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Edit out anything you are not referring to. mad-mission-digest Friday, October 3 2003 Volume 07 : Number 246 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Tonight! [Maureen Scott ] MM: strawberry weed closed ["William Dierolf" ] Fwd: MM: Concert News from Albany [Sharon Bolton ] RE: MM: Tonight! [Sharon Bolton ] MM: Dana is right! ["Jerry Skomer" ] MM: ACL weed offer closed for digesters too [danalee7@comcast.net] MM: DVD [lindee37@webtv.net (Lindee)] MM: NPC Dana's weekend [TimSharp63@aol.com] Re: MM: DVD [JMPHLBAT@comcast.net] Re: MM: DVD [Sharon Bolton ] MM: [Fwd: Guidelines for CD trades and B&Ps] [MH Subject: MM: Tonight! I don't know how I'm going to get through the day. I am so excited about the show at the Wang tonight that I've been blabbing about it all morning. Even the dog was happy that I was leaving for work. It's been a while since I've seen Patty. Even though I saw Dar in July, I'm looking forward to seeing her again. Do any of you know what songs Dar played? Maureen (impatiently waiting) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:03:27 -0400 From: "William Dierolf" Subject: MM: strawberry weed closed Wow that was fast.Got my discs yesterday and most of mine are going out today. Look for the following to reseed soon. Matt, Mollie, Dawn, Charlotte, Bernie, Jacqueline,Steve, Angi, Bonnie, Maureen, and Joe. Peace Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:22:54 -0400 From: Sharon Bolton Subject: Fwd: MM: Concert News from Albany Begin forwarded message: > From: Sharon Bolton > Date: Fri Oct 3, 2003 7:41:44 AM America/New_York > To: Danalee7@comcast.net > Subject: Re: MM: Concert News from Albany > > How cool! There's a birthday that will be hard to top! Erin will be > happy to read your story - maybe she'll write a little when she gets > home from school and we can get it straight from the horses mouth how > it felt. She was so cute! Everyone around her was patting her on the > back and congradulating her. All she could say was "I can't stop > shaking". It was a bit out of character for her. She's really on the > shy side but man, does she love Patty and I think she loved the whole > idea of our list and giving her something and she was caught up in the > moment! > > Later! > > On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 12:56 AM, Danalee7@comcast.net wrote: > >> "I suppose it was our duty to bring along a big bag a M&M's (I think >> it >> was Dana who started this?) with a big Flamin' Red Bow on top and >> placed it on the stage. And of course, by the end of the night (they >> played and gabbed for nearly 3 hours!) the bag was still sitting there >> and by this time my 2 daughters had stolen our 2 front row seats, >> sending us back a few rows, and the 4 girls get up and walk arm-in-arm >> to the edge of the stage for a bow and I couldn't believe my eyes as >> my >> daughter, Erin, jumps up on stage with the bag of M&Ms and hands them >> to Patty! " >> >> Sharon- this is the coolest story- go girl! I have a grin from ear >> to ear with this one- actually we did this back a few years ago and >> it was other listers that began it, but I have done it twice now. The >> other time was at Slims in SF on my birthday- great birthday party >> too at a great Patty headliner concert- during her tour with the >> Chicks - I put them out on the stage before the concert and she came >> out, noticed them and was smiling to herself. She knows it means us- >> her list is there supporting her. And, I just have to tell this part- >> here is the rest of that story- Don asked someone in her band if she >> would talk to someone who was having their birthday, and I got to go >> downstairs and chat for a few minutes with her! She even gave me her >> gorgeous bouquet of flowers, said they would die on the hot bus. I >> kept them for 2 weeks. Patty Griffin gave me her flowers on my >> birthday! OK, here is the rest of that Slims story- that is the day I >> met Don Henn, he drove all the way ! >> from Pittsburgh, PA out to see 1 Patty concert and drove home >> again- met me at my house and drove in with us. He was pretty cool. >> He is now one of my concert buddies, been to 5 Patty concerts thus >> far with him. Dana in Berkeley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:24:35 -0400 From: Sharon Bolton Subject: RE: MM: Tonight! Hey Maureen! In Albany she played: Let's Go Fishing in the Morning The One Who Knows Mercy of the Fallen The Babysitter's Here And a Song about a "Captain of a Ship" that I didn't recognize that was excellent! Have a Blast! On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 08:55 AM, Maureen Scott wrote: > I don't know how I'm going to get through the day. I am so excited > about the show at the Wang tonight that I've been blabbing about it > all morning. Even the dog was happy that I was leaving for work. > > It's been a while since I've seen Patty. Even though I saw Dar in > July, I'm looking forward to seeing her again. Do any of you know > what songs Dar played? > > Maureen (impatiently waiting) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:05:30 -0700 From: "Jerry Skomer" Subject: MM: Dana is right! Hey Dana (and everyone else): Thanks for all your stories and offers to send concert CDs to members of the list. You're the best for taking the time to do all this. And you are absolutely right to exhort everyone to buy Patty's upcoming live CD for themselves and all their friends. Can't imagine a better "pay back" for all of the free stuff we've received over the years. I know people on this list are pretty good about paying their own way when it comes to Patty. We've seen her struggle so much over the years, and it's nice to see she's starting to get a fraction of what she's due. So get your credit cards ready, and I like the idea of buying through Jen's site. She really does help the Patty community, and we should help her in turn. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:34:38 +0000 From: danalee7@comcast.net Subject: MM: ACL weed offer closed for digesters too OK- I was going to offer 10 and have 28 requests now- plus some other friends I will include, so I am not accepting any more requests. I am mailing out 16 this morning and the rest will happen Mon or Tues. I am asking the 8 digesters to please offer specifically to other Digesters so that they will have a shot at this one soon. I can hear the frustration that you have in getting your requests accepted- but be patient and just be glad that these concerts are out there now circulating. You will get in on it if you persist. Begging and groveling usually works. :) It is nice to see this list being a little more lively- I guess I stirred it up! I never usually have time to get over to the Discussion Board, but if you share it over there, that would be nice also as some people may not be on both lists. I am off to the Bluegrass fest in an hr- down to the PO right now. Eliza Gilkyson my very fave since I heard her on the Gem concert this list shared, and Michael Fracasso another very fave since I heard him on the Somerville concert this list also shared, see, sharing these concerts does bring in new fans- and Joel Raphael my other very fave and Jimmy LaFave another very fave will be there today! Free concert too in Golden Gate Park from 1-4 PM. It is cool here- 60's I guess and sun is trying to break thru the fog. I don't care- I'll be there sweatshirt and all- My 17 yr old is even coming- right near Haight St of course- she won't be bored. So, ACL project is shutting down for this weekend as the fest is all day Sat and Sun also. Cheers, Dana ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:18:27 -0400 (EDT) From: lindee37@webtv.net (Lindee) Subject: MM: DVD Ok-I'm a little confused..where do I get Patty's DVD and is it out yet? Linda "Sometimes I hear my voice And it's been here Silent all these years..." ~Tori Amos~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:28:58 EDT From: TimSharp63@aol.com Subject: MM: NPC Dana's weekend Dana: Have a blast.........I am so envious. Jimmy LaFave is a bigtime favorite of mine too. Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:30:10 +0000 From: JMPHLBAT@comcast.net Subject: Re: MM: DVD The CD/DVD comes out on 10/14 and is available at most cd stores amazon.com, boarders etc Murph > Ok-I'm a little confused..where do I get Patty's DVD and is it out yet? > > Linda > > > > > > > > > "Sometimes I hear my voice > And it's been here > Silent all these years..." > ~Tori Amos~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:36:45 -0400 From: Sharon Bolton Subject: Re: MM: DVD I was just ordering it as you wrote in... I went to pattygriffin.net and ordered from there - the long way I guess to Music Today? On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 02:18 PM, Lindee wrote: > Ok-I'm a little confused..where do I get Patty's DVD and is it out yet? > > Linda > > > > > > > > > "Sometimes I hear my voice > And it's been here > Silent all these years..." > ~Tori Amos~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:53:45 -0700 From: MH Subject: MM: [Fwd: Guidelines for CD trades and B&Ps] MMers- Since so many are running trades and B&Ps through the mad mission list, thought I'd forward these guidelines that I got from the Gov't Mule email list. Hope some of you new and/or uninitiated traders find this helpful. Please keep in mind the artists as well, if you trade live recordings of an artist then I believe you should own all the artist's commercially available CDs too. It's really just common courtesy...Patty G must get paid for her work, right? Laters~ MH in LA SUGGESTED GUIDELINES FOR B&P'S / TRADES: 1) Communication is the key to successful and enjoyable trades and B&P's. As the trade or B&P is taking place, be sure to communicate all your issues and concerns ahead of time. Let each other know when you send or receive discs all along the process. In addition, at the end of the trade or B&P, be sure to express your gratitude through your own personality. A little "at a boy or girl" goes a long way and feels real good. It's important to be cool with one another. 2) Please take the requested number of blank CD-R9s, packed in disc storage sleeves. Do not send Jewel Cases. They tend to break in transit in bubble mailers and are more costly to send. I prefer Case Logic or Fellowes sleeves. Both Case Logic and Fellowes sleeves are double CD capacity plastic sleeves. If you are using sleeve envelopes designed for a single CD, then use one sleeve envelope per CD. Do not put multiple CD's in single envelopes or sleeves. Occasionally, some traders will prefer to send an additional disc in the event that there is a problem. This is not mandatory and is something that should be discussed ahead of time. It can always be sent back if it is not used, however, it will effect the cost of postage. You will not need to send additional discs with me. I personally like to take care of this on the back end and save the postage up front. 3) Place these inside a padded bubble mailer, addressed to you. Do not use fiber mailers. Fiber mailers can be destructive to the CD-Writer. If you are going to use recycled bubble mailers, be sure to use discretion as to the condition of the mailer. After awhile, it's time to retire used mailers. I have found that six to ten discs in double capacity Case Logic or Fellowes sleeves send well in size "0" 6 x 9 bubble mailers. They are relatively inexpensive, especially if you purchase them in bulk from Office Max or another office type supply company. When the outside of a bubble mailer becomes worn, I have also found it useful to trim down the used 6 X 9 bubble mailer as a protective sleeve placed inside of a new 6 X 9 manila envelope as the mailer. This is a creative way to recycle and is inexpensive if you purchase the 6 X 9 manila envelopes in bulk. After a while of use, the air will escape from the bubble mailer and then it's time to replace. 3a) I personally feel that no staples should ever be used. However, some traders prefer to staple the end of the envelope shut. 3b) Some traders prefer to have their B&P's sent out and returned to them in the same bubble mailers. This is acceptable only if the bubble mailer is in good condition. The key here is that the bubble mailer being sent is in re-usable condition and pre-prepped labels are ready to go along with the necessary proper postage needed. I feel that the person asking to get in on a B&P should make the process as easy and flawless as possible for the trader who is offering up the B&P. This method is usually preferred by traders with small mail boxes and the larger envelopes have to be jammed into their mail boxes upon delivery. For this reason, it is easier to use the size "0" 6 X 9 bubble mailers for sending and receiving of B&P's. 4) Affix the bubble mailer that is addressed to you, with appropriate return postage, in stamps, not metered postage. Be sure to leave this mailer unsealed. 5) Place this bubble mailer, with the discs enclosed, inside an envelope one size bigger. It is not necessary that the outside envelope be padded. Size 9 X12 or 7.5 X 10.5 envelopes work out to be about perfect with size "0" 6 X 9 bubble mailers. 6) Don9t forget to include a note reminding me of the B&P or what I will be burning for you along with your e-mail and snail-mail addresses. I will be in contact with you along the process via e-mail. C) Trades should be made even up with quality media and supplies. Consideration should be given when trading or doing a B&P with someone from a country outside of your own. United States return postage does not work going out of countries other than the USA. Arrangements should be made ahead of time as to an equal or fair agreement. Some traders send additional blank media to make up for any differences. D) When sending on a show to the recipient, either in a trade or B&P, you should always include all information that you have on that show. If available, you should include, date, venue, city, set lists, and source information. Unfortunately, this information is not always available. Some traders choose to be more adamant on this subject than I am. I am certainly interested in shows that sound great, however, if the source information is not available, I'm okay with that. MP3 source files of a show are never acceptable. E) Cover Art is not necessary or expected, however, it's really cool when it comes with the trade or B&P. If available, information as to where to get the cover art or set lists is always appreciated. F) Writing on the information area of the disc should be left up the trader receiving the show. I personally do not mind if minimal information is written on the inner circle of the disc. I put the information on little pieces of paper or post-its, that I include with the CD in the CD sleeve, when I am doing a trade or B&P. G) When burning a show for a trade or B&P, be sure that you burn it without the gaps in between tracks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:42:36 -0400 From: Sharon Bolton Subject: MM: Straight from the horses mouth... Erin, what went through your mind at that moment? "Well! First of all, BIG DESISION! If I didn't I would regret it for the rest of my life and that Patty wouldn't get her M&Ms. If I did I would make a fool of myself but I would meet Patty Griffin. I felt proud and stupid at the same time! She shook my hand! I was shaking!" Well, there you have it... straight from Erin. Begin forwarded message: > From: Sharon Bolton > Date: Fri Oct 3, 2003 9:22:54 AM America/New_York > To: mad-mission@smoe.org > Subject: Fwd: MM: Concert News from Albany > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Sharon Bolton >> Date: Fri Oct 3, 2003 7:41:44 AM America/New_York >> To: Danalee7@comcast.net >> Subject: Re: MM: Concert News from Albany >> >> How cool! There's a birthday that will be hard to top! Erin will be >> happy to read your story - maybe she'll write a little when she gets >> home from school and we can get it straight from the horses mouth how >> it felt. She was so cute! Everyone around her was patting her on the >> back and congradulating her. All she could say was "I can't stop >> shaking". It was a bit out of character for her. She's really on the >> shy side but man, does she love Patty and I think she loved the whole >> idea of our list and giving her something and she was caught up in >> the moment! >> >> Later! >> >> On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 12:56 AM, Danalee7@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> "I suppose it was our duty to bring along a big bag a M&M's (I think >>> it >>> was Dana who started this?) with a big Flamin' Red Bow on top and >>> placed it on the stage. And of course, by the end of the night (they >>> played and gabbed for nearly 3 hours!) the bag was still sitting >>> there >>> and by this time my 2 daughters had stolen our 2 front row seats, >>> sending us back a few rows, and the 4 girls get up and walk >>> arm-in-arm >>> to the edge of the stage for a bow and I couldn't believe my eyes as >>> my >>> daughter, Erin, jumps up on stage with the bag of M&Ms and hands them >>> to Patty! " >>> >>> Sharon- this is the coolest story- go girl! I have a grin from ear >>> to ear with this one- actually we did this back a few years ago and >>> it was other listers that began it, but I have done it twice now. >>> The other time was at Slims in SF on my birthday- great birthday >>> party too at a great Patty headliner concert- during her tour with >>> the Chicks - I put them out on the stage before the concert and she >>> came out, noticed them and was smiling to herself. She knows it >>> means us- her list is there supporting her. And, I just have to tell >>> this part- here is the rest of that story- Don asked someone in her >>> band if she would talk to someone who was having their birthday, and >>> I got to go downstairs and chat for a few minutes with her! She even >>> gave me her gorgeous bouquet of flowers, said they would die on the >>> hot bus. I kept them for 2 weeks. Patty Griffin gave me her flowers >>> on my birthday! OK, here is the rest of that Slims story- that is >>> the day I met Don Henn, he drove all the way ! >>> from Pittsburgh, PA out to see 1 Patty concert and drove home >>> again- met me at my house and drove in with us. He was pretty cool. >>> He is now one of my concert buddies, been to 5 Patty concerts thus >>> far with him. Dana in Berkeley ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V7 #246 *********************************