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Edit out anything you are not referring to. mad-mission-digest Friday, September 9 2005 Volume 09 : Number 169 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NPG: MM: song request issue ["Paul Russell" ] MM: RE: mad-mission-digest V9 #168 ["Hammer, Mark" ] Fw: MM: Let me off! [NPC] ["Sarah Fennell" ] MM: Re: song request issue ["Sarah Fennell" ] MM: Fw: Sense of Entitlement [Lance Macdonald ] MM: Hey List Mon . . . ["Charles Ott" ] Re: MM: RE: NPC Jennifer Caputo [Ronni Heggen ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:50:01 -0400 From: "Paul Russell" Subject: Re: NPG: MM: song request issue Hugues, C'est une acclamation amiricaine aux jeux du football. Peace love and vegetable rights, Paul ************************************* * * You can stop masterbating vigorously, * by the way. * * -- Paul Russell (me!) * Long story, you don't want to know * ************************************* - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "hugues" To: Subject: Re: NPG: MM: song request issue Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:51:53 +0200 Parlez-moi du choc des cultures. Hugues > > > Be! Aggressive! B-E Aggressive! > > B-E > A-G-G > R-I-S-S-I-V-E > > Be! Aggressive! B-E Aggressive! > > Yay! > > > Keep....hand....offf.......mouse. > > *grunt* > > must...not...click...."send"....button.... > > GAH! > > NOOOOOO!!! > > > Peace love and vegetable rights. > > Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 14:04:52 -0500 From: "Hammer, Mark" Subject: MM: RE: mad-mission-digest V9 #168 I saw Patty at Elsie's, a great Mexican restaurant in Austin (which was better before it moved). She was sitting with a couple of other friends. I was with my wife and daughters. I whispered to my kids that that was Patty Griffin over at the other table. And my 5-year old started singing Patty songs. I tried to get her to go over and sign Patty for Patty but she wouldn't do it. We didn't even say hi, we love your music, my daughters sing it at night or anything. And to this day I regret interrupting Patty's breakfast. Then one night I went to see Pete Yorn at Stubb's, and I was standing at the urinal (beer) and who should come in but Pete Yorn. Forgetting where I was or what I was doing, I turned around to see him and showed Pete a bit more of me than I might have liked. I'm not as shy as my daughter. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:21:59 +0100 From: "Steve Mercer \(MDM\)" Subject: Re: MM: song request issue Had the pleasure/privelage of seeing Patty earlier this year in Sheffield(England). A few requests were made, but Patty declined politely and continued with the songs she had in mind to sing. My 18 year old son turned to me and said "why do people expect special treatment....." So, I think James Burton has it right. We (my family and I) had waited years for Patty to tour in the UK. Just to see and hear her perform those songs live on stage was a real treat. Then to meet Patty after the show was brilliant. Looking forward to the next UK tour. Ah yes, song request issue.....A few years ago we went to see Neal Casal playing a solo acoustic set. After a couple of hours he looked to the audience for song suggestions, I made 3 and he sang all 3 !!! I think they were "Bird in hand" "Best to believe" and "On the mend" So, maybe we should wait to see if the artist asks if anyone wants to hear anything special? PEACE, LOVE AND STUFF LIKE THAT! Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: "hugues" To: "Paul Russell" ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:39 AM Subject: Re: MM: song request issue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Russell" > > >> and Hughes >> (minus his last post of which I didn't really understand)? > > I explain in a few words: your answer was way too agressive and we can't > discuss that way. When people start getting agressive, I find them stupid. > Waste of time. > > H > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/91 - Release Date: 06/09/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:14:40 -0400 From: Jonathan Cass Subject: MM: Sense of Entitlement After reading the slew of emails over the past couple days, what I don't get is the incredible sense of entitlement that so many fans have for their favorite artists. Maybe Patty doesn't like being in the spotlight. Maybe she doesn't want legions of adoring fans viewing her as a goddess. Maybe she doesn't want to be a "star" and just wants to be Patty. Maybe the thought of a random stranger coming up and asking for a hug seems as creepy to her as it would to the rest of us. Maybe she just enjoys making and playing music. Why does she owe you anything else? Because you buy her CDs and go to her concerts? So what? You buy a CD or go to a concert and what you get in return in music that touches your soul. That is all you deserve. Patty (and any other artist or celebrity) owes you nothing more. Do you deserve a hug from your doctor because he cured that rash? Do you deserve an autograph from your waitress because she gave you good service and the best damn steak you've had in awhile? We don't expect these things from other people doing their job, why expect it from celebrities. Instead of complaining that an artist isn't giving hugs, autographs or taking requests why not enjoy what they are there for - to play music. If you are lucky enough to get a hug, autograph or your request played - great, but don't take it personal if those things don't happen. I can understand the emotion of having a connection to music and therefore you feel a connection to the artist that created it. But let's be honest here, you don't know that artist and you are not friends. If the artist isn't thrilled about hanging out with you they are not being stuckup or snobby, they just don't wish to pretend to be friends with every stranger they meet. Have any of you people complaining listened to the lyrics of "One More Girl"??? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 17:59:23 +0100 From: "Sarah Fennell" Subject: Fw: MM: Let me off! [NPC] *weird Rikki-Lake-arm-movement* Go Dave, Go Dave, Go Dave */weird arm movement* > There are clear instructions on how to get off these lists when you sign > up. > Mass mailing the entire list, 99.999999999% of which have absolutely no > power to take you off is NOT THE WAY! LOL > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 17:58:23 +0100 From: "Sarah Fennell" Subject: MM: Re: song request issue Imagine somebody you don't know freaks out at the very sight of you and wants to touch you. Hugging is probably not going to be your first impulse, particularly if you are a shy woman who has demonstrated a surprise at having fans at all. This isn't a woman who gets that kind of reaction very often. I once met the Dixie Chicks, there were several people there and I got trapped behind the crowd. It's a scary thing to happen. I have ment Patty twice; the first time she seemed really shocked to be recognised as it was before the concert and quite shy. The second time we did it through the proper channels and she was relaxed, talkative and very funny. Sarah - ----- Original Message ----- From: "emma rodrigues" To: Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: MM: song request issue > i went to one of patty's concerts and somehow managed to get backstage. i > tracked her down and when she turned around to look at me, i totally > started freaking out and shaking. when she walked up to me, the only thing > i could think to say was "i love you patty. can i have a hug?" she looked > at me like i was crazy and hesitantly shook my hand before walking away. i > was sooooooo overwhelmingly embarrassed. it still makes me blush. but the > more i think about it i wonder, why didnt she just give me a hug. i was a > fan who was obviously nervous and totally excited to meet her. she could > of at least smiled at me and said i was funny or something... i dunno. i > still love patty and i think shes awesome, but possibly a little snobby??? > just food for thought........... > - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/93 - Release Date: 08/09/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:56:11 -0400 From: Lance Macdonald Subject: MM: Fw: Sense of Entitlement Amen Brother oh, and sure Kimmy, rub it in. But we will always have Carnegie Hall. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Cass" To: Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: MM: Sense of Entitlement > > After reading the slew of emails over the past couple days, what I don't > get > is the incredible sense of entitlement that so many fans have for their > favorite artists. > Maybe Patty doesn't like being in the spotlight. Maybe she doesn't want > legions of adoring fans viewing her as a goddess. Maybe she doesn't want > to > be a "star" and just wants to be Patty. Maybe the thought of a random > stranger coming up and asking for a hug seems as creepy to her as it would > to the rest of us. Maybe she just enjoys making and playing music. > Why does she owe you anything else? Because you buy her CDs and go to her > concerts? So what? You buy a CD or go to a concert and what you get in > return in music that touches your soul. That is all you deserve. Patty > (and > any other artist or celebrity) owes you nothing more. Do you deserve a hug > from your doctor because he cured that rash? Do you deserve an autograph > from your waitress because she gave you good service and the best damn > steak > you've had in awhile? We don't expect these things from other people doing > their job, why expect it from celebrities. > Instead of complaining that an artist isn't giving hugs, autographs or > taking requests why not enjoy what they are there for - to play music. If > you are lucky enough to get a hug, autograph or your request played - > great, > but don't take it personal if those things don't happen. > I can understand the emotion of having a connection to music and therefore > you feel a connection to the artist that created it. But let's be honest > here, you don't know that artist and you are not friends. If the artist > isn't thrilled about hanging out with you they are not being stuckup or > snobby, they just don't wish to pretend to be friends with every stranger > they meet. > Have any of you people complaining listened to the lyrics of "One More > Girl"??? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:41:03 -0700 From: "emma rodrigues" Subject: RE: MM: Sense of Entitlement just to clarify... i never said that i expected patty to give me anything. i understand how the whole "hug" thing could be viewed as creepy. i was embarrassed for myself, i never blamed patty for anything and i still dont. if anything i blame myself for looking like an idiot in front of one of my favorite artists. i was only pondering the fact that patty does not go out of her way to accomodate her fans, which actually is pretty cool if you think about it. anyways, I WAS NOT DISSING PATTY! just wanted to clear that up. thanx..... Emma >From: Jonathan Cass >To: mad-mission@smoe.org >Subject: MM: Sense of Entitlement >Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:14:40 -0400 > > >After reading the slew of emails over the past couple days, what I don't >get >is the incredible sense of entitlement that so many fans have for their >favorite artists. > Maybe Patty doesn't like being in the spotlight. Maybe she doesn't want >legions of adoring fans viewing her as a goddess. Maybe she doesn't want to >be a "star" and just wants to be Patty. Maybe the thought of a random >stranger coming up and asking for a hug seems as creepy to her as it would >to the rest of us. Maybe she just enjoys making and playing music. > Why does she owe you anything else? Because you buy her CDs and go to her >concerts? So what? You buy a CD or go to a concert and what you get in >return in music that touches your soul. That is all you deserve. Patty (and >any other artist or celebrity) owes you nothing more. Do you deserve a hug >from your doctor because he cured that rash? Do you deserve an autograph >from your waitress because she gave you good service and the best damn >steak >you've had in awhile? We don't expect these things from other people doing >their job, why expect it from celebrities. > Instead of complaining that an artist isn't giving hugs, autographs or >taking requests why not enjoy what they are there for - to play music. If >you are lucky enough to get a hug, autograph or your request played - >great, >but don't take it personal if those things don't happen. > I can understand the emotion of having a connection to music and >therefore >you feel a connection to the artist that created it. But let's be honest >here, you don't know that artist and you are not friends. If the artist >isn't thrilled about hanging out with you they are not being stuckup or >snobby, they just don't wish to pretend to be friends with every stranger >they meet. > Have any of you people complaining listened to the lyrics of "One More >Girl"??? _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:43:33 -0700 From: "emma rodrigues" Subject: MM: PS.... what album is "one more girl" on? ive never heard it.... _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:47:19 +0000 From: "Charles Ott" Subject: MM: Hey List Mon . . . Please keep me on the MM list!!! (Look at me! Look at me!) And want to add . . . I love Patty just the way she is. I want an artist to be true and honest. That's all I expect. Take Care, Julie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:00:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ronni Heggen Subject: Re: MM: RE: NPC Jennifer Caputo I am very happy to hear that it's not you because I was not at all fond of the movie. I think I've actually asked that question before, now that I've seen your answer. Sorry, I won't bother you about it again. Now I know!!! Thank you. Jennifer Lynn Caputo wrote: I was only 15 in '95 so it's definitely not me :-) I do get emailed or called about this at least once a day though! (She's also currently starring in a commercial for Silk Milk). - - Jen http://www.pattygriffin.net *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ P.S. Please visit Caputo's Kits - Everything you need to custom make your own one-of-a-kind books! http://www.jencaputo.com On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Jason Burton wrote: > According to the Internet Movie Database (www.imdb.com) Jen Caputo is a > stunt woman who has been working steadily since at least 1995. Of course I > have no idea if this is our Jen Caputo or not? > > Jason > Jason@Creekdipping.com > webmaster: > www.singlecollector.com - Discographies > www.creekdipping.com - Victoria Williams & Mark Olson and the Creekdippers > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of Ronni Heggen > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:52 PM > To: mad mission > Subject: MM: NPC Jennifer Caputo > > > I just saw the movie Monster-In-Law and Jennifer Caputo ( I hope I have the > name right) was in the credits and I can't recall what for (because I didn't > know what it was) and I'm just wondering if it's our very own Jen Caputo???? > > > --------------------------------- > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. - --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V9 #169 *********************************