From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V4 #290 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/pattyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, October 18 2000 Volume 04 : Number 290 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #288 [DLMSRM@aol.com] MM: Keswick ["Donald Henn" ] Re: MM: Keswick show, sort of a review.. [FlamingRed74@cs.com] Re: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #288 [FlamingRed74@cs.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:25:36 EDT From: DLMSRM@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #288 I was there for the wonderful performance of the great Patty Griffin at the Keswick. She looked terrific with her chic straight hair. That had to be evil Gary who yelled out"We're here to see you Patty." I didn't get to met any MMers there, but I would have felt funny turning around and asking where are the mad missioners. I was in the Pit in the 2nd row (How cool was that) I would really like to see Patty again as the headliner there. She seemed very grateful for all the applause and screaming. I do have a question if anyone could answer it. Why doesn't Patty ever play Every Little Bit in concert. As many times as I've seen her, people request it but she never plays it. Oh well guess I'll just go and play my LWG cd. Peace to all, Diane . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:18:21 -0400 From: "Donald Henn" Subject: MM: Keswick MMers , First things first. Emmylou is due apologies for my ridiculing her "love is like a stove" line. Apparently , the lyrics I looked up were those for the Nazareth version. Someone reminded me that Roy Orbison did "Love Hurts" , & I decided to take his CD with me. Roy's older version says "love is like a stove". I prefer flame , but don't think a writer's words should be changed. I felt real stupid sitting there when they started the song last night. That's what happens you run the mouth w/o putting the brain in gear. Sorry , Emmylou. Met up with old friends Karla , Dave & Darcie at the Keswick Tavern. Karla & I arrived first , & met Patty Shick from Pa , while we were waiting. Dave & Darcie managed to meet Patty outside the theater when they pulled up with "Nobody's Crying" blasting out of the car. Later , as Karla , Darcie & I were hanging out at the back of the theater(Karla knows everyone in the area , including the theater staff) , Darcie saw Patty going in with her phone to her ear. Then , Darcie got to meet another of her heroes , Buddy Miller. She talked to him for awhile & gave him one of her CDs. We also met Patty Blee from NJ & Tony at the tavern. Later , as Karla , Darcie , Dave & I were outside the theater , I suddenly felt a great sense of dread & foreboding. Some one came up to us & asked for Darcie. It was "The Evil One". I had to summon up all of my will power & courage to prevent the Evil from overpowering me & corrupting my innate goodness & purity of heart : ) (Aside to Gary , Emmylou spent the other half of the night looking at me , & in the end , chose Good over Evil). Set list: Racing in the Streets Poor Man's House Perfect White Girls Goodbye One More Girl Moses Making Pies Forgiveness Mary encore Sweet Lorraine Again , Patty's performance was at that level I'm come to expect from her. Every song was a treat. I looked for the lines that I thought were missing in Greensburg , & they were there , so I may have just missed them. "One More Girl" also had the lines that might attract the attention of the PC police , so the PWG thing is , hopefully, an isolated incident. That seemingly perfect tonal quality of Patty's voice stood out for me during the concert. Whether she was doing the "la la la" of PWG , or the "hey hey hey" of PMH , just listening to "The Voice" was preferable to any other artist out there. I've always been impressed with the way most musicians can subordinate their own talents when doing back-up for others. I especially noticed it on the cruise Patty performed on , when some of the musicians would jam after hours. Once some one would take the lead , the others would just fall into support mode , not competing for attention. When Patty was doing her own lines on "One Big Love" with Emmylou , I don't think I would have recognized her voice because it was so subdued. I'm not sure if Emmylou has the hang of that yet.While she did fine on the album cut , & she & Patty did some great harmony during the quieter passages of the live version of "Mary" , I think that Emmylou went too loud & too high during other parts , making it sound more like a competition than a song. That said , I have to praise Emmylou & her band for a great performance on their own. Substantially better than Greensburg. So much better , that I looked up her tour schedule to see if Greensburg was one of their first shows , but it was their 16th. I was amazed to find how familiar the music sounded after only hearing it once , so maybe it sunk in at a deeper level than I realized. In the Greensburg review , I mentioned "Bang the Drum Slowly" as being in Patty's league. I would say that a great deal of Sundays show was in Patty's league. Not enough to take the pennant from Patty , of course , but enough to put her in competition for 2nd with the other greats. Patty & Emmylou were almost as good as a Patty headliner. I even considered going to the next 3 shows & trying to get tickets from a scalper. I discovered since getting home , that Emmylou never wrote many of her songs until her new "Red Dirt Girl" album. She wrote everything on that , except for Patty's "One Big Love" . Maybe Patty has inspired her. She has a great voice , & it's my impression that she reaches the rafters even faster & higher than Patty. She also has that tinge of melencholia in her voice that makes Patty's so appealing. I know that this & my Greensburg review are waay too short , but I have a life , you know : ) Next up; Oberlin. My friend , my friend , you are traveling So many secrets are unraveling Some other picture's coming into view Patty Griffin "We Are Water" Don ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:50:46 EDT From: FlamingRed74@cs.com Subject: Re: MM: Keswick show, sort of a review.. Hello Everyone! Well.. well well.. it's funny how when you don't hear Patty's voice for such a long time that it hits you with ALMOST the same potency that it does the first time you ever heard it.. Sunday night's show was my first Patty show in 6 months (a new world record for me), and from the first verse of Racing In the Streets it became quite apparent that I shouldn't allow such a lapse in Patty shows to happen again. I had tears in my eyes just from the sheer beauty of FINALLY hearing her voice again! There is just no other feeling in the world to me than to see Patty on stage looking so lovely, with her glorious voice filling whatever venue it is in which she's playing. Unfortunately I didn't get to hear the Superman song that I had wanted to hear, in fact I didn't get to hear anything I wasn't already familiar with.. but that's ok b/c just seeing and hearing her again was probably all my senses could handle.. LOL One More Girl was incredible! When she went to do her encore, she put the capo WAY down where she puts it for Top of the World (quite possibly my very favorite Patty song), but then moved it back up to the 3rd fret which means Sweet Lorraine is coming. Sweet Lorraine is in my opinion Patty's most consistently strong song. With as many Patty shows as I've been to, I can't ever recall her doing a so-so version of that song. So if she had to choose to play a song other than Top Of the World, I guess Sweet Lorraine was one of the few that made me be not so disappointed. She's said before at shows that Sweet Lorraine is "a true song about noone in particular". I wonder if her obvious strong bond to that song is b/c it is at least loosely based on herself as a child? I know that has been discussed here before, but the more I hear it the more I think it's true. On a personal note here just to make you realize how strong Patty's show was to me. I've been pretty busy over the summer, and some things have happened that have made me pretty numb to most everything surrounding me. More often than not over the last few months I've just been tired and really had no passion for life whatsoever. I figured it was just a phase, or b/c I was having a crappy summer. When I was actually crying almost the very instant I heard Patty's voice I realized that that one moment was probably the most passionate moment I've had in a long time.. or at least the most I've been in touch with my feelings. I know that may sound weird, but I think it took that power and emotion inside of Patty's voice to make me feel something again. I have listened to Patty very VERY little over the summer.. I think b/c I just wasn't associating with the passion on her music. Since I was feeling numb, the music wasn't grabbing ahold of me like it always had before. To me, music is all about feelings and emotions. Patty can make me feel things inside of myself that noone else has ever come close to doing. I thought Emmylou was also a great singer, but when Patty was done I just couldn't get into Emmylou's set. She had a great live voice, and her band was outstanding (Especially Buddy Miller!).. but she almost seems cold and dispassionate when she is singing. I don't mean to single her out, because it could just be my take on her.. and god knows there are LOTS of dispassionate singers out there. But anyway.. I wish there was some way to thank Patty for such a fantastic evening Sunday night... and for bringing all those feelings out from inside of me again! Go Patty G! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:01:41 EDT From: FlamingRed74@cs.com Subject: Re: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #288 Hey Diane, I'm really glad you enjoyed the show so much! I was about 10th row and dead center stage so we were not TOO far apart. As far as Patty not playing Every Little Bit anymore.. Patty's songs are made special by the passion she puts into them. I think she knows that.. and I've heard her say alot of times to people when they'll request a song that she doesn't feel close to that song anymore.. or she even forgets how to play that one. I've even heard her say that when she wrote a particular song that it was in a different lifetime for her, so she can't relate to it anymore. I think she knows that the song would suffer if she just did a half-hearted version of the it, and if she's not feeling it anymore she won't play it. I don't know for sure, but I would bet she's made the exception here or there, but I haven't heard of her doing Every LIttle Bit for quite a long time now. It's a shame, b/c it really IS a great song.. in her case it's OK though b/c there are 60 other amazing songs to take its place. Patty G Rocks! Dave ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V4 #290 *********************************