From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V11 #49 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcertDB.php * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V8 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. * Also, PLEASE do not quote an entire digest when you reply to the * list. Edit out anything you are not referring to. mad-mission-digest Sunday, February 11 2007 Volume 11 : Number 049 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Re: the order of it all. ["Lisa Zwick" ] MM: you know you're right... ["Shyam V. Yadav" ] Re: MM: Patty on Letterman ["rockerpgh _" ] RE: MM: Patty on Letterman ["Jim Murphy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:49:35 -0500 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: Re: MM: Re: the order of it all. Thank you to those who emailed with such helpful info (both on- and off-list). I had read from several sources that when you upload songs to the iPod, it converts them into Apple's own format (which would be the AAC you mention). Since it was part of the reason I never bought an iPod, I guess I should have done more research before accepting it as the ultimate truth. So thank you for clearing that up -- it's good to know that iPods do in fact play mp3s. That'll help in my future decision whether to continue going Pod-less. The rest of my rant still holds, though :) And Bruce made some extra points that I didn't mention for the sake of (slightly) shortening my rant. - -Lisa - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Greenberg" Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: RE: MM: Re: the order of it all. > If you're going to be arrogant (and a bit mean) toward someone, you > should at least show that you know what you're talking about. So, for > those who don't know... The ITunes Music Store downloads files in the > AAC format and uses Apple's own digital rights management (which means > you can't put the songs on any other player without going through a few > extra steps). ITunes and the IPOD though are capable of playing not only > AAC files but also mp3 files. My IPOD only has mp3s on it and even > though I ripped all of my CDs with the Microsoft Media Player, I am able > to listen to them with ITunes. > > There is a lot to be angry about these days. I know Patty isn't the > first artist to have less than acceptable sounding files on ITunes. I'm > not sure whose fault it is though. It may be Apple, but it could also be > the record company's fault. And this digital rights management has to go > away (Steve Jobs finally agrees!). If I download a song from ITunes I > should be able to play it on any software/mp3 player I wish to. > > Just a bit more info that may be helpful to some... If you download a > song from the ITunes Store, then burn it to a CD (which Apple will let > you do), you can then rip that CD into mp3s using most any > burning/ripping software (Microsoft Media Player for example); bypassing > the digital rights management. > > I hope I didn't waste everyone's time with this email. We all have > different amounts of knowledge about all of this stuff. I'm just trying > to be helpful. > > Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:33:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Shyam V. Yadav" Subject: MM: you know you're right... hi lisa. you know you're right. i should be upset about the inferior itunes sound for "children running through". so i went online and it took me FOREVER to find the place to complain via email to the apple.com itunes store. but i found it! i wrote the following to them: ######### i purchased the album "patty griffin - children running through" the other day. i also bought the cd from a cd store (different tracks on the store bought cd which is why i bought that copy also). what i noticed is that the itunes downloaded files for the album are far inferior quality wise. the sound is low and muted while the mp3s i made from the store bought cd sound fantastic. i want to find out why this is and if apple can re-issue the songs i purchased from them for this album with a better sound quality or offer me a refund/credit. sincerely, shyam yadav ######## they wrote back today (the same day as the complaint) the following: Dear Shyam, I understand your purchased album "Children Running Through" has poor sound quality as it is low and muted. I would like to go ahead and refund this purchase, however the order containing this item is currently processing. Your request is flagged for follow-up and I will contact you once I have more information about your order. Please note that processing can take up to five business days from the date of purchase. Thank you for your patience in this matter. Sincerely, Doug iTunes Store Customer Support so i'll let you all know if i got refunded. the place to complain and ask for a refund is at the bottom of the page this link directs you to. http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/store/buy/ - -shyam. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:59:10 -0500 From: "rockerpgh _" Subject: Re: MM: Patty on Letterman Because Heavenly Day is the most immediately accessible song on the CD. I think NBN will be next, followed by Getting Ready. This is only a preliminary assessment, as I am still getting used to CRT. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Israelson To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: MM: Patty on Letterman I completely spaced and forgot to watch Letterman Thursday night...but my wonderful wife, who doesn't even particularly like Patty or any sort of "downbeat" music, taped it for the fans in the family (myself and my younger daughter). Patty did look and sound wonderful, but with the possible exception of "One Big Love," I've never understood the songs that are chosen to be singles. Why not "I Don't Ever Give Up" or "No Bad News"? Cheers, Larry I in LA <-----Original Message-----> From: Eric Phelps [ericlphelps@yahoo.com] Sent: 2/10/2007 6:44:12 AM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Patty on Letterman I'm surprised not to have seen any comments about Thursday night's appearance on Letterman. I thought that Patty was in fine form, looked great, performed beautifully and that "Heavenly Day" is a really fine song. As it turned out I only listened to the new CD for the first time at abt. 9;00 (since it had just arrived in my mail) and then was seeing her on TV 3 hours later. BTW: Letterman has become kinda lame... what happened to this guy's acerbic wit and clever bits?? I mean, 20 minutes of animals, including a two-headed turtle - what's the world coming to?! Eric . Free Copier Price Quotes Compare copier prices & features from multiple dealers and save! >

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