From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V16 #99 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to * her facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/PattyGriffin * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V16 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. * . * Also, PLEASE do not quote an entire digest when you reply to the * list. Edit out anything you are not referring to. * NOTE!! If you DO quote an entire digest, it will automatically be * deleted and not sent on to the list. mad-mission-digest Thursday, August 8 2013 Volume 16 : Number 099 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: digests [Matt Bouchie ] Re: MM: digests [Mike Connell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 08:18:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bouchie Subject: MM: digests Bruce said: "I know I'm as guilty of this as anyone. In my defense, if I have to take the time to edit the bottom part of the email I will think twice about posting. I can whip out a response to a message pretty quickly, focusing on what I want to say and assuming people are sharp enough to see the thread below me and understanding where I'm coming from. But the extra time it takes to decide what to take out and what to leave in, and then to put the quote around it appropriately (especially if I'm writing from my phone) is time and brain consuming enough to make me hesitate. I know that for people on digests this is very annoying, but those of us who get every email, it isn't an issue at all. And geez, there is so little email going through here these days, how much of an issue is it to scroll a bit more. And that's my defense, for what it's worth. I will try and be a better citizen here." The points you give in your defense are just rationalizations to justify bad behavior. Between the problems with emails not showing up in the digests for days or weeks, emails being completely out of order in the digests and a prevailing attitude like this one, it's no wonder people left in droves with the recent spate of activity. I'd guarantee most of them were digesters like me. The ones who emailed the list asking to be removed probably couldn't find the instructions in the horrible mess the digests have become. Seriously, it takes 2 seconds to edit your post. Not only that, it's very discourteous to not do so. I'm on other lists where you would be called out publicly by 20 or more people for this behavior. And those are Yahoo groups digests which have a much more organized and easy to read format than this list. I don't want to switch to the news only version of this list but I may end up doing that. At least I'll be "sharp enough" to follow that. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:41:49 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: MM: digests At 11:18 AM 8/4/2013, Matt Bouchie wrote: > it's no wonder people left in droves with the recent spate of > activity. I'd guarantee most of them were digesters like me. No, not even close. I'd say, well, certainly less than 10%, more like less than 5%. Honest. > I don't want to switch to the news only version of this list but > I may end up doing that. The news version was discontinued last summer. This regular list is slow enough that it makes no sense to have a news-only version. To be honest, it makes a LOT more sense now to be on loose-mail rather than digest. On the average VERY few posts a week, even on busy days it MIGHT be ten posts, and you do not have to worry about posts out of order or not showing up in a digest for a few week. I apologize for this digest dilemma of posts out of order or weeks before publishing in the digest, but you all know it is out of my hands. Mike ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V16 #99 *********************************