From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #209 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, July 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 209 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: That baseball column [L & C Israelson ] MM: Vote for Patty on VH-1 site!! [UMCaner74@aol.com] Re: MM: Vote for Patty on VH-1 site!! [L & C Israelson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:36:09 -0700 From: L & C Israelson Subject: MM: That baseball column The following excerpt is from that web baseball newsletter I mentioned a week or so ago. Although I contribute to this column on a semi-regular basis, this was written by the newsletter's founder, not me. (And, yes, MOST of it was about baseball, although you'd never know it from this snippet!) Larry I in LA > ... the third date was silky. A Mary Chapin-Carpenter concert at > Ravinia in a suburb of Chicago. Mary Chapin-Carpenter is up there with Patty > Griffin, Bruce Springsteen and George Strait on my list of all-time favorite > artists. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:26:00 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: MM: Vote for Patty on VH-1 site!! Hi guys, They are having a competition of sorts on the VH-1 website where you can vote, and they will then rate the 100 greatest women in rock. Below is the link where you can, of course..go and vote for our Ms. Griffin as #1!!! Show the world who's #1 everyone! VH1.com | 100 Women in Rock - Vote For Your Favorite in case the link doesn't work for you, here's the URL http://www.vh1.com/100women/vote.tin Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:25:29 -0700 From: L & C Israelson Subject: Re: MM: Vote for Patty on VH-1 site!! If I were a musician on the cusp of success, I would hope for LOTS of loyal fans like Dave. Patty Griffin has deeply touched me with her music, in ways that most singer/songwriters have never approached. That said, I could not possibly vote for Patty as the "greatest woman in rock" with anything remotely close to a clear conscience. She has tremendous potential, but her body of work thus far just isn't large or influential enough. That's why I voted for Celine Dion (just kidding!!). My actual choice (and I recognize that trying to select just one is probably pure folly) will probably not be too popular with the list, but I'll reveal it anyway. Paying close attention to the "rock" part of the question, I cast my ballot for Chrissie Hynde of Pretenders. Twenty years ago, it was almost unheard-of for a genuine rock band to be LED by a woman. For me, the music of Pretenders was memorable and distinctive, and stuff off their first album (e.g., "Mystery Achievement," "The Wait," "Tattooed Love Boys") sounds like it could have been released in 1999. Most of the credit has to go to Hynde for her writing, singing and playing. An idiosyncratic selection, to be sure, but I'm standing by it. Larry I in LA UMCaner74@aol.com wrote: > They are having a competition of sorts on the VH-1 website where you can > vote, and they will then rate the 100 greatest women in rock. Below is the > link where you can, of course..go and vote for our Ms. Griffin as #1!!! > > Show the world who's #1 everyone! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:55:26 -0500 From: "James P / Cristina M" Subject: MM: women in rock I must say, I agree with Larry about Patty's rock career in comparison to others. BUT, I went and voted anyway because Dave is a cyberfriend and I thought it was nice of him to encourage us to vote for Patty ;-). Personally, I was too young to catch on to The Pretenders before their "Brass in Pocket" success (however, I do remember as a child singing my heart out to that song). My influences were more "motown" (excluding my embarrassing Olivia Newton-John phase I went through when I was 7). I worshipped Aretha Franklin for a long time and probably damaged my vocal cords (and my parents' ears) trying to sing with her. Even though she is considered Soul/R&B, she has HEAVILY influenced many rock singers (particularly our beloved flaming redhead), and is a gifted musician. Listen to her early recordings and you'll hear some passionate, church-influenced piano playing by Aretha. Once she was allowed to write her own stuff, she created one of the funkiest (IMHO) soul songs ever: "Rock Steady." If that bass line doesn't make you wanna get up and shake your ass, check your pulse. Can we vote more than once at this VH1 thing? -Cristina ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #209 *********************************