From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #145 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, May 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 145 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Bring up Patty-stock in chat tonight?? [UMCaner74@aol.com] MM: a quick note on chatiqutte [Julie E Graham ] MM: Idols [diamondmask@juno.com] MM: Re: my turn! ["Marc Hertz" ] MM: Hi is anyone out there? Waiting for chat time? [ruby maroon ] MM: Autographs, Fun and Idolatry [Han ] MM: Re: chatty patty [Mooodeee@aol.com] Re: MM: Re: chatty patty [Zelly72@aol.com] MM: Patty's chat!! [UMCaner74@aol.com] MM: Lyrics and/or tabs archive? [YouNeverGetWhatYouWant@aol.com] MM: EVERYONE please read! [UMCaner74@aol.com] Re: MM: Lyrics and/or tabs archive?.for LISA [UMCaner74@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:42:02 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: MM: Bring up Patty-stock in chat tonight?? Hey guys.. Just a thought...I did mention our Patty-stock idea to Patty at a show a few weeks ago, and she seemed genuinely interested, and very disappointed about her manager's decision...do you think we should bring up this subject to her in the chat this evening?? Maybe if she sees how many people are REALLY interested in such a thing, she would be more inclined to do it. Otherwise, I'll be forced to do as I said I should do, and just kidnap her for a weekend this summer....YES!!! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:08:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Julie E Graham Subject: MM: a quick note on chatiqutte Hi gang, I'm so excited about the chat tonight. Before it happens, I thought I'd help out the m&m's who have never participated in celeb chat before. 1) type questions in the "ask a question box". Patty is not in the chat room with us. A moderator selects questions from questions submitted. Someone transcribes her answers. *Patty CAN NOT read what you write in the chat box.* 2) Have fun. It should be great. Kisses, Julie "Raised by Wolves in Alaska. Learned to yodel at the moon. Lived in a van on the San Diego freeway, only stopped for gas...." - Jewel reflects jokingly of critics' view of her childhood. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:14:23 -0700 From: diamondmask@juno.com Subject: MM: Idols This is nothing new. People have idolized performers, sports stars, politicians, and the like forever. I think it's a need to be near "greatness". I think it's a need to somehow show this person how much whatever it is they do affects you. There's nothing wrong with it. To the artist, it's part of the deal. To the fan, it's a chance to meet the person whose CD's, books, posters, whatever you've purchased. It may get tiring at times for the "star", but you can't tell me they don't get some major ego strokes from seeing the people out there waiting. I recently went to a David Wilcox show here in Seattle. He has ALWAYS come out afterwards to sign stuff and gab. His show that night was less than his best effort. He was a little ill, jet lagged, and his guitar was giving him fits because the night before he had stepped on the chord and yanked something loose inside the guitar. A bunch of us waited and his manager came out and said that he wasn't coming out tonight because he was exhausted. And that was more than ok. While I wanted to ask him about his sound problems, it wasn't a big deal. I've talked to him several times and he actually seems to like meeting the fans. Yeah, the concert should be enough, but like Patty, you tend to want them to know how much they move you. Some nights, they probably don't care. Other nights, they may really need to hear it. I've gotten to know a couple of local performers, and Brooks Williams. They are genuinely nice people. But, they're just like you or me, just had the cajones to work hard at their craft and reap the rewards. And part of that comes with adoring fans. If they hate meeting the fans, it's apparent, and soon they may not have any. I'm not saying that you should have alters set up in your homes, that's a bit over the edge, but you shouldn't feel bad about approaching them. Just tell 'em, "Thanks for the hard work!" john in sumner wa ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:20:04 -0700 From: "Marc Hertz" Subject: MM: Re: my turn! >From Christina's post: "At the other end of the spectrum, Naomi Wolf (an insightful feminist author) came for an informal signing and this time, boy, I was prepared! Only 4 of us had gathered and I found her to be very gracious and wise. She encouraged one person to write down their life story because it is a history. She answered my questions and gave us insight about how she writes." For me, this is the main reason I would love the chance to meet 'celebrities.' It's not for that five-second "Oh my god, you're so amazing, you've changed my life more than you could ever know, and, no, I'm not obsessed, really, I'm not, you've gotta believe me, please, don't call security," but for the chance to get pearls of wisdom from those people who I consider to be the best at their particular fields. As an aspiring screenwriter/novelist, I know I have a lot to learn, and, in my mind, who better to learn from? And since I've never really had a writing mentor, how ideal would it be to have someone who really knows their shit to serve as that mentor. When I was at a Writers Conference a few years ago, I was watching one of the presentations when I realized Ron Howard was sitting a few rows up from me. My first thought was "Wow, look, Opie," but then I thought to myself, "God, how much could I learn from this guy if I was able to sit down with him for just half an hour." I ended up doing nothing, of course, being a generally shy person, but also because I figured he's there because he wants to learn something too, and he's at this conference to have some down time (the conference was in Maui). Somehow, if that chance comes up again, I may have to take it. I met Patty once before, and got her autograph, and it was really cool, but I don't think it meant as much to me as it would've have if I were a musician or a singer, because then I could talk shop with her and learn technique, get tips, etc. What I think would be the most amazing Patty experience would be the Patty-stock idea that's being thrown around. To have the opportunity to hear just her for a few hours, acoustically - like the first time I heard 'Living With Ghosts' and was so completely moved and blown away - would be breathtaking, and to then have that memory (and, hell, tape if possible)... wow. I must couch what I've said with the fact that I used to be autograph-goofy as a kid. I hung around after Hawaii Islanders games to get autographs of the players on baseball cards, game programs, baseballs, etc. I used to go to hotels the Pro Bowl players would stay at and have them autograph my football cards. I even once ran after Sandy Koufax as he was getting in his car and knocked on the window to ask for his autograph (and was successful - probably because he pitied me). Hell, it was fun, I was a kid, and I could've been doing a lot of worse things with my time. All I know is that I was always nice to whomever was willing to sign, always thanked them, and if they didn't want to, I knew that was their pregorative and wasn't a prick about it (unlike a lot of other people - both kids and adults - I saw). I, like a lot of people in American society, have a fascination with pop culture, and I probably will forever (or until I see the horrible underbelly and am scared away for good). There's nothing wrong with that unless you allow it to take over your life. It's like everything in life - moderation good, obsession bad. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:51:34 -0700 (PDT) From: ruby maroon Subject: MM: Hi is anyone out there? Waiting for chat time? Hi Im so silly I dont have a computer at home and I am sitting here at the library waiting to chat!! This is great I love it!! Ruby _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:31:16 -0500 From: "James P" Subject: MM: chatty patty Did anyone else have problems getting on the chat site? Apparently you need a special software from vegas.com to do it. FORGET THAT!!! I'll just read a transcript, I guess.... -Cristina ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:39:40 -0400 From: Han Subject: MM: Autographs, Fun and Idolatry Hi there, Thanks for your supportiveness re: my posts! I am always afraid to bring that story out of the closet. You know, I've never been big on autographs. I just don't get it. I wanted *more* from my groupiedom! (i.e., intimacy) I wouldn't stop with the autographs, unless they were at the bottom of a card that said "I love you Johanna." (Once, as a joke, when I had menstrual cramps, I had Rob autograph the bottle of Motrin he gave me, but the excitement wore off pretty quick). But there seems nothing wrong with autographs to me. I guess I just wanna say, don't let my story knock the fun out of groupiedom... just don't expect to *sleep* with Patty (though I know how sexy she is!), or someone close to Patty, or be her closest confidante, and you'll be all good in the mental health department. My story is one about an extreme situation. Have fun meeting Patty if you get the chance! She was really nice to me... and I don't expect her to remember me if I should ever say hello again. I'm staying realistic this time. I'm all grown up (only took several years to recover...). Be well, Han ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:45:17 EDT From: Mooodeee@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: chatty patty Yeah, I couldnt get that crap to work on my puter either. Somebody chatting with her now please tell her to chat on AOL Live!! its much easier! Lazy and computer illiterate in Austin, Mimi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:59:29 EDT From: Zelly72@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Re: chatty patty I got on for a brief minute, but then my @#!@##, slow computer kicked me off. By the time I got back on it was over. I didn't seem to need to download anything though. Anyone hear if she is doing any Chicago shows anytime soon? Thanks, Terri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:02:33 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty's chat!! Hey guys, Well, despite being kicked out for the 1st half of the chat, I still thoght it was ok..I DID get to ask Patty about Patty-stock, but she didn't really answer the question... It takes a few weeks (apparently) for the full transcript of the chat to be posted. There were somevery interesting questions asked, and I'm sure you all will want to check it out!! Anyway, I'm a tired boy, I think I'm off to bed now.. Take care everyone, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:32:57 -0500 From: YouNeverGetWhatYouWant@aol.com Subject: MM: Lyrics and/or tabs archive? Hi everybody :=) I'm new here but have been a huge Patty fan for like ages! Does anyone know of a lyrics or tabs archive for Pattys toons? I know I saw one before, but I can't seem to find it again :/ Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:33:33 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: MM: EVERYONE please read! Hey guys, Me again..ok, as everyone was chatting before the "Patty chat" we all kind of came up with the idea of creating a Patty club of sorts...where we could get together and have scheduled online chats and stuff like that. Since we all get along so well through email, and the chatting was going well, why not?? So I went to Yahoo and created the "Patty's Mad Mission" club. I don't really know what I doing with it yet..totally..but it's up and running for now. You can go and post messages, and there is a chat section which I didn't even look into yet. Everyone who's interested in this..I would like feedback from you on when would be a good time of the week for us to get together. I know it will be tough with everyone's work schedules, and being that we're in different time zones, that will be tough too..so maybe we can arrange something where there are 2 different times to possibly meet..whatever..I'm rambling here.. You have to JOIN the club to be able to post anything, or use the chat, so here's the link to the club... Yahoo! Clubs pattysmadmission I'm hoping since it's with Yahoo..this may create some more interest for Patty, and hopefully gain her a few more fans! I'm REALLY off to bed now.. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:55:01 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Lyrics and/or tabs archive?.for LISA Lisa, Here are the links to the Patty lyrics and tab archives... The Patty Griffin Lyrics Archive The Patty Griffin Guitar Tab Archives How the heck did you get all those letters in your aol screen name?? I tried to email this directly to you...but it didn't work, it said there were too many letters.... Dave ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #145 *********************************