From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V6 #39 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/pattyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, February 7 2002 Volume 06 : Number 039 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Used CD's [David Lewis ] MM: Re: Patty on ebay [Rongrittz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 22:23:39 -0400 From: David Lewis Subject: MM: Used CD's <> Uh... yes. Absolutely it is ripping off the artist. The only time I ever make a copy of a CD is to have a duplicate copy of a CD I already own for use in my car (so I don't have to drag my cd's back and forth from the house to the car all the time). So... on 'backup copy' for personal use only. I will LEND my CD's to a friend or even buy them a copy if they are a close friend and I just know they will love it... but give them a tape of CDR copy!?!? No way. Absolutely no way at all. I wouldn't even think of it. I actually was going to lend a copy of a new CD I bought to a person at work a little while ago... someone I had not lent stuff to before... and she said "great... I'll burn myself a copy"... to which I said... uh... no... I don't think so. I lent it to her for the day at work so she could listen to it at work (with headphones of course :) but I asked her to return the CD to mr before she went home for the day... which she was totally cool with. She fully understands and respects my point of view. As for buying used CD's. There's nothing wrong with that I don't think. Someone already paid for it. The only problem is, many times the CD's that used record stores sell come from record company reps and/or record store employees selling their promo copies. That is completely illegal and not very cool at all. BTW... the other thing that is totally not cool is Columbia House. The artists don't make a single cent off the (essentially counterfeit) CD's that those music clubs sell. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 22:34:19 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: Patty on ebay >> There's a "Patty Griffin, live and rare" cd for sale again on ebay. Didn't ebay put a stop to selling these bootlegs? << Interesting . . . hmmm . . . in light of the liberal attitude here regarding used CDs, why should it be wrong to sell the boots on ebay? It's not taking any money out of Patty's pocket. The CD is not commercially available, so it's not like someone's NOT buying the "official" version. Someone's just sharing Patty's music, right? What's the difference between a "Not for resale" disc being sold at a record store and a bootleg being sold at auction? Didn't someone here say "When you buy something, it is yours to do what you want with, including selling it"? Not that I agree, mind you, but this flip side of recent discussions intrigues me. RG ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V6 #39 ********************************