 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:52:26 -0500 Received: by HQMAIL01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:52:24 -0500 Message-ID: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A6328@HQMAIL01> From: "Bachman, Michael" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: Another Magnolia Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:52:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Is it too early to ask if anyone knows about a full band tour? Does anyone know when the time table for this would be next year? Michael PS For anyone in the southeast Michigan area, Harmony House stores have numerous copies of Magnolia. I got my copy at noon. -----Original Message----- From: ElizaS33@aol.com [mailto:ElizaS33@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 4:36 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: re: Another Magnolia >>In the past Ms. Mann has had a standing Tuesday night residency at Largo. You don't suppose there's a Magnolia record release party there tonight, do you?<< She and Michael are definitely playing tonight, but I haven't heard about any sort of official event. I'd imagine it'll pretty much qualify as a party anyway... Elizabeth The Gallery of Indispensable Pop Music http://homepages.go.com/~popgallery >From sproude@earthlink.net Tue Dec 7 18:29:07 1999 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA28834 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:29:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from earthlink.net (sdn-ar-002sccolup092.dialsprint.net [206.133.75.180]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24842 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:29:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <384DA67B.20B730F3@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 19:29:47 -0500 From: SMP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist Subject: The new phone book's here ..i'm somebody now Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have just received my copy of magnolia. I have to say this is a very special day and so It gave me pause to appreciate all of you. If not for you all, I would have to run home and enjoy this in my own little world thinking I was the only geek on the planet getting all worked up about this event-- but we are all so excited--so that makes it more special. I am so far very partial to "Save Me"..its absolutely beautiful. I really love you all. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all. smp >From MANNINFO@aol.com Tue Dec 7 18:49:22 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA03010 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:49:21 -0600 (CST) From: MANNINFO@aol.com Received: from MANNINFO@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.8a48e06c (4259) for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:48:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8a48e06c.257f04ea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:48:42 EST Subject: Aimee Mann's new online store To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Claris Emailer v2.0 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The soundtrack album to the movie "Magnolia", featuring nine recordings by Aimee, is out now and can be purchased from Aimee directly at her new store http://www.aimeemanndirect.com, or just click the "SHOP" button at http://www.aimeemann.com. The store now accepts all forms of payment (yes, you can finally use your credit cards). T-shirts, posters and other new music will be coming soon so keep checking back! check out aimeemann.com for all the latest news >From Logan00NC@aol.com Tue Dec 7 20:58:34 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA20077 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:58:33 -0600 (CST) From: Logan00NC@aol.com Received: from Logan00NC@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.11056c0d (4158) for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 21:57:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.11056c0d.257f2332@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 21:57:54 EST Subject: Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Was glad to read the posts today and see that others were as moved by "You Do" as I was. The whole disc is fantastic. You Do stands out for me as one of the most beautiful, and dare I say captivating songs I've heard in years. Its gentle and yet firm all at once. I really envy Aimee's talent. In reading over the production notes, I'm really thankful that Aimee works with and is surrounded with such great musicians. Reading the notes was like a who's who of the Aimee musical family. I'm glad they're all there. Jerry >From shteevea@earthlink.net Tue Dec 7 21:48:21 1999 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA28978 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 21:48:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from steve (dialup-209.245.175.3.Seattle1.Level3.net [209.245.175.3]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA13624 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:48:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven E. Alter" To: Subject: RE: Magnolia Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:49:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0.11056c0d.257f2332@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN What a happy accident that after many visits to Aimee's site I for some reason chose today to click on the mail button and stumble onto this great community. God, magnolia is good. Which shouldn't surprise those of us who are avid fans of Ms. Mann's, but I still can't help but be amazed at her talent -- she is a truly GREAT songwriter. Lets hope the movie is fabulous so gajillions of people see it and rush out to buy the album. "You Do" is gorgeous, though I actually think "Momentum" and "Deathly" may be the best shots for AAA radio play. If there's a God, this will be one masterpiece that doesn't just make everbody's ten best list and then stiffs. In addition to the Billboard review, this week's issue of TIME -- with John McCain on the cover -- has a nice piece on the record, calling it the best thing to happen to soundtracks since "The Graduate." There's also a great sidebar on Mr. Brion. Steve PS -- The record's so good, I don't even mind the Supertramp songs on it! -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Logan00NC@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 6:58 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Magnolia Was glad to read the posts today and see that others were as moved by "You Do" as I was. The whole disc is fantastic. You Do stands out for me as one of the most beautiful, and dare I say captivating songs I've heard in years. Its gentle and yet firm all at once. I really envy Aimee's talent. In reading over the production notes, I'm really thankful that Aimee works with and is surrounded with such great musicians. Reading the notes was like a who's who of the Aimee musical family. I'm glad they're all there. Jerry >From MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Tue Dec 7 22:28:02 1999 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA02723 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:28:02 -0600 (CST) From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Received: from MnnyMoNHak@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.5c5a699e (3977) for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 23:27:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.5c5a699e.257f382e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 23:27:26 EST Subject: Re: Build That Wall To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN "Build That Wall" and "Momentum" are both outtakes from "Whatever," so we're really getting quite the mix of old and new on the "Magnolia" album. >From incubus1@ix.netcom.com Tue Dec 7 22:28:06 1999 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (smtp7.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA02729 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:28:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sji-ca3-172.ix.netcom.com [209.109.233.172]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA32024 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 23:28:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <384D6D87.F2608D7F@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 20:26:47 +0000 From: Rob Moore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: The new phone book's here ..i'm somebody now References: <384DA67B.20B730F3@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey SMP- I too am celebrating this momentous occasion. It's cool to be here with fellow believers... I think the floodgates are about to open though! It's gonna be so cool to have someone so deserving, be so vindicated, and to know that integrity can succeed. Deathly's got me by the eardrums to begin with, I loved this song when I saw Aimee in SF a coupla months ago... still magical, as they all are. Take Care All Wishing he was about 500 miles south in a certain club- Rob SMP wrote: > I have just received my copy of magnolia. I have to say this is a very > special day and so It gave me pause to appreciate all of you. If not > for you all, I would have to run home and enjoy this in my own little > world thinking I was the only geek on the planet getting all worked up > about this event-- but we are all so excited--so that makes it more > special. > > I am so far very partial to "Save Me"..its absolutely beautiful. > > I really love you all. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all. > > smp >From skilroy@earthlink.net Tue Dec 7 22:28:31 1999 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA02794 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:28:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.20.31] (1Cust31.tnt18.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.20.31]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05128 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:28:28 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 23:28:28 -0500 Subject: Fiona Apple/Jon Brion/Aimee Mann From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Just got the new Fiona Apple cd and here are my initial thoughts. I am struck by how much more listenable "When the Pawn" is compared to "Tidal". The production of Jon Brion is so apparent here, specifically in the songs "On the Bound", "Limp", and "Paper Bag". "Paper Bag" specifically reminds me of an Aimee song. A major step up for Fiona. A question that I am sure I missed the answer to: what was Jon Brion's involvement in Bachelor No. 2? Maybe it's just Patrick Warren's participation, but "When the Pawn" and "Bachelor No. 2" have some similarities in sound. What do you think? Am I smoking crack? sl >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 8 00:21:12 1999 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA25017 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:21:12 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.456339b0 (4537) for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 01:20:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.456339b0.257f52b4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 01:20:36 EST Subject: Re: Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I agree, You Do is great. Save Me will probably get AAA airplay, as will maybe Deftly and Momuntium. I hope being on the top ten lists of the critics will mean something this time. Lucinda Williams did it this way, and she pulled off a sleeper hit with Car Wheels On A Gravel Road. Andrea >From incubus1@ix.netcom.com Wed Dec 8 00:26:55 1999 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (smtp7.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA27174 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:26:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sji-ca3-172.ix.netcom.com [209.109.233.172]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA30816 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 01:26:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <384D8960.42C3AE77@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 22:25:37 +0000 From: Rob Moore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Fiona Apple/Jon Brion/Aimee Mann References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I got it because of the Aimee connection... doesn't grab me like Aimee stuff. Surprised me because I like EVERY thing I've heard JB do. I'll keep trying. I trust it's there. Rob Spencer Lewis wrote: > Just got the new Fiona Apple cd and here are my initial thoughts. I am > struck by how much more listenable "When the Pawn" is compared to "Tidal". > The production of Jon Brion is so apparent here, specifically in the songs > "On the Bound", "Limp", and "Paper Bag". "Paper Bag" specifically reminds > me of an Aimee song. A major step up for Fiona. > > A question that I am sure I missed the answer to: what was Jon Brion's > involvement in Bachelor No. 2? Maybe it's just Patrick Warren's > participation, but "When the Pawn" and "Bachelor No. 2" have some > similarities in sound. > > What do you think? Am I smoking crack? > > sl >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 8 01:37:31 1999 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id BAA02478 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 01:37:30 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.61cb7fa9 (4232) for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 02:37:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.61cb7fa9.257f64aa@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 02:37:14 EST Subject: Time Magazine/Bilboard To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Wonderful review in Bilboard, great article in Time about Aimee and Jon. But I couldn't help noticing, and I don't mean to be flip as I like Jon a lot, but has anyone notced with the photo of Jon, which is cool, that he looks a little like Hillary Swank in Boys Don't Cry :). ANdrea >From ScottRP@aol.com Wed Dec 8 06:10:12 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id GAA15354 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 06:10:12 -0600 (CST) From: ScottRP@aol.com Received: from ScottRP@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.845d6436 (3970) for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 07:09:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.845d6436.257fa482@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 07:09:38 EST Subject: Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I will leave the review to others more capable in that regard. I was wondering if there was a reason why none of the songs from B#2 which appear on the Magnolia Soundtrack (Driving Sideways, Deathly, You Do) were among those on the B#2 promo. Is this an Oscar thing? I must admit that the songs on Magnolia take 2 or 3 listens to become catchy, but I already found myself singing them in the shower this AM so they must be pretty memorable. Scott >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Wed Dec 8 08:55:32 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA04415 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:55:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:00:36 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.77 [206.8.2.77] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 134378D4AC2811D3AE3A006097D4776C for ; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:00:36 -0600 Date: 08 Dec 99 08:56:15 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Magnolia To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991208090036.134378d4ac2811d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 4A2FAB2A-ACCE11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id IAA04417 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Magnolia Well... think about it. If you were offering, just a few months ago, a preview EP of your new album would you want to offer up the same songs slated for the imminent Magnolia soundtrack? I suspect the lack of overlap is deliberate. When the full-length B#2 is released, on the other hand, it will contain just two songs not already available to us: "Ghost World" and "It Takes Al Kinds." Jack On 12/8/99, Scott wrote: I was wondering if there was a reason why none of the songs from B#2 which appear on the Magnolia Soundtrack (Driving Sideways, Deathly, You Do) were among those on the B#2 promo. Is this an Oscar thing? >From velvetpop@hotmail.com Wed Dec 8 08:57:05 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f61.hotmail.com [209.185.131.124]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id IAA04592 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:57:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 4524 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 1999 14:56:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19991208145631.4523.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.26.7.147 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 06:56:31 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.26.7.147] From: "chopkins beasley" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Our Girl! Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 06:56:31 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN First of all, I don't know how to spell a really loud scream but, I think we're all doing it about now!!!WEEEEEEEE Just a quick note...This month's Gig magazine has Patrick Warren as their hired-gun interview. There's a nice plug from the writer about his Love of Aimee and the Largo shows. Also a nice, fairly recent pic of Aimee with Patrick. I saw "Being John Malcovich" the other night and as we walked in the preveiw for Magnolia was playing! I yelled .... AIMEE MANN WOO HOO...or something like that. Oh you guys.. I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!! XO Jane ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Wed Dec 8 09:24:43 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA06253 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:24:42 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:30:24 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.77 [206.8.2.77] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 134379B0AC2811D3AE3A006097D4776C for ; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:30:23 -0600 Date: 08 Dec 99 09:26:03 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: The new phone book's here ..i'm somebody now To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991208093024.134379b0ac2811d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 4A2FADF3-ACCE11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id JAA06254 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: The new phone book's here ..i'm somebody now I hope the floodgates are about to open, especially if the retailers will actually display the product. Best Buy had ONE copy. Target had nothing. Jack On 12/7/99, Rob Moore wrote: It's cool to be here with fellow believers... I think the floodgates are about to open though! It's gonna be so cool to have someone so deserving, be so vindicated, and to know that integrity can succeed. >From russn@thestandard.com Wed Dec 8 11:42:06 1999 Received: from gimlet.thestandard.net (mail.thestandard.net [209.0.34.132]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA18293 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:41:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from [209.247.251.157] (209.247.251.157 [209.247.251.157]) by gimlet.thestandard.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id X860H7GG; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:43:35 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: russn@mail.thestandard.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:44:56 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Russ Nordmeyer Subject: Magnolia preview Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey kids, Question for you all. Have any of you been seeing the Magnolia preview on tv or in theaters? I've seen LOTS of movies lately, and haven't seen the preview once. Also, I've only seen it on MTV once, and that was during the music award a month or two ago. That seems odd to me. Russ >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Wed Dec 8 12:05:21 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA20510 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 12:05:20 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:59:01 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.77 [206.8.2.77] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 13437DD2AC2811D3AE3A006097D4776C for ; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:59:01 -0600 Date: 08 Dec 99 11:54:38 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Magnolia preview To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991208115901.13437dd2ac2811d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: AE1477E7-AD8D11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id MAA20514 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Magnolia preview There are a couple different previews running on VH1, and I've seen one of them a couple times in movie theaters... Jack On 12/8/99, Russ Nordmeyer wrote: Have any of you been seeing the Magnolia preview on tv or in theaters? I've seen LOTS of movies lately, and haven't seen the preview once. Also, I've only seen it on MTV once, and that was during the music award a month or two ago. >From TorgJamesJ@aol.com Wed Dec 8 16:02:18 1999 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA26700 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:02:17 -0600 (CST) From: TorgJamesJ@aol.com Received: from TorgJamesJ@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.2f49211a (3972) for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:01:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.2f49211a.25802f47@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:01:43 EST Subject: Re: Magnolia preview To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 52 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Our Darling Aimee graces the cover of the LA Times Calendar section! So wonderful to see her in print, in color! Cheers, TORG >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 8 16:03:15 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f51.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id QAA26816 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:03:02 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 68502 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 1999 22:02:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19991208220200.68501.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.138.125 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:02:00 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.138.125] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: re: Magnolia Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:02:00 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I totally agree. Additionally, Aimee may not have total control over the common tracks (even though she bought the rights to them) for a certain period of time. I know if I contracted Aimee to write original music for a soundtrack, I would want a stipulation that it not appear anywhere else prior to the release of the soundtrack. It might hamper sales. Previously released songs like Supertramps would not apply. Sadly, there are only two songs unavailable to us already on B2, but remember that the others will be the mastered versions, so we will have updated versions of many of the previously released tracks. >From: "Jack Steinmann" >> Reply to: re: Magnolia > >Well... think about it. If you were offering, just a few months ago, a >preview EP of your new album would you want to offer up the same songs >slated for the imminent Magnolia soundtrack? I suspect the lack of overlap >is deliberate. When the full-length B#2 is released, on the other hand, it >will contain just two songs not already available to us: "Ghost World" and >"It Takes Al Kinds." > > >Jack > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 8 16:11:45 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f164.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.164]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id QAA27708 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:11:37 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 31979 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 1999 22:10:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19991208221057.31978.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.138.125 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:10:57 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.138.125] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Magnolia preview Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:10:57 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN It might depend on the movies you are seeing and the channels you are watching. I saw the preview at a couple of movies including BEING JOHN MALKOVICH and THE BACHELOR. I also saw a MAGNOLIA preview on MTV (during some inane celebrity favorite video show; I was at someone else's home or I would have turned the channel). Saw one on VH1 too I believe. I doubt you will see a Magnolia trailer at, oh say, END OF DAYS or TOY STORY 2. The same would be true about ABC's TGIF line-up or ANY CBS show as their age demographic is like Angela Landsbury and older. ;-) Odd note: the MTV preview that I saw of Magnolia was Mann-less. From what I made out, I didn't hear any Aimee Mann music playing. >From: Russ Nordmeyer >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Magnolia preview >Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:44:56 -0800 > >Hey kids, > >Question for you all. Have any of you been seeing the Magnolia >preview on tv or in theaters? I've seen LOTS of movies lately, and >haven't seen the preview once. Also, I've only seen it on MTV once, >and that was during the music award a month or two ago. That seems >odd to me. > >Russ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From brentm@autobahn.mb.ca Wed Dec 8 16:32:40 1999 Received: from mail.autobahn.mb.ca (mail.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.26]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA29382 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:32:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from winklovic (a12MXG117.autobahn.mb.ca [206.45.254.117]) by mail.autobahn.mb.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3/AAC/AD) with SMTP id QAA23825 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:32:36 -0600 (CST) From: "Brent Mazur" To: Subject: RE: Magnolia preview Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:32:17 -0600 Message-ID: <000001bf41cc$1525dd00$75fe2dce@winklovic> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0.2f49211a.25802f47@aol.com> Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN You can read the LA Times story here: http://www.calendarlive.com/calendarlive/music/aimee.htm Brent Mazur Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Our Darling Aimee graces the cover of the LA Times Calendar section! >So wonderful to see her in print, in color! >Cheers, >TORG > > >From tingalls@coastalnet.com Wed Dec 8 21:01:26 1999 Received: from phoenix.coastalnet.com (phoenix.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA09319 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:01:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from pavilion (pm-wsh6-174.coastalnet.com [205.245.121.174]) by phoenix.coastalnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA21047 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:01:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00ed01bf41f1$e45eb900$ae79f5cd@pavilion> From: "Terry Ingalls" To: Subject: Re: TT trades? Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:02:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi, I got the new release on Monday and am very pleased with it. I don't know if there's a single on it for the Pepsi generation, but great stuff nonetheless. Very few great artists are celebrated during their creative period or sometimes even their lifetime. Ask countless great blues musicians and they will tell you so. However, as someone else has already said, that's not why she does it. I'm sure she would like the recognition for great work over a top 40 single anyway. I would also like to put in a request for early TT demo/rarities or other solo things not on the 2 Killer B-sides discs. To trade, I have a copy of the 1986 King Biscuit Flower Hour double LP. In additional to some great performances by TT of the first 2 albums, there are some interesting Aimee promo spots on the disc, "Hi, this is Aimee Mann of Til Tuesday and you're listening to the King Biscuit Flower Hour", etc.. If anyone is interested in a trade, please email me off the list. Thanks, Terry -----Original Message----- From: Eric Loehr To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 1:15 PM Subject: Re: TT trades? >On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Richard Hardack wrote: > >> Greetings-- I just wanted to see if anyone had any Til Tuesday 3rd (or >> missing 4th?) album era live material or demos they'd be willing to trade: >> I've never heard any of the other songs from that period (didn't even know >> they existed until the last post!) If anyone's interested in a trade (I've >> got a pretty ecelctic list of obscurities), please e-mail me off list. >> Thanks! Richard >> >Let me echo Richard's message -- I'm always looking for rare >Aimee recordings; I don't have any Til Tuesday stuff, but >do have some rare Aimee (a couple live, the B-sides discs, a couple radio) >as well as an assortment of Crowded House, Neil Finn, Robyn Hitchcock, >Richard Thompson, and numerous others to trade, if anyone's interested... > > >Eric > > > > > >From robbush@wt.net Wed Dec 8 21:19:41 1999 Received: from sys32.hou.wt.net (sys32.hou.wt.net [205.230.159.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA10955 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:19:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from robbush (216-119-135-222.ipset15.wt.net [216.119.135.222]) by sys32.hou.wt.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA25923 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:19:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <02b301bf41f3$c6a4a300$d88777d8@wt.net> From: "Rob Bush" To: Subject: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:15:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is really an interesting paradox - Yesterday, Aimee Mann released Magnolia to the joy of us loyal fans who know the talent she is. Tonight, Brittney Spears wins Female Artist of the year (and Album Artist of the Year and Best New Artist of the Year and who knows what else). Simply reaffirmed that the vast majority wouldn't know quality if it bit them on the you know where. Robert btw - took Magnolia to the office today - what a great soundtrack - nearly too good - >From chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Wed Dec 8 22:07:24 1999 Received: from ime.net (ime.net [209.90.192.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA16978 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:07:23 -0600 (CST) From: chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Received: from z3e3c9 (3060-maine-56k.ime.net [209.90.250.60]) by ime.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA26848 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:07:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001801bf41fb$06539180$3cfa5ad1@z3e3c9> To: References: <02b301bf41f3$c6a4a300$d88777d8@wt.net> Subject: Re: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:08:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN "Rob Bush" wrote: > Tonight, Brittney Spears wins Female Artist of the year (and Album Artist of > the Year and Best New Artist of the Year and who knows what else). What Aimee needs to win a Billboard Music Award is a stint as a Mouseketeer and a rack job. Take care, Chris >From incubus1@ix.netcom.com Wed Dec 8 22:15:41 1999 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA18092 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:15:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sji-ca3-101.ix.netcom.com [209.109.233.101]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09826 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:15:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <384EBC14.6178B83C@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:14:13 +0000 From: Rob Moore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) References: <02b301bf41f3$c6a4a300$d88777d8@wt.net> <001801bf41fb$06539180$3cfa5ad1@z3e3c9> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I know you were joking, but, Aimee don't need a rack job! She's gorgeous. Rob chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com wrote: > "Rob Bush" wrote: > > > Tonight, Brittney Spears wins Female Artist of the year (and Album Artist of > > the Year and Best New Artist of the Year and who knows what else). > > What Aimee needs to win a Billboard Music Award is a stint as a Mouseketeer and > a rack job. > > Take care, > Chris >From tuesday19@hotmail.com Wed Dec 8 22:17:22 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f41.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id WAA18223 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:17:21 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 52155 invoked by uid 0); 9 Dec 1999 04:16:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19991209041651.52154.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 154.5.67.143 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:16:50 PST X-Originating-IP: [154.5.67.143] From: "Mike Nelles" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Andrea Rocks!!! Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 04:16:50 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'd just like to dash off a quick thanks to ANDREA, who recorded the B-Sides CDs onto tape for me and also included some fantastic extras!! Thanks once again Andrea!! ------>Mike ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From brown23@gate.net Wed Dec 8 22:25:45 1999 Received: from cocopah.gate.net (root@cocopah.gate.net [198.206.134.49]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA19009 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:25:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-420.gate.net [199.227.173.166]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA64304 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:25:25 -0500 Message-ID: <384F2E54.4888BBE1@gate.net> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 23:21:40 -0500 From: Bill Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Rolling Stone Magnolia review References: <02b301bf41f3$c6a4a300$d88777d8@wt.net> <001801bf41fb$06539180$3cfa5ad1@z3e3c9> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Peter Travers reviews the movie in the new Rolling Stone. He raves about it & says it's one of the best films of the year- "startling, innovative, hugely funny and powerfully, courageously moving." He promises a more detailed review at a later date, but gives a brief plot/character description & says "the actors are perfection". Aimee also gets a mention - "Anderson has made a movie of constant astonishments, including a cast singalong to a ballad by Aimee Mann..." I can't wait- Bill >From gkomoto@jps.net Wed Dec 8 23:01:19 1999 Received: from smtp5.jps.net (smtp5.jps.net [209.63.224.55]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA21947 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:01:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from jps.net (216-119-23-88.o1.jps.net [216.119.23.88]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA18358 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:01:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <384F3748.4CB8C14B@jps.net> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:59:52 -0800 From: Greg Komoto Reply-To: gkomoto@jps.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Rolling Stone Magnolia review References: <02b301bf41f3$c6a4a300$d88777d8@wt.net> <001801bf41fb$06539180$3cfa5ad1@z3e3c9> <384F2E54.4888BBE1@gate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Also, today the National Board of Review announced their awards. Julianne Moore won for her supporting actress work in multiple films, including Magnolia. Philip Seymour Hoffman was cited supporting actor for "...Mr Ripley" and Magnolia. The entire cast was cited as Best Ensemble. Also, the film ranked 3rd in their listing of the top 10 films. Pick your favorite movie/entertainment site and read more about it. Perhaps we will see Aimee in some of the print/tv coverage of the premiere (which was this evening). Bill Brown wrote: > Peter Travers reviews the movie in the new Rolling Stone. He raves about it & > says it's one of the best films of the year- "startling, innovative, hugely funny > and powerfully, courageously moving." > He promises a more detailed review at a later date, but gives a brief > plot/character description & says "the actors are perfection". > Aimee also gets a mention - "Anderson has made a movie of constant > astonishments, including a cast singalong to a ballad by Aimee Mann..." > I can't wait- Bill >From chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Wed Dec 8 23:26:27 1999 Received: from ime.net (ime.net [209.90.192.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA23371 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:26:26 -0600 (CST) From: chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Received: from z3e3c9 (3060-maine-56k.ime.net [209.90.250.60]) by ime.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA11492 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 00:26:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003e01bf4206$1190c300$3cfa5ad1@z3e3c9> To: References: <02b301bf41f3$c6a4a300$d88777d8@wt.net> <001801bf41fb$06539180$3cfa5ad1@z3e3c9> <384EBC14.6178B83C@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 00:27:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN "Rob Moore" wrote: > I know you were joking, but, Aimee don't need a rack job! She's gorgeous. I and a certain Mr. Penn agree. :) Just making a typically trenchant comment about music awards shows. Take care, Chris >From mvfisk@gj.net Thu Dec 9 01:34:17 1999 Received: from mail2.gj.net (mail2.gj.net [216.169.69.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id BAA02258 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 01:34:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.64.113] by mail2.gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A7B05110154; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 00:18:08 MST Message-ID: <384F5AE8.E5C5E3C7@gj.net> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 00:31:52 -0700 From: "Michael T. Fisk" Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Organization: Unknown Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: let's make a buzz! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN It's great the Magnolia soundtrack is available on the website. However, if we buy at regular outlets and even online stores, they will notice their sales of Aimee's music and be more likely to stock the new stuff, and even the old stuff (especially if we ask for it!) Just a thought. Personally I am going down to good old local merchant Triple Play Records and make sure Rock orders it for me! Plus more for presents! By the way, I performed "All Over Now," "Angels Never Call," and "Red Vines" at my recent coffee shop gigs and got good audience response. I gave a free package of Red Vines out as a prize for answering the trivia question: "Who fronted 'Til Tuesday?" Ok, I had to give a couple of hints, but the young lady got it right! buzz buzz buzz MikeF3 >From Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com Thu Dec 9 07:28:43 1999 Received: from mailsrv.frc.com (mail.frc.com [208.235.135.211]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id HAA19859 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 07:28:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from hqmail01.frc.com ([172.20.12.21]) by mailsrv.frc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA48B for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:28:10 -0500 Received: by HQMAIL01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:28:06 -0500 Message-ID: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A632F@HQMAIL01> From: "Bachman, Michael" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:28:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I think Aimee looks just fine. Check out the excellant Time article with the great photo. Michael -----Original Message----- From: chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com [mailto:chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 11:08 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) "Rob Bush" wrote: > Tonight, Brittney Spears wins Female Artist of the year (and Album Artist of > the Year and Best New Artist of the Year and who knows what else). What Aimee needs to win a Billboard Music Award is a stint as a Mouseketeer and a rack job. Take care, Chris >From brentm@autobahn.mb.ca Thu Dec 9 07:47:29 1999 Received: from mail.autobahn.mb.ca (mail.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.26]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id HAA21436 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 07:47:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from winklovic (a13MXG150.autobahn.mb.ca [206.45.254.150]) by mail.autobahn.mb.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3/AAC/AD) with SMTP id HAA23235 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 07:47:26 -0600 (CST) From: "Brent Mazur" To: Subject: Aimee in Time Magazine (was RE: Female Artist of the Year) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 07:47:07 -0600 Message-ID: <000e01bf424b$e2695ec0$96fe2dce@winklovic> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A632F@HQMAIL01> Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN What issue date does she appear in? Brent Mazur Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada > I think Aimee looks just fine. Check out the excellant Time article >with the great photo. > >Michael > >From Salt5@aol.com Thu Dec 9 08:05:00 1999 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA24143 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:04:59 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ac00eaa5 (4399); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:04:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ac00eaa5.258110e8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:04:24 EST Subject: Aimee's got it all going on To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I saw Aimee with a comic at Largo earlier this year and the comic did a very sharp impression of Aimee during the breaks between the musical numbers. Aimee was grinning from ear-to-ear while the comic ripped her over and over. The biggest grin and the biggest laugh of all came when the comic said: "I'm Aimee Mann and I don't have to stuff my bra. I've got it all going on!" >From Salt5@aol.com Thu Dec 9 08:20:18 1999 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA25833 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:20:17 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.51615610 (4399); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:19:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.51615610.2581147f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:19:43 EST Subject: Aimee's Family Acorns To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Shame on you! My mind doesn't work like that! Have you read the liner notes for Magnolia yet? The track data reads like a family-tree for the Family of Mann. There are different ways to look at data. Look at the acorns in this way and you may get a slightly different angle on the music and the musicians: Mike Breaux: oboe: Build That Wall Jon Brion: background vocals: One, Build That Wall, Deathly, Save Me drums: Deathly chamberlin: Wise Up acoustic guitar: Build That Wall electric guitar:Build That Wall, Deathly all instruments: One bass: Momentum keyboards:Momentum organ: Build That Wall casio orchestra: Build That Wall celeste:Build That Wall glockenspiel: Build That Wall Keith Brion: picolo: Build That Wall Randy Brion: euphonium: Build That Wall Chris Difford: background vocals: One Juliana Hatfield: background vocals: Deathly Michael Hausman: drum programming: You Do Neil Innes: background vocals: One Buddy Judge: background vocals: Build That Wall, You Do, Nothing Is Good Enough (instrumental), Save Me acoustic guitar: Momentum Michael Lockwood: background vocals: Driving Sideways, Save Me electric guitar: Driving Sideways, You Do, Save Me 12 string guitar: Driving Sideways melodica: Save Me cheesy keyboard: You Do Jon Lupfer: sax-Momentum Aimee Mann: lead vocal: One, Momentum, Build That Wall, Deathly, Driving Sideways, You Do, Wise Up, Save Me background vocals: ,Driving Sideways, Nothing Is Good Enough (instrumental) bass: Build That Wall, Deathly, You Do, Nothing Is Good Enough (instrumental), Wise Up, Save Me acoustic guitar: Deathly, Wise Up, Save Me Dan McCarroll: drums: Momentum, Driving Sideways percussion:Wise Up Rick Menck: drums: Nothing Is Good Enough (instrumental) Steve Mitchell: drums: Build That Wall Brendan O'Brian: bass: Driving Sideways slide guitar: Driving Sideways Michael Penn: background vocals: Driving Sideways, Wise Up John Sands: drums: Save Me percussion:Save Me Benmont Tench: piano: Nothing Is Good Enough (instrumental), Wise Up chamberlin: Nothing Is Good Enough (instrumental) Patrick Warren: piano: Driving Sideways chamberlin: You Do celeste: You Do keyboards and accordion: Save Me The copyright dates are interesting too. ONE: 1968 (original copyright) MOMENTUM: 1994 BUILD THAT WALL:1990 DEATHLY: 1999 DRIVING SIDEWAYS: 1999 YOU DO: 1999 NOTHING IS GOOD ENOUGH (INSTRUMENTAL): (no copyright listed) WISE UP: 1996 SAVE ME: 1999 >From Larry.Iaquinta@anheuser-busch.com Thu Dec 9 08:26:06 1999 Received: from gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com (gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com [151.145.250.252]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id IAA26396 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:26:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com; id IAA17680; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:27:58 -0600 Received: from stlexggtw002-pozzoli.fw-users.busch.com(151.145.101.130) by gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com via smap (V5.0) id xma017602; Thu, 9 Dec 99 08:27:19 -0600 Received: from stlabcexg004.anheuser-busch.com ([151.145.101.160]) by 151.145.101.130 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:24:55 0000 (GMT) Received: by stlabcexg004.anheuser-busch.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:24:47 -0600 Message-ID: <299BF5F5EF5ED31196760008C7D9AE5D455AA0@STLABCEXG022> From: "Iaquinta, Larry" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:24:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I heard that billboard base their awards solely on record sales. If this is true then I can understand Brittney taking awards. If this is not true, then we have witnessed a travesty of justice. > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Bush [SMTP:robbush@wt.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 9:16 PM > To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > Subject: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) > > This is really an interesting paradox - Yesterday, Aimee Mann released > Magnolia to the joy of us loyal fans who know the talent she is. > Tonight, Brittney Spears wins Female Artist of the year (and Album Artist of > the Year and Best New Artist of the Year and who knows what else). > > Simply reaffirmed that the vast majority wouldn't know quality if it bit > them on the you know where. > > Robert > > btw - took Magnolia to the office today - what a great soundtrack - nearly > too good - > >From Triton712@aol.com Thu Dec 9 08:37:43 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA27058 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:37:42 -0600 (CST) From: Triton712@aol.com Received: from Triton712@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.bd8d6113 (4002) for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:37:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.bd8d6113.258118af@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:37:35 EST Subject: Re: Aimee's Family Acorns To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/9/99 8:33:34 AM Central Standard Time, Salt5@aol.com writes: << Chris Difford: background vocals: One>> because I don't have the record yet, I have to ask: no Tillbrook? -- Gregory Memphis >From Salt5@aol.com Thu Dec 9 08:44:33 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA27587 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:44:33 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.157c5ab7 (4399); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:43:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.157c5ab7.25811a2f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:43:59 EST Subject: extra credit for Michael To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN sorry, I left this off the list of credits: Michael Penn: electric guitar: Driving Sideways guitar: You Do Also noted: MP's fourth album has been listed for some time now as an expensive import (see Gemm.com) by a number of Euro-dealers. What's up with this? Does it mean that MP is bogged down in music machine politics again? Geez. Jon Brion's record has been finished forever too. How can you be featured in Time and Entertainment Weekly and still get locked out of the release cycle? But, have faith, fellow fans. The music business is still a business and the wheels of hype grind large. If one member of our little circle of favorites takes off, the rest will ride a wave of attention too. >From Salt5@aol.com Thu Dec 9 08:46:43 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA27819 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:46:42 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.75d00141 (4399) for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:46:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.75d00141.25811ab1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:46:09 EST Subject: Re: Aimee's Family Acorns To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Because I don't have the record yet, I have to ask: no Tillbrook? -- Gregory Memphis Nope. >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Thu Dec 9 09:10:54 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA29559 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:10:52 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 09:16:41 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.226 [206.8.2.226] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 3FCEEAF0AE4911D3AE3A006097D4776C for ; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 09:16:40 -0600 Date: 09 Dec 99 09:12:15 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Aimee's Family Acorns To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991209091641.3fceeaf0ae4911d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 4540C88E-AE4B11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id JAA29560 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Aimee's Family Acorns Remember we're not talking all new songs here. As previously noted, Momentum and Build That Wall are Whatever outtakes. The recording of One is from the Nilsson tribute album. Wise Up dates back to Jerry Maguire and the IWS tour. Save Me is the Magnolia-specific jewel. Jack On 12/9/99, Salt5 wrote: ONE: 1968 (original copyright) MOMENTUM: 1994 BUILD THAT WALL:1990 DEATHLY: 1999 DRIVING SIDEWAYS: 1999 YOU DO: 1999 NOTHING IS GOOD ENOUGH (INSTRUMENTAL): (no copyright listed) WISE UP: 1996 SAVE ME: 1999 >From ElizaS33@aol.com Thu Dec 9 09:14:52 1999 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA29698 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:14:51 -0600 (CST) From: ElizaS33@aol.com Received: from ElizaS33@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.f651adc (3966) for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:14:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.f651adc.2581214a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:14:18 EST Subject: Re: extra credit for Michael To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/9/99 6:59:05 AM, Salt5@aol.com writes: << Also noted: MP's fourth album has been listed for some time now as an expensive import (see Gemm.com) by a number of Euro-dealers. What's up with this? Does it mean that MP is bogged down in music machine politics again? Geez.>> After extensive annoying research, I've more or less established that MP4 is *not* available in Europe. The companies that listed it are all import businesses that carry no actual stock, they seem to be using the original, cancelled release date as an actual release date, and no people I can find in Europe have been able to find it. >>Jon Brion's record has been finished forever too. How can you be featured in Time and Entertainment Weekly and still get locked out of the release cycle? >> Try calling Atlantic for a promo copy and see what they tell you. I hear the answers are myriad and entertaining. Personally, I hope Time's info was accurate and he *is* being allowed to shop it around; Atlantic obviously is no t a good match. What's up with EW? Haven't heard about that... Elizabeth The Gallery of Indispensable Pop Music http://homepages.go.com/~popgallery >From Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com Thu Dec 9 10:14:43 1999 Received: from mailsrv.frc.com (mail.frc.com [208.235.135.211]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA04414 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:14:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from hqmail01.frc.com ([172.20.12.21]) by mailsrv.frc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1666 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:14:10 -0500 Received: by HQMAIL01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:14:05 -0500 Message-ID: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A6333@HQMAIL01> From: "Bachman, Michael" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: Aimee in Time Magazine (was RE: Female Artist of the Year) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:14:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The issue with John McCain on the cover. It's page 108, 12/15/99 issue. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Brent Mazur [mailto:brentm@autobahn.mb.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 8:47 AM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee in Time Magazine (was RE: Female Artist of the Year) What issue date does she appear in? Brent Mazur Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada > I think Aimee looks just fine. Check out the excellant Time article >with the great photo. > >Michael > >From Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com Thu Dec 9 10:20:52 1999 Received: from mailsrv.frc.com (mail.frc.com [208.235.135.211]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA05160 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:20:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from hqmail01.frc.com ([172.20.12.21]) by mailsrv.frc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA16F8 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:20:20 -0500 Received: by HQMAIL01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:20:15 -0500 Message-ID: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A6334@HQMAIL01> From: "Bachman, Michael" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:20:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I don't listen to Brittney, but is my impression of her correct when I think of her as being a lesser talented Debbie Gibson for the late 1990's? At least Debbie wrote most her material. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Iaquinta, Larry [mailto:Larry.Iaquinta@anheuser-busch.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 9:25 AM To: 'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu' Subject: RE: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) I heard that billboard base their awards solely on record sales. If this is true then I can understand Brittney taking awards. If this is not true, then we have witnessed a travesty of justice. > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Bush [SMTP:robbush@wt.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 9:16 PM > To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > Subject: Female Artist of the Year (the Gospel according to Billboard) > > This is really an interesting paradox - Yesterday, Aimee Mann released > Magnolia to the joy of us loyal fans who know the talent she is. > Tonight, Brittney Spears wins Female Artist of the year (and Album Artist of > the Year and Best New Artist of the Year and who knows what else). > > Simply reaffirmed that the vast majority wouldn't know quality if it bit > them on the you know where. > > Robert > > btw - took Magnolia to the office today - what a great soundtrack - nearly > too good - > >From 103125.1703@compuserve.com Thu Dec 9 13:05:27 1999 Received: from spamgaac.compuserve.com (as-img-3.compuserve.com [149.174.217.146]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA07239 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:05:25 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id OAA12230 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:04:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:04:01 -0500 From: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> Subject: Red Vines Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu To: Mannlist Message-ID: <199912091404_MC2-9075-91A8@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id NAA07242 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Sender: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN WFUV-FM in New York City played "Red Vines" this morning at 8:15AM and followed-up by explaining that you can only get it on an EP at www.aimeemann.com and that there's a full album coming out at the beginning of the year. He also mentioned Magnolia. When I bought my copy of Magnolia, the guy behind the counter said, "Excellent choice"! >From pasquinade@erols.com Thu Dec 9 13:21:29 1999 Received: from isocor.reliastar.com (root@mail.reliastar.com [204.86.50.23]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA10248 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:21:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from erols.com (z23694.reliastar.com [172.16.31.215]) by isocor.reliastar.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24948 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:21:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38500132.A2E73724@erols.com> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:21:22 -0500 From: Ed Lynn Reply-To: pasquinade@erols.com X-Sender: "Ed Lynn" <@mail.reliastar.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-RS402-1 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Red Vines References: <199912091404_MC2-9075-91A8@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Jim wrote: > > WFUV-FM in New York City played "Red Vines" this morning at 8:15AM and > followed-up by explaining that you can only get it on an EP at > www.aimeemann.com and that there's a full album coming out at the beginning > of the year. He also mentioned Magnolia. When I bought my copy of > Magnolia, the guy behind the counter said, "Excellent choice"! The guy behind the counter at Best Buy gave me a funny look when I threw two copies onto the counter about twenty minutes ago. When I bought my copy there Tuesday, there were about ten copies in the bin. I took the last two they had today. If they'd had three, I would've picked up yet another. Maybe they'll think "wow! ten copies in three days! we need to order a bunch more of these!" ed. >From lex@inch.com Thu Dec 9 13:41:56 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA13852 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:41:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (oldshell.inch.com [207.240.140.252]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with SMTP id OAA03437 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:41:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Lex Marks" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: lex@inch.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:41:55 +500 Subject: Re: let's make a buzz! Message-id: <38500603.fa23.0@inch.com> X-User-Info: 161.114.71.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: lex@inch.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Re: aimmeemanndirect.com I wonder if she gets all proceeds when purchased from her site versus a cut to record stores when sold off the shelf? (Not that I have a clue as to how the industry operates). > It's great the Magnolia soundtrack is available on the website. >However, if we >buy at regular outlets and even online stores, they will notice their >sales of Aimee's >music and be more likely to stock the new stuff, and even the old stuff >(especially >if we ask for it!) Just a thought. Personally I am going down to good >old local >merchant Triple Play Records and make sure Rock orders it for me! Plus >more >for presents! > By the way, I performed "All Over Now," "Angels Never Call," and >"Red Vines" >at my recent coffee shop gigs and got good audience response. I gave a >free >package of Red Vines out as a prize for answering the trivia question: >"Who fronted >'Til Tuesday?" Ok, I had to give a couple of hints, but the young lady >got it right! >buzz buzz buzz >MikeF3 > > >From SteveJed@aol.com Thu Dec 9 14:23:35 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA18928 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:23:34 -0600 (CST) From: SteveJed@aol.com Received: from SteveJed@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id q.0.6853ba8f (4251); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:22:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6853ba8f.25816999@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:22:49 EST Subject: Re: let's make a buzz! To: lex@inch.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/09/1999 2:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, lex@inch.com writes: << I wonder if she gets all proceeds when purchased from her site versus a cut to record stores when sold off the shelf? (Not that I have a clue as to how the industry operates). >> If it's anything like it is for "the rest of us", selling direct on your site gives you all the costs, whereas selling on an Amazon.com or a Borders gives you significantly less. The standard offers for these sites are something like $12.95 list price for a $5 band take. The more expensive you want to make the list price, the more your band makes but generally, they take 55-60%. >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Thu Dec 9 14:42:01 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA21884 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:42:00 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:41:21 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.226 [206.8.2.226] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 3FCEF25BAE4911D3AE3A006097D4776C for ; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:41:21 -0600 Date: 09 Dec 99 14:36:54 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: let's make a buzz! To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991209144121.3fcef25bae4911d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 825CD6E7-AE5F11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id OAA21885 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: let's make a buzz! I made a purchase from the site Tuesday, and the orders are being fulfilled by ARTISTdirect network out of Tarzana, CA. I doubt Ms. Mann will be seeing all of the net profits. But, consider her alternatives! Jack On 12/9/99, SteveJed wrote: If it's anything like it is for "the rest of us", selling direct on your site gives you all the costs, whereas selling on an Amazon.com or a Borders gives you significantly less. >From lex@inch.com Thu Dec 9 14:53:34 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA23487 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:53:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (oldshell.inch.com [207.240.140.252]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with SMTP id PAA17170 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:53:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Lex Marks" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: lex@inch.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:53:32 +500 Subject: Re: let's make a buzz! Message-id: <385016cc.fcf0.0@inch.com> X-User-Info: 161.114.71.61 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: lex@inch.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN What I'd like to know is this: Is it more profitable for Aimee Mann to sell her CDs via the net; or record stores (or is there no difference)? As a fan of a struggling artist (for now) I would prefer to purchase via the channel that makes her the most $. > Reply to: re: Re: let's make a buzz! > >I made a purchase from the site Tuesday, and the orders are being fulfilled by ARTISTdirect network out of Tarzana, CA. I doubt Ms. Mann will be seeing all of the net profits. But, consider her alternatives! > > >Jack > > >On 12/9/99, SteveJed wrote: >If it's anything like it is for "the rest of us", selling direct on your site gives you all the costs, whereas selling on an Amazon.com or a Borders gives you significantly less. > > >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 9 15:00:54 1999 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA24630 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:00:53 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.77c31532 (4585) for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:00:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.77c31532.25817261@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:00:17 EST Subject: Let's Thank Aimee To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Assuming that a lot of you have bought Magnolia or will buy it over the weekend, and probably like it, I was wondering if anyone wants to join me in a letter of thanks and congradulations to Aimee, posted to the list. I'm going to be away this weekend, but I'll be back Sunday night. So I leave everyone to disscuss this if they want and I'll see what is said Sunday. For those who are in LA or NY, the print adds for Magnolia should appear this weekend in the newspapers, can't wait to see them. And the NY Times usually mentions films that will open next week in their arts and leasure section of Sunday's paper. Like to see what they write. Andrea aweiss4338@aol.com >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Thu Dec 9 15:22:12 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA27769 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:22:11 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:21:31 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.226 [206.8.2.226] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 3FCEF379AE4911D3AE3A006097D4776C for plus 1 more; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:21:31 -0600 Date: 09 Dec 99 15:17:04 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Re: let's make a buzz! To: lex CC: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991209152131.3fcef379ae4911d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 825CDA0F-AE5F11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id PAA27770 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: re: Re: let's make a buzz! Go to her site. Even if there's no profit difference between the two options -- and I bet there is -- the cash should flow to her faster. Jack On 12/9/99, Lex Marks wrote: What I'd like to know is this: Is it more profitable for Aimee Mann to sell her CDs via the net; or record stores (or is there no difference)? As a fan of a struggling artist (for now) I would prefer to purchase via the channel that makes her the most $. >From jinkies@interport.net Thu Dec 9 15:27:18 1999 Received: from mail.ecentric.com (mail.ecentric.com [209.177.13.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA28151 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:27:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from interport.net ([209.177.13.51]) by mail.ecentric.com (Lotus Domino Build 166.1) with ESMTP id 1999120916123245:2847 ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:12:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 16:23:59 -0500 From: Barnes Tilney Reply-To: jinkies@interport.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Let's Thank Aimee References: <0.77c31532.25817261@aol.com> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on mail/Ecentric(Release 5.0 (Intl)|30 March 1999) at 12/09/99 04:12:32 PM, Serialize by Router on mail/Ecentric(Release 5.0 (Intl)|30 March 1999) at 12/09/99 04:12:35 PM, Serialize complete at 12/09/99 04:12:35 PM Message-ID: <38501DED.582DD77E@interport.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'd definitely sign a letter. . . I ordered the soundtrack online out of sheer laziness, so I won't hear it probably before monday or tuesday, but I'll sign it in anticipation. Barnes jinkies@interport.net AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote: > Assuming that a lot of you have bought Magnolia or will buy it over the > weekend, and probably like it, I was wondering if anyone wants to join me in > a letter of thanks and congradulations to Aimee, posted to the list. > I'm going to be away this weekend, but I'll be back Sunday night. So I leave > everyone to disscuss this if they want and I'll see what is said Sunday. > For those who are in LA or NY, the print adds for Magnolia should appear this > weekend in the newspapers, can't wait to see them. And the NY Times usually > mentions films that will open next week in their arts and leasure section of > Sunday's paper. Like to see what they write. > Andrea > aweiss4338@aol.com >From ElizaS33@aol.com Thu Dec 9 15:37:38 1999 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA29130 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:37:37 -0600 (CST) From: ElizaS33@aol.com Received: from ElizaS33@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.40809727 (6097) for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:37:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.40809727.25817b00@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:37:04 EST Subject: Re: let's make a buzz! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm gonna make a wild guess about the profit structure; I'd guess that the site is, basically, a retailer, and that they get the CDs from their respective labels at wholesale (or at some other price that may have been stipulated in her contract). So Aimee would get her normal cut plus the retail markup. That's how I'd do it, anyway. Please keep in mind that I have no idea what I'm talking about. Thank you. Elizabeth The Gallery of Indispensable Pop Music http://homepages.go.com/~popgallery >From roback@sirius.com Thu Dec 9 15:48:11 1999 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA00295 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:48:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA51847 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:47:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912092147.NAA51847@mail1.sirius.com> Subject: Re: let's make a buzz! Date: Thu, 9 Dec 99 13:49:33 -0800 x-sender: roback@pop.sirius.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Steven Roback To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >I'm gonna make a wild guess about the profit structure; I'd guess that the >site is, basically, a retailer, and that they get the CDs from their >respective labels at wholesale (or at some other price that may have been >stipulated in her contract). So Aimee would get her normal cut plus the >retail markup. > >That's how I'd do it, anyway. Please keep in mind that I have no idea what >I'm talking about. Thank you. > >Elizabeth >The Gallery of Indispensable Pop Music >http://homepages.go.com/~popgallery I think Elizabeth is correct. Musicians buy them wholesale from their label, and can then resell them anyway they wish. Just like retail. And hat's off to the sentiment of getting the bucks to the artist. Steven Roback >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Thu Dec 9 16:54:20 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f135.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.135]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id QAA10048 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:54:17 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 89494 invoked by uid 0); 9 Dec 1999 22:53:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19991209225341.89493.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.171.149 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:53:41 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.171.149] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Fwd: Order Confirmation from AimeeMannDirect.com Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:53:41 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Well, I ordered two from both CdNow and AimeeDirect for a total of four plus my promo, and I am not done yet. I would imagine the direct benefit to Aimee has to be greater ordering from her site, and I am sure she reports all sales to Billboard and/or the record producer. > It's great the Magnolia soundtrack is available on the website. >However, if we >buy at regular outlets and even online stores, they will notice their >sales of Aimee's >music and be more likely to stock the new stuff, and even the old stuff >(especially >if we ask for it!) Just a thought. >From: CustomerService@artistdirect.com > > AimeeMannDirect >c/o ARTISTdirect network >P. O. Box 571508 >Tarzana, CA 91357 >USA > >Thank you for choosing AimeeMannDirect (http://AimeeMannDirect.com) >as your official Aimee Mann merchandise provider. > >>You will receive an Invoice Confirmation email once the order has been >>shipped. > >ORDER TRACKING NUMBER: 23867 >ORDER DATE: 12/8/99 >PAYMENT TYPE: VISA >USER NAME: SONICHAWK > >BILL-TO ADDRESS: SHIP-TO ADDRESS: >F.Paul Barras F.Paul Barras >P.O. Box 15417 P.O. Box 15417 >SEATTLE WA 98115-0417 SEATTLE WA 98115-0417 >UNITED STATES UNITED STATES > >ORDERED BY: F.Paul Barras >CARRIER: Standard Shipping > >PRODUCTS PURCHASED: > >PRODUCT DESCRIPTION QUANTITY UNIT >EXTENDED > PRICE PRICE >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Magnolia Soundtrack 2 $12.99 $25.98 >WB47583.2 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sub Total: >$25.98 > Shipping: >$2.90 > Tax: >$0.00 > >------------ > Total: >$28.88 > >============ > >Thank you again for shopping at AimeeMannDirect.com, and we hope to see you >again soon! > >http://www.artistdirect.com >Toll Free US & Canada: 1-877-5-ARTIST (1-877-527-8478) >International: 1-818-758-8726 >Fax: 1-818-758-8719 >Email: customerservice@artistdirect.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From MANNINFO@aol.com Thu Dec 9 17:14:45 1999 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA11622 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:14:43 -0600 (CST) From: MANNINFO@aol.com Received: from MANNINFO@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id 1.0.4bb16f59 (4459); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:14:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.4bb16f59.258191bd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:14:05 EST Subject: re: Re: let's make a buzz! To: jsteinmann@clynch.com, lex@inch.com CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Claris Emailer v2.0 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Aimee does make more money if you buy from the store at aimeemann.com. We have to pay artistdirect for fulfilling the orders and maintaining the store but they are great and it is well worth it. Artistdirect will also be helping to bring more traffic to the site and promoting Aimee throughout their network. It is interesting to note that on the catalog records, both Aimee Mann and Til Tuesday, Aimee will finally make something off of every sale. Because of the criminal ways the major labels account, Aimee is still un-recouped and doesn't see record royalties. In the new sales scenario the "store" aimeemanndirect buys the records from a distributor like any store would and marks them up to retail price. Aimee get a good chuck of the markup and Sony or Geffen get the same as if it was sold through regular channels. This way it goes towards Aimee's account for recoupment at the label. Some day she will see those royalties and all the songwriters and publishers get paid by the label. The great thing for the fans is that you can buy all the records, new and old as well as other merchandise from the same place and know the Aimee is getting PAID on every sale. >From: jsteinmann@clynch.com (Jack Steinmann) >Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Reply-to: jsteinmann@clynch.com (Jack Steinmann) >To: lex@inch.com (lex) >CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu (mannlist) > Reply to: re: re: Re: let's make a buzz! > >Go to her site. Even if there's no profit difference between the two >options -- and I bet there is -- the cash should flow to her faster. > >Jack > > >On 12/9/99, Lex Marks wrote: >What I'd like to know is this: >Is it more profitable for Aimee Mann to sell her CDs via the net; or record >stores (or is there no difference)? >As a fan of a struggling artist (for now) I would prefer to purchase via >the channel that makes her the most $. > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com >[172.18.147.36]) by air-yh04.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Dec >1999 16:24:15 -0500 >Received: from mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu >[128.83.217.12]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v66.4) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Dec >1999 16:24:01 1900 >Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id >PAA27850; > Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:23:52 -0600 (CST) >Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) > by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id >PAA27769 > for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:22:11 -0600 (CST) >Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost > (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:21:31 -0600 >Received: from 206.8.2.226 [206.8.2.226] > by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP > id 3FCEF379AE4911D3AE3A006097D4776C > for plus 1 more; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:21:31 -0600 >Date: 09 Dec 99 15:17:04 -0600 >From: "Jack Steinmann" >Subject: re: Re: let's make a buzz! >To: lex >CC: mannlist >X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) >X-Priority: 3 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Reply-To: Jack Steinmann >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" >Message-id: ><19991209152131.3fcef379ae4911d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> >X-SLUIDL: 825CDA0F-AE5F11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by >mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id PAA27770 >Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > check out aimeemann.com for all the latest news >From Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com Thu Dec 9 17:32:07 1999 Received: from mailsrv.frc.com (mail.frc.com [208.235.135.211]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA14957 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:32:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from hqmail01.frc.com ([172.20.12.21]) by mailsrv.frc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA39DC for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:31:34 -0500 Received: by HQMAIL01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:31:34 -0500 Message-ID: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A633A@HQMAIL01> From: "Bachman, Michael" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: Let's Thank Aimee Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:31:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Andrea, I would love to send my thanks to Aimee in a letter. Her music has been ingrained into my life since 1985, and at an accelerated rate since 1988 when I picked up Everything's Different Now when it first came out. I was floored by her sharing her feelings with us in her deeply felt lyrics on EDN. Whatever further cemented my feelings for her music. She has my thanks and best wishes for the success that she truly deserves. Michael -----Original Message----- From: AWeiss4338@aol.com [mailto:AWeiss4338@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 4:00 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Let's Thank Aimee Assuming that a lot of you have bought Magnolia or will buy it over the weekend, and probably like it, I was wondering if anyone wants to join me in a letter of thanks and congradulations to Aimee, posted to the list. I'm going to be away this weekend, but I'll be back Sunday night. So I leave everyone to disscuss this if they want and I'll see what is said Sunday. For those who are in LA or NY, the print adds for Magnolia should appear this weekend in the newspapers, can't wait to see them. And the NY Times usually mentions films that will open next week in their arts and leasure section of Sunday's paper. Like to see what they write. Andrea aweiss4338@aol.com >From dewdrop@corplink.com.au Thu Dec 9 20:43:54 1999 Received: from mail01.ozramp.net.au (mail01.apacinternet.com.au [203.36.35.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA15811 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:43:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from corplink.com.au ([203.42.254.146]) by mail01.ozramp.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18420 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 13:43:43 +1100 Message-ID: <38506DAA.F2BCD015@corplink.com.au> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:04:10 +1100 From: Feeler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Let's Thank Aimee References: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A633A@HQMAIL01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey guys We get ET (US version) a day late here in Australia, but I was so happy when I saw it yesterday! The National Board of Review has voted Magnolia one of the top 5 movies of 1999! (or something like that....). I can remember only two other titles - The Talented Mr Ripley and American Beauty. But I'm so thrilled! I hope this means Aimee will have to start considering writing an acceptance speech soon :Ţ. But then you all knew that already, didn't you? Bachman, Michael wrote: > Andrea, > > I would love to send my thanks to Aimee in a letter. Her music has > been ingrained into my life since 1985, and at an accelerated rate > since 1988 when I picked up Everything's Different Now when it first > came out. I was floored by her sharing her feelings with us in her > deeply felt lyrics on EDN. Whatever further cemented my feelings for > her music. She has my thanks and best wishes for the success that she > truly deserves. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: AWeiss4338@aol.com [mailto:AWeiss4338@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 4:00 PM > To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > Subject: Let's Thank Aimee > > Assuming that a lot of you have bought Magnolia or will buy it over the > weekend, and probably like it, I was wondering if anyone wants to join me in > > a letter of thanks and congradulations to Aimee, posted to the list. > I'm going to be away this weekend, but I'll be back Sunday night. So I > leave > everyone to disscuss this if they want and I'll see what is said Sunday. > For those who are in LA or NY, the print adds for Magnolia should appear > this > weekend in the newspapers, can't wait to see them. And the NY Times usually > > mentions films that will open next week in their arts and leasure section of > > Sunday's paper. Like to see what they write. > Andrea > aweiss4338@aol.com -- "I'm aware what the rules are, But you know that I will run, You know that I will follow you..." (Tori Amos) >From Pooley29@aol.com Thu Dec 9 20:56:20 1999 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA16365 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:56:19 -0600 (CST) From: Pooley29@aol.com Received: from Pooley29@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.19976490 (3865) for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:55:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.19976490.2581c5ad@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:55:41 EST Subject: Re: Let's Thank Aimee To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 47 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN sing me up!! Thanks Andrea >From MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Fri Dec 10 10:52:47 1999 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA27203 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:52:46 -0600 (CST) From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Received: from MnnyMoNHak@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.6e3eeb62 (4572) for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:52:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6e3eeb62.258289bd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:52:13 EST Subject: Re: extra credit for Michael To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/10/99 4:05:15 AM, Salt5 writes: <> Nope. I just got a promotional copy of the album this week from Epic. I forget the official release date, sorry. I believe that Aimee gets credit for backup vocals on three or four songs... Happy to see that *someone* hasn't fallen prey to the record company curse, anyway. I used to think Sony was the evil empire, but they're so flush with riches these days, maybe they can afford to take some chances the other mega-labels won't... Michael is also producing the Wallflowers, by the way. Can't remember if that's common knowledge or not. >From lv426@pacbell.net Fri Dec 10 12:57:17 1999 Received: from mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (mta4.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.142]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA19507 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:57:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from mother ([207.104.158.6]) by mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with SMTP id <0FMJ00DPGGE8ID@mta4.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:51:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:53:46 -0800 From: "J.K.Ng" Subject: a rant, a wee bit long To: Aimee Mann Mailing List Reply-to: "J.K.Ng" Message-id: <004a01bf433f$e3e50160$069e68cf@mother> Organization: What IV MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01BF42FC.D54C4340" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BF42FC.D54C4340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I'm inclined to think that Britney winning an award regardless of = record (cd) sales is a travesty, period. She and her kind (Backstreet = Boys, Christine Aguilera, 98 Degrees...) strictly appeal to the lowest = common denominator, the mindless masses who don't want to search out = quality entertainment but prefer to be told what's good and good for = them.=20 I would think that if Aimee Mann ever made it big, it wouldn't be by = design but by accident. I think R.E.M. makes a good example of this. In = my opinion, and feel free to disagree if you like, R.E.M. stayed true to = their own musical vision and the public gradually warmed up to what they = were doing, which translated into a huge amount of record sales. What = Aimee Mann and R.E.M. both do is extremely intelligent and very = heartfelt. While Aimee Mann's songs have a genuine pop appeal, they're = not mindless enough for the mass consumption. If the masses somehow = start buying it, as in the case of R.E.M., it's a gorgeous mistake. sorry, i'll be quiet now... jinyao ___________________ That is not dead Which can eternal lie Yet with strange aeons Even death may die -H.P. Lovecraft- ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BF42FC.D54C4340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<I heard that billboard base their = awards=20 solely on record sales. If this is true
then I can understand = Brittney taking=20 awards. If this is not true, then we have
witnessed a travesty of=20 justice.>
   
    I'm inclined to = think that=20 Britney winning an award regardless of record (cd) sales is a travesty, = period.=20 She and her kind (Backstreet Boys, Christine Aguilera, 98 Degrees...) = strictly=20 appeal to the lowest common denominator, the mindless masses who don't = want to=20 search out quality entertainment but prefer to be told what's good and = good for=20 them.
    I would think that = if Aimee=20 Mann ever made it big, it wouldn't be by design but by accident. I think = R.E.M.=20 makes a good example of this. In my opinion, and feel free to disagree = if you=20 like, R.E.M. stayed true to their own musical vision and the public = gradually=20 warmed up to what they were doing, which translated into a huge amount = of record=20 sales. What Aimee Mann and R.E.M. both do is extremely intelligent and = very=20 heartfelt. While Aimee Mann's songs have a genuine pop = appeal, they're not=20 mindless enough for the mass consumption. If the masses somehow = start=20 buying it, as in the case of R.E.M., it's a gorgeous = mistake.
 
sorry, i'll be quiet = now...
jinyao
___________________
 
That is not dead
Which can eternal = lie
Yet=20 with strange aeons
Even death may die
-H.P.=20 Lovecraft-
------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BF42FC.D54C4340-- >From greg.antoniono@springstreet.com Fri Dec 10 13:29:31 1999 Received: from te03.springstreet.com (te03.springstreet.com [216.32.161.17]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA28436 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 13:29:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from tiger (nat.sf.springstreet.com [206.229.122.3]) by te03.springstreet.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/springstreet-cyrus-2.0) with SMTP id LAA29647 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:28:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <01a701bf4345$7cbfeb20$8400000a@tiger.sf.springstreet.com> From: "Greg Antoniono" To: "Aimee Mann Mailing List" Subject: Re: a rant, a wee bit long Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:33:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A4_01BF4302.6E565350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01BF4302.6E565350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Justice? Is this intentionally funny or unintentionally? Would you = prefer that Brittney get the critical acclaim and Aimee get the record = sales? If so, why? Please limit your answer to less than 25 words. Greg -----Original Message----- From: J.K.Ng To: Aimee Mann Mailing List Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 11:16 AM Subject: a rant, a wee bit long =20 =20 =20 I'm inclined to think that Britney winning an award regardless = of record (cd) sales is a travesty, period. She and her kind (Backstreet = Boys, Christine Aguilera, 98 Degrees...) strictly appeal to the lowest = common denominator, the mindless masses who don't want to search out = quality entertainment but prefer to be told what's good and good for = them.=20 I would think that if Aimee Mann ever made it big, it wouldn't = be by design but by accident. I think R.E.M. makes a good example of = this. In my opinion, and feel free to disagree if you like, R.E.M. = stayed true to their own musical vision and the public gradually warmed = up to what they were doing, which translated into a huge amount of = record sales. What Aimee Mann and R.E.M. both do is extremely = intelligent and very heartfelt. While Aimee Mann's songs have a genuine = pop appeal, they're not mindless enough for the mass consumption. If the = masses somehow start buying it, as in the case of R.E.M., it's a = gorgeous mistake. =20 sorry, i'll be quiet now... jinyao ___________________ =20 That is not dead Which can eternal lie Yet with strange aeons Even death may die -H.P. Lovecraft- ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01BF4302.6E565350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Justice? Is this intentionally funny = or=20 unintentionally? Would you prefer that Brittney get the critical acclaim = and=20 Aimee get the record sales? If so, why? Please limit your answer to less = than 25=20 words.
 
Greg
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 J.K.Ng <lv426@pacbell.net>
To:=20 Aimee Mann Mailing List <mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu= >
Date:=20 Friday, December 10, 1999 11:16 AM
Subject: a rant, a = wee bit=20 long

<I heard that billboard base = their awards=20 solely on record sales. If this is true
then I can understand = Brittney=20 taking awards. If this is not true, then we have
witnessed a = travesty of=20 justice.>
   
    I'm inclined to = think that=20 Britney winning an award regardless of record (cd) sales is a = travesty,=20 period. She and her kind (Backstreet Boys, Christine Aguilera, 98=20 Degrees...) strictly appeal to the lowest common denominator, the = mindless=20 masses who don't want to search out quality entertainment but prefer = to be=20 told what's good and good for them.
    I would think = that if Aimee=20 Mann ever made it big, it wouldn't be by design but by accident. I = think=20 R.E.M. makes a good example of this. In my opinion, and feel free to = disagree if you like, R.E.M. stayed true to their own musical vision = and the=20 public gradually warmed up to what they were doing, which translated = into a=20 huge amount of record sales. What Aimee Mann and R.E.M. both do is = extremely=20 intelligent and very heartfelt. While Aimee Mann's songs have a = genuine pop=20 appeal, they're not mindless enough for the mass = consumption. If=20 the masses somehow start buying it, as in the case of R.E.M., = it's a=20 gorgeous mistake.
 
sorry, i'll be quiet = now...
jinyao
___________________
 
That is not dead
Which can = eternal=20 lie
Yet with strange aeons
Even death may die
-H.P.=20 Lovecraft-
------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01BF4302.6E565350-- >From Triton712@aol.com Fri Dec 10 14:22:24 1999 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA05666 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:22:23 -0600 (CST) From: Triton712@aol.com Received: from Triton712@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.5f591530 (3311) for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:21:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.5f591530.2582bade@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:21:50 EST Subject: Re: a rant, a wee bit long(er) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/10/99 1:45:54 PM Central Standard Time, greg.antoniono@springstreet.com writes: << Would you prefer that Brittney get the critical acclaim and Aimee get the record sales? >> I started to say that "I'd prefer that Aimee get BOTH critical acclaim AND record sales", then I thought, "Is that really what I want?" Because the ugly truth is, I sort of LIKE having Aimee as my "well-kept little secret", if you know what I mean. Don't get me wrong: I wish Aimee had ALL the money. And ALL the awards. And ALL the fame. She deserves it, for the music she makes, and the tough stances she's taken for the sake of her art. But.... It's just that I'd hate 'sharing' her with the world, and being just another fan among gazillions who rush to buy her newest record. (Granted, Aimee wouldn't mind that, I'm sure.) I love slyly putting her cds in the changer for someone who's never heard her, and having them say "Who IS that??" Am I all wrong in feeling like this? Probably. Because I liked being one of the only REM fans at first, and I loved it even more when they hit it big without compromising their vision. Same thing with Elvis Costello. And Lucinda Williams. So, here's to hoping that the world will conform to Aimee, and not vice versa. (As if there were any doubt about that.) And I can just be happy in saying, "You know.... I've been listening to Aimee for years and years now..." --Gregory >From gkomoto@jps.net Fri Dec 10 14:38:37 1999 Received: from smtp6.jps.net (smtp6.jps.net [209.63.224.103]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA07390 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:38:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from jps.net (smfcam.jps.net [209.63.224.19] (may be forged)) by smtp6.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA18686 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:37:58 -0800 (PST) From: "Greg Komoto" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: gkomoto@jps.net To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:37:58 GMT Subject: Set Your VCRs! video debut on 120 Minutes X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.3b, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <385164a6.1d0f.0@jps.net> X-User-Info: 132.233.247.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: gkomoto@jps.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN According the MTV web page, a new video from Aimee Mann will debut on 120 Minutes this Sunday at 12 am EST. Set your VCRs! Link here: http://www.mtv.com/sendme.tin?page=/mtv/music/120min/&sub=shows >From ericgarland@mediaone.net Fri Dec 10 18:44:10 1999 Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA13012 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:44:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from mediaone.net (we-24-130-48-51.we.mediaone.net [24.130.48.51]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA17047 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:44:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38519E76.A80B8043@mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:44:41 -0800 From: Eric Garland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61C-MOEATL (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Brion's Song References: <0.4bb16f59.258191bd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Well, tonight's no different from any other Friday. I'll be dragging my lazy bones up the street to perch on a bar stool at Largo and sip a Guinness, taking in the brilliance of Jon Brion (tonight his "special guest" is Glen Phillips, formerly of Toad the Wet Sprocket). Okay, this Friday is a _little_ different...because tonight my regular Friday gig is SPLASHED ALL OVER THE PAGES OF ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY! Absolutely incredible. Our best-kept secret's out. The tribute starts on page 44 with a glorious, full page photo. Time to hit the newsstands, people! (PS Matt and Gwyneth are on the cover.) MANNINFO@aol.com wrote: > Aimee does make more money if you buy from the store at aimeemann.com. We > have to pay artistdirect for fulfilling the orders and maintaining the > store but they are great and it is well worth it. Artistdirect will also > be helping to bring more traffic to the site and promoting Aimee > throughout their network. > > It is interesting to note that on the catalog records, both Aimee Mann > and Til Tuesday, Aimee will finally make something off of every sale. > Because of the criminal ways the major labels account, Aimee is still > un-recouped and doesn't see record royalties. In the new sales scenario > the "store" aimeemanndirect buys the records from a distributor like any > store would and marks them up to retail price. Aimee get a good chuck of > the markup and Sony or Geffen get the same as if it was sold through > regular channels. This way it goes towards Aimee's account for recoupment > at the label. Some day she will see those royalties and all the > songwriters and publishers get paid by the label. > > The great thing for the fans is that you can buy all the records, new and > old as well as other merchandise from the same place and know the Aimee > is getting PAID on every sale. > > >From: jsteinmann@clynch.com (Jack Steinmann) > >Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > >Reply-to: jsteinmann@clynch.com (Jack Steinmann) > >To: lex@inch.com (lex) > >CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu (mannlist) > > Reply to: re: re: Re: let's make a buzz! > > > >Go to her site. Even if there's no profit difference between the two > >options -- and I bet there is -- the cash should flow to her faster. > > > >Jack > > > > > >On 12/9/99, Lex Marks wrote: > >What I'd like to know is this: > >Is it more profitable for Aimee Mann to sell her CDs via the net; or record > >stores (or is there no difference)? > >As a fan of a struggling artist (for now) I would prefer to purchase via > >the channel that makes her the most $. > > > > > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > >Return-Path: > >Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com > >[172.18.147.36]) by air-yh04.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Dec > >1999 16:24:15 -0500 > >Received: from mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu > >[128.83.217.12]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v66.4) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Dec > >1999 16:24:01 1900 > >Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id > >PAA27850; > > Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:23:52 -0600 (CST) > >Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) > > by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id > >PAA27769 > > for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:22:11 -0600 (CST) > >Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost > > (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:21:31 -0600 > >Received: from 206.8.2.226 [206.8.2.226] > > by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP > > id 3FCEF379AE4911D3AE3A006097D4776C > > for plus 1 more; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:21:31 -0600 > >Date: 09 Dec 99 15:17:04 -0600 > >From: "Jack Steinmann" > >Subject: re: Re: let's make a buzz! > >To: lex > >CC: mannlist > >X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) > >X-Priority: 3 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Reply-To: Jack Steinmann > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" > >Message-id: > ><19991209152131.3fcef379ae4911d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> > >X-SLUIDL: 825CDA0F-AE5F11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by > >mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id PAA27770 > >Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > >X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > > > > check out aimeemann.com for all the latest news >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Fri Dec 10 18:59:56 1999 Received: from dockmaster.usfca.edu (dockmaster.usfca.edu [138.202.192.9]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA13985 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:59:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.42.84] (dialup-42-84.usfca.edu [138.202.42.84]) by dockmaster.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04945 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:59:57 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38519E76.A80B8043@mediaone.net> References: <0.4bb16f59.258191bd@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:02:26 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: Brion's Song Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I WANT TO BE AT LARGO TONITE!! instead, i must move bookshelves, a futon frame (about as easy as a dead body), and buy a xmas tree - and all in freezing cold San Francisco!! i hope aimee still does her tuesday nite Largo shows after the world has beaten a path to her door - i've yet to see one - better make it downt there in the next week! >Well, tonight's no different from any other Friday. I'll be dragging my lazy >bones up the street to perch on a bar stool at Largo and sip a Guinness, >taking >in the brilliance of Jon Brion (tonight his "special guest" is Glen Phillips, >formerly of Toad the Wet Sprocket). > >Okay, this Friday is a _little_ different...because tonight my regular Friday >gig is SPLASHED ALL OVER THE PAGES OF ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY! > >Absolutely incredible. Our best-kept secret's out. The tribute starts on >page >44 with a glorious, full page photo. > >Time to hit the newsstands, people! > >(PS Matt and Gwyneth are on the cover.) > >MANNINFO@aol.com wrote: > >> Aimee does make more money if you buy from the store at aimeemann.com. We >> have to pay artistdirect for fulfilling the orders and maintaining the >> store but they are great and it is well worth it. Artistdirect will also >> be helping to bring more traffic to the site and promoting Aimee >> throughout their network. >> >> It is interesting to note that on the catalog records, both Aimee Mann >> and Til Tuesday, Aimee will finally make something off of every sale. >> Because of the criminal ways the major labels account, Aimee is still >> un-recouped and doesn't see record royalties. In the new sales scenario >> the "store" aimeemanndirect buys the records from a distributor like any >> store would and marks them up to retail price. Aimee get a good chuck of >> the markup and Sony or Geffen get the same as if it was sold through >> regular channels. This way it goes towards Aimee's account for recoupment >> at the label. Some day she will see those royalties and all the >> songwriters and publishers get paid by the label. >> >> The great thing for the fans is that you can buy all the records, new and >> old as well as other merchandise from the same place and know the Aimee >> is getting PAID on every sale. >> >> >From: jsteinmann@clynch.com (Jack Steinmann) >> >Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >> >Reply-to: jsteinmann@clynch.com (Jack Steinmann) >> >To: lex@inch.com (lex) >> >CC: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu (mannlist) >> > Reply to: re: re: Re: let's make a buzz! >> > >> >Go to her site. Even if there's no profit difference between the two >> >options -- and I bet there is -- the cash should flow to her faster. >> > >> >Jack >> > >> > >> >On 12/9/99, Lex Marks wrote: >> >What I'd like to know is this: >> >Is it more profitable for Aimee Mann to sell her CDs via the net; or record >> >stores (or is there no difference)? >> >As a fan of a struggling artist (for now) I would prefer to purchase via >> >the channel that makes her the most $. >> > >> > >> > >> >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >> >Return-Path: >> >Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com >> >[172.18.147.36]) by air-yh04.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Dec >> >1999 16:24:15 -0500 >> >Received: from mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu >> >[128.83.217.12]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v66.4) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Dec >> >1999 16:24:01 1900 >> >Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) >> > by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id >> >PAA27850; >> > Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:23:52 -0600 (CST) >> >Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) >> > by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id >> >PAA27769 >> > for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:22:11 -0600 (CST) >> >Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost >> > (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:21:31 -0600 >> >Received: from 206.8.2.226 [206.8.2.226] >> > by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP >> > id 3FCEF379AE4911D3AE3A006097D4776C >> > for plus 1 more; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:21:31 -0600 >> >Date: 09 Dec 99 15:17:04 -0600 >> >From: "Jack Steinmann" >> >Subject: re: Re: let's make a buzz! >> >To: lex >> >CC: mannlist >> >X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) >> >X-Priority: 3 >> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >> >Reply-To: Jack Steinmann >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" >> >Message-id: >> ><19991209152131.3fcef379ae4911d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> >> >X-SLUIDL: 825CDA0F-AE5F11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by >> >mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id PAA27770 >> >Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >> >X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >> > >> >> check out aimeemann.com for all the latest news Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From skilroy@earthlink.net Fri Dec 10 20:20:07 1999 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA17897 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:20:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.23.202] (1Cust202.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.23.202]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04623 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:20:04 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:20:03 -0500 Subject: Re: extra credit for Michael From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0.157c5ab7.25811a2f@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Also - MP4 is scheduled for February 1. I have actually heard a single on WXPN here in Philly. If you want to hear it, join pennlist (shameless promo) and look in the files section, there's an MP3 there. Spencer Lewis (Moderator by default) ------- Join the Michael Pennlist at http://www.onelist.com/community/michaelpennlist > From: Salt5@aol.com > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:43:59 EST > To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > Cc: Salt5@aol.com > Subject: extra credit for Michael > > Also noted: MP's fourth album has been listed for some time now as an > expensive import (see Gemm.com) by a number of Euro-dealers. What's up with > this? Does it mean that MP is bogged down in music machine politics again? > Geez. >From indigo@mindspring.com Fri Dec 10 20:27:32 1999 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (smtp7.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA18547 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:27:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from dh (user-2iveihb.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.74.43]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22900 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:27:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991210211414.0121d110@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: indigo@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:17:14 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Deb Subject: Re: let's make a buzz! In-Reply-To: <199912091200.GAA10013@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >From: "Michael T. Fisk" > > It's great the Magnolia soundtrack is available on the website. >However, if we buy at regular outlets and even online stores, they >will notice their sales of Aimee's music and be more likely to stock >the new stuff, and even the old stuff (especially if we ask for it!) Just >a thought. Personally I am going down to good old local merchant >Triple Play Records and make sure Rock orders it for me! If you *really* want to make a buzz, I'm afraid that you need to pass up your neighborhood record store and buy from the big boys (Walmart, Best Buy, Tower) where the sales register with SoundScan. I do this *only* for artists I really care about, like Aimee. -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Fri Dec 10 22:54:35 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f272.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.50]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id WAA27510 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:54:34 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 47170 invoked by uid 0); 11 Dec 1999 04:54:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19991211045400.47169.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 4.4.68.195 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:53:59 PST X-Originating-IP: [4.4.68.195] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Largo anyone?! Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:53:59 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Any Mannlisters in the L.A. area want to be my guest to Largo on the 14th. My treat. I am flying in stag. I have reservations, and you are sure to meet Aimee. ;-) >From: "Alaska/Horizon Airlines" >Thank you for making travel arrangements with AlaskaAir.com! > >Confirmation Code: VFDEVZ (Use this code during the check-in process) > >Travelers: Paul Barras > >Itinerary: >Flight: 584; Departing: Seattle/Tacoma on Dec 14 at 4:27 p.m. >Arriving: Los Angeles at 6:57 p.m. >Cabin: First; Seats: 2A > >Flight: 481; Departing: Los Angeles on Dec 15 at 10:20 a.m. >Arriving: Seattle/Tacoma at 12:58 p.m. >Cabin: First; Seats: 2C > (1-800-252-7522) or Horizon Air >at 1-800-547-9308. > >AlaskaAir.com >http://www.alaskaair.com > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Zabadak900@aol.com Sat Dec 11 00:36:25 1999 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA03762 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 00:36:24 -0600 (CST) From: Zabadak900@aol.com Received: from Zabadak900@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.cd212fdc (4587) for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:35:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.cd212fdc.25834ac3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:35:47 EST Subject: Re: a rant, a wee bit long(er) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Well...........unlike A.M.: REM built up while T.T./A.M. broke out. REM had the indie-Athens demimonde vibe to ride. That does have cache' w the CMJ crowd, which carried the REM message for quite a while. REM has maintained a "presence" while Aimee has been off the radar for quite sometime. And lastly, it never hurts a band's standing, within the music biz, to have a gay front-man, albeit closeted. Greg >From lovnros@idt.net Sat Dec 11 01:43:46 1999 Received: from mail-relay3.idt.net (MAIL-RELAY3.IDT.NET [169.132.8.27]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id BAA06535 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:43:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from [169.132.153.88] (ppp-40.ts-2.lax.idt.net [169.132.153.88]) by mail-relay3.idt.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11337 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 02:43:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199912110743.CAA11337@mail-relay3.idt.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:44:09 -0800 Subject: Re: Largo anyone?! From: "Daniel P. Melvold" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I would be interested....My name is Dan...and I occasionally add my 2 cents worth on the list...I have had the pleasure of seeing Aimee at Largo many times...since her first stint there. Dan ---------- >From: "Paul Barras" >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Largo anyone?! >Date: Fri, Dec 10, 1999, 8:53 PM > >Any Mannlisters in the L.A. area want to be my guest to Largo on the 14th. >My treat. I am flying in stag. I have reservations, and you are sure to >meet Aimee. ;-) > > >>From: "Alaska/Horizon Airlines" >>Thank you for making travel arrangements with AlaskaAir.com! >> >>Confirmation Code: VFDEVZ (Use this code during the check-in process) >> >>Travelers: Paul Barras >> >>Itinerary: >>Flight: 584; Departing: Seattle/Tacoma on Dec 14 at 4:27 p.m. >>Arriving: Los Angeles at 6:57 p.m. >>Cabin: First; Seats: 2A >> >>Flight: 481; Departing: Los Angeles on Dec 15 at 10:20 a.m. >>Arriving: Seattle/Tacoma at 12:58 p.m. >>Cabin: First; Seats: 2C >> >(1-800-252-7522) or Horizon Air >>at 1-800-547-9308. >> >>AlaskaAir.com >>http://www.alaskaair.com >> >> >> >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >From TK03@aol.com Sat Dec 11 06:51:42 1999 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id GAA18099 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 06:51:42 -0600 (CST) From: TK03@aol.com Received: from TK03@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.bd9a032c (4220) for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:48:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.bd9a032c.2583a22c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:48:44 EST Subject: Re: Largo anyone?! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN An Aimee Mann video will debut on MTV on 120 Minutes Sunday (12/12) beginning at midnight. Is MTV getting smart??? >From DMedsker@aol.com Sat Dec 11 12:24:02 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA10219 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:24:01 -0600 (CST) From: DMedsker@aol.com Received: from DMedsker@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.1d7b29f6 (4353) for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 13:23:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.1d7b29f6.2583f09e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 13:23:26 EST Subject: Sharing Aimee To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 30 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN (My apologies, this wound up being longer than I intended) << But.... It's just that I'd hate 'sharing' her with the world, and being just another fan among gazillions who rush to buy her newest record. >> Ah, and here our hypocrisy is laid out before us. The fact is, any real fan of music is also a snob on some level, especially us. And we like being snobs. It makes us better than the general buying public, in our own minds. But here's some food for thought: Do you think fans of Richard Thompson in the '80s got together and complained about bands like The Thompson Twins, a-ha and Duran Duran (or Til Tuesday, irony of ironies) selling more records than Thompson did? Probably. Were they missing the point? Definitely. What's my point, exactly? This: If Aimee, by some brilliant mistake, as one person put it, became incredibly successful, half of this list would immediately start complaining about the troglodyte fans who buy her records but don't really "get" her. We wouldn't be happy that she was selling records. We'd be offended because the masses would be in effect lowering our standards. A good fraction of us, I would wager, would stop listening to Aimee altogether, because the thrill of having her to ourselves would be gone, and you'd start looking for the next artist just off the radar. "My work here is done," so to speak. We can't have it both ways. She either sells 100,000 copies of each record (or less) and we adore her, or she becomes a star and we leave her behind. How many people on this list don't quite like Sarah McLachlan as much as you used to? Or the Barenaked Ladies? That's what awaits Aimee if she breaks through. But I wouldn't worry too much. After all, Elliott Smith didn't exactly set sales records after his Oscar nod. DAM >From lex@inch.com Sat Dec 11 14:02:59 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA15259 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:02:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (TC4-dial-213-215.oldslip.inch.com [207.240.215.213]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with ESMTP id PAA14783 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:02:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3852ADFB.577D2904@inch.com> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:03:07 -0500 From: Lex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Largo anyone?! References: <19991211045400.47169.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN damn I'm jealous. Wish I could hop on a plane and meet you there. Try to convince her to come to NYC will ya? Ciao. Paul Barras wrote: > Any Mannlisters in the L.A. area want to be my guest to Largo on the 14th. > My treat. I am flying in stag. I have reservations, and you are sure to > meet Aimee. ;-) > > >From: "Alaska/Horizon Airlines" > >Thank you for making travel arrangements with AlaskaAir.com! > > > >Confirmation Code: VFDEVZ (Use this code during the check-in process) > > > >Travelers: Paul Barras > > > >Itinerary: > >Flight: 584; Departing: Seattle/Tacoma on Dec 14 at 4:27 p.m. > >Arriving: Los Angeles at 6:57 p.m. > >Cabin: First; Seats: 2A > > > >Flight: 481; Departing: Los Angeles on Dec 15 at 10:20 a.m. > >Arriving: Seattle/Tacoma at 12:58 p.m. > >Cabin: First; Seats: 2C > > > (1-800-252-7522) or Horizon Air > >at 1-800-547-9308. > > > >AlaskaAir.com > >http://www.alaskaair.com > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From robbush@wt.net Sat Dec 11 18:55:13 1999 Received: from sys32.hou.wt.net (sys32.hou.wt.net [205.230.159.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA05780 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:55:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from robbush (216-119-135-48.ipset15.wt.net [216.119.135.48]) by sys32.hou.wt.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA23798 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:55:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00b801bf443b$826e7720$308777d8@wt.net> From: "Rob Bush" To: Subject: Thank You Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:54:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have promised myself this will be short - after all, - Ms. Mann is able to capture in so very few lines so many emotions - Since Tuesday night, Magnolia has become a fixture in my CD player at home and at work. For me, "You Do" is the standout cut, with all the others close seconds. Thank you Ms. Mann for holding true to your convictions and your art. Robert Bush >From lv426@pacbell.net Sat Dec 11 21:06:51 1999 Received: from mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (mta1.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.122]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA14487 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:06:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from mother ([206.170.29.181]) by mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with SMTP id <0FML00798XY5WN@mta1.snfc21.pbi.net> for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:06:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:08:08 -0800 From: "J.K.Ng" Subject: Misunderstand To: Aimee Mann Mailing List Reply-to: "J.K.Ng" Message-id: <004901bf444e$1e616360$b51daace@mother> Organization: What IV MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01BF440B.0FAEB4A0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BF440B.0FAEB4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To Whomever Might Have Misunderstood Me, The words I wrote were merely my thoughts on someone else's = Billboard Awards comment. The Billboard Awards comment was in brackets = at the beginning of the message, with the brackets hopefully signifying = that there were another's words contained within . Take it as you will, = but I stand by what I wrote. I'm neither apologizing nor flaming. This = is more than twenty-five words. J ___________________ That is not dead Which can eternal lie Yet with strange aeons Even death may die -H.P. Lovecraft- ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BF440B.0FAEB4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BF440B.0FAEB4A0-- >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Sat Dec 11 21:28:55 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f125.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.125]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id VAA17682 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:28:54 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 71145 invoked by uid 0); 12 Dec 1999 03:28:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19991212032823.71144.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 4.4.68.197 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:28:23 PST X-Originating-IP: [4.4.68.197] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Sharing Aimee Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:28:23 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I agreed with David up to a certain point. I used to love the X-FIles & stopped when the masses discovered it. I think that some artists and films/shows transcend that. I don't think you can stop loving something as brilliant and wonderful as Aimee's work. Some music like the Beatles, R.E.M., Aimee, Eliot and a few others you would love no matter how few or many units they sold. In principle, he is correct. I feel a little snobbery myself. I do like Sarah a little less, but it's not because she achieved success; it's because I don't see depth and maturation in her work (Aimee, conversely, seems to re-invent the wheel with every offering), and Sarah's gotten a little polished and commercial. I don't think any of US would leave Aimee behind. Besides, our work can never be done until everyone in the world knows the wonder of her gifts. >From: DMedsker@aol.com A good fraction of us, I would >wager, would stop listening to Aimee altogether, because the thrill of >having >her to ourselves would be gone, and you'd start looking for the next artist >just off the radar. "My work here is done," so to speak. > >We can't have it both ways. She either sells 100,000 copies of each record >(or less) and we adore her, or she becomes a star and we leave her behind. >How many people on this list don't quite like Sarah McLachlan as much as >you >used to? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Sat Dec 11 21:34:10 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f288.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.82]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id VAA18460 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:34:09 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 64578 invoked by uid 0); 12 Dec 1999 03:33:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19991212033338.64577.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 4.4.68.197 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:33:38 PST X-Originating-IP: [4.4.68.197] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Big Apple Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:33:38 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN no convincing necessary. New York is ALWAYS on her list and Billboard or one of the articles mentioned she WILL be in New York in January. Someone on the list please confirm this info, and post a blurb for New Yorkers. >From: Lex >>Wish I could hop on a plane and meet you there. >Try to convince her to come to NYC will ya? >Ciao. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From robbush@wt.net Sat Dec 11 21:39:34 1999 Received: from sys32.hou.wt.net (sys32.hou.wt.net [205.230.159.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA18983 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:39:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from robbush (216-119-135-237.ipset15.wt.net [216.119.135.237]) by sys32.hou.wt.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA07446 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:39:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301bf4452$7bf93580$ed8777d8@wt.net> From: "Rob Bush" To: References: <19991212032823.71144.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Sharing Aimee Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:38:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Great points by both - I was really a stout BNL fan until they became popular - but imho at that point they started believing the good reviews. To be honest, have you seen any effort on the magnitude of their early stuff since four years ago? I agree with Paul 100% - every effort by Aimee is fresh and alive - I have written about the joy of listening to her work in sequence and listening to the constant growth she exhibits - Now, to convince her to come to Houston or Dallas - (and we won't make her wear cowboy boots. . . I promise) ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Barras To: Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Sharing Aimee > I agreed with David up to a certain point. I used to love the X-FIles & > stopped when the masses discovered it. I think that some artists and > films/shows transcend that. I don't think you can stop loving something as > brilliant and wonderful as Aimee's work. Some music like the Beatles, > R.E.M., Aimee, Eliot and a few others you would love no matter how few or > many units they sold. In principle, he is correct. I feel a little snobbery > myself. I do like Sarah a little less, but it's not because she achieved > success; it's because I don't see depth and maturation in her work (Aimee, > conversely, seems to re-invent the wheel with every offering), and Sarah's > gotten a little polished and commercial. I don't think any of US would > leave Aimee behind. Besides, our work can never be done until everyone in > the world knows the wonder of her gifts. > > > >From: DMedsker@aol.com > > A good fraction of us, I would > >wager, would stop listening to Aimee altogether, because the thrill of > >having > >her to ourselves would be gone, and you'd start looking for the next artist > >just off the radar. "My work here is done," so to speak. > > > >We can't have it both ways. She either sells 100,000 copies of each record > >(or less) and we adore her, or she becomes a star and we leave her behind. > >How many people on this list don't quite like Sarah McLachlan as much as > >you > >used to? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >From mvfisk@gj.net Sun Dec 12 02:11:12 1999 Received: from mail2.gj.net (mail2.gj.net [216.169.69.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id CAA01726 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 02:11:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.64.102] by mail2.gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A4BF51600CA; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:54:39 MST Message-ID: <38535833.94AE6F5E@gj.net> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 01:09:24 -0700 From: "Michael T. Fisk" Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Organization: Unknown Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: Re: buzz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I stand corrected! I will definitely buy my product from Aimee's website. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways. I hope you realize, however, that my motive for the original email was to increase public awareness and availability of Aimee Mann/ 'Til Tuesday music. My reasoning was that increased sales would lead to increased availability. Aimee, thank you for sticking with it through the hard times! My life is much richer because of your music. I would like to see the world finally recognize you for the outstanding artist/writer you are. MikeF3 >From decland@nz1.ibm.com Sun Dec 12 03:14:28 1999 Received: from ausmtp02.au.ibm.com (ausmtp02.au.ibm.COM [202.135.136.105]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id DAA02497 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 03:14:25 -0600 (CST) From: decland@nz1.ibm.com Received: from f03n05e.au.ibm.com by ausmtp02.au.ibm.com (IBM AP 1.0) with ESMTP id UAA32134 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:05:51 +1100 Received: from d73mta03.au.ibm.com (f06n03s [9.185.166.97]) by f03n05e.au.ibm.com (8.8.8m2/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA48582 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:13:52 +1100 Received: by d73mta03.au.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id CA256845.0032B296 ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:13:45 +1100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMNZ@IBMAU To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:31:50 +1300 Subject: Re: Sharing Aimee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Fellow Mannlisters, My 5 cents worth from New Zealand: I think it's pretty selfish to try and class Aimee as 'my little secret'. All I'm interested in is getting copies of, and listening to, her tunes. I'm anxiously waiting for the UPS package containing the Magnolia soundtrack as we speak. If three hundred fans buy Aimee's discs, too bad for the rest of the population; if three million buy them, so what? It will not impact me one bit; I'll always want to listen to Aimee sing her songs regardless of her relative popularity. If the opportunity occurs to watch her play live in a small club in San Juan Capistrano, or at a festival with tens of thousands of others, I'll take it, regardless of the venue. Some of you may recall in September this year I had the extreme good fortune to catch Aimee play in SJC whilst on a business trip to South America. The Gods smiled on me that day to line up the planets and catch the show - but if the gig had been at an LA arena 100 times the size, I would still have gone. My point is Aimee writes some fantastic songs, that makes me want to listen to her sing. If more people want to enjoy her art, let them step right up and get on board. It is a truly great ride. Who are we to deny them that? Bye 4 now, Declan Email: decland@nz1.ibm.com DMedsker@aol.com on 12/12/99 07:23:26 Please respond to mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu cc: (bcc: Declan Devenney/New Zealand/IBM) Subject: Sharing Aimee (My apologies, this wound up being longer than I intended) << But.... It's just that I'd hate 'sharing' her with the world, and being just another fan among gazillions who rush to buy her newest record. >> Ah, and here our hypocrisy is laid out before us. The fact is, any real fan of music is also a snob on some level, especially us. And we like being snobs. It makes us better than the general buying public, in our own minds. But here's some food for thought: Do you think fans of Richard Thompson in the '80s got together and complained about bands like The Thompson Twins, a-ha and Duran Duran (or Til Tuesday, irony of ironies) selling more records than Thompson did? Probably. Were they missing the point? Definitely. What's my point, exactly? This: If Aimee, by some brilliant mistake, as one person put it, became incredibly successful, half of this list would immediately start complaining about the troglodyte fans who buy her records but don't really "get" her. We wouldn't be happy that she was selling records. We'd be offended because the masses would be in effect lowering our standards. A good fraction of us, I would wager, would stop listening to Aimee altogether, because the thrill of having her to ourselves would be gone, and you'd start looking for the next artist just off the radar. "My work here is done," so to speak. We can't have it both ways. She either sells 100,000 copies of each record (or less) and we adore her, or she becomes a star and we leave her behind. How many people on this list don't quite like Sarah McLachlan as much as you used to? Or the Barenaked Ladies? That's what awaits Aimee if she breaks through. But I wouldn't worry too much. After all, Elliott Smith didn't exactly set sales records after his Oscar nod. DAM >From Logan00NC@aol.com Sun Dec 12 07:54:57 1999 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id HAA23810 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 07:54:57 -0600 (CST) From: Logan00NC@aol.com Received: from Logan00NC@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ea158a22 (4189) for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 08:54:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ea158a22.2585030c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 08:54:20 EST Subject: You Do To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I agree with you Robert. I think You Do could actually make it as a single. All of Aimee's songs grab me one way or another, but You Do is a standout track amongst standout tracks. I can't think of another singer with enough self-control in singing style/ability to pull this song off as well as Aimee does. What really destroys most ballads (for me, anyway) is the big, huge, over dramatic style of delivery on the part of the singer (Celion Dion, Whitney Houstin type singing). They belt the song out and flood it with so much sentiment that by the time I hear it, I just want to get a towel. Besides Aimee's perfect delivery in the song, the music is perfect also. Even one instrument could have thrown the song off but everything blends together and compliments Aimee's singing. Anyhow - I guess I've raved enough on this song for the last week ... btw - everyone at my office really likes this song a lot. We've got all different ages and tastes in music, and this one everyone agrees is a great song. Jerry >From Kenableken@aol.com Sun Dec 12 09:00:52 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA24651 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:00:51 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.aa6514e5 (4532) for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:00:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.aa6514e5.25851270@aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:00:00 EST Subject: Re: You Do To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Imagine Aimee singing in the style of Celine Dion or Whitney Houston!!! >From robbush@wt.net Sun Dec 12 09:07:36 1999 Received: from sys32.hou.wt.net (sys32.hou.wt.net [205.230.159.32]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA24822 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:07:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from robbush (216-119-135-51.ipset15.wt.net [216.119.135.51]) by sys32.hou.wt.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA27607 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:07:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005601bf44b2$86513680$338777d8@wt.net> From: "Rob Bush" To: References: <0.aa6514e5.25851270@aol.com> Subject: Re: You Do Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:06:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Interesting speculation - many of us have commented on how Magnolia is more mellow than Aimee's previous two CD's, in a way nearly a rebellion against the over-produced, over-blown style that is in vogue now. Nearly as though she looked at what the 'suits' wanted and went the opposite direction, but not out of rebellion but out of knowing what was 'right'. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 9:00 AM Subject: Re: You Do > Imagine Aimee singing in the style of Celine Dion or Whitney Houston!!! > >From Xmarty@aol.com Sun Dec 12 09:28:33 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA26247 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:28:32 -0600 (CST) From: Xmarty@aol.com Received: from Xmarty@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.83ca5037 (4380) for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:27:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.83ca5037.258518fd@aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:27:57 EST Subject: a rant, a wee bit long(er) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/11/1999 6:05:15 AM Central Standard Time, Greg writes: << REM has maintained a "presence" while Aimee has been off the radar for quite sometime. And lastly, it never hurts a band's standing, within the music biz, to have a gay front-man, albeit closeted. >> If he is "closeted", then how would you know that he is gay?? And if you really do know, and he chose to be "closeted", why would you irresponsibly post his secret on the Internet? >From skilroy@earthlink.net Sun Dec 12 11:28:49 1999 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA02025 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 11:28:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.21.204] (2Cust76.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.21.204]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20498 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:28:47 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:28:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Big Apple From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19991212033338.64577.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Post a blurb for us Philadelphians too! I'll definitely come up to NYC again to see Aimee. sl > From: "Paul Barras" > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:33:38 PST > To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > Subject: Big Apple > > no convincing necessary. New York is ALWAYS on her list and Billboard or one > of the articles mentioned she WILL be in New York in January. Someone on the > list please confirm this info, and post a blurb for New Yorkers. >From skilroy@earthlink.net Sun Dec 12 11:33:33 1999 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA02226 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 11:33:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.21.204] (2Cust76.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.21.204]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26350 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:33:31 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:33:32 -0500 Subject: Re: Sharing Aimee From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002301bf4452$7bf93580$ed8777d8@wt.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is my favorite example, I remember seeing BNL 4 or 5 years ago with about 30 people in a bar. Now it's 30,000 and all are waiting for "One Week". Most of the people have never listened to Gordon or MYSD. It has lost it's enjoyment, but how can I begrudge them their success. I hope Aimee finally gets the opportunity to make music without the headaches, that's all. If that means she has to be the next Ricky Martin, then we'll all enjoy the ride along the way. sl > Great points by both - I was really a stout BNL fan until they became > popular - but imho at that point they started believing the good reviews. > To be honest, have you seen any effort on the magnitude of their early stuff > since four years ago? >From shteevea@earthlink.net Sun Dec 12 13:32:18 1999 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA09584 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:32:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from steve (dialup-209.244.110.168.Seattle1.Level3.net [209.244.110.168]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA08229 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 11:32:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven E. Alter" To: Subject: Mann Miscellany Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 11:33:36 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN There's a review of the movie in Variety -- www.variety.com -- that is mixed but positive and has a nice mention of Aimee and "Save Me," which apparently opens the movie. All the talk about "sharing Aimee" is kind of...well, amusing. God knows I know all about discovering artists and having them as your little secret having been in the biz for a while way back when. And I've always had a hankering for "coulda been contender" artists: Sam Phillips, Marshall Crenshaw, Tommy Keene, Prefab Sprout, Patty Griffin, Richard Buckner, Syd Straw, Blue Nile, Eddi Reader...the list goes on. The point is, the world -- and my record collection -- is littered with incredibly talented musicians who have never gotten their just rewards, and great albums that seven people bought. And even when someone breaks out of their cult status -- like a Suzanne Vega or Matthew Sweet -- it is usually short-lived and the artists go back to making their music, maybe shifting a few more copies then before they broke out. REM may be the exception to this rule, but again, "Automatic for the People" was an anomaly and -- much to Warner Brothers chagrin -- while their subsequent albums haven't exactly stiffed, none has set the world on fire in spite of their quality and the fact that they have been consistent with the band's musical vision. So, maybe "Magnolia" will make Aimee a big star -- at the very least, more ears will here her music than since "Voices Carry" (and frankly I never dug her until ETDN) -- and no one would be more deserving of fame and fortune. But the music she makes will never sell like a Celine Dion or Brittney Spears, rack job or no. Hopefully, she can sell enough records to make enough money to continue to follow her muse and make a decent living in the process. And, finally, I guess I should say that in spite of it being perhaps a bit more low-key than previous solo efforts -- I'm guessing this has more than a little to do with the tone of the film -- the album is exceptional. It amazes me to find myself absent-mindedly humming the melody to a song like "Deathly" out of nowhere; how can a song so complex still wrap itself around your brain like that? She is a great songwriter -- we, of course, don't need to argue that here -- and I'm just glad that in spite of her troubles and travails in this shittiest of businesses, that she's still got great music in her and is sharing it with the world. Steve Alter Seattle, WA >From UFOTUFO101@aol.com Sun Dec 12 13:57:33 1999 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA10707 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:57:33 -0600 (CST) From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Received: from UFOTUFO101@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.b89d860 (4569) for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:56:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.b89d860.25855809@aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:56:57 EST Subject: Re: Big Apple To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN yeah is this true? i'v never seen aimee but if she comes to the city i'm all over it! -gina >From Logan00NC@aol.com Sun Dec 12 21:23:18 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA09329 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:23:17 -0600 (CST) From: Logan00NC@aol.com Received: from Logan00NC@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.379dec74 (3311) for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:23:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.379dec74.2585c0a0@aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:23:12 EST Subject: Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Earlier today on VH1 there was a movie ad for Magnolia. "One" was being played throughout (and in the foreground). Lets hope this is just the start of a lot of tv promotion. Jerry >From neilwilson@interim.com Mon Dec 13 04:37:11 1999 Received: from mailhost.interimuk.com (mailhost.interim-technology.co.uk [193.128.1.189]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id EAA15159 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:37:09 -0600 (CST) From: neilwilson@interim.com Received: by mailhost.interimuk.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:36:02 -0000 Message-ID: <2A235C254049D311B4D900A0C9E4D7310A157B@mailhost.interimuk.com> To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Someone has good taste Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:35:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was at a stereophonics gig in Birmingham, England on Saturday night. Before any bands started playing, someone has chosen to play WHATEVER over the huge speakers...well I can't come to a live gig(being in the UK) but at least I got to hear Aimee really loud in an arena...about as close as I'll come to hearing her live for a bit I suspect. Regards Neil Wilson >From patrick@cleasby.freeserve.co.uk Mon Dec 13 09:07:42 1999 Received: from nt3-omnes.london.omnes.net (nt3-omnes.london.omnes.net [134.32.100.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA08795 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:07:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from cleasby.london.oilfield.slb.com ([134.32.100.41]) by nt3-omnes.london.omnes.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 589-44053U500L2S100) with ESMTP id AAA403 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:06:52 +0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991213150538.00a6d620@nt3-omnes.london.oilfield.slb.com> X-Sender: cleasby.freeserve.co.uk@pop.freeserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:07:16 +0000 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Patrick Cleasby Subject: Re: Aimee Mann's new online store In-Reply-To: <0.8a48e06c.257f04ea@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi Anybody know if the ep is still available? the main site says it is, but the direct site isn't listing it? desperate to pay for the ep with a credit card! thanks Patrick At 19:48 07/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >The soundtrack album to the movie "Magnolia", featuring nine recordings >by Aimee, is out now and can be purchased from Aimee directly at her new >store http://www.aimeemanndirect.com, or just click the "SHOP" button at >http://www.aimeemann.com. The store now accepts all forms of payment >(yes, you can finally use your credit cards). > >T-shirts, posters and other new music will be coming soon so keep >checking >back! > > >check out aimeemann.com for all the latest news >From jsmyser@qdivision.com Mon Dec 13 11:42:46 1999 Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA25674 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:42:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA28500; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:42:35 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from [216.112.133.133] (w133.z216112133.bos-ma.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.133.133]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA08681; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:42:34 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jsmyser%qdivision.com@pop3.qdivision.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991213150538.00a6d620@nt3-omnes.london.oilfield.slb.com> References: <0.8a48e06c.257f04ea@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:29:01 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jessica Smyser Subject: Re: Aimee Mann's new online store Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi Everyone,Jessica at Q Division here. We sell the EP on our web-site AND you can pay with Visa or Mastercard. We still have a bunch here, I'm looking right at them! The address is http://www.qdivision.com While you are there you can pick up VIVA NOEL: Q DIVISION CHRISTMAS this album features Aimee Mann's version of The Christmas Song as well as Jen Trynin, Merrie Amsterburg, Brian Stevens and more AND the proceeds go to the Mark Sandman Music Education Fun. That's my shameless plug...Happy Holidays. >Hi > >Anybody know if the ep is still available? the main site says it is, but >the direct site isn't listing it? > >desperate to pay for the ep with a credit card! > >thanks > >Patrick > > > >At 19:48 07/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >>The soundtrack album to the movie "Magnolia", featuring nine recordings >>by Aimee, is out now and can be purchased from Aimee directly at her new >>store http://www.aimeemanndirect.com, or just click the "SHOP" button at >>http://www.aimeemann.com. The store now accepts all forms of payment >>(yes, you can finally use your credit cards). >> >>T-shirts, posters and other new music will be coming soon so keep >>checking >>back! >> >> >>check out aimeemann.com for all the latest news ___________________________________________________________________________ Please visit our web site at http://www.qdivision.com Q Division Records 443 Albany Street Boston, MA 02118 617-542-0081 ___________________________________________________________________________ >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 13 13:06:53 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA07173 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:06:52 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.b49fd2b5 (4069) for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:06:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.b49fd2b5.25869da6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:06:14 EST Subject: Advanced Tockets for Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Apparently tickets for magnolia are so hot that the the theaters in NY are offering advanced tickets for the film. The add today had all of the National Board of Review awards, including one of the best films of the year. I suspect that as much as I want to see this film, I'll wait til it migrates across the Hudson river to NJ, and see it in a local theater. Oh yeah Vin Scelsia played Build That Wall last night on his show. Unless Save Me becomes a hit, I suspect this will be the only place Magnolia will be played in NY, WFUV maybe, but they can't be heard in some parts of NY/NJ. Andrea >From markust@mindless.com Mon Dec 13 16:22:37 1999 Received: from rmx11.iname.net (rmx11.iname.net [165.251.8.201]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA29985 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:22:36 -0600 (CST) From: markust@mindless.com Received: from weba8.iname.net (weba8.iname.net [165.251.4.18]) by rmx11.iname.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11966 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by weba8.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id RAA20226; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:22:35 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <991213172234DD.25490@weba8.iname.net> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:22:34 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: aimee mann Subject: 120 minutes Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Did anyone catch AM's video on 120 minutes last night? I taped it but haven't watched yet. Any tips on how far into the show it is? tim olympia, wa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com >From Jeff_Pennell@AIMFUNDS.COM Mon Dec 13 16:34:42 1999 Received: from houxvw02.houston.aimfunds.com ([206.61.108.14]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id QAA01404 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:34:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from 206.61.109.4 by houxvw02.houston.aimfunds.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:34:28 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Received: by houxgw01.amvescap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:34:39 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Pennell, Jeffrey M" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: 120 minutes Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:34:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN "Save Me" is about ten to fifteen minutes into the program after the first commercial break... -----Original Message----- From: markust@mindless.com [SMTP:markust@mindless.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 4:23 PM To: aimee mann Subject: 120 minutes Did anyone catch AM's video on 120 minutes last night? I taped it but haven't watched yet. Any tips on how far into the show it is? tim olympia, wa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 13 16:36:18 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA01608 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:36:17 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:42:26 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.250 [206.8.2.250] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id D453F066B19911D3AE3A006097D4776C for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:42:26 -0600 Date: 13 Dec 99 16:37:39 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: You Do To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991213164226.d453f066b19911d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 49888D40-B17111D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id QAA01609 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: You Do I haven't gotten the measure of "You Do" yet. "Deathly" is the song I've been waiting for since IWS. Those jangly guitars, those Ringo drums... oh, look, it's Jon Brion! The album's highlight. Jack >From CWillman@aol.com Mon Dec 13 16:36:29 1999 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA01644 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:36:26 -0600 (CST) From: CWillman@aol.com Received: from CWillman@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.63a59235 (3847) for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:35:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.63a59235.2586cec8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:35:52 EST Subject: Re: Magnolia review in Entertainment Weekly To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN <> Your instincts are good. First, the bad news. There won't be a review proper of the "Magnolia" soundtrack in EW, at least not in the next couple of issues, because the December review sections have been theme sections devoted to Christmas albums, boxed sets, etc. Now, the good news. After the current issue, which includes a Jon Brion feature story, comes the year-end double issue, which will include the "Magnolia" soundtrack on a list of the year's 10 best albums, with Aimee as one of the pictured artists. And better still, the issue after that, which comes out Dec. 31, will feature an exclusive Q&A with Aimee and Paul Thomas Anderson, together. Not bad, right? >From angusmcg@ix.netcom.com Mon Dec 13 16:48:30 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA03434 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:48:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from 26140 (lai-ca4c-88.ix.netcom.com [209.110.246.88]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00768 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:48:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991213144831.00a3a9f0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: angusmcg@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:49:46 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Angela McGregor Subject: Re: another Magnolia review... In-Reply-To: <0.63a59235.2586cec8@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_13390571==_.ALT" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --=====================_13390571==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed There is, however, a review of the movie (doesn't mention the music, but it's interesting nonetheless) in the current issue of "The New Yorker", by David Denby. He calls it a "great/terrible movie". At 05:35 PM 12/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >Your instincts are good. First, the bad news. There won't be a review proper >of the "Magnolia" soundtrack in EW, at least not in the next couple of >issues, because the December review sections have been theme sections devoted >to Christmas albums, boxed sets, etc. Angela McGregor www.frigidisk.com --=====================_13390571==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" There is, however, a review of the movie (doesn't mention the music, but it's interesting nonetheless) in the current issue of "The New Yorker", by David Denby.  He calls it a "great/terrible movie".

At 05:35 PM 12/13/99 -0500, you wrote:

Your instincts are good. First, the bad news. There won't be a review proper
of the "Magnolia" soundtrack in EW, at least not in the next couple of
issues, because the December review sections have been theme sections devoted
to Christmas albums, boxed sets, etc.

Angela McGregor
www.frigidisk.com --=====================_13390571==_.ALT-- >From UFOTUFO101@aol.com Mon Dec 13 19:08:26 1999 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA27814 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:08:25 -0600 (CST) From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Received: from UFOTUFO101@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ae574d25 (3890) for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:08:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ae574d25.2586f27d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:08:13 EST Subject: Re: Set Your VCRs! video debut on 120 Minutes To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 99-12-10 15:41:49 EST, you write: i missed 120 minutes! does anyone know if it will be repeated? -gina >From tingalls@coastalnet.com Mon Dec 13 19:48:24 1999 Received: from phoenix.coastalnet.com (phoenix.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA00403 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:48:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from pavilion (pm-wsh6-197.coastalnet.com [205.245.121.197]) by phoenix.coastalnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA13589 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:48:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00f101bf45d5$8eff2660$c579f5cd@pavilion> From: "Terry Ingalls" To: Subject: MTV 120 Minutes Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:50:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Did anyone else catch the MTV debut of "Save Me" on 120 minutes last night? It was great to see it on a bigger screen and through my stereo system! Terry >From Kenableken@aol.com Mon Dec 13 20:27:38 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA03429 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:27:37 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.817e70df (4206) for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:27:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.817e70df.258704f6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:27:02 EST Subject: Total Request Live.... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Does anyone know how TRL works and what the number and hours to call are? Shouldn't plan to all call on designated day to request "Save Me"? Of course, we'll have to pretend we're thirteen and say things like, "I think its a really great video because Tom Cruise is hot even though he's older than my father..." >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Mon Dec 13 21:05:53 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f25.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.25]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id VAA06243 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:05:51 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 31940 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 1999 03:05:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19991214030520.31939.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.160.222 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:05:20 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.160.222] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: MTV 120 Minutes Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:05:20 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is all great! Aimee on MTVF again!! Vindicated! Is it just me or is it PAINFUL for anyone else on the list to listen to the radio. Whenever I am on the road and don't have a CD in the rental, I have to listen to talk radio. There is a whole lot of garbage out there. Celine Dion's songs have lines like "love will conquer it or all" or something like that. Brittney Spears and Christine Aguilera. There outa be a law!! >From: "Terry Ingalls" >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: >Subject: MTV 120 Minutes >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:50:00 -0500 > >Did anyone else catch the MTV debut of "Save Me" on 120 minutes last night? >It was great to see it on a bigger screen and through my stereo system! > >Terry > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From jase@iaw.on.ca Mon Dec 13 22:07:33 1999 Received: from iaw.on.ca (IDENT:root@canal.iaw.on.ca [209.5.112.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id WAA12493 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:07:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from jase.iaw.on.ca(src addr [209.5.116.159]) (848 bytes) by iaw.on.ca via sendmail with P\:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:06:58 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1998-Dec-27) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991214040656.0074cf3c@iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:06:56 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: New Aimee article Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN An online pal of mine just let me know that he came across an article about Aimee in the Jan/Feb 2000 issue of Nylon. I've never heard of this magazine before -- does anyone know if it's relatively easy to find? Is it only available in the US, or in Canada as well? Any help would be appreciated -- the article sounds like it's worth tracking down. Cheers, Jase >From indigo@mindspring.com Tue Dec 14 08:20:58 1999 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA07838 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:20:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from dh (user-2ivek5v.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.80.191]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03808 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:20:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991214091323.01289ba0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: indigo@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:19:07 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Deb Subject: Re: Set Your VCRs! video debut on 120 Minutes In-Reply-To: <0.ae574d25.2586f27d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >i missed 120 minutes! does anyone know if it will be repeated? I don't believe it will be... there is a *new* "120 Minutes" every Sunday (actually Monday morning) at midnight every week. Chances are pretty good that they'll play it again. But frankly, as much as I love the song, I think both the song and the video are much too slow to get a lot of airplay on MTV or anywhere else. Here's hoping I'm wrong. Maybe the cameos will keep it in rotation if nothing else. (Don't flame me, this is an indictment of MTV and popular radio, not of "Save Me"!) -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Tue Dec 14 08:52:37 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA13262 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:52:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:58:55 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.250 [206.8.2.250] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id D453F527B19911D3AE3A006097D4776C for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:58:54 -0600 Date: 14 Dec 99 08:54:04 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: Set Your VCRs! To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991214085855.d453f527b19911d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 498896AF-B17111D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id IAA13263 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: Set Your VCRs! Too... sleepy? Jack On 12/14/99, Deb wrote: I think both the song and the video are much too slow to get a lot of airplay on MTV or anywhere else. >From velvetpop@hotmail.com Tue Dec 14 09:32:58 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f160.hotmail.com [209.185.131.223]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id JAA16517 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:32:57 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 74678 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 1999 15:32:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19991214153223.74677.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.26.7.198 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:32:23 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.26.7.198] From: "chopkins beasley" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Someone has good taste Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:32:23 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey Neil, You'll be glad to know....My husband Jay is a sound engineer for a couple local clubs and we ALWAYS pack our Aimee cd's to play at set breaks especially when there's a pop or indie crowd. People always ask, WHO is THIS ???? Take care, Jane. >From: neilwilson@interim.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Someone has good taste >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:35:53 -0000 > >I was at a stereophonics gig in Birmingham, England on Saturday night. > >Before any bands started playing, someone has chosen to play WHATEVER over >the huge speakers...well I can't come to a live gig(being in the UK) but at >least I got to hear Aimee really loud in an arena...about as close as I'll >come to hearing her live for a bit I suspect. > >Regards >Neil Wilson > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From velvetpop@hotmail.com Tue Dec 14 10:10:11 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f9.hotmail.com [209.185.131.72]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id KAA20945 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:10:07 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 24024 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 1999 16:09:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19991214160931.24023.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.26.8.8 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:09:31 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.26.8.8] From: "chopkins beasley" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: MTV 120 Minutes Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:09:31 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN We were waiting with the remote in our hands to tape the video! It is truly wonderful to see her shine in the middle of so much crap. I really want to disagree about it being too slow to get much airplay....but have to consider the poisonous Steppford athletic candy songs oozing over vapid lyrics and large distorted bottoms flying into the camera at all angles. (golly who could resist?) I believe that many young kids hearing her for the first time will cling white-knuckled to avoid being swirled into that plasticland. I also think they will champion her honesty and enjoy the unclutteredness of the sound. Rebellion at it's finest. XO, Jane. >From: "Paul Barras" >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Re: MTV 120 Minutes >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:05:20 PST > >This is all great! Aimee on MTVF again!! Vindicated! Is it just me or is >it PAINFUL for anyone else on the list to listen to the radio. Whenever I >am >on the road and don't have a CD in the rental, I have to listen to talk >radio. There is a whole lot of garbage out there. Celine Dion's songs have >lines like "love will conquer it or all" or something like that. Brittney >Spears and Christine Aguilera. There outa be a law!! > > >>From: "Terry Ingalls" >>Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >>To: >>Subject: MTV 120 Minutes >>Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:50:00 -0500 >> >>Did anyone else catch the MTV debut of "Save Me" on 120 minutes last >>night? >>It was great to see it on a bigger screen and through my stereo system! >> >>Terry >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Tue Dec 14 10:30:15 1999 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA23920 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:30:12 -0600 (CST) From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Received: from MnnyMoNHak@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.c30df5c5 (4319) for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:29:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.c30df5c5.2587ca70@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:29:36 EST Subject: Re: New Aimee article To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN There is also a one-page article on Aimee in the new issue of Los Angeles magazine. >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Tue Dec 14 10:51:03 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA27509 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:51:02 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:56:31 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.250 [206.8.2.250] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id D453F7F0B19911D3AE3A006097D4776C for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:56:31 -0600 Date: 14 Dec 99 10:51:40 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: MTV 120 Minutes To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991214105631.d453f7f0b19911d3ae3a006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 86CD9D65-B23F11D3-AE3A0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id KAA27510 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: MTV 120 Minutes I don't know. Why does anyone watch videos to begin with? Has any Sheryl Crow video increased your appreciation of "The Globe Sessions?" Does anyone watch a Jennifer Lopez video for the music? Watching videos is like watching car wrecks. It's a perverse fascination. Will "Save Me" really compete in that environment? Jack On 12/14/99, Jane wrote: I believe that many young kids hearing her for the first time will cling white-knuckled to avoid being swirled into that plasticland. I also think they will champion her honesty and enjoy the unclutteredness of the sound. >From greg.antoniono@springstreet.com Tue Dec 14 11:02:51 1999 Received: from te03.springstreet.com (te03.springstreet.com [216.32.161.17]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA28526 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:02:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from tiger (nat.sf.springstreet.com [206.229.122.3]) by te03.springstreet.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/springstreet-cyrus-2.0) with SMTP id JAA19417 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:02:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00fe01bf4655$a9fabe90$8400000a@tiger.sf.springstreet.com> From: "Greg Antoniono" To: Subject: Re: a rant, a wee bit long(er) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:07:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Michael Stipe is closeted like I'm hiding my receding hairline. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Xmarty@aol.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 7:30 AM Subject: a rant, a wee bit long(er) >In a message dated 12/11/1999 6:05:15 AM Central Standard Time, Greg writes: > ><< REM has maintained a "presence" while Aimee has > been off the radar for quite sometime. And lastly, it never hurts a band's > standing, within the music biz, to have a gay front-man, albeit closeted. >> > >If he is "closeted", then how would you know that he is gay?? And if you >really do know, and he chose to be "closeted", why would you irresponsibly >post his secret on the Internet? > > >From Kenableken@aol.com Tue Dec 14 11:23:32 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA00351 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:23:31 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.848a573f (4216) for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:22:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.848a573f.2587d6f2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:22:58 EST Subject: Re: a rant, a wee bit long(er) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was going to say that. Not about your receding hairline though. And I also know plenty of people who have not been helped at all for being gay in the music industry.... >From shteevea@earthlink.net Tue Dec 14 11:56:24 1999 Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA03095 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:56:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from steve (dialup-209.245.160.192.Seattle1.Level3.net [209.245.160.192]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA26650 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:56:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven E. Alter" To: Subject: RE: a rant, a wee bit long(er) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:57:56 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <0.848a573f.2587d6f2@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN One of my favorite straight/gay musical memories would have to be seeing Melissa Etheridge when "Brave and Crazy" came out, and before she did the same. In front of me were beer swilling macho Mellencamp kind of guys rawkin'out, behind me a group of longhaired lesbians cheering on their girl. Both groups seemed completely oblivious to the other, and the boys certainly clueless about Ms. Etheridge's sexual orientation. The context provided much amusement to an already good show. -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Kenableken@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 9:23 AM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: a rant, a wee bit long(er) I was going to say that. Not about your receding hairline though. And I also know plenty of people who have not been helped at all for being gay in the music industry.... >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Tue Dec 14 12:10:39 1999 Received: from dockmaster.usfca.edu (dockmaster.usfca.edu [138.202.192.9]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA04587 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:10:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.42.37] (dialup-42-37.usfca.edu [138.202.42.37]) by dockmaster.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19070 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:10:42 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <991213172234DD.25490@weba8.iname.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:13:17 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: 120 minutes Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN i'm sure you've gotten quite a few responses, i've been felled with a cold and out of email touch for a few days, but just in case....aimee's video is the 2nd one they play -so its early on in the show. i stayed up to watch and dreamt of it all nite. aimee - she's a class act, she is....! Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From indigo@mindspring.com Tue Dec 14 12:31:44 1999 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA07104 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:31:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from dh (user-2ivek5v.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.80.191]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23130 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:31:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991214122015.011faf00@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: indigo@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:25:20 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Deb Subject: OT: Stipe In-Reply-To: <00fe01bf4655$a9fabe90$8400000a@tiger.sf.springstreet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN At 12:07 PM 12/14/99 , you wrote: >Michael Stipe is closeted like I'm hiding my receding hairline. Granted, he's one of those silly "I don't like labels" people, but it hasn't stopped him from rejecting the label of "straight" by discussing his attraction to both men and women (assuming that the nail polish, face glitter, ruffled shirts, and appearance last week on SNL as "the Christmas Fairy" didn't convince you!). But I still don't see how being a gay/bi man is the way to music success... I certainly can't think of any examples. In fact, I can't think of a single successful musician, male or female, who was out before they were successful. -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo >From pasquinade@erols.com Tue Dec 14 14:10:36 1999 Received: from isocor.reliastar.com (root@mail.reliastar.com [204.86.50.23]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA18028 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:10:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from erols.com (z23694.reliastar.com [172.16.31.215]) by isocor.reliastar.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29356 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:10:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3856A438.2C7B2131@erols.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:10:32 -0500 From: Ed Lynn Reply-To: pasquinade@erols.com X-Sender: "Ed Lynn" <@mail.reliastar.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-RS402-1 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: Stipe References: <4.2.2.19991214122015.011faf00@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Deb wrote: > Granted, he's one of those silly "I don't like labels" people, but it > hasn't stopped him from rejecting the label of "straight" by discussing his > attraction to both men and women (assuming that the nail polish, face > glitter, ruffled shirts, and appearance last week on SNL as "the Christmas > Fairy" didn't convince you!). Probably the funniest thing I've seen on that show in ages. I was literally rolling on the floor when he appeared. :) ed. >From DaveBrett@msn.com Tue Dec 14 14:34:34 1999 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com [207.46.181.19]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA27044 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:34:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from default.austin.rr.com - 63.11.185.217 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:33:57 -0800 Message-ID: <02fc01bf4672$c760f720$1f8e0e3f@austin.rr.com> Reply-To: "Brett Wasser" From: "Brett Wasser" To: "Aimee Mann Mailing List" Subject: Wait! I've got an Aimee-Idea Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:34:22 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN There are a whole bunch of older Aimee Mann clips that almost all of us want to see. I just thought of a way we might be able to see them. MTV's 120 minutes sometimes does a retrospective of a particular artist or group. It's usually when a musician (or group of musicians) appears as a guest in the studio, but not always. 120 Minutes also encourages comments and suggestions from viewers. Let's do an email campaign to get 120 Minutes to show each of these videos: (Believed You Were) Lucky - promotional video Fourth of July - promotional video Stupid Thing - promotional video Say Anything - promotional video I Hould Have Known - promotional video That's Just What You Are - promotional video Rip In Heaven: video documentary It's simple. Just cut and paste the above in an email to 120minutes@aol.com If they get 50-100 requests maybe they will show some of them!!! - Brett P.S. I'm a collector of hard to find music videos. I just found an out of print edition of Blondie's "Eat To The Beat" video collection. If anyone would like to trade, my whole list is at: http://homepages.msn.com/PlayingFields/davebrett/VideoCompilations.htm >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 14 18:54:52 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA10778 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:54:51 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.e8eee74 (4233) for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:54:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.e8eee74.258840b7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:54:15 EST Subject: Re: OT: Stipe To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I don't know any men who were out either before they became sucessful, but as for women, Ani Difranco is the only one whose gotten any mainstream sucess who has been out from the beginning as bi. There was a lot of hooplia when she got married to a guy, along the lines of "she's left her lesbian fans behind" but I always thought that was stupid. Andrea >From shane@netropolis.net Tue Dec 14 22:29:42 1999 Received: from mail.netropolis.net ([204.176.47.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA23912 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:29:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from preinstalledcom [216.104.6.61] by mail.netropolis.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A92C4BEE013C; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:29:32 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19991214222813.006c310c@netropolis.net> X-Sender: shane@netropolis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:28:13 -0600 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Eric Shane Helmer Subject: Re: OT: Stipe In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.19991214122015.011faf00@pop.mindspring.com> References: <00fe01bf4655$a9fabe90$8400000a@tiger.sf.springstreet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN What about Rufus Wainwright? He might not fit everyone's definition of successful, but his Jon Brion produced debut earned the attention of critics and a large following, both gay & straight. I attended his show here in Houston & there was a sizable crowd of young female groupies. Go figure! And he was out from the beginning, rumor has it, against the wishes of Dreamworks records. At 12:07 PM 12/14/99 , you wrote: > >>Michael Stipe is closeted like I'm hiding my receding hairline. > >Granted, he's one of those silly "I don't like labels" people, but it >hasn't stopped him from rejecting the label of "straight" by discussing his >attraction to both men and women (assuming that the nail polish, face >glitter, ruffled shirts, and appearance last week on SNL as "the Christmas >Fairy" didn't convince you!). > >But I still don't see how being a gay/bi man is the way to music success... >I certainly can't think of any examples. In fact, I can't think of a >single successful musician, male or female, who was out before they were >successful. > >-- >Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo > > > >From bryan@ispec.net Tue Dec 14 22:29:55 1999 Received: from tomail.ispec.net ([198.147.84.21]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA23927 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:29:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from [38.29.127.227] (ip227.los-angeles35.ca.pub-ip.psi.net [38.29.127.227]) by tomail.ispec.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id YSZNJMN4; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:29:35 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:32:00 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: Stipe From: Bryan H Woerner To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.19991214122015.011faf00@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Um, okay, now that I get to thinking about it, I can think of a few: Liberace Air Supply k.d. lang Ani DiFranco half of Queen Pet Shop Boys Erasure Right Said Fred Boy George (bi) David Bowie (bi) Elton John (midway through his career) Tanita Tikaram Jane Siberry All openly admitted their orientation before (and in a few cases LONG before) they hit the big time. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting. Oh, and Melissa Ethridge is much more popular now than she was before she came out. -- Bryan bryan@ispec.net > From: Deb > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:25:20 -0500 > Subject: OT: Stipe > > . . . > But I still don't see how being a gay/bi man is the way to music success... > I certainly can't think of any examples. In fact, I can't think of a > single successful musician, male or female, who was out before they were > successful. > . . . >From shteevea@earthlink.net Tue Dec 14 22:38:00 1999 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA24490 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:37:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from steve (dialup-209.244.111.83.Seattle1.Level3.net [209.244.111.83]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA00619 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:37:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven E. Alter" To: Subject: RE: OT: Stipe Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:39:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19991214222813.006c310c@netropolis.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Excellent point! And excellent album, too. Hard to beleive anyone at Dreamworks thought people wouldn't know RW was gay, but whaddya expect from record execs? -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Eric Shane Helmer Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 8:28 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: Stipe What about Rufus Wainwright? He might not fit everyone's definition of successful, but his Jon Brion produced debut earned the attention of critics and a large following, both gay & straight. I attended his show here in Houston & there was a sizable crowd of young female groupies. Go figure! And he was out from the beginning, rumor has it, against the wishes of Dreamworks records. At 12:07 PM 12/14/99 , you wrote: > >>Michael Stipe is closeted like I'm hiding my receding hairline. > >Granted, he's one of those silly "I don't like labels" people, but it >hasn't stopped him from rejecting the label of "straight" by discussing his >attraction to both men and women (assuming that the nail polish, face >glitter, ruffled shirts, and appearance last week on SNL as "the Christmas >Fairy" didn't convince you!). > >But I still don't see how being a gay/bi man is the way to music success... >I certainly can't think of any examples. In fact, I can't think of a >single successful musician, male or female, who was out before they were >successful. > >-- >Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo > > > >From Kenableken@aol.com Tue Dec 14 23:05:13 1999 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA25278 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:05:12 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.625318a2 (4218) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:04:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.625318a2.25887b63@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:04:35 EST Subject: Re: OT: Stipe To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Air Supply???? Right Said Fred: I remember them talking about how straight they were and how they were accepting of a gay following...it was only when they dipped in their brief popularity that being bay seemed like a good move. Queen...I wouldn't say they were out. etc. >From meganrp@rci.rutgers.edu Tue Dec 14 23:54:07 1999 Received: from amenti.rutgers.edu (amenti.rutgers.edu [165.230.116.133]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id XAA29177 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:54:06 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 4593 invoked by uid 11645); 15 Dec 1999 05:54:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:54:05 -0500 (EST) From: Megan Palasciano X-Sender: meganrp@amenti.rutgers.edu To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: Stipe In-Reply-To: <0.625318a2.25887b63@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >From what I can recall, at least 1 of the 2 members of the Pet Shop Boys only came out of the closet in the late 80's, well after their fame was established. =) Megan **************************************** Megan Palasciano Instructional Technologist Teaching Excellence Center meganrp@rci.rutgers.edu **************************************** Joe Jackson Lyrics: http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~meganrp/jj/ **************************************** >From MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Wed Dec 15 01:23:12 1999 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id BAA03661 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:23:11 -0600 (CST) From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Received: from MnnyMoNHak@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.3b96def8 (4223) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:22:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3b96def8.25889bbd@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:22:37 EST Subject: Re: OT: Stipe To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/14/99 8:30:25 PM, bryan@ispec.net writes: <> You're kidding, right? Liberace never came out. k.d. lang had at least three, maybe four albums out before she owned up. Freddy Mercury was never really seriously out in his lifetime. Elton John was in such denial for so long he got married (to a woman). Most of the others were publicly ambiguous at best, till the time came that they had nothing left to lose. I must say, Air Supply is a new one on me! <> Maybe you should look at the sales figures for her latest album, which were abysmal, or all the empty seats on her current small-hall tour (though that may be attributable to the $75 ticket price). >From incubus1@ix.netcom.com Wed Dec 15 01:28:13 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id BAA03771 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:28:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sji-ca43-234.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.234]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19112 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:28:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3856D228.F6E0DECD@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:26:32 +0000 From: Rob Moore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: Stipe References: <0.3b96def8.25889bbd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Thank You- I was waiting for someone to say this... MnnyMoNHak@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/14/99 8:30:25 PM, bryan@ispec.net writes: > > < > Liberace > Air Supply > k.d. lang > Ani DiFranco > half of Queen > Pet Shop Boys > Erasure > Right Said Fred > Boy George (bi) > David Bowie (bi) > Elton John (midway through his career) > Tanita Tikaram > Jane Siberry > > All openly admitted their orientation before (and in a few cases LONG > before) they hit the big time. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting. Oh, > and Melissa Ethridge is much more popular now than she was before she came > out.>> > > You're kidding, right? Liberace never came out. k.d. lang had at least three, > maybe four albums out before she owned up. Freddy Mercury was never really > seriously out in his lifetime. Elton John was in such denial for so long he > got married (to a woman). Most of the others were publicly ambiguous at best, > till the time came that they had nothing left to lose. I must say, Air Supply > is a new one on me! > > < came > out.>> > > Maybe you should look at the sales figures for her latest album, which were > abysmal, or all the empty seats on her current small-hall tour (though that > may be attributable to the $75 ticket price). >From roback@sirius.com Wed Dec 15 03:00:25 1999 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id DAA05566 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 03:00:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA45718 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:00:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912150900.BAA45718@mail1.sirius.com> Subject: Re: OT: Stipe Date: Wed, 15 Dec 99 01:02:08 -0800 x-sender: roback@pop.sirius.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: missy roback To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN wait. who besides Freddie? i've never heard of that. >> half of Queen ------------------ Missy Roback Honeybee Publishing 415.695.1642 coming soon ... honeybeepub.com >From TK03@aol.com Wed Dec 15 04:47:42 1999 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.72]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id EAA07694 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:47:42 -0600 (CST) From: TK03@aol.com Received: from TK03@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.3087f080 (4398) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:47:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3087f080.2588cbac@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:47:08 EST Subject: Re: OT: Stipe To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN With all of the excitement happening with Aimee Mann's career at this moment, let's not get caught up in speculation about the sexual orientation of musicians. Who really cares anyway? >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 15 06:01:36 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f14.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.14]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id GAA10867 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:01:35 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 6313 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 1999 12:01:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19991215120105.6312.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.209.90.188 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:01:04 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.209.90.188] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Latest Largo show recap Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:01:04 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Nice list, but it's still a stretch to support the original statement that being openly gay helped their music careers. Now, for Largo on December 14th: The set was as follows It's Not Safe Red Vines Ray Save Me No Choice in the Matter Ghost Town Just Like Anyone Wise Up (Michael Penn & Buddy accompanied) It seems my Largo shows have been extra short on Aimee. I mean 8 songs and JUST LIKE ANYONE is over in a blink!! She didn't do any encores. No dark late version of VOICES CARRY or STUPID THING. Michael Penn did an inspired set. HIgh notes were I SUPPOSE and HIGH TIME. The whole gang did one encore NO MYTH with Aimee, yes AIMEE, singing the lead. It was interesting. She did not come out (I refer to her making an appearance from the back, not the coming out that has been the latest topic of discussion) after the show, but after a brief meeting with Michael Hausman, he went and got some stuff autgraphed for us. I really thought Penn and Mann would do their ChristmasTime duo after all, 'Tis the Season. Met the legendary Salt5. Salt of the earth kind of guy. ;-) Dan, you missed dinner! I left word at the door. My flight was late, but I made it there by 815. Where were you?!! >From: Bryan H Woerner > >Um, okay, now that I get to thinking about it, I can think of a few: > >Liberace >Air Supply >k.d. lang >Ani DiFranco >half of Queen >Pet Shop Boys >Erasure >Right Said Fred >Boy George (bi) >David Bowie (bi) >Elton John (midway through his career) >Tanita Tikaram >Jane Siberry > >All openly admitted their orientation before ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 15 07:01:41 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f66.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id HAA20819 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:01:40 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 53002 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 1999 13:01:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19991215130109.53001.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.209.93.232 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:01:09 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.209.93.232] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: coming to a location near you?! Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:01:09 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was given the exact dates and venues of Aimee's next tour which will include San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle. Then Aimee will be off to New York for at least five shows. I have been instructed by Michael to relay this information to CdNow first as they require all information prior to official in order to include it in their e-mailing. I can give you a hint: none of the dates are in 1999. I will be able to post them to the Mannlist, hopefully, by Friday. Also, after talking to Salt, I realized something. He is truly the greatest Aimee Mann fan. However, his interests may be a little impure. If anything "suspicious" ever happens to Michael Penn, He should be a suspect. He had no kind words for Mr. Penn. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Scott.Fickle@asphalt-materials.com Wed Dec 15 08:48:33 1999 Received: from hgexas01.asphalt-materials.com (hgexas01.asphalt-materials.com [208.200.241.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA26914 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:48:28 -0600 (CST) Received: by HGEXAS01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:42:06 -0500 Message-ID: <428273F742E6D2119B3500805FEA15CC59D070@HGEXAS01> From: "Fickle, Scott" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: OT: Stipe Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:41:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF470A.7AF3093A" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF470A.7AF3093A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anybody REALLY care about this? I mean really I thought this was supposed to be about Aimee Mann topics, as far as I know she isn't a lesbian. Enough is enough already... -----Original Message----- From: Eric Shane Helmer [mailto:shane@netropolis.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 11:28 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: Stipe What about Rufus Wainwright? He might not fit everyone's definition of successful, but his Jon Brion produced debut earned the attention of critics and a large following, both gay & straight. I attended his show here in Houston & there was a sizable crowd of young female groupies. Go figure! And he was out from the beginning, rumor has it, against the wishes of Dreamworks records. At 12:07 PM 12/14/99 , you wrote: > >>Michael Stipe is closeted like I'm hiding my receding hairline. > >Granted, he's one of those silly "I don't like labels" people, but it >hasn't stopped him from rejecting the label of "straight" by discussing his >attraction to both men and women (assuming that the nail polish, face >glitter, ruffled shirts, and appearance last week on SNL as "the Christmas >Fairy" didn't convince you!). > >But I still don't see how being a gay/bi man is the way to music success... >I certainly can't think of any examples. In fact, I can't think of a >single successful musician, male or female, who was out before they were >successful. > >-- >Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF470A.7AF3093A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: OT: Stipe

    Does anybody REALLY care about = this?  I mean really I thought this was supposed to be about Aimee = Mann topics, as far as I know she isn't a lesbian.  Enough is = enough already...


 -----Original Message-----
From:   Eric Shane Helmer [mailto:shane@netropolis.net] =
Sent:   Tuesday, December 14, 1999 11:28 = PM
To:     = mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
Subject:        = Re: OT: Stipe

What about Rufus Wainwright?  He might not fit = everyone's definition of
successful, but his Jon Brion produced debut earned = the attention of
critics and a large following, both gay & = straight.  I attended his show
here in Houston & there was a sizable crowd of = young female groupies.  Go
figure!  And he was out from the beginning, = rumor has it, against the
wishes of Dreamworks records.

At 12:07 PM 12/14/99 , you wrote:
>
>>Michael Stipe is closeted like I'm hiding my = receding hairline.
>
>Granted, he's one of those silly "I don't = like labels" people, but it
>hasn't stopped him from rejecting the label of = "straight" by discussing his
>attraction to both men and women  (assuming = that the nail polish, face
>glitter, ruffled shirts, and appearance last = week on SNL as "the Christmas
>Fairy" didn't convince you!).
>
>But I still don't see how being a gay/bi man is = the way to music success...
>I certainly can't think of any examples.  = In fact, I can't think of a
>single successful musician, male or female, who = was out before they were
>successful.
>
>--
>Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo
>
>
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF470A.7AF3093A-- >From ElizaS33@aol.com Wed Dec 15 09:01:08 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA29003 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:01:07 -0600 (CST) From: ElizaS33@aol.com Received: from ElizaS33@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.8c9d3af1 (3979) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:00:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8c9d3af1.2589070b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:00:27 EST Subject: Re: OT: Stipe To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Dreamworks was totally supportive of Rufus Wainwright's openness about his orientation. Lenny Waronker is one of the few good guys in the biz. Freddie Mercury and Liberace never came out. Boy George didn't until very late (which ruined his relationship with the band's drummer). Bowie was pretty damn successful before he started talking about his bisexuality. And my sister knows one of the singers from Air Supply and his wife fairly well. Which doesn't mean he's not gay, but doesn't sound like "out" to me. Elizabeth In a message dated 12/14/99 11:32:20 PM, MnnyMoNHak@aol.com writes: << <> >> >From indigo@mindspring.com Wed Dec 15 09:18:18 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA00739 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:18:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from dh (user-2ivekdk.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.81.180]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24433 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:18:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991215101221.012223d0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: indigo@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:16:43 -0500 To: Aimee Mann Mailing List From: Deb Subject: Chat with PT Anderson TOMORROW, Dec 16 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Note that this is at 8pm CENTRAL TIME. >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:38:29 -0600 >From: "Broadcast.com Newsletter" > >Yahoo! Broadcast Newsletter >Dec. 14, 1999 - Dec. 16, 1999 >http://www.broadcast.com/ >All times in Central Time >=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ > >Text-based Chat with "Magnolia" Director Paul Thomas Anderson - Paul >Thomas Anderson, director of "Boogie Nights," has a new movie, "Magnolia," >opening in theaters Dec. 17. The story tracks the intersecting lives of >several Los Angeles residents on one day. The New Line film stars Tom >Cruise, Julianne Moore, Jason Robards and Philip Baker Hall. >Thurs. Dec. 16 8pm >http://chat.yahoo.com/c/events/info/1999/12/16/121699anderson.html >=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ >SUBSCRIPTIONS >To unsubscribe to this newsletter, send an email to: >listserv@mailhost2.broadcast.com >Please turn off all signatures and type only the following >text in body of the note: >SIGNOFF gbook >In other words: >Your "To" line should read: listserv@mailhost2.broadcast.com >Your "From" line should have your email address. >The "Subject" line can be blank or have a descriptive message. >The "Body", that is the actual text of your reply should contain >only one line with EXACTLY this text: SIGNOFF gbook > >=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ >QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS >Send an email to: >newsletter@broadcast.com -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo >From lex@inch.com Wed Dec 15 10:03:41 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA04990 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:03:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (TC3-dial-173-215.oldslip.inch.com [207.240.215.173]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with ESMTP id LAA07784 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:03:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3857BBD0.CCB8A6F0@inch.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:03:28 -0500 From: Lex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Momentum References: <4.2.2.19991215101221.012223d0@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi, Does anyone out there have the chords to Momentum? Thanks, Lex >From velvetpop@hotmail.com Wed Dec 15 11:05:30 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f272.hotmail.com [209.185.130.188]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id LAA12539 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:05:25 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 85017 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 1999 17:04:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19991215170450.85016.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.26.7.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:04:50 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.26.7.32] From: "chopkins beasley" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: MTV 120 Minutes Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:04:50 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN HMMMMM...well here are my thoughts on that.....When I was a teenager, and MTV was new, it was a great way to find out about up and coming artists as well as people who had been around for a while scratching and crawling etc. Since then, the show has obviously fallen into the ranks of Texas Walker Ranger reruns. I guess I watch videos (now only once in a while) because I'm a musician and I haven't given up hope that one time when I turn to the music channels ther'll be Sheryl Crow or Macy Gray...I do admit it is an AWFUL waste of time to try and perhaps doesn't REALLY increase my appreciation. But, it isn't about what I would like; it certainly isn't geared toward MY perverse fascination. (which would be lining up all those disposable bi-products and tatooing their forhead with, "my shallow music sucks" I honestly was glad to see Aimee up there and if a few hundred kids "get on" to her, then in my opinion that is super! I think the "competition" part is laughable. We all know of wonderful artists who are overlooked for 17 year-olds, there will always be a market for that stuff. Aimee Mann and her music give my music lots of hope and I'm not giving up. Thanks for listening. take care, Jane. >From: "Jack Steinmann" >Reply-To: Jack Steinmann >To: mannlist >Subject: Re: MTV 120 Minutes >Date: 14 Dec 99 10:51:40 -0600 > > Reply to: re: Re: MTV 120 Minutes > >I don't know. Why does anyone watch videos to begin with? Has any Sheryl >Crow video increased your appreciation of "The Globe Sessions?" Does >anyone watch a Jennifer Lopez video for the music? Watching videos is like >watching car wrecks. It's a perverse fascination. Will "Save Me" really >compete in that environment? > > >Jack > > > >On 12/14/99, Jane wrote: >I believe that many young kids hearing her for the first time will cling >white-knuckled to avoid being swirled into that plasticland. I also think >they will champion her honesty and enjoy the unclutteredness of the sound. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From indigo@mindspring.com Wed Dec 15 11:10:37 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA13151 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:10:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from dh (user-2ivekdk.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.81.180]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21325 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:10:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991215111756.0136deb0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: indigo@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:29:12 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Deb Subject: Re: OT: Stipe In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.19991214122015.011faf00@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Not sure where you get your information, but Ani is the *only* example I see below of someone who was out *before* becoming famous (not sure about Erasure). Is Tanita Tikaram really out? Hard to tell since she fell off the face of the earth after that wonderful debut (yes, I bought subsequent albums but they didn't live up to the promise of the first). Eric's example of Rufus Wainright was a good one. This is promising, since it is much harder for men to be out than women. Sophie B. Hawkins was out early, too, now that I think about it. But I still fail to see how having a gay front-man is the ticket to success in music... Memo to self-appointed list police: obviously, this subject is of interest to a few folks, or the messages would cease. Please make note of the "OT" (off-topic) designation above, and act accordingly... -- Deb At 11:32 PM 12/14/99 , you wrote: >Um, okay, now that I get to thinking about it, I can think of a few: > >Liberace >Air Supply >k.d. lang >Ani DiFranco >half of Queen >Pet Shop Boys >Erasure >Right Said Fred >Boy George (bi) >David Bowie (bi) >Elton John (midway through his career) >Tanita Tikaram >Jane Siberry > >All openly admitted their orientation before (and in a few cases LONG >before) they hit the big time. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting. Oh, >and Melissa Ethridge is much more popular now than she was before she came >out. > >-- >Bryan >bryan@ispec.net > > > > From: Deb > > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:25:20 -0500 > > Subject: OT: Stipe > > > > . . . > > But I still don't see how being a gay/bi man is the way to music success... > > I certainly can't think of any examples. In fact, I can't think of a > > single successful musician, male or female, who was out before they were > > successful. > > . . . >From shteevea@earthlink.net Wed Dec 15 11:23:49 1999 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA14457 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:23:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from steve (dialup-209.245.175.79.Seattle1.Level3.net [209.245.175.79]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA22055 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:23:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven E. Alter" To: Subject: RE: coming to a location near you?! Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:25:04 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <19991215130109.53001.qmail@hotmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN SEATTLE?!?!?! WHEN?!?!?!?!? -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Paul Barras Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 5:01 AM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: coming to a location near you?! I was given the exact dates and venues of Aimee's next tour which will include San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle. Then Aimee will be off to New York for at least five shows. I have been instructed by Michael to relay this information to CdNow first as they require all information prior to official in order to include it in their e-mailing. I can give you a hint: none of the dates are in 1999. I will be able to post them to the Mannlist, hopefully, by Friday. Also, after talking to Salt, I realized something. He is truly the greatest Aimee Mann fan. However, his interests may be a little impure. If anything "suspicious" ever happens to Michael Penn, He should be a suspect. He had no kind words for Mr. Penn. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Michael@lbdg.com Wed Dec 15 11:28:06 1999 Received: from lbdgmail.LIONAKIS (adsl-216-102-122-227.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [216.102.122.227]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA14840 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:28:05 -0600 (CST) Received: by LBDGMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:27:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: Michael Hodges To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RE: OT: Stipe Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:26:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN How about Morrissey(sp?)... -----Original Message----- From: Deb [SMTP:indigo@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 8:29 AM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT: Stipe Not sure where you get your information, but Ani is the *only* example I see below of someone who was out *before* becoming famous (not sure about Erasure). Is Tanita Tikaram really out? Hard to tell since she fell off the face of the earth after that wonderful debut (yes, I bought subsequent albums but they didn't live up to the promise of the first). Eric's example of Rufus Wainright was a good one. This is promising, since it is much harder for men to be out than women. Sophie B. Hawkins was out early, too, now that I think about it. But I still fail to see how having a gay front-man is the ticket to success in music... Memo to self-appointed list police: obviously, this subject is of interest to a few folks, or the messages would cease. Please make note of the "OT" (off-topic) designation above, and act accordingly... -- Deb At 11:32 PM 12/14/99 , you wrote: >Um, okay, now that I get to thinking about it, I can think of a few: > >Liberace >Air Supply >k.d. lang >Ani DiFranco >half of Queen >Pet Shop Boys >Erasure >Right Said Fred >Boy George (bi) >David Bowie (bi) >Elton John (midway through his career) >Tanita Tikaram >Jane Siberry > >All openly admitted their orientation before (and in a few cases LONG >before) they hit the big time. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting. Oh, >and Melissa Ethridge is much more popular now than she was before she came >out. > >-- >Bryan >bryan@ispec.net > > > > From: Deb > > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:25:20 -0500 > > Subject: OT: Stipe > > > > . . . > > But I still don't see how being a gay/bi man is the way to music success... > > I certainly can't think of any examples. In fact, I can't think of a > > single successful musician, male or female, who was out before they were > > successful. > > . . . >From DMedsker@aol.com Wed Dec 15 11:48:42 1999 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA16831 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:48:42 -0600 (CST) From: DMedsker@aol.com Received: from DMedsker@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.6254e4e1 (4231) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:48:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6254e4e1.25892e58@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:48:08 EST Subject: In & Out To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 31 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > > Maybe you should look at the sales figures for her latest album, which were > > abysmal, or all the empty seats on her current small-hall tour (though > that may be attributable to the $75 ticket price). Or it may be because she hasn't made a decent record in five years. Granted, I'm not a big Melissa fan, but everything I've heard from her last two albums pales to the previous work. I'm also interested in finding out which other member of Queen played for the other team. Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys was always very coy about his sexual preference, and only started planting clues on their 1990 album Behavior, and didn't REALLY make it obvious until 1993's Very. I'd never heard the Air Supply one, either. Rufus Wainwright, for the record, put on one of the best concerts I've ever seen. What a great storyteller and all around funny guy he is. I just bought a ticket on a whim (his voice drives my wife nuts, so I went solo), and he blew me away. I can't wait for him to come back. I find it ironic that Dreamworks wanted him to keep a lid on his sexual perference, since David Geffen is one of the partners. Do as I say, not as I do, is it? And anyway, there is no way Rufus could hide it even if he wanted to. What kills me is how some of the guys from the early metal years are now coming out, like Rob Halford of Judas Priest. And when is Morrissey going to 'fess up? At this point, he should probably remain the asexual we've known him to be. DAM >From Kenableken@aol.com Wed Dec 15 11:54:12 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA17201 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:54:11 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.529776d0 (4391) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:53:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.529776d0.25892fa0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:53:36 EST Subject: RE: coming to a location near you?! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I want to go to all shows! I actually have a free air ticket, so maybe it would be fun to see her in Portland....when do we get the dates??? >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Wed Dec 15 14:01:11 1999 Received: from blacksun.usfca.edu (root@blacksun.usfca.edu [138.202.192.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA29880 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:01:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.40.185] (dialup-40-185.usfca.edu [138.202.40.185]) by blacksun.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA22110 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:59:53 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3856D228.F6E0DECD@ix.netcom.com> References: <0.3b96def8.25889bbd@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:03:41 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: OT: Stipe Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Freddy Mercury was relatively open about his bisexuality throughout his career- and from what i've heard he was VERy open about it within his close circle - again, i'm a firm believer in not everyone needing to air their sexual preference, esp.to a fan base, if they need not want to. It was his having AIDS that he wanted kept quiet until he realized he should make a statement prior to his death. Freddy was one of a kind. There will never be another like him! p.s when you say 1/2 of Queen was gay - are you referring to Roger Taylor? i know he fancies garden gnomes...... >Thank You- I was waiting for someone to say this... > >MnnyMoNHak@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 12/14/99 8:30:25 PM, bryan@ispec.net writes: >> >> <> >> Liberace >> Air Supply >> k.d. lang >> Ani DiFranco >> half of Queen >> Pet Shop Boys >> Erasure >> Right Said Fred >> Boy George (bi) >> David Bowie (bi) >> Elton John (midway through his career) >> Tanita Tikaram >> Jane Siberry >> >> All openly admitted their orientation before (and in a few cases LONG >> before) they hit the big time. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting. Oh, >> and Melissa Ethridge is much more popular now than she was before she came >> out.>> >> >> You're kidding, right? Liberace never came out. k.d. lang had at least >>three, >> maybe four albums out before she owned up. Freddy Mercury was never really >> seriously out in his lifetime. Elton John was in such denial for so long he >> got married (to a woman). Most of the others were publicly ambiguous at >>best, >> till the time came that they had nothing left to lose. I must say, Air >>Supply >> is a new one on me! >> >> <> came >> out.>> >> >> Maybe you should look at the sales figures for her latest album, which were >> abysmal, or all the empty seats on her current small-hall tour (though that >> may be attributable to the $75 ticket price). Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Wed Dec 15 14:08:02 1999 Received: from blacksun.usfca.edu (root@blacksun.usfca.edu [138.202.192.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA00603 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:07:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.40.185] (dialup-40-185.usfca.edu [138.202.40.185]) by blacksun.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA22385 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:06:43 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991215130109.53001.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:10:33 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: coming to a location near you?! Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN San Francisco cannot get enough of Aimee - she played Slim's a few mos. back and she complemented us on our very good behavior - not a heckler in the bunch! she was mesmerizing. >I was given the exact dates and venues of Aimee's next tour which will >include San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle. Then Aimee will be off to New >York for at least five shows. I have been instructed by Michael to relay >this information to CdNow first as they require all information prior to >official in order to include it in their e-mailing. I can give you a hint: >none of the dates are in 1999. I will be able to post them to the Mannlist, >hopefully, by Friday. > >Also, after talking to Salt, I realized something. He is truly the greatest >Aimee Mann fan. However, his interests may be a little impure. If anything >"suspicious" ever happens to Michael Penn, He should be a suspect. He had >no kind words for Mr. Penn. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Wed Dec 15 14:43:47 1999 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA04612 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:43:47 -0600 (CST) From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Received: from MnnyMoNHak@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.53848038 (3843) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:43:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.53848038.2589575b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:43:07 EST Subject: Re: In & Out To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/15/1999 10:49:27 AM, DMedsker@aol.com writes: <> This is just patently not true. I've talked to both Wainwright and Jon Brion about DreamWorks, and the latter fellow in particular was quite astonished at how supportive DreamWorks was of everything that was unique and odd--dare I say queer--about Rufus. If anybody has any evidence that DreamWorks wanted to keep Wainwright in the closet, I'd like to hear about it, but it seems like there are falsehoods being spread here. >From Triton712@aol.com Wed Dec 15 16:09:53 1999 Received: from imo-d10.mx (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA15376 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:09:52 -0600 (CST) From: Triton712@aol.com Received: from Triton712@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.298d7f0b (3312) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:09:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.298d7f0b.25896b8d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:09:17 EST Subject: Re: Momentum To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/15/99 10:05:52 AM Central Standard Time, lex@inch.com writes: << Does anyone out there have the chords to Momentum?>> damn...are they missing again? >From BKbilly@aol.com Wed Dec 15 16:12:12 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA15515 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:12:11 -0600 (CST) From: BKbilly@aol.com Received: from BKbilly@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.79d50595 (4001) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:11:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.79d50595.25896c18@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:11:36 EST Subject: Re: In & Out To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN As an Aimee Mann fan, and, actually, a gay man, I must say: WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS????? How did we get on this tangent, and can we get off of it now? IN SUM: Some people are gay, some are not, some gay musicians are successful, or not, some famous people lie about the sexual orientation... let's talk about Aimee! Yikes! Which brings me to my next topic: Any other thoughts about the video? As much as it was a kick to see Aimee on MTV again, I wasn't thrilled with it. The part I liked the most was at the end, when she was I think in a taxicab, and she seems to almost grin, it's so cute. But the video all together is sort of drab. Maybe seeing the movie will help with that, for me. Any other thoughts? >From Triton712@aol.com Wed Dec 15 16:28:50 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA17019 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:28:48 -0600 (CST) From: Triton712@aol.com Received: from Triton712@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.d14ece11 (3312) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:28:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.d14ece11.25896ffc@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:28:12 EST Subject: Re: In & Out/Aimee on MTV To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/15/99 4:17:45 PM Central Standard Time, BKbilly@aol.com writes: << As much as it was a kick to see Aimee on MTV again >> Help. I've never seen a single Aimee video in my life (other than the old "Voices Carry"). Sad, huh? So, I have a question/cry for help. Is there a way to know what videos MTV is going to air? Some sort of schedule that can be accessed, maybe on the 'net? Ain't no way I'm going to sit through hours and hours of "Road Rules" and drunk, half-naked teenagers all going "WHOOOO!" just hoping a 4 minute video will air... Thanks, Gregory np... Wilco, "Summerteeth" >From greg.antoniono@springstreet.com Wed Dec 15 16:38:03 1999 Received: from te03.springstreet.com (te03.springstreet.com [216.32.161.17]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA17752 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:38:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from tiger (nat.sf.springstreet.com [206.229.122.3]) by te03.springstreet.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/springstreet-cyrus-2.0) with SMTP id OAA16897 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:37:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <029e01bf474d$ad159570$8400000a@tiger.sf.springstreet.com> From: "Greg Antoniono" To: Subject: Re: In & Out Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:42:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Yeah, really folks ... I saw Jane Siberry in concert on Monday in San Francisco and not ONCE did she mention her sexual orientation, her significant other, or political causes (like the local SF mayoral race) ... and somehow, I had a great time. Now that's shocking. Greg -----Original Message----- From: BKbilly@aol.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 2:13 PM Subject: Re: In & Out >As an Aimee Mann fan, and, actually, a gay man, I must say: > >WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS????? How did we get on this tangent, and can we >get off of it now? IN SUM: Some people are gay, some are not, some gay >musicians are successful, or not, some famous people lie about the sexual >orientation... let's talk about Aimee! Yikes! > >Which brings me to my next topic: Any other thoughts about the video? As much >as it was a kick to see Aimee on MTV again, I wasn't thrilled with it. The >part I liked the most was at the end, when she was I think in a taxicab, and >she seems to almost grin, it's so cute. But the video all together is sort of >drab. Maybe seeing the movie will help with that, for me. > >Any other thoughts? > > >From shteevea@earthlink.net Wed Dec 15 16:46:39 1999 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA18541 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:46:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from steve (dialup-209.244.111.55.Seattle1.Level3.net [209.244.111.55]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA15212 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven E. Alter" To: Subject: RE: In & Out Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:47:46 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <0.79d50595.25896c18@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN HOORAY! As an Aimee fan, and straight man, I'd like to second your emotion! -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of BKbilly@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 2:12 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: In & Out As an Aimee Mann fan, and, actually, a gay man, I must say: WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS????? How did we get on this tangent, and can we get off of it now? IN SUM: Some people are gay, some are not, some gay musicians are successful, or not, some famous people lie about the sexual orientation... let's talk about Aimee! Yikes! Which brings me to my next topic: Any other thoughts about the video? As much as it was a kick to see Aimee on MTV again, I wasn't thrilled with it. The part I liked the most was at the end, when she was I think in a taxicab, and she seems to almost grin, it's so cute. But the video all together is sort of drab. Maybe seeing the movie will help with that, for me. Any other thoughts? >From 103125.1703@compuserve.com Wed Dec 15 17:00:34 1999 Received: from spdmgaad.compuserve.com (ds-img-4.compuserve.com [149.174.206.137]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA21321 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:00:33 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id SAA10106 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:00:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:59:32 -0500 From: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> Subject: Ads Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu To: Mannlist Message-ID: <199912151759_MC2-9140-4216@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id RAA21322 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Sender: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN There's a big Tower Records ad with Aimee's picture promoting the release of Music From the Motion Picture Magnolia in Time Out New York (page 202). "Featuring nine brilliant songs from critically acclaimed singer-songwriter Aimee Mann, including "Save Me". I've also seen another Magnolia TV ad highlighting Tom Cruise with "Save Me" blasting through. >From Logan00NC@aol.com Wed Dec 15 18:23:09 1999 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.72]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA06657 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:23:08 -0600 (CST) From: Logan00NC@aol.com Received: from Logan00NC@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ee898012 (3310) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:22:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ee898012.25898ac7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:22:31 EST Subject: Re: OT: Stipe To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Melissa Ethridge is still more popular now than before she came "out". If her record sales are hurting, I doubt it has anything to do with her orientation. She had a huge wave of success right after she came "out". What kills me is the whole "out" thing. Its as if a gay or lesbian is hiding something if they don't make some big "announcement" to the whole planet that they are gay. Nothing wrong with "being" gay - but if the concept is that if someone isn't "out" then they are in "the closet" - then do straight folks have to "come out" and make the formal announcement? I know, I know - I'm really minimalizing the whole thing - but the whole in/out (closet) thing seems so backwards to me. I sort of say this because I really do believe that orientation is something someone is born with and that it shouldn't be a big deal either way. I think with all the presure some gays/lesbians feel - many either go over board in "outing" themselves or are so scared of rejection they hide as a deep dark secret. Both are extremes. Maybe as people become more accepting (and I think there is more acceptance in the world than not - but the negative is always louder and more focused on) people can just be themselves without it being a big deal. Anyhow - way off topic. And definately not something to debate thru the list - so feel free to email me privately. >From greg.antoniono@springstreet.com Wed Dec 15 18:48:18 1999 Received: from te03.springstreet.com (te03.springstreet.com [216.32.161.17]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA10969 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:48:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from tiger (nat.sf.springstreet.com [206.229.122.3]) by te03.springstreet.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/springstreet-cyrus-2.0) with SMTP id QAA22926 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:47:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <034101bf475f$df4b1c10$8400000a@tiger.sf.springstreet.com> From: "Greg Antoniono" To: Subject: Re: OT: Stipe Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:52:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Much of the blurriness about "in" and "out" has to do with the politicizing sexuality ... when sexual orientation / identity moved from being more or less ignored as a political issue to being important (beginning in the late 1960s), it started being seen as the focal point of one's being (from, say, "Rock Hudson, the actor" to "Rock Hudson, the gay actor"), the whole notion of "in" and "out" became really important. For a variety of reasons, such as the people who were "in" were seen as being unsupportive of those fighting for rights ... what scares me is that in 1999, sexual orientation protections are still controversial, and companies (such as Exxon) are rescinding gains such as benefits for partners. So IMHO the topic, generally, is important (we're talking civil rights here folks - such as equal protection under the law) though I would agree with all those who say it has no place on this particular bulletin board. So consider this my last rant. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Logan00NC@aol.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 4:28 PM Subject: Re: OT: Stipe >Melissa Ethridge is still more popular now than before she came >"out". If her record sales are hurting, I doubt it has anything to >do with her orientation. She had a huge wave of success right >after she came "out". > >What kills me is the whole "out" thing. Its as if a gay or lesbian >is hiding something if they don't make some big "announcement" >to the whole planet that they are gay. Nothing wrong with "being" >gay - but if the concept is that if someone isn't "out" then they are >in "the closet" - then do straight folks have to "come out" and make >the formal announcement? I know, I know - I'm really minimalizing >the whole thing - but the whole in/out (closet) thing seems so >backwards to me. I sort of say this because I really do believe that >orientation is something someone is born with and that it shouldn't >be a big deal either way. I think with all the presure some gays/lesbians >feel - many either go over board in "outing" themselves or are so scared >of rejection they hide as a deep dark secret. Both are extremes. Maybe >as people become more accepting (and I think there is more acceptance >in the world than not - but the negative is always louder and more focused >on) people can just be themselves without it being a big deal. > >Anyhow - way off topic. And definately not something to debate thru >the list - so feel free to email me privately. > > >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 15 18:55:15 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA11245 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:55:14 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.d14dd4f4 (3984) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:54:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.d14dd4f4.2589924e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:54:38 EST Subject: Re: In & Out To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The only person who was worried about Rufus coming out was his mom, Kate McGarricle. She was worried, if I remeber correctly, that things would be harder for him if he did. As far as I know things are okay between them now. His dad, Loudin Wainwright, was okay about everything. And the article I got this information from was a NY Times article about him. This article didn't mention anything about Dreamworks, I'm sure Rufus would have said something about this if Dreamworks were trying to closet him. Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 15 19:27:53 1999 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA14117 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:27:52 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.aa7e0800 (3984) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:27:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.aa7e0800.258999f0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:27:12 EST Subject: Re: OT: Stipe To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I kind of agree with what Logan is saying, being out shouldn't make a diffrence except maybe for the occional song about what they are, their lover ect. You don't eat, sleep, and talk gay or lesbian, so what's so big about being out. What makes it big is that when everyone knows about you, your gossiped about by your fans, and you absolutely refuse to acknowlege the obvious, it's then you become a joke. And that's sad. Of course when you do come out, you then write these impossibably vauge lyrics about relationships,that for all you know could be about straight relationships you've had (but not interpeted that way) with all the soap opara bluster you can muster, and all your fans fall at your feet because your out, even if you have no musical talent whatsoever and you've been writitng these kind of lyrics forever, sort of SOS's from the closet. or your voice is so good that it cover up all of this. I think people might have guessed this by now, that I'm the only lesbian in the US who doesn't like ME, KD or the IG's for these reasons. They are so stupid, where's Ani when you need her, or Jill Souble, two artists who don't do this and they're bi. And it's not just singers, look at all the stuff about Jodie Foster or Tom Cruse and Nicole Kidman, it's the same thing with them. It's a real shame, they should just get it over with and be done with it. Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 15 19:32:48 1999 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA14388 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:32:47 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.83e4a983 (3984) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:32:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.83e4a983.25899b18@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:32:08 EST Subject: Re: OT: Stipe To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Exactily Greg, I agree, it is scary and it shouldn't be happening. For those who are stright and can't get a handle on this, think of it this way. What if gay were treated like striaght is now, and the whole world is gay centric (the mirror image of right now, hetro centric). Now what if you were stright, in the closet and then you came out and had to make your way in a hetrophobic world, where it is still controversial to be stright. You'd have the same feelings and thoughts as a gay person would in this world. And you'd want your rights. Andrea >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 15 20:56:47 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f21.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.21]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id UAA18333 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:56:46 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 58343 invoked by uid 0); 16 Dec 1999 02:56:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19991216025615.58342.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.172.215 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:56:15 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.172.215] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: NYC Dates Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:56:15 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This will be like playng the hot/cold game. No, Aimee's five New York dates are pretty much entirely in another month. I don't think he gave me exact dates on New York, but a window. He gave me exact dates on West Coast though. Other East Coast folk take heart. You will probably see Aimee in late February as she will undoubtedly play a few other venues. I mean, she can't go all that way and just play New York. THAT PART IS JUSTHOPEFUL SPECULATION THOUGH. I need to confirm what Michael told me with Salt and then I will let you all know shortly. Sadly, as hard as we worked to promote Aimee to Seattle, she is coming when I will be out-of-state. I will come back at great expense just for the shows in Seattle and Portland though. Incidentally, since there has been so much gay subtext lately, did anyone at the show on the 14th notice on Aimee's vocals for NO MYTH, did she change the pronouns to make it hetero friendly?! I was just so shocked she was singing lead on it that I didn't notice. I was just humming the actual lyrics dizzily. >From: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> > >Please put my mind at ease and tell me the Aimee-NYC dates are not between >January 14th through January 22nd which is the only week of the year I >can't be in the City. > >Thanks, > >Jim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From indigo@mindspring.com Wed Dec 15 21:10:30 1999 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (smtp7.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.51]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA19254 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:10:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from dh (user-2ivekhv.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.82.63]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA20469 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:10:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991215220139.01284180@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: indigo@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:05:32 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Deb Subject: Re: In & Out/Aimee on MTV In-Reply-To: <0.d14ece11.25896ffc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN At 05:28 PM 12/15/99 , Triton712@aol.com wrote: > Ain't no way I'm going to sit through hours and hours of "Road Rules" >and drunk, half-naked teenagers all going "WHOOOO!" just hoping a 4 minute >video will air... That, my friend, is where VCRs come into their own.... you can watch 6 hours of MTV in about 20 minutes, tops. :-) I'd expect this video to get more airplay on VH-1, though. -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 15 21:18:32 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f186.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.186]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id VAA19943 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:18:32 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 86709 invoked by uid 0); 16 Dec 1999 03:18:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19991216031801.86708.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.172.215 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:18:01 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.172.215] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: The dates are a'comin' Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:18:01 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN As soon as I hear back from Kevin Raub at CdNow, I will let you guys know. They are REALLY touchy. They want to be the ones with the official "scoop". >From: Kenableken@aol.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: RE: coming to a location near you?! >Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:53:36 EST > >I want to go to all shows! I actually have a free air ticket, so maybe it >would be fun to see her in Portland....when do we get the dates??? > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 15 21:33:23 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA20843 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:33:22 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.bfa06a33 (4072) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:32:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.bfa06a33.2589b760@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:32:48 EST Subject: Re: NYC Dates To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I wasn't there at Largo last night, but I bet anything Aimee didn't change the pronouns when she sang lead on M. Penn's No Myfth. I don't mean to prolong the gay thread but she's done this quite a few times. Angel's Never Call, Will She Just Fall Down, The original version of Voices Carry and Do it Again are them. I'm not trying to start anything along the lines of "is Aimee gay" but I just thought I'd note this. Andrea >From bryan@ispec.net Wed Dec 15 23:25:16 1999 Received: from tomail.ispec.net ([198.147.84.21]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA01493 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:25:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from [38.29.89.229] (ip229.los-angeles20.ca.pub-ip.psi.net [38.29.89.229]) by tomail.ispec.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id Y8WLA57S; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:25:10 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:27:25 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: Stipe From: Bryan H Woerner To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0.625318a2.25887b63@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > Freddy Mercury was never really seriously out in his lifetime. > Queen...I wouldn't say they were out. Never out? Um, I intend no offense, but what exactly did you think the name "Queen" meant? > wait. who besides Freddie? i've never heard of that. > p.s when you say 1/2 of Queen was gay - are you referring to Roger Taylor? > i know he fancies garden gnomes...... Yep, Roger Taylor is reportedly bi. The story goes that he and Freddie were lovers in the early days. -- Bryan bryan@ispec.net >From skilroy@earthlink.net Wed Dec 15 23:39:15 1999 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA02044 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:39:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.20.241] (1Cust241.tnt18.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.20.241]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23201; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:38:38 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 00:38:38 -0500 Subject: From Michael Penn's Website From: Spencer Lewis To: Pennlist , Mannlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Read this on Michaelpenn.com: On February 1, 2000, 57 Records and Epic Records proudly present MP4 (Days Since A Lost Time Accident)--the new album by acclaimed singer and songwriter Michael Penn. MP4 features ten new Michael Penn songs including "High Time," "Whole Truth," "Perfect Candidate," "Trampoline," and "Lucky One." With Michael on guitar and bass, the supporting cast includes his longtime keyboards player Patrick Warren; drummer Victor Indrizzo; and background vocalists Aimee Mann, Grant Lee Phillips, and Buddy Judge. Recorded in Los Angeles over a period of three months, MP4 is produced by Michael Penn, except for "Lucky One" which is produced by Brendan O'Brien. Michael will soon make his high-profile debut as a producer for other artists with the release of the long-awaited new album by the Wallflowers. This painstaking craftsman of irresistible pop songs made his solo debut in 1989 with the album March. Successive releases included Free-For-All in 1992; and in 1997, his 57 Records/Epic label debut Resigned. GQ called Michael Penn "an extremely gifted melodist who tosses out more ideas in a single song than most musicians fit into a concert," while People noted that "Penn puts equal emphasis on both confessional content and entertainment value." "I love words, I like rhyming, I love working out the puzzle of saying what I mean melodically," says Michael Penn. "I'm basically writing to help me figure things out. I write about personal relationships and dynamics, the ways that people act and speak. I'm fascinated by patterns that occur in my life and other people's lives." With songs of love and yearning, regret and dreaming, wry observation and compassionate hope, MP4 (Days Since A Lost Time Accident) is Michael Penn's most compelling music to date. Spencer Lewis (Moderator by default) ------- Join the Michael Pennlist at http://www.onelist.com/community/michaelpennlist >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 16 00:51:52 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA14912 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 00:51:51 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.b98131f6 (1759) for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:51:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.b98131f6.2589e5e4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:51:16 EST Subject: Re: From Michael Penn's Website To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I've just tried to join Michael penn's list and can't seem to navagate Onelist. Is there a way to join without going through all the ringamrole on the One list site. Andrea aweiss4338@aol.com >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Thu Dec 16 07:08:46 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f43.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.43]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id HAA11974 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:08:45 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 58068 invoked by uid 0); 16 Dec 1999 13:08:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19991216130826.58067.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.137.53 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 05:08:26 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.137.53] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee & Michael TOGETHER in NYC!! Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 05:08:26 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was reading my Michael Penn Digest (everyone needs to go join! he is as worth our support as Aimee is!) when I realized I left out an important piece of information. I am pretty certain Michael Hausman mentioned this swing of Aimee's (at least in New York) would include Michael Penn. For all you Least Coast Mann brethren who have not had the pleasure of seeing the dynamic duo perform, you are about to get your chance. It actually makes perfect sense, as his new CD release date will coincide quite nicely with those New York dates. We also talked about MAGNOLIA. Michael and Co. saw the finished version for the first time. He said it was a tough sell. He just went on about how dark and depressing it was. Of course, not one to let anyone get me down after an Aimee high, I pointed out that Schindler's List wasn't exactly a "feel good" movie. He waved me off and said that at least Schindlers had an "uplifting" ending (I guess I slept through that part too! I just remember him yammering about he could have saved so many more...) We joked about it not having gun fights & car crashes, and he said it DID have a really big car crash. Hope that isn't going to spoil something. I was all pumped to see MAGNOLIA while in Los Angeles, but I was surprised to find out even though it premiered, it could not be seen until this Friday. By the way, I have never been honked at so many times in my life! Drivers down there give you like a nanosecond to hit warp speed when a light changes!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Scott.Fickle@asphalt-materials.com Thu Dec 16 08:34:14 1999 Received: from hgexas01.asphalt-materials.com (hgexas01.asphalt-materials.com [208.200.241.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA18113 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:34:14 -0600 (CST) Received: by HGEXAS01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:27:52 -0500 Message-ID: <428273F742E6D2119B3500805FEA15CC59D07C@HGEXAS01> From: "Fickle, Scott" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Who Cares? Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:27:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF47D1.A09E3CC8" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF47D1.A09E3CC8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" One more Michael Stipe/Gay message and I am going to have to bail on this message board... Really Folks...WHO CARES? ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF47D1.A09E3CC8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who Cares?

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------_=_NextPart_001_01BF47D1.A09E3CC8-- >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 16 23:44:59 1999 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA10424 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 23:44:58 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.750b50de (1781) for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:44:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.750b50de.258b27b6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:44:22 EST Subject: One more magnolia article To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >From Spin's collumn Exposed, this months issue: Dysfunction Junction: When Meloria Walters first saw PT Andreson's much antisapated Magnolia-in which she plays the wrecked daughter of a dying old man-she was disconcerted. "I've known paul for a long time," says Walters, "and after I saw Magnolia, I thought a grizzly old man had made it." Like Hard Eight and Boogie Nights, Magnolia is a stylish, sprawing study of knotty familial relationships. "It was diffcult but forfilling," Walters says of her role as a idol rich woman who "likes drinking and loves cocane." While the actress did anything Anderson asked, she refused to smoke cigerettes. "Someone like Claudia would be a real smoker," walters explains, "but I don't smoke. And it looks stupid when people who don't know how to smoke try it." Did that make sence to Anderson? "Oh totally," Walters says, "he also had Claudia taking vitamans and drinking soy milk, and that's such a perfect touch. That's Paul's genius." And that's the whole thing. One intersting paragraph. Andrea >From gkomoto@jps.net Fri Dec 17 00:28:36 1999 Received: from smtp6.jps.net (smtp6.jps.net [209.63.224.103]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA16563 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:28:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from jps.net (216-119-15-194.o1.jps.net [216.119.15.194]) by smtp6.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA04373 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:28:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3859D7A2.8AFA620D@jps.net> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:26:42 -0800 From: Greg Komoto Reply-To: gkomoto@jps.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Subject: "Save Me" award nomination; article link; other... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN OK, I'll delurk to pass on some news and links: a. "Save Me" was nominated for a "Golden Satellite" award for Best Original Song. The Golden Satellites are an offshoot press group of the Golden Globes offering an differing view; they are in their 4th year and are announced by the so-called International Press Academy (as opposed to the Foreign Press Association). I have seen this info on two web sites. Other nominated songs: "(I) Get Lost" - Story of Us "Mountain Town" - South Park "Still" - Dogma "When She Loved Me" - Toy Story 2, "World Is Not Enough" "Save Me" The film and various actors were nominated in various categories. One special award for "Best Ensemble" was already granted to "Magnolia" b. the www.ptanderson.com fan site has a bunch of aimee articles posted. Click on the "latest new" for direct links to articles. Some recent articles posted include a great extensive article from the Dallas Observer and the latest Elle. The webmaster also has a great soundtrack page of links to reviews, articles, etc. Perhaps the web site author or some of the writers of the articles are lurking on this list. (The pt anderson fan site does not work well with Netscape I've found). c. "Magnolia" was named movie of the year by the Toronto Critics Association after being left out by more important critics awards like the LAFCA, NYFCC, and BSFC. Greg >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 17 13:14:38 1999 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA12007 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:14:37 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ea271ff (4522) for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:14:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ea271ff.258be57a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:14:02 EST Subject: NY Times Magnolia Review To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Saw the review in today's Times, they offer qualified prase for the film. Bad, thefirst two hours are great, the last terrible. The film starts to unravel with the sing along to Wise Up. To be honest about that, I'm not surprised, as I had a feeling that wouldn't work, too weird, the sing along. As for the rest of the plot, when I see it I'll see what I think fo it. Good, the acting is supurb and that's what they say you should see it for. T. Cruse gets the best review, Julanne Moore and Philip baker hall get some prase too. The full text of the review should be at nytimes.com, you have to s*bscr8ibe to their service, it's free. If it isn't there, or you want hard copy, e-mail me off list and I'll send a copy. Andrea aweiss4338@aol.com >From sharkyd1@yahoo.com Fri Dec 17 13:54:06 1999 Received: from web1704.mail.yahoo.com (web1704.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.215]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id NAA14278 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:54:05 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 27025 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Dec 1999 19:54:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19991217195404.27024.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web1704.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:54:04 PST Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:54:04 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Downey Subject: A good Magnolia Review To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-719885386-945460444=:22991" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-719885386-945460444=:22991 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This one is quite a bit more positive than the NY Times one that Andrea posted. Here are some highlights. I skipped the details we all know about already. Sorry I couldn't find this anywhere on the web, I got it from my local paper, or I'd have posted the URL. ASSOCIATED PRESS by Christy LeMire "It seems impossible that Paul Thomas Anderson could follow up Boogie Nights with a movie as stirring and memorable. But just watch him. Magnolia is overwhelming and easily one of the best films of the year. Yes it's long, clocking in at over 3 hours, and the story meanders. Trying to describe the plot wouldn't do it justice and would steal the surprises in store. Let's just say Magnolia is about people - how their live intersect, how they treat each other and how they cannot escape their pasts, no matter how hard they try...." (She goes on to describe the actors and the characters they play.) "... Keeping these numerous and varried characters in synch with one another is one of the most impressive aspects of Anderson's craft. They follow a pattern of highs and lows - everyone is manic at the same time, everyone is despondent at the same time, everyone reaches a moment of truth at the same time. The film's structure is complicated, yet Anderson makes it look effortless. Completing the films emotional impact is the soundtrack of original songs by Aimee Mann. They will stay with you long after you've risen stiffly from your seat, stretched and staggered in an awestruck daze from the theater." "...It runs 3 hours & 10 min. but it doesn't feel that long, and it's worth seeing more than once to catch some of the nuances you may have missed the first time around." --------------------- Popcorn's on me guys!!!!!!!!! MD np- Magnolia sound track (what did you expect?) --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping. --0-719885386-945460444=:22991 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

This one is quite a bit more positive than the NY Times one that Andrea posted. Here are some highlights. I skipped the details we all know about already. Sorry I couldn't find this anywhere on the web, I got it from my local paper, or I'd have posted the URL.

ASSOCIATED PRESS    by Christy LeMire

"It seems impossible that Paul Thomas Anderson could follow up Boogie Nights with a movie as stirring and memorable. But just watch him. Magnolia is overwhelming and easily one of the best films of the year. Yes it's long, clocking in at over 3 hours, and the story meanders. Trying to describe the plot wouldn't do it justice and would steal the surprises in store. Let's just say Magnolia is about people - how their live intersect, how they treat each other and how they cannot escape their pasts, no matter how hard they try...."

(She goes on to describe the actors and the characters they play.)

"... Keeping these numerous and varried characters in synch with one another is one of the most impressive aspects of Anderson's craft. They follow a pattern of highs and lows - everyone is manic at the same time, everyone is despondent at the same time, everyone reaches a moment of truth at the same time. The film's structure is complicated, yet Anderson makes it look effortless. Completing the films emotional impact is the soundtrack of original songs by Aimee Mann. They will stay with you long after you've risen stiffly from your seat, stretched and staggered in an awestruck daze from the theater."  "...It runs 3 hours & 10 min. but it doesn't feel that long, and it's worth seeing more than once to catch some of the nuances you may have missed the first time around."

--------------------- Popcorn's on me guys!!!!!!!!!

MD   np- Magnolia sound track (what did you expect?)


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--0-719885386-945460444=:22991-- >From CWillman@aol.com Fri Dec 17 13:58:03 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA14453 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:58:03 -0600 (CST) From: CWillman@aol.com Received: from CWillman@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ccd15bc2 (4357) for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:57:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ccd15bc2.258befaa@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:57:30 EST Subject: Re: NY Times Magnolia Review To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/17/99 11:15:33 AM, AWeiss4338@aol.com writes: << The film starts to unravel with the sing along to Wise Up. To be honest about that, I'm not surprised, as I had a feeling that wouldn't work, too weird, the sing along.>> It totally works. Don't believe her! Even some of the people I know who don't like the movie think that's one of the best things in it. The thing is, though I haven't seen it a second time, I suspect it'll work even better on a repeat viewing. The first time, there's the element of "What the hell is Anderson doing?!" as the reality of what's happening sinks in. A second time, it'll probably be easier to just accept it and go with the emotional flow. Kenneth Turan's review in the L.A. Times today is much more high on the movie and also offers Aimee props. >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 17 14:14:43 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA15124 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:14:42 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.e6af13b1 (4405) for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:14:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.e6af13b1.258bf38e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:14:06 EST Subject: Re: NY Times Magnolia Review To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Aimee did get a mention in the Times review, saying her songs were excelent. And now that there's good word that the sing along works, then my oppion maybe should be discared. Andrea >From gkomoto@jps.net Fri Dec 17 16:07:39 1999 Received: from smtp5.jps.net (smtp5.jps.net [209.63.224.55]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA27900 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:07:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from jps.net (webmail.jps.net [209.63.224.19]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA16996 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:07:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Greg Komoto" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: gkomoto@jps.net To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:07:38 GMT Subject: Re: NY Times Magnolia Review +others (some aimee content) X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.3b, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <385ab42a.dd6.0@jps.net> X-User-Info: 132.233.247.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: gkomoto@jps.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN You can read the reviews very handily from any number of movie review hubs like Movie Review Query and Rotten Tomators. Almost all mention Aimee or the songs in a very positive light, even in the negative review. Unfortunately, the Brion score is sometimes criticized. The reviews have been all over the place, but mostly positive. There was a rave review in places like the Wall Street Journal and the Wall Street Journal (and others like the New York Post). Very strong reviews include USA Today, E!, and the aforementioned LA Times. Bad reviews include Jeffrey Lyons, Newsday, Salon and some net critics. You can read some of these reviews at the review sites listed above (they usually link directly to the source web site). Greg >From reverie@surfamerica.net Fri Dec 17 17:16:27 1999 Received: from mail.surfamerica.net (IDENT:root@mail.surfamerica.net [63.65.219.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA02707 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:16:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from surfamerica.net ([63.65.219.80]) by mail.surfamerica.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA00490 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:14:14 -0600 Message-ID: <385AAE72.ACE702EA@surfamerica.net> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:43:15 -0600 From: reverie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Sharing Aimee References: <0.1d7b29f6.2583f09e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN hmm, when it comes to me liking Aimee's music, i could care less how popular she is... or how many ppl thinks she's great. I'm 21 and i listen to whatever i think sounds good... be it metallica, driving and crying, john Philip sousa, granger, chopin, green day, george clinton, prince, red hot chili peppers, Allman brothers, derrick and the dominoes, van morrison, west side story, ygnewie malstorm, they might be giants, beastie boys, or vivaldi... what's my point? good question... oh yeah, no matter what her status in stardom, ill keep listening as long as her music sounds good to me... when it stops, ill stop... sean DMedsker@aol.com wrote: > (My apologies, this wound up being longer than I intended) > > << But.... It's just that I'd hate 'sharing' her with the world, and being > just > another fan among gazillions who rush to buy her newest record. >> > > Ah, and here our hypocrisy is laid out before us. > > The fact is, any real fan of music is also a snob on some level, especially > us. And we like being snobs. It makes us better than the general buying > public, in our own minds. But here's some food for thought: Do you think fans > of Richard Thompson in the '80s got together and complained about bands like > The Thompson Twins, a-ha and Duran Duran (or Til Tuesday, irony of ironies) > selling more records than Thompson did? Probably. Were they missing the > point? Definitely. What's my point, exactly? This: > > If Aimee, by some brilliant mistake, as one person put it, became incredibly > successful, half of this list would immediately start complaining about the > troglodyte fans who buy her records but don't really "get" her. We wouldn't > be happy that she was selling records. We'd be offended because the masses > would be in effect lowering our standards. A good fraction of us, I would > wager, would stop listening to Aimee altogether, because the thrill of having > her to ourselves would be gone, and you'd start looking for the next artist > just off the radar. "My work here is done," so to speak. > > We can't have it both ways. She either sells 100,000 copies of each record > (or less) and we adore her, or she becomes a star and we leave her behind. > How many people on this list don't quite like Sarah McLachlan as much as you > used to? Or the Barenaked Ladies? That's what awaits Aimee if she breaks > through. But I wouldn't worry too much. After all, Elliott Smith didn't > exactly set sales records after his Oscar nod. > > DAM >From markm@pobox.com Fri Dec 17 17:21:03 1999 Received: from cerise.propagation.net (cerise.propagation.net [216.221.160.16]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA02898 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:21:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from bigdog (dyn1-tnt1-206.dayton.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.200.206]) by cerise.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10684 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:20:54 -0600 Message-ID: <003801bf48e5$87cf8ca0$6564a8c0@ameritech.net> From: "Mark Morrow" To: Subject: MSNBC's Magnolia Review Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:22:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Very positive review of "Magnolia" on MSNBC. There's a slight mention of Jon Brion; however, no mention of Aimee. Looks like a great movie to be associated with. It looks like 2000 is going to be Aimee's year. YIPPEE! Mark Morrow - Dayton Ohio USA from: http://www.msnbc.com/news/347047.asp A DARK FLOWER BLOOMS IN HOLLYWOOD By Bob Campbell NEWHOUSE NEWS SERVICE Dec. 16 - First the news. "Magnolia" is magnificent. It's the year's most impressive feat of American moviemaking. Now, the advisory. Paul Thomas Anderson's three-hour megamovie is no pale and soothing flower. Its middle-class, white Los Angeles is a garden overgrown by jungle and rocked by Force 10 gales. Consider one extraordinary sequence in this extraordinary film. On a moody afternoon, the camera discovers the near-dozen chief characters chiming in on the same (original) song in a sort of tag-team harmony. Each is alone and mostly unaware of the others' existence. The movie wonders whether this signifies meaningful human linkage or just an absurd and amusing coincidence. Another un-Hollywoodish angle is that two of these solitary singers are dying, a third is busy killing herself, a fourth is coming apart on cocaine and a fifth is embarked on a suicidal, life-transforming crime. The stakes are high, the situations extreme, the humor wild and desperate. Next to "Magnolia," "American Beauty" is a bouncy bedroom comedy. The sprawl of Los Angeles spawns ensemble pieces about random connections and invisible links. "Magnolia" sprouts from the same ground as Lawrence Kasdan's mild "Grand Canyon," Alan Rudolph's bittersweet "Choose Me" and Robert Altman's bruising "Short Cuts." NODS TO ALTMAN, SCORSESE Anderson's nods to master Altman include Julianne Moore ("Short Cuts") and Altman regulars Henry Gibson and Michael Murphy (both of "Nashville"). Sad-eyed, hopeful policeman Jim Kurring (John C. Reilly) prowls among the various plots like an angelic alter ego of Tim Robbins' nihilist motorcycle cop in "Short Cuts." Dark and furious as "Magnolia" may be, it pays as much respect to compassion and forgiveness as it does to rage and regret. Anderson's technique evokes not Altman's let-it-breathe storytelling but the virtuoso Total Cinema attack of Martin Scorsese. A wraparound song track, percussive editing, cadenced dialogue, flying camerawork and ever-escalating emotional voltage grip the audience in an all-or-nothing embrace. FLAWLESS ENSEMBLE CAST The interaction of chance and destiny, of whim and character is introduced by way of a prologue more dazzling than most entire movies and embodied in a dozen incandescently individualized characters. A flawless ensemble cast, from superstar Tom Cruise to unknown April Grace, plays in symphonic counterpoint. A leather-vested Cruise discharges all his laser-eyed ferocity into the high-risk role of professional woman-hater Frank T.J. Mackey, whose crowded men's seminars expand on his best seller "Seduce and Destroy." As a deceptively sympathetic TV interviewer (Grace) pricks at Frank's armor of contempt, a gentle male nurse (Philip Seymour Hoffman) strives to reach him with news of his estranged dad "Big Earl" (a harrowing deathbed turn by Jason Robards Jr.). Big Earl's gorgeous and guilt-crazed young wife Linda (Julianne Moore) is in flight from life and herself. Elsewhere in the San Fernando Valley of death, a beloved TV host (Philip Baker Hall) and his too-loyal wife (Melinda Dillon) are reeling from bad medical news and the collapse of family fictions. In a shadowy, rain-swept bungalow, their raw-nerved daughter Claudia (Melora Walters) finds herself romanced by Reilly's sentimental cop in the midst of a roaring cocaine binge. SHAMEFUL LOVE "Now that I've met you," this self-despising darling pleads helplessly, "would you object to never seeing me again?" Meanwhile fallen child celebrity "Quiz Kid Donnie" (William H. Macy) spills out his shameful love for a beefy, laughing bartender, whose waspish lover (Gibson) cryptically observes: "It's a mistake to confuse children with angels." No, cries Quiz Kid Donnie passionately, it is not. His own childhood was lost on Hall's long-running game show, where little kids are pitted against adults. Brainy, sensitive 10-year-old Stanley Spector (Jeremy Blackman) is that show's latest sacrificial lamb. Little Stanley, Hoffman's male nurse and Reilly's policeman struggle toward the light as the L.A. skies darken with a storm of truly biblical grandeur. Cameraman Robert Elswit, editor Dylan Tichnor and composer Jon Brion hone Anderson's diamond-sharp vision. One unstated but amply demonstrated subtheme is that those who are robbed - of love or money or respect - are destined to steal the same from others. The impossible, paradoxical trick is to steal back one's own innocence. "American Beauty" was all clever staging. "Magnolia" is real, full-tilt filmmaking, seducing our souls and nervous systems with a sensory, kinesthetic rush. Its three hours pass like a single breaking wave. LIMITATIONS "Magnolia" does have limitations. The underlying ideas are fairly conventional, the characters narrowly if sharply drawn. Unalleviated high drama can seem just as artificial as its pop opposite, and Anderson shares Altman's habit of piling on one death too many. Love it, hate it. See it. Without ever mentioning the turn of the millennium, "Magnolia" observes the end and beginning of worlds. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- © 1999 Newhouse News Service >From Salt5@aol.com Fri Dec 17 21:43:43 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA00368 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:43:42 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.78a20c4a (3865); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:43:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.78a20c4a.258c5ccb@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:43:07 EST Subject: Who Da Man? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm still hanging out at the Farmer's Market here in Los Angeles for a couple of days but I wanted to delurk for a minute to tug on some of the latest Aimee threads. First, Paul Barras. I finally got to meet Paul after a long and happy association with him here on the list. No question, this guy is the alpha-fan. I won't embarrass him with more praise but I'd like to point out that Aimee is lucky to have a fan like Paul. He works for Aimee's best interests much as a white-hat special-interest lobbyist would. I won't go into the circumstances involved but I had occasion to witness Paul's essential decency in other ways as well. All in all, it was an interesting evening spent with an interesting guy. Oh, and by the way, Aimee played a wonderful, compact set with another (!) new keyboardist. Also in the band, Buddy, Joe the Realtor on bass and more, Michael Hausman on drums and percussion and perennial Bachelor of the Week Michael Paines on violin. Michael Paines got into a very weird, extended thing with Michael Penn and Aimee as his Mother and Father figures and it resulted in a real belly laugh from Aimee. I know that doesn't sound very flattering... Aimee guffawed. No, that's not much better, is it? See the picture of Aimee in Time to get a look at what I mean. I've seen her laugh before, but lately, I've seen her REALLY laugh! She's the toast of Hollywood right now and another, well-deserved "fifteen minutes" of Fame here in Los Angeles must be sweet indeed. It's thrilling to see "Magnolia" advertised everywhere and glowingly reviewed too. I plan to see "Magnolia" tomorrow morning at the Hollywood Galaxy as part of a three theater "limited engagement". As a final note to this thread: Paul mentioned in his post that I didn't have anything good to say about Michael Penn. He was kidding, I promise you. Michael's set was great and he's a major talent. "The Whole Truth" has a riveting chorus and I think that MP may well find a larger audience with MP4. When you see him on stage with Aimee, it's hard not to smile. They don't play kissy-face in front of the audience but the sparks fly every time they look at each other. I could write through Christmas and still not even begin to convey how very fucking cool it is to spend an evening at Largo in the company of these folks. Every face you see has a huge grin because we all know that the search for the "scene" is over, Largo on Tuesday nights is where you should have been at the turn of the century. Some future Kerouac or Ginsburg will return to these shows in years to come and make much of what was. Until then, watching the show, John p.s. Paul and I played a long game of "You Da Fan, Man" the other night. We finally agreed to call it a draw because it's obvious that Michael Penn is the number one Aimee Mann fan. Number two fan status goes to Michael Hausman. Number three is a draw between Chris Willman, Mark Flanagan and Paul Thomas Anderson. p.p.s. There was an interesting face session after the show on Tuesday night. Seated across the table from me were Michael Hausman, Milan Petrovich (Sauniere, he of the wonderful Aimee Mann in Print site!) and Paul (the Sonichawk). We gobbled down everything Michael had to say but Paul was amazing, Mike freaking Wallace on behalf of the Mann-List. Great Caesar's Ghost! p.p.p.s. Paul told me about a screenplay that he's working on (Aren't we all?) and I think it had real promise. It had something to do with a beautiful singer and how her biggest fan gets rid of her husband and then takes his place. Get Matt Damon on the phone! >From Kenableken@aol.com Fri Dec 17 23:00:58 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA03074 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:00:57 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ac52490b (4196) for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:00:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ac52490b.258c6ee4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:00:20 EST Subject: Magnolia: The Movie To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I just got back from the movie version of the Magnolia Soundtrack. I liked it, the acting was brilliant, but it did wander a bit much and Anderson always seemed to be cutting away from scenes just as something might actually, finally happen. And yet, the pieces are brilliant and moving, and the sing-along is not nearly as odd as some people have made it out to be. I was also surprised at how little of Aimee's songs are in it. "One" starts things off, then Momentum pops up, "Driving Sideways" and "Build that Wall" are spliced together and played way in the background for about 30 seconds. Then there's the "Wise Up" singalong, and "Save Me" at the end. "You Do" doesn't seem to appear at all. But the weird secret bonus track from "Whatever" is used in a flashback. Ok, I guess that is a lot of music from one artist, but I like those other songs too! And Jon Brion's score was great, I thought, and deserves more than just that one little snippet at the end of the album. ken F. >From skilroy@earthlink.net Fri Dec 17 23:20:08 1999 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA04489 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:20:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.20.177] (1Cust177.tnt18.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.20.177]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12986; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:19:59 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:19:53 -0500 Subject: Re: coming to a location near you?! From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist CC: Paul Barras Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19991215130109.53001.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN No bad words for Michael please. No Philadelphia dates? Stop!!! Oh well, I travelled to NYC the last time, I guess I'll do it again. Paul, make sure you post any dates to Pennlist also. sl >From stevendj@uswest.net Sat Dec 18 00:45:04 1999 Received: from mplspop1.mpls.uswest.net (mplspop1.mpls.uswest.net [204.147.80.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id AAA08492 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:45:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 14807 invoked by alias); 18 Dec 1999 06:44:33 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 14730 invoked by uid 0); 18 Dec 1999 06:44:27 -0000 Received: from dialupv83.mpls.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (209.180.31.83) by mplspop1.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 18 Dec 1999 06:44:27 -0000 Message-ID: <385B2D54.70CE0FC4@uswest.net> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:44:49 -0600 From: StevenDJ Reply-To: stevendj@uswest.net Organization: ?...yeah, sometimes. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Salon:Magnolia review! References: <000001bf41cc$1525dd00$75fe2dce@winklovic> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey doods and ladies...here is the review of Magnolia from the Salon site... Hail Aimee! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Even with a stellar cast, director Paul Thomas Anderson's "Boogie Nights" follow-up flounders without a punchline. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Charles Taylor Dec. 17, 1999 | There's no time as perilous for a young filmmaker as after a big gamble has paid off. New directors who've scored risky critical and commercial hits often want to take bigger risks -- to push themselves, to prove it wasn't a fluke -- and often, they have the power to do so. But many times their judgment is off. The sheer relief of no longer being unproven, and thus not having to justify every instinct to the moneymen, often leads filmmakers to concepts that haven't been thought out, or that have been gestating so long they've become obvious, a bit paltry. "Magnolia," Paul Thomas Anderson's follow-up to "Boogie Nights," is both obvious and oblique, banal and still locked up inside his head. An attempt to outdo the hit "Boogie Nights" in both length and scope, complete with a climactic Biblical apocalyptic event, Anderson's third film is a multi-character drama that follows a group of disparate people in the San Fernando Valley over the course of 24 hours. During much of its three hours and 10 minutes, "Magnolia" leaps from thread to thread with only the most tenuous connections discernible. By the time a character remarks, sometime in the third hour, "That's a long way to go with no punchline," you're inclined to agree. Eventually the punchline comes, and you may find yourself wishing it didn't. "You have to be nicer to me," says one character to another toward the movie's end, and that's about what "Magnolia" comes down to. By itself, that's not fatal. There are plenty of great movies that, were they reduced to their "meanings," might seem unaccountably banal. But the emotional experience of great movies, of great art, period, overwhelms mere meanings. (Want a seasonal example? Reread "A Christmas Carol.") By the close of "Magnolia," you're painfully aware of how everything in the movie is put at the service of Anderson's trite message. Both "Boogie Nights" and "Hard Eight" (Anderson's still mostly unseen debut that is, in some ways, his best film) could be said to be about the families we choose for ourselves. "Magnolia" is about the families we're stuck with. Half the characters here are neglectful parents like Earl Partridge (Jason Robards), a TV producer dying of cancer who for years hasn't seen his son Frank (Tom Cruise) -- an Anthony Robbins-like infomercial guru selling male sexual power -- or Jimmy Gator (Philip Baker Hall), the longtime host of a kids' game show who can't talk to his own daughter, the coked-out recluse Claudia (Melora Walters). The other half are neglected children like whiz kid Stanley Spector (Jeremy Blackman) who's the long-running champ on Jimmy Gator's show but, off-camera, an albatross to his own father, or Stanley's spiritual predecessor, Donnie Smith (William H. Macy), a former contestant on the show whose fame made his parents rich but whose adult life has been rudderless. The characters link up either personally or thematically, and it takes awhile to sort out their relationships. There are also people who, by occupation or temperament or both, are caregivers, like Jim Curring (John C. Reilly), an almost comically decent cop who meets Claudia on a routine call and falls in love with her; or Phil Parma (Philip Seymour Hoffman), the hospice worker who tries to put Earl back in touch with his long-lost son. Even the marriages here carry suggestions of parent-child relationships, not just in the disparity in ages between Earl and his young wife Linda (Julianne Moore), who's coming apart as she finds she has fallen in love with her husband whom she married for money, but in the way that Jimmy's wife Rose (Melinda Dillon, back on the screen after a much too long absence), nurses him through illness with a tender solicitude. Even the minor incidents, an anecdote that opens the film and the first call we see the cop Jim Kurring respond to, have to do with the theme of parents and children. "Magnolia" doesn't feature as many characters as "Boogie Nights" did, and its subject is on a more intimate scale than the earlier film's portrait of the porn industry's golden era. But despite fewer characters and more time to get to know them, none of the characters in "Magnolia" feel as vividly imagined as the porn stars and filmmakers and hangers-on of "Boogie Nights." There are appetizing bits, like the two scenes between Jason Robards' Earl and Philip Seymour Hoffman's Phil. Predictably, Robards is masterly at the physical details of a dying man's exertions and exhalations. Beyond that, he taps the self-reproachful bitterness in Earl's accounting for his life. There's a thrill in seeing two generations of fine actors get a chance to act together. But how can you cast Robards and Moore as husband and wife and not give them any dialogue with each other? How can you cast Jason Robards, along with Brando probably the greatest living American actor, and keep him comatose in bed for a three-hour-plus movie -- even if he is playing a dying man? Anderson obviously adores actors, and the best moments of "Magnolia" are actors' moments. Many of those belong to Philip Seymour Hoffman, whose hospice worker has a pained gentleness, and John C. Reilly, who pulls off the nearly impossible feat of making a character's decency funny without making him seem like a fool. But Anderson's touch with the actors feels off here. As Claudia, Melora Walters has to be a coke-induced whirligig (but a washed-out whirligig) for the duration of the movie and she wears out her welcome before we get to know anything about her. Julianne Moore has it even worse. In an interview with Time Out New York, Moore said, "I found the part [of Linda] very arduous. It's really very difficult to try to find a way to make you understand her, because she doesn't understand herself. She isn't what she appears to be, she isn't what she wants to be. She's at a place of real turbulence." That may be a polite way of saying that the role isn't really written. Anderson requires Moore to be kept in a state of hysteria as Linda races from shrink to lawyer to pharmacist, never getting far enough from her own guilt over her dying husband. She's startling, but then Moore often is. If there's a flaw to her acting, it's that she's so frighteningly smart that sometimes her intelligence projects through the roles themselves -- what we perceive are Moore's thought processes instead of her character's. (That turns out to be a blessing in her current performance in "The End of the Affair.") In "Magnolia," when Anderson clears enough space to allow Moore to focus Linda's desperation, as she does in the scene where she castigates a pair of chemists who have looked askance at the painkiller prescriptions she is filling for Earl, she hones the character's grief, rage and self-hatred to a diamond-hard point. But the attention and energy that Anderson should have paid to delineating that character, and to fleshing out the others, he seems to have lavished on the scenes with Tom Cruise as Frank Mackey conducting the seminars for his inflated how-to-pick-up-girls system called "Seduce and Destroy." Anderson, who was contacted by Cruise after "Boogie Nights" and told that the actor wanted to work with him, is clearly thrilled to have such a big star in his movie. And it speaks well for Cruise's taste that he wanted to work with Anderson. The scenes he's been given -- big flashy monologues where Frank exhorts his followers to "worship the cock and tame the cunt," and a long encounter with a TV reporter who's determined to unlock the secrets of his past -- allow Cruise to expend his performer's energy. But he doesn't have an actor's sensibility to match, and it becomes painfully obvious when he has to play a painful confrontation scene with Robards. He relies on flash when he has to dig down into himself. Part of the problem with "Magnolia" can be blamed on Anderson's structure. Using Aimee Mann's songs to comment on and counterpoint the action, Anderson has conceived of "Magnolia" as something like a sonata on the theme of past sins and the limits of forgiveness as played out among parents and children. The technique is very sophisticated, with Anderson smoothly cutting from story to story. It's also very frustrating; the intercutting only makes it more obvious that we aren't getting beneath the surface of these people. One of the biggest barriers of all is the music itself. When Mann's songs aren't playing, Jon Brion's score is, and I don't think I've ever heard a more distracting use of music in a movie. It's wall-to-wall music, used in a manner that often appears to be heading the action towards some kind of climax which never arrives. If anything can be said for the structure, it's that it delays the revelation of how obvious and mushy Anderson's message is. "Boogie Nights" was big and flawed, particularly in the violent second half's borrowings from Scorsese and Tarantino, but the most extraneous out-of-place scenes were the explosive arguments between Mark Wahlberg's porn-stud-to-be Eddie and his mother (Joanna Gleason). Those scenes could have been the taking-off point for "Magnolia." I didn't know what those scenes were doing in "Boogie Nights" until I heard Anderson in interviews talking about his stormy relationship with his own mother. And when you know that Anderson's father Ernie was the Cleveland horror-movie host known as Ghoulardi, the fathers in "Magnolia" who work in TV enforce the autobiographical connection. But part of the letdown of "Magnolia" is that, in working out what may be personal issues on parent-child conflicts, Anderson has come up with something that's rather shockingly less sophisticated than "Boogie Nights'" depiction of pornographers as extended surrogate family. The critics who didn't dig "Boogie Nights" specifically rejected that aspect of the movie. They seemed to want the easy reassurances offered to them by every TV crime drama still depicting the porn business as nothing but a chamber of horrors. In his depiction of real families in "Magnolia," Anderson has fallen back on pop-psych banalities about abandonment and the inner child. This is a movie that climaxes with an act of God which acts as a kind of gateway to healing and forgiveness, and which (if I read it correctly) appears to suggest that a child has the gift of prophecy. When you hear a character say "It's a mistake to confuse children with angels," you realize that, on some basic level, Anderson is refuting that statement. He wants us to see children as innocents, and adults as nothing more than the protective shells of those damaged children. The movie's revelations of traumas and betrayals feel as if they spring out of something very personal for Anderson. But the revelations that parents aren't perfect because they act like human beings seems like the kind of thing a filmmaker of his sophistication should have grasped long ago. "Magnolia" is the sort of bad film that's clearly the misstep of a very talented filmmaker. At times, as in the jokey grimness of the prologue or a dumb crack about Jimmy Gator being a family man while we see him screwing a young woman in his office, Anderson gives into a smirky cynical smartass tone that's beneath his talents. He's a director who puts his faith in his actors to carry out every good and bad idea he has. And while the film awkwardly juggles realism and stylization, as usual Anderson's physical settings are rendered with hard specificity. As shot by Robert Elswit, "Magnolia" makes you feel like you might be able to drive down the San Fernando Valley streets we see and find every bus stop and convenience store. For all the weak patches of "Magnolia," Anderson is capable of doing things that knock you flat, like the scene where the characters are linked by his use of Aimee Mann's song "Wise Up," a moment that suggests a collaboration between Jacques Demy and Robert Altman. The almost certain commercial failure of "Magnolia" could send Anderson back to something on the scale of "Hard Eight," which wouldn't be bad for him. The strict discipline of that movie didn't allow him to swing, didn't make way for the wild jags of humor and wealth of incident that kept your eyes popping at "Boogie Nights." But the ambition of "Boogie Nights" has become a sprawl in "Magnolia." Anderson needs to find a way to integrate his wilder impulses with a more stringent discipline. "Magnolia" is his bid at an adult movie after the adolescent sideshow of "Boogie Nights," but it feels appreciably less grown up. Anderson was better off dealing with what goes into the mouths of babes than what comes out of them. salon.com | Dec. 17, 1999 - - - - - - - - - - - - About the writer Charles Taylor is a Salon contributing writer. >From stevendj@uswest.net Sat Dec 18 01:12:44 1999 Received: from mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net (mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net [204.147.80.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id BAA09466 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:12:43 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 3860 invoked by alias); 18 Dec 1999 07:12:12 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 3820 invoked by uid 0); 18 Dec 1999 07:12:10 -0000 Received: from dialupv83.mpls.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (209.180.31.83) by pop.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 18 Dec 1999 07:12:10 -0000 Message-ID: <385B33DB.B6A247C4@uswest.net> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:12:32 -0600 From: StevenDJ Reply-To: stevendj@uswest.net Organization: ?...yeah, sometimes. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT: YOUR Y2K "horror"-scope! References: <000001bf41cc$1525dd00$75fe2dce@winklovic> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN As Johnny Mellencamp once said...Check it out! By the by...this Salon site has lots of cool stuff. LOTS of talented writers of our time. LOTS of good and entertaining reading! And no, I don't have any stock in it...(wish I did). So, after you're done reading your scope, check out the rest of the site. It is HUGE!!! OK...per ya'lls request...which I can hear silently screaming...I'll go back to lurkage mode...for now... Umm...thanks again for your ne'er do well, time induced crunched factors... Steven Omnipotent Master Productions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YOUR Y2K "horror"-scope: http://www.salon.com/tech/geek/1999/12/18/millennium/index.html >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Sat Dec 18 01:41:06 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f49.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.49]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id BAA09920 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:41:05 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 60589 invoked by uid 0); 18 Dec 1999 07:40:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19991218074034.60588.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.132.162 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:40:34 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.132.162] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Who Da Man? Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:40:34 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN LOL! There is no question that Salt has nothing but respect for Mr. Penn, PROFESSIONALLY, but when he said something about someone whipping "his scrawny little butt" and Aimee liking "geeky" men, I sensed a little, shall I say, ENVY!! He gives me way too much credit, but thanks. I am more like Joan Rivers than Mike Wallace! Hey, it's more like, "can we talk" because I want the scoop. Speaking of Joan, if she hassles Aimee during her pre-oscar show about ANYTHING, there will be more than one scrawny butt in jeopardy!! Since, by virtue of his nomination, P.T. Anderson is now a member of the screenwriting branch of the academy, he needs to sponsor Aimee for membership to the music branch. Of course, if she is nominated, she becomes an automatic card carrying member, and boy do they need people who can recognize genuis in the voting body. (I wonder which of the five original song nominees he will vote for should the music branch see fit to honor Aimee?) I think she's also got Julianne Moore, Tom Cruise, and William Macy's votes locked up if she makes it past the nomination process. Finally, our little panel discussion after the Largo show was, glaringly, sans Aimee. Now, THAT would have been a true dream--sitting around discussing MAGNOLIA and oscar buzz with Aimee Freaking Mann!! And YES, Largo is THE place I want to spend my last moments on Earth!! BTW, I am not really writing a screenplay about Aimee leaving her husband for...uhm a fan. Now, one may surface, but it will be adapted from my tell all autobiography! >From: Salt5@aol.com >Subject: Who Da Man? >Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:43:07 EST > >Paul mentioned in his post that I didn't have anything good to say about >Michael Penn. He was kidding, I promise you. Michael's set was great and >he's >a major talent. >p.p.s. There was an interesting face session after the show on Tuesday >night. >Seated across the table from me were Michael Hausman, Milan Petrovich >(Sauniere, he of the wonderful Aimee Mann in Print site!) and Paul (the >Sonichawk). We gobbled down everything Michael had to say but Paul was >amazing, Mike freaking Wallace on behalf of the Mann-List. Great Caesar's >Ghost! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Sat Dec 18 02:07:44 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f24.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.24]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id CAA10151 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 02:07:43 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 72999 invoked by uid 0); 18 Dec 1999 08:07:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19991218080713.72998.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.132.162 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:07:13 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.132.162] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: here it is Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:07:13 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I first need to request that Salt5 and Milan help me out, because I can't remember the venue in New York where Aimee and Michael will perform five shows the first week of February. If I recall, they were all at the same club. Aimee will be at the Showbox in Seattle on January 29th. She will be appearing at the Aladdin in Portland the night before that, January 28. The venue for San Fran will be BIMBO'S and Michael wasn't sure if it was the 26th or 27th. New Yorkers (Philly fans and all the tri-state area as well) block out the entire first 10 days of February. By the way, Aimee is KILLING me coming to Seattle on SuperBowl weekend!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From jase@iaw.on.ca Sat Dec 18 10:54:46 1999 Received: from mrzip.cc.utexas.edu (mrzip.cc.utexas.edu [128.83.217.16]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA15242 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:54:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from iaw.on.ca (IDENT:root@canal.iaw.on.ca [209.5.112.33]) by mrzip.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1/mrzip.mc-1.29) with SMTP id KAA08650 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:54:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from jase.iaw.on.ca(src addr [209.5.117.36]) (485 bytes) by iaw.on.ca via sendmail with P\:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:53:18 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1998-Dec-27) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991218165240.0072b2e4@iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:52:40 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: Test -- please ignore Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >From stevendj@uswest.net Sat Dec 18 13:07:42 1999 Received: from mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net (mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net [204.147.80.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id NAA22395 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:07:41 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 15134 invoked by alias); 18 Dec 1999 19:07:09 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 15060 invoked by uid 0); 18 Dec 1999 19:07:06 -0000 Received: from dialupdd217.mpls.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (216.160.13.217) by pop.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 18 Dec 1999 19:07:06 -0000 Message-ID: <385BDB6D.D1DF4E12@uswest.net> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:07:28 -0600 From: StevenDJ Reply-To: stevendj@uswest.net Organization: ?...yeah, sometimes. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: OT?:"Mixed" Magnolia reviews... References: <000001bf41cc$1525dd00$75fe2dce@winklovic> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN ...from the Drudge website...: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ REVIEWS FOR MAGNOLIA POLARIZED MAGNOLIA -- Paul Thomas Anderson's three hour long, much anticipated follow-up to BOOGIE NIGHTS -- arrives in theaters on Friday, and according to publishing sources, reviews set for publication are widely mixed. NEW YORK TIMES' retiring film critic Janet Maslin describes the film as "bound for glory" until a moment two-thirds through the film. At that point, "MAGNOLIA begins to self-destruct spectacularly. It's astonishing to see a film begin this brilliantly only to torpedo itself in its final hour." On the other coast, at the other end of the review spectrum, LOS ANGELES DAILY NEWS cinema reviewer Bob Strauss declares MAGNOLIA "an exuberant outburst of creative genius and lavish emotionalism." In MAGNOLIA, Strauss has seen God. He describes the film as "the only true end-of-the-millennium masterpiece, an achievement that will be hard to match for many years to come -- and whose influence should rightly be felt well into the next century." The ensemble piece starring Jason Robards, Tom Cruise, Julianne Moore, William H. Macy and five other principals is set in modern day San Fernando valley and covers a 24-hour period. LOS ANGELES TIMES film critic Kenneth Turan, like Maslin, tempers his exhuberance over what could have been a masterpiece: "Exciting as MAGNOLIA can be to watch, it wouldn't be fair to the writer-director and his considerable potential to call it completely successful. Some of the film's emotional payoffs are predictable and less than profound, some revelations are not that revealing, and we don't connect with all of "MAGNOLIA's' characters as much as might be hoped. Still, it's an impressive piece of work with some fine acting that makes holding our interest for three-plus hours seem easy." AP critic Christy Lemire calls MAGNOLIA "overwhelming and easily one of the best films of the year." And NEWHOUSE NEWS SERVICE'S Bob Campbell calls it "the year's most impressive feat of American moviemaking." >From Xmarty@aol.com Sat Dec 18 15:14:38 1999 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA05203 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 15:14:37 -0600 (CST) From: Xmarty@aol.com Received: from Xmarty@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.eaa3a3d (4010) for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 16:13:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.eaa3a3d.258d5316@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 16:13:58 EST Subject: WSJ Review To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Don't know if anyone posted this yet, but Joe Morgenstern reviewed Magnolia in Friday's Wall Street Journal. I didn't read the review yet (I never do before I see any movies....reviews tend give away too much plot and soil my appreciation of films). But I did a quick glance for mention of Aimee, and found the following: "Magnolia relies on music as much as the spoken word-sometimes to compete with, or even defeat, the characters' best efforts to make their words heard." ...."This isn't sadistic mixing, but an evocation of the mad jangle that assaults us in everyday life. For the most part, though, the soundtrack uses the hauntingly beautiful songs of the folk-pop artist Aimee Mann as commentary or, indeed, as basic text; Mr. Anderson has credidted those songs with inspiring his screenplay." By the way, I did cheat and read the final sentence of the review: "By doing good in a big way, Paul Thomas Anderson has made the best movie of the year." So I guess the reviewer liked the movie! >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Sat Dec 18 19:56:40 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f85.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.85]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id TAA29145 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 19:56:39 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 44642 invoked by uid 0); 19 Dec 1999 01:56:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19991219015609.44641.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.137.94 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 17:56:09 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.137.94] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: another mixed review Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 17:56:09 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN By Tor Thorsen Paul Thomas Anderson is undoubtedly one of the most talented filmmakers working today. He has an ear for dialogue. He has an eye for cinematography. He has dramatic vision. However, his latest film proves that Hollywood's wunderkind is still lacking something critical: the will to edit himself. Running for an often-sluggish three hours, Magnolia takes the small-scale suffering of the human condition and paints it onto an oversized canvas. Sporting much of the poignant reflection of Anderson's debut Hard Eight, this unnecessarily lengthy epic should please the director's fans, but will disappoint those hankering for the affable energy of Boogie Nights. After an amusing but unrelated prologue about bizarre "accidents of chance," Anderson introduces Magnolia's nine main characters in a flurry of bravura sequences. We meet Earl Partridge (Jason Robards), a television mogul dying of cancer, his hysterical trophy wife Linda (Julianne Moore), and kindhearted nurse Phil (Philip Seymour Hoffman). Then there's Jimmy Gator (Hard Eight star Philip Baker Hall), the gregarious host of What Do Kids Know? a long-running game show where child prodigies answer impossibly hard questions ("say the next line of this opera in its original language!"). Stanley Spector (Jeremy Blackman) is a current contestant who's on the verge of breaking the show's winning streak record, while "Whiz Kid" Donnie Smith (William H. Macy) is a grown-up, washed-up former Kids sensation who inexplicably longs to get braces. We also get to know all-too-decent LAPD patrolman Jim Kurring (John C. Reilly) and desperate addict Claudia (Melora Walters). Finally, there's motivational speaker Frank T. J. Mackey (Tom Cruise), a macho Tony Robbins/Howard Stern hybrid who promises to turn average Joes into Casanovas with his self-help seminar "Seduce and Destroy." Unfortunately, Magnolia's remaining 150 minutes never recapture the energy of its rapid-fire opening. As Robert Altman did in Short Cuts, Anderson takes his time exploring his characters' interlocking relationships, occasionally even showing causal links between them at a single moment (they all watch the same show, they all sing the same song, etc.). But while the bizarre events of the preface held out the promise of Kieslowskian synchronicity, most of the story's revelations — save the biblical plague finale — are fairly pedestrian (Frank and Claudia are Earl and Jimmy's respective estranged children; Jimmy, Linda, and Earl are all wracked by guilt from past infidelities, etc.). Even worse, many scenes feel elliptical, with lines and shots often repeated twice for emphasis, or pointless, such as the various nonsensical ramblings of Macy's lovestruck loser and a murder subplot that goes nowhere. Despite these shortcomings, Anderson again crafts many moments of compelling drama through his cast's fine performances and his own keen observation of painful reality. Waters and Reilly are touching as two lonely hearts who form the ultimate odd couple — a cussin' cokehead and a cop who winces when he hears "damn." Newcomer Blackman impresses as an exploited child who uses his overfull bladder to rebel against his domineering father. Hoffman and Moore have excellent if all too brief turns, while Robard's haunting soliloquy about a dying man's regrets stays with you long after you leave the theater. (Anderson also tips his hat to Altman by featuring Nashville star Henry Gibson as a deliciously acid-tongued barfly.) However, the real standout of Magnolia's cast is Tom Cruise, as the swaggering, testosterone-steeped Mackey. Constantly bellowing his mantra "Respect the c*ck!" Cruise turns what could've been a caricature of manliness into the Zen master of sleaze, teaching lessons like "How to Turn Your 'Friend' into a Sperm Receptacle" and "How to Fake You're a Nice Guy" with impassioned conviction. It's the performance of a lifetime, though will likely be too foul-mouthed to win over the Academy. Magnolia features many more scenes of inspired humor and unflinching realism. Sadly, these brilliant moments are too often lost in the film's narrative jumble. Had Anderson been able to snip some of his beloved footage, he could've made this near-miss into a masterpiece. As it stands, Magnolia is a collection of melodramatic diamonds lost in the rough of a director's self-indulgence. Anderson would be well-advised to heed the words of Philip Baker Hall's tortured emcee, "Sometimes you make mistakes. Hopefully next time, you'll know better." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From ElizaS33@aol.com Sat Dec 18 21:11:37 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA01622 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 21:11:37 -0600 (CST) From: ElizaS33@aol.com Received: from ElizaS33@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.b995cc9f (4339) for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:11:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.b995cc9f.258da6c6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:11:02 EST Subject: Magnolia To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN No mixed reviews here... the main squeeze and I out-and-out loved it. I thought "Boogie Nights" suffered more than "Magnolia" did from the lack of an editor. That one, to me, *felt* three hours long. This one, I'd have gone right back for a second screening. In fact, we will, although perhaps not today. I don't want to give anything away plotwise that hasn't been spilled already. But I will say that playing the spot-people-you-know game will be fun for Largo regulars... Elizabeth >From Salt5@aol.com Sun Dec 19 02:48:26 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id CAA14207 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 02:48:26 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.6b1b13d7 (4595); Sun, 19 Dec 1999 03:47:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6b1b13d7.258df5b5@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 03:47:49 EST Subject: Galaxies and Red Vines To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN You might get the feeling that there are several different versions of "Magnolia" in release, the version that people love and the version that people hate. I saw both of them today at the Galaxy in Hollywood. "Magnolia" is a challenging film, no question about it. It's long and it's intense but it richly rewards your close attention. If you like your movies quick and light, there are better ways to spend an evening. If you crave vivid characters that mirror and illuminate the nooks and crannies of the human condition, dig in. Some reviews suggest that "Magnolia" is derivative and sprawling. Some Aimee Mann fans have complained that her music isn't featured prominently enough for them. Others folks feel that Jon Brion's score is intrusive. My take, for what its worth: Jon's score is fabulous. Aimee's music is used just enough and in just the right places. Sprawling? You bet. Watching "Magnolia" is like reading a great novel. Derivative? I didn't think so. In fact, I can't remember seeing ANY film that was quite like this before. Sure, Paul Thomas Anderson has been to the movies and he's been influenced by what came before. But is he ripping off Tarantino and Altman? Again, no. Agreed, "Magnolia" is based on a series of interlocking vignettes but it has little else in common with "Go", "Pulp Fiction" or "Short Cuts". Is "Magnolia" too long? Personally, I was ready for more. In fact, I plan to see it again so that I can pay closer attention to the technical fireworks. I look forward to the day when I can own this one on DVD too. A note of warning: Don't load up on the reviews before you see "Magnolia". Keep an open mind and don't let anybody reveal any of the twists and turns in the story to you beforehand. Also noted: Mark Flanagan and Patrick Warren both make cameo appearances and so do the guys in the harmonica trio regularly featured at Largo. And: The Saturday matinee for "Magnolia" was absolutely jammed! "Magnolia" matinees are a bargain too, even in Hollyweird. Twenty bucks gets you a seat at the Galaxy, parking for your car, hot coffee, cold soda and three hours worth of popcorn and Red Vines. And, finally: "Magnolia" is my favorite film by far this year. The balcony is closed. >From PinkChanel@aol.com Sun Dec 19 04:29:52 1999 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id EAA25164 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 04:29:51 -0600 (CST) From: PinkChanel@aol.com Received: from PinkChanel@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.8cb7495b (4424) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 05:29:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8cb7495b.258e0d7b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 05:29:15 EST Subject: December 21, 1999 Village Voice To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello all! I apologize if this has already been mentioned here, but I'm having a wee bit of trouble retrieving all of my mail, so I don't know.... This week's Village Voice has a few mentions of Aimee in its article on PTA and Magnolia, which describes the film as "An epic downer with an apocalyptic interlude, a score full of Aimee Mann's heart-scraping pop songs, and an oddly happy ending." Anderson claims, "First of all, I wrote it for Aimee, who has been my best friend and inspiration, like, forever." But then PTA goes on further and ruins it all for me by saying, "But on a much bigger and more personal level, I wrote it for Fiona Apple." The article might still be online 'til next Tuesday....but I'm not sure, I am reading from the paper edition. Happy holidays everyone! Best, Camille >From Zabadak900@aol.com Sun Dec 19 08:46:42 1999 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA12149 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:46:41 -0600 (CST) From: Zabadak900@aol.com Received: from Zabadak900@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.e6b1ca06 (5703) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:46:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.e6b1ca06.258e49ae@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:46:06 EST Subject: Media Res To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Last week's Entertainment Weekly featured a nice profile on Jon Brion, complete w page sized colour photo. It's the issue w Matt Damon & Gwynneth on the cover. This week's, 1999 roundup, includes "The Soundtrack" on one reviewer's 10 best of the year. In addition there is a page-sized reproduction of the movie poster suitable for framing or, perhaps, autographing. Despite the triteness of awarding Ricky Martin "Entertainer of the Year", there is obviously someone on the editorial board who's hip. Cyrinda >From Kenableken@aol.com Sun Dec 19 09:01:44 1999 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA13218 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:01:43 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.6c496bd0 (3941) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:01:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6c496bd0.258e4d34@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:01:08 EST Subject: Re: Media Res To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/19/99 10:47:13 PM, Zabadak900@aol.com writes: << Despite the triteness of awarding Ricky Martin "Entertainer of the Year", there is obviously someone on the editorial board who's hip. >> Not only is he hip, he's also a member of this list! >From ElizaS33@aol.com Sun Dec 19 09:57:03 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA16185 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:57:03 -0600 (CST) From: ElizaS33@aol.com Received: from ElizaS33@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.f9d0b15d (3967) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:56:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.f9d0b15d.258e5a2c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:56:28 EST Subject: Re: Galaxies and Red Vines To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/19/99 1:11:36 AM, Salt5@aol.com writes: << Also noted: Mark Flanagan and Patrick Warren both make cameo appearances and so do the guys in the harmonica trio regularly featured at Largo.>> So does Patton Oswalt, Michael Penn's "translator." And Paul F Tompkins and Mary Lynn Rajskub - both regular providers of Aimee's banter - have significant voice roles. There were some other Largo folks about too, but mostly just as extras... >>And: The Saturday matinee for "Magnolia" was absolutely jammed! "Magnolia" matinees are a bargain too, even in Hollyweird. Twenty bucks gets you a seat at the Galaxy, parking for your car, hot coffee, cold soda and three hours worth of popcorn and Red Vines. >> Hey, we were at the same show! And it sounds like we came away with the same impression... By the way, there was a "review" of the movie in the San Fernando Valley-based Los Angeles Daily News that's an unmitigated hoot. It's on their website (www.dailynewslosangeles.com, then do a search), but you've gotta pay $1.95 to read it; having seen the hard copy, I wasn't that inspired. Imagine a huge banner headline at the top of page one: "Hollywood gets it wrong again in Magnolia." The writer took a bunch of of Valley residents to see what injustice had been done to their fair town, and oh boy, did they find 'em. The residents included a cop, his grandma, and the head of the Valley Village neighborhood Watch Committee or some such nonsense, and their outraged comments are just priceless. They gave the movie negative four stars... Elizabeth >From chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Sun Dec 19 10:17:11 1999 Received: from ime.net (ime.net [209.90.192.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA18087 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:17:10 -0600 (CST) From: chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Received: from z3e3c9 (4035-maine-56k.ime.net [209.90.251.35]) by ime.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA25716 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:17:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001f01bf4a3c$b781e620$23fb5ad1@z3e3c9> To: References: <0.8cb7495b.258e0d7b@aol.com> Subject: Re: December 21, 1999 Village Voice Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:18:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Camille wrote: > Anderson claims, "First of all, I wrote it for Aimee, who has been my best > friend and inspiration, like, forever." But then PTA goes on further and > ruins it all for me by saying, "But on a much bigger and more personal level, > I wrote it for Fiona Apple." It's about time PTA threw Fiona a frickin bone! :) Take care, Chris >From ScottRP@aol.com Sun Dec 19 11:07:23 1999 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.72]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA22586 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:07:23 -0600 (CST) From: ScottRP@aol.com Received: from ScottRP@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.79ee2206 (3973) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:06:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.79ee2206.258e6aa8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:06:48 EST Subject: PT Anderson Quotes Aimee To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In today's New York Times Magazine, there is a very interesting article on PT Anderson and the making of "Magnolia." Unfortunately there is no mention made of Ms. Mann in the article. However he uses the following to discuss his means of storytelling---"I'm the biggest subscriber to the gun that goes off in the first act, shows up again in the third." Interesting. Do you think "I'm With Stupid" has been on his CD player recently? Scott >From Kenableken@aol.com Sun Dec 19 11:30:38 1999 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.72]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA00116 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:30:32 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.7426aaad (4557) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:29:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.7426aaad.258e7013@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:29:55 EST Subject: Re: PT Anderson Quotes Aimee To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/20/99 1:07:52 AM, ScottRP@aol.com writes: << "I'm the biggest subscriber to the gun that goes off in the first act, shows up again in the third." Interesting. Do you think "I'm With Stupid" has been on his CD player recently? >> Or he's been reading Chekov or any sort of freshman comp handbook. (Not that I don't love that line.) >From shteevea@earthlink.net Sun Dec 19 14:20:13 1999 Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA08644 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:20:12 -0600 (CST) From: shteevea@earthlink.net Received: from teal [207.231.76.83] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id ADFB7015A; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:20:11 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Subject: Re: PT Anderson Quotes Aimee Message-Id: <191299353.44412@205.188.199.200> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:20:13 -0800 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Wasn't it actually Ibsen who originated that saying? --- Original Message --- Kenableken@aol.com Wrote on Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:29:55 EST ------------------ In a message dated 12/20/99 1:07:52 AM, ScottRP@aol.com writes: << "I'm the biggest subscriber to the gun that goes off in the first act, shows up again in the third." Interesting. Do you think "I'm With Stupid" has been on his CD player recently? >> Or he's been reading Chekov or any sort of freshman comp handbook. (Not that I don't love that line.) ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! >From Jim.theteacher@care4free.net Sun Dec 19 14:52:17 1999 Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id OAA12220 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:52:15 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 2348 invoked from network); 19 Dec 1999 20:52:14 -0000 Received: from usergt39.uk.uudial.com (HELO JimBowen) (62.188.1.92) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 1999 20:52:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01bf4a63$0d4c86c0$5c01bc3e@JimBowen> From: "James Bowen" To: Subject: subscription Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:53:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BF4A63.0BED9300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BF4A63.0BED9300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BF4A63.0BED9300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BF4A63.0BED9300-- >From ALLIEOAKLY@aol.com Sun Dec 19 15:21:48 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA13465 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 15:21:47 -0600 (CST) From: ALLIEOAKLY@aol.com Received: from ALLIEOAKLY@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.d2c68d26 (3865) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:21:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.d2c68d26.258ea643@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:21:07 EST Subject: Re: Media Res To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/19/99 10:02:15 AM, you wrote: << << Despite the triteness of awarding Ricky Martin "Entertainer of the Year", there is obviously someone on the editorial board who's hip. >> Not only is he hip, he's also a member of this list! >> woah! ya mean.. RICKY MARTIN IS ON THIS LIST!!??!? wow cool!!! hi ricky!! >From Zabadak900@aol.com Sun Dec 19 15:53:52 1999 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA14573 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 15:53:52 -0600 (CST) From: Zabadak900@aol.com Received: from Zabadak900@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.6c4bac4c (4589) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:53:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6c4bac4c.258eadcc@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:53:16 EST Subject: Re: Media Res To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN oy vey !!!!!!!!!!! >From roback@sirius.com Sun Dec 19 18:16:47 1999 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA23279 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:16:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA04321 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:16:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912200016.QAA04321@mail1.sirius.com> Subject: Re: Media Res Date: Sun, 19 Dec 99 16:18:22 -0800 x-sender: roback@pop.sirius.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: missy roback To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN um, i think the original writer was referring to an Entertainment Weekly writer being on this list. >In a message dated 12/19/99 10:02:15 AM, you wrote: > ><< ><< Despite the triteness of awarding Ricky Martin "Entertainer of the Year", >there is obviously someone on the editorial board who's hip. >> > >Not only is he hip, he's also a member of this list! > >>> >woah! ya mean.. >RICKY MARTIN IS ON THIS LIST!!??!? >wow cool!!! hi ricky!! > > ------------------ Missy Roback Honeybee Publishing 415.695.1642 coming soon ... honeybeepub.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sun Dec 19 20:52:43 1999 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA05480 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:52:43 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.cea6cbe3 (3926) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:52:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.cea6cbe3.258ef3d8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:52:08 EST Subject: WXPN comes through To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Magnolia was all ove rPhilly's WXP, that cities AAA station this weekend. It was their featuered album, which meant they played the whole thing all though the week. Although probably not Supertramp or Gabrelle, maybe Jon's controbution. Saturday I heard Aimee 3 times in one day on there, which is a lot, they don't play anyone more then once there. Momuntim sure sounds good on the radio. And they'll probably continue to play it after this week, which is good. I have no idea if other AAA stations are playing Magnolia, but XPN has always been a big supporter of Aimee and it's nice to know they still are. If other stations are, then this could be the start of the breakthough, it was AAA that broke Cheryl Crow and and Shawn Colven nationally and also folksinger Dar Williams, so they can do this with Aimee too. Andrea >From incubus1@ix.netcom.com Sun Dec 19 21:02:58 1999 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA05676 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:02:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sji-ca50-20.ix.netcom.com [209.111.213.20]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01642 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:02:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <385D2B63.E5D0052E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 19:00:51 +0000 From: Rob Moore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Ebert References: <0.cea6cbe3.258ef3d8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I just saw Rogert Ebert say Magnolia was "One of the years best movies". There was a woman who was his guest critic who didn't get it, she gave it a thumbs down. I think I'll be with Rog. >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 20 00:52:53 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA19742 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:52:52 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:57:58 -0600 Received: from 205.153.104.248 [205.153.104.248] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 16DB3593B49511D3AE3C006097D4776C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:57:57 -0600 Date: 20 Dec 1999 00:51:09 -0600 Message-ID: <-1266471444jsteinmann@clynch.com> Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Deathly To: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" X-SLUIDL: 0C2C0805-B49511D3-AE3C0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id AAA19743 X-Sender: "Jack Steinmann" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Can I gush again about Deathly? I can't get over it. It's the blackest love song Ms. Mann has ever recorded, with a lyrical content equal parts vitriol and self-loathing that would give John Lennon a run for his money. And the music is... mesmerizing. Jon Brion's guitar playing (many, many guitars) is haunting. (He really is George Martin and Paul McCartney rolled into one. Deathly would have been right at home on the first side of Abbey Road.) And, Ms. Mann's performance is heartbreaking. I cannot listen to the third verse without the hairs on the back of my neck standing on end. Aimee Mann is a national treasure. Jack >From rayach@mindspring.com Mon Dec 20 08:05:05 1999 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA12917 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:05:03 -0600 (CST) From: rayach@mindspring.com Received: from four-winds (user-2ivev7u.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.124.254]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04298 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:05:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199912201405.JAA04298@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:07:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Ebert Priority: normal In-reply-to: <385D2B63.E5D0052E@ix.netcom.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN 7F00,0000,0000> I just saw Rogert Ebert say Magnolia was "One of the years best movies". There > was a woman who was his guest critic who didn't get it, she gave it a thumbs > down. I think I'll be with Rog. > I'm looking forward to reading Ebert's review. He is the only film critic I will listen to. What I love about him is that he is a true movie enthusiast. If something is a little flawed he will not let that stand in the way of a glowing 4 star review if the film was a joy to watch. He gave the incredible Boogie Nights 4 stars while others where complaining of the length and meandering plot, etc. (Jeez guys can you just sit back and enjoy a movie for once?) His review will be up (usually when the movie opens nationally) at: http://www.suntimes.com/ebert Ray >From Zabadak900@aol.com Mon Dec 20 08:25:27 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA14758 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:25:26 -0600 (CST) From: Zabadak900@aol.com Received: from Zabadak900@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.d0229149 (4534) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:24:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.d0229149.258f9635@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:24:53 EST Subject: Re: Ebert To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Roger was contracted to write the script for the Sex Pistols movie, "Who Killed Bambi", before it was scrubbed by the band's demise; reason enuf to take his opinion as "gospel". Now if he had only written the script for "Vegas In Space". Cyrinda >From chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Mon Dec 20 08:45:55 1999 Received: from ime.net (ime.net [209.90.192.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA16428 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:45:54 -0600 (CST) From: chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Received: from z3e3c9 (3169-maine-56k.ime.net [209.90.250.169]) by ime.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA18448 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:45:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003401bf4af9$26a4a620$b1f05ad1@z3e3c9> To: References: <199912201405.JAA04298@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: Re: Ebert Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:45:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ray wrote: > His review will be up (usually when the movie opens nationally) at: > > http://www.suntimes.com/ebert In a few days it'll also be up in audio form (Shockwave required) at http://tvplex.go.com/buenavista/siskelandebert/reviews.html . Ebert's guest reviewer was Joyce Kulhawik, entertainment reporter since 1981 for WBZ-TV (a CBS O&O in Boston that carries Ebert on Sunday mornings.) Her bio is available at http://www.wbz.com/now/story/0,1597,2261-364,00.shtml . Take care, Chris >From Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com Mon Dec 20 08:50:43 1999 Received: from mailsrv.frc.com (mail.frc.com [208.235.135.211]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA16839 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:50:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from hqmail01.frc.com ([172.20.12.21]) by mailsrv.frc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5D3E for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:50:11 -0500 Received: by HQMAIL01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:49:49 -0500 Message-ID: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A634F@HQMAIL01> From: "Bachman, Michael" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: FW: Magnolia soundtrack reviewed in the Oaland Press Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:49:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > -----Original Message----- > From: Bachman, Michael > Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 9:28 AM > To: 'mannlists@lists.cc.utexas.edu' > Subject: Magnolia soundtrack reviewed in the Oaland Press > > > Just though I would share with the list this nice review from The > Oakland Press, a newspaper > from Oakland county, the county north of Detroit where I live. > > > Soundtracks > Aimee Mann, et al. > "Music From the Motion Picture "Magnolia" > Reprise > **** > We've become so used to film soundtracks as jutebos-style > promotions for their respective > films that movie whose music is done all or mostly by one > performer is an odity - but in the > case of "Magnolia", a most welcome one. Some of Aimee Mann's > songs here are actually > inspired director Paul Thomas Anderson ("Boogie Nights") to > create or alter characters for > the film and declare in the liner nnotes that "everything she > seemed to be thinking were things > that I was thinking". That it's a cohesive package is not a > accident. Most of former 'Til Tuesday > leader Man's tunes were targeted for her next solo album, > "Bachelor No. 2," which was > criminally discarded in the Universal Music Group merger ear;lier > this year (she'll release it on > her own label next year). Reflective and gently melancholy, > Mann's songs are melodically > irresistible, from the jazzy discordance of "Momentum" to the > careful, textured popcraft of > "Build That Wall," "Deathly," the bouncy "Driving Sideways" and > the achingly emotive "Wise Up" > - though her cover of Harry Nilsson-written Three Dog Night hit > "One' pales in comparison to Mann's > own songs. Older tracks form Supertramp and Gabrielle, as well as > a snippet of Jon Brion's > score, fill out the album, but Mann is the "Magnolia" albums's > richly deserving star. Hers's > hoping it brings attention to her criminally under-appreciated > solo work. > > - Gary Graff > Of the Oakland Press > **** = Stellar > > I couldn't say it better. > > Michael >From patrick@cleasby.freeserve.co.uk Mon Dec 20 10:35:17 1999 Received: from nt3-omnes.london.omnes.net (nt3-omnes.london.omnes.net [134.32.100.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA26001 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:35:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from cleasby.london.oilfield.slb.com ([134.32.100.46]) by nt3-omnes.london.omnes.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 589-44053U500L2S100) with ESMTP id AAA111 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:34:22 +0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991220162507.00a5a740@nt3-omnes.london.oilfield.slb.com> X-Sender: cleasby.freeserve.co.uk@pop.freeserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:34:54 +0000 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Patrick Cleasby Subject: A distant buzz from across the ocean In-Reply-To: <199912191200.GAA28058@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi >"But on a much bigger and more personal level, >I wrote it for Fiona Apple." Oops! It's a bit weird only getting the buzz on Magnolia via this list, (not sure when it opens in the UK), but all the reviews getting posted here make it sound like the Sign 'o The Times of movies - ie. genius, but in need of editing. Any UK mannlisters able to tell me the opening date? (not so) patiently waiting for my Magnolia CD to arrive..... Patrick >From scottrob@bp.com Mon Dec 20 10:37:54 1999 Received: from eugw1.bp.com (eugw1.bp.com [194.203.80.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA26169 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:37:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by eugw1.bp.com; id QAA09965; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:37:16 GMT Received: from unknown(161.102.253.106) by eugw1 via smap (V2.1) id xma009166; Mon, 20 Dec 99 16:35:07 GMT Received: from 161.102.253.109 by euhemx8.hem.eu.bp.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:35:04 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Received: by EUIMSX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:33:32 -0000 Message-ID: <3985736BE20ED011B58300805FEAF208014091B0@EUABZX4> From: "Scott, Robert (KOGL)" To: "'Aimee List'" Subject: Magnolia soundtrack Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:24:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id KAA26170 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Tried to get it on Saturday, only to be told that it won't be released here (in the UK) until February at least! One thing that would make it worth the extra ŁŁ for the import is if I was told that the US version has any 'enhanced CD stuff' on it. I remember someone saying the promo had the 'Save Me' video. If it does, it may get deleted from the UK issued copy like the US 'til Tuesday 'Coming Up Close' CD had videos etc. on it, but the UK version didn't. Cheers Bobbie Scott BP HARDING Document Control 3A/4 ext. 3132 e-mail - scottrob@bp.com >From markust@mindless.com Mon Dec 20 11:20:36 1999 Received: from rmx01.mail.com (rmx01.mail.com [165.251.32.149]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA28608 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:20:35 -0600 (CST) From: markust@mindless.com Received: from weba8.iname.net (weba8.iname.net [165.251.4.18]) by rmx01.mail.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06710 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by weba8.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id MAA15834; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:20:33 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <991220122033CN.17742@weba8.iname.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:20:33 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: aimee mann Subject: random thoughts Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN LOL about Ricky Martin. Thanks, I needed that on a Monday morning. Deathly is wonderful. I especially like the background vox by Julianna Hatfield and Jon Brion. My faves from Magnolia are You do and Save me though. The line about a girl and a tourniquet is priceless. The chorus about the freaks keeps running through my head. And of course I can't get enough of Wise up. That delicate piano and chamberlain combined with the lyrics slay me. Definitely a highlight of the show I saw at Largo last year--gave me chills. Looking forward to a Seattle show! tim olympia, wa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com >From WillTommy@aol.com Mon Dec 20 11:29:23 1999 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA28992 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:29:22 -0600 (CST) From: WillTommy@aol.com Received: from WillTommy@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.a164939e (4330) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:28:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.a164939e.258fc150@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:28:48 EST Subject: GOLDEN GLOBE NOMINATION!!!!!! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id LAA28993 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Aimee was nominated for a Golden Globe Award, competing against Madonna & William Orbit (Beautiful Stranger from The Spy Who Shagged Me), Kenneth “Baby Face” Edmonds (How Can I Not Love You from Anna And The King), Phil Collins (You’ll Be In My Heart from Tarzan) and Randy Newman (When She Loved Me from Toy Story 2) Formidable competition, yes, but if the Hollywood Foreign Press actually sits down and listens to all five songs closely, there should be no doubt in their minds who the winner should be. >From Wzzy@aol.com Mon Dec 20 11:43:50 1999 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.7]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA01097 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:43:49 -0600 (CST) From: Wzzy@aol.com Received: from Wzzy@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.a77005d6 (4420) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:43:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.a77005d6.258fc4b0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:43:12 EST Subject: Golden Globe Nominations! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Just in case you haven't seen this, with apologies if you have (I get the digest version and don't see posts 'till the next day). 2000 Golden Globe Nominations For the year ended December 31, 1999 BEST ORIGINAL SONG - MOTION PICTURE BEAUTIFUL STRANGER - Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me Music: Madonna Lyrics: Madonna and William Orbit HOW CAN I NOT LOVE YOU - Anna and the King Music and Lyrics: Kenneth Edmonds, George Fenton & Robert Kraft ***SAVE ME - Magnolia Music and Lyrics: Aimee Mann*** WHEN SHE LOVED ME - Toy Story 2 Music and Lyrics: Randy Newman YOU'LL BE IN MY HEART - Tarzan Music and Lyrics: Phil Collins and... BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE IN A MOTION PICTURE MICHAEL CAINE The Cider House Rules ***TOM CRUISE Magnolia *** MICHAEL CLARKE DUNCAN The Green Mile JUDE LAW The Talented Mr. Ripley HALEY JOEL OSMENT The Sixth Sense >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 20 11:51:58 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA03069 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:51:58 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:57:05 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.118 [206.8.2.118] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 16DB3B4EB49511D3AE3C006097D4776C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:57:05 -0600 Date: 20 Dec 99 11:52:35 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Golden Globe Nominations! To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991220115705.16db3b4eb49511d3ae3c006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 7217099B-B6EE11D3-AE3C0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id LAA03070 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Golden Globe Nominations! Maybe Ms. Mann could pick up an award if for no other reason than the fact that the alternatives are too painful to consider. >From epw@mcmail.com Mon Dec 20 13:35:47 1999 Received: from cwcom.net (email.mcmail.com [195.44.0.153]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA19182 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:35:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from uxlfdlvk ([195.44.200.27]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:35:18 +0000 Message-ID: <002f01bf4b1f$78fed820$1bc82cc3@uxlfdlvk> From: "Edmund PW" To: References: <3985736BE20ED011B58300805FEAF208014091B0@EUABZX4> Subject: Magnolia soundtrack in the UK Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:21:50 -0000 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I too found that it won't be released in the UK till next millenium (that's how long it will feel too!). So I ordered it from aimeemann.com and it arrived three days later, for just under $19 including shipping. There's no way it will be that cheap in the shops in the UK, so I recommend all Brits to get their credit cards out sharpish. Fantastic album, shame about the Supertramp songs. Edmund ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott, Robert (KOGL) To: 'Aimee List' Sent: 20 December 1999 16:24 Subject: Magnolia soundtrack > Tried to get it on Saturday, only to be told that it won't be released here > (in the UK) until February at least! One thing that would make it worth the > extra ŁŁ for the import is if I was told that the US version has any > 'enhanced CD stuff' on it. I remember someone saying the promo had the 'Save > Me' video. If it does, it may get deleted from the UK issued copy like the > US 'til Tuesday 'Coming Up Close' CD had videos etc. on it, but the UK > version didn't. > Cheers > Bobbie Scott > > BP HARDING > Document Control > 3A/4 > ext. 3132 > e-mail - scottrob@bp.com > >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 20 13:36:12 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA19196 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:36:11 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.28761922 (4555) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:35:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.28761922.258fdf0a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:35:38 EST Subject: Re: GOLDEN GLOBE NOMINATION!!!!!! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Tha is wonderful! I agree, she's better then the others nomanted. Madonna yuk! Andrea >From CWillman@aol.com Mon Dec 20 14:03:47 1999 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA22247 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:03:47 -0600 (CST) From: CWillman@aol.com Received: from CWillman@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.2f954222 (4555) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:03:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.2f954222.258fe57f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:03:11 EST Subject: re: Golden Globe Nominations! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/20/99 5:52:28 PM, jsteinmann@clynch.com writes: <> Well, the Randy Newman song is pretty fucking great. >From Kenableken@aol.com Mon Dec 20 14:16:03 1999 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA23202 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:16:02 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.a9159efe (4219) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:15:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.a9159efe.258fe85b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:15:23 EST Subject: re: Golden Globe Nominations! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have to confess to kinda liking the Madonna tune, though I'm always a bit skeptical of her writing credits. But that Randy Newman song really made me want to bite down onto my nephew's forearm. So, the winner is: "Save Me" >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Mon Dec 20 14:16:27 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA23244 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:16:25 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:21:33 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.118 [206.8.2.118] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 16DB3DF2B49511D3AE3C006097D4776C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:21:32 -0600 Date: 20 Dec 99 14:17:01 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Golden Globe Nominations! To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991220142133.16db3df2b49511d3ae3c006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 72171059-B6EE11D3-AE3C0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id OAA23249 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: re: Golden Globe Nominations! I seem to be in hot water re: Mr. Newman. Having sat through a number of his less-than-compelling efforts for previous films I have evidently falsely concluded than Toy Story 2 is no exception. May the best song win! On 12/20/99, CWillman wrote: In a message dated 12/20/99 5:52:28 PM, jsteinmann@clynch.com writes: <> Well, the Randy Newman song is pretty fucking great. >From sharkyd1@yahoo.com Mon Dec 20 14:22:51 1999 Received: from web1705.mail.yahoo.com (web1705.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.216]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id OAA23865 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:22:49 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 10613 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Dec 1999 20:22:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19991220202248.10612.qmail@web1705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web1705.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:22:48 PST Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:22:48 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Downey Subject: Re: NY Times Magnolia Review +others (some aimee content) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1957747793-945721368=:10204" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1957747793-945721368=:10204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greg Komoto wrote: Huh???????????????? Can you post the URL's for these sites. I couldn't find either of them as you have them written above. Thanks --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping. --0-1957747793-945721368=:10204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 

Greg Komoto <gkomoto@jps.net> wrote:

<You can read the reviews very handily from any number of movie review hubs like
Movie Review Query and Rotten Tomators.>

Huh???????????????? Can you post the URL's for these sites. I couldn't find either of them as you have them written above.

Thanks


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--0-1957747793-945721368=:10204-- >From 103125.1703@compuserve.com Mon Dec 20 14:25:19 1999 Received: from spamgaac.compuserve.com (as-img-3.compuserve.com [149.174.217.146]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA24242 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:25:16 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id PAA09840 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:24:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:24:15 -0500 From: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> Subject: Just Being Nominated Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu To: Mannlist Message-ID: <199912201524_MC2-91CF-3297@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id OAA24248 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Sender: Jim <103125.1703@compuserve.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This nomination is really big news. Aimee's about to lose her low profile. Thanks to Paul Thomas Anderson. It's about time her powers hooked someone with influence. Do the songs get performed on the Golden Globes telecast? I'm pretty sure the ceremony got big ratings last year. >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Mon Dec 20 14:27:33 1999 Received: from dockmaster.usfca.edu (dockmaster.usfca.edu [138.202.192.9]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA24503 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:27:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.41.128] (dialup-41-128.usfca.edu [138.202.41.128]) by dockmaster.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18912 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:27:36 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002f01bf4b1f$78fed820$1bc82cc3@uxlfdlvk> References: <3985736BE20ED011B58300805FEAF208014091B0@EUABZX4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:30:12 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: Magnolia soundtrack in the UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id OAA24504 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN , shame about the >Supertramp songs. > >Edmund > > hi all, i was wondering too about the Supertramp songs - i haven't seenthe movie yet - it hadn't hit San Fran as of last friday - i am jumping out of my skin with anticipation - as i listened to the Soundtrack i figured they were either favorites of PTA's or one of the movie's characters or the lyrics fit well with one of plots.....goodbye stranger, its been nice, hope you find your paradise....perhaps the dying Jason Robards. any ideas? oh, Deathly and Driving Sideways (love that lilting melody) and Save Me are my faves. but of course, i love all of aimee's songs! beth > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Scott, Robert (KOGL) >To: 'Aimee List' >Sent: 20 December 1999 16:24 >Subject: Magnolia soundtrack > > >> Tried to get it on Saturday, only to be told that it won't be released >here >> (in the UK) until February at least! One thing that would make it worth >the >> extra ŁŁ for the import is if I was told that the US version has any >> 'enhanced CD stuff' on it. I remember someone saying the promo had the >'Save >> Me' video. If it does, it may get deleted from the UK issued copy like the >> US 'til Tuesday 'Coming Up Close' CD had videos etc. on it, but the UK >> version didn't. >> Cheers >> Bobbie Scott >> >> BP HARDING >> Document Control >> 3A/4 >> ext. 3132 >> e-mail - scottrob@bp.com >> Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Mon Dec 20 14:31:15 1999 Received: from dockmaster.usfca.edu (dockmaster.usfca.edu [138.202.192.9]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA24810 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:31:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.41.128] (dialup-41-128.usfca.edu [138.202.41.128]) by dockmaster.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18994 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:31:19 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199912201524_MC2-91CF-3297@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:33:56 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: Just Being Nominated Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN the nomination is well deserved, long overdue, not unexpected and downright glorious!! i am lighting candles and sending good vibes. Aimee Rocks! Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From Kenableken@aol.com Mon Dec 20 14:37:47 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA25402 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:37:46 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.c8996b2 (4219) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:37:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.c8996b2.258fed77@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:37:11 EST Subject: supertramp (OT, somewhat) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The Supertramp songs are featured at length in a really long bar sequence. They are given the same weight as the Aimee songs really. Which kind of irked me. >From WillTommy@aol.com Mon Dec 20 15:26:33 1999 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA00867 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:26:31 -0600 (CST) From: WillTommy@aol.com Received: from WillTommy@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.1fab66b5 (3844) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:25:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.1fab66b5.258ff8e5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:25:57 EST Subject: Re: Just Being Nominated To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id PAA00868 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN the songs were once performed on the Golden Globes, but no longer... however, it would be great if they changed their minds and had the songs showcased on the show. No doubt, Aimee and Michael will be sitting with Sean Penn, who is nominated for Sweet and Lowdown (should he attend). Thus, there will be lots of camera shots of Aimee, not to mention her CLOSE-UP when they announce her name as a nominee… and hopefully an ever bigger CLOSE-UP when she makes her way to the stage, up to the podium and tells Imago and David Geffen where they can stick her Golden Globe! >From Scott.Fickle@asphalt-materials.com Mon Dec 20 15:42:19 1999 Received: from hgexas01.asphalt-materials.com (hgexas01.asphalt-materials.com [208.200.241.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA03304 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:42:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by HGEXAS01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:35:53 -0500 Message-ID: <428273F742E6D2119B3500805FEA15CC59D0BF@HGEXAS01> From: "Fickle, Scott" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: Just Being Nominated Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:34:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF4B32.0EFF39DE" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4B32.0EFF39DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Very Well Put..... I couldn't have said it better.... -----Original Message----- From: WillTommy@aol.com [mailto:WillTommy@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 4:26 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Just Being Nominated the songs were once performed on the Golden Globes, but no longer... however, it would be great if they changed their minds and had the songs showcased on the show. No doubt, Aimee and Michael will be sitting with Sean Penn, who is nominated for Sweet and Lowdown (should he attend). Thus, there will be lots of camera shots of Aimee, not to mention her CLOSE-UP when they announce her name as a nominee... and hopefully an ever bigger CLOSE-UP when she makes her way to the stage, up to the podium and tells Imago and David Geffen where they can stick her Golden Globe! ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4B32.0EFF39DE Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Just Being Nominated

Very Well Put.....   I couldn't have said it better....


 -----Original Message-----
From:   WillTommy@aol.com [mailto:WillTommy@aol.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 20, 1999 4:26 PM
To:     mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
Subject:        Re: Just Being Nominated

the songs were once performed on the Golden Globes, but no longer... however,
it would be great if they changed their minds and had the songs showcased on
the show. No doubt, Aimee and Michael will be sitting with Sean Penn, who is
nominated for Sweet and Lowdown (should he attend). Thus, there will be lots
of camera shots of Aimee, not to mention her CLOSE-UP when they announce her
name as a nominee... and hopefully an ever bigger CLOSE-UP when she makes her
way to the stage, up to the podium and tells Imago and David Geffen where
they can stick her Golden Globe!

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4B32.0EFF39DE-- >From steve@blueskystudios.com Mon Dec 20 15:52:24 1999 Received: from drums.blueskystudios.com (drums.blueskystudios.com [209.208.142.121]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA03794 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:52:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from niagara.blueskyprod.com (hidden-user@maginot.blueskystudios.com [209.208.142.102]) by drums.blueskystudios.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10085 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from redhook.blueskyprod.com (redhook.blueskyprod.com [199.165.156.147]) by niagara.blueskyprod.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24362 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from blueskystudios.com (nyack.blueskyprod.com [199.165.156.59]) by redhook.blueskyprod.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA333828 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:52:21 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Message-ID: <385EA511.520B4A4@blueskystudios.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:52:17 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Organization: Blue Sky Studios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; IRIX64 6.4 IP30) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: supertramp (OT, somewhat) References: <0.c8996b2.258fed77@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Sender: steve@blueskystudios.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Kenableken@aol.com wrote: > > The Supertramp songs are featured at length in a really long bar sequence. > They are given the same weight as the Aimee songs really. Which kind of > irked me. Hold on partner... Yer not one of them "Aimee's music wasn't in exactly EVERY scene of the movie" fanatics, are ya? ; ) Seriously folks, she only: 1. "bookends" the entire film... 2. Has a major sequence revolve around the fact that a song of hers is being played too loudly... 3. Has the distinction of yet ANOTHER song being simultaneously sung by the major cast members (which didn't bother me one bit - haven't the naysayer reviewers ever broke out into song when the appropriate emotion required it?) 4. Has the hidden "bonus" track serve as a subtle backdrop to another scene and provides additional fade-ins and outs throughout the film. Geez, what more could an Aimee Mann fan want??? I felt the Supertramp songs were appropriate in setting the required mood for the scenes in the bar. The only minor problem i had with the music was Jon Brion's AMAZING score was too often built up to a crescendo and then subsided, leaving the viewer hanging and wondering what the build up was all about in the first place. This occured numerous times and it was distracting enough that i noticed it. Over all, i thoroughly enjoyed the film. Now, i can't wait to see Milos Foreman's "Man On The Moon" this Wednesday! Happy Holidays, -Steve -- Steve Talkowski Senior Animator / Blue Sky Studios http://www.blueskystudios.com >From gkomoto@jps.net Mon Dec 20 16:15:42 1999 Received: from smtp6.jps.net (smtp6.jps.net [209.63.224.103]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA06439 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:15:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from jps.net (webmail.jps.net [209.63.224.19]) by smtp6.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA00435; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:15:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Greg Komoto" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: gkomoto@jps.net To: Mark Downey , mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:15:34 GMT Subject: Re: NY Times Magnolia Review +others (some aimee content) X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.3b, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <385eaa86.7771.0@jps.net> X-User-Info: 132.233.247.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: gkomoto@jps.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Per request: Rotten Tomatoes (sorry, a typo in the first post) has quotes from various reviews and links to their online content. WARNING: Most of these reviews contain little to no Aimee content, and contain MAJOR SPOILERS. http://www.rotten-tomatoes.com/magnolia/magnolia_reviews.asp The Movie Review Query Engine allows you to search on current movie reviews: http://www.mrqe.com Also, the PT Anderson fan site has links to soundtrack reviews. These also contain movie spoilers. http://www.ptanderson.com I did not post the URLs initially because I did not want my post to seem like an ad for these sites. BTW, I have access to a very comprehensive news service, which is why I have been coming out of lurking mode to post Aimee press and other related news. Greg >--0-1957747793-945721368=:10204 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Greg Komoto wrote: > >Movie Review Query and Rotten Tomators.> > >Huh???????????????? Can you post the URL's for these sites. I couldn't find either of them as you have them written above. > >Thanks > > >--------------------------------- >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. >Yahoo! Shopping. > >--0-1957747793-945721368=:10204 >From UFOTUFO101@aol.com Mon Dec 20 16:15:48 1999 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.72]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA06465 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:15:47 -0600 (CST) From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Received: from UFOTUFO101@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.29afbd15 (4575) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:15:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.29afbd15.25900472@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:15:14 EST Subject: NYC shows To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN does anyone have the scoop on the NYC shows yet? -gina >From UFOTUFO101@aol.com Mon Dec 20 16:15:54 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA06475 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:15:52 -0600 (CST) From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Received: from UFOTUFO101@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.8fd26399 (4575) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:15:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8fd26399.25900471@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:15:13 EST Subject: Re: reviews To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN hey guys, i'm not sure if it was posted or not but magnolia got a rave review in the Wall Street Journal. my dad works there and says that it must be good because the crictic is very harsh w/ his reviews. -gina >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Mon Dec 20 16:21:36 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f119.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.119]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id QAA06988 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:21:32 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 92896 invoked by uid 0); 20 Dec 1999 22:20:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19991220222059.92895.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.131.179 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:20:59 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.131.179] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Vindication at last!! Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:20:59 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I just want to say that this is a very good sign. The Globes are a great forecast for the Oscars! Their eligibility rules and dates are slightly different from the Oscars though, so we may not see all of the same nominees. (they vary anyway, of course.) Was BEAUTIFUL STRANGER written DIRECTLY for SPY WHO SHAGGED?! I also wanted to say that I TOLD YOU SO. For all who felt this material wasn't too commercial enough or who insisted that MAGNOLIA and/or SAVE ME had to me a hit to be noticed. Heck, the movie hasn't even really been released yet! Next stop: Dorothy Chandler Pavillion. I will NEVER EVER EVER criticize the foreign press and the Globes again!! >From: Wzzy@aol.com > >2000 Golden Globe Nominations >For the year ended December 31, 1999 > >BEST ORIGINAL SONG - MOTION PICTURE > >BEAUTIFUL STRANGER - Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me Music: Madonna >Lyrics: Madonna and William Orbit >HOW CAN I NOT LOVE YOU - Anna and the King Music and Lyrics: Kenneth >Edmonds, >George Fenton & Robert Kraft >***SAVE ME - Magnolia Music and Lyrics: Aimee Mann*** >WHEN SHE LOVED ME - Toy Story 2 Music and Lyrics: Randy Newman >YOU'LL BE IN MY HEART - Tarzan Music and Lyrics: Phil Collins > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Piedlourde@aol.com Mon Dec 20 17:47:02 1999 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA11171 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:47:02 -0600 (CST) From: Piedlourde@aol.com Received: from Piedlourde@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.b08a3d7a (4325) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:46:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.b08a3d7a.259019d3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:46:27 EST Subject: Question for the sharp-eyed To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 52 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Were my eyes playing tricks on me, or was the Claudia character sniffing cocaine off of the cracked CD cover of "Whatever"? Was this mentioned already? I could have sworn I saw it a couple of times. Back to lurking, but I have to know if I'm hallucinating. :) Piedlourde >From markust@mindless.com Mon Dec 20 17:50:13 1999 Received: from rmx09.globecomm.net (rmx09.iname.net [165.251.8.95]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA11358 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:50:12 -0600 (CST) From: markust@mindless.com Received: from weba3.iname.net by rmx09.globecomm.net (8.9.1/8.8.0) with ESMTP id SAA28296 ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by weba3.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id SAA07403; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:50:11 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <991220185011F1.06932@weba3.iname.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:50:11 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: aimee mann Subject: Woohoo! Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN i don't recall anyone saying that aimee wouldn't (or shouldn't) be nominated, and a nomination is indeed a wonderful thing that can only help her career. Aimee winning, however, would still be a long shot IMO. There are a lot of factors beyond the quality of a song that go into these awards. The politics of winning an oscar are often a long and sordid tale. And Aimee (bless her soul) has a proven track record of not playing the game. Do the golden globes have a better record of rewarding quality? I think so but don't know. I imagine everyone on this list hopes Aimee is nominated for and wins every award possible. The realist in me knows that if she doesn't win it won't be because she didn't have the best song or the most dedicated fans but because the system is flawed. Also there is the matter of the judges' personal taste. And this is all just speculation anyway. CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK AIMEE! tim olympia, wa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com >From UFOTUFO101@aol.com Mon Dec 20 17:56:19 1999 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA11722 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:56:18 -0600 (CST) From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Received: from UFOTUFO101@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.de90ce94 (4452) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:55:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.de90ce94.25901bfb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:55:39 EST Subject: aimee on the radion To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN hey they just played aimee on wfuv..90.7...right after the new fiona...then rem and natalie merchant and now new indigo girls...oh how i love my station. -gina >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Mon Dec 20 17:57:13 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f206.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.206]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id RAA12062 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:57:12 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 27624 invoked by uid 0); 20 Dec 1999 23:56:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19991220235640.27623.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.131.179 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:56:40 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.131.179] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: NYC shows Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:56:40 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I am working on it. Salt and Milan, where are you?!!!!! I can't remember the exact dates and venue for NYC. I will call Hausman today. I am so sorry. Mike Wallace would never lose his notes. ;-) >From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: NYC shows >Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:15:14 EST > >does anyone have the scoop on the NYC shows yet? > >-gina > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From cam@extraneous.demon.co.uk Mon Dec 20 17:58:07 1999 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA12117 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:58:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from extraneous.demon.co.uk ([194.222.63.186] helo=UKsolyib41) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 120Cgj-000DfD-0V for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:58:02 +0000 From: "Cameron Smith" To: Subject: RE: Magnolia soundtrack in the UK Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:59:34 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <002f01bf4b1f$78fed820$1bc82cc3@uxlfdlvk> Importance: Normal Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Shame about the Supertramp songs? Bloody well wrong! Balls to Monty, that's what I say... Needless to say I love Supertramp so as far as a 9-track Aimee "e.p." goes, I can live with their contribution. But then I'm a Freak (well, a Marillion fan) too so what can I say. As an AM fan, I am really looking forward to what is to come but unfortunately Mr. Postman has not gone 'postal' on me yet so I'm still patiently awaiting the Amazon.com package. I have at least got my hands on one copy of the preview EP and thus far it's filling my every waking moment and it's just a touch brilliant. Now, to stir up the hornet's nest somewhat, imagine thus... Okay, here goes. You're an Aimee fan. Some guy called James Cameron has just called a certain someone and persuaded them to record a song call "Jesus Wept, The Ship Went Down (And Lord, How I Cried!) " and it got nominated for an Oscar for best contribution to a soundtrack... Maybe I'm too close to the bone and should quit while I'm behind. I'm a huge Elliott Smith fan but it didn't happen there either (although his unshaven sight at the ceremony was one to behold...) but despite our better taste, I hope our collective mentor gets something worthwhile out of Magnolia. Later, my dear Mannlisters Cameron P.S. Supertramp? Goodbye, stranger... nah, I won't even go there.... -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Edmund PW Sent: 20 December 1999 11:22 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Magnolia soundtrack in the UK I too found that it won't be released in the UK till next millenium (that's how long it will feel too!). So I ordered it from aimeemann.com and it arrived three days later, for just under $19 including shipping. There's no way it will be that cheap in the shops in the UK, so I recommend all Brits to get their credit cards out sharpish. Fantastic album, shame about the Supertramp songs. Edmund ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott, Robert (KOGL) To: 'Aimee List' Sent: 20 December 1999 16:24 Subject: Magnolia soundtrack > Tried to get it on Saturday, only to be told that it won't be released here > (in the UK) until February at least! One thing that would make it worth the > extra ŁŁ for the import is if I was told that the US version has any > 'enhanced CD stuff' on it. I remember someone saying the promo had the 'Save > Me' video. If it does, it may get deleted from the UK issued copy like the > US 'til Tuesday 'Coming Up Close' CD had videos etc. on it, but the UK > version didn't. > Cheers > Bobbie Scott > > BP HARDING > Document Control > 3A/4 > ext. 3132 > e-mail - scottrob@bp.com > >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Mon Dec 20 18:25:32 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f150.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.150]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id SAA21627 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:25:30 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 26704 invoked by uid 0); 21 Dec 1999 00:24:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19991221002459.26703.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.131.179 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:24:58 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.131.179] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: doubters Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:24:58 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Tim, What list have you been reading?! There were a number of posts who thought we were A)going overboard by giving Aimee too much credit for the part her music played in the film and B) who thought that Aimee getting these sorts of nominations was a LONGSHOT (no pun) at best. You are correct that no one on the list was not HOPEFUL or felt she did not deserve it. For those who think the execs won't notice, think about this: any national award exposure is going to catch the notice of the music industry, and with a new solo album coming out, can a grammy nomination be far behind?! She has a much better chance of winning a grammy too, because they give so many out. I think they even have one for Best Overlooked Artist Who Has Been Shafted By Many Record Companies. The great thing is since she writes and sings, she can receive so omany multiple nominations Record of the Year, album of the year, Song of the year, Best female vocal. Someone posterd that there IS precedent of this, so how about Best New Artist too! ;-) I mean, to everyone but us. >From: markust@mindless.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > >Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:50:11 -0500 (EST) > >i don't recall anyone saying that aimee wouldn't (or shouldn't) be >nominated, ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From markust@mindless.com Mon Dec 20 18:54:44 1999 Received: from rmx04.globecomm.net (rmx04.iname.net [165.251.8.202]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA23545 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:54:43 -0600 (CST) From: markust@mindless.com Received: from weba4.iname.net by rmx04.globecomm.net (8.9.1/8.8.0) with ESMTP id TAA21176 ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by weba4.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id TAA16745; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:54:42 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <991220195442JK.07625@weba4.iname.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:54:42 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Y2K = AM Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Paul, there are times I wonder what list I'm reading . You have enough optimism for all of us! Here's to 2000, the year of Aimee. tim ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com >From CWillman@aol.com Mon Dec 20 19:55:54 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA28011 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:55:53 -0600 (CST) From: CWillman@aol.com Received: from CWillman@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.d0299815 (4009) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:55:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.d0299815.25903809@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:55:21 EST Subject: Re: Question for the sharp-eyed To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN In a message dated 12/20/99 11:47:33 PM, Piedlourde@aol.com writes: <> No tricks. Anderson mentions this, in fact, in their upcoming joint interview in Entertainment Weekly (plug plug). >From brown23@gate.net Mon Dec 20 20:20:08 1999 Received: from shasta.gate.net (root@shasta.gate.net [198.206.134.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA28876 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:20:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-134.gate.net [207.36.212.134]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA69432 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:20:06 -0500 Message-ID: <385EE2BF.1358D7C2@gate.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:15:27 -0500 From: Bill Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Vindication at last!! References: <19991220222059.92895.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Beautiful Stranger is a direct rip-off of Love's "She Comes In Colors". Poor old Arthur Lee is rotting in jail, while Madonna blatantly steals his song. I heard the similarities immediately & then a few weeks later there was a blurb in Rolling Stone that Rhino Records was thinking the same thing. It is so similar that they thought Madonna was doing a tribute to Love. But Madonna denied even knowing who Love were. If she doesn't know, Orbit definitely does & this whole song should be thrown out of the competition!!- Bill Paul Barras wrote: > I just want to say that this is a very good sign. The Globes are a great > forecast for the Oscars! Their eligibility rules and dates are slightly > different from the Oscars though, so we may not see all of the same > nominees. (they vary anyway, of course.) Was BEAUTIFUL STRANGER written > DIRECTLY for SPY WHO SHAGGED?! >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 20 20:49:54 1999 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA00355 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:49:52 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.da5469d6 (4541) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:49:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.da5469d6.259044ab@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:49:15 EST Subject: Re: Magnolia soundtrack in the UK To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I don't know about the context the Supretramp songs are used in the film, one is originally about one night stands, and the other, well my memory may be faulty, because i read this many years ago. Logical Song is suposetly a satire on the English eudcational system, Supertramp are English, and they're system is very diffrent from the US's. Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 20 20:52:58 1999 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA00499 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:52:57 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.3c0389d7 (4541) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:52:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3c0389d7.25904566@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:52:22 EST Subject: Re: Just Being Nominated To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN No not Imago and geffin, Interscope. And boy I hope Aimee does tell interscope where to go. Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 20 21:18:40 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA01795 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:18:39 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id i.0.bee1d8e2 (4541); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:18:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.bee1d8e2.25904b6a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:18:02 EST Subject: Re: aimee on the radion To: sonichawk@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm so jealous, Aimee on FUV, which is, for those who don't know a AAA station for NY that doesn't even reach most of NY, let alone Jersey, which is why I'm bummed. I can't stand it, I can't hear Aimee on the radio unless it's the weekend on WXPN, Philly's AAA station, where they just featured the album for last week, which means they played the whole thing over the last week. So I have a devious idea. My local modern rock station, WHTG, has been a reasonably good supporter of Aimee over the years. Go and bug them to put Aimee on the station. it's feedback@1063.com. I'm going to. You don't need to give your address. Everyone in Jersey can hear her if you do. Especially now that she is Golden Globe nominated! Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Mon Dec 20 21:27:29 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA02809 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:27:29 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.2057c6e4 (4541) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:26:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.2057c6e4.25904d5e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:26:22 EST Subject: Re: Vindication at last!! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Well now we know, Madonna is a Hack, so is Orbit. She doesn't know who Love is, everyone knows who Arthur Lee and Love is. Andrea >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Mon Dec 20 21:51:30 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f186.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.186]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id VAA04282 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:51:30 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 91504 invoked by uid 0); 21 Dec 1999 03:50:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19991221035059.91503.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.161.162.172 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:50:59 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.161.162.172] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Y2K = AM Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:50:59 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Everyone just think Joni Mitchell's big surprise Grammy win a few years back. Aimee has paid her dues. It's time to throw her a bone. Well, someone else BESIDES Michael Penn, that is. This is going to be the first in a big year of recognitioin for Aimee who is holding her own in that talented Penn Clan. >From: markust@mindless.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Y2K = AM >Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:54:42 -0500 (EST) > >Paul, there are times I wonder what list I'm reading . You have enough >optimism for all of us! Here's to 2000, the year of Aimee. > >tim > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Salt5@aol.com Mon Dec 20 22:31:08 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA07165 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:31:07 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.58a2ef6b (4003) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:30:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.58a2ef6b.25905c66@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:30:30 EST Subject: Re: Golden Globe Nominations! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The Madonna song is also pretty good. I didn't see the movie so I have no idea how it fits in (if at all). >From Salt5@aol.com Mon Dec 20 22:34:23 1999 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA07446 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:34:22 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.c6be0a70 (4003) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:33:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.c6be0a70.25905d2d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:33:49 EST Subject: Re: supertramp (OT, somewhat) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Why is everybody so down on Supertramp? They made some fine records back in the days and they were quite good live. >From Salt5@aol.com Mon Dec 20 23:04:47 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA07977 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:04:47 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.68a348f8 (4003); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:04:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.68a348f8.2590644a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:04:10 EST Subject: She'll be riding six white horses (in a guilded cage) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN You guys are so unrealistic. Oscars and Globes and Glory, oh my! Personally, I hope that Aimee turns her back on all and sundry. Then things could get back to normal and I could let Mr. and Mrs. Penn move into the trailer in my back yard. I'd give them a cot and three hots per day too and all they'd ever have to do to earn their keep would be to play a short set for me each day at sunset. Okay, I'd give them Mondays off, okay? I'm not a hard guy. The in-laws would be welcome once in a while too but brother Chris would have to bring his own beer. >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 21 01:05:27 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id BAA22771 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 01:05:27 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.70d48297 (4322) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 02:04:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.70d48297.25908096@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 02:04:54 EST Subject: Amusing Aimee Experence To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Don't know if this really means anything but...when I went to buy some copies of Magnolia at my local music store, which isn't a chain store, to give as X-mass presents, I was told they were sold out. They had sold a lot but hadn't ordered many copies. I bet they were suprprised about this. Anyway Red Bank is doing it's part. Would have ordered the albums from the aimeemanndirect store, but I need these quickly so i really can't.Fortunally one of them I can buy the Magnolia after X-mass and give it then, my friend doesn't care. And I'm giving the other person a ten dollar gift certifcate from this record store, Jacks, that I hope she uses to buy Manglia. She's a fan. Andrea >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Tue Dec 21 04:27:46 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f34.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.34]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id EAA27663 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:27:45 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 97582 invoked by uid 0); 21 Dec 1999 10:27:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19991221102715.97581.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.161.162.191 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 02:27:14 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.161.162.191] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: survey says... Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 02:27:14 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN A guilty impulse prompted me to take the USA Today Golden Globe poll just to glimpse the results. The pop culture cattle who voted had Madonna leading Aimee Mann's SAVE ME 42% to 9% of the 340 votes cast. Though the public doesn't decide the winners, (thank god!) is anyone else tempted to go and pad the vote for Aimee?! I mean, she is practically tied for LAST in her category. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From davesdrums@yahoo.com Tue Dec 21 07:49:49 1999 Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (web118.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.99]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id HAA10908 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:49:48 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 25116 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Dec 1999 13:49:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19991221134944.25115.qmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [208.232.40.3] by web118.yahoomail.com; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 05:49:44 PST Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 05:49:44 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Lampel Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 649 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I went to ticketmaster (or ticketdisaster if you will) yesterday and they have a few dates they are already selling for Aimee Mann and Michael Penn! Needless to say I got a pair of great seats for the show here in Maryland Feb 7th!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com >From gfletcher@nac.net Tue Dec 21 08:11:13 1999 Received: from nac.net (tempest.nac.net [209.123.109.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id IAA12484 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:11:13 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 59900 invoked by uid 0); 21 Dec 1999 14:11:11 -0000 Received: from s33.dial3.new.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.50.133) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 21 Dec 1999 14:11:11 -0000 Message-ID: <385F8A54.DA25DA4C@nac.net> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:10:29 -0500 From: George Fletcher Reply-To: gfletcher@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee on WFUV References: <199912211200.GAA29078@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > Subject: Re: aimee on the radion > Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:18:02 EST > From: AWeiss4338@aol.com > To: sonichawk@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu > > I'm so jealous, Aimee on FUV, which is, for those who don't know a > AAA > station for NY that doesn't even reach most of NY, let alone Jersey, > which is > why I'm bummed. > I can't stand it, I can't hear Aimee on the radio unless it's the > weekend on > WXPN, Philly's AAA station, where they just featured the album for > last week, > which means they played the whole thing over the last week. > So I have a devious idea. My local modern rock station, WHTG, has > been a > reasonably good supporter of Aimee over the years. Go and bug them to > put > Aimee on the station. it's feedback@1063.com. I'm going to. You > don't need > to give your address. Everyone in Jersey can hear her if you do. > Especially > now that she is Golden Globe nominated! > Andrea > If you have cable TV, you might want to check with your cable operator in order to hear the wonderful WFUV..... Most cable companies carry area FM signals, and with about $5.00 worth of splitter stuff from Radio Shack, you can hook your stereo receiver's antenna port up to the your cable TV and pick up the FM signals they carry -- crystal clear. Here in Northwest Jersey, about 50 miles from NYC, my cable company carries most of the City's stations, including WFUV 90.7FM. So, I have no trouble listening to 'FUV, even though I'm almost in Pennsylvania! I'm sure other cable operators have it, too. Worth checking out! (And even if your cable company doesn't carry 'FUV, the improved reception overall makes this little procedure well worth the effort.....) Happy holidays to all fellow Aimee fans on the list! George >From Zabadak900@aol.com Tue Dec 21 09:19:49 1999 Received: from imo-d10.mx (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA17480 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:19:48 -0600 (CST) From: Zabadak900@aol.com Received: from Zabadak900@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.5ca79472 (4323) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:19:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.5ca79472.2590f472@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:19:14 EST Subject: Re: survey says... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I recall reading a, not very complementary, piece on the Golden Globes about one year ago. The article noted the paucity of pre-requs to be listed as a columnist eligible to vote in the Golden Globes. Recall that the G.G. is a poll amongst the "foreign press." Many of these people would probably confuse A.M. with Tomas Mann, for all they'd know/care. Consequently, I expect that Ciccone broad to walk away w the kudos. Oh well, Cyrinda >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Tue Dec 21 09:24:44 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA18002 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:24:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:30:59 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.118 [206.8.2.118] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 16DB464AB49511D3AE3C006097D4776C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:30:59 -0600 Date: 21 Dec 99 09:26:24 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: The real soundtrack To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991221093059.16db464ab49511d3ae3c006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: A855D6E9-B7B211D3-AE3C0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id JAA18003 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Matthew Southworth of the Embrionic mailing list has procured a copy of the Jon Brion "Magnolia" score along with a "screener" copy of the film. Everyone go out now and haunt the used CD stores in search of this gem (these gems?) before it disappears. Jack >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Tue Dec 21 09:34:38 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA18653 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:34:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:40:54 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.118 [206.8.2.118] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 16DB46A0B49511D3AE3C006097D4776C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:40:54 -0600 Date: 21 Dec 99 09:36:19 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: survey says... To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991221094054.16db46a0b49511d3ae3c006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: A855D8A4-B7B211D3-AE3C0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id JAA18654 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: survey says... Maybe "Save Me" should have been entitled "The Magic Mountain." Jack On 12/21/99, Cyrinda wrote: Recall that the G.G. is a poll amongst the "foreign press." Many of these people would probably confuse A.M. with Tomas Mann, for all they'd know/care. Consequently, I expect that Ciccone broad to walk away w the kudos. >From epw@mcmail.com Tue Dec 21 10:39:51 1999 Received: from cwcom.net (email.mcmail.com [195.44.0.150]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA22010 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:39:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from uxlfdlvk ([195.44.16.232]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:39:28 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01bf4bd0$10066ac0$e8102cc3@uxlfdlvk> From: "Edmund PW" To: References: <0.5ca79472.2590f472@aol.com> Subject: Re: survey says... Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:25:31 -0000 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Cyrinda mate. I take very strong exception to your remarks about 'the "foreign press." Many of these people would probably confuse A.M. with Tomas Mann, for all they'd know/care.' Get real, will you. The world doesn't revolve around the US of (expletive deleted) A. Aimee Mann has many fans outside her own country and the rest of the world is far less in thrall to the commercial obsessions of Hollywood than Americans (as a whole) are. If anything that makes it far more likely that Aimee would win a GG than an Oscar. But, frankly, does anyone care whether she wins it or not? I'd be very happy for her, of course, but it doesn't really mean anything. >From Salt5@aol.com Tue Dec 21 11:28:23 1999 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA26301 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:28:23 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.8cc6d304 (4258); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:27:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8cc6d304.25911290@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:27:44 EST Subject: wanted: audience, must smell good and clap hard To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The drums, the drums, stop the drums! CONFIRMED DATES: Monday, February 7: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live in Annapolis, MD. Tickets are on sale now, $24.75 each. Call 410-481-SEAT. Tuesday, February 8: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live at the Birchmere in Virginia. Tickets are not on sale yet. Somebody please post to the list when the window opens! Friday, February 11: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn, live at the Theater for the Living Arts in Philadelphia, tickets are $31.25 each. Call 215-336-2000. SUSPECTED DATES: New York New Haven Boston Isn't life great? John >From lex@inch.com Tue Dec 21 11:46:21 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA27001 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:46:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (oldshell.inch.com [207.240.140.252]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with SMTP id MAA00658; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:46:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Lex Marks" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: lex@inch.com To: Salt5@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, Salt5@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:46:20 +500 Subject: Re: wanted: audience, must smell good and clap hard Message-id: <385fbcec.78e2.0@inch.com> X-User-Info: 192.193.195.25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: lex@inch.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Tickets for the 3 shows mentioned below as well as an additional one in Oregon (Alladin Theatre) are on sale right now at www.ticketmaster.com Ciao and Happy New Year! >The drums, the drums, stop the drums! > >CONFIRMED DATES: > >Monday, February 7: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live in Annapolis, MD. >Tickets are on sale now, $24.75 each. Call 410-481-SEAT. > >Tuesday, February 8: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live at the Birchmere in >Virginia. Tickets are not on sale yet. Somebody please post to the list when >the window opens! > >Friday, February 11: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn, live at the Theater for the >Living Arts in Philadelphia, tickets are $31.25 each. Call 215-336-2000. > >SUSPECTED DATES: > >New York >New Haven >Boston > >Isn't life great? > >John > > >From lex@inch.com Tue Dec 21 11:52:37 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA27204 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:52:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (oldshell.inch.com [207.240.140.252]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with SMTP id MAA01787; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:52:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Lex Marks" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: lex@inch.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, Salt5@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:52:32 +500 Subject: Re: wanted: audience, must smell good and clap hard Message-id: <385fbe60.794a.0@inch.com> X-User-Info: 192.193.195.25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: lex@inch.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Correction (oops): Tix in Virginia are not on sale yet. I'll keep checking (as I'm sure we all will). So long, Lex >Tickets for the 3 shows mentioned below as well as an additional one in >Oregon (Alladin Theatre) are on sale right now at >www.ticketmaster.com >Ciao and Happy New Year! > >>The drums, the drums, stop the drums! >> >>CONFIRMED DATES: >> >>Monday, February 7: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live in Annapolis, MD. > >>Tickets are on sale now, $24.75 each. Call 410-481-SEAT. >> >>Tuesday, February 8: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live at the Birchmere >in >>Virginia. Tickets are not on sale yet. Somebody please post to the list >when >>the window opens! >> >>Friday, February 11: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn, live at the Theater >for the >>Living Arts in Philadelphia, tickets are $31.25 each. Call 215-336-2000. > >> >>SUSPECTED DATES: >> >>New York >>New Haven >>Boston >> >>Isn't life great? >> >>John >> >> > >From tyson@tco.net Tue Dec 21 11:59:31 1999 Received: from tco1.tco.net (IDENT:root@tco1.tco.net [209.76.64.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA27559 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:59:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from tyson (pm-3-18.tco.net [209.76.64.175]) by tco1.tco.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA04019 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:59:23 -0800 Message-ID: <003801bf4c41$7771dfc0$d4404cd1@tyson> From: "Tyson & Chrissy" To: Subject: Woo Who!! Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:57:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01BF4BFE.6895FE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BF4BFE.6895FE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got me two tix for the Jan. 28th Aimee show. Is the Aladdin = Theater a pretty good venue? Any Mannlisters gonna be there? Tyson ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BF4BFE.6895FE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just got me two tix for the Jan. 28th = Aimee=20 show.  Is the Aladdin Theater a pretty good venue?  Any = Mannlisters=20 gonna be there?
Tyson
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BF4BFE.6895FE20-- >From Kenableken@aol.com Tue Dec 21 12:10:17 1999 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA27937 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:10:17 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.1cb4b313 (5699) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:09:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.1cb4b313.25911c68@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:09:44 EST Subject: Re: Woo Who!! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I'm going to try to be completely irresponsible and fly out for the PDX show.... >From 102573.2640@compuserve.com Tue Dec 21 12:40:16 1999 Received: from spdmgaaa.compuserve.com (ds-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.206.134]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA29672 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:40:15 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id NAA11565 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:39:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:39:12 -0500 From: Sidney Robert Stone <102573.2640@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: survey says... Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu To: "INTERNET:mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" Message-ID: <199912211339_MC2-91F6-7E19@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id MAA29673 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Sender: Sidney Robert Stone <102573.2640@compuserve.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hello, Regarding Cyrinda's comment about the "foreign press"...it is true that the world doesn't revolve around the US(although just coming back from Costa Rica and seeing a McDonald's, KFC and of all things a Taco Bell in San Jose gives one pause). However, it is well known in the entertainment business that the Hollywood Foreign Press Association is a sham group that pretty much just mooches off of the studios. The group comprises of about a 100 "journalists" who are famous for the amount of studio junkets they go on. They have had several scandals most famously Pia Zadora's husband buying the "Best New Actress" award a few years back. Nobody really takes the Golden Globes seriously except the studios who use the awards to market their movies. That's why it's the best awards show to go to or watch because everyone shows up drunk and has a rip roaring good time as opposed to the seriousness of the Oscars. I'm sure Cyrinda wasn't ripping the foreign press in general, just this one group in particular. SRS >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Tue Dec 21 13:12:23 1999 Received: from blacksun.usfca.edu (root@blacksun.usfca.edu [138.202.192.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA01646 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:12:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.40.104] (dialup-40-104.usfca.edu [138.202.40.104]) by blacksun.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27914 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:11:14 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.c6be0a70.25905d2d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:14:52 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: supertramp (OT, somewhat) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN i'm not down on supertramp - the mention of them just made me wonder in what context the songs appear in the movie - and just wondered "why Supertramp?" - not - "BLECH, _why_ Supertramp, patooey." bb >Why is everybody so down on Supertramp? They made some fine records back in >the days and they were quite good live. Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 21 13:15:23 1999 Received: from imo-d10.mx (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA01718 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:15:22 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.3baaea0c (4320) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:14:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3baaea0c.25912ba8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:14:48 EST Subject: Re: survey says... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN What would expect from USA Today, no offence to those who read it but they don't know anything. Andrea >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Tue Dec 21 13:35:17 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA02920 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:35:16 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.1daddbdc (4320) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:34:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.1daddbdc.25913050@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:34:40 EST Subject: Re: survey says... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have one little pet peeve about the Golden Globes: Why wasn't REM nominated for The Great Beyond for Man In The Moon. Great song, would be more worthy compatation for Aimee then Mad-Donna :) or Babyface and Phil Collens. Andrea >From Zabadak900@aol.com Tue Dec 21 13:40:50 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA03626 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:40:48 -0600 (CST) From: Zabadak900@aol.com Received: from Zabadak900@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.55631d49 (4233) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:40:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.55631d49.2591319a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:40:10 EST Subject: Re: survey says... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Thank you for clarifying my statements. I was indeed specifically referring to the "Hollywood Foreign Press Ass." Should my comments have been misconstrued, I apologize for leading y'all astray. Cyr >From Larry.Iaquinta@anheuser-busch.com Tue Dec 21 14:07:55 1999 Received: from gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com (gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com [151.145.250.252]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id OAA06476 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:07:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com; id OAA18754; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:10:01 -0600 Received: from stlexggtw002-pozzoli.fw-users.busch.com(151.145.101.130) by gatewaya.anheuser-busch.com via smap (V5.0) id xma018665; Tue, 21 Dec 99 14:09:04 -0600 Received: from stlabcexg004.anheuser-busch.com ([151.145.101.160]) by 151.145.101.130 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 20:06:27 0000 (GMT) Received: by STLABCEXG004 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:07:21 -0600 Message-ID: <299BF5F5EF5ED31196760008C7D9AE5D455AB4@STLABCEXG022> From: "Iaquinta, Larry" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RE: wanted: audience, must smell good and clap hard Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:06:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Maybe someday she will do a show in St. Louis. I know a lot of fans out here. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lex Marks [SMTP:lex@inch.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:46 AM > To: Salt5@aol.com; mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Salt5@aol.com > Subject: Re: wanted: audience, must smell good and clap hard > > Tickets for the 3 shows mentioned below as well as an additional one in > Oregon (Alladin Theatre) are on sale right now at > www.ticketmaster.com > Ciao and Happy New Year! > > >The drums, the drums, stop the drums! > > > >CONFIRMED DATES: > > > >Monday, February 7: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live in Annapolis, MD. > > >Tickets are on sale now, $24.75 each. Call 410-481-SEAT. > > > >Tuesday, February 8: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live at the Birchmere > in > >Virginia. Tickets are not on sale yet. Somebody please post to the list > when > >the window opens! > > > >Friday, February 11: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn, live at the Theater > for the > >Living Arts in Philadelphia, tickets are $31.25 each. Call 215-336-2000. > > > > >SUSPECTED DATES: > > > >New York > >New Haven > >Boston > > > >Isn't life great? > > > >John > > > > > >From Kenableken@aol.com Tue Dec 21 14:27:39 1999 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA07626 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:27:38 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.8500f6c0 (3938) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:27:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8500f6c0.25913c95@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:27:01 EST Subject: Re: survey says... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The Golden Globes have actually shaped up and are taken far more seriously these days than back in the Pia Zadora era. Of course, that doesn't mean they won't have Pia performing a medley of the nominated songs... >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Tue Dec 21 14:32:28 1999 Received: from blacksun.usfca.edu (root@blacksun.usfca.edu [138.202.192.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA07867 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:32:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.40.104] (dialup-40-104.usfca.edu [138.202.40.104]) by blacksun.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29495 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:31:18 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <299BF5F5EF5ED31196760008C7D9AE5D455AB4@STLABCEXG022> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:34:56 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: RE: wanted: audience, must smell good and clap hard Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN aimee and michael are playing in San Francisco on Tues. Jan. 25th at Bimbo's 365 club - tix go on sale next week, $20 (thats from the club - no heinous service fee). hoping aimee will be wearing her golden globe!! >Maybe someday she will do a show in St. Louis. I know a lot of fans out here. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lex Marks [SMTP:lex@inch.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:46 AM >> To: Salt5@aol.com; mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Salt5@aol.com >> Subject: Re: wanted: audience, must smell good and clap hard >> >> Tickets for the 3 shows mentioned below as well as an additional one in >> Oregon (Alladin Theatre) are on sale right now at >> www.ticketmaster.com >> Ciao and Happy New Year! >> >> >The drums, the drums, stop the drums! >> > >> >CONFIRMED DATES: >> > >> >Monday, February 7: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live in Annapolis, MD. >> >> >Tickets are on sale now, $24.75 each. Call 410-481-SEAT. >> > >> >Tuesday, February 8: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live at the Birchmere >> in >> >Virginia. Tickets are not on sale yet. Somebody please post to the list >> when >> >the window opens! >> > >> >Friday, February 11: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn, live at the Theater >> for the >> >Living Arts in Philadelphia, tickets are $31.25 each. Call 215-336-2000. >> >> > >> >SUSPECTED DATES: >> > >> >New York >> >New Haven >> >Boston >> > >> >Isn't life great? >> > >> >John >> > >> > >> Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Tue Dec 21 14:45:12 1999 Received: from blacksun.usfca.edu (root@blacksun.usfca.edu [138.202.192.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA08765 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:45:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.40.104] (dialup-40-104.usfca.edu [138.202.40.104]) by blacksun.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29716 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:44:02 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.8500f6c0.25913c95@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:47:40 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: survey says... Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >The Golden Globes have actually shaped up and are taken far more seriously >these days than back in the Pia Zadora era. Of course, that doesn't mean >they won't have Pia performing a medley of the nominated songs... ......does anyone else remember years ago when they hired Ann Reinking to sing (and subsequently butcher) Phil Collins nominated song for "Against all Odds" on the OScars - this after he said he'd be more than happy to do it himself.....those Hollywood bigshots - go figure.....i think if i saw/heard Pia Zadora singing "Save Me," it would cause me irreparable frontal lobe damage and i would lapse immediately inta a catatonic state. Go Aimee Go, GO, GO! Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From UFOTUFO101@aol.com Tue Dec 21 14:47:02 1999 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA08881 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:47:02 -0600 (CST) From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Received: from UFOTUFO101@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.30b26ef3 (4315) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:46:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.30b26ef3.25914124@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:46:28 EST Subject: star ledger review To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN hey guys... the new jersey paper "the star legder" printed this in their "today" section on mon. they were reviewing their fave. pop albums of '99 here it is: 3."Magnolia: music from the motion picture" Nine of this soundtrack's 13 songs are by Aimee Mann, so it's pretty much a new Mann album, and an excellent one at that. Like the two other albums she's released since leaving the pop group 'Til Tuesday, this is a collection of hook-filled songs chronicling the ups and downs of sometimes satisfying, sometimes disappointing but always complicated relationships. The arrangements are inventive but rarely get in the way of Mann's fragile but calm voice. hope this is of interest -gina >From lex@inch.com Tue Dec 21 14:50:43 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA09187 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:50:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (oldshell.inch.com [207.240.140.252]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with SMTP id PAA04116; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:50:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Lex Marks" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: lex@inch.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Cc: scholars@bellatlantic.net Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:50:41 +500 Subject: Virginia tix on sale now Message-id: <385fe821.80af.0@inch.com> X-User-Info: 192.193.195.25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: lex@inch.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Tickets for Aimee and Michael at Birchmere Music Hall in Alexandria, VA are on sale now at www.ticketmaster.com. >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Tue Dec 21 15:01:49 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA10454 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:01:48 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:08:00 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.118 [206.8.2.118] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 16DB4CBCB49511D3AE3C006097D4776C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:07:59 -0600 Date: 21 Dec 99 15:03:23 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: survey says... To: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991221150800.16db4cbcb49511d3ae3c006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: A855EBB7-B7B211D3-AE3C0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id PAA10455 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: Re: survey says... Okay, how about Phil Collins singing "Save Me"? Jack On 12/21/99, Beth Bachtold wrote: ......does anyone else remember years ago when they hired Ann Reinking to sing (and subsequently butcher) Phil Collins nominated song for "Against all Odds" on the OScars - this after he said he'd be more than happy to do it himself.....those Hollywood bigshots - go figure.....i think if i saw/heard Pia Zadora singing "Save Me," it would cause me irreparable frontal lobe damage and i would lapse immediately inta a catatonic state. >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Tue Dec 21 15:35:51 1999 Received: from blacksun.usfca.edu (root@blacksun.usfca.edu [138.202.192.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA13430 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:35:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.40.104] (dialup-40-141.usfca.edu [138.202.40.141]) by blacksun.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA30602 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:34:41 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:38:19 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: coincidences Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN was thinking about the email the other day to the list about how if aimee, michael and sean (if he shows) sitt together at GG"s - then we will most likely see alot of aimee and her beautiful self - good press; then i realized/remembered that aimee's brother in law - sean - is also the ex-husband of fellow nominee, Madonna! that should make for an interesting post-GG ceremony party. okay, enough gossip! Aimee's vibe alone is enough to draw every camera in the place to her. can't wait to see her win!!! Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Tue Dec 21 17:08:27 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f208.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.208]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id RAA24593 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:08:27 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 75923 invoked by uid 0); 21 Dec 1999 23:07:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19991221230756.75922.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.134.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:07:56 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.134.36] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Cc: delvin@kmtt.com Subject: Aimee Mann, Story at Eleven! Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:07:56 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Score one for Paul. Doing my best to get Aimee all the free publicity I can muster! I have CC'ed Mr. Dave Elvin at the Seattle radio station that is very Aimee friendly, KMTT. Dave, I am counting on you for HEAVY aimee rotation, THINK GOO GOO DOLLS HEAVY. ;-) Sponsors and programming be damned! Also, call Hausman and get Aimee on your show!! My work is never done! ;-) >From: Kevin Raub >To: 'Paul Barras' >Subject: RE: Aimee Mann News >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:04:59 -0500 > >Just talked to Michael ...doing something today ... > >thanks > >kev > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul Barras [mailto:sonichawk@hotmail.com] >Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 4:49 PM >To: kevinr@allstarnews.com >Subject: RE: Aimee Mann News > > >Kevin, > >Have you tried Michael at his New York office? (212)274-0020. Give him a >call. I put a call in to him, but he will probably return calls from the >press more quickly. Thanks again. Aimee needs all the publicity she can >get. Consider it a PUBLIC SERVICE. THey don't know what they are missing. > >Happy Holidays, >Paul Barras > >P.S. The Seattle and Portland dates are set. You could probably also >confirm > >with the Showbox and Aladdin directly. Bimbos in San Francisco is also set >on the 26th. Michael Penn has a new cd due out on Feb 1, 2000 which will >coincide with his appearances in concert with Aimee in New York. Get the >scoop from Hausman. Do a picture feature of Aimee in an upcoming emailing!! >She is a hot commodity!! > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Salt5@aol.com Tue Dec 21 18:20:15 1999 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA02800 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:20:14 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.4fc3af95 (4447); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:19:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.4fc3af95.2591731b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:19:39 EST Subject: Details on Golden Globes? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN When does this air? Where does this air? I think maybe I'll stay home that night. Thank you. >From Kenableken@aol.com Tue Dec 21 18:23:24 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA05203 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:23:24 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.45c624cf (4238) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:21:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.45c624cf.2591738d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:21:33 EST Subject: Re: Details on Golden Globes? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Sunday January somethingith, NBC-TV >From Gseif@aol.com Tue Dec 21 18:47:03 1999 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA06026 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:47:02 -0600 (CST) From: Gseif@aol.com Received: from Gseif@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.17f69a64 (4569) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:46:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.17f69a64.25917962@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:46:26 EST Subject: Re: survey says... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Although it's true that the Golden Globe's were a bit of a farce several years ago, they have since then seriously cleaned up there act. It's now considered one of the more respected awards shows. I wouldn't take the show or it's prestige too lightly. It is now back on Network Television, when a few years ago you could only find it on Cable. It's a show that will (hopefully) give wonderful exposure for Aimee. Gregory >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Tue Dec 21 19:12:02 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f11.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id TAA08296 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:11:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 11655 invoked by uid 0); 22 Dec 1999 01:11:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19991222011128.11654.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.134.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:11:28 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.134.36] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: info Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:11:28 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Golden Globes broadcast on January 23rd. Infinitely Blue is about to get bigger and better too.. Salt needs to share the special news about a deal he worked out with Michael Hausman for new unrecordable material at Infinitely Blue. We are going to be able hear fresh material from time to time at his site. Also, yes I will be in Portland and Seattle for the shows, Tyson. I would be up for the Annapolis (Salt, I was going to take you up on checking out those 200 Aimee cds) show if I weren't going to be at the Pro Bowl. Andrea, I will be back on the mainland on Feb 10th so I might try to make the Philly show. Will you be there so we can hang out? >From: "Tyson & Chrissy" >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: >Subject: Woo Who!! >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:57:43 -0800 > >I just got me two tix for the Jan. 28th Aimee show. Is the Aladdin Theater >a pretty good venue? Any Mannlisters gonna be there? >Tyson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From epw@mcmail.com Tue Dec 21 21:00:22 1999 Received: from cwcom.net (email.mcmail.com [195.44.0.150]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA21222 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:00:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from uxlfdlvk ([195.44.16.60]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:59:59 +0000 Message-ID: <005001bf4c26$c0762660$3c102cc3@uxlfdlvk> From: "Edmund PW" To: References: <0.8cc6d304.25911290@aol.com> Subject: Re: wanted: audience, must smell good and clap hard Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:38:25 -0000 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Life would be a lot greater if she played at least one gig THIS side of the Atlantic Ocean!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: 21 December 1999 17:27 Subject: wanted: audience, must smell good and clap hard > The drums, the drums, stop the drums! > > CONFIRMED DATES: > > Monday, February 7: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live in Annapolis, MD. > Tickets are on sale now, $24.75 each. Call 410-481-SEAT. > > Tuesday, February 8: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn live at the Birchmere in > Virginia. Tickets are not on sale yet. Somebody please post to the list when > the window opens! > > Friday, February 11: Aimee Mann and Michael Penn, live at the Theater for the > Living Arts in Philadelphia, tickets are $31.25 each. Call 215-336-2000. > > SUSPECTED DATES: > > New York > New Haven > Boston > > Isn't life great? > > John > >From skilroy@earthlink.net Tue Dec 21 23:00:55 1999 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA29156 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:00:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.23.220] (1Cust220.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.23.220]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06731 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:00:52 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:00:50 -0500 Subject: Michael Penn info From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Again because Paul said I should here is info on how to join the Michael Pennlist (Pennpals? that's Paul's suggestion). You can join the list by visiting the following URL: http://www.onelist.com/community/michaelpennlist On the right hand side, there is a button labeled, "join community". Follow the instructions and you're in. If you have trouble just send me an e-mail (skilroy@earthlink.net) with your name, email addy, etc. Also tell me if you want daily messages or a digest. We're currently up to 47 members which is not bad for 3 months. We need more people who are willing to talk. (Thanks Paul and Andrea, we need you) Michael's label recently added the list to their website. Here is the information on Michael's new album. It is called MP4 (Days since a lost time accident). The new single is called "Lucky Ones". It is currently being played on WXPN here in Philadelphia, and according to Michael's management has been released to other stations (call and request it.) An MP3 of the song is available once you join the list...it's in the files area. OK that's it. Hopefully I haven't been too much of a bother. Spencer >From skilroy@earthlink.net Tue Dec 21 23:05:07 1999 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA29427 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:05:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.23.220] (1Cust220.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.23.220]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14421; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:05:04 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:04:58 -0500 Subject: AIMEE MANN/MICHAEL PENN IN PHILLY!!!! From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist , Pennlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Here is the info I have currently - Aimee Mann and Michael Penn at the TLA on South Street on Friday, February 11. I'm told tickets are not on sale, but I'll let you know. Check out www.electricfactory.com, but I'll keep everyone posted. SL >From edieholmes@yahoo.com Tue Dec 21 23:19:13 1999 Received: from web901.mail.yahoo.com (web901.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.76]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id XAA29668 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:19:12 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 5259 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Dec 1999 05:19:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19991222051911.5258.qmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.252.174.73] by web901.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:19:11 PST Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:19:11 -0800 (PST) From: Edie Holmes Subject: Hello again... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi there. You might remember me from a few months ago. I'd asked someone to post mp3 samples of the new Aimee ep somewhere and I got a number of angry responses. First off, my apologies. I just wanted to know what it sounded like before I bought it but I understand why everyone was angry and I'm sorry. Second, I've bought the EP and completely love it! When does the full length drop? Third, also bought Magnolia. Totally into it! The new tracks are great! But about Magnolia, are the versions of the older songs new recordings or the old versions? Also, is Jon Brion doing production on the new record or is it Michael? Another good question for ya, what happened to Jon Brion's album? I saw an ad for it in a magazine but it never showed up in stores. Is it not going to be released? Will there be an import release? Any advance copies floating around? WHAT'S UP WITH IT?!?!?!?! Thanks in advance for the info and to Aimee, THANK YOU FOR THE MUSIC AND EVERYTHING! edieholmes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com >From skilroy@earthlink.net Tue Dec 21 23:20:55 1999 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA29722 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:20:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.23.220] (1Cust220.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.23.220]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12673 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:20:53 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:20:51 -0500 Subject: FW: random thoughts From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <991220122033CN.17742@weba8.iname.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN BTW - Apparantly Julianna will have two cd's released next year. Just an FYI. Just got her "Bed" cd, like it so far. sl ---------- From: markust@mindless.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:20:33 -0500 (EST) To: aimee mann Subject: random thoughts Deathly is wonderful. I especially like the background vox by Julianna Hatfield and Jon Brion. >From skilroy@earthlink.net Tue Dec 21 23:23:49 1999 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA29822 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:23:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.23.220] (1Cust220.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.23.220]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17638 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:23:46 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:23:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Golden Globe Nominations! From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0.a9159efe.258fe85b@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I have to second this, but not for a Golden Globe. Hold up, just what is a Golden Globe anyway? Maybe she is worth it ;) sl > From: Kenableken@aol.com > > I have to confess to kinda liking the Madonna tune, > though I'm always a bit skeptical of her writing credits. >From skilroy@earthlink.net Tue Dec 21 23:30:38 1999 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA29984 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:30:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.23.220] (1Cust220.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.23.220]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29374; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:30:35 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:30:30 -0500 Subject: FW: aimee on the radion From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist , Pennlist Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0.bee1d8e2.25904b6a@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN WXPN has a webcast at http://www.xpn.org, In the last couple of weeks I've heard a lot of Aimee plus a few repeats of MP's new tune ---------- From: AWeiss4338@aol.com > I can't stand it, I can't hear Aimee on the radio unless it's the weekend on > WXPN, Philly's AAA station, where they just featured the album for last week, > which means they played the whole thing over the last week. > So I have a devious idea. >From skilroy@earthlink.net Tue Dec 21 23:37:05 1999 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA00222 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:37:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.23.220] (1Cust220.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.23.220]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09685; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:37:03 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:37:01 -0500 Subject: AIMEE MANN/MICHAEL PENN IN PHILLY!!!! From: Spencer Lewis To: Mannlist , Pennlist Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN New info - tickets are available on the electricfactory site. sl Here is the info I have currently - Aimee Mann and Michael Penn at the TLA on South Street on Friday, February 11. I'm told tickets are not on sale, but I'll let you know. Check out www.electricfactory.com, but I'll keep everyone posted. SL >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 22 00:24:23 1999 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id AAA03085 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:24:22 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id h.0.891af635 (2619); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:23:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.891af635.2591c873@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:23:47 EST Subject: Re: [michaelpennlist] FW: aimee on the radion To: michaelpennlist@onelist.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Cool about Michael's new single, I should hear it when I'm in XPN's range later this week. This going to sound a little werid, but it's a little wild talking about another Michael, that's my brother's name. Andrea >From Salt5@aol.com Wed Dec 22 04:20:17 1999 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id EAA13498 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:20:16 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.19ef369f (3890); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:19:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.19ef369f.2591ffbe@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:19:42 EST Subject: The face that launched a thousand spoons To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN DATELINE: HOLLYWOOD, DECEMBER 21, 1999 AIMEE MANN AND MICHAEL PENN LIVE AT LARGO Aimee Mann and Michael Penn played their last set of the year at Largo tonight. Patrick Warren returned to play keyboards after his recent tour with Melissa Etheridge. Also on hand were the usual suspects, Buddy, Joe and Michael Paines. There was good news and bad news tonight. The good news, Aimee was positively glowing when she came out on stage. The bad news, she was running a fever. More good news, she played a powerful, compact set that included several of her best new songs. IT'S NOT SAFE: Acoustic, strong and clear. SAVE ME: One of her best songs, a signature tune. CALLING IT QUITS: Backed by a canned rhythm track. Buddy really soared on the leads. GHOST WORLD: This song gets better and better for me. Buddy's guitar is just right. JACOB MARLEY'S CHAIN: Michael Paines added violin and Michael Penn played drums. WISE UP: Passionate and right to the point. Buddy and Michael Penn provided harmonies. YOU DO: The audience played along with spoons and forks and glasses and we got it right! Listening to this amazing chorus of silver tonight, I wondered what in the hell the people at Interscope were thinking when they passed on these songs. YOU DO is easily one of Aimee's best-ever tunes and I've had it stuck in my brain for weeks now. Michael's set was strong too. LONG WAY DOWN BABY DON'T WANT ME AROUND HIGH TIME OUT OF MY HANDS: Aimee sang the harmonies and they sounded like angels together. PERFECT CANDIDATE BUCKET BRIGADE LUCKY ONE NO MYTH: Aimee and Michael shared the lead vocals. Also noted: There was a copy of "Clownhenge" on Ebay recently that went for $50 bucks. Buddy says that he's going to have some more pressed in time for the winter tour of the east coast. And finally: Idle patter or the pitter patter of little feet? You make the call. Mary Lynn, Aimee's comic inner voice between songs, blurted out tonight that she was pregnant. She was in character as Aimee at the time. The energy got very weird on stage for a couple of seconds and then Mary Lynn backed up and tried to smooth over the gaff with Aimee. It didn't work. Hey, I've heard Mary Lynn spout some pretty weird shit before. Maybe she was just going for the laugh. Maybe-I don't know. I'm just telling you what happened on stage tonight at Largo. Paint your own pictures. Watching the show, John >From Salt5@aol.com Wed Dec 22 04:41:59 1999 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id EAA13890 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:41:58 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.6c5d4c21 (3890); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:41:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6c5d4c21.259204ce@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:41:18 EST Subject: Christmas Cheer To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Paul mentioned Infinitely Blue morphing into something new... It's true. IB looks very different now. I had hoped to finish all the links on the new site before I left home for these last few Aimee shows but it didn't happen. Yet. I return home on Wednesday and I hope to have the RealAudio server linked up by Christmas eve. Keep watching the list for the next couple of days and I'll post a link if I can make the stream flow. I have RealProducer and FrontPage running on Interland. Now would be a wonderful time for you tech gurus to stand up and be counted. Any thoughts on how to smoothly upload the audio to the Interland RealAudio server? Please contact me off list. Audio? What? That's right, INFINITELY BLUE just went monthly and every "issue" features a new link to RADIO AIMEE. Tune in often because we'll feature plenty of rare songs and live performances by Aimee Mann. We'll also share unique material by Buddy Judge, Clayton Scobel, Jon Brion, Brian Stevens and many more. You won't be able to make digital recordings of these performances but they sound really good on most computers. This month's featured track is Jacob Marley's Chain, recorded live in a small club setting with Jon Brion. We also have a unique secret track for you but if I told you any more, it wouldn't be a secret, would it? Isn't life great? John >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Wed Dec 22 05:03:13 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f41.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id FAA14122 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:03:12 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 96493 invoked by uid 0); 22 Dec 1999 11:02:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19991222110242.96492.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.165.135.55 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 03:02:42 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.165.135.55] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: A True Mann-Penn original? Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 03:02:42 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN positively glowing and running a fever, add to that the pregnant comment gaffe... could we have a potentially very very very talented Mann-Penn progeny en route? >From: Salt5@aol.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >CC: Salt5@aol.com >Subject: The face that launched a thousand spoons >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 05:19:42 EST > >DATELINE: HOLLYWOOD, DECEMBER 21, 1999 >AIMEE MANN AND MICHAEL PENN LIVE AT LARGO > >Aimee Mann and Michael Penn played their last set of the year at Largo >tonight. Patrick Warren returned to play keyboards after his recent tour >with >Melissa Etheridge. Also on hand were the usual suspects, Buddy, Joe and >Michael Paines. > >There was good news and bad news tonight. The good news, Aimee was >positively >glowing when she came out on stage. The bad news, she was running a fever. >More good news, she played a powerful, compact set that included several of >her best new songs. > >IT'S NOT SAFE: Acoustic, strong and clear. >SAVE ME: One of her best songs, a signature tune. >CALLING IT QUITS: Backed by a canned rhythm track. Buddy really soared on >the >leads. >GHOST WORLD: This song gets better and better for me. Buddy's guitar is >just >right. >JACOB MARLEY'S CHAIN: Michael Paines added violin and Michael Penn played >drums. >WISE UP: Passionate and right to the point. Buddy and Michael Penn provided >harmonies. >YOU DO: The audience played along with spoons and forks and glasses and we >got it right! Listening to this amazing chorus of silver tonight, I >wondered >what in the hell the people at Interscope were thinking when they passed on >these songs. YOU DO is easily one of Aimee's best-ever tunes and I've had >it >stuck in my brain for weeks now. > >Michael's set was strong too. >LONG WAY DOWN >BABY DON'T WANT ME AROUND >HIGH TIME >OUT OF MY HANDS: Aimee sang the harmonies and they sounded like angels >together. >PERFECT CANDIDATE >BUCKET BRIGADE >LUCKY ONE >NO MYTH: Aimee and Michael shared the lead vocals. > >Also noted: There was a copy of "Clownhenge" on Ebay recently that went for >$50 bucks. Buddy says that he's going to have some more pressed in time for >the winter tour of the east coast. > >And finally: Idle patter or the pitter patter of little feet? You make the >call. Mary Lynn, Aimee's comic inner voice between songs, blurted out >tonight >that she was pregnant. She was in character as Aimee at the time. The >energy >got very weird on stage for a couple of seconds and then Mary Lynn backed >up >and tried to smooth over the gaff with Aimee. It didn't work. Hey, I've >heard >Mary Lynn spout some pretty weird shit before. Maybe she was just going for >the laugh. Maybe-I don't know. I'm just telling you what happened on stage >tonight at Largo. Paint your own pictures. > >Watching the show, > >John > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From WillTommy@aol.com Wed Dec 22 06:39:49 1999 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id GAA22605 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 06:39:48 -0600 (CST) From: WillTommy@aol.com Received: from WillTommy@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.7ae70fc0 (4421) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:39:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.7ae70fc0.25922083@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:39:31 EST Subject: Re: Details on Golden Globes? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 55 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Sunday night, January 23 >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Wed Dec 22 10:52:34 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA04501 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:52:32 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:57:49 -0600 Received: from 206.8.2.118 [206.8.2.118] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 9505EEB1B80B11D3AE3C006097D4776C for plus 1 more; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:57:48 -0600 Date: 22 Dec 99 10:53:08 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: The face that launched a thousand spoons To: Salt5 CC: mannlist X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-id: <19991222105749.9505eeb1b80b11d3ae3c006097d4776c.in@mail.clynch.com> X-SLUIDL: 0D38B5C4-B88011D3-AE3C0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id KAA04502 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Reply to: re: The face that launched a thousand spoons Isn't Mary Lynn Jon Brion's longtime significant other? Maybe Mary Lynn knows something she's not supposed to know. Or maybe not. She tends to work without a net. Jack On 12/22/99, Salt5 wrote: Mary Lynn, Aimee's comic inner voice between songs, blurted out tonight that she was pregnant. She was in character as Aimee at the time. The energy got very weird on stage for a couple of seconds and then Mary Lynn backed up and tried to smooth over the gaff with Aimee. It didn't work. Hey, I've heard Mary Lynn spout some pretty weird shit before. Maybe she was just going for the laugh. Maybe-I don't know. >From lex@inch.com Wed Dec 22 12:09:52 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA11043 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:09:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (oldshell.inch.com [207.240.140.252]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with SMTP id NAA05996 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:09:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Lex Marks" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: lex@inch.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:09:50 +500 Subject: Scoop on NYC Show! Message-id: <386113ee.9463.0@inch.com> X-User-Info: 192.193.195.25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: lex@inch.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Mann Fanns: Aimee will be playing at Joe's Pub on 2/15,16,17. This space is part of the larger Public Theatre on Lafayette St., between E. 4th and Astor Place. I've seen spoken word at this venue and let me tell you, it is REALLY small. I don't think it can handle more than 150-200 absolute max. Tickets are not on sale yet; I've gotten a bit of a run-around between the box office and telecharge. So far they have tickets for shows at the Pub only till the end of January. There is no reserved seating at this space, so anyone planning on seeing this should definitely arrive early. Tickets will cost $30. Guess that's all; when I saw her at Tramps last August the place was packed with a capacity at least 3-4 times that of Joe's Pub. It will be interesting to see her for the second time in a much smaller and intimate space. >From lex@inch.com Wed Dec 22 12:25:08 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA11721 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:25:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (oldshell.inch.com [207.240.140.252]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with SMTP id NAA08678 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:25:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Lex Marks" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: lex@inch.com To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:25:07 +500 Subject: A little more about NYC Message-id: <38611783.94cb.0@inch.com> X-User-Info: 192.193.195.25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: lex@inch.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Joe's Pub Box Office #'s are 212-539-8777 (recorded info), and 212-539-8778 (to speak to a human). The woman I spoke with said she thought that tix would be sold exclusively through telecharge (NY # 212-239-6200), but she wasn't 100% certain about it. Telecharge has no information as of yet. I'll keep y'all posted. >From ElizaS33@aol.com Wed Dec 22 12:42:43 1999 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA12803 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:42:34 -0600 (CST) From: ElizaS33@aol.com Received: from ElizaS33@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.d52a6c09 (5702) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:41:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.d52a6c09.25927571@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:41:53 EST Subject: re: The face that launched a thousand spoons To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >>Isn't Mary Lynn Jon Brion's longtime significant other? Maybe Mary Lynn knows something she's not supposed to know.<< She is, and far be it from me to guess what she knows or does not know, but it may be worth mentioning that she did a comedy routine the Aimee-free night before that began with the announcement "I'm pregnant!" E >From sharkyd1@yahoo.com Wed Dec 22 13:00:27 1999 Received: from web1706.mail.yahoo.com (web1706.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.217]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id NAA13875 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:00:25 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 5497 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Dec 1999 19:00:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19991222190020.5496.qmail@web1706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web1706.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:00:20 PST Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:00:20 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Downey Subject: Re: A little more about NYC To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1804289383-945889220=:5465" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1804289383-945889220=:5465 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lex, Thanks for the skinny. Keep the updates coming and I'll buy you a beer at the show (that's if this place sells beer!) Hope to see you at one of these shows at least. np-Uncle Tupelo - "Life Worth Livin' " Lex Marks wrote: Joe's Pub Box Office #'s are 212-539-8777 (recorded info), and 212-539-8778 (to speak to a human). The woman I spoke with said she thought that tix would be sold exclusively through telecharge (NY # 212-239-6200), but she wasn't 100% certain about it. Telecharge has no information as of yet. I'll keep y'all posted. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping. --0-1804289383-945889220=:5465 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Lex,    Thanks for the skinny. Keep the updates coming and I'll buy you a beer at the show (that's if this place sells beer!) Hope to see you at one of these shows at least.

np-Uncle Tupelo - "Life Worth Livin' "

Lex Marks <lex@inch.com> wrote:

Joe's Pub Box Office #'s are 212-539-8777 (recorded info), and
212-539-8778 (to speak to a human).
The woman I spoke with said she thought that tix would be sold exclusively
through telecharge (NY # 212-239-6200), but she wasn't 100% certain about
it.
Telecharge has no information as of yet.
I'll keep y'all posted.


Do You Yahoo!?
Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place.
Yahoo! Shopping.
--0-1804289383-945889220=:5465-- >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Wed Dec 22 13:08:16 1999 Received: from lovelace.usfca.edu (root@lovelace.usfca.edu [138.202.192.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA14368 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:08:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.41.105] (dialup-41-105.usfca.edu [138.202.41.105]) by lovelace.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09946 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:08:43 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991221230756.75922.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:10:42 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: Aimee Mann, Story at Eleven! Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN hi everyone, i called Bimbos in San Fran twice to confirm - they are saying the show is Tuesday the 25th, not the 26th....fyi. >Score one for Paul. Doing my best to get Aimee all the free publicity I can >muster! I have CC'ed Mr. Dave Elvin at the Seattle radio station that is >very Aimee friendly, KMTT. Dave, I am counting on you for HEAVY aimee >rotation, THINK GOO GOO DOLLS HEAVY. ;-) Sponsors and programming be damned! >Also, call Hausman and get Aimee on your show!! My work is never done! ;-) > >>From: Kevin Raub >>To: 'Paul Barras' >>Subject: RE: Aimee Mann News >>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:04:59 -0500 >> >>Just talked to Michael ...doing something today ... >> >>thanks >> >>kev >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Paul Barras [mailto:sonichawk@hotmail.com] >>Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 4:49 PM >>To: kevinr@allstarnews.com >>Subject: RE: Aimee Mann News >> >> >>Kevin, >> >>Have you tried Michael at his New York office? (212)274-0020. Give him a >>call. I put a call in to him, but he will probably return calls from the >>press more quickly. Thanks again. Aimee needs all the publicity she can >>get. Consider it a PUBLIC SERVICE. THey don't know what they are missing. >> >>Happy Holidays, >>Paul Barras >> >>P.S. The Seattle and Portland dates are set. You could probably also >>confirm >> >>with the Showbox and Aladdin directly. Bimbos in San Francisco is also set >>on the 26th. Michael Penn has a new cd due out on Feb 1, 2000 which will >>coincide with his appearances in concert with Aimee in New York. Get the >>scoop from Hausman. Do a picture feature of Aimee in an upcoming emailing!! >>She is a hot commodity!! >> >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From Kenableken@aol.com Wed Dec 22 13:14:09 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA14749 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:13:56 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.18cfecdb (3934) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:13:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.18cfecdb.25927cc3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:13:07 EST Subject: Re: A little more about NYC To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Now I'm thinking it might be cheaper for me to fly out to the West Coast and see all of her shows out there....rather than walk down the street and pay thirty a seat plus service charge, plus whatever the drink minimum at 10 a pop. >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Wed Dec 22 13:34:41 1999 Received: from dockmaster.usfca.edu (dockmaster.usfca.edu [138.202.192.9]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA15907 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:34:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.41.105] (dialup-41-105.usfca.edu [138.202.41.105]) by dockmaster.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16252 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:34:45 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.18cfecdb.25927cc3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:37:10 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: A little more about NYC Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN yes! come to San Francisco -her last show at SLim's was incredible - Buddy was perfect, Michael Hausman played the bucket - her EP sold out in about 1 minute. anyhoo, Bimbo's is a great club - in beautiful North Beach. trivia tip: Bimbos is where Courtney Cox and the always-quirky David Arquette had their wedding reception. roger wilco over and out!! bb >Now I'm thinking it might be cheaper for me to fly out to the West Coast and >see all of her shows out there....rather than walk down the street and pay >thirty a seat plus service charge, plus whatever the drink minimum at 10 a >pop. Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Wed Dec 22 13:47:29 1999 Received: from dockmaster.usfca.edu (dockmaster.usfca.edu [138.202.192.9]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA16613 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:47:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.41.105] (dialup-41-105.usfca.edu [138.202.41.105]) by dockmaster.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16475 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:47:32 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:49:59 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: my first time Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN i saw the my first ever trailer for "Magnolia" last nite on national tv - ABC - in San Fran! when it came on i freaked out, shushed my man and was glued to the set for every beatiful, mesmerizing second of it - wonderful to hear aimee in the background. doesn't open here until jan 7 - oh the humanity! Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From lex@inch.com Wed Dec 22 14:03:58 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA17738 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:03:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (oldshell.inch.com [207.240.140.252]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with SMTP id PAA25390; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:03:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Lex Marks" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Reply-to: lex@inch.com To: Mark Downey , mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Cc: aweiss4338@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:03:54 +500 Subject: Re: A little more about NYC Message-id: <38612eaa.981e.0@inch.com> X-User-Info: 161.114.71.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: lex@inch.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Ok Mark, I'll hold you to that (yes, Joe's "Pub" serves beer). I'll be there for at least 2 of the nights. Andrea, per your post: I have no idea regarding I.D., I (ahem) do not get carded these days. I wouldn't sweat it too much but if you want to be sure, contact the pub directly. (I don't think they will have a drink minimum, they didn't when I saw a show there. There will be so many people shoulder to shoulder I can't see how they'd keep track.) >Lex, Thanks for the skinny. Keep the updates coming and I'll buy you a beer at the show (that's if this place sells beer!) Hope to see you at one of these shows at least. > >np-Uncle Tupelo - "Life Worth Livin' " > >Lex Marks wrote: >Joe's Pub Box Office #'s are 212-539-8777 (recorded info), and >212-539-8778 (to speak to a human). >The woman I spoke with said she thought that tix would be sold exclusively >through telecharge (NY # 212-239-6200), but she wasn't 100% certain about >it. >Telecharge has no information as of yet. >I'll keep y'all posted. > > > >--------------------------------- >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. >Yahoo! Shopping. > >--0-1804289383-945889220=:5465 >From sproude@earthlink.net Wed Dec 22 14:55:02 1999 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA20947 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:55:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from earthlink.net (dialup-63.210.131.9.Boston1.Level3.net [63.210.131.9]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15165 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:55:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38613AEB.150D2404@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:56:11 -0500 From: SMP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist Subject: t-shirts.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN For the few of you not on the aimeemann.com mailing service..they now have t-shirts. I just ordered one..i hope it gets here by the time her tour comes through, and also for my recently planned golden globe party :) smp >From dennis@bandv.com Wed Dec 22 15:49:30 1999 Received: from ns2.san.rr.com (ns1.san.rr.com [24.25.195.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA12008 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:49:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.25.204.60] by ns2.san.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:49:27 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:49:26 -0800 Subject: Aimee & Michael & Buddy (oh my!) From: Dennis Kuhn To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0.19ef369f.2591ffbe@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I was at Largo last night also. I just wanted to echo some of Salt's comments that the show was great, and maybe add a tidbit or so to the details. > JACOB MARLEY'S CHAIN: Michael Paines added violin and Michael Penn played > drums. Just prior to this song, Aimee mentioned that Michael had his son with him upstairs. I didn't even know he had one, but there you go--why would they tell me? > YOU DO: What a great song. The chorus is so simple and catchy above such interesting instrumentation...it's fantastic. I personally could have appreciated it more without the glass clinking, but it was a fun thing to do regardless. I think Michael Penn amazes me more each time I see him...but more about him when I post to the Michael Penn onelist! > Also noted: There was a copy of "Clownhenge" on Ebay recently that went for > $50 bucks. Buddy says that he's going to have some more pressed in time for > the winter tour of the east coast. I bought a copy of Buddy's "Profiles in Clownhenge" last night. He's got such a great voice. I've only listened to it once all the way through, but I like its beautiful/sinister/comical mix (often in the same song!) already. Is this the same CD he was selling when he, Aimee and Patrick toured the East Coast last time? I thought he had an older CD from his band "The Buddy System," but I could have been misled. Does anyone know anything about that? Regardless, if you get a chance to snare one of his discs, I'd do it. A lot of the folks who work, or have in the past, with Aimee contribute to it: Michael Penn did the artwork, Dan McCarrol did most of the drumming, Mike Deneen did some of the production and played some Mellotron and piano and melodica. Aimee even plays bass on a cool song called "Vision." Besides, there's 21 tracks on it! One final thing...Aimee did say that she hoped to see the Largo in January, so maybe they'll be back for some tour warmups. Okay, enough rambling from me. Thanks to Aimee for playing even though she had a "fever of 104." Dennis >From dennis@bandv.com Wed Dec 22 17:26:51 1999 Received: from ns2.san.rr.com (ns1.san.rr.com [24.25.195.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA05699 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:26:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.25.204.60] by ns2.san.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:26:50 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:26:48 -0800 Subject: Jan. 5 From: Dennis Kuhn To: Aimee Mann Mailing list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3028721208_3903296_MIME_Part" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3028721208_3903296_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Got this from another mailing list. Sorry if it's already been posted here. Mark your calendars: Aimee Mann is scheduled to appear on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" on Wednesday, January 5. Check local listings. -- Dennis Kuhn B&V Publishing (858) 483-9300, fax (858) 483-9399 --MS_Mac_OE_3028721208_3903296_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Jan. 5 Got this from another mailing list. Sorry if it's already been posted h= ere.

Mark your calendars:  Aimee Mann is scheduled to
appear on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" on
Wednesday, January 5.  Check local listings.

--
Dennis Kuhn
B&V Publishing
(858) 483-9300, fax (858) 483-9399
--MS_Mac_OE_3028721208_3903296_MIME_Part-- >From UFOTUFO101@aol.com Wed Dec 22 18:06:53 1999 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA08901 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:06:44 -0600 (CST) From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Received: from UFOTUFO101@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.bfcce796 (4453) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:05:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.bfcce796.2592c165@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:05:57 EST Subject: Re: A little more about NYC To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN thanks for the info guys! -gina >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 22 18:51:20 1999 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA19887 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:51:19 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.b4f2452e (4233) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:50:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.b4f2452e.2592cbe0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:50:40 EST Subject: There she goes, there she goes again To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Great news. I check out various things in Bilboard weekly, and on the on the various video network charts, on the add ons for this week...Save Me has been added to MTV2's playlist. it's a good start, let's hope she graduates to MTV/VH1 at some point, maybe if she wins a GG. Yes that was a reference to the La's song There She Goes, recently covered by Sixpence None The Richer. Andrea >From roback@sirius.com Wed Dec 22 20:17:21 1999 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA25961 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:17:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.127.82.185] (185-82-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.82.185]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA81803 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:17:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912230217.SAA81803@mail1.sirius.com> Subject: Re: There she goes, there she goes again Date: Wed, 22 Dec 99 18:19:09 -0800 x-sender: roback@pop.sirius.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: missy roback To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN and let's hope they never cover another song again. they absolutely ruined a gorgeous song! >Yes that was a reference to the La's song There She Goes, recently covered >by Sixpence None The Richer. ------------------ Missy Roback Honeybee Publishing 415.695.1642 coming soon ... honeybeepub.com >From tingalls@coastalnet.com Wed Dec 22 20:35:43 1999 Received: from phoenix.coastalnet.com (phoenix.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA26698 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:35:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from pavilion (pm-wsh6-178.coastalnet.com [205.245.121.178]) by phoenix.coastalnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA23982 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:36:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00b301bf4cee$b8dbc040$b279f5cd@pavilion> From: "Terry Ingalls" To: Subject: LENO appearance Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:37:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi Folks, I don't know if it's been posted yet (I get this in digest form), but Aimee is scheduled to be on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno show 1/5/00. Set your VCRs and make sure they're Y2K compliant! Terry >From cam@extraneous.demon.co.uk Wed Dec 22 20:59:18 1999 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA28744 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:59:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from extraneous.demon.co.uk ([194.222.63.186] helo=UKsolyib41) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 120yTE-000Mxi-0X for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:59:16 +0000 From: "Cameron Smith" To: Subject: Aimee's section on the Artist Direct website... Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:00:43 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Anyone else had trouble with this? I've ended up going around in circles every time I register a user name and try to progress matters further. When the www.aimeemann.com website was relaunched a few months back, I know they were only accepting money orders for the merchandise but under Artists Direct, the option for credit cards (and other methods) is open to us all. I dunno what or why it goes wrong, but I fill in the details, feed my address into the site, change my country listing, wait for the page reload, specify the rest of the address, return to the original order page, enter the password, click continue, get the same page back in front of me again... I end up going around in circles. The system obviously works up to a point, because they've recorded enough info from my last abortive visit to tell me there are now tee-shirts for "Bachelor #2" available. I'll buy anything like that, I'm the gullible sort, but they won't even take my money off me. Any other Mannlisters had similar experiences or worked out how to get around the problem? Time for bed. Adios amigos. Cameron >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Wed Dec 22 21:08:03 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA29235 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:08:02 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.bfc86f75 (4327) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:07:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.bfc86f75.2592ebed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:07:25 EST Subject: Re: There she goes, there she goes again To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Yes I know, I loved the La's version, Sixpences is too chipper. Andrea >From indigo@mindspring.com Wed Dec 22 22:07:31 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA02576 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:07:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from dh (user-2ivekbn.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.81.119]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10418 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:07:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991222230301.00e1c100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: indigo@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:03:54 -0500 To: Aimee Mann Mailing List From: Deb Subject: Best of the Year, Best of the Decade Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN My favorite releases of 1999, in order: Catie Curtis, A Crash Course in Roses - magnificent follow-up to her eponymous album Aimee Mann, Magnolia Soundtrack - Oscar! Oscar! - (And the rare "Bachelor #2" demos are even better, available at aimeemann.com ) Joe Henry, Fuse - strays from alt.country roots with marvelous results - great production by T-Bone Burnett Jeremy Toback, Another True Fiction - excellent power-pop Indigo Girls, Come On Now Social - branching out but with the same quality I've come to expect Ani DiFranco, To the Teeth - Ani's trip-hopjazzfusion album! Odd, but fun. Kelly Willis, What I Deserve - Excellent country-folk-rock Kristin Hersh, Sky Motel - Kristin sounding more like the old Throwing Muses days SONiA, Me, Too - finally back in good form (I haven't gotten Michelle Malone or Kristen Hall's new releases yet, but I suspect they'd earn a spot above.) Disappointments of the year: the long-awaited new albums from Willy Porter ("Falling Forward") and Luka Bloom ("Salty Heaven"). ---<>--- My top 25 of the 90's... the ground rules: o no live CDs -- this eliminated Indigo Girls' "1200 Curfews" and Bonnie Raitt's "Road Tested" o no greatest hits collections o only 1 CD per artist (to leave room for less consistent and prolific artists than Indigo Girls, Sheryl Crow, Ani DiFranco, and Melissa Ferrick) o no CDs that you can't buy today (this eliminated releases by Mary Karlzen and Shannon Worrell) Here are the results, in alphabetical order: The Breeders, Pod (1990) Barenaked Ladies, Gordon (1992) Rosanne Cash, The Wheel (1993) Eagle-Eye Cherry, Desireless (1998) Shawn Colvin, A Few Small Repairs (1996) Sheryl Crow, Tuesday Night Music Club (1993) Catie Curtis, Catie Curtis (1997) Ani DiFranco, Out of Range (1994) Pete Droge, Necktie Second (1994) Joe Henry, Fuse (1999) Melissa Ferrick, Willing to Wait (1995) Indigo Girls, Rites of Passage (1992) k.d. lang, Ingenue (1992) Patty Larkin, Perishable Fruit (1997) Laura Love, Octoroon (1997) Lyle Lovett, Step Inside This House (1998) Michelle Malone, Beneath the Devil Moon (1997) Aimee Mann, Whatever (1993) Sarah McLachlan, Fumbling Towards Ecstacy (1993) Dave Matthews Band, Under the Table and Dreaming (1994) Peter Mulvey, Deep Blue (1997) Semisonic, Great Divide (1996) Michelle Shocked, Arkansas Traveler (1992) Throwing Muses, The Real Ramona (1991) Suzanne Vega, Days of Open Hand (1990) -- Deb >From jase@iaw.on.ca Wed Dec 22 23:25:07 1999 Received: from iaw.on.ca (IDENT:root@canal.iaw.on.ca [209.5.112.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id XAA07529 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:25:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from jase.iaw.on.ca(src addr [209.5.118.135]) (1654 bytes) by iaw.on.ca via sendmail with P\:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:24:55 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1998-Dec-27) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991223052349.009b25b0@iaw.on.ca> X-Sender: jase@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:23:49 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Jason Long Subject: Aimee makes "Best of Year" List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id XAA07530 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This past week, SonicNet's Music News of the World staff have been publishing their picks for the ten best albums of the year. I keep checking each day to see if Aimee's gotten any mentions, and finally she has. From editor Matty Karas' list: 4. Aimee Mann, Music From the Motion Picture "Magnolia" (Reprise): I can only imagine how excited this hard-luck story of a veteran singer/songwriter would be to know she is on a list with ODB and the Frogs (see #9 below). But that's not why I put her here, I swear. This 13-song soundtrack, which starts with nine Mann songs (including a cover of the Three Dog Night hit "One"), is the perfectly written and produced, smart and ambitious pop album that everyone from Michael Penn to Jules Shear — and even some people Mann hasn't dated (Paul Westerberg, anyone?) — have been trying to make for years. It's also the first one I've ever liked. The two old Supertramp hits tacked on near the end are unfortunate, but I'm going to assume that's not her fault. Now, if only the rest of their writers would "Wise Up"... Cheers, Jase >From vanpelt101@hotmail.com Wed Dec 22 23:58:10 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f210.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.210]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id XAA09845 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:58:09 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 57976 invoked by uid 0); 23 Dec 1999 05:57:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19991223055739.57975.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.42.81 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:57:39 PST X-Originating-IP: [12.72.42.81] From: "Jerome Gonzales" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Largo, Magnolia, etc. Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:57:39 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN OK, first off, the show last night was great! I loved the two girls who opened up and did banter. (If I'm not mistaken, one of them is in "Veronica's Closet"?) Michael was more assured of himself this time which was good. And Aimee was chattier than when I'd seen her before. Very cute and funny. And did I see Jennifer Jason Leigh in the Mann/Penn booth with Michael, the violinist who looks like Peter Sellars? Just checking. On a bragging note, I am responisble for the sale of 9 copies of 'Magnolia.' I've given three as gifts, encouraged two friends to buy it themselves, one friend to buy it as a gift for someone else and have an extra just because you never know (I may end up giving it to my boss for Christmas because he really liked the CD when I played it today.) Of course, this is in addition to my copy. I want to make it an even 10. And I am dating someone who's musical taste needs a shot in the arm... Just as a note, I went to a local Borders and couldn't find it-they'd sold out of all 10 copies by this Sunday. Ditto with two tiny record stores (4 apiece) and the Tower I bought the four from had only two more left after I was done. All this and a Golden Globe nomination. (Is the Penn family going to be rooting extra for Aimee since she's up against Madonna? :p j/k) Well, all for now. Solamente Jerome! -member and future President of the Music Whore Society p.s. Is anyone else in love with Juliana Hatfield's background on "Deathly"? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From jsteinmann@clynch.com Thu Dec 23 01:08:49 1999 Received: from mail.clynch.com ([206.8.2.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id BAA14604 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:08:48 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.clynch.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:15:12 -0600 Received: from 205.153.104.244 [205.153.104.244] by mail.clynch.com [206.8.2.1] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 9505F74BB80B11D3AE3C006097D4776C for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:15:11 -0600 Date: 23 Dec 1999 01:08:02 -0600 Message-ID: <-1266211228jsteinmann@clynch.com> Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Largo, Magnolia, etc. To: Jerome Gonzales CC: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jack Steinmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" X-SLUIDL: 0D38CBED-B88011D3-AE3C0060-97D4776C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id BAA14605 X-Sender: "Jack Steinmann" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Yes. Jack ps And how about those harmonies in the third verse? On Wednesday, December 22, 1999, Jerome wrote: Is anyone else in love with Juliana Hatfield's background on "Deathly"? >From incubus1@ix.netcom.com Thu Dec 23 01:13:53 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id BAA14743 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:13:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sji-ca41-146.ix.netcom.com [209.111.208.146]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18452 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:13:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38615AA8.846BE843@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:11:36 +0000 From: Rob Moore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee's section on the Artist Direct website... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I haven't had the same exact problem, but, today I recieved part of my order. I decided to replace my worn out cassettes of Whatever and IWS with cd's from AMdirect.com. I also ordered the video. Today I got two seperate boxes, one with Whatever, the other with a mariachi band that was to go to some guy in Florida, Oh well I hope he enjoys Aimee. Now I gotta send it back and try to straighten it out. Does anyone know if Artist Direct is in fact cd now. The statement from the wrong cd is from cd now. Rob Cameron Smith wrote: > Anyone else had trouble with this? I've ended up going around in circles > every time I register a user name and try to progress matters further. When > the www.aimeemann.com website was relaunched a few months back, I know they > were only accepting money orders for the merchandise but under Artists > Direct, the option for credit cards (and other methods) is open to us all. I > dunno what or why it goes wrong, but I fill in the details, feed my address > into the site, change my country listing, wait for the page reload, specify > the rest of the address, return to the original order page, enter the > password, click continue, get the same page back in front of me again... > > I end up going around in circles. The system obviously works up to a point, > because they've recorded enough info from my last abortive visit to tell me > there are now tee-shirts for "Bachelor #2" available. I'll buy anything like > that, I'm the gullible sort, but they won't even take my money off me. > > Any other Mannlisters had similar experiences or worked out how to get > around the problem? > > Time for bed. Adios amigos. > Cameron >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Thu Dec 23 05:17:13 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f24.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.24]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id FAA21095 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 05:17:12 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 36743 invoked by uid 0); 23 Dec 1999 11:16:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19991223111650.36742.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.162.242 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:16:50 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.162.242] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Fwd: allstar Daily News - 12/22 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:16:50 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_6697f069_63b485b2$65b66ddf" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_6697f069_63b485b2$65b66ddf Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Take a look! Woo hoo! They did a nice feature for Aimee, but why did Courtney get the feature spot?!! She wasn't nominated for anything dammit!! I literally begged Raub to give Aimee the feature spot! Bah! I wish I had editorial power!! I wish I knew somebody at Rolling Stone. 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------=_NextPart_000_6697f069_63b485b2$65b66ddf-- >From pasquinade@erols.com Thu Dec 23 06:38:08 1999 Received: from isocor.reliastar.com (root@mail.reliastar.com [204.86.50.23]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id GAA01337 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:38:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from erols.com (z23694.reliastar.com [172.16.31.215]) by isocor.reliastar.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA08282 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:38:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <386217AC.3E348038@erols.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:38:04 -0500 From: Ed Lynn Reply-To: pasquinade@erols.com X-Sender: "Ed Lynn" <@mail.reliastar.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-RS402-1 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Largo, Magnolia, etc. References: <19991223055739.57975.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Jerome Gonzales wrote: > On a bragging note, I am responisble for the sale of 9 copies of > 'Magnolia.' I've given three as gifts, encouraged two friends to buy it > themselves, one friend to buy it as a gift for someone else and have an > extra just because you never know (I may end up giving it to my boss for > Christmas because he really liked the CD when I played it today.) Of > course, this is in addition to my copy. I want to make it an even 10. And > I am dating someone who's musical taste needs a shot in the arm... You've already got me beat. I can only claim six: my own, three as gifts, one of those gifts played it in her office and her co-worker went out immediately and bought her own, and my encouragement has sold it to another friend. And I plan to get at least one more for a neighbor. > Just as a note, I went to a local Borders and couldn't find it-they'd > sold out of all 10 copies by this Sunday. Ditto with two tiny record stores > (4 apiece) and the Tower I bought the four from had only two more left after > I was done. I started at Best Buy the day it was out and they had ten copies that day. Two days later, I was back and they had two left. Which I, of course, bought immediately[1]. Finding it at other stores proved to be fruitless as well. I've been taking this as good and bad news, interchangably. I'll check Tower again on the way home and, like Jerome, will probably pick up an extra copy in case I've forgotten someone. ed. [1] An exaggeration. Due to the size of the line and the ineptitude of the ninth-grader behind the counter, technically, nothing was immediate. >From Kenableken@aol.com Thu Dec 23 07:13:57 1999 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id HAA01977 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:13:57 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.3c15cb24 (3938); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:13:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3c15cb24.259379f2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:13:22 EST Subject: sold out To: Kenableken@aol.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Yesterday, here in Manhattan, both Virgin and Tower were sold out. >From draper@umich.edu Thu Dec 23 10:07:31 1999 Received: from donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.163]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA11059 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:07:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from pacman.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@pacman.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.150]) by donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id LAA26638 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (draper@localhost) by pacman.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/5.1-client) with ESMTP id LAA17809 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) Precedence: first-class Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) From: jimmy X-Sender: draper@pacman.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: more tour dates? In-Reply-To: <199912231200.GAA22322@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN are all the dates set? or will more be announced? no michigan??! i was 3 time zones away when she played down the street from my ann arbor apt. this summer... >From draper@umich.edu Thu Dec 23 11:16:41 1999 Received: from berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.162]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA17064 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:16:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from moonpatrol.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@moonpatrol.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.149]) by berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id MAA18653 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (draper@localhost) by moonpatrol.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/5.1-client) with ESMTP id MAA12804 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:16:39 -0500 (EST) Precedence: first-class Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:16:38 -0500 (EST) From: jimmy X-Sender: draper@moonpatrol.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee Interview Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN i get the digest version, so i don't know if this was posted... http://entertainment.msn.com/music/interview/1222_mann.asp >From decland@nz1.ibm.com Thu Dec 23 13:56:03 1999 Received: from ausmtp01.au.ibm.com (ausmtp01.au.ibm.COM [202.135.136.97]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA00435 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:56:01 -0600 (CST) From: decland@nz1.ibm.com Received: from f03n05e.au.ibm.com by ausmtp01.au.ibm.com (IBM AP 1.0) with ESMTP id GAA131696 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 06:45:29 +1100 Received: from d73mta03.au.ibm.com (f06n03s [9.185.166.97]) by f03n05e.au.ibm.com (8.8.8m2/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA45526 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 06:55:20 +1100 Received: by d73mta03.au.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id CA256850.006D6E34 ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 06:55:16 +1100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMNZ@IBMAU To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:55:12 +1300 Subject: Magnolia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi, I'm fairly certain that I've got the only copies of Magnolia in NZ. A few copies will be distributed as Christmas gifts to the converted. I've welded Magnolia on my QUAD at home, stored it on my ThinkPad, and made a minidisc of it, so I'm listening to it pretty much every waking moment. It is fantastic, especially You Do and Wise Up. What great tunes. Roll on B2. I'm cooking a scam to get to the right coast for some of the gigs, look forward to bumping into some 'listers. Merry Christmas and a quiet Y2K. Peace........... Declan Email: decland@nz1.ibm.com >From Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com Thu Dec 23 14:05:53 1999 Received: from mailsrv.frc.com (mail.frc.com [208.235.135.211]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA01220 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 14:05:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from hqmail01.frc.com ([172.20.12.21]) by mailsrv.frc.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2F95 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:05:21 -0500 Received: by HQMAIL01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:04:54 -0500 Message-ID: <2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B13A6355@HQMAIL01> From: "Bachman, Michael" To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" Subject: RE: more tour dates? Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:04:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Jimmy, I echo your feelings about Michigan. Aimee has a strong following in The Great Lakes State, and she would sell out no problem. I did see her at The Ark on 07/29/99 and at The 7Th House in Pontiac on 02/11/96. I missed her at St. Andrews in December of 93, and never saw 'Til Tuesday. If she doesn't come to Michigan this time, I'll have to think about a Road Trip!! Congrats Aimee on your Golden Globe nomination. You deserve to win this award and the Oscar as well!!!! The best to you and Michael over the Holiday's. Michael -----Original Message----- From: jimmy [mailto:draper@umich.edu] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 11:07 AM To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: more tour dates? are all the dates set? or will more be announced? no michigan??! i was 3 time zones away when she played down the street from my ann arbor apt. this summer... >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Thu Dec 23 17:14:38 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f208.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.208]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id RAA15655 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:14:37 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 4499 invoked by uid 0); 23 Dec 1999 23:14:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19991223231406.4498.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.173.85 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:14:06 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.173.85] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Official dates so far & more 411 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:14:06 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Here are the dates for the upcoming Michael Penn/Aimee Mann tour: Jan. 25, San Francisco, Bimbo's Jan. 28, Portland, Ore., Aladdin Jan. 29, Seattle, Showbox Feb. 7, Annapolis, Md., The Ramshead Feb. 8, Alexandria, Va., The Birchmere Feb. 11, Philadelphia, The TLA Feb. 12, Somerville, Mass., The Somerville Theater Feb. 13, Providence, R.I., Lupos Feb. 15-17, New York, Joe's Pub This is what Michael confirmed with my contact at CdNow Allstar News for print. Sorry the original details were a little sketchy, but Michael was spotty on the exact dates when we spoke at Largo. As for the article about Aimee wearing a dress to the premiere, I can only hope that she doesn't "go Hollywood" now. I think she should call Sharon Stone and dress fairly close to the way she always would. This is no time to start playing the game. In that same article, she speculated how onlookers must have been thinking, "who is she..." If there is ANY justice in this world, no one will ask that question to themselves after the Oscars and Grammys. Here is another link with yet another review of Magnolia. It was given an 85 out of 100 rating. A friend of mine in Houston says it opened there on Wednesday. Could that be possible?! http://mrshowbiz.go.com/reviews/moviereviews/movies/Magnolia_1999.html Finally, I find it disturbing that the Golden Globes, which nominated TEN films (5 comedy-musical/5 drama), could not honor MAGNOLIA with a nomination. This might not bode well for it in the Oscar race as it must make the cut of just a final FIVE nominees in that ceremony. Still, I will NOT NOT NOT argue with the wisdom of the body that voted to nominate Aimee Mann. OBVIOUSLY, they must know what they are doing (and P.T. probably sent them all videos and some complimentary fruit baskets, as it is much easier to bribe the MUCH smaller Golden Globe body than the 5,000 PLUS members of the Academy. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From brentm@autobahn.mb.ca Thu Dec 23 17:28:35 1999 Received: from mail.autobahn.mb.ca (mail.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.26]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA16957 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:28:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from winklovic (a12MXG125.autobahn.mb.ca [206.45.254.125]) by mail.autobahn.mb.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3/AAC/AD) with SMTP id RAA10451 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:28:31 -0600 (CST) From: "Brent Mazur" To: Subject: RE: Official dates so far & more 411 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:28:36 -0600 Message-ID: <000001bf4d9d$6f873780$7dfe2dce@winklovic> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19991223231406.4498.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >As for the article about Aimee wearing a dress to the premiere, I >can only >hope that she doesn't "go Hollywood" now. I think she should call Sharon >Stone and dress fairly close to the way she always would. This is >no time to >start playing the game. She's a woman, for goodness sakes, so wearing a dress is allowed I think. "I bought it because I liked it," she said. Now, if Michael showed up in dress, that might be story. :) Brent >From WildAndInn@aol.com Thu Dec 23 17:45:23 1999 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA18373 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:45:22 -0600 (CST) From: WildAndInn@aol.com Received: from WildAndInn@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.1dbe745b (4199) for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:44:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.1dbe745b.25940df0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:44:48 EST Subject: Attack of the Killer B-Sides wanted To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 137 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN How can I get a copy of 'Attack of the Killer B-Sides' or any other rarity compilations for Aimee? All I have is the regular albums. Any advice gratefully received! Happy Christmas! cheers, Dan >From Kenableken@aol.com Thu Dec 23 17:53:33 1999 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA18937 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:53:33 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.687794d (4206) for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:52:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.687794d.25940fd8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:52:56 EST Subject: Aimee's Dress To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN And it was a Betsy Johnson for god's sake, which is perfect for her. It's not like she suddenly decided to throw on a gold-beaded armani jacket she borrowed from Jodie Foster or something. >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Thu Dec 23 17:53:46 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f230.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.230]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id RAA18957 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:53:46 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 78142 invoked by uid 0); 23 Dec 1999 23:53:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19991223235315.78141.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.173.85 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:53:15 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.173.85] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: speed dial Blackwell & Joan Rivers Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:53:15 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The point is (and she said it), she doesn't wear dresses usually. She should not start worrying about what to wear. That is not what Aimee is about. In fact, and I go on a limb here, I HOPE SHE MAKES ALL WORST DRESS LISTS AT THE OSCARS and then Blackwell's end of the year list. What that means is FREE publicity (I know that is a redundant phrase) with a picture of our favorite chanteuse plastered all over magazines and entertainment news show. Who is Aimee Mann indeed?!! There is no such thing as bad publicity. If it gets you noticed... (I mean it didn't even kill Clinton or Hugh Grant!) >From: "Brent Mazur" >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: >Subject: RE: Official dates so far & more 411 >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:28:36 -0600 > > >As for the article about Aimee wearing a dress to the premiere, I > >can only > >hope that she doesn't "go Hollywood" now. I think she should call Sharon > >Stone and dress fairly close to the way she always would. This is > >no time to > >start playing the game. > >She's a woman, for goodness sakes, so wearing a dress is allowed I think. >"I bought it because I liked it," she said. Now, if Michael showed up in >dress, that might be story. :) > >Brent > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Salt5@aol.com Thu Dec 23 18:31:22 1999 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA27222 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:31:21 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ca1be83f (3934); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:30:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ca1be83f.259418b6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:30:46 EST Subject: Sean Penn on line five, Mr. Blackwell To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Of course she dressed up! When in Rome... Personally, I'd love to see a picture taken that night. I've always thought that Aimee was a real dish (sorry if that's not p.c. enough for you) and I'm sure that she looked great at the Magnolia premiere. Did you guys see Elle this month? Aimee is the bee's knees! >From Salt5@aol.com Thu Dec 23 19:13:22 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA29763 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:13:22 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.bdba01e (4216); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:12:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.bdba01e.2594228f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:12:47 EST Subject: Radio Aimee Is on the Air To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Merry Christmas! Click away, click away, click away all. Isn't life great? >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Thu Dec 23 19:28:27 1999 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA00071 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:28:26 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.725b1cf4 (4546) for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:27:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.725b1cf4.25942613@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:27:47 EST Subject: Magnolia makes the NY Post To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I would take this with a grain of salt but Magnolia was named best film of the year by one of the NY Post's film critics. Don't have the URL, I just saw this in the actual paper. Andrea >From Salt5@aol.com Thu Dec 23 19:33:49 1999 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA00471 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:33:47 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.59b26d47 (3311); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:33:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.59b26d47.25942758@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:33:12 EST Subject: driving sideways To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN BTW, if you find that IB audio is congested tonight, try again later. The RealAudio server is working fine but the shopping traffic on the internet is extra heavy and I noticed that the buffer load-times are unusually slow. E-humbug! >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Thu Dec 23 19:41:21 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f241.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.241]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id TAA01033 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:41:21 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 65559 invoked by uid 0); 24 Dec 1999 01:40:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19991224014050.65558.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.175.173 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:40:50 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.175.173] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: ad-dressing important issues Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:40:50 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Here's the deal, read the article that mentions the dress. Aimee says she doesn't care what people say or think about her. What's important is her music and its artistic use in film. Unless she is talking out of both sides of her mouth, that means she is not concerned about wearing the right things to these ceremonies. She should wear what she wears to go out to a nice restaurant. I don't care that the Oscars are black tie and formal. Aimee has never been about conformity (not a "when in Rome" gal so to speak), and I would consider it a "sell-out" now if she were. I only wish Aimee could afford to shun the ceremonies like her brother-in-law is wont to do on occasion. THAT would be in the true spirit of Aimee, and to win and have an Interscope executive have to accept the award on her behalf!!! Of course, I'll just be happy she is holding an invitation into the Dorothy Chadler Pavillion at all, and SHE WILL!! I am no Joe Namath, but I guarantee it!! I can't remember, but did Elliot Smith wear Armani?! I don't remember whether he was formal or not. Let's also not forget that he is now a member of the music branch of the academy, so Aimee should have one vote toward that nomination on mutual admiration. Can you believe it, Aimee and Elliot could both be members of the academy!? We might begin to weed out those kitschy Disney nominees in future years with people of lyrical genuis casting ballots. >From: Kenableken@aol.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Aimee's Dress >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:52:56 EST > >And it was a Betsy Johnson for god's sake, which is perfect for her. > >It's not like she suddenly decided to throw on a gold-beaded armani jacket >she borrowed from Jodie Foster or something. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Logan00NC@aol.com Thu Dec 23 20:06:17 1999 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA02319 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:06:17 -0600 (CST) From: Logan00NC@aol.com Received: from Logan00NC@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.baf49a5e (3859) for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:05:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.baf49a5e.25942ef3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:05:39 EST Subject: OT - Aimee's clothes To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Can we get away from all the worry about Aimee's attire? The whole thing of "Aimee isn't about conformity" seems like an arguement for her to go somewhere and draw a lot of attention to herself to stir things up. She may not be "about conformity", but come on - she's also not an insecure, rebelous teenager either. "And that's all I've got to say about that...." >From jimh@nycap.rr.com Thu Dec 23 21:13:35 1999 Received: from mail4.nycap.rr.com (mail4-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.32.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA09157 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:13:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from P3450X2 ([24.29.42.74]) by mail4.nycap.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:15:35 -0500 From: "Jim Harrigan" To: Subject: RE: Radio Aimee Is on the Air Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:13:38 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <0.bdba01e.2594228f@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is cool! Good work John. -Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Salt5@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 8:13 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Cc: Salt5@aol.com Subject: Radio Aimee Is on the Air Merry Christmas! Click away, click away, click away all. Isn't life great? >From loehr@javanet.com Thu Dec 23 22:12:22 1999 Received: from kona.javanet.com (kona.javanet.com [209.94.128.5]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA13378 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:12:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (loehr@localhost) by kona.javanet.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA14241 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:15:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:15:40 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RE: Radio Aimee Is on the Air In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Jim Harrigan wrote: > This is cool! > > Good work John. > > -Jim > I agree -- thanks, John! Eric >From Salt5@aol.com Fri Dec 24 08:53:18 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA08930 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:53:18 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.ca1d9d66 (4241) for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:52:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ca1d9d66.2594e2bd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:52:45 EST Subject: Re: Radio Aimee Is on the Air To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Thanks for your kind words. 2 quick tech questions: My Jacob Marley track always seems to rebuffer at 2:35. Is there a limitation to the buffer length when using an open server? Also: any idea how I can get to the Real server? Thanks, John >From lex@inch.com Fri Dec 24 09:22:56 1999 Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA09244 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:22:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from inch.com (TC3-dial-170-215.oldslip.inch.com [207.240.215.170]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with ESMTP id KAA09312; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:22:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38638FB4.C449DAAF@inch.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:22:28 -0500 From: Lex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com Subject: Re: Sean Penn on line five, Mr. Blackwell References: <0.ca1be83f.259418b6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN http://www.ptanderson.com/images/Magnolia/Premiere/LA%20Times%20Photos/mann.jpg Salt5@aol.com wrote: > Of course she dressed up! When in Rome... > Personally, I'd love to see a picture taken that night. >From lovnros@idt.net Fri Dec 24 09:44:51 1999 Received: from mail-relay4.idt.net (MAIL-RELAY4.IDT.NET [169.132.8.88]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA09518 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:44:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from [169.132.153.130] (ppp-34.ts-3.lax.idt.net [169.132.153.130]) by mail-relay4.idt.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09440 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:44:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199912241544.KAA09440@mail-relay4.idt.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 07:45:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Sean Penn on line five, Mr. Blackwell From: "Daniel P. Melvold" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN While I appreciate the fact a lot of people out there think of Aimee as a non-conformist. I personally think she has standards for her work and is not willing to compromise them. I don't think this is slapping society in the face; but rather, being true to yourself and your ablities. Why anyone would be surprised that Aimee "dressed up" for the premiere of "Magnolia" amazes me. Aimee is not a rude person. To have snubbed or come in ratty clothes would have been rude to her friend the director - and a slap in the face to all that he has done with her. Sometimes you do things out of respect to others - I realise this is a rare feat this day and age. To have not gone, would have also been another missed opportunity to "push" her career. I personally don't think Aimee want's to commit career suicide as much as be (once again) true to herself. She is doing things like touring & interviews, which she has expressed in the past, not exactly her favourite things to do. But I also think she knows there is an element of publicity/support work she must do for her profession. And lately, she has expressed a real joy in her work - which has made the touring and interviews more pleasant to do. I know personally, I would much rather go to a movie premiere or awards ceremony if it was for something I believed in, worked hard for, and was proud of the work I had accomplished. Dan ---------- >From: Lex >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Re: Sean Penn on line five, Mr. Blackwell >Date: Fri, Dec 24, 1999, 7:22 AM > >http://www.ptanderson.com/images/Magnolia/Premiere/LA%20Times%20Photos/mann.jpg > > >Salt5@aol.com wrote: > >> Of course she dressed up! When in Rome... >> Personally, I'd love to see a picture taken that night. > > > >From draper@umich.edu Fri Dec 24 10:19:43 1999 Received: from donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.163]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id KAA10329 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:19:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from choplifter.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@choplifter.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.143]) by donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id LAA03111 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (draper@localhost) by choplifter.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/5.1-client) with ESMTP id LAA26938 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:19:40 -0500 (EST) Precedence: first-class Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:19:40 -0500 (EST) From: jimmy X-Sender: draper@choplifter.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: Boston Phnx/Mich. In-Reply-To: <199912241200.GAA26471@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Boston Phoenix named "Save Me" Best Song from a Film this year Michael, what was the Ann Arbor Ark show like? Sell out? I only saw Aimee play w/ Patti Smith et al. at Pine Knob in 1996 >From jimh@nycap.rr.com Fri Dec 24 13:22:23 1999 Received: from mail4.nycap.rr.com (mail4-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.33.20]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA14787 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:22:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from P3450X2 ([24.29.42.74]) by mail4.nycap.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:24:24 -0500 From: "Jim Harrigan" To: Subject: RE: Radio Aimee Is on the Air Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:22:27 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <0.ca1d9d66.2594e2bd@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >My Jacob Marley track always seems to rebuffer at 2:35. Is there a limitation >to the buffer length when using an open server? Buffering is configured on the Real Player client. To change the buffer, go to view menu and select preferences and then the connection tab. Increase the buffer to about 60 seconds or so and that should do the trick.. -Jim >From ronaldr@uio.satnet.net Fri Dec 24 14:28:42 1999 Received: from uio.satnet.net (uio.satnet.net [207.243.59.1]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA16757 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:28:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from uio ([207.243.59.1]) by uio.satnet.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 121bLQ-0004vM-00 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:29:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:29:47 -0500 (GMT) From: Ronald Rodriguez X-Sender: ronaldr@uio To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RE: Radio Aimee Is on the Air In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi all!! A merry christmas and a happy new year to all!!!!! A special MERY CHRISTMAS TO AIMEE.. And I'm sure next year is going to be a very HAPPY HAPPY NEW YEAR FOR YOU!!! Guys, visit my ftp server.. I have a bunch of mp3 songs.. AImee Mann, Till Tuesday, A-ha, Berlin, u2, etc,etc ftp://realserver.uio.satnet.net/pub host: realserver.uio.satnet.net username: anonymous passwd: anonymous port: 21 Check it out!!!!! Hasta la vista.. ____Ronald M. Rodriguez C._____ Supervisor de Operaciones SATNet "La mejor Via" Telef. Trabajo: 413474-7 418250 Telef. Casa: 497134 #ICQ: 10198146 #Beeper: 4578958 >From tingalls@coastalnet.com Fri Dec 24 17:38:16 1999 Received: from phoenix.coastalnet.com (phoenix.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA27669 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:38:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from pavilion (pm-wsh6-188.coastalnet.com [205.245.121.188]) by phoenix.coastalnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA09047 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:38:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <066701bf4e68$47183f80$bc79f5cd@pavilion> From: "Terry Ingalls" To: Subject: Michael Dupuis Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:40:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hail! hail! Michael Dupuis! I just got the Aimee Acoustic Cafe CD today! It sounds great, excellent quality, and just in time for Christmas! Thanks again Michael, you are the Man! Terry >From Salt5@aol.com Fri Dec 24 18:38:43 1999 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA05727 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:38:42 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.8857183 (3701); Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:38:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8857183.25956bef@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:38:07 EST Subject: santa must love aimee too To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Radio Aimee has now been fine-tuned for a faster, better connection. Try the link again and you'll notice that the tracks load up very quickly. They also run now without interruption on most low-bandwidth connections too. And to all a good night! >From UFOTUFO101@aol.com Fri Dec 24 19:11:42 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id TAA06355 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:11:41 -0600 (CST) From: UFOTUFO101@aol.com Received: from UFOTUFO101@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.6ea52e0d (4227) for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:11:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6ea52e0d.259573ac@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:11:08 EST Subject: man on the moon To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN hey guys, went to see man on the moon today...what a weird movie...um anyway though i have a question...i noticed in the credits that the producer was michael hausman...is OUR hausman or someother one? -g >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Sat Dec 25 01:17:32 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f146.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.146]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id BAA18724 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 01:17:31 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 17899 invoked by uid 0); 25 Dec 1999 07:17:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19991225071701.17898.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.170.55 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:17:00 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.170.55] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Jennifer Jason Leigh Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:17:00 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Someone posted a query to the list, recently, regarding Jennifer Jason Leigh. Fellow Mannlister Sean O'Callaghan just emailed me catching me up in a private email on his visit to Largo back in October. The outstanding Ms. Leigh was in attendance that night and went in back with Aimee, so it stands to reason she might be a semi-regular, so NO, your eyes probably did not deceive you this last time in December. It almost makes certain that I DID spot Janeane Garofalo in the audience on one of my visits, but that one IS uncorroborated. I think Leigh's appreciation of Mann is interesting as I think their careers mirror each other in some ways. Jennifer is an OUTSTANDING actress who takes all sorts of risks and is brilliant yet is constantly passed over when it's time to hand out the nominations. Glaringly robbed for Washington Square and Mrs. Parker. (phenomonal in LAST EXIT TO BROOKLYN as well). I know now that I must be on the C or D list, as I never made it past the bar at Largo. :-( I guess P.T. Anderson isn't Aimee's only famous fan, and why don't more of them us their celebrity to get Aimee on their pictures? I am going to start bringing my autograph book to Largo visits. I am psyched that one of my favorite actresses loves my favorite musician. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From sonichawk@hotmail.com Sat Dec 25 01:34:37 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f249.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.249]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id BAA19016 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 01:34:37 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 97219 invoked by uid 0); 25 Dec 1999 07:34:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19991225073406.97218.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.170.55 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:34:06 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.245.170.55] From: "Paul Barras" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee makes my point for me Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:34:06 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I am enclosing a brief excerpt from an Aimee article posted at P.T. Anderson site, but I would, first,like to explain the clothing issue. I posted those comments in DIRECT response to an article posted on the Mannlist in which Aimee, at some length, described the process that went into her attire for the premiere of Magnolia. If Aimee felt it was important enough to utter more than a "no comment" or laugh the line of questioning off, then it most certainly is not "off topic". It was one of the major topics of the AIMEE MANN article I was addressing. To further clarify "my" position, I think the emphasis on clothing is absurd, and I would love for Aimee and others to just expose it for how ridiculous it is by wearing whatever the hell they want. Maybe I am feeding into it by discussing it in any form, even denunciation. As for Aimee, the NON-CONFORMIST, here are her comments: {In the past few months since she broke with her label, Mann has been "extremely buoyant," she says, "for the first time in a decade." And while she's free from those corporate shackles, she still knows how to rant about her imprisonment: "I don't think those people really want me, anyway. I'm not perceived as a team player, and I'm not. If you want Britney Spears, don't sign me. 'Cuz I'm not getting the breast implants, and I'm not singing those songs, and I don't like that kind of music." She'll still do photo shoots, though, and only on her own terms - which today means not having her eyebrows shaped by the makeup artist. "It's my last act of rebellion," she says, laughing. Well. maybe not her last.} Copyright 1999 Nylon Magazine - Elizabeth Wallace - 2/00 Keep marching to your own drummer, Aimee! >From: "Daniel P. Melvold" >Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 07:45:43 -0800 > >While I appreciate the fact a lot of people out there think of Aimee as a >non-conformist. I personally think she has standards for her work and is >not willing to compromise them. I don't think this is slapping society in >the face; but rather, being true to yourself and your ablities. Why anyone >would be surprised that Aimee "dressed up" for the premiere of "Magnolia" >amazes me. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Sat Dec 25 11:26:07 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA06051 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 11:26:06 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.21da1b9d (4227) for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 12:25:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.21da1b9d.2596580d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 12:25:33 EST Subject: Re: Jennifer Jason Leigh To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN You forgot Georgina, which Jennifer got excelent reviews in. Mare Whitingham was suppse to be good to. Andrea >From mvfisk@gj.net Sat Dec 25 21:59:32 1999 Received: from mail2.gj.net (mail2.gj.net [216.169.69.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id VAA26962 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 21:59:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.65.104] by mail2.gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id AE4F7330112; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 20:41:03 MST Message-ID: <3865921D.C3A03481@gj.net> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 20:57:17 -0700 From: "Michael T. Fisk" Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Organization: Unknown Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: Magnolia review Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------13693F771EC990DB45F15DC3" Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --------------13693F771EC990DB45F15DC3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those 2 or 3 Mannlisters who haven't gotten theirs yet, here is my humbly submitted and admittedly biased review: Aimee Mann always seems to surprise me, and so far I have never been disappointed. The songs on Magnolia are arranged with more orchestral parts, but none of her lyrical or melodic genius has been obscured. Her previously released cover of Harry Nilsson's "One" leads it off, thoughtful and suitably morose. She picks up the tempo with "Momentum," which reminds me musically of "Will She Just Fall Down" from Welcome Home and "Limits to Love" from Everything's Different Now. She follows with several killer ballads, including my favorite song on the album, "You Do." Practice your karaoke or lead skills with the instrumental track "Nothing is Good Enough," whose vocal version is on Bachelor #2. At first I was disappointed that this track didn't include a new lead track or something, but it's nice to have a part to fill in with my piano. "Wise Up" and "Save Me" round out Aimee's portion of the soundtrack. Two of Supertramp's greatest hits and "Dreams" by Tracy Chapman soundalike Gabrielle follow, and the album ends with Jon Brion's instrumental "Magnolia." This is another strong entry, and would be a good introduction to Aimee Mann for those whose tastes are more middle of the road. --------------13693F771EC990DB45F15DC3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    For those 2 or 3 Mannlisters who haven't gotten theirs yet, here is my
humbly submitted and admittedly biased review:
    Aimee Mann always seems to surprise me, and so far I have never been
  disappointed. The songs on Magnolia are arranged with more orchestral
  parts, but none of her lyrical or melodic genius has been obscured. Her
  previously released cover of Harry Nilsson's "One" leads it off,
  thoughtful and suitably morose. She picks up the tempo with
  "Momentum," which reminds me musically of "Will She Just Fall Down"
  from Welcome Home and "Limits to Love" from Everything's Different
  Now. She follows with several killer ballads, including my favorite song
  on the album, "You Do."   Practice your karaoke or lead skills with the
  instrumental track "Nothing is Good Enough," whose vocal version is on
  Bachelor #2.  At first I was disappointed that this track didn't include a new
  lead track or something, but it's nice to have a part to fill in with my piano.
  "Wise Up" and "Save Me" round out Aimee's portion of the soundtrack.
    Two of Supertramp's greatest hits and "Dreams" by Tracy Chapman
  soundalike Gabrielle follow, and the album ends with Jon Brion's
  instrumental "Magnolia." This is another strong entry, and would be a
  good introduction to Aimee Mann for those whose tastes are more
  middle of the road. --------------13693F771EC990DB45F15DC3-- >From mvfisk@gj.net Sat Dec 25 22:23:28 1999 Received: from mail2.gj.net (mail2.gj.net [216.169.69.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA28335 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 22:23:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.65.104] by mail2.gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A3E95C600E0; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 21:04:57 MST Message-ID: <386597B8.96A8809@gj.net> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 21:21:13 -0700 From: "Michael T. Fisk" Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Organization: Unknown Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel P. Melvold" , Aimee Mann listproc Subject: Sean Penn on line five Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Dear Daniel, Very well said in your post about Aimee Mann's clothes. She looked great. When you go to an event such as this, dress up a little. It's not selling out, it's just polite. I don't know why this is even an issue. MikeF3 >From SOC4TA@rocketmail.com Sun Dec 26 05:37:56 1999 Received: from web2901.mail.yahoo.com (web2901.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.44]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id FAA20326 for ; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 05:37:55 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 17758 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Dec 1999 11:37:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19991226113755.17757.qmail@web2901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.92.67.39] by web2901.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 03:37:54 PST Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 03:37:54 -0800 (PST) From: "SEAN O'CALLAGHAN" Subject: Momentum To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hi all! I think this subject may have been raised several times, but you know how easy it is to drift on and off this list. The brilliant song, Momentum, appears on my Australian cd single of That's Just What You Are. Does anyone know what the origin of this tune is and has it turned up anywhere else prior to Magnolia? Apologies if this is re-hashing a subject for the umpteenth time, but hey, there's joy in repetition! Sean xx _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >From mvfisk@gj.net Sun Dec 26 18:17:47 1999 Received: from mail2.gj.net (mail2.gj.net [216.169.69.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA24533 for ; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:17:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.65.222] by mail2.gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id ABCF60F0134; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:59:11 MST Message-ID: <3866AFB3.14981AD4@gj.net> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:15:47 -0700 From: "Michael T. Fisk" Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Organization: Unknown Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: To Paul, a great fan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I guess it sounded like I was flaming Paul on the clothing thing...I really didn't mean to! It seemed to go on and on and I had to open my mouth and insert my foot. I apologize for grabbing my verbal club and helping to beat up on you, Paul. I think from your other postings that you are a great Aimee Mann fan, probably 10 times more than I am and that is a lot. What I meant to say and failed to, was that we are fans and she is the star. She gets to live her life as she chooses and we watch. We each have our opinions and that is okay. When I consider all the positive things you have done to promote her, for you to get torched like this is totally unfair. I was wrong. Again, my apologies. MikeF3 >From davesdrums@yahoo.com Mon Dec 27 07:36:46 1999 Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (web118.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.99]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id HAA06579 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 07:36:45 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 27359 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Dec 1999 13:36:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19991227133641.27358.qmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [208.232.40.3] by web118.yahoomail.com; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 05:36:41 PST Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 05:36:41 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Lampel Subject: Re: MANNLIST digest 655 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Seemed to have misplaced the e-mail address. Who was burning cd's on the acoustic cafe show? thanks, Dave _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >From mvfisk@gj.net Mon Dec 27 17:02:09 1999 Received: from mail2.gj.net (mail2.gj.net [216.169.69.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA00609 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:02:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from gj.net [216.169.64.65] by mail2.gj.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A036D010084; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:03:18 MST Message-ID: <3867EF88.4F41BBDC@gj.net> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:00:25 -0700 From: "Michael T. Fisk" Reply-To: mvfisk@gj.net Organization: Unknown Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aimee Mann listproc Subject: Is WHAT with 2 F's? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >From the Denver Post Sunday, Dec. 26, 1999: Denver Post Movie Critic Steven Rosen picks "Magnolia" as number 7 on his 10 Best of 1999 list. His top ten is: 1. American Beauty; 2. The Dreamlife of Angels, 3. The Straight Story, 4. Being John Malkovich, 5. Topsy-Turvy, 6. Election, 7. Magnolia, 8. The Insider, 9. Lovers of the Arctic Circle, 10. Boys Don't Cry The Post is online at denverpost.com but I don't know if the review is available there. Here is the text of his review: Director-writer Paul Thomas Anderson's three-hour followup to "Boogie Nights" can try a man's or woman's soul at times, especially in the way he chronicles the slow death of a TV game-show producer. He also resolves some of the film's intertwined stories about one extraordinary day of life in suburban Los Angeles in much too neat a fashion. But if you want a movie that deserves to be three hours long because of its narrative and cinematic ambition, and which will haunt, scare, delight and charm you with its derring-do, this is it. Among its large, good cast is Julianne Moore, Jason Robards and Tom Cruise; Aimee Mann contributes stirring pop tunes (italics mine). It opens here Jan. 7. p.s. trivia for Mann fanatics (Mannatics?): Where do you find this quote? Aimee (laughing): "Compared to the hell on wheels I used to be! (pause)....is that with 2 F's?" \. \. \. \. \. \. \. \. \. \. \. \. \. \. \. A: at the end of "Momentum" on the "Magnolia" soundtrack. Who is she talking to? Is WHAT with 2 F's? >From skilroy@earthlink.net Mon Dec 27 22:26:16 1999 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA24519 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 22:26:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.23.212] (1Cust212.tnt19.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.23.212]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA07881 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:26:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912280426.UAA07881@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:25:34 -0500 Subject: Elliot Smith Question From: Spencer Lewis To: Pennlist Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-To: Pennlist Resent-From: Spencer Lewis Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:26:10 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I notice that Elliot is playing in the NYC area this week (one New Years Eve ticket on MSN being auctioned reached $240 today!) For you folks that attend Largo, is there any word on a new album and tour? sl np. Ani Difranco - To the teeth >From angusmcg@ix.netcom.com Mon Dec 27 23:08:32 1999 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id XAA26807 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:08:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from Default (user-38ldn0m.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.220.22] (may be forged)) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06206 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 00:08:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991227210933.00a60100@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: angusmcg@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:10:08 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Angela McGregor Subject: Re: Elliot Smith Question In-Reply-To: <199912280426.UAA07881@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_895178==_.ALT" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --=====================_895178==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed There's quite a bit of stuff about the new record on the dreamworksrecords.com site. Nothing about a tour, though. At 11:25 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >I notice that Elliot is playing in the NYC area this week (one New Years Eve >ticket on MSN being auctioned reached $240 today!) For you folks that >attend Largo, is there any word on a new album and tour? > >sl > >np. Ani Difranco - To the teeth Angela McGregor www.frigidisk.com --=====================_895178==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" There's quite a bit of stuff about the new record on the dreamworksrecords.com site.  Nothing about a tour, though.


At 11:25 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
I notice that Elliot is playing in the NYC area this week (one New Years Eve
ticket on MSN being auctioned reached $240 today!)  For you folks that
attend Largo, is there any word on a new album and tour?

sl

np. Ani Difranco - To the teeth

Angela McGregor
www.frigidisk.com --=====================_895178==_.ALT-- >From squeeze@videotron.ca Tue Dec 28 08:41:27 1999 Received: from field.videotron.net (field.videotron.net [205.151.222.108]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id IAA19438 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:41:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from videotron.ca ([207.253.209.112]) by field.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.07.30.00.05.p8) with ESMTP id <0FNG00CGRGSZAN@field.videotron.net> for mannlist@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:41:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 05:33:31 -0500 From: Dominic Subject: Subscription problems + other stuff To: The Aimee Mann List Reply-to: squeeze@videotron.ca Message-id: <3850D6FB.F2AFF47C@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey, I don't know what happened, but all of a sudden I stopped receiving messages from the list for about 1 week. I resubcribed and hopefully everything will be working fine now. Has anyone else been unsubscribed from the list before ???? I looked at the list archives and noticed someone mentionning Jennifer Jason Leigh being an Aimee fan. Well, that's great news 'cos Jennifer has been my favorite actress for about 10 years now. She made extremely good and disturbing films, the best of them being "Georgia". A great film about sibling rivalry. Anyway, take care for now and, to be honest with you, I DO think Aimee will walk out of the Golden Globes with the trophy.... Dominic Montreal >From ltucker@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us Tue Dec 28 09:14:33 1999 Received: from relay3.smtp.psi.net (relay3.smtp.psi.net [38.8.210.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA20440 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:14:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from [38.233.155.102] (helo=smtp.town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us) by relay3.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for mannlist@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id 122yKV-0006dk-00; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:14:32 -0500 Received: by smtp.town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:05:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Larry Tucker To: "mannlist (E-mail)" Subject: I know it's past Xmas...but Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:18:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN For all of you still looking for somewhere to spend that Xmas money...VIVA NOEL, the Xmas comp for Qdivision that includes Aimee's "The Christmas Song". They also have the Bachelor #2 Preview ep if you want to combine your order. http://www.qdivision.com/christmas/index.html -Tucker >From markust@mindless.com Tue Dec 28 12:36:55 1999 Received: from rmx07.iname.net (rmx07.iname.net [165.251.8.75]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id MAA03144 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:36:54 -0600 (CST) From: markust@mindless.com Received: from weba3.iname.net (weba3.iname.net [165.251.4.13]) by rmx07.iname.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA19583 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:35:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by weba3.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id NAA25530; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:35:38 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <991228133538G2.11933@weba3.iname.net> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:35:38 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: aimee mann Subject: am.com Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN i placed an order for one of those great dodo t shirts on aimeemann.com the other day. took me a few tries--i got a few error messages about my document containing no data--but i persevered and i think i was finally successful. happy new year all, tim olympia, wa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com >From Salt5@aol.com Tue Dec 28 16:48:48 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA16956 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:48:47 -0600 (CST) From: Salt5@aol.com Received: from Salt5@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.e81574f1 (4386); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:48:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.e81574f1.259a982d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:48:13 EST Subject: FAQs To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN infinitelyblue.com Thanks for your response to our new Aimee site. I got several emails from people who were confused about "RadioAimee". It works like this: infinitelyblue.com is all you need to enter to access the IB site. "RadioAimee" is not a second site, it's a monthly feature within IB. Please also note: The "Jacob Marley" track on "RadioAimee" will only be available through mid-January, until the next issue of IB comes out. January's IB will contain all new features and another rare track too. Thanks for a great year, list! Ready for another? Best, John >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Tue Dec 28 17:01:19 1999 Received: from lovelace.usfca.edu (root@lovelace.usfca.edu [138.202.192.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA17955 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:01:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.40.209] (dialup-40-209.usfca.edu [138.202.40.209]) by lovelace.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA31949 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:00:26 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.ca1be83f.259418b6@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:03:58 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: Sean Penn on line five, Mr. Blackwell Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN hi there, just checking me email after 6 days of too much food and drink - so this might have been addressed already, but....at www.etonline.com - entertaintment tonight site - there are many lovely photos of the stars of the Magnolia premiere - Ms. Mann included, sporting a lovely Betsey Johnson velvet/fake fur dress with matching jacket. she looked lovely. and why the big deal about the dress - she wears pants and tee's a lot -doesn't it feel weird to wear a tux - now and then....unless of course, you're a maitre 'd. >Of course she dressed up! When in Rome... >Personally, I'd love to see a picture taken that night. I've always thought >that Aimee was a real dish (sorry if that's not p.c. enough for you) and I'm >sure that she looked great at the Magnolia premiere. Did you guys see Elle >this month? Aimee is the bee's knees! Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From bachtold@beta.usfca.edu Tue Dec 28 17:15:40 1999 Received: from lovelace.usfca.edu (root@lovelace.usfca.edu [138.202.192.10]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA19117 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:15:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from [138.202.40.209] (dialup-40-209.usfca.edu [138.202.40.209]) by lovelace.usfca.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA32088 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:14:47 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199912241544.KAA09440@mail-relay4.idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:18:19 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold Subject: Re: Sean Penn on line five, Mr. Blackwell Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Right on Dan! it was a party, a friends party - i'd bet the family farm that even aimee thought she'd like to look nice - whats so odd about that???!!! i read the article in question and there was nothing about her (or in my interpretation of it) language that said she "abhorred" wearing dresses; she just didn't run out to buy a new one -she had one, she wore i, she looked happy - there it is. no mystery. who was it that said "the only thing that separates the humans from the apes, is our ability to accessorize." ??? now lets stop this monkey business. heh heh, couldn't resist. hope all you mannlisters had a fabulous xmas. be safe out there Dec. 31! bb >While I appreciate the fact a lot of people out there think of Aimee as a >non-conformist. I personally think she has standards for her work and is >not willing to compromise them. I don't think this is slapping society in >the face; but rather, being true to yourself and your ablities. Why anyone >would be surprised that Aimee "dressed up" for the premiere of "Magnolia" >amazes me. Aimee is not a rude person. To have snubbed or come in ratty >clothes would have been rude to her friend the director - and a slap in the >face to all that he has done with her. Sometimes you do things out of >respect to others - I realise this is a rare feat this day and age. > >To have not gone, would have also been another missed opportunity to "push" >her career. I personally don't think Aimee want's to commit career suicide >as much as be (once again) true to herself. She is doing things like >touring & interviews, which she has expressed in the past, not exactly her >favourite things to do. But I also think she knows there is an element of >publicity/support work she must do for her profession. And lately, she has >expressed a real joy in her work - which has made the touring and interviews >more pleasant to do. I know personally, I would much rather go to a movie >premiere or awards ceremony if it was for something I believed in, worked >hard for, and was proud of the work I had accomplished. > >Dan >---------- >>From: Lex >>To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >>Subject: Re: Sean Penn on line five, Mr. Blackwell >>Date: Fri, Dec 24, 1999, 7:22 AM >> > >>http://www.ptanderson.com/images/Magnolia/Premiere/LA%20Times%20Photos/mann.jp >>g >> >> >>Salt5@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Of course she dressed up! When in Rome... >>> Personally, I'd love to see a picture taken that night. >> >> >> Beth Bachtold Program Administrator USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 email: bachtold@usfca.edu "There's always room for pie!" >From chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Tue Dec 28 20:38:44 1999 Received: from ime.net (ime.net [209.90.192.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id UAA06362 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 20:38:43 -0600 (CST) From: chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Received: from z3e3c9 (1437-maine-56k.ime.net [209.90.241.232]) by ime.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA04467 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:38:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007301bf51a5$d478bf40$e8f15ad1@z3e3c9> To: Subject: Aimee contributes to City of Hope Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:38:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Asterisks mine... Myplay.com Issues Holiday Promotion (NEW YORK) - Relating to earlier briefs, Myplay.com, an online service that stores and organizes digital music files, has launched a holiday promotion that benefits the City of Hope. The promotion, which runs through Jan. 7, allows customers to send friends a personalized playlist of songs or a celebrity playlist compiled by such artists as Kid Rock, Willie Nelson, and *Aimee Mann*. The recipients can then stream the songs on the list. Myplay will donate $1 for each personalized playlist to the City of Hope, a cancer and AIDS research center. (Billboard Bulletin) © 1999 BPI Communications >From vanpelt101@hotmail.com Tue Dec 28 21:41:03 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (f215.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.215]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id VAA10242 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:41:02 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 99269 invoked by uid 0); 29 Dec 1999 03:40:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19991229034032.99268.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.252.254.58 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:40:32 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.252.254.58] From: "Jerome Gonzales" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu, mvfisk@gj.net Subject: re: Two Fs Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:40:32 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN I imagine it's Jon or one of the other band members she's speaking to. As for the Fs, a musical reference maybe. Not that my somewhat well-tuned ears pick up any Fs in there. Certainly not a sharp. Of course, my stereo could really suck... Jerome ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From Ed_Flinn@compuserve.com Tue Dec 28 22:04:29 1999 Received: from redwood.birdhouse (IDENT:flinn@mid-qbu-nqi-vty11.as.wcom.net [216.192.101.11]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id WAA11896 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:04:23 -0600 (CST) Received: (from flinn@localhost) by redwood.birdhouse (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA00443 for mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 23:04:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 23:04:14 -0500 From: Ed Flinn To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Two Fs Message-ID: <19991228230414.A436@redwood.birdhouse> Reply-To: 73127.1476@compuserve.com References: <19991229034032.99268.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <19991229034032.99268.qmail@hotmail.com>; from Jerome Gonzales on Tue, Dec 28, 1999 at 07:40:32PM -0800 Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN On Tue, Dec 28, 1999, Jerome Gonzales wrote: > > I imagine it's Jon or one of the other band members she's speaking to. As > for the Fs, a musical reference maybe. Not that my somewhat well-tuned ears > pick up any Fs in there. Certainly not a sharp. Of course, my stereo could > really suck... > My interpretation is that she's bantering while signing an autograph, and is making sure of the name of whoever she's signing it "to". -- Ed Flinn 73127.1476@compuserve.com : "Wouldn't you rather be involved in (OS/390, AIX & Tru64 for a living, : a series of colorful time-wasting Linux for the heck of it) : trends?" - Frank Zappa, 1940-1993 Keep your processor warm & happy http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ >From draper@umich.edu Wed Dec 29 13:14:25 1999 Received: from donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.163]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA28838 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:14:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from galaxian.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@galaxian.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.146]) by donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id OAA20661 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:14:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (draper@localhost) by galaxian.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/5.1-client) with ESMTP id OAA16792 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:14:22 -0500 (EST) Precedence: first-class Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:14:22 -0500 (EST) From: jimmy X-Sender: draper@galaxian.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: village voice Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN village voice has a 1st annual film poll, and Magnolia gets noticed a lot on their top 10 lists: best: cinematography (#5) screenplay (3) director (2) support performance - julianne moore (3) film (8) (there's no song award) >From MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Wed Dec 29 14:57:08 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA05418 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:57:07 -0600 (CST) From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Received: from MnnyMoNHak@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.a8ca2ef3 (4332) for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:56:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.a8ca2ef3.259bcf82@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:56:34 EST Subject: Re: "I Was Hoping..." To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN <> Wow, I never heard this. Would it be unduly gossippy to ask for further explanation? >From Kenableken@aol.com Wed Dec 29 15:05:44 1999 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA06150 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:05:43 -0600 (CST) From: Kenableken@aol.com Received: from Kenableken@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.792564f3 (3703) for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:05:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.792564f3.259bd184@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:05:08 EST Subject: Re: "I Was Hoping..." To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN >From the Geffen site: "That's a song I wrote with Jon. I wrote the lyrics. His plot instructions were: "When you and I broke up and we were trying to get back together and all my friends were saying, 'Why would you go back to that nightmare,' this song would be your answer to them.'" The word amateur means you do things for love, but all the good intentions in the world don't mean that things will go the way you want them to." >From Triton712@aol.com Wed Dec 29 15:07:13 1999 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id PAA06239 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:07:12 -0600 (CST) From: Triton712@aol.com Received: from Triton712@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.a18a756 (3863) for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:06:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.a18a756.259bd1da@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:06:34 EST Subject: Fwd: Aimee Mann Tour Dates! To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_0.a18a756.259bd1da_boundary" X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --part1_0.a18a756.259bd1da_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/29/99 2:50:09 PM Central Standard Time, newsletter@news.aimeemanndirect.com writes: (TO ME PERSONALLY) << . Please click on the link Holiday Greetings for a little extra Christmas cheer, care of Aimee Mann. >> This was cute. More than cute. Ok, ok... I admit it -- I'm pretending she sent it just to me, personally. But is it just me, or is Aimee holding Santa out like he's got a full diaper or something? --Gregory --part1_0.a18a756.259bd1da_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (rly-yh05.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.37]) by air-yh01.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:50:09 -0500 Received: from tinytim.ann0.com ([216.35.28.149]) by rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:49:58 -0500 Received: from salsa (216.35.28.151) by tinytim.ann0.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <17.00001D44@tinytim.ann0.com>; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:52:17 -0800 To: Triton712@aol.com Subject: Aimee Mann Tour Dates! From: Reply-To: info@news.aimeemanndirect.com Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:52:17 -0800 Message-ID: <199912291549.TTa015103@rly-yh05.mx.aol.com> Dear Everyone , We hope you have been having a happy holiday season. Please click on the link Holiday Greetings for a little extra Christmas cheer, care of Aimee Mann. Some of you already know about Aimee's upcoming tour with Michael Penn. The complete list of dates appears below. We expect many of these shows to sell out so please don't wait until the last minute to purchase tickets if you wish to attend. Jan 5 The Tonight Show / Aimee will play "Save Me" Jan 8 Borders Books Santa Monica / Aimee Mann afternoon in store appearance Aimee Mann & Michael Penn tour Jan 25 Bimbo's 365 Club San Francisco, CA Jan 28 Aladdin Theater Portland, OR Jan 29 The Showbox Seattle, WA Feb 7 Rams Head Tavern Annapolis MD Feb 8 Birchmere Music Hall Alexandria VA Feb 11 The Theater of the Living Arts Philadelphia PA Feb 12 The Somerville Theater, Somerville, MA (Boston, Cambridge) Feb 13 Lupos Heartbreak Hotel Providence, RI Feb 15,16,17 Joe's Pub New York City, NY Please check out Official Site for the latest news and Official Store for T-shirts and CD's. Happy New Year! If you do not wish to receive future Aimee Mann mailings, click below: Unsubscribe Please do not remove this tracking code annmn:[6334B0334B46WId01200mTYIiTYLL] --part1_0.a18a756.259bd1da_boundary-- >From yuma77@hotmail.com Wed Dec 29 17:26:45 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f295.hotmail.com [209.185.130.234]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id RAA19154 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:26:45 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 56045 invoked by uid 0); 29 Dec 1999 23:26:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19991229232614.56044.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.158.49.34 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:26:14 PST X-Originating-IP: [207.158.49.34] From: "Mark Wright" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: Aimee Mann Tour Dates! Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:26:14 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Does anyone know what time is the Borders book store appearance in Santa Monica? Mark >From: Triton712@aol.com >Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu >Subject: Fwd: Aimee Mann Tour Dates! >Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:06:34 EST > >In a message dated 12/29/99 2:50:09 PM Central Standard Time, >newsletter@news.aimeemanndirect.com writes: (TO ME PERSONALLY) > ><< . Please click on the link HREF="http://news.artistdirect.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/mcp?p=633450334B46WId01200mT >YIiTYLL"> Holiday Greetings for a little extra Christmas cheer, care >of >Aimee Mann. >> > >This was cute. More than cute. Ok, ok... I admit it -- I'm pretending she >sent it just to me, personally. > >But is it just me, or is Aimee holding Santa out like he's got a full >diaper >or something? > > --Gregory ><< message3.txt >> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Wed Dec 29 17:30:17 1999 Received: from ime.net (ime.net [209.90.192.3]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id RAA19225 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:30:16 -0600 (CST) From: chrisbeckwith@bigfoot.com Received: from z3e3c9 (1342-maine-56k.ime.net [209.90.241.137]) by ime.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA10227 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 18:30:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003601bf5254$ad8a0f60$89f15ad1@z3e3c9> To: References: <0.a18a756.259bd1da@aol.com> Subject: Re: Aimee Mann Tour Dates! Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 18:30:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Gregory wrote: > But is it just me, or is Aimee holding Santa out like he's got a full diaper > or something? Well, it's a little baby Santa, so maybe you're onto something there... :) Happy holidays all, Chris >From skilroy@earthlink.net Thu Dec 30 09:59:50 1999 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA13010 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 09:59:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from [63.28.20.51] (1Cust51.tnt18.nyc3.da.uu.net [63.28.20.51]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08153 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 07:59:48 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:59:48 -0500 Subject: Re: I know it's past Xmas...but From: Spencer Lewis To: "mannlist (E-mail)" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN The cd also has some other very cool tracks on it including "The Christmas Song" by Jen Trynin. sl > From: Larry Tucker > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:18:26 -0500 > To: "mannlist (E-mail)" > Subject: I know it's past Xmas...but > > For all of you still looking for somewhere to spend that Xmas money...VIVA > NOEL, the Xmas comp for Qdivision that includes Aimee's "The Christmas > Song". They also have the Bachelor #2 Preview ep if you want to combine your > order. > > http://www.qdivision.com/christmas/index.html > > -Tucker > >From cadams04@hotmail.com Thu Dec 30 11:17:09 1999 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f127.hotmail.com [216.32.181.127]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id LAA15889 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:17:08 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 8580 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 1999 17:16:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19991230171638.8579.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.26.166.159 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 09:16:37 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.26.166.159] From: "Craig Adams" To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee and Michael Tour Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:16:37 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Long time lurker...first time poster. Do any of you fine Mannlisters know about ticket availability for the Somerville, MA show on February 12. I live in Texas but plan to travel to Boston for that show since it appears the tour will not come through the Lone Star State. Thank you! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >From sproude@earthlink.net Thu Dec 30 11:40:13 1999 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id LAA17995 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:40:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from earthlink.net (dialup-63.210.136.96.Boston1.Level3.net [63.210.136.96]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26523 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 09:40:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <386B9957.C7E86CC8@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 12:41:43 -0500 From: SMP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee and Michael Tour References: <19991230171638.8579.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Craig Adams wrote: > Long time lurker...first time poster. > > Do any of you fine Mannlisters know about ticket availability for the > Somerville, MA show on February 12. I live in Texas but plan to travel to > Boston for that show since it appears the tour will not come through the > Lone Star State. > > Thank you! > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com i am going to that show as well..ticketmaster last time i checked didn't have the info yet..the theater on the other hand says to call ticketmaster. I am just continually checking. see you there :) >From sharkyd1@yahoo.com Thu Dec 30 12:45:01 1999 Received: from web1704.mail.yahoo.com (web1704.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.215]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id MAA21422 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 12:45:00 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 7780 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Dec 1999 18:44:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19991230184457.7779.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web1704.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:44:57 PST Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:44:57 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Downey Subject: Re: Aimee and Michael Tour To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1681692777-946579497=:7508" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-1681692777-946579497=:7508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey you guys, I'm planning on going too. Does anyone know what the venue is like? I've never been there. SMP wrote: Craig Adams wrote: > Do any of you fine Mannlisters know about ticket availability for the > Somerville, MA show on February 12 i am going to that show as well..ticketmaster last time i checked didn't have the info yet..the theater on the other hand says to call ticketmaster. I am just continually checking. see you there :) --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1681692777-946579497=:7508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hey you guys, I'm planning on going too. Does anyone know what the venue is like? I've never been there.

SMP <sproude@earthlink.net> wrote:

Craig Adams wrote:

> Do any of you fine Mannlisters know about ticket availability for the
> Somerville, MA show on February 12

i am going to that show as well..ticketmaster last time i checked didn't have
the info yet..the theater on the other hand says to call ticketmaster. I am
just continually checking.

see you there :)


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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1681692777-946579497=:7508-- >From Dex@LevonsWake.com Thu Dec 30 13:00:59 1999 Received: from mail-out.visi.com (kauket.visi.com [209.98.98.22]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA21839 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:00:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from box (171-97.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.171.97]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B80D43796 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:00:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006f01bf52f8$72dac450$0aaa62d1@box> From: "Dexter St.George" To: Subject: Tour info in general Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 12:59:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0063_01BF52C5.C2483410" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BF52C5.C2483410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, Just found her web site and added myself to the email list and such (her = 'notification/news' list as well as this one) but didn't see, or yet = receive, any info about shows/dates other than the three CA shows this = month. Where does one get the more complete show/date info that Craig = and SMP obviously have? Dex ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BF52C5.C2483410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
Just found her web site and added = myself to the=20 email list and such (her 'notification/news' list as well as this one) = but=20 didn't see, or yet receive, any info about shows/dates other than the = three CA=20 shows this month.  Where does one get the more complete show/date = info that=20 Craig and SMP obviously have?
 
Dex
 
------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BF52C5.C2483410-- >From bobmah@MIT.EDU Thu Dec 30 13:06:25 1999 Received: from MIT.EDU (SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.72.1.2]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id NAA22110 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:06:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA25800; Thu, 30 Dec 99 14:06:09 EST Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA23426 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [18.177.0.98] (WINGNUT.MIT.EDU [18.177.0.98]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA25428; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:06:23 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bobmah@po12.mit.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991230184457.7779.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <19991230184457.7779.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:06:04 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Bob Mahoney Subject: Re: Aimee and Michael Tour Cc: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN At 10:44 AM -0800 12/30/99, Mark Downey wrote: >Hey you guys, I'm planning on going too. Does anyone know what the >venue is like? I've never been there. It's a nice place. A great place to see a show. They have small live shows there, and also show movies (frequently second-run and art flicks). Lots of nice restaurants and pubs in the area. (Very trendy spot) Cool coffee shop next door. If you're moving around via the T, it's the Davis Square stop on the Red Line. Looking forward to dragging my friends to this show! -Bob >From sharkyd1@yahoo.com Thu Dec 30 13:15:19 1999 Received: from web1703.mail.yahoo.com (web1703.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.214]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with SMTP id NAA22457 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:15:18 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 23379 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Dec 1999 19:15:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19991230191517.23378.qmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web1703.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:15:17 PST Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:15:17 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Downey Subject: Re: Tour info in general To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-846930886-946581317=:21447" Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN --0-846930886-946581317=:21447 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From:"Paul Barras" | Block addressTo:mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.eduSubject:Official dates so far & more 411Date:Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:14:06 PSTReply-to:mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Here are the dates for the upcoming Michael Penn/Aimee Mann tour:Jan. 25, San Francisco, Bimbo'sJan. 28, Portland, Ore., AladdinJan. 29, Seattle, ShowboxFeb. 7, Annapolis, Md., The RamsheadFeb. 8, Alexandria, Va., The BirchmereFeb. 11, Philadelphia, The TLAFeb. 12, Somerville, Mass., The Somerville TheaterFeb. 13, Providence, R.I., LuposFeb. 15-17, New York, Joe's Pub "Dexter St.George" wrote: Hey, Just found her web site and added myself to the email list and such (her 'notification/news' list as well as this one) but didn't see, or yet receive, any info about shows/dates other than the three CA shows this month. Where does one get the more complete show/date info that Craig and SMP obviously have? Dex --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-846930886-946581317=:21447 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

From: "Paul Barras" <sonichawk@hotmail.com>  | Block address
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Official dates so far & more 411
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:14:06 PST
Reply-to: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu

Here are the dates for the upcoming Michael Penn/Aimee Mann tour:

Jan. 25, San Francisco, Bimbo's
Jan. 28, Portland, Ore., Aladdin
Jan. 29, Seattle, Showbox
Feb. 7, Annapolis, Md., The Ramshead
Feb. 8, Alexandria, Va., The Birchmere
Feb. 11, Philadelphia, The TLA
Feb. 12, Somerville, Mass., The Somerville Theater
Feb. 13, Providence, R.I., Lupos
Feb. 15-17, New York, Joe's Pub
"Dexter St.George" <Dex@LevonsWake.com> wrote:
Hey,
 
Just found her web site and added myself to the email list and such (her 'notification/news' list as well as this one) but didn't see, or yet receive, any info about shows/dates other than the three CA shows this month.  Where does one get the more complete show/date info that Craig and SMP obviously have?
 
Dex
 

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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-846930886-946581317=:21447-- >From Mhausman@aol.com Thu Dec 30 13:56:42 1999 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA01616 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:56:41 -0600 (CST) From: Mhausman@aol.com Received: from Mhausman@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.33f3b119 (3864) for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:56:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.33f3b119.259d12d6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:56:06 EST Subject: Re: Tour info in general To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Claris Emailer v2.0 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Some of you already know about Aimee's upcoming tour with Michael Penn. The complete list of dates appears below. We expect many of these shows to sell out so please don't wait until the last minute to purchase tickets if you wish to attend. Jan 5 The Tonight Show / Aimee will play "Save Me" Jan 8 Borders Books Santa Monica / Aimee Mann afternoon in store appearance Aimee Mann & Michael Penn tour Jan 25 Bimbo's 365 Club San Francisco, CA Jan 28 Aladdin Theater Portland, OR Jan 29 The Showbox Seattle, WA Feb 7 Rams Head Tavern Annapolis MD Feb 8 Birchmere Music Hall Alexandria VA Feb 11 The Theater of the Living Arts Philadelphia PA Feb 12 The Somerville Theater, Somerville, MA (Boston, Cambridge) Feb 13 Lupos Heartbreak Hotel Providence, RI Feb 15,16,17 Joe's Pub New York City, NY Please check out http://aimeemann.com for the latest news and http://www.aimeemanndirect for T-shirts and CD's Happy New Year! Michael Hausman Artist Management 1508 Capistrano Ave. Glendale, CA 91208 phone 818-552-2989 fax 818-552-3449 email MHausman@aol.com >From Dex@LevonsWake.com Thu Dec 30 14:01:03 1999 Received: from mail-out.visi.com (kauket.visi.com [209.98.98.22]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id OAA02168 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from box (171-18.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.171.18]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B3A3136F8 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:01:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <009801bf5300$d7282120$0aaa62d1@box> From: "Dexter St.George" To: Subject: Re: Tour info in general Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:42:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0091_01BF52CB.B18DC440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01BF52CB.B18DC440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gracias all. Looks like a 'coasts only' tour, huh. "I gotta get outta = 'dis place...!" -----Original Message----- From: Mark Downey To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Tour info in general From: "Paul Barras" | Block address=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Subject: Official dates so far & more 411=20 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:14:06 PST=20 Reply-to: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 =20 Here are the dates for the upcoming Michael Penn/Aimee Mann tour: Jan. 25, San Francisco, Bimbo's Jan. 28, Portland, Ore., Aladdin Jan. 29, Seattle, Showbox Feb. 7, Annapolis, Md., The Ramshead Feb. 8, Alexandria, Va., The Birchmere Feb. 11, Philadelphia, The TLA Feb. 12, Somerville, Mass., The Somerville Theater Feb. 13, Providence, R.I., Lupos Feb. 15-17, New York, Joe's Pub "Dexter St.George" wrote: Hey, =20 Just found her web site and added myself to the email list and such = (her 'notification/news' list as well as this one) but didn't see, or = yet receive, any info about shows/dates other than the three CA shows = this month. Where does one get the more complete show/date info that = Craig and SMP obviously have? =20 Dex =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01BF52CB.B18DC440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gracias all.  Looks like a = 'coasts only'=20 tour, huh.  "I gotta get outta 'dis = place...!"
 
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Mark Downey <sharkyd1@yahoo.com>
To: = mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu= =20 <mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu= >
Date:=20 Thursday, December 30, 1999 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Tour info = in=20 general

=
From: "Paul Barras" <sonichawk@hotmail.com> =20 | Block=20 address
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=
Subject: Official dates so far & more 411
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:14:06 PST
Reply-to:mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu

Here =
are the dates for the upcoming Michael Penn/Aimee Mann tour:

Jan. 25, San Francisco, Bimbo's
Jan. 28, Portland, Ore., Aladdin
Jan. 29, Seattle, Showbox
Feb. 7, Annapolis, Md., The Ramshead
Feb. 8, Alexandria, Va., The Birchmere
Feb. 11, Philadelphia, The TLA
Feb. 12, Somerville, Mass., The Somerville Theater
Feb. 13, Providence, R.I., Lupos
Feb. 15-17, New York, Joe's Pub
"Dexter =
St.George" <Dex@LevonsWake.com> wrote:
Hey,
 
Just found her web site and = added myself to=20 the email list and such (her 'notification/news' list as well as = this one)=20 but didn't see, or yet receive, any info about shows/dates other = than the=20 three CA shows this month.  Where does one get the more = complete=20 show/date info that Craig and SMP obviously have?
 
Dex
 

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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01BF52CB.B18DC440-- >From Pooley29@aol.com Thu Dec 30 16:25:01 1999 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA08616 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:25:00 -0600 (CST) From: Pooley29@aol.com Received: from Pooley29@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.dc517c03 (4252) for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:24:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.dc517c03.259d358d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:24:13 EST Subject: Re: Tour info in general To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 47 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Hey People, Seems like we got quite a few Boston area mannlisters. Would be cool to meet up with all of you before this show. Any suggestions? John Poole >From MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Thu Dec 30 16:27:33 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id QAA08775 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:27:33 -0600 (CST) From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Received: from MnnyMoNHak@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.893938b7 (3845) for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:26:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.893938b7.259d3630@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:26:56 EST Subject: Sonicnet review To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 78 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu id QAA08776 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN A positive, if boring, review from Sonicnet yesterday.... "Magnolia" Soundtrack, Various Artists (Reprise) It's Time For Your Close-Up, Ms. Mann ... Also with tracks by Gabrielle and Supertramp. By Ben Auburn Like the movie it's from, this soundtrack is an unusual beast. Paul Thomas Anderson wrote and directed his film around songs by Aimee Mann, the former 'Til Tuesday leader whose solo career has become a kind of Sisyphean legend in the music business, weathering label foldings and sales. Anderson's career has been the opposite — he's responsible for the well-received "Hard Eight" and the Oscar-nominated "Boogie Nights" — but it's not hard to picture him as the ultimate Aimee Mann fan. Like Mann, Anderson is interested in the experiences of loss and regret, as well as the sometimes unhealthy ways people find to cope with such experiences. Anderson struck up a friendship with Mann just as he was beginning work on "Magnolia," and, as he says in the soundtrack's liner notes: "For instance, in my original [emphasis his] ... screenplay, Claudia ... says, 'Now that I've met you, would you object to never seeing me again?' I must come clean. I did not write that line. Aimee Mann wrote that line as the opening of her song, 'Deathly,' and I wrote backwards from that line ... It equals the heart and soul of 'Magnolia.' All stories for the movie were written branching off from Claudia, so one could do the math and realize that all stories come from Aimee's brain, not mine." Mann may not agree — the movie is more than three hours, after all — but it's true that her songs are more than just window dressing. Indeed (and skip ahead to the next paragraph if you don't want a stylistic twist of the movie spoiled), near the end of the film, each of the characters sing a portion of Mann's "Wise Up" (RealAudio excerpt) to the camera. Along with a cover of Harry Nilsson's familiar "One" (" ... is the loneliest number") and "Momentum," an old B-side, Mann contributes seven new songs to the soundtrack, a few of which will appear on her next solo record. In general, the songs are more restrained than those on her last record, I'm With Stupid, with fewer muscled riffs and more quiet reflection. Of the new songs, "Save Me" (RealAudio excerpt) (one of the few that didn't exist as a demo before Anderson wrote his screenplay) is the punchiest — though even it's holding back a bit, as if Mann were worried she'd draw too much attention away from the actors on the screen. Mann's way with a somber hook continues to be absolutely winning, though, and songs such as "Save Me," "Deathly" and "Driving Sideways" (RealAudio excerpt) will, after a few listens, no doubt stick in your head something fierce. In addition, the soundtrack features a lovely excerpt from the score by Mann's frequent collaborator Jon Brion (who also produced and arranged the latest record by Anderson's current squeeze, Fiona Apple), plus the familiar club hit "Dream," by Gabrielle, and two Supertramp songs you thought you'd forgotten. [Wed., December 29, 12:02 AM EST] >From Zabadak900@aol.com Fri Dec 31 09:13:48 1999 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id JAA21027 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:13:47 -0600 (CST) From: Zabadak900@aol.com Received: from Zabadak900@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.21ebfbea (2717) for ; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:13:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.21ebfbea.259e2208@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:13:12 EST Subject: Re: Sonicnet review To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Yes, wasn't it a great review.. If only it had been rated 5 stars and not the 3 stars that "SonicNet" gave it. I guess the Supertramp tracks pulled it down a wee bit. Cyrinda >From Zabadak900@aol.com Fri Dec 31 13:18:08 1999 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id NAA01627 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:18:08 -0600 (CST) From: Zabadak900@aol.com Received: from Zabadak900@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.8f04d9f5 (2706) for ; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:17:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.8f04d9f5.259e5b4d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:17:33 EST Subject: Re: Tour info in general To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN For those Mannsters who feel bypassed ( hey does this tour have a name?) I might suggest subscribing to the many airline short-notice cheapy flights that exist. Southwest flies into Providence,and there are a few weekend shows that, should connections be right, you may just be able to access.. Us Air has a hub in Wash, DC at Reagan National, as does Southwest at B.W.I. which is in the near-burbs. Cyrinda >From AWeiss4338@aol.com Fri Dec 31 18:29:43 1999 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.66]) by mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/mcfeeley.mc-1.26) with ESMTP id SAA17209 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:29:42 -0600 (CST) From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Received: from AWeiss4338@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id g.0.c1005b8c (4426) for ; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:29:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.c1005b8c.259ea453@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:29:07 EST Subject: WXPN top 50 countdown To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 39 Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Sender: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Philly's WXPN does it's 50 best of the year albums during X-mass week. Sorry to say Magnolia or B#2 Ep didn't chart, but that's not because she isn't popular with the listeners to this station. The voting had been on for some time when Magnolia came out, and I suspect it was too late in the contest for it to garner enough votes to chart. Same with B#2, although they didn't play it, I'm sure they'll play the full album when it comes out. Magnolia was the featured album of the wek a few weeks ago. # on this chart was Beth Orton's Central Reservation. Something of a surprise to me, it's a good album but I'm not sure it deserves this status. If I'd been able to vote (couldn't get on to the website) Magnolia would have been #1 and Beth #2. Andrea ------------------------------ Cut here ------------------------------