From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V16 #41 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to * her facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/PattyGriffin * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V16 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. * . * Also, PLEASE do not quote an entire digest when you reply to the * list. Edit out anything you are not referring to. * NOTE!! If you DO quote an entire digest, it will automatically be * deleted and not sent on to the list. mad-mission-digest Thursday, May 9 2013 Volume 16 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: MM: Tonight Show appearance ["Stewart, Connie" ] Re: MM: Tonight Show appearance [Gina Luzzi ] MM: Tonight Show appearance ["Lawrence Israelson" ] Re: MM: L.A. pre-sale? [Lisa Ridlon ] Re: MM: Tonight Show appearance [Lisa Ridlon ] [none] [Mike Connell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 00:15:25 +0000 From: "Stewart, Connie" Subject: RE: MM: Tonight Show appearance Being a longtime Patty Griffin fan since hearing her very first album on KINK-FM in Portland, OR, I just totally fell in love with just her and her guitar. I was not so much a fan of Flaming Red - just too over-produced. I love, love, love all of the songs on 1000 kisses, A Kiss in Time, Impossible Dream and Children Running Through. I play these all the time and just never get tired of them. I'm not crazy about her and Robert Plant's collaboration - it's just too rough. I love Patty with just Patty - She doesn't need anybody else to try to make it any better, as I feel she has the most amazing voice out there. I saw her performance on Tonight Show and didn't think it was one of her best. If you're trying to garner a larger fan base, I would not have made the choice of "Don't Let Me Die in Florida" to showcase myself. I realize she is promoting her new album and I have not heard it yet (it's coming!), but I hope it's going to lend itself more like my favorite albums and not the rough stuff... Actually, I think a collaboration with Jimmy LaFave would be Ahhhh..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 13:31:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Gina Luzzi Subject: Re: MM: Tonight Show appearance autolearn=failed version=3.1.5 X-Greylist: Delayed for 00:03:07 by milter-greylist-2.0 (smoe.org [199.201.145.78]); Thu, 09 May 2013 16:34:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org Precedence: bulk I can agree with some of your points. I had never heard the song before that performance and had a hard time parsing the lyrics. Patty always has interesting lyrics, so I was disappointed they weren't more clear.B I might get in trouble for this, but I really have no desire to see Robert Plant perform with her. I don't dislike his past work or his voice. But I did not care for his collaboration with Allison Krauss and thought he was the reason that many of those songs sounded like they had the life sucked out of them. I just prefer to see and hear Patty shine on her own without unnecessary distractions. ________________________________ From: Lawrence Israelson To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:56 PM Subject: MM: Tonight Show appearance Yes, I realize that it's presumptuous of me to play armchair quarterback. I've never had the responsibility of putting together an album-cutting the lesser material, sequencing, choosing the first single, etc. That said, in my opinion there has always been a wide gulf between the quality of Patty's music and the effectiveness of her marketing. This week's Tonight Show appearance struck me as the latest in a long line of missed opportunities. Pounce on me if I'm out of line, but is there anybody on this list that feels that was the most effective way to introduce "American Kid" to millions of potential buyers? Think of it this way: if you were trying to "hook" somebody on Patty Griffin, or just trying to convince someone to check out her new CD, would your introductory song be "Don't Let Me Die In Florida"? As I see it, Patty's greatest strengths are 1) her beautiful, versatile and expressive voice, and 2) her ability to expose universal truths in a deceptively simple phrase (for example, "How hard would it have been to say some kinder words instead?"). With a national stage, how about saying, "I wrote this for my father," and performing "Go Wherever You Wanna Go"? Or walking out with just an acoustic guitar and singing the heart-rending "Wild Old Dog"? Or even the far less substantial "Get Ready Marie", playfully delivering some of the lines with a guttural French accent the way she sometimes does in her live shows? Plus, shameless though it might have been, a tambourine-rattling Robert Plant in the background could have helped, too. OK, end of rant. Larry I in L.A.

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B Unlimited Email Storage b POP3 b Calendar b SMS b Translator b Much More! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 12:56:52 -0700 From: "Lawrence Israelson" Subject: MM: Tonight Show appearance Yes, I realize that it's presumptuous of me to play armchair quarterback. I've never had the responsibility of putting together an album-cutting the lesser material, sequencing, choosing the first single, etc. That said, in my opinion there has always been a wide gulf between the quality of Patty's music and the effectiveness of her marketing. This week's Tonight Show appearance struck me as the latest in a long line of missed opportunities. Pounce on me if I'm out of line, but is there anybody on this list that feels that was the most effective way to introduce "American Kid" to millions of potential buyers? Think of it this way: if you were trying to "hook" somebody on Patty Griffin, or just trying to convince someone to check out her new CD, would your introductory song be "Don't Let Me Die In Florida"? As I see it, Patty's greatest strengths are 1) her beautiful, versatile and expressive voice, and 2) her ability to expose universal truths in a deceptively simple phrase (for example, "How hard would it have been to say some kinder words instead?"). With a national stage, how about saying, "I wrote this for my father," and performing "Go Wherever You Wanna Go"? Or walking out with just an acoustic guitar and singing the heart-rending "Wild Old Dog"? Or even the far less substantial "Get Ready Marie", playfully delivering some of the lines with a guttural French accent the way she sometimes does in her live shows? Plus, shameless though it might have been, a tambourine-rattling Robert Plant in the background could have helped, too. OK, end of rant. Larry I in L.A.

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Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 19:18:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Lisa Ridlon Subject: Re: MM: L.A. pre-sale? There's a couple presales for LA according to the livenation link: http://concerts.livenation.com/event/09004AA3E4558CF6?crosssite=TM_US:769148: 73790 Looks like you need a Citi card for one and a Live Nation password (or use the iPhone app) for the other one: Onsale to General Public Start: Fri, 05/10/13 10:00 AM PDT CitiB. Cardmember Presale Start: Thu, 05/09/13 10:00 AM PDT End: Thu, 05/09/13 10:00 PM PDT Live Nation Mobile App Presale Download the Live Nation iPhone App now to access Live Nation Mobile App Presales. Browse, search, and discover concerts for your favorite artists near you; get alerts on presales, onsales, and last minute tickets; and easily and quickly purchase tickets while in the app. Check out set lists on the go, check in with your friends, view your ticket info, seating charts, exclusive photos, videos and more/ Click Here for More Information Start: Thu, 05/09/13 10:00 AM PDT End: Thu, 05/09/13 10:00 PM PDT Live Nation Presale Start: Thu, 05/09/13 10:00 AM PDT End: Thu, 05/09/13 10:00 PM PDT - -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Israelson To: mad-mission Sent: Wed, May 8, 2013 3:58 pm Subject: MM: L.A. pre-sale? Patty will be playing The Wiltern here in L.A. on Tuesday, June 25. Is anybody aware of a pre-sale and, if so, could you please share the password? Thanks! Larry I in L.A.

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Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 19:40:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Lisa Ridlon Subject: Re: MM: Tonight Show appearance (64.12.255.130) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 09 May 2013 18:54:23 -0400 Message-Id: <8D01B1F48645F25-2D18-28273@webmail-vm009.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [99.7.107.178] Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 18:54:23 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1368140063; bh=tGDAuVa3ybmE/yiRDoX60ktOSkh1A9dzYjjPZA6tg6w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=THzmyNtIdPMOoRKzYoirWriMuZ+RUzzigg2RUuUQ/JRnyBRgw+Arf18tPXEautToI dz3cDJXLh3iUWJmNXoxxHto83+qCSZsIX4GU6Cyf3UbhuVDCFhr/5Zjr2W9R+8F+R1 pRZJ99YvLZEPna+pyvyVxF+qaCv7SEgHOMeSJyQc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:469649760:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e518c291f2327 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on jane.smoe.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS,HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.1.5 X-Greylist: Delayed for 00:06:09 by milter-greylist-2.0 (smoe.org [199.201.145.78]); Thu, 09 May 2013 19:01:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org Precedence: bulk I think Don't Let Me Die in Florida is my favorite on the whole cd and I love the rocking-ness of it. I missed the performance, though. (Anyone figured out the presale password for the LA show?) - -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Israelson To: mad-mission Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 1:00 pm Subject: MM: Tonight Show appearance Yes, I realize that it's presumptuous of me to play armchair quarterback. I've never had the responsibility of putting together an album-cutting the lesser material, sequencing, choosing the first single, etc. That said, in my opinion there has always been a wide gulf between the quality of Patty's music and the effectiveness of her marketing. This week's Tonight Show appearance struck me as the latest in a long line of missed opportunities. Pounce on me if I'm out of line, but is there anybody on this list that feels that was the most effective way to introduce "American Kid" to millions of potential buyers? Think of it this way: if you were trying to "hook" somebody on Patty Griffin, or just trying to convince someone to check out her new CD, would your introductory song be "Don't Let Me Die In Florida"? As I see it, Patty's greatest strengths are 1) her beautiful, versatile and expressive voice, and 2) her ability to expose universal truths in a deceptively simple phrase (for example, "How hard would it have been to say some kinder words instead?"). With a national stage, how about saying, "I wrote this for my father," and performing "Go Wherever You Wanna Go"? Or walking out with just an acoustic guitar and singing the heart-rending "Wild Old Dog"? Or even the far less substantial "Get Ready Marie", playfully delivering some of the lines with a guttural French accent the way she sometimes does in her live shows? Plus, shameless though it might have been, a tambourine-rattling Robert Plant in the background could have helped, too. OK, end of rant. Larry I in L.A.

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Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 22:37:58 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: [none] Subject: Re: MM: Tonight Show appearance From: Lisa Zwick Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 20:31:49 -0400 To: mad-mission@smoe.org Thanks! Just watched it. Haven't heard the album yet (I'm kind of afraid that it won't live up to my expectations, so I've been pushing it off), and don't have strong feelings yet about this song. But damn, it's good to see Patty back in action. She doesn't even look like she's aged a day since I last saw her (2007?). And I love the "Lacquer Thinner" instrument. Very cool. Although I am sad that it seems she's not playing any proper NYC concerts. A free outdoor show doesn't cut it. Usually that just means crappy sound and a noisy, disinterested, drunk crowd. Normally I wouldn't even bother with those types of concerts, but how can I miss out on Patty?! I was really hoping to see her in a proper venue, but that doesn't seem likely. Makes no sense -- this is NYC, for f***'s sake! Sigh. - -Lisa Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V16 #41 *********************************