From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V7 #8 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, January 9 2003 Volume 07 : Number 008 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: re: LFML [Danalee7@aol.com] Re: MM: Re: Grammy nomination [Amy Leonard ] [none] [adam segal ] MM: Grammys [Jon Schneider ] MM: RE: Grammys ["Willms, Gregory J." ] MM: Grammys ["Guy S. Kaiser" ] MM: RE: RE: Grammys ["Ed Felker" ] MM: Re: Grammys (sarcasm content...) ["Sean and Rebecca" ] MM: RE: Gem Theater artwork ["Booms, Holly" ] MM: Jackson Browne List [diamondmask@juno.com] MM: Grammies [diamondmask@juno.com] MM: Someone give ATO Records a nudge [Mike Connell Subject: Re: MM: Re: Grammy nomination >>I disagree that the Steve Earle album "pretty much sucks." As I said earlier, I think it's good, but far from his best (and not near as good as 1000 Kisses.) Ok, I should probably not be so harsh on the album. Steve Earle is just not one of my favorite acts and I thought that this album was really just a promotional stunt with the whole John Walker song. Let's face it, a new album from Steve Earle isn't a major event to most music stores or news papers, but the moment he put that song on there her guenteed that he was going to have tons of album sales and publicity. Plus, aside from that song I didn't think there were any great songs on the album. Thus, I have a lot of distaste for that album. Remember when Eminem getting all those nods a couple years ago because he had made Republicain politians pissed off, especially Lynn Cheaney(sp). Even though many musicians didn't like Eminem they decided to nominate him to support free speech. U2 has often benefited with Grammy nods for Bono's political positions. Musicians love to support free speech rights, which is what I was alluding to with my comments. Plus, these colorful singers with their unpopular opinions translate into high viewership for the show because people will tune into see what happens. Feel free to disagree with me, but that's just what my thought process was. Have a good one, Amy > > I am curious about your statement that, "Musicians > love > to give Grammys to singers that make unpopular > political statements." Where is your justification > for > this? Yes, Rage Against the Machine has won a > Grammy, > but Grammys are marketing, nothing more nothing > less. > I won't be looking for the deep political > meanderings > of Nelly or Avril Lavigne this year. Am I missing > something? > > Sean Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 06:38:46 -0800 (PST) From: adam segal Subject: [none] hello everyone i was wondering if anyone in the uk might be able to send me a copy of the rain cd single...i would gradly reimburse or purchase a disc here (toronto, canada) that might not be available over there. any help would be great, adam Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:17:07 GMT From: Jon Schneider Subject: MM: Grammys I was delighted to see Patty and Steve both nominated. They are my 2 favorite albums of the year, along with Beck's Sea Change. I'm a bit disappointed that I'm hearing a lot of negativity regarding Steve Earle associated with this nomination. 1. The Grammys are a joke. Its amazing they ever nominate anything worthy. 2. Steve Earle is on what is probably the most amazing run of great records in the rock era. His records released in the last 7 years dwarf anything released by anyone, Patty included. As much as I love Patty, she's put out 3 records (4 counting Silver Bell) during the same span, only 1 of which is an all-time great, 1000 Kisses. She's still finding her way as an artist and I look forward to the journey. Maybe 10 years from now she'll be able to look back on a body of work comparable to Steve's, but for now, she's an amazing talent who's written some amazing songs. Lets just be glad Patty got some of the recognition she deserves and not bash incredible artists in the process. ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:38:26 -0500 From: "Willms, Gregory J." Subject: MM: RE: Grammys "Incredible" artists and bodies of work that "dwarf" anyone else's are opinions and are completely subjective. I'm not saying that Patty (or anyone else for that matter) is better than Steve Earle, I'm just saying that the statements you've made here are not facts, but opinions... and highly debatable opinions at that. I agree, however, that the Grammys are a joke. We all know that it's a big popularity contest. They do have some good nominees each year, but they're usually in categories that don't get mentioned in the television broadcast or even print media. I'd actually be a little wary of winning a Grammy if I were a recording artist, it's a lot like when a quarterback wins the Heisman... it seems to be more of a curse than an honor. - -----Original Message----- From: Jon Schneider [mailto:jonwendy@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:17 AM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Grammys I was delighted to see Patty and Steve both nominated. They are my 2 favorite albums of the year, along with Beck's Sea Change. I'm a bit disappointed that I'm hearing a lot of negativity regarding Steve Earle associated with this nomination. 1. The Grammys are a joke. Its amazing they ever nominate anything worthy. 2. Steve Earle is on what is probably the most amazing run of great records in the rock era. His records released in the last 7 years dwarf anything released by anyone, Patty included. As much as I love Patty, she's put out 3 records (4 counting Silver Bell) during the same span, only 1 of which is an all-time great, 1000 Kisses. She's still finding her way as an artist and I look forward to the journey. Maybe 10 years from now she'll be able to look back on a body of work comparable to Steve's, but for now, she's an amazing talent who's written some amazing songs. Lets just be glad Patty got some of the recognition she deserves and not bash incredible artists in the process. ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:49:19 -0500 From: "Guy S. Kaiser" Subject: MM: Grammys This may have been mentioned before, Whatever the worth of the award may be, the effect might be to bring Silver Bell out of the vault. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:09:20 -0500 From: "Ed Felker" Subject: MM: RE: RE: Grammys I'm pretty new here, so I don't want to get in an argument. But doesn't it sort of go without saying that pretty much everything that sounds like "this should win" or "this sucks" or "everything but this sucks" is an opinion? And aren't we all entitled to ours and isn't that the fun of being able to -- virtually real-time -- converse with people all over the world in a forum like this? If I say Johnny Cash sucks (I didn't, but I'm fairly comfortable doing it now if it helps me illustrate a point), someone should be able to disagree with that without taking offense to it. As Gregory stated below, opinions are debatable. Isn't that the point? Debatable, not refutable. To me -- and it might just be me -- but to me, for my money, and as compared to other artists, Johnny Cash sucks, in my opinion. Discuss. Ed. > ---------- > From: Willms, Gregory J. > Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2003 10:38 AM > To: 'Jon Schneider'; mad-mission@smoe.org > Subject: MM: RE: Grammys > > "Incredible" artists and bodies of work that "dwarf" anyone else's are > opinions and are completely subjective. I'm not saying that Patty (or > anyone else for that matter) is better than Steve Earle, I'm just saying > that the statements you've made here are not facts, but opinions... and > highly debatable opinions at that. > > I agree, however, that the Grammys are a joke. We all know that it's a big > popularity contest. They do have some good nominees each year, but they're > usually in categories that don't get mentioned in the television broadcast > or even print media. I'd actually be a little wary of winning a Grammy if I > were a recording artist, it's a lot like when a quarterback wins the > Heisman... it seems to be more of a curse than an honor. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Schneider [mailto:jonwendy@juno.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:17 AM > To: mad-mission@smoe.org > Subject: MM: Grammys > > I was delighted to see Patty and Steve both nominated. They are my 2 > favorite albums of the year, along with Beck's Sea Change. > I'm a bit disappointed that I'm hearing a lot of negativity regarding Steve > Earle associated with this nomination. > 1. The Grammys are a joke. Its amazing they ever nominate anything worthy. > 2. Steve Earle is on what is probably the most amazing run of great records > in the rock era. His records released in the last 7 years dwarf anything > released by anyone, Patty included. > > As much as I love Patty, she's put out 3 records (4 counting Silver Bell) > during the same span, only 1 of which is an all-time great, 1000 Kisses. > She's still finding her way as an artist and I look forward to the journey. > Maybe 10 years from now she'll be able to look back on a body of work > comparable to Steve's, but for now, she's an amazing talent who's written > some amazing songs. > Lets just be glad Patty got some of the recognition she deserves and not > bash incredible artists in the process. > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 08:19:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Sean and Rebecca" Subject: MM: Re: Grammys (sarcasm content...) Boy of boy, you are new, aren't you? You're dead wrong, too. Only postivity spoken here. No room for opinions. Just remeber that it's all fun and games until someones says that they hate Jewel. Sean p.s. Jewel sucks and I hate her. "Ed Felker" wrote: > > I'm pretty new here, so I don't want to get in an > argument. But doesn't it sort of go without saying that > pretty much everything that sounds like "this should > win" or "this sucks" or "everything but this sucks" is > an opinion? ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:31:51 EST From: TimSharp63@aol.com Subject: MM: grammys JEWEL JEWEL JEWEL there I couldn't resist Tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:46:06 -0500 From: "Lori Garvey" Subject: MM: Re: grammys Let's not talk about her - I have the stomach bug and it will only make it worse. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: MM: grammys > JEWEL JEWEL JEWEL > > there I couldn't resist > > Tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:56:41 -0500 From: "Booms, Holly" Subject: MM: RE: Gem Theater artwork I made my own artwork for the Gem Theatre 2 CD. You can get it off my trading website www.gypsyjolie.com ... just click on "Other CDR 1" at the left hand side, and scroll down to PATTY GRIFFIN, and the links for the artwork (front and back covers) are under the tracklisting for the Gem show. and of course...if anyone else would like to make a trade, email me! :) HOLLY - ----------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:05:33 -0500 From: "Rebecca Simonelli" Subject: MM: gem compilation contents Anyone know of a finished CD cover for the GEM set or even just a printed list of contents? Thanks. Becca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:08:46 -0800 From: diamondmask@juno.com Subject: MM: Jackson Browne List Man, you're on that list? I was for awhile and I just could not handle the freakin' volume of mail! john in sumner wa ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:05:36 -0800 From: diamondmask@juno.com Subject: MM: Grammies I think it will be between the Chieftains and Earle. Earle because he's a bad boy, (who writes great songs...) and the Chieftains because I believe they lost a founding member last year. It could be Cash cause it's so "in" to dig him. I've heard a lot of people are disappointed in the new Nickel Creek CD. Patty just hasn't had the exposure to the masses yet. They've heard her, but just don't know it. However, if there is justice, and we know there isn't.....Patty would win hands down. john in sumner wa ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:51:59 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: MM: Someone give ATO Records a nudge They must be sleeping! The ATO site doesn't mention a thing about Patty's Grammy nom. As a matter of fact, it hasn't been updated since December 11th. Worse yet, pattygriffin.com hasn't been updated since last May! Gadzooks! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:03:03 -0500 From: "Sarah Stanley" Subject: MM: Re: Someone give ATO Records a nudge I noticed that too.... however, I did get an email from ATO Street Team to sign up to post Patty stuff around. They have her list of tour dates on the site but that's it! Sheesh! Get with it, ATO! :) Sarah - ------------------------------------------------------------- "Sorrow has the sweetest little laugh, and Sorrow is a pretty good friend to have She said take off my blue dress And give it to happiness.... It matches the color of her eyes at midnight..." -- Tori Amos ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Connell To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:51 PM Subject: MM: Someone give ATO Records a nudge They must be sleeping! The ATO site doesn't mention a thing about Patty's Grammy nom. As a matter of fact, it hasn't been updated since December 11th. Worse yet, pattygriffin.com hasn't been updated since last May! Gadzooks! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:14:55 -0500 From: Jim Murphy Subject: MM: RE: Someone give ATO Records a nudge ATO did an email to those on their streeteam list yesterday announcing both Patty's and Gov't Mules Grammy nom. ATO's marketing group sent emails out today again to the streeteam looking for people to help promote Patty in and around cities where Patty will be later this month. Free tickets, posters, post cards (like the ones from England)with new tour dates and other announcements etc will be available to be given out. There is also been some new promo material and promo CD's out recently for 1000 Kisses, there should be more coming in the near future with the Grammy nom. I sent an email to both ATO and Pattygriffin.com complaining, ATO responed nothing from the other site Peace Murph - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Mike Connell Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:52 PM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Someone give ATO Records a nudge They must be sleeping! The ATO site doesn't mention a thing about Patty's Grammy nom. As a matter of fact, it hasn't been updated since December 11th. Worse yet, pattygriffin.com hasn't been updated since last May! Gadzooks! Mike ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V7 #8 *******************************