From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V4 #250 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/pattyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Friday, September 1 2000 Volume 04 : Number 250 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: RE: adding to the detroit bitch session (NPC) [Gary Jacques ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:05:16 -0400 From: Gary Jacques Subject: MM: RE: adding to the detroit bitch session (NPC) Paul..www.xpn.org 88.5 Online. Out of the U. of Penn. Not students running the show thought. Some of the most knowledgeable people broadcasting today. IMHO. Commercial free, listener sponsored music. Please take time to try this out. I think you will be very happy! You don't have to be tied down to your hometown crap! If this is not the best radio station you ever heard, I'm not Evil Gary. The Evil One - -----Original Message----- From: Paul Russell [mailto:iceburrrg@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:11 PM To: mad-mission@smoe.org Subject: MM: adding to the detroit bitch session (NPC) Yeah. that sucks total ass, and I mean that in a bad way. Like take where I live for instance. There isn't a single rap station. Well, there's 93.3 (the beat of the bay) if you STRETCH it, but it's mostly slow jams or the same top 40 rap all the freakin time. Boring. It drives me insane. 104.1 was this bad country/athletic sport of the month station, then changed to a total kick ass rap station, and BAM...it's another freakin top 40 mainstream. Yawn. Plus, we had Island 105 for a while with Club La Villa in Panama City. They rocked tits. My drive home at night was always filled with some steady beat techno mix. That is, until the Club La Villa owners got busted and their nightclub shut down. Even top 40 isn't incredibly bad or anything, but there are very few songs I want to hear over and over and over....especially with those "hi-I'm-a Deejay-talking-constantly-because-I-don't-have-anything-really-cool-to-t alk-about-so-we're-going-to-play-this-next-song-that-you-heard-ten-minut es-ago-and-I'll-talk-over-the-beginning-only-right-here-on-all-new-hot-b lah-blah-blah-blah." Slam. But I don't mind listening to Brit or Rick. They have good voices and good songs....hell, I don't mind drinking Budweiser beer either, but too much of both will make me hurl. Just don't expect me to go to one of those teeny-screaming concerts. I'll just jab my eyes out with knitting needles first and get myself used to the pain. Never-the-less, it still is sad that the COOL stations are dwindling. Of course I wouldn't know it since there aren't any cool stations here. One new station in my area has potential. They've been playing great metal...better than the other ones that use the metal facade. Hello, there ARE other metal bands than Metallica (God Bless Lars). Whatever happened to cool college stations that played whatever? I miss Bo Bear (a deejay that would play "puff the magic dragon" because he felt like it) and Rugratt (taking all the metal requests from the 80s and 90s). There's certainly none of that here on the bible belt buckle. The college radio station around here is NPR affiliated. And while I'm glad there's classical (you know the violin music) and an occasional "accoustical interlude" show, there's really no alternative time. "Thistle and Shamrock," "Hearts of Space," "Echos," "Performance Today," are fantastic programs. But I haven't heard Velvet Cactus Society in years....and THAT sucks pronto. I wish there was another college radio station. Yes. I want some cheese with my whine, please. A bit of Norwegian Beaver Cheese, perhaps. Back to work, school, and all that other real world crap. hit me baby one more time. paul ************************************** * If my wife's watching, I'll be * * home after the meeting and I hope * * the furniture is put back where * * I like it..........behind the * * store window! * * --Red Green * * * ************************************** ________________________________________________________________________ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:45:23 EDT From: "Sarah Stanley" Subject: Re: MM: adding to the detroit bitch session (NPC) Paul, can I just say...you are too cool. :) You put everything into perspective. The Brit/Rick and Budweiser rationale...HAHA. exactly. I too find myself tolerating (even enjoying at times) the bubble-gum pop of the Britney/Christina's. I even went to a damn concert of Britney's! hahaha....only because my friend had a free FRONT ROW ticket and it was actually a lot of fun! :) But I digress... I agree with you, Paul. I am able to enjoy ALL kinds of music - some more than others...but at least we USED TO be able to pick and choose from all those different kinds of music. Now, it's like we have no choice any more....we get what "they" give us. (sniff, i SO wish we had a techno/electronica station around here...) Thank Goddess for cd players in cars!!! :) I'm a genie in a bottle in Detroit, Sarah >From: "Paul Russell" >To: mad-mission@smoe.org >Subject: MM: adding to the detroit bitch session (NPC) >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:11:20 GMT > >Yeah. > >that sucks total ass, and I mean that in a bad way. > >Like take where I live for instance. There isn't a single rap station. >Well, >there's 93.3 (the beat of the bay) if you STRETCH it, but it's mostly slow >jams or the same top 40 rap all the freakin time. Boring. It drives me >insane. 104.1 was this bad country/athletic sport of the month station, >then >changed to a total kick ass rap station, and BAM...it's another freakin top >40 mainstream. Yawn. > >Plus, we had Island 105 for a while with Club La Villa in Panama City. They >rocked tits. My drive home at night was always filled with some steady beat >techno mix. That is, until the Club La Villa owners got busted and their >nightclub shut down. > >Even top 40 isn't incredibly bad or anything, but there are very few songs >I >want to hear over and over and over....especially with those "hi-I'm-a >Deejay-talking-constantly-because-I-don't-have-anything-really-cool-to-talk-about-so-we're-going-to-play-this-next-song-that-you-heard-ten-minutes-ago-and-I'll-talk-over-the-beginning-only-right-here-on-all-new-hot-blah-blah-blah-blah." >Slam. But I don't mind listening to Brit or Rick. They have good voices and >good songs....hell, I don't mind drinking Budweiser beer either, but too >much of both will make me hurl. Just don't expect me to go to one of those >teeny-screaming concerts. I'll just jab my eyes out with knitting needles >first and get myself used to the pain. > >Never-the-less, it still is sad that the COOL stations are dwindling. Of >course I wouldn't know it since there aren't any cool stations here. One >new >station in my area has potential. They've been playing great metal...better >than the other ones that use the metal facade. Hello, there ARE other metal >bands than Metallica (God Bless Lars). > >Whatever happened to cool college stations that played whatever? I miss Bo >Bear (a deejay that would play "puff the magic dragon" because he felt like >it) and Rugratt (taking all the metal requests from the 80s and 90s). >There's certainly none of that here on the bible belt buckle. > >The college radio station around here is NPR affiliated. And while I'm glad >there's classical (you know the violin music) and an occasional >"accoustical >interlude" show, there's really no alternative time. "Thistle and >Shamrock," >"Hearts of Space," "Echos," "Performance Today," are fantastic programs. >But >I haven't heard Velvet Cactus Society in years....and THAT sucks pronto. I >wish there was another college radio station. > >Yes. I want some cheese with my whine, please. A bit of Norwegian Beaver >Cheese, perhaps. Back to work, school, and all that other real world crap. > >hit me baby one more time. > >paul > > >************************************** >* If my wife's watching, I'll be * >* home after the meeting and I hope * >* the furniture is put back where * >* I like it..........behind the * >* store window! * >* --Red Green * >* * >************************************** > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:47:05 EDT From: MistyBC@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: New mp3 - Detroit mishers - I need your he lp! Hi everyone... It most certainly has been quiet around here! I'm not complaining... since my modem got fried in a thunderstorm (go figure!), and I was Internet-less for 3 weeks. I'm downloading the new MP3 as I type this (Thanks Jen, you rock!). I didn't see it, but my mom told me that the Patty/Emmylou/Dave/Buddy/Julie Austin City Limits was rerun this past weekend. Jen wrote: >I have been out of the Detroit area for >the summer because I was living up at the lake house. I get back and am >very eager to listen to my favorite radio station: 93.9 The River - the >only >metro-detroit station to ever play Patty Griffin! Well I flip to the >station and to my horror, guess what I hear? "Upside inside out, Livin' >la >vida loca!" I spent a week in Cleveland, OH this summer visiting a friend and I think I heard this "River" station! It didn't always pick up that well, but I'm pretty sure that's what we were listening to. My friend is more of a "rock" person than I am... But we were amazed that this station played to both of our tastes! After every song, I was more and more amazed... It was like a jukebox playing my CD collection, or the CD collection I wish I owned. :) So, I'm sad that it's gone now... I don't know what I'd do without my Lightning 100 and The Phoenix. I'm seeing Dar, too! Yippee. I will have seen her four times before this year is over. I'm seeing her in Chicago (Sept) and Atlanta (Nov)... Her new album is beautiful. Smiles, Misty, who found a former mad-missioner living in her same dorm!!!!! What a small world! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:02:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa C Subject: Re: MM: adding to the detroit bitch session (RANT - NPC) I'm sorry, but I must dissent slightly - not that Paul isn't cool, of course. For the most part I agree that our on-air choices are not all bad, but certainly dwindling. But there is bad, bad stuff selling millions of records. Not all of it, mind you. One need only listen to the Fountains of Wayne or Travis version of "Baby, One More Time" to understand that it really IS a very good pop song. But LFO? Burger King selling special CDS? I'm sorry, but if I "had it my way," I'd take my pop music WITHOUT product placement, thank you very much. Then there are the banal lyrics and recycled melodies that get played and played for hit after hit without a hint of originality. The trouble here is that the less new and interesting stuff we hear, the less we come to expect. If we hear 5 singles off one Matchbox 20 album, surely one more *must* be a hit. Never mind that I have a hard time with folks making millions(!) off songs they didn't write - I know it's happened forever, and rock and roll has been done that way since the beginning. But today it seems very sterile to me; are we to pretend that the Beatles and punk rock never happened? Did Kurt Cobain die THAT long ago? And don't even get me started about the implications for young girls of Britney's "confidence." (read: t&a) I love a great pop song as much as the next person, but the little kids are buying the image, even before the tunes. (eight year old kids, dude) I'm sorry, I'll stop my rant now. I just can't pretend that it doesn't really anger me that corporate pop (I can't even say "rock") rules almost entirely right now. By the way, Gary, thanks for the xpn rec - someone else on another list mentioned it today, too. hope i didn't offend anyone too bad; feel free to let me know. Lisa C - --- Sarah Stanley wrote: > Paul, can I just say...you are too cool. :) You > put everything into > perspective. The Brit/Rick and Budweiser > rationale...HAHA. exactly. I too > find myself tolerating (even enjoying at times) the > bubble-gum pop of the > Britney/Christina's. I even went to a damn concert > of Britney's! > hahaha....only because my friend had a free FRONT > ROW ticket and it was > actually a lot of fun! :) But I digress... > I agree with you, Paul. I am able to enjoy ALL > kinds of music - some more > than others...but at least we USED TO be able to > pick and choose from all > those different kinds of music. Now, it's like we > have no choice any > more....we get what "they" give us. (sniff, i SO > wish we had a > techno/electronica station around here...) > > Thank Goddess for cd players in cars!!! :) > > I'm a genie in a bottle in Detroit, > Sarah > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:49:13 EDT From: JQLucky@aol.com Subject: MM: radio bitch session first, i saw part of the rerun of patty on austin city limits last week-end. only wished they'd let patty sing more. second, i've been reading all the email about the dislike for losing your favorite radio stations. and i think i'll print them off for my bosses and forward them to a few ex-bosses. i have been in radio for 11 years now... and i've seen the industry go from a fun, loose, creative field to a corporate, structured, cookie-cutter mess. a few years ago, the FCC allowed for the deregulation of radio stations. since then some HUGE companies have come in and bought up almost every station they can buy. some of the biggies, use the same formula for stations across the country. i have worked at too many stations, where i tried to convince my bosses to play patty... but for some DUMB reason, they NEVER would. its like they won't even open their ears to someone they don't know. but i continue to tell them about "good music" anyway. i agree with julie... the best thing to do is complain. you might not get thru to the PD or GM, but you can always leave a message on their voice mail. although they probably won't switch back... i have seen where other stations in the market will react to the change. so if there's an alternative station in the market... call them too and let them know what you think too. good luck!! jacqui ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:00:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Sumer Lucien Subject: MM: Ann Arbor CD Tree Thanks Hi All, Just wanted to say that I got my CDs yesterday. Thanks to Dana for organizing and all branches for working on it. Until a few months ago I had never met anyone who even knew who Patty was. And then, I find this list with all the wonderful information I'd been looking for. Thanks to you guys, I finally got to go see her in San Francisco and I've got two brand-new CDs to tide me over 'til January. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And now I will fall back into silent observation mode. _____________________________________________________________ Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V4 #250 *********************************