From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #183 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Saturday, June 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 183 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Hey anyone out there??? wanna chat?? [ruby maroon ] Re: MM: Other artists... [SteveM712@aol.com] MM: Patty Outclasses Kilborne [JessBartn@aol.com] MM: Craig Kilborn Appearance, some thoughts... [UMCaner74@aol.com] MM: Music (Patty songs), Anne or Etta? [ruby maroon Subject: MM: Hey anyone out there??? wanna chat?? Hi Im actually at a place where I can chat anyone available????? Ruby _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:56:13 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: MM: new artists? Ruby, (so what is your *real* name? we know it's not ruby;-), If you are looking for new artists, let me reccommend some old ones instead. Someone mentioned Etta James earlier.... now she is a great recommendation if you like singers who belt out their feelings with soul and passion. Sometimes the best way to find good new artists is to listen to those who influence the new ones. Dig out that old worn-out vinyl of Janis Joplin and listen to it again. As for new stuff, a must for your collection is "Just Wont Burn" by Susan Tedeschi. If you want to hear a great singer who is more on the outside of blues towards jazz, try Nina Simone. Mimi in Austin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:59:45 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: MM: tonight on kilborn Patty, you looked FABULOUS tonight dahling!! ...band guys, give us some harmonies on Blue Sky when you do letterman (?) hehehe tonight I sang them to a very uninterested tv set. Mimi in Austin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 02:29:15 EDT From: JohnRN24@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: other artists...Willy Porter I think I saw Willie Porter open for Tori Amos in Toledo. He did a Jackson 5 cover I'm sure, and he did a pretty cool song called "Jesus on the Grille". But I could be wrong, as this was years ago (her ''Pele'' tour) Anyway that's my $0.02. Later, :-) John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: ruby maroon Subject: MM: Only an hour away. Hi I know alot of you MMers will be taping the show tonight. I cannot believe my cable keeps going out. This is like a nightmare to me. Im an hour away from seeing Patty on TV and no cable! Im very disappointed I hope that it comes back soon, I hope someone tapes it just in case, just in case!! Have a great weekend everyone. Ruby _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 03:12:08 EDT From: SteveM712@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Other artists... Two suggestions: Jonatha Brooke Heather Nova ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:38:43 EDT From: JessBartn@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty Outclasses Kilborne I dunno how I did it, but I woke up out of a sound sleep right before Patty came on! She sang an acoustic blue sky, sat on the couch for 1 minute or so...then it was all over. WAY to fast. She was obviously nervous, but I think she still shined. I was disappointed by Kilborne's lame-o questions when she was on the couch (!) "So you normally sing blue sky with a band?" Why couldn't he have gone deeper, and gotten through to the Patty we know...ask her about her music, her lyrics...? I guess because Donny Osmond took up all the Patty time they had left :-( What's strange is I've never seen her nervous like that at a concert, it must just be a TV phobia. Personally, I think she is too good for those talk shows. Hurray Patty, you shine like a diamond in the ruff. Jess ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:12:19 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: MM: Craig Kilborn Appearance, some thoughts... Hey guys, While I think the choice of doing Blue Sky acoustically last night was a good one, just for a different feel. Patty playing THIS song in particular brought some thoughts to mind. I would like your ideas and feelings on this as well, just to see if most of you agree or not. My main question is this...what is the MAIN goal in mind when Patty's management books her for a TV late night talk show? Is it...A: to please the already established fans that are just overwhelmed with joy ANYTIME Patty is on national television?? B. Just to get people used to hearing Patty's name, and to get her in the minds of potential fans.... C. To totally WOW the viewing audience, coaxing them into either going to see Patty perform live, or buy one of her Beautiful CD's. While I really enjoy the song Blue Sky, I'm a Die-Hard Patty fan, and ALWAYS will be. When I'm in my car, with the sun roof open, and the windows down and the CD player blaring, THAT is the song! However, to NEW listeners...this is not exactly your ear-catching, show-stopping, GRAB your attention and FORCE you to go buy the CD song. To the casual listener, you think, ok, she has a great voice, but it's just an upbeat, good vibe type rock song. Nothing really uniquely Patty, that will set her apart from all the other late night talk show performers. I'm thinking that even though Blue Sky IS the current radio single, she should be going for Goal C (gaining new RABID fans), and playing a song that is not only going to attract more attention, but also blow people away! There are many songs that are possibilities, and while I think Sweet Lorraine would be outstanding, let's face it, it has to be a song w/band because of the direction her music is currently going. Possible show-stoppers (in my opinion) Change, Mary, Tony, and Wiggley Fingers (controversial subject matter..oh well..), Little God, and Breaking Up Somebody's Home. Even Peter Pan would showcase her voice and make more of a powerful impact on a NEW listener than does Blue Sky. All these songs have wide appeal, and would really showcase her amazing voice, and are more "trademark" Patty songs...even though Breaking Up.. IS a cover, it still gives you more of an idea of what you will hear if you go SEE her...and judging from crowd response at shows, Breaking Up DOES excite even Lucinda fans who have never heard Patty. Where as Blue Sky normally gets mediocre crowd response. (I'm drawing from my experience of 10 Patty shows in the last 11 months here...) Please don't flame me, because I DO love Blue Sky, but I have played the Conan tape for friends who are more casual Patty fans. They all seemed only remotely entertained, and they ALL said the same thing, her voice sounds great, but the song is just OK. In my opinion, that should not be the goal of these appearances. They do not come everyday, and I may be overanalyzing the situation at hand too much, but I think they should be more completely taking advantage of these precious opportunities. A musician usually only gets 1 window of opportunity to "make it big". I believe that Patty is there now, and she IS making progress through her reputation as a great songwriter and extraordinary live performer. These television appearances maybe can't make her an overnight sensation, which is probably a good thing. They could however, play a bigger part in her gaining new fans if she was to really blow new people away, like she did to ME 1st time I saw her! I'll end this now since it's already too long...I always over-analyze EVERYTHING, but it would be nice to hear some of your opinions on this...whether in agreement or disagreement. I say TONY on Letterman!!! Love, Peace, and Music... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:31:57 -0700 (PDT) From: ruby maroon Subject: MM: Music (Patty songs), Anne or Etta? Hi you know, Im working on playing a few Patty songs, playing them well takes alot of practice and time and sore fingers. So far my list is as follows: 1. Under these clouds 2. Forgiveness 3. Long Black Limosine NOW, I need things to spice things up a bit, Id love a blues song, but not one Patty sings, I need to find my own, should I buy Etta James or Anne Peebles? Do any of you know which one is more soulfull? Bluesy? Or is it about equal? I never heard either really although I know they are great! Ruby _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:54:26 EDT From: EveryLittleBit@aol.com Subject: MM: Blue Sky on whazzisface I must say, I was INCREDIBLY pleased that Patty went accoustic last night. With the Conan apapearance you could barely hear her at all, never mind hear the beautiful sound of her voice and the way she hits so many great notes. Buty with the accoustic guitar accompanying her last night, her voice was really the center of attention and you could hear her loud and clear. She didn't go flat, she didn't miss any notes. It was wonderful. Of course, I still don't really like that song, and if I were her producer or whoever picks what songs she releases I wouldn't have released One Big Love OR Blue Sky. But if I had never heard of her and saw the Conan show, I wouldn't have been the least bit impressed. If I had seen her on Craig (I remembered his name!) I would have taken notice and wanted to learn more about her. That's the whole point, right? Crossing my fingers for a better song on Letterman (although I know is never gonna happen... ) On another note, I got copy of the Flaming Red advance promo CD today from an auction on Ebay. It's got the same songs, bu the cover and CD themselves are different. It's sooo cool :) Rachel :D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:55:19 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: MM: promotion for tv talk show circuits - choosing a song You guys are absolutley right.... Yes, the standard procedure is to promote the radio single... you promote that song and that song only... over and over...over and over until that song is exposed, and it helps to boost chart action and thus record sales. It also creates a more universal level of association... associating the singer with the song. However, in some respects, when an act chooses a song to perform on the talk show circuit, for some artists, it may be the only shot they get for this level of national exposure!! If they don't *wow* anyone, they won't be invited back. So you can imagine the pressure and the predicament. Just have faith that Patty has what it takes to be invited back with her next CD. I have been speaking with the producers of these shows myself in the efforts of getting one of the artists I promote (whom Patty and Troy know) on the shows. I tell you, booking these gigs is no easy feat. There is nothing more important for a newcomer to break through using this forum. And it is next to impossible to break through and actually get booked for them without "an angle," and for these producers, the most acceptable angle is radio action, national touring and a new record.... the key difference that sets you apart from the other schmoes is *RADIO* response. With this in mind, plus the needed stimulation of focused record sales for the purpose of monitoring chart action, the current radio hit song has to be the single, and it pretty much has to be the song played. Plus, I think the shows actually expect it from you. I imagine there would be a lot of pressure for Patty to produce another hit-making record that somehow fuses the simplicity, power and passion of LWG with the production and radio appeal of FR. I think it could happen. The key is choosing the right songs that come from the soul and producing them to complimentary levels that don't take away from her voice. Maybe next they can book her on Saturday Night Live and they will give her TWO songs... and her other song can be her next hit, Tony. ;-) Love from an Austin (her home who misses her) Mimi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:04:34 EDT From: MistyBC@aol.com Subject: MM: Corrs, Dar, Kilborn & Felicity Hello MMers! :-) Okay, first of all... It's THE CORRS, not the beer. :-) Their first album is MUCH better than their second, in my opinion. The first one is less poppy, and more traditional. I love most Irish music... Like Altan & The Chieftains. Everyone should get the new Chieftains album, called "Tears of Stone" (I *think*)... It features about 15 different female vocalists from Joni Mitchell to Bonnie Raitt to Natalie Merchant to The CoRrs to that woman who sang the "aaaah-aaah"s in the movie Titanic. It's a beautiful album. Now. Dar. I shouldn't say this on the Patty list, but Dar is my absolute favorite singer/songwriter on this earth. She's so funny, intelligent, adorable and just wonderful. Everyone should own "The Honesty Room", her debut album. Well, I think everyone should own all of Dar's albums, but if you have to get one, that's what you should get. I sorta found out about Patty through the Dar-List. I had "Living with Ghosts" but didn't listen to it much... Then everyone on the list just kept raving about it and "Flaming Red," so I decided to give it another listen. And here I am! I just wish Dar would come to Tennessee as much as Patty does. :-( Craig Kilborn--funny? Um... okay. :-) I'm not too fond of him... he's sexist and simply boring. I know, I know, I guess I just don't "get" his humor, I suppose that's my loss, huh? I'd rather watch Conan anyday. Heck, I'd watch Jay Leno before Kilborn... I'd watch Hard Copy before Kilborn... I'd watch Baywatch before Kilborn... Okay, no, I went too far. Sorry. Sorry for my "attitude"... I'm just feeling fiesty today! Take care everyone! - -Misty, who didn't watch Patty on Kilborn last night because she's on a boat for the weekend... Go figure, we have a computer but not CBS. (Don't worry, I DID set the VCR!) P.S. Remember when we thought that it might be Patty's voice on the theme to the TV show "Felicity"? Well, it's not Patty, it's Amy Jo Johnson, aka "Julie" and "Kimberly, Pink Power Ranger". She also has a song on the new "Felicity" soundtrack... It's really good! She sounds like Sophie Zelmani, whose CD I got a while back just cause it looked good and it actually was! Anyone heard of her? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:49:24 EDT From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: amy jo johnson and other recommendations misty writeS: > P.S. Remember when we thought that it might be Patty's voice on the theme > to the TV show "Felicity"? Well, it's not Patty, it's Amy Jo Johnson, aka > "Julie" and "Kimberly, Pink Power Ranger". She also has a song on the new > "Felicity" soundtrack... It's really good! She sounds like Sophie Zelmani, > whose CD I got a while back just cause it looked good and it actually was! > Anyone heard of her? Amy Jo is awesome! her song "puddle of grace" is excellent and she performed it live on the show, as well as on live w/ regis and kathy lee. She performs w/ her band Valhalla out in LA frequently... She has very high hopes for her music career, according to a friend of mine who interviewed her ... there was a demo tape floating around which I'm trying to get ahold of... also the Felicity soundtrack is pretty good, there's some Heather Nova, Sarah McLachlan, Remy Zero, Peter Gabriel, etc... My other recommendations: Emm Gryner--my absolute favorite and one of the nicest people ever. She's been totally supportive to me with my own music career, and her music is incredible... She has her own label (dead daisy records) and released a CD out on that in 1997, was signed to mercury and released "Public", which you can find almost anywhere now (CD Now, Borders, etc., etc.), was dropped after the universal/polygram merger, and is now releasing her 3rd cd "science fair" on her label again. She's an amazing writer and artist... She's accomplished so much and she's only 24! I would also TOTALLY recommend a friend of Emm's and another very promising Toronto singer-songwriter, Sarah Slean... She was recently signed to Atlantic Records but will release an indie cd sometime in the next month. Her EP "Universe" is an amazing piece of work, and she's incredible to see live... often she plays with a string section, but normally it's just her and her piano, a cello, and a drummer... Others: Julia Darling (www.juliadarling.com), Dar Williams (Try "mortal city"--great CD), Bic Runga (www.bicrunga.com), Morcheeba, Tara MacLean (amazing, amazing)... jessica, who missed patty last night and ben lee on letterman...whoops... www.aquezada.com/jess ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #183 *********************************