From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V4 #132 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.quackquack.net/patttyg * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V4 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, May 8 2000 Volume 04 : Number 132 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Austin City NO-Limits [JessBartn@aol.com] MM: Re: Austin City NO-Limits ["*~Sarah~*" ] MM: Paul's a bulldog! [Cdqn37@aol.com] MM: Dissention [AloanStar@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=F1e_Pugh?=)] [none] [Darren Holmquist ] [none] [Darren Holmquist ] Re: MM: Dissention [UMCaner74@aol.com] Re: MM: Austin City NO-Limits [Remy457@aol.com] MM: NPC: open a show [runrunrun@dellmail.com] MM: NPC: open a show [runrunrun@dellmail.com] MM: Opening Acts ["Greg Pendleton" ] MM: NPC: need music help!!!!! ["Judy Lev" ] Re: MM: Opening Acts [Steve Garrison ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 01:46:58 EDT From: JessBartn@aol.com Subject: MM: Austin City NO-Limits Hi guys, just a quick note about Patty on Austin City Limits.... She looked and sounded beautiful...so much more relaxed than her other TV appearances. What a show with Julie and Buddy miller, Emmylou Harris, and Dave Matthews (who was awesome all adorned in his acoustic sound, whoa, I was totally impressed) Patty did Top of the World and Mary, as well as back up to I still cry and one other I belive. It was one of the best Austin City Limits I've ever seen, if you didn't see it, GET A TAPE! Incredible, really, my arms had goosebumps through the whole thing, I was lit up! Peace, Jess ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 05:57:03 -0400 From: "*~Sarah~*" Subject: MM: Re: Austin City NO-Limits > She looked and sounded beautiful...so much more relaxed than her other TV > appearances. definitely!! much more charismatic than i've seen her before... *sigh* ARGH - i'm so pissed though, i had just gotten in (a lot later than i expected) around 5, TOTALLY forgetting it was on and sunday was NOW. so it was about 5:15 when i realized and ran to the tv and started taping. I missed the first two songs and came in about half way thru Top of the World. I'm so mad...i mean, two and a half songs isn't that bad....but i wanted the WHOLE thing. oh well, at least i got all of patty's stuff... > Dave Matthews (who was awesome all adorned in his acoustic sound, whoa, I was > totally impressed) I KNOW!!! he's so great....i've seen DMB twice, one of the times in Nashville, TN!! But to hear him acoustic now too with Emmylou singing harmonies with him! SIGH..... he looked so excited and nervous at times too! :) hee hee > Patty did Top of the World and Mary, as well as back up to I still cry and > one other I belive. Mary was just ab-so-lute-ly amazing!!!!! :) I love the harmony.... Man, how come Detroit doesn't put on these cool performances to air on tv? haha... Detroit City Limits.....haha, no one would watch.... eep! :) Sarah - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "'Riot Poof' is for all those jocks out there who need to deal with their secret sexuality." - -Tori Amos - -Pulse!, 11/99 "I don't believe there is such a thing as saying too much....no no...there are those who like to look and those who ain't afraid to touch...." -- Patty Griffin "I want to be a hunter again...I want to see the world alone again. To take a chance on life again.....so let me go...." --Dido ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 07:51:50 EDT From: Cdqn37@aol.com Subject: MM: Paul's a bulldog! Paul's a bulldog is all I have to say. That, and it is good to see the Evil One posting again. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 10:21:07 -0400 (EDT) From: AloanStar@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=F1e_Pugh?=) Subject: MM: Dissention The first time I saw Patty live was in a large arena she opened for Shawn Colvin, but she was only able to perform about 5 songs, because Freedy Johnston was also scheduled and they played forever (or it seemed like forever since I had mainly been there to see Patty). It wasn't a good blend of artists, because Freedy's music just didn't fit between Patty and Shawn...not that their music was terrible, but it definitely clashed....plus took time away from Patty'smusic. Patty wasn't very well known at the time, so many people stayed in the lobby or arrived late as many people do when they aren't really into music or care to see anyone who isn't already "big". It seems like if they don't know the words to all the songs, then why be there for the openers. I wasn't one of the people in the lobby. I was sitting there lingering over every word Patty sang, but I already had LWG and was a diehard fan from first listen. I am really glad I DID listen closely, because although she seemed shy and talked very little, if any between her 5 songs, she announced that she was playing in the area again in about 2 weeks at a very small venue and she was headlining. That turned out to be my greatest Patty experience, because not only was the venue small, but only about 25 people showed up to see her. It was a magic night that I will always remember. I'm sure it was disappointing for her that only 25 people showed up, but which is worse, to play for 25 who are there just to see you or to play to large arena of pretty much empty seats, because everyone who helped sell out the venue isn't coming to see you and didn't bother to come in time to at least see what you can do? I hope Patty doesn't have that same experience opening for the Dixie Chicks....and I wonder how many of the mindsets attending will be open to listening to the magic that IS Patty? I think it's a great opportunity for Patty to show what she's got, but I'm also afraid that she won't be shown the appreciation that she deserves because the people there might be in such a rush to have the DC's hurry up and come out. Hopefully she will gain a larger audience, sell millions of cd's and headline large arena's next year filled with hordes of people who came to pay homage to her magic. You never know. I wish her good luck either way and I will still be listening and watching. Later..... Jeanñe (and it was Judy Perlman who came up with the M & M's idea for the Session's taping) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 10:18:52 -0700 From: Darren Holmquist Subject: [none] set digest ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 11:10:52 -0700 From: Darren Holmquist Subject: [none] Sorry for that.... I was in too much of a hurry. Peace, Darren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:01:05 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Dissention Hey guys, Since I have yet to throw in my 2 cents in on this subject yet, I figured I would take this opportunity to do so.. As thrilling as it may seem to me to see Patty playing a large stadium, I don't know that I'll be attending THIS Patty concert. The first time I ever saw Patty was over 3 years ago in about a 1,200 seat venue near here (but I was front row)!. She was opening for the most adored local band here, and it was their first show in the area after being on tour nationally for quite awhile. The crowd was SO psyched, much like the crowd will be for her tour this summer. Not really the best atmosphere to make new fans, when all they can do is count down the minutes until their heros his the stage ... I had never heard of her before, and really didn't care at all who the opener was. I COULD NOT wait for the Badlees to appear. After one verse of Moses though, my feelings on the opener changed somewhat.. :-) For Patty's entire performance, I would say about 5 or 10 people in the crowd actually paid attention. I went to see that local band (The Badlees) 3 more times within the next few weeks with the sole purpose of checking out this amazing woman before she was "discovered". She had the greatest voice I had ever heard, and I was positive that within months, or maybe only weeks she would be HUGE. Well, it's now 3 years later and I've learned alot about music between then and now. Most people don't want to be touched by music like the majority of Patty's fans do. They don't allow the lyrics to sink in, or they just aren't capable of listening to music that touches their soul like Patty's does. They listen to music as a pleasure, and not something that moves them. I know some people on this list feel differently, but I think that Patty will never achieve superstar status with the music industry like it is today. She may pick up lots more of the willing to listen fans on the DC's tour.. but I hope noone expects this tour to rocket her into super-stardom.. because it's just not going to happen. There will be much fewer people there to hear Patty than the Chicks, and many, MANY less people actually LISTENING. Then there will even be less of the people who start to listen, that actually will get what they're hearing. My guess is that 98% of the people will leave the concert not ever thinking of that "Nanci Griffith" chick again... Hopefully for those 2% that Patty is reaching, they'll go out and buy her CD. I must say that I'm very bitter about losing the opportunity (because of this tour) to see Patty 3 times in a 4 day span right around my b-day in July.. but Patty does need to take some time from pleasing her already Rabid fans, and try to attract some new ones. Those of us on this list will always be there for her. I just hope that there is a bit more fanfare and promotion of the new CD than there was for FR... and I hope that late this year we'll see Patty playing Theatre type places, bigger than clubs, and smaller than arenas. 2% of the Chicks crowd is probably roughly what go to Patty's shows now. If 1% of those people actually show up at one of her shows, along with the new fans gained by the promotion of her new CD, well... my mathematical wizardry and calculation skills tell me that that amount of people could put her in a larger venue on a headlining tour! Hopefully even in places like where Paul lives, where NOONE plays... (if Patty's management is reading this, PLEASE GOD give Paul a SOLO Patty show!) Those small theatres are the places where I've always most enjoyed a concert, and once you've achieved a loyal fan following like that, you know you've achieved something. Most artists that achieve the arena/stadium level of crowd support always seem to have a large number of "bandwagon fans", who are there b/c it's a big event, or only b/c everyone in the world seems to at that moment think that particular artist is great... then in a few years those artists are long forgotten. I will say that I always hope for Patty's star to rise, and for her to play these huge arenas and stadiums etc.. but I just don't see it happening, and I never want it to happen unless it's with a following of rabid fans like she has now.. :-) Dave ***************************************************************** May you dream you are dreaming, in a warm soft bed And may the voices inside you that fill you with dread Make the sound of thousands of angels instead Tonight where you might be laying your head ~~ Patty Griffin ~~ **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:01:33 EDT From: Remy457@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Austin City NO-Limits AARRGG!! It's Sunday evening and after reading my MM postings I remember now that Patty was on early this morning. DOH!! (picture Homer Simpson doing that and you've got the idea) If anyone is willing to make a copy let me know and I'll get a tape out to you. Unfortanatly I don't have anything to trade, sorry. Thanks all, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:36:20 -0400 (EDT) From: runrunrun@dellmail.com Subject: MM: NPC: open a show Hello to anyone reading this! I was just wondering since it seems there's alot of musicians from the PA area on this list, that maybe someone would like to do a show with me......it's at the Appalachian Brewery in Harrisburg - a very nice place. It'll be acoustic. If anyone is interested in doing this show with me - please respond! The date of the show is May 27th @ 9:30pm. Anyone, anyone? Thankee - bye! ((*.*))darcie. http://www.darcieminer.com "who would know better than you... a hundred love letters, and none of them true..." - patty griffin '98 - -------------------------------------------------------- Get your free DellMail address at http://www.dellnet.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:35:46 -0400 (EDT) From: runrunrun@dellmail.com Subject: MM: NPC: open a show Hello to anyone reading this! I was just wondering since it seems there's alot of musicians from the PA area on this list, that maybe someone would like to do a show with me......it's at the Appalachian Brewery in Harrisburg - a very nice place. It'll be acoustic. If anyone is interested in doing this show with me - please respond! The date of the show is May 27th @ 9:30pm. Anyone, anyone? Thankee - bye! ((*.*))darcie. "who would know better than you... a hundred love letters, and none of them true..." - patty griffin '98 - -------------------------------------------------------- Get your free DellMail address at http://www.dellnet.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 21:27:07 -0400 From: "Greg Pendleton" Subject: MM: Opening Acts I can't speak for Dixie Chick fans, but I was lucky enough to see Patty open for Richard Thompson last fall at the Keswick Theater in Glenside, PA. Not only was she amazing, but the crowd showed her a lot of respect too. If the fans aren't simply hanging out in the lobby or talking loudly when Patty starts her set, I bet she'll blow them away. Let's hope so anyway. Greg > The biggest concern I have is that we all know that the fans of the > DC's are going to clamor for "their" big hit, so the girls will get > to do "Let Him Fly" instead of Patty. Also, I hate the way most large > venue fans treat the opening act with disrespect. Not always, but a > lot of the time. > > > > No, your not the only one who doesn't want to spend a lot of money > > just to > > see Patty open for the Dixie Chics in a huge arena. The Chics are > > all right, > > but in my opinion but I don't get excited over spending a ton of > > money only > > to see Patty play a short set and then listening to a show I'm not > > that > > interested in. I also like seeing Patty in a smaller venue where > > its more > > intimate. But as she tours with the Chics a lot of people will see > > how great > > she is. It can only be a good thing for her. > > > > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 14:41:05 -0500 From: "Judy Lev" Subject: MM: NPC: need music help!!!!! does anyone know this song? it goes something like this: "morphine, morphine, what makes you so mean?" its a woman, she yodels a lot "i did a lot of waiting, did a lot of waiting" yodeling kind of... i have no idea who she is..... does anyone know? help me! please! thanks. have a good day. judy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 21:54:46 +0100 From: Steve Garrison Subject: Re: MM: Opening Acts on 5/8/00 2:27 AM, Greg Pendleton at gpendlet@email.msn.com wrote: > I can't speak for Dixie Chick fans, but I was lucky enough to see Patty open > for Richard Thompson last fall at the Keswick Theater in Glenside, PA. Not > only was she amazing, but the crowd showed her a lot of respect too. I envy your having seen that show... I was visiting a friend who lives a few blocks away from the Keswick, but seeing a show, even a great one, wasn't what that trip was about. Anyway, I'm sure you'll concede that the typical RT fan is more musically attentive, and that venue more conducive to a performer of Patty's depth, than what she is likely to encounter opening for Da Chikz. Still, most independent musicians would make unwholesome bargains to gain the sort of exposure PG will get on this tour... I certainly hope it works out for her, but I have to respect the outlook of one of my other favorite performer/songwriters, Peter Mulvey, who told me that his goal was to be able to support himself writing, recording and performing in venues of several hundred people in various places around the world (sort of like his own mentor, Chris Smither, I suspect). All in all, I think that's healthier for the music than the big grab at the gold ring... wasn't it Paul Simon, of all people, who penned the line: "the music suffers, baby/ the music business thrives." Steve G. ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V4 #132 *********************************