From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #170 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, April 30 2002 Volume 06 : Number 170 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: hate is a very strong word/1000 Kisses (finally) [adamk@zoom.co.uk] MM: Patty stuff ["Carl Kremer" ] MM: yet still more patty in EW [RbSayre@aol.com] MM: actually i lie... [RbSayre@aol.com] MM: From ATO Records - Patty Griffin Tour Dates Added!! [Mike Connell <] MM: two tickets for birchmere show . . . [HILARYL123@aol.com] MM: Patty on tour...see her! [John ] MM: New Orleans music [Jon Schneider ] MM: Oberlin folk fest ["Sarah Stanley" ] Re: MM: New Orleans music [beccasean@peoplepc.com] RE: MM: New Orleans music [Chris Murphy ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:03:03 +0100 (BST) From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: MM: hate is a very strong word/1000 Kisses (finally) As always, a tad late on the uptake, but I just wanted to put my tuppence worth in. I feel pretty passionately about my music, but I don't know if there's a band that I could honestly say I "hate". I may not care for the genre (rap, metal, c&w) but I find it easier to ignore it than actually hate specific bands for their sins. If I hate anything, right now, it's the pre-fab tunes that are turned out by songwriting factory's with a sampler (not even the song factories of the King/Goffin days, when at least the people creating the songs knew how to compose) and sung by people who don't even necessarily have to be able to sing (this can ALL be tweaked in the studio, right down to even being in tune). Much as I dislike the bands, though, I can't actually hate them: Some of them seem like perfectly nice, albeit vaccuous people, basking in their 15 minutes for all it's worth. Like I said, it's easier just to ignore them and find my own patch of ground to play on. Sure, there are specific albums I hate: "I Am Shelby Lynne" and "Gold" spring to mind, as well as the debut album by Peppercorn, but that doesn't mean I necessarily hate the artists (and, as Carl so sagely pointed out, it doesn't mean I hate the fans). The difference here, and what raises the passion to "hate" level, is that these are albums I know I'm supposed to like, that are hyped in terms that appeal to me, but when I come to them I find them bogus and lacking anything that engages me. In fact, in all three cases, I found them to be glossy, manufactured and soulless, traits I loathe, and feel...well, actually feel BETRAYED by what I've heard (or spent good money for). I know this is a Patty Griffin forum (and I am getting to that, I promise) but I kind of like it when things broaden out to include other, like-minded artists, and when people feel free to slam someone they don't like. It adds to the dynamic. Sure, democracy doesn't ALWAYS work, but in this case it's...well, kind of neat. Which brings me to 1000 Kisses. I got my copy yesterday, and have listened to it three or four times. I tried to avoid reading other people's postings on it, so I could approach it with a clear head. And now:I know I run the risk of supreme flaming, here, but...is anyone else out there slightly disappointed in this album? Am I the only one? adam k. Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:13:41 -0400 From: "Carl Kremer" Subject: MM: Patty stuff Got this yesterday...skip through the Vigilantes of Love/Bill Malonee stuff if you're not a fan and read the bit about their new magazine. I haven't read or seen it yet, but if they've got Patty, they can't be all that bad! carl >-----Original Message----- >From: wildwoodagency1 [mailto:tim@wildwoodagency.com] >Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:00 PM >To: billmalloneeNEWS@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [billmalloneeNEWS] The Biggest Paste News Ever >We'd wet ourselves, but that would be unprofessional. Still that's >how we feel right now as we announce three new products we couldn't >be more excited about. (That's why we're posting this "mass-mailed" >message to our fellow Profane Saints.) > >First, Bill Mallonee's debut solo CD, "Fetal Position," is being >released exclusively through PasteMusic.com and is now available for >pre-order. This is the record fans have been asking for. Twelve brand >new songs that will borrow your soul, shake it, reshape it, and hand >it back to you with a wry smile. And yes, those 12 include fan >favorite: "You Give It All Your Heart." The CD will ship in early >June. (If you've already sent Bill a check, you'll receive your CD. >If you've just emailed Bill saying, "I want to order it," you still >need to visit http://www.pastemusic.com/bill and submit your order. > >Also, Bill has found the master to the 1995 fan album, "My Year In >Review," which was available only on cassette and only to VOL fan >club members. The original 12 songs include three that have never >been released on CD before ("My Year in Review," "Berlin in '53" and >"Postscript"), early versions of several others, and a two songs only >available on compilations. We've also added previously unreleased >live versions of "Vet," "Earth Has No Sorrow" and "Driving the >Nails" from 1995 and another previously unreleased song, "All We >Left Unsaid." > >Your pre-order will help both these project exist, and you won't get >charged until the CDs ship. There will be a limited number of each >available so order now. http://www.pastemusic.com/bill > >And last but not least, we're ecstatic to announce the launch of >Paste Magazine, a full-fledged, honest-to-God magazine with slick >pages and color and everything just like you'd find in a store. >That's right. There will now be a magazine that covers Victoria >Williams, T-Bone Burnett, Patty Griffin, Wilco, Sam Phillips, Damien >Jurado, Pedro the Lion, Tom Waits, Over the Rhine, David Wilcox, >Bill Mallonee and other artists you love. Each issue comes with a >Sampler CD. Subscribe before our July debut and you'll only pay >$22.95 for four magazines and four amazing CDs. Visit our Flash >movie at http://www.pastemagazine.com and order at >http://www.pastemusic.com/product/328. > >So what should you do? You should stand atop the highest building in >your neighborhood and make sure the world knows that to not buy these >CDs and subscribe to this magazine is a Cultural Crime. You don't >want to be a criminal do you? > >Really, thanks for your support over the years -- this is the time >when we're all trying to take it up a notch and get great music >noticed. > >Please forward this to your friends, neighbors, other pertinant lists >(like Orphans of God, Over the Rhine, etc.), people who just need >good music in their lives, or long-lost semi-acquaintances. We're >counting on your grassroots support to make this happen. > >Nick, Josh, Will & Tim >The Paste Conspiracy >http://www.pastemusic.com > > > >DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS MESSAGE! DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS TO Tim White at >tim@wildwoodagency.com > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:16:04 EDT From: RbSayre@aol.com Subject: MM: yet still more patty in EW Hiya... Just dropping a line to say that Entertainment Weekly has added 1000 Kisses to their "Entertainment Weekly Recommends" page this week. It's basically just a shorter version of the review they gave on a page where they sort of review the best of the best each month or so. :) peace, r ick listening to norah jones/come away with me "I know we're all psychotic, single and completely dysfunctional and it's all done over the phone, but it's a bit like a family, isn't it?" - -Tom, Bridget Jones's Diary by Helen Fielding let's face it kids...my webpage! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:18:34 EDT From: RbSayre@aol.com Subject: MM: actually i lie... I think that the mini-review in Entertainment Weekly is a bit different, so here it is: "On this unplugged set, Griffin weaves her folk, rock and Nashville leanings into a coat of another color:dark blue. B+" - -rick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:30:58 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: MM: From ATO Records - Patty Griffin Tour Dates Added!! From the most recent ATO Records Streetteam e-newsletter: Subject: [ato_records] Patty Griffin Tour Dates Added!! From: streetteam@atorecords.com Hello Everyone! We're excited to let you know that Patty Griffin has added several new dates to her tour, including shows in Charlotte, Asheville, Solana Beach, Los Angeles, Seattle and Colorado! Stay tuned as additional dates are still being confirmed. Patty Griffin Tour Dates Mon 4/29 Ram's Head Tavern - Annapolis, MD Tue 4/30 Ram's Head Tavern - Annapolis, MD Wed 5/1 Birchmere - Alexandria, VA Thu 5/2 Keswick Theatre - Glenside, PA Sat 5/4 Visulite Theatre - Charlotte, NC Sun 5/5 Diana Wortham Theatre - Asheville, NC Tue 5/7 Belcourt Theatre - Nashville, TN Wed 5/8 Variety Playhouse - Atlanta, GA Sat 5/11 Oberlin College - Cleveland, OH Wed 5/29 Belly Up Tavern - Solana Beach, CA Thu 5/30 Troubadour - Los Angeles, CA Fri 5/31 Great American Music Hall - San Francisco, CA Mon 6/3 Showbox - Seattle, WA Thu 6/6 Fox Theatre - Boulder, CO Sat 6/29 WYEP/Acoustic Cafi - Pittsburgh, PA For complete touring information, please visit: http://www.atorecords.com/artists/pg/tourdates.asp You can listen to tracks from '1000 Kisses' at: http://www.atorecords.com/artists/pg/watchandlisten.asp '1000 Kisses' may be purchased at: http://stores.musictoday.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=269&band%5Fid=154&sfid=2 Tickets may be purchased directly, at: http://www.pattygriffintickets.musictoday.com For additional information, please visit: www.atorecords.com Thank you for your continuing support! Feel free to write us with any questions or comments you may have, at streetteam@atorecords.com All the best, Team ATO ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:49:13 -0400 From: HILARYL123@aol.com Subject: MM: two tickets for birchmere show . . . Hey Everyone - I have two tickets for the Birchmere show up for grabs. Unfortunately, after several attempts to get out of a work commitment ... no luck. So, if you are interested in going let me know and they are yours. Hilary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:15:05 -0400 From: John Subject: MM: Patty on tour...see her! I had the pleasure of seeing Patty last friday in Somerville thanks to the kindness of members of this list. Somehow I missed the on sale date for this and it sold out fast, well over a month prior to the gig. Tip of my hat to Don ( he of the flaming red boots ) and his friend Dave ( who posted the extra ticket offer ) and this list ( which made it all come together ) and Ms Griffin, who delivered a hauntingly beautiful set that exceeded my expectations. I had only seen her opening for Shawn Colvin back in Feb 1997 before the HMV in store, and after that set I knew I needed to see the Somerville show. My how she has grown and develpoed as a performer! My only gripe is I didn't get to hear BALLAD OF HOLLIS BROWN or SWEET LORRAINE, but what I did hear was georgous. I can see why MAKING PIES was the only carry over from SILVER BELL, what a unique and captivating song this is! The mid-concert solo section was stunning and the performances of NOBODY'S CRYING and TOP OF THE WORLD near the end both gave me the chills. If you have the chance to see her...JUMP AT IT ! If you are going to a gig, don't take the recent Michael Fracaso bashing to heart. He is an able performer with several cool songs and I rather enjoyed his set for the most part. And the duet with Patty is great, she has been coming out to share the stage for a song or two on most nights. Michael kind of has a Gordon Gekko ( sp ) of the Violent Femmes type voice and I was thinking he should have covered BLISTER IN THE SUN to close his set. If you've read this far and have interest, I can offer this show on cd as a B & P to the first 5 people who e mail me off list. I would entertain any trade offers as well..I'd love to get the 2002 Nashville show from the fm source ( I have the webcast) John B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:23:49 GMT From: Jon Schneider Subject: MM: New Orleans music My wife and I will be in New Orleans between May 17 and May 20 and we're looking for some good live music. Is there anyone out there who knows the music scene there and can help us figure out where to go and/or who to see. If only Patty would go to New Orleans that weekend, all would be well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Not to be too PC, but after a lot of thought I really couldn't work up much of a hatred for anybody. Even Britney or NSync. Best I could come up with might be Celine but I can't even really hate her. Mostly, I hate all commercial radio. Here in Chicago we used to have a good station in WXRT, but even they have been taken over and are starting to suck. (they do occasionally play Patty, so they're not all bad). ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:47:10 -0400 From: "Sarah Stanley" Subject: MM: Oberlin folk fest Okay, a little more info on the Oberlin Folk Fest. They told me to call back closer to the date, so I did (it's only a week away!) -- I first called the General Ticket Office and she gave me the most info. She confirmed that it is FREE!!! and that it will be at Tappan Square. A come as you will kind of thing - no tickets or anything. The festival is both Friday 5/10 and Sat 5/11 nights. She didn't know the entire artist lineup (if there is any more than just these....) but she did know that on Friday Ramblin' Jack Elliot (!!!) and Vance Gilbert would be playing and on Saturday, Patty and Sloan Wainwright Band would be playing. I called another couple numbers and they didn't have much more info but one person at the Folk Music Club took my email address down and was going to have the guy who is heavily involved in the festival email the info I'm looking for (lineup, times, etc). When I get that info I'll pass it along. Hope this helps a little bit! :) Peace -- Sarah ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Come sister, my brother Shake up your bones shake up your feet I'm saying open up And let the rain come pouring in Wash out this tired notion That the best is yet to come But while you're dancing on the ground Don't think of when you're gone Love! love!? what more is there? We need the light of love in here -- Dave Matthews Band _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: beccasean@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: MM: New Orleans music On Tue, 30 April 2002, Jon Schneider wrote: If only Patty would go to New Orleans that weekend, all would be well. To that, I would say if Patty would EVER go to New Orleans, all would be well. I know she supposedly lives down there now, but a show every once in a while might be nice. Onto your query, there is no real N.O. music scene, despite what you might think. I lived in the area for a while, and there are a few good bands, but no real scene. I live in Jackson, MS now, and still get down there pretty regularly, and haven't noticed much of a change in the stagnant scene, but all hope is not lost. On May 17, the Asylum Street Spankers will be at the Shim Sham Club, and on the 19th, Steve Earle will be at the House of Blues. On the 20th, Howlin Wolf has a good triple bill with Trans Am and Oneida and someone else if you like your rock a little harder. Trans Am is kind of trippy indie rock (think Smog, Mogwai, etc), and pretty darn good, though I've never seen them live. On the 20th, Mississippi girl, Garrison Starr is playing somewhere in N.O. as well. Good Luck, Sean np - Cary Hudson ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:57:02 -0400 From: Chris Murphy Subject: RE: MM: New Orleans music I just got back last night from N.O!!! It was the jazzfest! what can I say, another amazing year Galactic Lenny Kravitz India Arie Melissa etheridge Counting Crows - -----Original Message----- From: beccasean@peoplepc.com To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sent: 4/30/02 2:58 PM Subject: Re: MM: New Orleans music On Tue, 30 April 2002, Jon Schneider wrote: If only Patty would go to New Orleans that weekend, all would be well. To that, I would say if Patty would EVER go to New Orleans, all would be well. I know she supposedly lives down there now, but a show every once in a while might be nice. Onto your query, there is no real N.O. music scene, despite what you might think. I lived in the area for a while, and there are a few good bands, but no real scene. I live in Jackson, MS now, and still get down there pretty regularly, and haven't noticed much of a change in the stagnant scene, but all hope is not lost. On May 17, the Asylum Street Spankers will be at the Shim Sham Club, and on the 19th, Steve Earle will be at the House of Blues. On the 20th, Howlin Wolf has a good triple bill with Trans Am and Oneida and someone else if you like your rock a little harder. Trans Am is kind of trippy indie rock (think Smog, Mogwai, etc), and pretty darn good, though I've never seen them live. On the 20th, Mississippi girl, Garrison Starr is playing somewhere in N.O. as well. Good Luck, Sean np - Cary Hudson ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #170 *********************************