From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #190 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Sunday, May 12 2002 Volume 06 : Number 190 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fwd: Re: MM: Re: I wrote a song about Patty Griffin-cats! ["=?iso-8859-1?] MM: Cats ["=?iso-8859-1?q?Ma'eee?=" ] MM: Another Patty Article ["Rebecca Simonelli" ] Re: MM: Re: I wrote a song about Patty Griffin ["Sarah Stanley" ] MM: Re: mm: silver bell ["L. Ensor, Juneau,AK" ] MM: NPC: evil test [Mooodeee@aol.com] MM: Re: NPC: evil test ["Gary Jacques" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 09:29:07 +0100 (BST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Ma'eee?=" Subject: Fwd: Re: MM: Re: I wrote a song about Patty Griffin-cats! Must be something about cat owners, eh? EM Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: mantabirostrisuk@yahoo.co.uk via web13103.mail.yahoo.com; 10 May 2002 11:31:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Track: 1: 40 Return-Path: Received: from jane.smoe.org (EHLO smoe.org) (66.89.201.78) by mta593.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2002 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smoe.org (ident-user@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g4AIUSMh027026 for ; Fri, 10 May 2002 14:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g4AIUSSL027012 for mad-mission-outgoing; Fri, 10 May 2002 14:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lawdmms.omm.com (207-105-246-202.omm.com [207.105.246.202] (may be forged)) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g4AIUHMh023945 for ; Fri, 10 May 2002 14:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 10.51.1.196 by lawdmms.omm.com with ESMTP (WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Fri, 10 May 2002 11:26:28 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: 5880d39a-a3c3-11d4-8d61-00508bdca210 Received: by labdcexsc01.omm.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19 ) id ; Fri, 10 May 2002 11:26:28 -0700 From: "Horwitz, Paul" To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: Re: MM: Re: I wrote a song about Patty Griffin Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:26:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 10C2CF5E63223-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 930 Actually, at the risk of being wishy-washy, I thought my own language was too harsh. To a certain degree, it was perhaps motivated by a cumulative and increasingly uncomfortable sense that a number of posters on this list did not just like and respect Patty Griffin, but worshipped her, would brook no criticism, and apparently were also convinced her music has a miraculous effect on cats. Having not responded to these messages for too long, I let the dam burst in response to the song lyrics, which places an unfair burden on one person's sincere efforts; as for the harsh language, I guess I just couldn't resist the John Hinckley comparison. I'm perhaps a little uneasy about songs of praise and tribute in general, for the same reason I'm not nuts about award-banquet speeches etc.; I fear they're not that interesting. But that strictly personal opinion is no reason to call the song "creepy" if ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 09:35:02 +0100 (BST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Ma'eee?=" Subject: MM: Cats I wonder if anyone on this list would own up to having a (quite scary) book called "dancing with cats" that I saw in a bookshop once. EM Stick this in your brwser if you don't beleive me http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0811824152/qid=1021105940/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-0665640-1815030 Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 12:14:08 -0400 From: "Rebecca Simonelli" Subject: MM: Another Patty Article MMers, Don't know if this has been posted already but I found a nice article about Patty's Somerville,MA show on Musictoday.com. Other than some blatant lyric and song title mistakes, it's a nice review. I'm posting it below. Enjoy. Becca "review by Brooke D. Hodess I figure weve got a full moon, so weve got to start the evening with a little romance, said singer/songwriter Patty Griffin. This comment followed her opening number, a Latin ballad entitled Mil Besos, which translates as 1000 Kisses, the title of her latest release on ATO Records. The Austin-based Boston native (via Old Town, Maine) was more than happy to be playing at the Somerville Theatre, where a packed audience welcomed her home with open arms, stomping feet, clapping hands, and loud-mouthed whistles. Before commanding the stage as the headlining act, Griffin joined fellow Austinite Michael Fracasso for his second to last number, causing ticket holders who had momentarily stepped out for a smoke or bathroom break to rush back into the theatre as they heard Griffins crackling chords on harmony. In addition to being a wonderful moment for the often-overlooked opener, Griffin set an intimate tone for the remainder of the evening and reminded everyone that "were all friends here." Though the majority of songs were from her third commercial release, 1000 Kisses, Griffin treated her hometown to a handful of songs from 1996s folkie Living With Ghosts, three cuts from her second album, Flaming Red, and a couple of covers, including a fantastic solo acoustic rendition of Bruce Springsteens Racing In The Streets and Tom Waits Rubys Arms. Although Griffins latest album is essentially a rock album, her band consisted of musicians and instrumentation that provided a distinct alt-country flavor: the group featured Nashville's Doug Lancio (guitars, mandolin), as well as Austin's Michael Ramos (accordion, keyboards) and Brian Standefer (cello). With Lancio on electric guitar and Griffin pounding on an acoustic axe, the band delivered a balls-out blues rendition of the title track from Flaming Red, a number that is more punk rock in its recording, making one wonder if Griffin's true calling might have been somewhere amongst country, blues, and Southern rock. Her presentation further teased with the blues when, on the roots-rock number Chief, Griffin strikingly resembled a younger Bonnie Raitt with the similar long, wavy red hair and gravel in her vocal gear. This is probably the only place where I dont have to explain this next song, Griffin said before leading into Making Pies, a song inspired by the Table Talk pie company of Worcester, Massachusetts. During a solo section, Griffin also admitted that she had waited tables for five years at the Pizzeria Uno down the street in Harvard Square, adding, I apologize to anyone here I may have waited on. As the singer began the tender-hearted Be Careful, the band crept back on stage for five more songs, including a bouncier version of Mad Mission, which was less pleasing than the recorded rendition, if only because the Barnum & Bailey keyboard arrangement was distracting. Other than this misstep, the triowith the help of band leader Lanciocaptured the depth of Griffins emotion, knowing when to show restraint and when to let it fly, but never drowning out the star. Griffin wound the set up with Nobodys Crying, a new song about loss, separation, and the hope for a place of pardon, for both the heartbreaker and the heartbroken. Griffin eluded to the fact that, in aftermath of 9/11, certain songs take on new meaning: This is a hard song to sing for a lot of reasons. A standing ovation brought Griffin back to the stage, where she wrapped up the evening with Let Her Fly, Mary, and a final number she dedicated to her music teacher, John Curtis, who was there among the howling fans. Get home safe, because I heard its going to snow tonight. Well-versed in New Englands unpredictable weather, Griffin added, Its almost May and youre due. As she sang in glorious irony, Think I broke the wings off some little songbird/Shes never gonna sing to the top of the world, the sorrowful lyrics belied the recent success of a sad-eyed songstress whose battle with a former record label over artistic differences could have easily muted her talents. With a brand new label and a beautiful new release, however, this flaming-red songbird has aimed for the sky and, on this night, Patty Griffin shot straight into everyones hearts." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 11:42:50 -0700 (MST) From: brian1964@webtv.net Subject: MM: Silver Bell I just wanted to jump on the band-wagon here and say that I too would love to get a copy of Silver Bell and would greatly appreciate anyone who can help me out in obtaining one. Thanks. Brian brian1964@webtv.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 13:55:06 EDT From: FoxDugal@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Another Patty Article Although Griffins latest album is essentially a rock album I'd like to know a) what this reviewer has been smoking and b) where I can get some. Russ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 12:31:26 -0700 From: Aaron J Adler Subject: MM: "essentially a rock album" "I'd like to know a) what this reviewer has been smoking and b) where I can get some. Russ" Most likely he had just finished listening to/reviewing a John Tesh CD and has only two classifications for music: instrumental and rock. I honestly don't understand why nobody's paying ME to write reviews if crap like that can get published.... Speaking of which, in the May issue of Performing Songwriter magazine in a little description of the album the reviewer says "From the opening rustle of 'Rain' to the closing sigh of 'Be Careful,'........" If his copy of 1000 Kisses ends with Be Careful than he got really screwed! Those of you bitching about the CD being too short take note - it could be much much worse!! Aaron ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 17:42:39 -0400 From: "Sarah Stanley" Subject: Re: MM: Re: I wrote a song about Patty Griffin >aware of this ground-breaking piece by the world famous >Bjxrn Grinde and his/her article in the renowned Nordic >Music Therapy Journal. We all need to be more >compassionate to all posters and their pets on this >list, after all animals are people too....oh wait, no >they're not, but wouldn't it be great if they were? > >Ruff ruff, >Sean okay, look - i don't know what your problem is, but what do you people care how we feel about patty or animals or anything? and don't give me "i could care less" cuz you wouldn't have replied if you don't. i wasn't trying to say anything was world famous, i was just giving a different perspective on his email. i was simply pointing out that it wasn't as crazy as he was making it sound to have animals enjoy patty's music, and i decided to back it up with a little excerpt. i happen to LIKE the field of music therapy and i happen to be an animal activist. what do you care??? make fun all you want, be as sarcastic as you please - there are such things as different points of view and i'm still gonna post my take on things when i feel the need. just as you will still post retorts attmepting to be witty and clever. at least i'm not posting just to put someone else down. but you do what you gotta do, brutha. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Maybe I'm a witch, lost in Time Running through the fields of Scotland By your side...." -- Tori Amos _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 17:50:03 -0400 From: "Sarah Stanley" Subject: Re: MM: Re: Cat Stories >Oh, COME ON!! Like no one on this list talks about things other than Patty? >It's not like we turned the list into a pet-worshipping list instead of >Patty. Thank you Lisa! christ on crutches... if i went back to the archives and found my post where i first mentioned my cat, i think you'd find the majority of the post was about how i loved the new album and then a little blurb about how my cat seemed to enjoy it. and then *maybe* a few others posted in the weeks to come about an animal- patty-related comment. give me a break - how hypocritical is this!? especially after all the jewel and however many other discussions have been on here. and if a cat story or another artist story or even a patty story bores you, fine! you don't need to point it out every time... deal with it - there's a large group of people on here and we're all diverse. i hope you don't react to people in your everyday lives the same way. sheesh. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Maybe I'm a witch, lost in Time Running through the fields of Scotland By your side...." -- Tori Amos _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 14:27:49 -0900 From: "L. Ensor, Juneau,AK" Subject: MM: Re: mm: silver bell Hi all - i too am new to the mad mission, and would love a copy of 'silver bell.' if someone has a copy but doesn't want to make the many copies being requested, i am willing to offer a burner, and trade for B&P or other patty griffin stuff, or ??? (whatever will work). just need the original 'seed' disc, if it is available. i;m on my knees, pleading, here :-) i have been involved in 'weed' threads on another list, where someone offers up a couple copies to the list and each person who receives it offers it up for a couple more once they receive it. anything like that ever happen here? sounds like there is a desire, if some generous person is willing to provide the seed. if you are willing to share, please email me off list, and i will offer it up to the list once i receive it. THANK YOU! lynette ******* >In a message dated 05/07/2002 2:09:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >jonwendy@juno.com writes: > > >> I'm fairly new to the list and also don't have Silver Bell. Any >possibility >> of some more sharing? >> >> Thanks so much. >> Be well, >> >> > >I AM IN DIRE NEED OF A COPY OF SILVER BELL---HMMM FOR A COPY I WILL PAY >WHATEVER YOU NEED OR MAKE A DONATION TO WHATEVER CHARITY-----DO I SOUND IN >NEED? > >RANDY > >I'd really love a copy too. Can send money, blank Cd. Please let me know. > >Thanks >Heather > ' . . . fight to keep understanding and compassion in sight' and ' . . . remember to be kind' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:43:41 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: MM: NPC: evil test Okay Gary, let's see just how evil you really are! http://www.hilowitz.com/john/test/evil.html Mimi :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 21:20:50 -0400 From: "Gary Jacques" Subject: MM: Re: NPC: evil test Hello Mimi, this test is bogus. I refer to question (37) Do you masturbate? The choices are No! and No. I need a "yes" choice. It is the one chance to make it with someone I really love. Plus I really know how to do me good. How's Austin and where's my Austin lesbian friends that used to frequent this list. I miss them. Gary - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 7:43 PM Subject: MM: NPC: evil test > Okay Gary, let's see just how evil you really are! > > http://www.hilowitz.com/john/test/evil.html > > Mimi :-) ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #190 *********************************