From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V7 #270 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcertDB.php * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V7 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. * Also, PLEASE do not quote an entire digest when you reply to the * list. Edit out anything you are not referring to. mad-mission-digest Friday, October 24 2003 Volume 07 : Number 270 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Re: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD [Guajillo@aol.com] Re: MM: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD [Danalee7@comcast.net] Re: MM: Re: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD [Mel Vyvyan ] MM: Re: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD [Rongrittz@aol.com] MM: What about the M&M's? [Sharon Bolton ] MM: RE: Re: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD ["Jim Murphy" ] MM: patty the pre show [sharon goldberg ] Re: MM: patty the pre show ["Kim S" ] Re: MM: What about the M&M's? [ShmephSasso@aol.com] MM: another Patty convert! [Danalee7@comcast.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:34:42 EDT From: Guajillo@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD Coming out of lurk mode in disbelief. I can't fathom why people are complaining about the Dixie Chicks using Patty's songs as theme songs for their tours. Some of you seem to think this is tantamount to stealing, when in fact it's the highest honor they could pay her! Jesus! If they *didn't* use her songs for the tour title you'd probably be complaining about that! The fact that they have sung three of her songs on their multi-platinum albums means that Patty has made *a lot* of money in royalties from the Dixie Chicks. Obviously they're deeply into supporting her. I bet that Patty is *thrilled* to have the Chicks use her songs and use them as tour themes. You should be thankful they're doing this as it no doubt gives Patty a lot of extra options -- which financial success brings -- that she would not otherwise have. This clout gives her more freedom to do what she wants artistically and also boosts her public profile, which in the end means more people know who she is. The Chicks probably receive a gazillion tapes a month from hopeful songwriters for their records, but the fact is that of the 30 or so songs on their last three albums they've included 3 Patty Griffin songs. That's amazing. And all those millions of people who have bought the Chicks records can presumably read the song credits to see that Patty is the writer of several of their songs. What would satisfy you? If the Dixie Chicks called their tour "The Top of the World-A-Song-Written-By-Patty-Griffin Tour"? I don't follow the Chicks closely but I've seen them on TV several times and they've mentioned Patty. As for the comment about "Landslide" -- the Chicks have sung the song with Stevie Nicks with them at televised concerts; besides, is there anyone in the world who doesn't know that song is a Stevie Nicks' song? Sorry about this rant, I just can't believe that some people are seriously put out by what is actually an amazingly generous -- and ongoing -- salute to and support of Patty. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:37:31 +0000 From: Danalee7@comcast.net Subject: Re: MM: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD > The fact that they can move the music to people who would not otherwise ever > hear of "a Patty Griffin" is groovy with me. They just might remember her name > from the album notes and but her next time they see her CD in their lcoal > record store. Actually this is how way back in the dark ages of my long ago youth that I discovered Joni Mitchell- Must have been a song of hers Tom Rush sang - Circle Game- that made me check her out, for many years long passion for her music. I also know at least 1 person on this list who discovered Patty from those Chicks the same way. He had to check this Patty Griffin out and now is addicted. :) He might pipe up on this thread. Dana ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mel Vyvyan Subject: Re: MM: Re: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD very well-thought. i agree. now if the chicks totally botched up patty's songs, that would be another story. but they cover her beautifully and tastefully. i heard people cover some of my favorite artists before with no success. i think patty is lucky that she has natalie singing her songs as opposed to courtney love *coughgolddustwomancough* mel - --- Guajillo@aol.com wrote: > Coming out of lurk mode in disbelief. I can't fathom > why people are > complaining about the Dixie Chicks using Patty's > songs as theme songs for their tours. > Some of you seem to think this is tantamount to > stealing, when in fact it's > the highest honor they could pay her! Jesus! If they > *didn't* use her songs for > the tour title you'd probably be complaining about > that! The fact that they > have sung three of her songs on their multi-platinum > albums means that Patty has > made *a lot* of money in royalties from the Dixie > Chicks. Obviously they're > deeply into supporting her. I bet that Patty is > *thrilled* to have the Chicks > use her songs and use them as tour themes. You > should be thankful they're doing > this as it no doubt gives Patty a lot of extra > options -- which financial > success brings -- that she would not otherwise have. > This clout gives her more > freedom to do what she wants artistically and also > boosts her public profile, > which in the end means more people know who she is. > The Chicks probably receive > a gazillion tapes a month from hopeful songwriters > for their records, but the > fact is that of the 30 or so songs on their last > three albums they've included > 3 Patty Griffin songs. That's amazing. And all those > millions of people who > have bought the Chicks records can presumably read > the song credits to see that > Patty is the writer of several of their songs. What > would satisfy you? If the > Dixie Chicks called their tour "The Top of the > World-A-Song-Written-By-Patty-Griffin Tour"? I don't > follow the Chicks closely but I've seen them on TV > several times and they've mentioned Patty. As for > the comment about "Landslide" -- > the Chicks have sung the song with Stevie Nicks with > them at televised > concerts; besides, is there anyone in the world who > doesn't know that song is a > Stevie Nicks' song? > > Sorry about this rant, I just can't believe that > some people are seriously > put out by what is actually an amazingly generous -- > and ongoing -- salute to > and support of Patty. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:03:33 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD >> But focusing your whole career around other ppl's talent is a whole different story. << Do I take that to mean that you think that the Dixie Chicks have not focused their career around their OWN talent? Wow. That isn't even a matter of opinion. That's just WRONG. And also, anyone who thinks that the Chicks don't FREQUENTLY give Patty props for her incredible songs simply hasn't been listening. RG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:32:33 -0400 From: Sharon Bolton Subject: MM: What about the M&M's? Forget the Chicky soap opera... Did anyone bring out the M&M's to the Carnegie concert? Shar ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:41:47 -0400 From: "Jim Murphy" Subject: MM: RE: Re: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD The Chicks have taken the songs of Patty and others and have added their flavor to them. As Patty's songs have help their carrer it has also help Patty's. Last night Patty sang "Top of the World" at her show at Carnegie Hall, and no one, no one will ever sing that song better than she did last night, at the end of it, 700 people were on their feet, and we all knew who wrote the song. Murph - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Rongrittz@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:04 PM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Re: Patty-flavored Chicks DVD >> But focusing your whole career around other ppl's talent is a whole different story. << Do I take that to mean that you think that the Dixie Chicks have not focused their career around their OWN talent? Wow. That isn't even a matter of opinion. That's just WRONG. And also, anyone who thinks that the Chicks don't FREQUENTLY give Patty props for her incredible songs simply hasn't been listening. RG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:46:52 -0400 From: "Jim Murphy" Subject: MM: RE: What about the M&M's? 7 Bags of M&M's made their way to the Carnegie stage last night. Patty made mention of the internet fan site and why we do it. Kathi Whitley, Patty's manager said today that everyone was enjoying them all night. Murph - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Sharon Bolton Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:33 PM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: What about the M&M's? Forget the Chicky soap opera... Did anyone bring out the M&M's to the Carnegie concert? Shar ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:11:39 -0400 From: sharon goldberg Subject: MM: patty the pre show hey all seeing it was a school night and a sold out school night... I went to buddy and julie miller at carnegie hall and didnt stay for patty's set..shame on me this time...But no one has reported on Patty's appearance at B&J so i will.. julie started talking about her brother and 9-11 related events and how her brother is 9 years younger than her and was in a life threatening debilitating motorcycle accident at age 15 in TX.. he was in a coma for 83 days and survived though with a horrible limp that Julie called humbling. his hands were wrought with pain and distorted and he had to try to open his fingers to use them.. Sonny was 36 list past 9-12 but didnt get the horse he wanted for his birthday.. julie talked about his desire to be a cowboy and how tender hearted he was..She explained sonny got hit by lightening on 9-11 in the same spot where the motorcycle accident occured all those years ago.. Julie went on to read from Psalms a quote that described Sonny and the dark clouds that came in like a storm with the lightening that took him up to g-d.. julie was talking and talking and reading and talking about her brother a third mike was added.. and she introduced Patty.. I thought Emmy Lou was her guest.. but Patty came out wet eyed and sang harmony on I still Cry.. She kept looking up at the ceiling and her voice cracked.. She was filled with tears as julie sang on.. it was one of hardest things to hear after the Sonny story and to see Patty so effected and still singing was amazing.. Julie was at peace with the death of her brother though clearly its had an impact on her.. She read the Psalms piece at his memorial service.. Julie hadnt performed live since January last year and Sonny was lost in september (last month) julie held it together well.. Patty held her for a long time after the song and was off...the stage.. Emmy will have the artist back with her on saturday.. i ll be there again.. sharon G from the early show.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:24:02 -0400 From: "Kim S" Subject: Re: MM: patty the pre show Sharon... Thanks so much for sharing that...I had tears in my eyes. ...Kim It doesn't interest me what you do for a living. I want to know what you ache for, and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart's longing. --Oriah Mountain Dreamer - ----Original Message Follows---- From: sharon goldberg Reply-To: sharon goldberg To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: patty the pre show Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:11:39 -0400 hey all seeing it was a school night and a sold out school night... I went to buddy and julie miller at carnegie hall and didnt stay for patty's set..shame on me this time...But no one has reported on Patty's appearance at B&J so i will.. julie started talking about her brother and 9-11 related events and how her brother is 9 years younger than her and was in a life threatening debilitating motorcycle accident at age 15 in TX.. he was in a coma for 83 days and survived though with a horrible limp that Julie called humbling. his hands were wrought with pain and distorted and he had to try to open his fingers to use them.. Sonny was 36 list past 9-12 but didnt get the horse he wanted for his birthday.. julie talked about his desire to be a cowboy and how tender hearted he was..She explained sonny got hit by lightening on 9-11 in the same spot where the motorcycle accident occured all those years ago.. Julie went on to read from Psalms a quote that described Sonny and the dark clouds that came in like a storm with the lightening that took him up to g-d.. julie was talking and talking and reading and talking about her brother a third mike was added.. and she introduced Patty.. I thought Emmy Lou was her guest.. but Patty came out wet eyed and sang harmony on I still Cry.. She kept looking up at the ceiling and her voice cracked.. She was filled with tears as julie sang on.. it was one of hardest things to hear after the Sonny story and to see Patty so effected and still singing was amazing.. Julie was at peace with the death of her brother though clearly its had an impact on her.. She read the Psalms piece at his memorial service.. Julie hadnt performed live since January last year and Sonny was lost in september (last month) julie held it together well.. Patty held her for a long time after the song and was off...the stage.. Emmy will have the artist back with her on saturday.. i ll be there again.. sharon G from the early show.. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month.* *Depending on the local service providers in your area. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:24:49 EDT From: ShmephSasso@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: What about the M&M's? I did, with a card - I hope she read it!! Steph ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:29:13 +0000 From: Danalee7@comcast.net Subject: MM: another Patty convert! Here is a note from someone on the Jackson Browne list that I sent a couple of concerts to last year and did a little ranting and raving about Patty to. She gets it now after seeing Patty live. Word of mouth goes a long way even tho I don't think Patty gets anywhere near the promotion she should. Dana "Hey there, Dana........I finally got to see Patty last night at Carnegie Hall! She was great! The hall was very small......about the size of a small movie theatre........you know, the ones that used to be just one screen that they chopped up into 2 or 3? She did a lot of the songs from 1000 Kisses, including Mil Besos, Chief, Rain, Long ride home, Making Pies, Stolen Car, Tomorrow Night ( and I just love that whole CD!) .......Mad Mission, Mary, Flaming Red, Truth #2, Icicles falling and a new one called Kites......I know there were more than that, too...........she was fantastic. Her little size and big voice just blow me away! She wore a brown or grey skirt & top with a light turquoise blue cami or lining with a Handkerchief hemline and Mary Janes with heels....and pink spotlights.....She told little stories between songs, and EmmyLou came out and did a couple of songs with her, too. So did Buddy & Julie Miller, (but I didn't know who they were until Patty introduced them.) I went with my sister, who bought the tickets thinking it was Patty Larkin....(she hadn't yet heard Patty Griffin!!) and a friend of hers. They both loved her!! I knew they would!! Anyway, now that I've seen her live, I really know what you were raving about!! And thanks again. If you hadn't gone on and on about her, I' d never have known!! " ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V7 #270 *********************************