From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #177 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, May 3 2002 Volume 06 : Number 177 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #176 [MichaelMorris@webtv.net (Michael Morr] MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #176 [MichaelMorris@webtv.net (Michael Morr] MM: Accordions/Anger ["=?iso-8859-1?q?Ma'eee?=" ] MM: EG Keswick show review: [Gary Jacques ] Re: MM: Accordion goodness [FoxDugal@aol.com] Re: MM: RE: Not on the album [FlamingRed74@aol.com] Re: MM: EG Keswick show review: ["Carl Kremer" ] MM: Re: Accordion goodness ["Lisa Zwick" ] MM: Non-Album Songs [Aaron J Adler ] MM: John in sumner wa is my here [Stephen Golato ] Re: MM: Non-Album Songs [David Tumbarello ] MM: Patty to appear on Mountain Stage [John ] MM: OK I WILL BEG IN NECESSARY....PLEASE READ [ShinesUpNice@aol.com] Re: MM: 1000 Opinions [Mooodeee@aol.com] Re: MM: 1000 Opinions [FoxDugal@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:01:30 -0400 (EDT) From: MichaelMorris@webtv.net (Michael Morris) Subject: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #176 Neil Young's SILVER AND GOLD is one of the most beautiful albums i've heard....imo.......i'm just saying... mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:13:32 -0400 (EDT) From: MichaelMorris@webtv.net (Michael Morris) Subject: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #176 So i'm posting again...sue me....i'm a digest guy. anyway, i just wanted to offer my opinion on 1000 KISSES now that its had time to settle into my ear. At first I was a little disappointed. LWG and FR are two of my favorite cds of all time, but never at the same time. It always depends on my mood. LWG brings with it an intimate, stark, melancholy feeling that I find myself visiting more often than FR. LWG reminds me of a bleak winter. However, when I'm in the mood for something upbeat and fun, I slip in FR. When Patty rocks, she definitely rocks. I'm just more attuned to melancholy music. Therefore, I love the new cd more than ever. It establishes a mood unlike any cd I've ever heard. OK, maybe Nick Drake's PINK MOON has it beat....but only slightly. I think it's something of a masterpiece in that regard. it's definitely a great cd to put on late at night. Anyway, from what I've heard of SILVER BELL it seems to be a happy medium of Patty's dichotomy.....a little bit folk....a little bit rock-n-roll. maybe it'll be released eventually. In my humble and uneducated opinion, it seems to be more radio-friendly than 1000 KISSES. But maybe not. I don't know. I'm just a video clerk. mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:40:14 +0100 (BST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Ma'eee?=" Subject: MM: Accordions/Anger I don't hate the accordion, I listen to plenty of music that has accordions as part of the arrangement. I just think it appears too often and too loudly, competing with her voice and the guitar too much. ANGER If S Club Juniors had just gone to number one in the USA I suspect you might get a bit angry. EM >And for those who complain about the accordion... >please :) Just >because there's an accordion on there, doesn't make >1000 Kisses a Polka >album! :) I love it. It's blends beautifully. But >that's just my >opinion :) Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:44:50 +0100 (BST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Ma'eee?=" Subject: Re: MM: 1000 Opinions Here Here. In my Humble opinion: LWG is one of the best albums by anybody, ever, FR is pretty darn good and 1000 kisses follows the downward trend. EM --- MactheMutt@aol.com wrote: > Just wanted to put 2cents in on this debate...or > discussion. Whether or not > we individually think Pattys new record is up to > par.....is kind of a matter > of taste and really doesn't make us more or less of > a Patty fan than before. > I am a huge Dylan fan. Since High School (in the > 70's) I have loved his > songs. I think he is more than a songwriter.....I > consider him as one of the > worlds all time gifted poets, writers and minds. I > put him up there with > Shakespeare and King David....almost prophetic and > definitely genius. > But there is more than one Bob Dylan album I have > listened to and > thought....."what the heck was he thinking?" When he > is bad.....he is real > bad. I have seen him in concert several times now > and clearly remember one of > the shows being TERRIBLE. It was right after the > thing he did with the > Greatful Dead. His band was G.E. Smith and company > and they were turned up > too loud and the concert sounded like ONE LONG SONG. > It was a mess. > My point being....you can be crazy about Patty and > still not love every > little thing she does. Everybody has a bad day now > and then. > So....if somebody is less than thrilled with Pattys > new CD or Concert and > opens the topic up for discussion on the Patty > discussion board...why does he > or she deserve being cussed out via MM or e-mail? > Pretty immature. (and I'm > still trying to figure out why it's "against Policy" > to say Jewel makes me > want to barf on MM, but it's OK to call another > MM'er a JO {jack off?}, or a > Stupid Ass) Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 05:25:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jon Crouse Subject: MM: Accordion goodness One of my favorite accordion-enhanced songs is The Cowboy Junkies version of To Lay Me Down from the "Deadicated" compilation. The accordion waits in the background of the slide guitarists solo, and then just when the solo loses steam, it washes over everything and sends the guitar off again, its very dramatic, just perfect. The guitar isn't bad either. I think the accordion is huge in Making Pies and Be Careful, they'd really suffer without it. The record all in all is great and gets better every listen though, no complaints here :) I wish May 23 would hurry up and get here! Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 08:20:59 -0400 From: Gary Jacques Subject: MM: EG Keswick show review: First, let me say that it is clear, that Philly loves Patty and Patty loves Philly. It is good to be from an area that appreciates great music. The Keswick is a gem. Patty's voice was crystal clear and in fine form as always. I think this was her 4th show in four nights. I'll let others give you the set list. I get the impression it was quite different from other shows on the tour so far. Highlights for me were "Long Ride", "Falling Down", and getting the finger from Darcie sitting 5 rows behind me. LOL I have yet to hear Patty sing a song that did not move me. For me, simply the best singer-songwriter around today. Great to see all the Mad-Mission folks. All very nice people. Wishing everyone health and happiness, EG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:22:52 EDT From: FoxDugal@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Accordion goodness Makin' Pies does just fine on Silver Bell, and I hear no sign of an accordion... > I think the accordion is huge in Making Pies and Be Careful, they'd really > suffer without it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:00:45 EDT From: FlamingRed74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: Not on the album My list: 1. We Are Water 2. I Write The Book 3. Cat's Out of The Bag 4. Cain 5. Under These Clouds 6. Florida a Keswick review will follow. :-) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 10:04:49 -0400 From: "Carl Kremer" Subject: Re: MM: EG Keswick show review: Here here Evil. Great show last night. As we discussed, it was my virgin run for Patty performances and I was simply swept away. I especially loved when she let go of the guitars and just let her voice fly. Super super. Good to meet all of you MMers too! - -carl >From: Gary Jacques >To: "'mad-mission@smoe.org'" >Subject: MM: EG Keswick show review: >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 08:20:59 -0400 > >First, let me say that it is clear, that Philly loves Patty and Patty loves >Philly. It is good to be from an area that appreciates great music. The >Keswick is a gem. Patty's voice was crystal clear and in fine form as >always. I think this was her 4th show in four nights. I'll let others give >you the set list. I get the impression it was quite different from other >shows on the tour so far. Highlights for me were "Long Ride", "Falling >Down", and getting the finger from Darcie sitting 5 rows behind me. LOL I >have yet to hear Patty sing a song that did not move me. For me, simply the >best singer-songwriter around today. Great to see all the Mad-Mission >folks. All very nice people. > >Wishing everyone health and happiness, >EG - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:18:56 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: MM: Re: Accordion goodness The reason i don't like the accordion in Making Pies, is cuz it's so overpowering and gives me the feeling more of an Italian restaurant than of pies. And I think the Silverbell version doesn't have the accordian in it (I may be wrong tho, haven't really listened to it all that closely yet) or at least a lot less of it, and I like that version better. On the 1000 Kisses version, my attention is always drawn to the accordion instead of the song as a whole. - -Lisa - ----- > I think the accordion is huge in Making Pies and Be Careful, they'd really suffer without it. The record all in all is great and gets better every listen though, no complaints here :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 07:20:28 -0700 From: Aaron J Adler Subject: MM: Non-Album Songs 1. Night 2. Shells 3. Florida 5. Made of Clay 6. Calling Me Home 7. We Are Water Not quite enough to make a full album, but throw in a few covers and she'd be there. Of course then we'd have to listen to more bitching about how it wasn't good enough. : ) Does anyone else think 'Shells' would be the perfect opener for an album protesting this ridiculous 'war' we're in and the idiotic violence in the Middle East? I'm sure Patty's too shy to spearhead something like this, but I was somewhat amazed that she didn't play the song during the Concerts for A Landmine Free World, or at least she didn't at the one I attended. Just a thought... Aaron ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:35:57 -0400 From: Stephen Golato Subject: MM: John in sumner wa is my here John in sumner wa is my hero. :-) Sorry, I couldn't resist. Thought I would lighten things up a bit on the list. Seems like a lot of people on the list have had their blood pressure raised lately. Steve "Don't just exist. Live." john in sumner wa wrote: Subject: Re: MM: Re: Accordion goodness Lisa Zwick wrote: "The reason i don't like the accordion in Making Pies, is cuz it's so overpowering and gives me the feeling more of an Italian restaurant than of pies." Well...I don't hear a song about pies, I hear a song about a lonely old Italian woman who lost her man in the war. She might have been playing that accordion herself :) Actually, I haven't managed to get the SB version...I need to give a listen to it. Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 07:56:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David Tumbarello Subject: Re: MM: Non-Album Songs >ridiculous 'war' we're in and the > idiotic violence in the > Middle East? > > Aaron, This rediculous war is to prevent another sicko in Afghanastan from running planes into our buildings. This rediculous war is to prevent school children in Afghanastan from being taught and brainwashed about who to hate. This rediculous war is to retailiate against what happened on 9/11 and put fear in any party that would ever consider doing this to America again. Are you serious? Do you really expect us to stand by and not respond when 3000+ Americans have been murdered by a specific party in Afghanastan? DT Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 12:07:18 -0400 From: John Subject: MM: Patty to appear on Mountain Stage Looks like Patty will be on Mountain Stage June 23. Call 304-654-7917 for more info and ticket details.The show will air air in late July / early August. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 12:11:38 EDT From: ShinesUpNice@aol.com Subject: MM: OK I WILL BEG IN NECESSARY....PLEASE READ OK OK ---------CALL ME STUPID BUT................. I recently had my car broken into--yeah important work documents were taken but they were backed up---------------the most important item in my car (that was not backed up) was my copy of Silver Bell that someone burned for me a while ago (and might i add what a saint they are)---------so bottom line--------i will do whatever to get my copy of the Silver Bell studio copy replaced (legal of course--------hell, illegal if you promise not to rat me)-------- so if anyone will be so kind as to send me a copy i will return blans, postage, first child or whatever---------THANKS!! Randy Gautier PO Box 751 Forest, VA 24551 434-401-8897 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 12:42:54 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: 1000 Opinions LOL! great subject header! I feel like a fool saying this, but somehow, complimenting or discounting individual works by Patty to me feels a little like saying about a person: "she's got nice eyes, an incredible smile, but a big nose, a lumpy derrier, but is a very gorgeous woman and I love her with all my heart!" Perhaps it's like that Shakespeare sonnet where to point out flaws is a part of loving a person for who they really are, wholely. What turns you on just depends on your mood and what you're into. All of these CDs: LWG, FR, SB, 1kK are all different dimensions to a very dynamic artist whom everybody sharing this conversation really loves. It's all a matter of projecting onto someone what you want them to be, or focusing on what you love best about them. Shaping your own perceptions. As for the different styles, I really love them all, and crave more. I would LOVE to hear patty do a jazz CD! Something really Billie or Ella or Cassandra (of course I would say that! LOL). Something that takes the "Go Now" "tomorrow night" or even the "Copenhagen" from the Newton Boys, and take them to a new level, and make a whole CD like that. I could even stand to hear her do an entire CD of fingerpicking washboard old country blues, much like The Biscuit Rollers, or even full-throttle blues like anyone you could name, only more intense and with better songs. Or if patty got a telecaster and plugged into a Marshall thru distortion, chorus and reverb with a ton of sustain, and wanted to explore middle-eastern tonalities, and going off on a Jeff Buckley high... I'm not picky! LOL I love that she keeps changing. And I love the directions she is changing in. She could do a children's record and I'd still find a way to get into it. 1000 kisses is my favorite Patty CD so far. The songs on it are powerful, and I love how the whole CD works as a singluar body of work. There is not one skipper on the disc! But there are times I crave her rocking just as much... its a mood thing. My friends get sick of me talking about Patty, but they always call me up when she has a show in town and ask to come along! See ya at Stubbs! (outside I hope!) Mimi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:06:27 EDT From: FoxDugal@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: 1000 Opinions Dude, I'm a huge music fan and all, and I love Patty, and I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not looking to hop in bed with her. I just like to spin her CD's now and then, and I think philophosizing (doesn't sound right - new word?) about our praise and criticism of her is going a little overboard. Feel free to do so - I'm not being a dick - I'm just saying that you're more than a little cray-z. ; ) Russ do you ever get wrapped up between the folds of my memory? > I feel like a fool saying this, but somehow, complimenting or discounting > individual works by Patty to me feels a little like saying about a person: > "she's got nice eyes, an incredible smile, but a big nose, a lumpy derrier, > > but is a very gorgeous woman and I love her with all my heart!" > > Perhaps it's like that Shakespeare sonnet where to point out flaws is a > part > of loving a person for who they really are, wholely. What turns you on > just > depends on your mood and what you're into. All of these CDs: LWG, FR, SB, > 1kK are all different dimensions to a very dynamic artist whom everybody > sharing this conversation really loves. It's all a matter of projecting > onto > someone what you want them to be, or focusing on what you love best about > them. Shaping your own perceptions. ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #177 *********************************