From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #163 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, April 26 2002 Volume 06 : Number 163 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Re: Jewel, etc [Vida673@aol.com] MM: Solana beach concert ["Melissa Fisk" ] Re: MM: NPC: weird Jewel thing ["=?iso-8859-1?q?Ma'eee?=" ] MM: RE: Non Patty Question: legality of compilation CDs ["Connell, Michae] RE: MM: Re: Jewel, etc ["Willms, Gregory J." ] MM: RE: RE: Non Patty Question: legality of compilation CDs ["Kremer, Car] MM: New Thread? [beccasean@peoplepc.com] MM: Top 10 Bands/Artists I Hate ["Kremer, Carl" ] MM: RE: Top 10 Bands/Artists I Hate ["Willms, Gregory J." Subject: MM: Solana beach concert Hey all! I just got tickets to the Solana Beach concert and I am about to jump out of my skin I am so excited! I will be home from college in Oceanside, which is fairly close. So I want to know who else is going? I am hoping I can meet some fellow MMers there. It would be great to hang out and have some fun. So, let me know if you are going. This will be my first Patty concert. It's very exciting! Hoping to hear from some of you and looking forward to meeting some MMers in person! Take care, Melissa P.S. Aaron and Steve...hoping to see you guys there! - ---------------------------------------- "I'm a woman. We don't say what we want, but we reserve the right to be pissed off if we don't get it. That's what makes us so fascinating and not just a little bit scary." - Sliding Doors - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:51:08 +0100 (BST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Ma'eee?=" Subject: Re: MM: NPC: weird Jewel thing That'a about bloody right. I have tickets to see her at the Albert Hall in May. Bugger! EM --- Sarah Stanley wrote: > how strange that today after all the Jewel > hooplah on the list, I see this in my Pollstar > update email: "Jewel thrown from horse" -- here's > the link, if you want to read the article: > http://www.pollstar.com/news/viewnews.pl?NewsID=1767 > > She was apparently hurt pretty badly, broke her > collarbone > and a rib as well as many bumps and bruises. She's > cancelling her European tour but should be > proceeding > with the US tour. > > Just thought it was odd that THAT story popped up > after > all the recent email about her. hmmm.... > > Sarah > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > "Come sister, my brother > Shake up your bones shake up your feet > I'm saying open up > And let the rain come pouring in > Wash out this tired notion > That the best is yet to come > But while you're dancing on the ground > Don't think of when you're gone > Love! love!? what more is there? > We need the light of love in here > -- Dave Matthews Band > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 04:51:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David Tumbarello Subject: MM: Non Patty Question: legality of compilation CDs I have a non-Patty question. While browsing the site below, I came across http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/4745 and that made me wonder about the legality of making compilation CDs for friends. Can I legalally make a compilation CD from CDs I own, and give these away at no cost? I'm talking about CDs that are out in stores (not boots or anything). DT - --- Jon Schneider wrote: > I came across this great article with which I > wholeheartedly agree. Check it out: > http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/4744 > Jon Schneider > newpattyfan Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:16:01 -0400 From: Scott Antall Subject: MM: RE: Chords for Tomorrow Night I was so excited that I figured out "Tomorrow Night" that I had to share! Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for maintaining such a great site!!! Scott Antall santall@westlake.com - ------------------- Tomorrow Night transcribed by Scott Antall (scott@westlake.com) I think I have this right. It is close at least! Enjoy! A: A9: D: Dm: e-----------------2-----1--- B----2-----2------3-----3--- G----2------------2-----2--- D----2-----2---------------- A-----------------x-----x--- E-----------------x-----x--- E: E9: Bx*: e-----------------2--- B--------------------- G----1-----1------2--- D----2------------1--- A----2-----2------2--- E-----------------x--- No Capo Intro Start with a hammer on the high E string at the second fret and follow it with a hammer on the second fret of the second string (B) - then strum an A chord and follow below: A - A9 - D - Dm E9 - A A A9 D Dm Tomorrow night will you remember what you said tonight E9 A Tomorrow night will all the thrill be gone A A9 D Dm Tomorrow night will it be just another memory E9 A Or just another song that's in my heart to linger on E A E A Your lips are so tender, your heart is beating fast Bx* D E And you willingly surrender to be my darling at last A A9 D Dm Tomorrow night will you be with me when the moon is bright E9 A Tomorrow night will you say those lovely things you said tonight Solo break: A - A9 - D - Dm E9 - A A - A9 - D - Dm E9 - A E A E A Your lips are so tender, your heart is beating fast Bx* D E And you willingly surrender to be my darling at last A A9 D Dm Tomorrow night will you be with me when the moon is bright E9 A Tomorrow night will you say those lovely things you said tonight <> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:53:18 -0400 From: "Connell, Michael P" Subject: MM: RE: Non Patty Question: legality of compilation CDs > Can I legally make a >compilation CD from CDs I own, and give these away at >no cost? I'm talking about CDs that are out in stores > (not boots or anything). Making CDs, or tapes, of music that is on a CD that is legally purchaseable in stores to give away freely to other people to OR sell to other people is quite illegal and is simply called "pirating". There are other situations tha tfall into "pirating" and this is just one of them. It's one of the things that upsets the record companies and the RIAA the most. For instance, making a compilation tape or a CD for someone that contains 5 tracks each from Living With Ghosts, Flaming Red and 1000 Kisses. Of course that is illegal. Now, of course the RIAA could never in a million years find out, but if someone offered up many copies (or one copy for that matter) in an environment where the RIAA could easily monitor (like a mailing list), that certain someone is just asking for trouble. Making such a compilation CD is really no different than just copying a whole CD to give to someone. Mike . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:00:41 -0400 From: "Willms, Gregory J." Subject: RE: MM: Re: Jewel, etc >enraged over jewel to the point where you get yourselves sickened (ie. the >"living in her van" comment) Do you people even read the posts? My comment about the living in the van story has nothing to do with the original barf comment. And again, I'm sure most people that say they hate her mean that they hate what they know of her... her music and her interviews/performances. There may be one or two people on this list (Mike C.) that actually sort of know her, but 99.99% of us just know her music. It's a little silly to assume that when I say that I hate Jewel, I'm talking about her as a person and her character. Of course I'm not, I'm talking about her music. By the way, if we want to start bashing other artists, that's fine with me. How about instead of a "Top 10 Favorite" list we start a "Top 10 Bands I F*cking Hate" list? It would be great fun for those of us who understand that it's not necessary to be happy 24 hours a day and that it's healthy to vent. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:00:51 -0400 From: "Kremer, Carl" Subject: MM: RE: RE: Non Patty Question: legality of compilation CDs This is true. One additional little item that most people do not know is that it is okay to make a compilation CD or "mix" CD (provided you don't sell it) so long as you are using less than 10% of the music from the original CD. More often than not, it ends up being about 1 song per CD. FWIW. - -c - -----Original Message----- From: Connell, Michael P [mailto:michael.p.connell@baesystems.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:53 AM To: 'David Tumbarello'; 'mad-mission@smoe.org' Subject: MM: RE: Non Patty Question: legality of compilation CDs > Can I legally make a >compilation CD from CDs I own, and give these away at >no cost? I'm talking about CDs that are out in stores > (not boots or anything). Making CDs, or tapes, of music that is on a CD that is legally purchaseable in stores to give away freely to other people to OR sell to other people is quite illegal and is simply called "pirating". There are other situations tha tfall into "pirating" and this is just one of them. It's one of the things that upsets the record companies and the RIAA the most. For instance, making a compilation tape or a CD for someone that contains 5 tracks each from Living With Ghosts, Flaming Red and 1000 Kisses. Of course that is illegal. Now, of course the RIAA could never in a million years find out, but if someone offered up many copies (or one copy for that matter) in an environment where the RIAA could easily monitor (like a mailing list), that certain someone is just asking for trouble. Making such a compilation CD is really no different than just copying a whole CD to give to someone. Mike . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 06:37:46 -0700 (PDT) From: beccasean@peoplepc.com Subject: MM: New Thread? This could be difficult, and fun....let me think....Jewel.....I'll get back to those other nine soon. Sean np - G. Love Greg Wrote: By the way, if we want to start bashing other artists, that's fine with me. How about instead of a "Top 10 Favorite" list we start a "Top 10 Bands I F*cking Hate" list? It would be great fun for those of us who understand that it's not necessary to be happy 24 hours a day and that it's healthy to vent. ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:24:29 -0400 From: "Kremer, Carl" Subject: MM: Top 10 Bands/Artists I Hate good idea, I'll go first. All bands/artists that suck listed below are my opinion. And disagree all you want, come up with all the compelling arguments you want, I just don't like Alanis and I don't think I ever will. Partly because of her lyrical content but mostly because I think she is a dufus. That is all. 1-Alanis Morissette 2-Rod Stewart 3-AC/DC 4-Creed 5-Ja Rule 6-Rolling Stones 7-Air Supply 8-Limp Bizkit 9-Hootie and the Blowfish 10-Shakira (new to the list) - -----Original Message----- From: Willms, Gregory J. [mailto:Gregory.Willms@qwest.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:01 AM To: 'Vida673@aol.com'; 'mad-mission@smoe.org' Subject: RE: MM: Re: Jewel, etc By the way, if we want to start bashing other artists, that's fine with me. How about instead of a "Top 10 Favorite" list we start a "Top 10 Bands I F*cking Hate" list? It would be great fun for those of us who understand that it's not necessary to be happy 24 hours a day and that it's healthy to vent. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:36:33 -0400 From: "Willms, Gregory J." Subject: MM: RE: Top 10 Bands/Artists I Hate I will post my list, and then I promise to shut up for a long time... I'm out of breath :) (in no particular order) 1 - Creed 2 - Third Eye Blind 3 - Pop/Country as a whole (i.e. Shania Twain, Sarah Evans, etc.) 4 - Destiny's Child 5 - The Eagles 6 - Jimmy Buffett 7 - Sheryl Crow 8 - J-Lo 9 - Limp Bizkit/Linkin Park/Any rap-metal outfit... especially those that purposely misspell their names 10 - P. Diddy - -----Original Message----- From: Kremer, Carl [mailto:Carl.Kremer@dechert.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:24 AM To: 'Willms, Gregory J.'; 'Vida673@aol.com'; 'mad-mission@smoe.org' Subject: Top 10 Bands/Artists I Hate 1-Alanis Morissette 2-Rod Stewart 3-AC/DC 4-Creed 5-Ja Rule 6-Rolling Stones 7-Air Supply 8-Limp Bizkit 9-Hootie and the Blowfish 10-Shakira (new to the list) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 07:39:51 -0700 (PDT) From: beccasean@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: MM: Top 10 Bands/Artists I Hate I would agree with some of these, but as much as I hate (yes, hate...sorry to all the "you shouldn't hate people you don't know" crowd) Rod Stewart, I think his albums with the Faces and his first four solo albums are great. Rod is not unlike many other artists who I feel started out on the right track and currently suck very hard. Stevie Wonder and Aerosmith are others. I would also strongly disagree with the Stones. Exile on Mainstreet is one of the best rock albums ever recorded IMHO. I would definitely agree with Creed, Alanis, and some of the others though. Sean (who is still compiling his list) np - the Breeders - Lord of the Thighs (Ironic, don't ya think?) > 1-Alanis Morissette > 2-Rod Stewart > 3-AC/DC > 4-Creed > 5-Ja Rule > 6-Rolling Stones > 7-Air Supply > 8-Limp Bizkit > 9-Hootie and the Blowfish > 10-Shakira (new to the list) ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:08:43 +0100 (BST) From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: MM: Say what? (a belated Jewel/Patty thang) This all moved too fast for me, and by the time I decided to jump in, the parade must have pretty much passed by. But, really: "You can't like Patty and dislike Jewel, really" Yes you can. I, for one, have absolutely no trouble with that. When Jewel was getting all the exposure over her first album, there was nothing I heard that remotely interested me (a far cry from my first Patty experience). It was pleasant, but not exceptional. Only two weeks ago, someone lent me her latest album, and I actually cringed with embarassment through it (and then sighed with sadness at the last track, which showed what she was capable of.) So, I think you CAN like one and dislike the other. I can't even REMEMBER who initially said it, but I agreed with them: the constant linking of the two names. Sure, they may have gotten the wrong end of the stick, but the point is a valid one. This happens all over music. How many times does a female singer get compared to Morissette? Or Tori Amos (if they play the piano)? How many times do male singer/songwriters instantly get lumped in with either Nick Drake or Jeff Buckley (or both)? This is just lazy shorthand by music critics, and it has a tendency to trickle down. Tom McRae was one who got this treatment, and while it did his profile no end of good, it was waaaaayyy of the mark. And no, I have never, while trying to describe Patty's music, ever even CONSIDERED saying "She's like Jewel". I'd just as rather say "She's a singer/songwriter with a guitar", which is a far more accurate place to start. By the way -- nice to hear from you, Gary. I knew you wouldn't let the side down. adam k. Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #163 *********************************