From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V4 #157 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/patttyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, June 5 2000 Volume 04 : Number 157 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Afterward [NeuroticView@aol.com] RE: MM: RE: Recomendations for Lisa (and anyone else) ["Judy Lev" ] MM: My Picks, for Lisa [NeuroticView@aol.com] Re: MM: Speaking of Age.... [MistyBC@aol.com] MM: Recommendations for Lisa [L & C Israelson ] MM: Re: Speaking of Age.... ["Eryn Fleming" ] Re: MM: Speaking of Age.... [Songbird22@aol.com] Re: MM: Speaking of Age.... [Songbird22@aol.com] MM: Re: Speaking of Age.... ["Eryn Fleming" ] Re: MM: NPC Speaking of Age.... ["Gary Jacques" ] Re: MM: RE: Recomendations for Lisa (and anyone else) [SteveM712@aol.com] Re: MM: RE: Recomendations for Lisa (and anyone else) ["Aubrey Louise Mor] MM: recommendations for lisa [Mike Acerbo ] Re: MM: Speaking of Age.... ["Corey Atkins" ] MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #156 ["Justine L" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:54:01 EDT From: NeuroticView@aol.com Subject: MM: Afterward I wrote down my 5 on a list, and send the email out. When I was finished I took a look at each of everyone else's choices. I agree w/ the Aimme Mann, Lucinda Williams, Indigo Girls, Joni Mitchell, Ani Difranco, I basically agree with every cd that each person had a pick of. >smile< I must say though, in listing 'the Story' and Jonatha Brooks... i noticed Jennifer Kimball was left out. She worked as a member of the Story along w/ Jonatha Brooks and has helped to write songs w/ the likes of Patty Larkin and Kim Richey, where she can also be found singing backgroud. 'Veering From The Wave', Jennifer Kimball. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:05:44 -0500 From: "Judy Lev" Subject: RE: MM: RE: Recomendations for Lisa (and anyone else) If youre gonna pick an Ani album, I say Puddle Dive. It's like the puberty, woman, confidence, comfort album. Also, definitely Dar Williams. Either Honesty Room or Mortal City Judy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:31:26 GMT From: "That Loud Girl" Subject: MM: RE: Recomendations More than ten, in no particular order (and ommitting LWG, which would be on here, but I wanted to come up with some non-Patty ones): Indigo Girls: Rites of Passage Carrie Newcomer: The Bird or the Wing Rose Polenzani: Anybody Ani Difranco: Dilate (or Up Up Up Up Up Up) Lori McKenna: Paper Wings and Halo Cowboy Junkies: Pale Sun Crescent Moon Beth Orton: Central Reservation Bob Dylan: Blood on the Tracks Michelle Malone: New Experience (or Homegrown) Barbara Kessler: Notion Shawn Colvin: Steady On Cat Power: Moon Pix Joy Harjo and Poetic Justice: Letter from the End of the 20th Century Tori Amos: Little Earthquakes Suzanne Vega: Solitude Standing I'm sure there's more...that's off the tope of my head. Take care, Shel ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:45:04 EDT From: NeuroticView@aol.com Subject: MM: My Picks, for Lisa A great idea, I must say. I would love to receive such a gift. Five female singer/songwriters who I find to be necessary for any collection... Janis Ian, (her newest) God and the FBI, or Between The Lines Dar Williams, The Honesty Room Dayna Manning, Volume 1 Carol King, Tapestry Suzanne Vega, Solutitude Standing of course, I only left out 'Living With Ghost' for I assume you already are aware of this one. >smile< Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:59:48 EDT From: MistyBC@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Speaking of Age.... Any Dar Williams album will do. "Mortal City" or "The Honesty Room" probably fits the theme best. One person that no one has mentioned is Tara Maclean. Both of her albums are wonderful. Joni Mitchell, Laura Nyro & Ella Fitzgerald are great choices. Good luck picking just 5! Your sister is lucky to have such thought put into her gift. :) - -Misty, who just turned 20 last week. P.S. Thanks for the MP3s, Jen! I can't wait to hear the new ones! If you all have not heard the songs she has uploaded--you are missing out! Even if it means you have to download an MP3 player just for that specific reason... It's worth it. I *love* Patty's version of "Crazy"... Aaaaah! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 16:15:39 -0700 From: L & C Israelson Subject: MM: Recommendations for Lisa Taking courage from Dave's willingness to chime in with his suggestions (although with a wife and two teen-aged daughters I've certainly spent A LOT of time contemplating how women think and feel)... Anyway, realizing that I may not know what the hell I'm talking about, I'd like to add one heretofore unmentioned CD to the worthy list of Patty, Dar Williams, Tracy Chapman, Indigo Girls, etc. Since Lisa's sister is a classical/opera fan, she might very well appreciate the vocals and use of strings on Sinead O'Connor's "I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got." Although some find Sinead too much a "victim" on this album, which would be contrary to the intent of Lisa' gift, I believe this to be one of the most haunting and beautiful recordings ever made. Perhaps it could serve as a cautionary counterpoint to the more optimistic works that are likely to be on Lisa's list? Larry I in LA Lisa Number Nine wrote: > I could use some help... > My sister is 18 and just graduated high school. She's > into classical music and opera, and is a little slow > in the folk/rock genre(s). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:20:49 -0400 From: "Eryn Fleming" Subject: MM: Re: Speaking of Age.... Hi Lisa. I've got a few suggestions for you. Here are some albums that inspired me. 1~I've gotta go with Becca's suggestion with Cyndi Lauper. Cyndi Lauper was my first obsession in life. I used to listen to "She's So Unusual" everyday and sing along. 2~Sarah McLachlan "Fumbling Towards Ecstasy" (Of course!) 3~Sheryl Crow "The Globe Sessions" 4~Joni Mitchell "Ladies of the Canyon" (I recommend any Joni Mitchell album. I LOVE HER!) 5~Judy Collins "Forever-An Anthology" 6~Melanie "Gather Me" 7~Ani DiFranco "Little Plastic Castle" 8~Jewel "Pieces of You" 9~Fiona Apple "Tidal" 10~Alison Krauss "Now That I've Found You-A Collection" I could go on forever, but I won't let myself! I hope this helps you a little, and have fun putting albums together. Tell your sister not to forget about classical music though!! I am a big fan of it also. Good luck, ~eRyN - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Number Nine" To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: MM: Speaking of Age.... > ....I could use some help... > > My sister is 18 and just graduated high school. She's > into classical music and opera, and is a little slow > in the folk/rock genre(s). In my continuing attempt > to be the coolest older sister (at 25) in the world, > I'm thinking of setting her up a set of five essential > recordings by women as a graduation gift. > > These albums should not necessarily be obvious choices > in terms of popularity. Here's what I'm getting at: > I think it's terrific that there are people at 16 > already into Patty, I'm thinking about things she > probably wouldn't know about unless someone said "hey, > this is cool, you'll love it," and "it will affect the > way you think and feel about things." In this case, I > especially want to affect the way she thinks and feels > about being a woman. > > I'm curious as to what anyone in this forum would put > in this category. I have my list drafted, but before > I post it, and before I finalize it, I'd love to open > a discussion here. > > OK. Lisa > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:21:19 EDT From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Speaking of Age.... In a message dated 6/5/00 3:51:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lisanumbernine@yahoo.com writes: > I'm curious as to what anyone in this forum would put > in this category. I have my list drafted, but before > I post it, and before I finalize it, I'd love to open > a discussion here. Well... 5 albums that got me through the college years ;) Flaming Red - Patty Griffin Fumbling Towards Ecstasy - Sarah McLachlan Dilate - Ani Difranco Silence - Tara MacLean Emm Gryner - The Original Leap Year Jessica www.jessicaweiser.com | mp3.com/jessweiser ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:25:44 EDT From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Speaking of Age.... In a message dated 6/5/00 7:12:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MistyBC@aol.com writes: > fits the theme best. One person that no one has mentioned is Tara Maclean. >Both of her albums are wonderful. Joni Mitchell, Laura Nyro & Ella Tara is someone I know well. :) And her first album got me through some hard stuff. Her new one is now out on Capital and is doing pretty well ... Definitely check her out live, though, because she's better live than on any record. She's an amazing person as well, very inspirational and nice and cool. :) Jess www.jessicaweiser.com | mp3.com/jessweiser ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:26:36 -0400 From: "Eryn Fleming" Subject: MM: Re: Speaking of Age.... I almost forgot Tori Amos. The first album I ever heard by Tori was "Boys for Pele". My favorite is "Little Earthquakes", but really any album would do. And I left out "Living With Ghosts", but I'm sure you've already thought of that. Thanks again, ~eRyN - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Number Nine" To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: MM: Speaking of Age.... > ....I could use some help... > > My sister is 18 and just graduated high school. She's > into classical music and opera, and is a little slow > in the folk/rock genre(s). In my continuing attempt > to be the coolest older sister (at 25) in the world, > I'm thinking of setting her up a set of five essential > recordings by women as a graduation gift. > > These albums should not necessarily be obvious choices > in terms of popularity. Here's what I'm getting at: > I think it's terrific that there are people at 16 > already into Patty, I'm thinking about things she > probably wouldn't know about unless someone said "hey, > this is cool, you'll love it," and "it will affect the > way you think and feel about things." In this case, I > especially want to affect the way she thinks and feels > about being a woman. > > I'm curious as to what anyone in this forum would put > in this category. I have my list drafted, but before > I post it, and before I finalize it, I'd love to open > a discussion here. > > OK. Lisa > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:06:44 -0400 From: "Gary Jacques" Subject: Re: MM: NPC Speaking of Age.... Thank God someone said Joni..best female singer songwriter of all time!EOM - ----- Original Message ----- From: elena To: ; Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 4:29 PM Subject: RE: MM: NPC Speaking of Age.... > Howabout... Joni Mitchell's 'Blue'? > > That's an album that totally blew my mind. > > Other possibilities: > > Lucinda Williams - Self Titled > Indigo Girls - Strange Fire > Dar Williams - The Honesty Room > Ani DiFranco - Dilate or Not a Pretty Girl (just about any Ani album will > do, really) :) > > My .02¢ > > --Elena > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mad-mission@smoe.org [mailto:owner-mad-mission@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of Scubagrrl@aol.com > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 12:59 PM > To: mad-mission@smoe.org > Subject: Re: MM: NPC Speaking of Age.... > > > Lisa, > What a great gift for your sister's graduation! You are no doubt the > coolest > older sister for having thought of it! > My recommendation would be Cyndi Lauper's Sisters of Avalon. Cyndi is > certainly mainstream on some levels and your sister is probably too young to > remember "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" but this recording is really a > representation of some amazing work. And the title track is this strong > drum > beat powered anthem for women, in a very anti-Spice Girl kind of way. > I would strongly urge anyone to listen to this album. Each song is > complimentary to the next, while being completely different and offering a > new emotional level. And Cyndi's voice is totally breathtaking. I bought > this CD after seeing her live and it does her justice. > I'll be interested to see your drafted list... > Becca > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:22:53 EDT From: SteveM712@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: RE: Recomendations for Lisa (and anyone else) Just have to add my voice to those suggesting Jonatha Brooke...one of the most talented singer/songwriters around. Watch for her new CD this summer/fall--I've heard some of the tunes live and they're amazing. www.jonathabrooke.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:29:16 -0700 From: "Aubrey Louise Morrison" Subject: Re: MM: RE: Recomendations for Lisa (and anyone else) Okay now i have to add my two cents worth!!! My picks would be: 1) BETH ORTON-CENTRAL RESERVATION!!!!!!!!!! and/or Trailer Park...both are simply amazing to say the least..Is anyone else out there a Beth Orton fan?? 2) Indigo Girls-1200 Curfews (the live double cd) 3) Natalie Merchant- Ophelia 4) Joni Mitchell- Blue 5) Tori Amos- Little Earthquakes or Boys for Pele 6) Sarah McLachlan- Fumbling Towards Ecstasy 7) Abra Moore-Sing and of course Patty Griffin would HAVE to be added to this list...which album is everyone's favorite?? I'd have to say that Living With Ghosts is my personal favorite. - -Aubrey I must also reccomend Dayna Manning and Tara MacLean...both are AMAZING..especially live!!!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: Re: MM: RE: Recomendations for Lisa (and anyone else) > Just have to add my voice to those suggesting Jonatha Brooke...one of the > most talented singer/songwriters around. Watch for her new CD this > summer/fall--I've heard some of the tunes live and they're amazing. > www.jonathabrooke.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:28:16 -0800 From: Mike Acerbo Subject: MM: recommendations for lisa Here are a bunch of records that totally influenced my own songwriting... Joni Mitchell -Ladies of The Canyon Patty Griffin -Living With Ghosts Kate Bush -The Hounds of Love Stevie Nicks -Bella Donna Loreena Mckennit-The Mask and The Mirror Maria Mckee -Maria Mckee 10,000 Maniacs -Our Time in Eden Aimee Mann -Whatever Tori Amos -Little Earthquakes I LOVE ALL OF THESE ALBUMS and probably have listened to them thousands of times. Great voices, great songwriters ect... Hope this helps. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 19:10:05 MDT From: "Corey Atkins" Subject: Re: MM: Speaking of Age.... Lisa- What a great idea. You're obviously a very caring, and I'd say 'cool', sister! Here's my two cents: 1. You gotta have some Janis Joplin in there. Her whole philosophy about being herself and creating herself is very important, I think, to youth of today (as long as they go easy on the Southern Comfort...) 2. There is a CD called '4 by 4' with 4 songs each by Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, ...ahhh...the other two equally brilliant ladies of jazz escape me...but I'd say that's a good one 3.If you want to give her some good folk rock, aside from Patty, I'd HIGHLY recommend Shawn Colvin. Any CD is brilliant, but for a first CD, "Steady On" is sheer brilliance. 4. I also think that Paula Cole is a modern woman with very strong opinions which come across in her music. It's also fascinating to see the artistic change among her 3 discs. "Harbinger" is sort of the introvert, more fragile Pauls Cole, "This Fire" is pure 'I am woman hear me roar and scream and tell you just what I think' - also an excellent disc. Her latest, "Amen" has a spiritual theme and feeling - no religion, just sp[irituality and peace in general. All excellent. 5. "Tapestry", by Carol King, is still a great album, regardless of the time it was written - it defies era... So I guess that'd be my list...of course there are so many other amazing women - Annie Lennox, Aretha Franklin, Fiona Apple, Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks, Patti Smith.... good luck! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 18:10:16 PDT From: "Justine L" Subject: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #156 What incredible suggestions to Lisa!! I agree with nearly all of them.. well I agree with all of the music that I've heard that has been suggested. This is my first post I think, I'd like to recommend one more CD that has completely inspired/changed the way I listen to music. Although I have a feeling it will be hard for Lisa to find Under Feet Like Ours - Tegan and Sara T&S are 19 yrs old (If i'm correct.. they might be a year older than that) Anyway they're from Canada and independently produced their album.. greatly influenced by Ani, they're absolutely incredible. Thanks. Justine ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V4 #157 *********************************