From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #157 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, April 25 2002 Volume 06 : Number 157 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Re: Greetings/intro ["Chris" ] MM: Re: Tabs? [Rongrittz@aol.com] MM: Re: Re: Greetings/intro ["Lisa Zwick" ] Re: MM: Greetings/intro ["Rob Hanning" ] MM: Re: MM Greetings/Info [FlamingRed74@aol.com] MM: Tomorrow Night ["Dave Short" ] Re: MM: Greetings/intro ["Trent Smith" ] Re: MM: Greetings/intro ["Trent Smith" ] MM: Stop that! [MactheMutt@aol.com] Re: MM: Greetings/intro ["Jessica Boyer" ] Re: MM: Greetings/intro ["Lisa Zwick" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:51:36 -0700 From: "Chris" Subject: MM: Re: Greetings/intro > 2) Does anybody else find it wicked f**king hard to refold the CD booklet > into its original shape, or am I the only one anal-retentive enough to even > try? God yes. I'd be embarrassed to admit how long that took me to figure out. =) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:16:08 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: Tabs? >> I've found Patty's guitar tabs from her other albums and a few of her songs from 1000 Kisses. I'm still looking for tabs for "Rain," "Be Careful," and "Chief." Can anyone help me? << I'm working on some of the other stuff, and will send it to Kate and Jen when I figure it all out, although I know "Rain" is in some strange tuning . . . supposedly DADDAD. But in the meantime, here's "Be Careful." RG http://members.aol.com/rongrittz/page/chords.htm BE CAREFUL Capo III Intro: (G)(C)(G) . . . (G)(C)(G) (G)All the (C)girls in the (G)Paris night All the (C)girls in the (G)pale moonlight All the (C)girls with the (G)shopping bags All the (C)girls with the (G)washing rags (C)All the girls on the (G)telephones (C)All the girls standing (G)all alone (C)All the girls sitting (G)on the wires Who one by (C)one fly in(D)to the fire Be (C)careful (D)how you (G)bend me Be (C)careful (D)where you (G)send me (C)Careful (D)how you (Em)end me Be (C)careful with (G)me (G)(C)(G) (G)All the (C)girls standing (G)by your beds All the (C)girls standing (G)on their heads All the (C)girls with the (G)broken arms All the (C)girls with the (G)deadly charms (C)All the girls in the (G)restaurants (C)Pretending to be (G)nonchalant (C)Funny girls on the (G)T.V. shows Close your (C)eyes and they (D)turn to snow Be (C)careful (D)how you (G)bend me Be (C)careful (D)where you (G)send me (C)Careful (D)how you (Em)end me Be (C)careful with (G)me (G)All the (C)girls working (G)overtime (G)Telling (C)you every(G)thing is fine All the (C)girls in the (G)beauty shops Girls (C)tongues catching (G)the raindrops (C)All the girls that you'll (G)never see (C)Forever a (G)mystery (C)All the girls with their (G)secret ways All the (C)girls who have (D)gone astray Be (C)careful (D)how you (G)bend me Be (C)careful (D)where you (G)send me (C)Careful (D)how you (Em)end me Be (C)careful with (G)me Be (C)careful (D)how you (G)bend me Be (C)careful with (G)me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:00:31 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: MM: Re: Re: Greetings/intro lol i thought i was the only one. i spent like 10 min on it once, cuz i thought the wrong page was the back cover (or maybe it's the right cover and i still haven't gotten it into the right order) - -Lisa - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:51 PM Subject: MM: Re: Greetings/intro > > 2) Does anybody else find it wicked f**king hard to refold the CD booklet > > into its original shape, or am I the only one anal-retentive enough to > even > > try? > > God yes. I'd be embarrassed to admit how long that took me to figure out. > =) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:27:01 -0500 From: "Rob Hanning" Subject: Re: MM: Greetings/intro >P.S. 'Reprise' reminds me somehow of the soundtrack music from Hal Hartley's movies (especially 'Simple Men'). Has anyone else noticed this, or am I just imagining things? I'm a big fan of Hal Hartley flicks, as well as Patty (and Jewel), but the track hasn't struck me as Hartley-esque. When I think of Hal's movie music, it's all about Yo La Tengo, which doesn't, at least at the moment, make me think of Patty at all. I must admit, I haven't watched 'Simple Men' in several years. I've been listening to 1000 Kisses in my car constantly since last Friday, so perhaps I should go back and watch some Hartley to see if I notice anything. Rob - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:34:20 EDT From: FlamingRed74@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: MM Greetings/Info Trent asked: >>1) 'Tomorrow Night' is a cover of the same standard that Elvis recorded back >>in his very early days, right? Why then is there no writer/publisher info >>in the liner notes? Has the song become PD? >> Tomorrow Night is an OLD song, that many people have covered. I believe it was originally recorded in the 30's. I don't know what "PD" means.. but I remember Patty saying that it's so old that they don't even list the credits for who originally wrote the song anymore. Although, I do remember someone mentioning who that person was at some point fairly recently. If that person is reading this post, maybe they can help us out here...?? Welcome to the list Trent! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:53:16 -0500 From: "Dave Short" Subject: MM: Tomorrow Night PD is "Public Domain". I believe someone said the composer was Lonnie Johnson. Dave - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On Behalf Of FlamingRed74@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 PM To: Mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Re: MM Greetings/Info Trent asked: >>1) 'Tomorrow Night' is a cover of the same standard that Elvis recorded back >>in his very early days, right? Why then is there no writer/publisher info >>in the liner notes? Has the song become PD? >> Tomorrow Night is an OLD song, that many people have covered. I believe it was originally recorded in the 30's. I don't know what "PD" means.. but I remember Patty saying that it's so old that they don't even list the credits for who originally wrote the song anymore. Although, I do remember someone mentioning who that person was at some point fairly recently. If that person is reading this post, maybe they can help us out here...?? Welcome to the list Trent! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:04:46 -0700 From: "Trent Smith" Subject: Re: MM: Greetings/intro FlamingRed74@aol.com wrote: >Tomorrow Night is an OLD song, that many people have covered. I believe it >was originally recorded in the 30's. I don't know what "PD" means.. but I >remember Patty saying that it's so old that they don't even list the credits for >who originally wrote the song anymore. Although, I do remember someone >mentioning who that person was at some point fairly recently. If that person is >reading this post, maybe they can help us out here...?? Thanks for the welcoming words. Sorry I slipped into jargon there -- PD is short for public domain, meaning no longer protected by copyright (you don't have to list a writer or pay anybody). In the US, all songs written 1922 or earlier are public domain, which sounds like must be the case with this one. Trent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:35:14 -0700 From: "Trent Smith" Subject: Re: MM: Greetings/intro Rob Hanning wrote: >I'm a big fan of Hal Hartley flicks, as well as Patty (and Jewel), but the track >hasn't struck me as Hartley-esque. When I think of Hal's movie music, it's all >about Yo La Tengo, which doesn't, at least at the moment, make me think of >Patty at all. I was actually thinking of the underscores, written by Hartley himself under the name Ned Rifle, not the Yo La Tengo stuff. I just took a listen to 'Reprise' and the closing credits music from 'Simple Men' back to back and yeah there is a little similarity but I admit it's pretty tenuous and am not surprised no one else would make a connection. It probably helps that I have 'Music from the Films of Hal Hartley' on CD and used to listen to it all the time ;-) Trent P.S. '6 Degrees' time: 'Niagara, Niagara,' the first movie I remember extensively featuring Patty on the soundtrack, was photographed by Michael Spiller, who's also photographed almost all of Hal Hartley's movies, and directed by Bob Gosse, who was on the crew (as line producer?) of Hartley's first feature, 'The Unbelievable Truth.' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:45:23 EDT From: MactheMutt@aol.com Subject: MM: Stop that! In a message dated 4/24/02 10:28:19 PM Central Daylight Time, frglflm@hotmail.com writes: > > > I'm a big fan of Hal Hartley flicks, as well as Patty (and Jewel), but > the track hasn't struck me as Hartley-esque. Do you guys HAVE to keep mentioning Jewel in the same breath as Patty?......I'm gonna barf. Everytime I see Jewel on TV, I wanna throw a brick thru my screen. The way she's always there Whining about something else with her eyes half closed in an attempt at sexy(?) or stoned(?) or something. I wish she'd go away. She doesn't belong on the same page with Patty Griffin. (OK, it's late, I just worked a double at the Steel Mill...I'm cranky)(but it's true) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:58:19 -0500 From: "Jessica Boyer" Subject: Re: MM: Greetings/intro hmmm, here's a bit of random info for those who find value in learning new things... PD is public domain. the law currently states that a copyright is valid for the lifetime of the author or creator, plus 70 years, then the work becomes public domain. the law has changed a few times, however, corresponding with the years that Mickey Mouse will become public domain. then the copyright period is extended to conveniently cover Walt Disney for a few more years. this is actually the law that Sonny Bono was working on when he died skiing, and the most recent version of the law is named for him. ah ha. i knew music publishing class would come in handy for something! jhesi > FlamingRed74@aol.com wrote: > >Tomorrow Night is an OLD song, that many people have covered. I believe it > >was originally recorded in the 30's. I don't know what "PD" means.. but I > >remember Patty saying that it's so old that they don't even list the > credits for > >who originally wrote the song anymore. Although, I do remember someone > >mentioning who that person was at some point fairly recently. If that > person is > >reading this post, maybe they can help us out here...?? > > Thanks for the welcoming words. Sorry I slipped into jargon there -- PD is > short for public domain, meaning no longer protected by copyright (you don't > have to list a writer or pay anybody). In the US, all songs written 1922 or > earlier are public domain, which sounds like must be the case with this one. > > Trent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:50:23 -0400 From: "Lisa Zwick" Subject: Re: MM: Greetings/intro Ok, my curiosity got to me, and since I love the Reprise so much and was so upset about it being only 1 min long, I decided to d/l that song you're talking about from audiogalaxy. I was hoping maybe I'd find some more music I like. But it just doesn't do it for me. I haven't listened to Reprise for a while, tho, so I can't think right now if there's any similiarities. - -Lisa - ------ > I was actually thinking of the underscores, written by Hartley himself under > the name Ned Rifle, not the Yo La Tengo stuff. I just took a listen to > 'Reprise' and the closing credits music from 'Simple Men' back to back and > yeah there is a little similarity but I admit it's pretty tenuous and am not > surprised no one else would make a connection. It probably helps that I > have 'Music from the Films of Hal Hartley' on CD and used to listen to it > all the time ;-) > > Trent > > P.S. '6 Degrees' time: 'Niagara, Niagara,' the first movie I remember > extensively featuring Patty on the soundtrack, was photographed by Michael > Spiller, who's also photographed almost all of Hal Hartley's movies, and > directed by Bob Gosse, who was on the crew (as line producer?) of Hartley's > first feature, 'The Unbelievable Truth.' ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #157 *********************************