From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #124 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Monday, May 3 1999 Volume 03 : Number 124 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Patty singing national anthem [UMCaner74@aol.com] MM: Re: Tonight's Ktown concert ["Victoria Chenevey" ] MM: Settle down, now [Wendy J ] MM: my Patty day ["James P" ] Re: MM: Settle down, now [UMCaner74@aol.com] MM: My final word's on Amy VS. Tori.. ["Darren" ] MM: hair dye [CornflkGl@aol.com] MM: Fairies (NPC) [Joe Sullivan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:23:25 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Patty singing national anthem Jean, All I can tell you is that Patty DID sing the Star Spangled Banner at an Indianapolis Colts game sometime last year. I have not heard of anyone who has this on tape, although there was someone on the MM list who was in attendance for her performance... Good Luck in finding a recording of it! My guess is that noone went to a football game with the intention of recording the national anthem being sung..but you NEVER know.... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:17:33 -0700 From: "Victoria Chenevey" Subject: MM: Re: Tonight's Ktown concert <> LOL! Somehow that just strikes me as so funny! Thanks for the concert report. The first time I saw Patty it was with the band, before FR came out. I was used to LWG and was just blown away! I did like it, even though the band was way too loud. Fortunately, she did do some acoustic songs from LWG and FR, too. I saw her later, all acoustic, and admit I missed the band on some songs. Really, the best Patty is acoustic AND band. Either way, she rocks! Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:24:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Vanessa McGowan Subject: MM: A response Hey all! Just a quick response to amy's post. Why is it that people feel the need to slam others for things they have absolutely no knowledge of or context for? Tori fan or not...I was extremely offended by amy's post and as a result, have no interest in hearing what she has to say (at least for now!) To you amy, I have one question! How would you feel if I slammed you faith over the net? As I have stated before, I am an initiate of faery wicca and your comments about her interest in the fae being "out there" hurt me deeply. If you cared enough to look beyond you would learn that they are not little men with pointy shoes and women with gossimer wings (although I love that image) but, an ancient race of people who were exterminated. Next time you feel the need to slam someone for things you don't know about or have any interest in - please... KEEP IT TO YOURSELF! === my country 'tis of thee/ to take shots at each other on prime time t.v./ why don't you just go ahead and turn off the sun/ 'cause we'll never live long enough/ to undo everything they've done to you/ 'tis of thee - Ani Difranco _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Wendy J Subject: MM: Settle down, now Throwing my hat in the ring...I think everyone needs to just settle down. The beauty of the internet (and America)is that people are free to express their opinions...OPINIONS, which is exactly what Amy expressed (and even with a disclaimer attached to it, which, personally, I didn't think was necesssary). I didn't think her post was THAT controversial. So she thinks Tori Amos is "out" there. So she doesn't understand wicca or faeries...so what? So she thinks theater majors and people who dye their hair are phonys. Big deal! She clearly stated that she was expressing her OPINION ...and even apologized for it in the very next paragraph. Ligthen up, folks! just because someone has an opinion about something, doesn't mean it's TRUE, right?? God, if that were the case, a lot o'people would be burnin' in hell right now thanks to the lovely per order of Rev. Falwell and Pat Robertson. anyways, just my $.02. Let's play nice, kids! - --- Vanessa McGowan wrote: > Hey all! > > Just a quick response to amy's post. > > Why is it that people feel the need to slam others > for > things they have absolutely no knowledge of or > context > for? Tori fan or not...I was extremely offended by > amy's post and as a result, have no interest in > hearing what she has to say (at least for now!) > > To you amy, I have one question! How would you feel > if > I slammed you faith over the net? As I have stated > before, I am an initiate of faery wicca and your > comments about her interest in the fae being "out > there" hurt me deeply. If you cared enough to look > beyond you would learn that they are not little men > with pointy shoes and women with gossimer wings > (although I love that image) but, an ancient race of > people who were exterminated. > > Next time you feel the need to slam someone for > things > you don't know about or have any interest in - > please... KEEP IT TO YOURSELF! > > > > === > my country 'tis of thee/ > to take shots at each other on prime time t.v./ > why don't you just go ahead and turn off the sun/ > 'cause we'll never live long enough/ > to undo everything they've done to you/ > 'tis of thee - Ani Difranco > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 20:48:58 -0500 From: "James P" Subject: MM: my Patty day Hey all, Well I had quite a funfilled Patty day, let me tell ya! I even have the sunburn to prove it. We left this morning around 11:45 to go to the Riverstages festival in downtown Nashville and en route, we heard on the radio that Patty would be doing an interview on Lightning 100 in the next "few minutes." My first reaction was "COOL!" which was immediately followed by, "OH SHIT!" as I realized that no one was home to record it for me. Well, we easily found a parking lot and then proceeded to wait and wait and wait some more for them to finally talk to Patty. A "few minutes" turned into 30 and finally Patty was interviewed. The first thing they asked her about were her influences to which she replied "all kinds" and then proceeded to compliment the station on how they play Emmylou Harris and Greenday together. She compared this to how different her musical tastes are and said it was right up her ally. She and the band then played "Blue Sky." The DJ then asked her if she's played many festivals and she answered that she's played a few in the past. When asked to compare the difference between indoor and outdoor shows, Patty said that the "outdoors add different variables." She was then asked when she decided to become a musician. She said that at 12 she really discovered how much she loved to sing. She found it comforting and loved how easily she could get lost in a song. She also talked about how good of a singer her mother is and that she was always singing around the house and this also inspired her. The DJ asked her what Patty did to get where she is today. Patty just simply responded that she's worked very hard over the years waiting tables and focusing on her musical goals. The band started gearing up for "Breakin' Up" and started playing that funky bass line, but the DJ then told the story about how Patty blew up the breaker at the 3rd and Lindsley show back in December. This came at that crucial last note at the end of "Wiggley Fingers" and Patty missed the expressive ending note because the lights and sound went out. The DJ said how he was waiting for that note because it was his favorite part of the song and was kind of apologizing for the power surge. He was telling this story while the band played the intro to "Breakin' Up." It sounded pretty cool. Patty then sweetly obliged him and cut her band off and told them to play "Wiggley" for the DJ. When the final note came, Patty sang it, but she started laughing right in the middle of it and explained that it was too early in the day to sing that song. That was it. The whole interview lasted 15 minutes. So anyway, we met Misty and her friend, Xena, at the Phoenix stage and then met up with Julie. We all then walked hand in hand chanting "Patty! Patty! Patty!" and surprisingly got lots of "you go girls!" from passersby. Then Misty performed an interpretive dance as we sang "Flaming Red" and gathered quite an audience who begged for more after her dramatic finish. She refused autographs (much to her amusement and their disappointment) and we then had to run from the increasingly aggressive audience as they shouted, "savages!" and began throwing turkey legs at us. We finally reached the First American Stage and secured front and almost center places. After waiting in the unforgiving sun, Patty reached the stage right on time at 3:35 and performed the following set list: Go Now Flaming Red Wiggley Fingers Change Goodbye Christina (no relation to me) Tony Blue Sky Little God Breakin' Up Mary Patty wasn't too chatty but did say that it was nice to sing "Blue Sky" on such a beautiful day. Some woman off to the right went absolutely nuts when the intro to "Mary" began. She like started screaming and stomping her feet. Patty's keyboard player just kinda looked at her and laughed. It was pretty funny. Anyway, I must say that I really enjoyed the show and had a lot of fun. I even saw some people I met from the Tori shows last year. While Patty was tuning her guitar, I asked both Misty and Julie to request that Smiths song (you see, I'm too chicken to do it myself) but then Patty started playing again. Oh well, maybe she'll play it at the 328 show. Anyway, I still have a heat headache but am recuperating slowly. I've had enough vitamin D for the next 3 years. -Cristina P.S. Just kidding around Misty, don't be mad.....;))))) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 21:52:04 EDT From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Settle down, now Wendy, AMEN SISTER! I agree with absolutely everything you said and how you said it! By the way, I happen to know many either current, ex, or future theater majors, and in ever case they just happen to be the most REAL and sincerely nice people that I know. I enjoy my time with them very much, and they are not at all fake and do not fabricate any feelings or emotions. These however, are my personal feelings and opinions on that particular subject. As quoted from TV commercials, "your personal experiences or results may vary.." However, Amy does not know these people that I know, nor was she referring to them. She has obviously had bad experiences with people in the theater field, and like Wendy said, that's her opinion. We all express our opinions and feelings on here..and since everyone is different, we can not agree on everything. I feel that part of the beauty in this world is that no 2 people are alike. I love to get to know people and their thoughts, feelings, reactions, etc. I don't necessarily agree with half of what people say sometimes. As the matter of fact, some of my close personal friends think directly opposite of me on seemingly every subject we ever discuss. My friends and I do most of the time have at least 1 common love..whether it be music, sports, animals, whatever. You can learn so much from people with different opinions, different backgrounds, different knowledge, and different tastes, interests, and ideas than yourself. I enjoy being with people who are different from me, because, if you were me, you WOULD NOT want to be around someone like yourself..(just a joke)...maybe not... Anyway..I really think that Amy was not personally attacking anyone, just stating her opinion that she can relate to Patty more so than Tori. just my .02 AGAIN. I guess that makes it .04 now doesn't it??? :-) damn, if I keep writing I'm going to make someone a VERY wealthy person. Dave oh yeah..Patty G ROCKS!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:45:04 -0400 From: "Darren" Subject: MM: My final word's on Amy VS. Tori.. Everyone who is suddenly jumping up to defend Amy as not trying to belittle anyone might need to read her post one more time, so here it is, exactly as I received it: I like Patty much more. (NOt that I really see a reason for comparing the two other than they both have red hair--Patty's is real, TOri's isn't. I think that's symbolic--Tori has a phony hard edge while Patty is authentic, soft, raw, real...sweet and kind and sensitive. Tori's sensitive, but has that phony hard edge and is a bit to out there with her faeries and whatnot. She's like a phony theatre major type...Patty is like a NATURAL WOMAN--Beautiful, real, powerful, tiny, cute, kind, strong, etc. Right off the bat, she says that's Tori's hair is not real, which by the way, it is. And goes on to say that is symbolic, not leaving any doubt that she feels Tori is Phony, fine she is entitled to her opinion, no matter how uneducated that may be. She then goes on to say that she is out there with "her faeries and stuff". Like some others I found this personally insulting being of the Wiccan persuasion. Then to go on to say theatre majors are phony. My closest friends are theatre majors and they definitely are not phony. Any other groups that she might like to put down?? I never saw any apology in this text from Am, nor have I seen any posting from her since then. I would like her top just clarify these points if there is any way we could have misunderstood them. I wish that were the case but her text looks pretty clear to me. I am hoping she was just having a bad day. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:56:41 EDT From: CornflkGl@aol.com Subject: MM: hair dye OK, you know what, spitting venemous people everywhere ? Patty dyes her hair too. I'm sure it's really red, but she dyes it redder. So... the whole rest of this fight is really funny... but I wanted to add that in to get something straightish. rachel:D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 21:03:44 -0700 From: Joe Sullivan Subject: MM: Fairies (NPC) It seems like the Wiccans needn't fear unfounded attacks on their religious beliefs. Very similar to Christians who say "How dare you QUESTION immaculate conception?! How dare you question the literal translations of biblical texts?" Myself, I've never seen any fairy people. It doesn't seem soooo strange to question their existence. You may find the description of "out there" as degrading, but unless you're willing to help explain it to us, I don't see how you can be surprised by it. So, what's the deal with the Fairies? How do you know they existed? IS there any evidence that you can point to? Do you have any personal experience with them--probably not if they were exterminated? Or, are fairies more like belief in magic? Something worth putting your psychic energy into which may not actually exist? Religious faith is one of the most dangerous motivators of some of the greatest injustices in human history: crusades, burning times, Native American extermination, some elements in Yugoslavian ethnic cleansing, etc. I am genuinely interested, I'm just a bit skeptical of faith without proof/explanation/etc. THEY RISKY! Respectively, joe PS. Patty rocks! ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #124 *********************************