From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V7 #89 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V7 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. * Also, PLEASE do not quote an entire digest when you reply to the * list. Edit out anything you are not referring to. mad-mission-digest Thursday, March 20 2003 Volume 07 : Number 089 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Keep it up folks and the list gets shut down again [Mike Connell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:17:10 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: MM: Keep it up folks and the list gets shut down again Funny how someone posts that they haven't gotten around to un-subbing yet and in the very next post that person posts a 100% political post about the situation in Iraq. He said: > That's brilliant. The last time we "freed Iran" we put > Saddam in power....I only hope we can improve global > politics this time around. WHAT PART OF KEEPING THIS STUFF OFF THE LIST DID YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND? "Sean & Rebecca", do not bother unsubbing as you said you hadn't gotten around to in the previous post, I just did it for you. Of course I know you are not the only ones. You can resub if you want but I am just making a point. Evil Gary, you are gone too, same rules. Re-sub if you want. In both cases if you come back, you are on probation. Do it again and it'll be longer if not permanent. The rest of you, if Patty Griffin herself does not mention anything about this topic/war, KEEP IT OFF THIS LIST! How much clearer can I be? There is a place for everything and this list is NOT the place. Period! (Frankly, even if Patty DOES mention it, I prefer it be kept off the list. Won't demand it, I'd keep a eye on the list and deal with it if it got out of hand, but I mean why bother? We are really here to discuss her music. We do not discuss her dog, her car, her views on the Oscars, what she watches on TV, or what brand of toothpaste she uses. Why should we discuss what she would say about this war if she did say something politically in public or at a concert? Now I know the war is a lot more important than the examples I gave, but they are not about her career, which is really what this list is for.) Inevitably, onlist discussions on topics, whether they involve comments by the lists main topic or someone else (i.e. The Dixie Chicks last week), like this get out of hand and a list argument ensues and things get ugly. There are also behind-the-scenes ramifications of drawn out onlist battles over hot topics like this that cause headaches on my end. KEEP DISCUSSION OF POLITICS AND THE PRESENT WAR SITUATION OFF OF THIS LIST! Am I clear? And I don't want to hear about Free Speech onlist or in private email like I got from the one dude on Monday. The US Constitutional amendment is about freedom of speech not being stepped upon by the government. This is smoe.org, not smoe.gov. (not to mention this is a world-wide-web mailing list) Very PO'd at the moment, Mike P.S. Sorry for airing all of this publicly and not privately, but as I mentioned last Sunday I am VERY busy at the moment with some situations and do not have the usual luxury of time to deal with these things. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:41:14 EST From: Kaycee973@aol.com Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: MM: RE: Peace EVIL GARY FOR PRESIDENT! Kim [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of Shamrock 2.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:47:22 -0500 From: "Sarah Stanley" Subject: MM: Re: RE: Peace You people just don't seem to have many nice things to say. You know what your mother always said...."if you don't have anything nice to say...." hmm. Life's too short to be so grumpy. Patty Griffin rules! <--- my relation to music. PEACE, Patty Griffin (incidentally, every autograph i've ever gotten from Ms. Griffin is signed with "Peace" before her name :)) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Drank all I could swallow now the moon's gonna follow me home....." -- Patty Griffin ----- Original Message ----- From: April Fritz To: 'Maureen Scott' ; mad-mission@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 12:55 PM Subject: MM: RE: Peace Is this somehow music related? It seems to me a clever ploy to express an embarrassingly naove opinion. Lucky you and she have people out there who can defend your right to free speech while you sit at home and criticize them. -----Original Message----- From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Scott Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:05 AM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Peace Nicely said by Nanci Griffith Maureen -------------------------------------------- To all my fans, As many of you know, my ex-husband is a Vietnam Veteran. What you may not know is that almost every one of the male members in my family, with the exception of my father whose age fell between wars, has served in the military at one time or another. As a matter of personal belief, I have maintained a stance as a Pacifist since my teenage years. An individual can not be a Vegetarian just between meals, and I can not be a Pacifist just between wars. I am against any war, anywhere, anytime. My wisdom may not be yours, and my life choice may not be yours. I believe in Ghandi, who soldiered a nonviolent revolution of Independence through the making of salt from the sea within the twentieth century. I believe in Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who led us all, in the later part of that century to the light, through Ghandi's teachings. And I believe that nonviolence is a viable possibility for all humanity, and is the only hope for the dream of the future for all our children. I am Catholic by faith, and I am Buddhist in belief that this life is all-inclusive, and no one is left out, and no one is an infidel. Having said this, it is not and has never been my intention to deny support to our troops out there on the line. My support, prayers and hope will always lie with our men and women out there in Khaki, and with all of the civilians upon this Big Blue Ball. I am, and will continue to stand here as a patriotic American. With prayers for peace, someday, - Nanci Griffith ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V7 #89 ********************************