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Edit out anything you are not referring to. mad-mission-digest Saturday, August 5 2006 Volume 10 : Number 090 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Re: NPC: top living songwriters/Dylan [Susan ] MM: DELETE ME PLEASE ["Dave" ] MM: DELETE ME PLEASE [Jess ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:46:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Subject: Re: MM: Re: NPC: top living songwriters/Dylan and what perfect english ! jmphlbat@comcast.net wrote: I have been reading Hugues's material on this and other websites for about 5 years, and while I do not agree with his choice and or opinions on music at times, he has one of the best music minds in the world. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Susan > Hughes > > Hi Im really amazed how fluent your english is BRAVO ! > I am american and I live in France - Marseilles in particular ! > There are not many people here that know who she is are there? > I have turned on a whole grgoup of HDC Bikers to her and they all LOVE her ! > I wonder why her touring is so limited..... boo hoo ... Ill have to go all the > way to Colorado ! lol > > Anyways about Dylan ... the word 'greatest'.... and being subjective .... > I am sure that none of this has to do with peoples real llikes and dislikes of > their favorite artists. > > I love Dylan and always will ... he does come to mind OF COURSE cuz he does it > all and he does write alot of words too !!! & gt; > But back to Patty .... she is a Hurricane Katrina to me in the world of blurry > clouds of mainstream musicians that lack originality and guts in their music. I > think we all know what we mean when we talk about her ... she is sooo real and > totally human and totally lovable. > > Feel free to contact me if u want ! > Susan > > hugues wrote: > > Good points to answer a weird question ("who's the greatest living > songwriter"?). That leads me to another question: what does "great" mean? > > > The notion of "greatness" leads many people to non-subjective > (unsubjective?) and non-personal (unpersonal?) opinions. The notion of > "greatness" leads many people to neglect their own sensibility, and to judge > with criteria that aren't theirs. The notion of "greatness" is artificial > and fake. You can only judge deep with your he art. So you can only be > subjective. > > > My bet is that in the number of people revering Dylan, you have a fair > amount of people who don't judge with their heart, but join the general > call. My thoughts are that with any artist widely recognized and popular, > you can multiplicate the number of sincere fans by a number of non-opiniated > people who just follow the general opinion. Not to speak of the fact that > recognition leads to more recognition, whereas lacks of recognition leads to > nothing. So you can fairly divide the logical equation in the opposite way, > since the wrong logic of what makes greatness is the number of people > *knowing* the artist. > > > and so on and so on, and all that in my second language (I'm French). Thank > you. :o) > > > Peace, > Hugues > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lawrence Israelson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:21 PM > Subject: MM: NPC: top living songwriters/Dylan > > > > > To those holding the position that artistic beauty is subjective ("eye > > of the beholder" and all that), I must say that I generally agree. Even > > Dylan, great and revered as he is, has plenty of detractors. In another > > relatively recent "list," Rolling Stone magazine announced its choices > > for the 500 best songs of all time, and "Like A Rolling Stone" came out > > on top. Afterwards, some folks ridiculed the idea because the song > > doesn't even have a bridge. > > > > Although the assertion can never be definitively "proven," I would like > > to offer a couple of observations that support the notion that Bob Dylan > > *may* be the world's greatest living songwriter: > > > > 1) People have paid attention to his music for more than 40 years > > despite the fact that he can't really sing; and > > > > 2) The number of performers who have recorded their own versions of > > Dylan songs is astonishing. > > > > Peace, > > Larry I in LA > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2"/min or less. Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:30:40 -0700 From: "King of the Jungle" Subject: RE: MM: Jessica Simpson Covers Patty On the subject of great covers, I feel that Hendrix's version of Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower" beaks away nicely from the "variations of a theme" category into which other covers usually fall. Jeff in SF - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mercer (Relay Port Agency) Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:18 AM To: Olivia Olson; Lawrence Israelson; mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: Re: MM: Jessica Simpson Covers Patty I tried to introduce the subject of "Covers" some time ago. Originals nearly always the best in my opinion (with obvious exceptions...) Patty "Stolen Car" ? Seriously, all these covers that make the charts without the young pretenders ever giving verbal credit to the original. Maybe it all started with LuLu (Isley Brothers).......SHOUT. Moody Blues - (Bessie Banks) "Go now" Over to you! Steve M - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivia Olson" To: "Lawrence Israelson" ; Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: MM: Jessica Simpson Covers Patty > Yes, but a true Patty fan would know that no one can do a better version > than the original. I never understand why anyone would want to cover her > songs- they're never as good. I guess it's flattering to PG and all, but > still... If I'm listening to Jessica sing the song, I'm thinking I would > rather be listening to Patty sing it. > Olivia > Lawrence Israelson wrote: > Actually, the fact that Jessica Simpson is familiar with at least some > of Patty's music raises my opinion of Jessica, if ever so slightly. > Plus, Patty will benefit financially. Let's just hope Jessica's version > isn't a *complete* desecration of the song. > > Peace, > Larry I in LA > > <-----Original Message-----> > > From: pam6221971@comcast.net > Sent: 8/3/2006 9:15:12 PM > To: kaycee973@aol.com;beemergirl1@sbcglobal.net;mad-mission@smoe.org > Subject: Re: MM: Another Patty Cover? > > I think I'm going to be sick to my stomach. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: kaycee973@aol.com > >> SAY IT AINT SO!! >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: beemergirl1@sbcglobal.net >> To: mad-mission@smoe.org >> Sent: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:27 PM >> Subject: MM: Another Patty Cover? >> >> >> De-lurking momentarily to report some potential news. I heard an >> unconfirmed, not even necessarily valid, rumor this morning. I heard > that >> Jessica Simpson was going to be doing a cover of a song called "Let > Him Fly" >> on her new album. Now, the only song by that name that I know is, of >> course, by Patty, but I don't know for sure that this is the same song > she >> is covering. And, I'm not sure what I think. Though, if true, it would > be >> some more big exposure for this song since the Dixie Chicks. > Personally, >> I'm not a big fan of the Dixie Chicks, but I do think it was good that > they >> did the cover. Anyway, if anyone has heard anything to confirm/deny, > well, >> I just found it curious when I heard about it. >> >> >> >> -Sandi >> > ________________________________________________________________________ >> Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email > and IM. >> All on demand. Always Free. > . > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com > Unlimited Email Storage  POP3  Calendar  SMS  Translator  Much More! > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:04:44 +0100 From: "Steve Mercer \(Relay Port Agency\)" Subject: Re: VPOP3-SPAM: RE: MM: Jessica Simpson Covers Patty Definately Brilliant e.g. Thats why you are "King of the jingle"? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "King of the Jungle" To: Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: VPOP3-SPAM: RE: MM: Jessica Simpson Covers Patty > On the subject of great covers, I feel that Hendrix's version of Dylan's > "All Along the Watchtower" beaks away nicely from the "variations of a > theme" category into which other covers usually fall. > > Jeff in SF > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Steve Mercer (Relay Port Agency) > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:18 AM > To: Olivia Olson; Lawrence Israelson; mad-mission@smoe.org > Subject: Re: MM: Jessica Simpson Covers Patty > > I tried to introduce the subject of "Covers" > some time ago. > Originals nearly always the best in my opinion (with > obvious exceptions...) > Patty "Stolen Car" ? > Seriously, all these covers that make the charts > without the young pretenders ever giving verbal credit > to the original. Maybe it all started with LuLu (Isley > Brothers).......SHOUT. > Moody Blues - (Bessie Banks) "Go now" > Over to you! > Steve M > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Olivia Olson" > To: "Lawrence Israelson" ; > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:41 AM > Subject: Re: MM: Jessica Simpson Covers Patty > > >> Yes, but a true Patty fan would know that no one can do a better version >> than the original. I never understand why anyone would want to cover her >> songs- they're never as good. I guess it's flattering to PG and all, but >> still... If I'm listening to Jessica sing the song, I'm thinking I would >> rather be listening to Patty sing it. >> Olivia >> Lawrence Israelson wrote: >> Actually, the fact that Jessica Simpson is familiar with at least some >> of Patty's music raises my opinion of Jessica, if ever so slightly. >> Plus, Patty will benefit financially. Let's just hope Jessica's version >> isn't a *complete* desecration of the song. >> >> Peace, >> Larry I in LA >> >> <-----Original Message-----> >> >> From: pam6221971@comcast.net >> Sent: 8/3/2006 9:15:12 PM >> To: kaycee973@aol.com;beemergirl1@sbcglobal.net;mad-mission@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: MM: Another Patty Cover? >> >> I think I'm going to be sick to my stomach. >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: kaycee973@aol.com >> >>> SAY IT AINT SO!! >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: beemergirl1@sbcglobal.net >>> To: mad-mission@smoe.org >>> Sent: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:27 PM >>> Subject: MM: Another Patty Cover? >>> >>> >>> De-lurking momentarily to report some potential news. I heard an >>> unconfirmed, not even necessarily valid, rumor this morning. I heard >> that >>> Jessica Simpson was going to be doing a cover of a song called "Let >> Him Fly" >>> on her new album. Now, the only song by that name that I know is, of >>> course, by Patty, but I don't know for sure that this is the same song >> she >>> is covering. And, I'm not sure what I think. Though, if true, it would >> be >>> some more big exposure for this song since the Dixie Chicks. >> Personally, >>> I'm not a big fan of the Dixie Chicks, but I do think it was good that >> they >>> did the cover. Anyway, if anyone has heard anything to confirm/deny, >> well, >>> I just found it curious when I heard about it. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Sandi >>> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email >> and IM. >>> All on demand. Always Free. >> . >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________ >> Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com >> Unlimited Email Storage  POP3  Calendar  SMS  Translator  Much More! >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:14:06 +0200 From: "hugues" Subject: Re: MM: Re: NPC: top living songwriters/Dylan Blush. I won't dare to post anything now! :O) ----- Original Message ----- From: jmphlbat@comcast.net To: Susan ; hugues ; mad-mission@smoe.org Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: MM: Re: NPC: top living songwriters/Dylan I have been reading Hugues's material on this and other websites for about 5 years, and while I do not agree with his choice and or opinions on music at times, he has one of the best music minds in the world. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:22:06 -0400 From: "Betty King" Subject: MM: DELETE ME PLEASE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:25:18 -0400 From: "Dave" Subject: MM: DELETE ME PLEASE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:41:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess Subject: MM: DELETE ME PLEASE - --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V10 #90 *********************************