From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #130 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html * OR * go to http://www.atorecords.com * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V6 #___ gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, April 12 2002 Volume 06 : Number 130 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: patty in store events [FoxDugal@aol.com] MM: Quality/Quantity ["Mike Acerbo" ] MM: Re: Re: ["Patti Moran" ] Re: MM: Quality/Quantity ["Karla Frisco" ] MM: 1000 kisses-Chief ["Blue Rhino" ] Re: MM: Quality/Quantity [Greg Smith ] MM: RE: Re: ["Willms, Gregory J." ] Re: MM: Quality/Quantity [beccasean@peoplepc.com] Re: MM: RE: Re: [ShinesUpNice@aol.com] How patty looks on stage Was - RE: MM: Quality/Quantity [amber bass-pat] Re: How patty looks on stage Was - RE: MM: Quality/Quantity [Chris Negr] MM: Quality/Quantity & a thumbs up for Chief [David Tumbarello ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 01:35:40 EDT From: FoxDugal@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: patty in store events Someone on this list had made it clear to me that Patty does not support taping, however there were at least 2 people with video cameras at HMV today, and the only objection anyone had was to one man's tripod. My friend and I got a minidisc pull up by the front. Russ > How do you all think it would be to record (video) of Patty's In Store's? > Is it rude or even allowed? I would love to have it on video ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:21:09 -0400 From: "Mike Acerbo" Subject: MM: Quality/Quantity I love the new album except for the fact that it is way to short and there is way too much accordian on it. It makes some of the darker songs almost sound happy. A song or two is fine but it starts to bother you after a while. She could have put atleast 3 more tunes on it. Some of the Silver Bell stuff would have sounded much better arranged a la 1000 kisses anyway, judging from what I've heard from Silver off Audiogalaxy. Still, this is her best effort since Ghosts. I listen to it over and over again. Didn't do that with Red. I was also at Joe's Pub in NYC. Me and my friends were all PISSED that she only sang 12 songs for 25 bucks and dinner! FUCK THAT, in plain english. This is her 3rd realease. She is well established, and has 4 albums of material to perform. The show should have been atleast an hour and a half. Don't get me wrong. SHE RULED. Looked amazing and sounded better than she did on the RED tour, but she should have given a little more music. Also, someone needs to tell her that she looks absolutely ridiculous without an instrument in her hands. That flying thing with her arms is REAL BAD. One last thing. I saw her at Borders books also. Met her up close and was taken back by her beauty. It is so weird how odd she looks on camera. She's not very photogenic and interesting to watch on tv. I think it doesn't help her career much. Her performance on Conan was very unflattering. She looks totally different in real life. Any thoughts? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:55:09 -0400 From: "Patti Moran" Subject: MM: Re: Re: I thought LRH was perfect; impossible to improve...then I heard Emmylou ! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" To: Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:19 AM Subject: MM: Re: > I don't care for the cover versions, probably because I like to hear Patty's > own work. Still, Stolen Car and TN rank among the top cover versions I've > ever heard. On another note, is anyone else totally in love with the added > background vocals on LRH? I love it, it sounds so good. > > ~ Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:55:06 -0400 From: "Karla Frisco" Subject: Re: MM: Quality/Quantity Hi all! 10 hours until I will get to hear, see, and meet Patty! I just had to respond to this lastest email. I do believe it was from a Mike. How can you be so pissed? $25 for dinner and a concert, I think you got a bargain, no matter how short you felt Patty's performance was. As for her hand movements, I think they are cute and endearing. I remember my first concert, my very 1st experience hearing Patty, she was sing One Big Love, she did this very cute and fun arm thing just as she sang "do it like a monkey". As a matter of fact I do the same thing when I hear the song (which I usually am sing at the top of my lungs) and my kids(who are teenagers) giggle. I asked why and they said, mom you look like a kid, and you look like you are having so much fun. I can still see her doing it like a monkey and I smile every time. Now as for being photogenic, that is a shame that you think she isn't, I think she is much more photogenic then most. I don't believe that is holding her back, unless you are the type that needs the, uhoh, I truly am not starting this again, the Brittney Spears look, to enjoy music. As for me, Patty could look like the monkey that everyone is doing it like and still be my favorite, it's her musical talent that captured me (plus the cute way she does things and her modesty). Just had to spout my two cents worth. Peace, Karla - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:08:52 -0400 From: "Blue Rhino" Subject: MM: 1000 kisses-Chief As I've been reading everyone's thoughs on the new album, I've noticed that most everyone likes Rain a lot, if not most on the album. Am I the only person who loves Chief?? I find it to be one of the best songs on the album, Patty's voice is very strong on this track, and I love the arrangement. But I'm also one of the few who would choose FR over LWG as my desert island cd. Maybe that has something to do with it. I am a fan of the faster, harder songs a la FR, but a slower song that is powerful and keeps my attention is great, too... That's one of the problems I'm having with 1000 kisses. Some of the slower songs kind of just dissapear as they play and before I know it, the CD is back to Rain and I think "whoa, where'd the rest of the album go?" Regardless of this, I do enjoy the album, and am not at all disappointed with it. After all the waiting, and waiting and waiting for a new album, I figured that disappointment was imminent because nothing would be able to live up to the anticipation... At least I was wrong about that. :) Off topic, the picture of Patty of pattygriffin.com is adorable, and I can't wait to see the new site! Erica ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:13:53 -0400 From: Greg Smith Subject: Re: MM: Quality/Quantity At 07:55 AM 4/12/2002 -0400, Karla Frisco wrote: >Hi all! 10 hours until I will get to hear, see, and meet Patty! I just >had to respond to this lastest email. I do believe it was from a Mike. >How can you be so pissed? $25 for dinner and a concert, I think you got a >bargain, no matter how short you felt Patty's performance was. Oh no no no... assuming you are talking about Joe's Pub, dinner was not included. Dinner for two was another $70 on top of the $50 for tickets, including tax and tip and all that. So it was actually $60 for dinner and a concert (each person). Personally, I do think it was worth it... Greg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:21:49 -0400 From: "Willms, Gregory J." Subject: MM: RE: Re: Actually, I don't care for the background vocals on that song. I am a die hard fan of just Patty and her guitar. Anything else takes away from that beautiful duo. Also, you have to admire someone who puts out an album that features a voice and one instrument, that takes balls. - -----Original Message----- From: Chris [mailto:Chris_354@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:20 AM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: Re: I don't care for the cover versions, probably because I like to hear Patty's own work. Still, Stolen Car and TN rank among the top cover versions I've ever heard. On another note, is anyone else totally in love with the added background vocals on LRH? I love it, it sounds so good. ~ Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 06:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: beccasean@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: MM: Quality/Quantity I can relate. I, too, would have been peaved. It's not that I expect every show to last three hours, but 12 songs is a little weak. The last time I saw Son Volt, the tickets were cheap ($10) so I shouldn't complain, but after buying all the Uncle Tupelo discs, and the Son Volt discs, staying up late to catch them on Conan, arguing the merits of the band to non-believers, and then to see them play for ONE HOUR!?!? I was pissed, and would have been pissed if I was at Joe's Pub too. Sorry, I'm selfish, but dammit, play for AT LEAST an hour and a half. You're right, she's got four albums, and I would assume several other songs to pick from. I say dress up like a monkey and give me two hours! Sean np - Tim Easton: Truth About Us Mike said: She is well established, and has 4 albums of material to perform. The show should have been atleast an hour and a half. ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:38:15 EDT From: ShinesUpNice@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: Re: In a message dated 04/12/2002 6:24:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Gregory.Willms@qwest.com writes: > On another note, is anyone else totally in love with the added > background vocals on LRH? I love it, it sounds so good. > > ~ Chris > Chris- The background vocals on LRH are perfect-------Its like sewing the hem of a blanket with gold thread (no i am not trying to be poetic or write a lyric)----LRH is one of the most heart felt songs I have ever listened to. Randy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:57:22 -0500 From: amber bass-patterson Subject: How patty looks on stage Was - RE: MM: Quality/Quantity I enjoy watching patty express herself, however awkward it may seem to others. so it's not perfectly choreographed, at least it's genuine and coming from a place of passion (it seems to me anyway). i appreciate an artist who doesn't alter what comes out of them naturally for the sake of appearance. we were watching an iris dement video the other day and my husband commented that she really contorts her face sometimes. maybe so, but if that is what makes her voice so sweet, then contort away! amber "Through Movement We Find Health" The Nia Technique - -----Original Message----- From: Karla Frisco [SMTP:mercyme37@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:55 AM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: Re: MM: Quality/Quantity Hi all! 10 hours until I will get to hear, see, and meet Patty! I just had to respond to this lastest email. I do believe it was from a Mike. How can you be so pissed? $25 for dinner and a concert, I think you got a bargain, no matter how short you felt Patty's performance was. As for her hand movements, I think they are cute and endearing. I remember my first concert, my very 1st experience hearing Patty, she was sing One Big Love, she did this very cute and fun arm thing just as she sang "do it like a monkey". As a matter of fact I do the same thing when I hear the song (which I usually am sing at the top of my lungs) and my kids(who are teenagers) giggle. I asked why and they said, mom you look like a kid, and you look like you are having so much fun. I can still see her doing it like a monkey and I smile every time. Now as for being photogenic, that is a shame that you think she isn't, I think she is much more photogenic then most. I don't believe that is holding her back, unless you are the type that needs the, uhoh, I truly am not starting this again, the Brittney Spears look, to enjoy music. As for me, Patty could look like the monkey that everyone is doing it like and still be my favorite, it's her musical talent that captured me (plus the cute way she does things and her modesty). Just had to spout my two cents worth. Peace, Karla - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Negrin Subject: Re: How patty looks on stage Was - RE: MM: Quality/Quantity I agree. I revel in an artists own movements, Especially when there nervous. It might be a little uncomfortable but experimenting is what makes great artists both humble and even more amazing at the same time. As for the set I always want more but didn't feel the slightest bit cheated. The cost of dinner, well thats just New York love it or leave it. - --Chris (NYC) amber bass-patterson wrote: I enjoy watching patty express herself, however awkward it may seem to others. so it's not perfectly choreographed, at least it's genuine and coming from a place of passion (it seems to me anyway). i appreciate an artist who doesn't alter what comes out of them naturally for the sake of appearance. we were watching an iris dement video the other day and my husband commented that she really contorts her face sometimes. maybe so, but if that is what makes her voice so sweet, then contort away! amber "Through Movement We Find Health" The Nia Technique - -----Original Message----- From: Karla Frisco [SMTP:mercyme37@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:55 AM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: Re: MM: Quality/Quantity Hi all! 10 hours until I will get to hear, see, and meet Patty! I just had to respond to this lastest email. I do believe it was from a Mike. How can you be so pissed? $25 for dinner and a concert, I think you got a bargain, no matter how short you felt Patty's performance was. As for her hand movements, I think they are cute and endearing. I remember my first concert, my very 1st experience hearing Patty, she was sing One Big Love, she did this very cute and fun arm thing just as she sang "do it like a monkey". As a matter of fact I do the same thing when I hear the song (which I usually am sing at the top of my lungs) and my kids(who are teenagers) giggle. I asked why and they said, mom you look like a kid, and you look like you are having so much fun. I can still see her doing it like a monkey and I smile every time. Now as for being photogenic, that is a shame that you think she isn't, I think she is much more photogenic then most. I don't believe that is holding her back, unless you are the type that needs the, uhoh, I truly am not starting this again, the Brittney Spears look, to enjoy music. As for me, Patty could look like the monkey that everyone is doing it like and still be my favorite, it's her musical talent that captured me (plus the cute way she does things and her modesty). Just had to spout my two cents worth. Peace, Karla - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:16:33 -0700 (PDT) From: David Tumbarello Subject: MM: Quality/Quantity & a thumbs up for Chief Yes, it may be disappointing if she played for an hour. But put yourself in her shoes. She has booked a tour that includes no fewer than 20 appearances in the month of April alone. Her instrument is her voice and if she blows it on a long set early in the tour, what will be said about her then? She is taking a calculated risk--perform a "short" set, but make a lot of appearances. It may disappoint some, but it should thrill a greater quantity of fans. My second point is about Chief. The track has a poignant story, great lyrics, great choice of instruments, a great feel for taking the audience to a place that at times sounds Indian, native American, and a beautiful integration of different tempos. Two big thumbs up for Chief. DT - --- beccasean@peoplepc.com wrote: > I can relate. I, too, would have been peaved. > It's > not that I expect every show to last three hours, > but > 12 songs is a little weak. The last time I saw Son > Volt, the tickets were cheap ($10) so I shouldn't > complain, but after buying all the Uncle Tupelo > discs, > and the Son Volt discs, staying up late to catch > them > on Conan, arguing the merits of the band to > non-believers, and then to see them play for ONE > HOUR!?!? I was pissed, and would have been pissed if > I > was at Joe's Pub too. Sorry, I'm selfish, but > dammit, > play for AT LEAST an hour and a half. You're right, > she's got four albums, and I would assume several > other > songs to pick from. I say dress up like a monkey > and > give me two hours! > > Sean > np - Tim Easton: Truth About Us > > > Mike said: > She is well established, and has 4 albums of > material to perform. The show should have been > atleast > an hour and a half. > > > ________________________________________________ > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:22:57 -0400 From: Gary Jacques Subject: MM: HEADS UP! PATTY TODAY! Patty Griffin will be interviewed and sing a few tunes at WPXN 88.5 Philadelphia between noon and 1pm today! You can listen live at www.xpn.org. When you get to the home page click on "Listen Live". XPN the greatest radio station in the USA! IMHO! Evil Gary ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #130 *********************************