From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V5 #182 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/pattyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, July 31 2001 Volume 05 : Number 182 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Patty Setlist From Cat's Cradle [Richard Challen ] Re: MM: Patty Setlist From Cat's Cradle [Mooodeee@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 02:08:55 -0400 From: Richard Challen Subject: MM: Patty Setlist From Cat's Cradle Hey all, I don't need to reiterate what many have already said on the list about Patty's recent spate of live shows: They're inspiring, amazing, and it boggles the mind why record labels don't seem to "get" her in the way us fans do. (Ironically, while Patty's biggest strength is probably her live show, she hasn't played many solo shows at all in the last 3 years--granted, probably due to financial reasons--but, more importantly, she's VERY anti-taping. Meaning there aren't any quality--i.e. soundboard--tapes out there and only a few fair to middlin' audience recordings. Meaning a lot of prospective fans aren't experiencing the true Patty experience. Of course I'll always respect the artist's wishes.. but both myself and the soundman at Cat's Cradle talked about what "could-have-been" after witnessing that amazing show that wasn't preserved for future listens.) Anyway, I digress... But I thought you might like to see the setlist from the Cat's Cradle show in Carrboro, NC, since it sounds a LOT like the same setlist from The Birchmere. Don't know how much Patty is varying it up, but here's the honest-to-goodness CC setlist so everyone knows proper names and other good stuff. Those of you who don't like spoilers, stop reading now... - --rICH 1) Carry Me 2) Truth (AKA Truth #2) 3) Poor Man's House 4) Perfect White Girls 5) Mad Mission 6) Change 7) Florida 8) Be Careful 9) Flaming Red 10) Chief 11) Rain 12) Stolen Car 13) Top Of The World 14) Mary Encores: Sweet Loraine Tomorrow Night 10 Million Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:20:45 EDT From: FlamingRed74@cs.com Subject: MM: Whoo Wee!!! Patty played Nobody's Crying tonight!!!! I'll write a more in depth "review" at a later date.. but just had to let you all in on my joy in hearing this song live for the 1st time in a LONG time! Nobody's Crying, Nobody's Crying!!! Thank you Patty Jean! oh, and I got to meet Doug tonight, which was a very nice experience. Yes Tom, he IS the same Doug who was in the "Flaming Red" band. He is also the co-writer of one of my favorite Patty songs "Little God". I talked to him about guitar playing, how I think he compliments Patty so nicely as far as in the band, and the duo shows.. etc. He was very kind, and I think enjoyed the praise of someone who has listened to Patty for as long as I have. (I can hardly believe it's been 5 years now!.. LOL) We're ALL getting old, aren't we?!?! All in all 2 good shows (the Birchmere & Ram's Head), and I'll write more when it's not 6:18am & after I get some sleep. Dave Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:39:29 -0400 From: "Aimee ..." Subject: MM: Birchmere & Rams Head shows *sigh* Patty is my heroine. Two great shows in as many nights. I feel very lucky to have been a part of them. I won't go into detail about set lists, etc, as I think that may have been covered already. However I'll share my little observations. At the Birchmere I was front and center. The first thing that struck me when Patty came out was that she is just the ittiest bit of a person. Hard to believe that such a powerful voice comes out of her frame. She seemed very... humble I guess might be the word... that the crowd at the Birchmere was so attentive. You could have heard a pin drop, and the applause was so strong and nearly unending between songs. It must be rewarding for her to recieve such a response to songs that are brand-new, in addition to fan-favorites. She sold the venue out, put on a fantastic show for all 500+ people that were there, and added fuel to the fire of people wanting a new CD release from her. At the Rams Head I was sitting sort of stage right. Sitting further back let me hear more of the true "mix" of the sound. Again, a phenominal show. Played nearly the same set list, but I was able to enjoy it more, much like when you give a new CD that second spin, I was able to better appreciate the music and lyrics because I wasn't trying so hard to catch every word and every musical intracacy. All in all two great shows. I will mention however, that I saw at least two people taping at both shows. They are probably list members. I know there always will be division in the ranks of tapers/non-tapers, but I find it hard to understand when someone who considers themselves a fan tapes a show when they are expressly asked not to by the venue and knowing full well that the *artist* is Anti-taping. I would think that one would respect the artists wishes, especially if you hold her in such high esteem. Also, at the second show, I was seated next to some people who obviously considered themselves to be "true fans". However I found their behavior to be inappropriate, especially for a listening room venue. First they talked through the opening act, which is incredibly rude, and second, during Patty's performance they gave a running commentary to their table mates of "this is one of my favorites, or she played this last night, etc." They also insisted on shouting "PATTY GRIFFIN" after nearly every song, as though everyone seated in the room wasn't aware of the artist who was giving the show. It was boorish behavior for a listening room venue, and I know the audience around me didn't appreciate it, and I can don't think that Patty did either, though she was gracious and tried to talk over them. Not trying to start a riot, but just some observations I thought I'd share. - -Aimee _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:52:00 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Patty Setlist From Cat's Cradle Rachel, So you are saying she is VERY against LFML existing and being traded? Is it okay that we trade this? Mimi << she's VERY anti-taping. >> ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V5 #182 *********************************