From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V7 #10 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, January 10 2003 Volume 07 : Number 010 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Patty Griffin ["Lori Garvey" ] MM: Jackson Browne on Patty (again, sort of) ["Jon Crouse" ] MM: Re: Patty Question ["Don Henn" ] MM: Re: I'm a newbie, please be kind. ["Don Henn" ] Re: MM: Re: Patty Question [Breanna ] MM: holiday gift, revisited [satrngrl ] MM: RE: holiday gift, revisited ["Randy Smith" ] MM: The Long Stairs - lyrics ["Sarah Fennell" ] MM: Patty in Nashville April 19, 2003 [Jim Murphy ] MM: Patty Griffin UK single ["Sarah Fennell" ] MM: RE: Re: Patty Question ["Willms, Gregory J." Subject: MM: Patty Griffin Hi Patty has a ton of fans in Boston, and she did live here for a while so we'd all like to see her come back here. Maybe at the Somerville Theatre again? She won't have any problem selling tickets here! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:58:51 -0600 From: "Jon Crouse" Subject: MM: Jackson Browne on Patty (again, sort of) I posted several months ago about an interview Jackson did on KGSR in Austin...he made a reference to Patty that was very complimentary. There's a transcript available at www.kgsr.com (along with a lot of other great interviews) and I wanted to post what he'd said in it's proper context. ____________________ Q But do you find that your audience -- there's obviously people that like all your work, that are you fans, but there's like the acoustic faction and the rock faction? A There is. There are different factions. There are those two factions. And sometimes I have to try to talk with people who like my acoustic shows into coming to see the band. I mean, I remember finding myself at dinner with somebody, a gallerist, and she was saying -- she was sort of grilling me to find out if the show that she was planning to come to was going to be -- it was billed an acoustic show. The band wanted to come play and so we wound up doing it half and half. But I did have to sort of talk to this woman into coming because some people -- well, I think in the past it's fair to say that sometimes my band arrangements have sort of served a different purpose than the acoustic arrangements. And some people really prefer the acoustic stuff because the songwriting is less obscured by arrangement. But that was one of the things I wanted to do with this record. I wanted to try to, once and for, try to fold the two things together. And that's probably what took the longest to make happen on this. I just wasn't going -- I mean, you can get a band to play great, but it hasn't always served my songs the best to have -- you know, you can have this great moment in the studio and later you find that there's some part of that that's really fine, but there's a whole other part of the song that can be heard more by the heart or it somehow affects people more emotionally, the more stark -- the starker it is. A good example of that is like Patty Griffin made this great first album. And right around -- actually, what I heard first was this band record. It was like this record -- I forget, what's his name? Who's that guy from New Orleans, uh. Q Lanois or. A The other guy Q Malcolm Burn. A Malcolm Burn did this record. And so Shawn Colvin played me this record that Malcolm Burn had done. And I thought, this is an amazing record. This is really, really interesting. And then that's not the record they put out. And I went and got the record. And it was the demos for that record. And I think she did the right thing, because the songs were much more powerful than what Malcolm Burn had done with that record, although I'd like to hear it now, especially because I know these songs so well. But then I was afraid that she wasn't going to make a band record. And so the next record she made, "Flaming Red," I think it was called, one of the most powerful rock and roll records of all time. And it kept all the beauty and the mystery of these really quiet songs and still did a really great job of arranging. So that was a real inspiration to me. I thought, you know, there's somebody who had taken the time to make sure her -- that she started and built a foundation of the strict, stark architecture of songwriting and then went on to find out how to make records of those songs. __________________ For one thing, can someone who knows Shawn Colvin please ask her for the electric Living With Ghosts or whatever it was? That's gotta be like the ultimate Patty collector's item. Anyway...I was disappointed in a way when I read the transcript..."Flaming Red, I think it was called"...he guesses the name but it's one of the most powerful records of all time, lol...but very kind words nonetheless. Go check out the site and read some of the interviews...Paul McCartney, Tom Waits, Lyle Lovett, Steve Earle, David Byrne, John Hiatt, Tom Petty, and lots of other good crap. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:48:47 -0500 From: Gary Jacques Subject: MM: Evil dinner and or drinks-Scottish Rite January 25th So far I have Sandra, Vicki, Karla, her new flame, Don and Dave for dinner and cocktails. Please let me know if you wish to attend 6:15-7:40 pm Jaunary 25th. Once again we will be meeting at Rexy's Bar and restaurant @ 700 Blackhorse Pike in Mt. Ephraim, NJ. Only 2.5 miles away from the Scottish Rite concert venue. I still one ticket, (in the first ten rows or forget it). The semi-Evil One. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:12:37 -0800 (PST) From: Breanna Subject: MM: Patty Question I had the wonderful oppurtunity to hang out with Patty after a show here in Portland during the summer. Her Celloist was on the subject of children because his wife was expecting (she still may be, I'm not sure how far along she was at that time), the friend I was with asked Patty if she had any children and Patty said no. So I don't know about that song or even the comment that man made.... I don't know though, if that song IS about her child, then maybe she said no because he passed away. Also, patty was born March 16th, 1964 which would make her almost 39..If their kids had gone to school together and his son is 27, that would make her a pretty young mother... *shrug* ... just some thoughts. Janet made a point though. She said there could have been an age difference in grade school. Who knows. Breanna "Janet C. Jordan M.D." wrote: I was just thinking and have this question to ask..............(although it s not my business)....but maybe one of you knows....... When I was at Austin City Limits, wearing my home-made shirt with Patty's pic, standing in the longer than long line for food............the guy behind me sparked up a conversation and commented on what a great person Patty is. He said he had known her years (>20?) because their kids had gone to school together and his son was 27. He said she would play and sing at the grade school for the kids..........sweet story..... Today I received the UK demo and listened to The Long Stairs.........about a hundred times........each time it brought tears to my eyes. At first I thought it was a wife singing to her husband, who had suffered a long illness and she was giving him permission die....... " There was a long stair... She held her hand out... She said it's OK... for you to rest now...we've had a long run... we've run a long way... we knew that one day... this day...would come... ....there must have been something good for you to love me so... must have been... something good... only you could know....he walked the long stairs...he said a long prayer....breathed in the cold air...she held her hand out" ..and on the 100th time I listened I realized she said "it's been a long time son....oh how I've missed you..." her words just stop and she hums the rest. It's beautiful...more tears...........is there a personal story here? Thanks, Janet ps....did she perform this in the UK? Did she play the piano or the guitar? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:39:35 -0500 From: "Don Henn" Subject: MM: Re: Patty Question MMers , Maybe the young people don't realize it yet , but folks have a tendency to ummm........ "embellish" when trying to impress , especially men who hit on women , & think they might have a chance. I'm surprised he was taken so seriously by some. I wrote his story off before I finished reading it. What better way to impress a big Patty fan , than imply a close relationship with her. He was either hitting on Dr. J , ( I can understand that : ) or he has a serious self-image problem. Don the guy > behind me sparked up a conversation and commented on what a great person > Patty is. He said he had known her years (>20?) because their kids had gone > to school together and his son was 27. He said she would play and sing at > the grade school for the kids..........sweet story..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:56:28 -0500 From: "Don Henn" Subject: MM: Re: I'm a newbie, please be kind. Welcome Jennifer , Patty hits New England pretty often when she's touring , but has nothing scheduled after her one week January swing yet. With all the newbies who have joined us recently , it's a good time to repost the archive address , where you look over past posts. http://www.smoe.org/lists/mad-mission/ Don > Hi, folks. I'm new to the list and I know all newbies on all lists share the > tendency to poke their heads in and greet everyone, and, well, I'm no > different. Anyway, I don't know why it never occured to me to go look for a > Patty Griffin list online, but it never did until now, and I'm really glad to > have found you all because I think her music is amazing and I know no one > who's even heard of her which is frustrating. So, hello, and I look forward to > hearing all the news and gossip and so forth. Also a question...or 2...I'm > sure some of you have seen her live, and I imagine she's incredible but I've > never seen her and would like to hear anything anyone has to say about it. > Also, I was looking at the tour dates and I realize I've jumped on the boat a > bit late hear and I'm just wondering if anyone knows when she'll be in the New > England area again, or at the very least, when she was. Okay, thanks!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:27 -0800 (PST) From: Breanna Subject: Re: MM: Re: Patty Question Lol, it is a possibility Don Henn wrote:MMers , Maybe the young people don't realize it yet , but folks have a tendency to ummm........ "embellish" when trying to impress , especially men who hit on women , & think they might have a chance. I'm surprised he was taken so seriously by some. I wrote his story off before I finished reading it. What better way to impress a big Patty fan , than imply a close relationship with her. He was either hitting on Dr. J , ( I can understand that : ) or he has a serious self-image problem. Don the guy > behind me sparked up a conversation and commented on what a great person > Patty is. He said he had known her years (>20?) because their kids had gone > to school together and his son was 27. He said she would play and sing at > the grade school for the kids..........sweet story..... Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:46:21 -0800 (PST) From: satrngrl Subject: MM: holiday gift, revisited i havent been able to come up with a reliable place to store the files (the whole locker thing just doesnt work)... *but* i am running a gnutella network client, so for those of you who wish to download, you might keep these keywords in mind: GEM, Silver Bell, Whitaker. i will try to get LFML available soon. Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:53:28 -0700 From: "Randy Smith" Subject: MM: RE: holiday gift, revisited Does anyone know if Patty is planning on coming to either Columbus, OH or Phoenix, AZ? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On Behalf Of satrngrl Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:46 PM To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: MM: holiday gift, revisited i havent been able to come up with a reliable place to store the files (the whole locker thing just doesnt work)... *but* i am running a gnutella network client, so for those of you who wish to download, you might keep these keywords in mind: GEM, Silver Bell, Whitaker. i will try to get LFML available soon. Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:49:11 +0000 From: "Sarah Fennell" Subject: MM: The Long Stairs - lyrics As I'm supposed to be writing an essay I thought I'd transcribe the lyrics instead! Would post the on pattygriffin.net but it is being maintained ;) Enjoy :) Sarah Patty Griffin The Long Stairs (3.23) There was a long stair She held her hand out She said its ok For you to rest now Weve had a long run Weve run a long way We knew that one day this day would come There must have been something good for you to love me so Must have been something good only you could know He walked the long stairs He said a long prayer Breathed in the cool air She held her hand out Its been a long time son Oh how I missed you Mmmmhhmmmm mmhhhmmmm (Patty hums and then two notes on the piano echo it, then once more) The way I interpreted it was as a girlfriend or wife saying goodbye and then when he dies he sees his mother who died a long time ago, and she welcomes him into heaven. Unless of course Patty sees God as a woman in which case, it could be that ;) As Janet has said, it is a beautiful and haunting song, whoever it is about. (Didnt she have a friend who died while she was touring in America? Could be about them) Perhaps the its OK for you to rest now also comes from the mother and then the rest of it is by the wife/girlfriend. She didnt play the song in England as far as I know, maybe someone should request it when she tours the US again. Of course, then she wont play it, so maybe request anything but ;) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:10:50 -0500 From: Jim Murphy Subject: MM: Patty in Nashville April 19, 2003 The Saturday, April 19, 2003 show at Centennial Park in Nashville, TN I wrote about yesterday is a free show that is part of the 2003 Nashville Earth Day Festival. The program runs Noon to 7:00 PM with Patty taking the stage in the late afternoon, early evening. More information will be coming shortly at www.nashville.gov/recycle/earthday Peace Murph ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:52:13 +0000 From: "Sarah Fennell" Subject: MM: Patty Griffin UK single Hey everyone, Due to uncontrollable circumstances I have about 9 spare copies of the UK single with The Long Stairs on if anybody is interested. Postage and packaging costs me just over #5 so I'm offering them for #5 each - mail me if you want one. I hope this is ok to do on list. I'm also trying to contact Lisa Zwick. Thanks, Sarah _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:05:56 -0500 From: "Willms, Gregory J." Subject: MM: RE: Re: Patty Question A lot of people also frequently (and often prematurely) dismiss others' stories and experiences as being fictitious because they've never been in a position themselves to have and share those types of experiences. This behaviour is known as jealously and is also closely related to poor self-image. But honestly... I agree, the chap is crackers. I do have to stand up for decent and respectable single men everywhere and say that not all men that attempt to speak to women in a public social arena have dishonourable intentions. Sorry to say it Don, but you come off sounding like a dejected fan that's never had a girlfriend of his own. These comments will not be taken well, I expect (and secretly hope). - -----Original Message----- From: Don Henn [mailto:donhenn@msn.com] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:40 PM To: mad-mission Subject: MM: Re: Patty Question MMers , Maybe the young people don't realize it yet , but folks have a tendency to ummm........ "embellish" when trying to impress , especially men who hit on women , & think they might have a chance. I'm surprised he was taken so seriously by some. I wrote his story off before I finished reading it. What better way to impress a big Patty fan , than imply a close relationship with her. He was either hitting on Dr. J , ( I can understand that : ) or he has a serious self-image problem. Don ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V7 #10 ********************************