From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #212 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, May 29 2002 Volume 06 : Number 212 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Re: next generation ["Lori Garvey" ] Re: MM: Re: next generation ["Sarah Stanley" ] MM: RE: next generation [Stephen Golato ] Re: MM:next generation [FlamingRed74@aol.com] RE: MM:next generation [amber bass-patterson ] Re: MM:next generation ["Sarah Stanley" ] Re: MM: RE: next generation [FlamingRed74@aol.com] Re: MM:next generation [xenacrazy@att.net] Re: MM: RE: next generation/Pat Benatar the only female rocker? [beccasea] Re: MM: RE: next generation/Pat Benatar the only female rocker? [FlamingR] MM: Recent Concert goers (tapers) [FlamingRed74@aol.com] MM: the dates don't exactly line up [EveryLittleBit@aol.com] Re:Re: MM: RE: next generation/Pat Benatar the only female rocker? [Jon S] Re:MM: the dates don't exactly line up [Jon Schneider ] MM: next generation.... [MactheMutt@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:21:22 -0400 From: "Lori Garvey" Subject: MM: Re: next generation My son Michael (20 months) loves Patty Griffin. I'll sing - "I'm makin' and he'll say "Pies!" This kid is mesmerized by music. I can always tell when he likes something, he'll stop in the middle of what he's doing and listen. Also, sometimes to get him to sleep I'll sing a song like Mary or Christina and he instantly falls asleep (is that good or bad?) When he was around 5 months he loved Eva Cassidy. He would just veg out. (I suppose that's all you can do when you're 5 months) - but anyway, he loves my music. Lori - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Micciulla" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: MM: next generation > i hated my mom's music when i was younger -- but i think it was just to be > different. now i listen to all of it -- carly simon, cat stevens, rolling > stones -- and even some of the 80's greats like pat benatar. funny though, > because now i listen to them more than she does. she likes shania :-) > > nancy > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:36:59 -0400 From: "Sarah Stanley" Subject: Re: MM: Re: next generation >From: "Nancy Micciulla" > > > i hated my mom's music when i was younger -- but i think it was just to >be > > different. now i listen to all of it -- carly simon, cat stevens, >rolling > > stones -- and even some of the 80's greats like pat benatar. funny >though, > > because now i listen to them more than she does. she likes shania :-) > > > > nancy That's funny, that's exactly what it's like with me and my mom! My dad passed away when I was 6, but I remember ALL of his music. He was in a band and taught himself piano and guitar and sang. In turn, I became a fanatic about music and started learning piano and have been playing clarinet for 15 years and am starting on guitar now too. Besides inheriting genes, I think parents couple with music - -whether it's recordings they're playing or music they're making themselves- have a tremendous effect on children. Even into adulthood! I remember about a two years ago (I'm 25 now) I was playing Cat Stevens greatest hits and Moonshadow came on and my mom sprang up and started dancing around like a flower child saying "i haven't heard this song in ages! your dad and i used to LOVE this song" - she was leaping and hopping like the song says! it was so cute and now that song means so much more to me than it ever did before! :) Peace Train, Sarah ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Maybe I'm a witch, lost in Time Running through the fields of Scotland By your side...." -- Tori Amos _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:39:27 -0400 From: Stephen Golato Subject: MM: RE: next generation Yes! Pat Benatar is fantastic! What a powerful voice and what an incredible 4 octave vocal range. She can belt it out on those rock anthems and yet sing so beautifully for her slower tunes. The only female vocalist that I consider to truly rock. I said _"I"_ consider. I'm sure you all have your opinions. Pat Benatar has a box set that is excellent. And I just recently bought this new live Summer Vacation CD of hers from last years tour. She still can rock. My dad listened to the Beatles, Moody Blues, early Bee Gees and Elton John. So that it all I heard growing up. - -----Original Message----- Nancy Micciulla wrote: <- and even some of the 80's greats like pat benatar. *************************************************************************** This electronic mail transmission contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by another person is strictly prohibited. *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:44:33 EDT From: FlamingRed74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM:next generation this is a nice topic.. my parents were into the hard rock bands of the late 60's, early 70's. I grew up listening to the Who, Black Sabbath, Beck (Jeff Beck, for you youngsters..LOL), Grand Funk (actually my 1st single was "We're An American Band"), Zeppelin, Nazareth, etc.. so I was hit with rock music at an early age. The one thing I used to make my parents play over & over, & some of my earliest, fondest memories are listening to this live Uriah Heep album that my parents had on their reel to reel deck. What a great album that was, & it sounded absolutely fantastic on that reel to reel deck! My dad was in the Army, and used to spend all of his money buying high end stereo equipment at discount prices from the PX on his military base. So then I could not only make them play cool music, but I could make them play it LOUD, and it sounded great! :-) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:05:32 -0500 From: amber bass-patterson Subject: RE: MM:next generation i still love the music i grew up listening to: the beatles, roy orbisin, elton john, bonnie raitt (obviously her very early stuff), and even ernest tubbs. i love it when 3 year old wants to watch 'the yellow submarine'. she knows most of the songs. amber "Through Movement We Find Health" The Nia Technique ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:57:28 -0400 From: "Sarah Stanley" Subject: Re: MM:next generation >my parents were into the hard rock bands of the late 60's, early >70's. mine were too -- partly why it was surprising to see my mom dancing and twirling! Both my parents graduated high school in 1974 and I was born in 1976. By 7th and 8th grades, after I realized I could "just say no!" to Mariah Carey, my favorite bands were Rush, Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. We always joke that I was born in the wrong era -- but I like it, keeping music from then alive now. I also really dig CCR, Allman Bros, Doobie Bros, CSN&Y and all those greats.... >The one thing I used to make my parents play over & over, I used to always love to hear "Black Water" by the Doobies.... "I'd like to hear some funky Dixieland, Pretty mama, come and take me by the hand, by the hand. Take me by the hand, pretty mama, Come and dance with your daddy all night long." I hope my kids dig Tori and Patty as much as I dig my mom and dad's generation music.... :D Sarah ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Maybe I'm a witch, lost in Time Running through the fields of Scotland By your side...." -- Tori Amos _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:04:51 EDT From: FlamingRed74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: next generation Speaking of Pat Benetar, I'll be seeing her & my future wife Bree Sharp (yeah, yeah..) next weekend in Fairfax, VA! Yippee!!! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:12:33 +0000 From: xenacrazy@att.net Subject: Re: MM:next generation I grew up more listening to my bro's music than my parents. He also listened to hard rock, stuff I thought (and still think) were scary. I used to always go into his room and he always had such strange music. Some of it I actually liked. My parents are more into Yanni and Enya... - -Lisa > this is a nice topic.. > > my parents were into the hard rock bands of the late 60's, early 70's. I > grew up listening to the Who, Black Sabbath, Beck (Jeff Beck, for you > youngsters..LOL), Grand Funk (actually my 1st single was "We're An American > Band"), Zeppelin, Nazareth, etc.. so I was hit with rock music at an early > age. > > The one thing I used to make my parents play over & over, & some of my > earliest, fondest memories are listening to this live Uriah Heep album that > my parents had on their reel to reel deck. What a great album that was, & it > sounded absolutely fantastic on that reel to reel deck! My dad was in the > Army, and used to spend all of his money buying high end stereo equipment at > discount prices from the PX on his military base. So then I could not only > make them play cool music, but I could make them play it LOUD, and it sounded > great! :-) > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:10:25 -0700 (PDT) From: beccasean@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: next generation/Pat Benatar the only female rocker? Opinions I have.... On Wed, 29 May 2002, Stephen Golato wrote The only female vocalist that I consider to truly rock. I said _"I"_ consider. I'm sure you all have your opinions.... ...beleive it or not, I do have some opinions and some of those include: PJ Harvey Patty Smith Kim Deal (Breeders, Pixies) Tanya Donnely (Throwing Muses, Belly) Jo Walston (Meat Purveyors) Scrawl Sleater Kinney Amy Ray (indigo Girls and sometimes Butchie member) Kim Gordon (sonic Youth) and I think Patty has been known to rock feom time to time humbly, Sean np- Pinetops ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:26:25 EDT From: FlamingRed74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: next generation/Pat Benatar the only female rocker? Darcie Miner ROCKS!!! Shannon Curfman & Beth Hart rock (to say the least) & Sheryl Crow has been known to rock out from time to time too. (see Darcie, I thought of you & put not 1, but TWO people between you & Sheryl) :-) Dave (who swears that this is his FINAL post of the day) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:43:04 EDT From: FlamingRed74@aol.com Subject: MM: Recent Concert goers (tapers) hey Guys Ok, so I lied & the last post was NOT my last post of the day after all (sorry!) I'm searching for someone who has a good recording of certain songs from the current tour. What I'm looking for his rarely performed songs to add to a project that I'm doing, and would like to release to the list shortly. In particular, I'm looking for "Forgiveness" & "So Long", which I saw mentioned in only 1 or 2 set lists. If there is anything else, like We Are Water for instance (not likely I know), or any other song that you have & you feel may be of use as a song that I already wouldn't have, please let me know! Any person contributing to this compilation will of course be handsomely rewarded with 1 of the 1st copies of the compilation when I'm finished. To make this easy, this is what I DO have at least one very good copy of: Chief, Rain, Long Ride Home, Makin' Pies, Moses, Florida, Flaming Red, Falling Down, Tony, Goodbye, Mad Mission, Be Careful, Tomorrow Night, Stolen Car, Racing In The Streets, Let Him Fly, Mary, Mil Besos, Poor Man's House, Nobody's Crying, Top Of The World, You Never Get What You Want, Ruby's Arms, Sweet Lorraine, & Dirty Old Town (w/Michael Fracasso). if you have anything in addition to this, please let me know! :-) Thanks for your help! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:44:14 EDT From: EveryLittleBit@aol.com Subject: MM: the dates don't exactly line up Pardon me if anyone else has already pointed this out or asked the question, but it's been bugging me a while, so I thought I'd ask if anyone had any info. According to the 1000 Kisses liner notes, the album was recorded last April, correct? I was looking on my news page, and in May of 2001 I posted there were rumors that Patty was dropped from the label & Silver Bell would not be released. ATO didn't announce that Patty was added to their label until mid-January of 2002. So does this mean 1000 Kisses was recorded before she was on a label, or does it mean ATO had her signed for a really long time before they announced it? Sorry if I've spouted any idiocy- I know nothing about how record companies work. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Rachel :D www.pattygriffinlyrics.com ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:43:48 GMT From: Jon Schneider Subject: Re:Re: MM: RE: next generation/Pat Benatar the only female rocker? Has anybody mentioned Chrissie Hynde/Pretenders? she can certainly rock. Marcia Ball also can rock. It is surprising, however, how short the list of female rockers is. Most of my personal favorites I like best when they're more mellow. (Shawn Colvin, Patty, Nanci Griffith, Lucinda Williams, even Sheryl Crow) Jon Darcie Miner ROCKS!!! Shannon Curfman & Beth Hart rock (to say the least) & Sheryl Crow has been known to rock out from time to time too. (see Darcie, I thought of you & put not 1, but TWO people between you & Sheryl) :-) Dave (who swears that this is his FINAL post of the day) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:48:48 GMT From: Jon Schneider Subject: Re:MM: the dates don't exactly line up - ---------- EveryLittleBit@aol.com writes: From: EveryLittleBit@aol.com To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: the dates don't exactly line up Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:44:14 EDT Pardon me if anyone else has already pointed this out or asked the question, but it's been bugging me a while, so I thought I'd ask if anyone had any info. I'm no expert, but from what I've read the new CD was recorded and used to land the deal with ATO. It was recorded on a shoestring in Doug Lancio's basement because she had no label to pay for it. Jon Schneider According to the 1000 Kisses liner notes, the album was recorded last April, correct? I was looking on my news page, and in May of 2001 I posted there were rumors that Patty was dropped from the label & Silver Bell would not be released. ATO didn't announce that Patty was added to their label until mid-January of 2002. So does this mean 1000 Kisses was recorded before she was on a label, or does it mean ATO had her signed for a really long time before they announced it? Sorry if I've spouted any idiocy- I know nothing about how record companies work. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Rachel :D www.pattygriffinlyrics.com ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 17:07:02 EDT From: MactheMutt@aol.com Subject: MM: next generation.... My folks were Southern Baptists....then turned Charismatic Christian....so as you can imagine the music played in my house was pretty well......I guess you could say.........screened. My moms favorite 8-Tracks at the time were Ray Price and Englebert Humperdinck, and my dad didn't really listen to anything......although they would both put up with a little bit of the old BeeGees, Tom Jones, Carpenters, Jim Croce....easy stuff like that. The Vogues (anybody old enough to remember those guys?) and the Righteous Bros. were also allowed. My older Brother Tom actually got away with a Moody Blues 8-Track, "Every Good Boy Deserves Favor".........something like that. I started testing the waters young....with Bob Dylan and Neil Young. Bob Dylan helped me out alot with his "Born Again Period" in the late 70's.....after that, ANY Dylan was acceptable. We even got my Mom to a Dylan concert in 81. It got kinda scary when the guys in front of us fired up a joint, her eyes got kind of LARGE. When my Sister and Bro left, and I got to move downstairs.....it all opened up. I was sneaking in Alice Cooper, Marianne Faithful, ELO, Zappa, Jethro Tull, The Velvet Underground.....all the guys I wasn't supposed to be listening to, although the Record Player was turned down pretty low if the Headphones weren't in use and they really didn't mind my Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings "period". They got a little suspicious when I acted crazy and hung up the Poster inside the Alice Cooper "Killer" album. They payed attention for awhile and I got a talk from my Dad about the ONLY way to Heaven is NOT on a STAIRWAY (of course the Farrah Poster REALLY freaked him out and so I put Band-Aids over her nipples).....and Mom used to come down to the utility room to do Laundry and catch something playing that would "disturb her". The thing is though, now that I'm 43....I catch myself sort of "screening" the music my kids listen to. Thankfully no Gangsta Crap has caught their attention yet. Matter of fact my boys are listening to some old Aerosmith, Bob Seger, Stevie Ray Vaughan.......so what the heck........Lifes good. ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #212 *********************************