From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #191 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, May 13 2002 Volume 06 : Number 191 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: "hate is a strong word" (addendum: or is it?) ["Adam K." ] MM: song about Patty G., cats, turtles and the like ["Amy Emerman" ] MM: Oberlin Folk Fest [Diane Aylsworth ] MM: do you think?....... [Chris Murphy ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 12:26:43 +0100 From: "Adam K." Subject: MM: "hate is a strong word" (addendum: or is it?) I recently came to my own firm conclusion and, just to play an Evil Gary, felt I had to share it.: A while back, someone started a whole string of correspondence regarding Jewel. I butted in, saying that hate was a very strong word, having not heard that much Jewel apart from her most recent album. Yesterday, I borrowed her first album from someone at work and listened to it. Well, most of it. All right, about half of it. Remembering the statement that somebody posted that if you like Patty, you can't not like Jewel, I can only confirm: Yes you can. Ooooooohhhhh, yes you can. I'm with you, Randy (something that, as an Englishman, I never thought I'd say) adam k. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 18:00:17 +0000 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: MM: another thing I really respect about patty Is that despite her great shyness, she pushes herself to perform which I think takes a lot of courage and guts. She has a gift and instead of just keeping it to herself she shares it. That takes a lot of courage and inspires me too. You don't need to be a person who craves the spotlight (which I don't, actually dread it) to get up and sing in front of people. She's not a ham, she's someone with true talent and passion and I think that deserves to be honored _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 18:43:09 +0000 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: MM: song about Patty G., cats, et. al. That was funny that someone thought it was creepy, although he later reneged. Thanks to the people who sent me individual posts with nice comments about the song. While it does sound like I might idolize Patty, I actually don't. I appreciate her as someone who is a true voice in music, very passionate and sincere. I wish the music industry allowed for more Patty's, instead of these young plastic manufactured artists of which we have too many. Actually, while I am a Patty fan for sure and admire and respect her, I am not obsessed with her. I would never ask her for an autograph b/c I'm not into autographs. Nor would I run out to see her every concert. I simply appreciate her from afar as a honest soul who is doing her thing. In fact, if anything, I think she would just as likely be a fan of my music as I am of hers given the chance to hear it. Truth be told, I would much rather see Jewel in concert than Patty although both women are great in my opinion. Again, while some people on the list do might seem "creepy" with adulation, I actually don't even consider myself a "fan" of Patty really, just a fellow singer/songwriter who appreciates people who I see glimpses of myself in (to sound terribly narcissistic). So essentially since I can't write a love song to myself witout sounding like a jackass and because I want to have a new song for my Monday nite songwriter's workshop that I attend, I thought Patty would make an excellent subject. I am still a novice songwriter, so bring on the criticism. I agree it sounds a bit too flowery but I have a tendency to wax dramatic when I write. In person I am very mellow and shy, somewhat like Patty. What is this business about cats? I guess i haven't been paying attention.... Have a happy Mother's Day, by the way, everyone whether or not you are a mother or the product of a mother or whatever............. :_)AMY _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 19:14:27 +0000 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: MM: song about Patty G., cats, turtles and the like OKay, I admit the part about "1000 kisses fly from your wings" is sappy as hell. I will ditch that part. It's lines like that which could give the impression that I find Patty godlike rather than human which is not the case. What I love about her is her human-ness, down-to-earth sweetness which comes across anyway I will probably send the lyrics after I revise them I told you that was a ROUGH DRAFT. I'm sure my Songwriter's Workshop people will nab me for the really cheesy lines. They don't take kindly to sap. So, we'll see if there's anything left after they get through with me. Still I think there are some good lines in there like "Eyes the color of a Paris night" and a few others I'm forgetting now. But, blind adoration is not what I'm after. I think it's funny that someone's cat likes Patty Griffin, allegedly. You know, animals appreciate good music. When I had three turtles, they use to stick there heads out of the water simultaneously and listen every time I sang. And when I stopped, the three heads would go back down. Now, there was an appreciative audience. Maybe I should write a song about THAT. :-) Amy _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 17:41:29 -0400 From: Richard Challen Subject: MM: Performing Songwriter article >Speaking of which, in the May issue of Performing Songwriter magazine >in a little description of the album the reviewer says "From the >opening rustle of 'Rain' to the closing sigh of 'Be Careful,'........" > If his copy of 1000 Kisses ends with Be Careful than he got really >screwed! Those of you bitching about the CD being too short take note - >it could be much much worse!! Hey, I was the one who wrote that review, and until you mentioned that, I didn't expect that sentence to be read as an album synopsis. I was actually just referring to the parts of the album that feel especially intimate... how "Rain" starts with the sounds of real people shuffling around on instruments, and how the devestating "Be Careful" ends with Patty audibly exhaling, like the sheer force of the song wore her out, too. No, my '1000 Kisses' is the same one everyone's been complaining over its length for the past month, I just had it earlier than most people. :) For the record, I personally feel like the album ends properly with track 8, 'Tomorrow Night,' and tracks 9 & 10 are just grace notes after the fact. Anyway, sorry if I led anyone astray with that sentence. I thought the review was pretty decent considering it was limited to 100 words, ditto the article itself. As I told my editor, I could've written a piece three times as long, but 1000 words is what they wanted. It's on newsstands now, so check out a copy. thanks, rICH Listen to Rich: Check out the official website of Backyard Green, featuring tour dates, lyrics, pictures, and sound clips from the new album: http://www.backyardgreen.com And be sure to check out Rich's solo website at: http://listen.to/rich.com http://www.geocities.com/richardchallen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 01:15:30 +0000 From: "Nancy Micciulla" Subject: MM: cats and amy's song here's the thing guys -- just to refresh your memories, i was the one who posted about my cat. i've never had a pet in my life, and to me, my 6 week old little kitten is adorable. i bought him on sunday, posted that message on monday, and the high of having a new companion hadn't worn off. so when i put on patty, and he seemed to enjoy it, i thought it was cute. i sat down to write you guys a little story about it, and he sat on my keyboard. the message was really just meant to say -- have a nice day everyone. i had a smile on my face and was hoping my little story would spread it. amy, i liked your song. i've always been a bit envious of songwriters that can write about things or people other than themselves -- cheesy lines or not. i think it's harder to tell someone else's story than it is to tell your own. i'll go back to lurking now. nancy www.mp3.com/nancymicciulla www.paperwings.de www.mybambino.com (personalized stuff for kids -- it's where i work!) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 18:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Diane Aylsworth Subject: MM: Oberlin Folk Fest Well, I don't know if any of your other MMers made it out to the Oberlin folk festival to see Patty this weekend... although I know Don did b/c I ended up sitting next to him and didn't realize it until the end! I'll tell you, the 2nd row was a wonderful place to see Patty perform for the first time! And free admission... can it get any better? I actually got to meet Patty earlier that day... my friend and I were camped out in our car b/c of the rain and cold when she came walking down the sidewalk. I jumped out to say hello... and those of you who have met her are right... she's very shy. Either that or she was cold and really wanted to get back to the bus b/c the conversation was pretty short. But I'm just happy I got to say hello - I love little brushes w/ stardom! He he! :o) The thing that amazed me was that she didn't seem the least bit shy on stage. Sweet personality and a wonderful performance. I'd give you a set list, but I can't quite remember... Don wrote it down, so you can ask him. I was just happy that she played "Nobody's Crying" (my current fav). I'm glad I made the trek over to Oberlin... well worth it. And I just want to say thanks to Sarah for posting the info on the list. - -D LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:44:46 -0400 From: Chris Murphy Subject: MM: do you think?....... I am seeing patty at both shows in LA and SD do you think she will play the same show both nights? Anyone see her 2 days in a row this tour and can share?. C-Dawg ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #191 *********************************