From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V11 #51 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcertDB.php * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V8 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. * Also, PLEASE do not quote an entire digest when you reply to the * list. Edit out anything you are not referring to. mad-mission-digest Monday, February 12 2007 Volume 11 : Number 051 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Patty live on KCRW today [Aaron J Adler ] RE: MM: the "accessibility" of Heavenly Day ["mark bird" ] MM: Patty on NPR ["Eugene Unger" ] MM: Apple to fix the iTunes Quality issue... [Charl Kroeger ] Re: MM: Heavenly Day ["Lawrence Israelson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:54:44 -0500 From: Aaron J Adler Subject: MM: Patty live on KCRW today Patty will be in-studio on Morning Becomes Eclectic this morning at 11:15am PST. For those of us not in the L.A. area, it can be heard live from their website, kcrw.org, and usually within a day they have the live performances available in their archive. They used to have just about EVERYTHING available in their archive, but they must have cleaned house recently because the only other Patty appearance available is from June 17, 2004. It'll be interesting to see which songs she plays.... Cheers! Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 07:00:09 -0600 From: "mark bird" Subject: RE: MM: the "accessibility" of Heavenly Day oh, i dunno....i kind of like having Patty as a secret treasure that i am able to share with people who have not been turned on to her. it makes her even more special. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft Office Live ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:55:49 -0500 From: Charl Kroeger Subject: MM: Heavenly Day as first single... Hi Larry, I think I understand where you are coming from regarding "Heavenly Day". My opinion is that it is a beautiful track, but it is not the most commercially accessible track on the album (not saying that it is not good - it is GREAT), but I think it makes sense for a first single release to be a strong track, but not necessarily the strongest track. That way, when the second single gets released (i.e. The strongest track), the response is even bigger than the first time round and will spotlight the album for longer than it would have been if the biggest 'hurrah' was right up front. My vote for second single is "No Bad News" because it will have people rocking and singing along... I would be happy to see the life of CRT extended for a long time, so Patty can get lasting recognition (and the great $$$ that come with it) for ages to come! What do you guys all think? CK > Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:32:47 -0800 > From: "Lawrence Israelson" > Subject: MM: the "accessibility" of Heavenly Day > > First, please, PLEASE don't take this personally, Murph, just because > you raised the subject. I must say, however, that the idea that record > companies look for "accessible" songs to push as radio singles just > drives me up the wall. To me, "accessible" is industry-speak for safe, > non-threatening, just-like-everything-else-on-the-radio music. (And, no, > I'm no "insider," but a life-long music lover with a collection that > runs the gamut from Edith Piaf to Green Day.) > > I'm not saying that "Heavenly Day" is tripe, far from it. The melody is > lovely and Patty's vocals are terrific. I just know that last week, > while CRT was emanating nearly nonstop from the iPod dock on my desk, > when a co-worker stopped to ask "Who IS that?" it was never while > "Heavenly Day" was playing. Put another way, if I were commissioned to > put together a 90-minute career retrospective CD of Patty Griffin's > music, "Heavenly Day" would be hard-pressed to make the cut. > > If Patty were an established "hit-maker" with a built-in radio audience > for her newest release, that would be one thing. But, if the first > single from a new album by an artist with no proven radio track record > generates lukewarm response, will subsequent singles even be considered > for airplay? > > Honestly, I hope I am wrong, and that the good folks at ATO (and hell, > maybe it was Patty's decision) are smarter than me when it comes to > promoting new CDs. Perhaps "Heavenly Day" will do for Patty what (first > thing that popped into my head) "Just The Way You Are" did for Billy > Joel. It just pains me that somebody with Patty's peerless combination > of songwriting chops and singing ability is still waiting for > "mainstream success" after all these years. > > Cheers, > Larry I in LA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:00:23 -0500 From: "Eugene Unger" Subject: MM: Patty on NPR Was it actually available for download? You can only listen to the show. Maybe someone is savvy enough to save the audio stream and convert to mp3? *please* Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:27:04 -0800 (PST) From: Amy Leonard Subject: MM: Live Patty on NPR Hey All, I'm de-lurking to let you all know that a live Patty show was broadcast on NPR's World cafe yesterday and you can download it at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7241099 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:29:53 -0500 From: Charl Kroeger Subject: MM: Apple to fix the iTunes Quality issue... Hey all, Just wanted to post the iTunes reply to my message about the quality of the CRT downloads: > I'm sorry to hear that the item you purchased didn't meet the standard of > quality you have come to expect from the iTunes Store. Apple takes the quality > of the products offered on the iTunes Store very seriously and will > investigate the issue you reported. > > I have reversed the charge for your purchase. The credit should be posted > within 3-5 business days. > > Please wait a couple of weeks before purchasing the title again. The issue you > reported should be resolved by then. > > I hope that you continue to enjoy purchasing music from the iTunes Store. > > Sincerely, > > Clovis > iTunes Store Customer Support > http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/ww/ > Thanks to Apple for recognizing the issue and for being willing to fix the problem, which, as you can see, will hopefully be resolved soon... CK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:02:02 +0000 From: jmphlbat@comcast.net Subject: MM: NPG Cartoon of interest to concert goers Here is a link to a myspace which does cartoons about peoples concert experiences. http://www.myspace.com/concertedcomic ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:25:14 +0000 From: "Michael Tatlow" Subject: RE: MM: the "accessibility" of Heavenly Day Larry, I couldn't agree more, accessibility and music shouldn't even be in the same sentence. I don't listen to terrestrial radio anymore because of it's accessibility. As a fan I will buy anything Patty puts out. However, I do find it annoying that different vendors have different "bonus" tracks. Just put all the tracks on the CD. I would normally purchase this CD at local independent record shop. While it always fantastic to hear new Patty, I'm not sure how much of Children Running Through It would make it to my version of a career retrospective CD of Patty Griffin's Michael - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Lawrence Israelson" To: Subject: MM: the "accessibility" of Heavenly Day Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:32:47 -0800 First, please, PLEASE don't take this personally, Murph, just because you raised the subject. I must say, however, that the idea that record companies look for "accessible" songs to push as radio singles just drives me up the wall. To me, "accessible" is industry-speak for safe, non-threatening, just-like-everything-else-on-the-radio music. (And, no, I'm no "insider," but a life-long music lover with a collection that runs the gamut from Edith Piaf to Green Day.) I'm not saying that "Heavenly Day" is tripe, far from it. The melody is lovely and Patty's vocals are terrific. I just know that last week, while CRT was emanating nearly nonstop from the iPod dock on my desk, when a co-worker stopped to ask "Who IS that?" it was never while "Heavenly Day" was playing. Put another way, if I were commissioned to put together a 90-minute career retrospective CD of Patty Griffin's music, "Heavenly Day" would be hard-pressed to make the cut. If Patty were an established "hit-maker" with a built-in radio audience for her newest release, that would be one thing. But, if the first single from a new album by an artist with no proven radio track record generates lukewarm response, will subsequent singles even be considered for airplay? Honestly, I hope I am wrong, and that the good folks at ATO (and hell, maybe it was Patty's decision) are smarter than me when it comes to promoting new CDs. Perhaps "Heavenly Day" will do for Patty what (first thing that popped into my head) "Just The Way You Are" did for Billy Joel. It just pains me that somebody with Patty's peerless combination of songwriting chops and singing ability is still waiting for "mainstream success" after all these years. Cheers, Larry I in LA Looking for insurance? Compare and save 50% today. Shop here:

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