From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #118 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, April 28 1999 Volume 03 : Number 118 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Just a random thought : c ) Please Read [UMCaner74@aol.com] MM: Re: Painted Bride - 4/23 ["Darren" ] MM: In Fairness ["Darren" ] MM: When the time is right.... [Carol ] Re: MM: When the time is right.... [Hejjira1@aol.com] Re: MM: When the time is right.... [Carol ] MM: Lunchtime music [Donsem@concentric.net] MM: npc: attention boston area mishers ["Nancy Micciulla" Subject: MM: Re: Painted Bride - 4/23 I saw you there Donna. Unfortunately I didn't get to see Patty. I was the one by the front desk on the cell-phone sounding very agitated. Upstages who I bought my tickets from had oversold the event, and I went all the way there, only to find out that the Painted bride did not have my tickets due to Upstages stupidity. Not a happy Darren.......... > I now know why most everyone on the list favors Patty's acoustic shows. I'm > really glad I got to see her in such a small venue before she gets too > famous. > > BTW, I was the one with the dog. > > Donna > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:23:05 -0400 From: "Darren" Subject: MM: In Fairness To be fair to Upstages, I should say that the woman I spoke to, Christine, sounded very sincere in her apologies and promised me free tickets to see Ani DiFranco on my birthday at the Mann. I'll let the list know if they come through on that. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:04:58 -0800 From: Carol Subject: MM: When the time is right.... I was touched by Paul and Dave's "How I fell in love with Patty" stories. Paul, you are absolutely right when saying that if you put an album away for a while, I call it my 1 year rule, and return to it, you may be very surprised at your differing perceptions and reactions. So often people take one listen to an artist or particular CD and decide they don't like, sometimes quickly giving it away to friends or anyone who will take it. I get angry at my friends who offer to give me albums they don't connect with. I refuse to take it. "Give it a year" I always say. We become different people, changed, influenced, touched by new circumstances and people. How often have we listened to something on the insistence or suggestion of another we value or trust? Even though we hated it the first time, somehow we hear it differently from advise of someone we care about or whose opinion we value. Don't we all have life experiences that open us up to opportunities and chances we may not have looked for or taken up at a different time in our lives? An album may speak nothing to me at one point, and mean everything later. At first listen, I didn't like Flaming Red at all. It was loud, noisy, too many damn instruments hindering a vocal genius. I didn't hear Tony or Goodbye the way they ought to be heard. I wasn't at all receptive. All I could focus on was how this album was so different from LWG, and I wouldn't have it. Well, FR isn't really that different, although it is certainly a bit of a deviation from the first. Lyrically, she's still revealing vulnerability and writing with intensity and passion. Vocally, she's never sounded better, and musically, she's invited other sounds void in LWG to compliment her. maybe i was ready for it later. when the time is right..... so, please, for the love of god, don't use a CD as a coaster just because the first few listens didn't take!!!!! carol ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:46:26 EDT From: Hejjira1@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: When the time is right.... I don't think what Carol said could have been put any better. Although I was intstantly in love with Flaming Red, regardless of any loud guitars.......I did have the same issue people had with Patty with Tori Amos. I became a devout follower of Tori when Boys for Pele came out......I loved the way I could put on that CD and feel like the girl was just sitting in my kitchen belting out one tune after another. What can I say.....I'm a sucker for intimacy. Well I waited almost two years for her to follow up that masterpiece.....and believe me I was the first one at the local record store to purchase "from the choirgirl hotel". I didn't like it. Although I wouldn't go as far to say that she was selling out......I was so stuck on her and her piano that the techno grooves of Raspberry Swirl and the swirling dervish of Hotel just struck me as something Tori wasn't. So of course the CD was tossed aside and a year passed. Well just two days ago I sat down and plopped Chorgirl in and let go of my judgements and just listened. And what a gem I found. It continously amazes me the way Tori can take a song (much the way Patty can do) and turn it into a severed nerve.......completely exposed and twitching. And it doesn't matter if that nerve is dressed with an acoustic guitar, piano, electric guitar, harpsichord, drums, etc. It is still a nerve and it still deserves attention. That is what "from the choirgirl hotel" taught me! peace out Paul "A strange boy is weaving a course of grace and havoc on a yellow skateboard through midday traffic. Just when I think he's foolish and childish, and I want him to be manly, I catch my fool and my child needing love and understanding." Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:55:59 -0800 From: Carol Subject: Re: MM: When the time is right.... I saw Patty the first time at the Troubadour here in L.A. and it was a disappointing experience, to say the least. Partly to my own resistance for this new band she assembled and the new sound, partly because the sound in the room, well, just plain sucked, and partly because Patty and the other members seemed to be having a hard time synchronizing with one another and complimenting each other. It was almost a contest between who could be louder, Patty or the bass player or the guitar player or the drummer. She seemed strained and uneasy, looking back at these guys wondering whose brilliant idea this was. This was early on when the band had just began to tour together, and it was painfully clear they were not used playing as a unit. I went home sad, and that played a part in my resistance to FR. It was the first time I'd heard the new stuff and unfortunately the presentation wasn't up to par. I haven't gone back to see her since. She just doesn't make out here as often! Lucky New Englanders! It's hard to hear you talk about your road trips to a PG show. They're slim pickin's here. From "listening" to you guys, it sounds as if things have improved much since. I will not judge her one show. I've given it a year, it's time to go back......... carol ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:42:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Donsem@concentric.net Subject: MM: Lunchtime music So, I'm sitting in a restaurant here in Richmond having a lunch meeting when I hear "Tony" over the music system. Not exactly lunchtime music, but I enjoyed it :-) BTW, I've heard Patty play the "original" version of "Tony" twice and I actually like the version on FR a bit better. That song works well with a whole band. don - -- "For Those Who are about to Folk We Salute You" -- Rejected cd title for Eddie From Ohio's upcoming cd "Looking Out The Fishbowl" Don Semmens; Richmond VA; donsem@concentric.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:25:24 PDT From: "Nancy Micciulla" Subject: MM: npc: attention boston area mishers hey all, okay, so i realize i probably shouldn't be posting this stuff on the list, but i said no patty content in the subject, so i guess it's alright. anyway. . .i'm a singer/songwriter from the philadelphia area. dave goodyear from the list ( umcaner74@aol.com ) has mentioned me a couple times (thanks again dave!). anywho, i've decided that i need to make a few changes in my life. i can't keep going to school, going home for the summer, working to pay my car insurance and then going right back to school with perhaps a day's vacation. so i've decided that this summer is going to be for me, not for my mom or my car. in fact, i've already put up a couple of ads about selling my car. so what i'm asking you folks is if any of you have any suggestions about where i could stay for a few months. a cheap apartment, a ymca, an abandoned warehouse (just kidding on that one). i'm also looking for places (coffee shops, bars) that i could play. so again, i'm sorry for sending this to the list, but i didn't know how else to do it. if any of you could email me privately and send some suggestions, that'd be great. thank you for reading! nancy micciulla _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:26:43 PDT From: "Nancy Micciulla" Subject: MM: npc: attention boston area mishers hey all, okay, so i realize i probably shouldn't be posting this stuff on the list, but i said no patty content in the subject, so i guess it's alright. anyway. . .i'm a singer/songwriter from the philadelphia area. dave goodyear from the list ( umcaner74@aol.com ) has mentioned me a couple times (thanks again dave!). anywho, i've decided that i need to make a few changes in my life. i can't keep going to school, going home for the summer, working to pay my car insurance and then going right back to school with perhaps a day's vacation. so i've decided that this summer is going to be for me, not for my mom or my car. in fact, i've already put up a couple of ads about selling my car, and the plan is to move to boston (or maybe cambridge) for the summer. so what i'm asking you folks is if any of you have any suggestions about where i could stay for a few months. a cheap apartment, a ymca, an abandoned warehouse (just kidding on that one). i'm also looking for places (coffee shops, bars) that i could play. so again, i'm sorry for sending this to the list, but i didn't know how else to do it. if any of you could email me privately and send some suggestions, that'd be great. thank you for reading! nancy micciulla oh, and if any of you are looking to buy a car. . . _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:03:49 EDT From: COOLTUNES5@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Patty 's west coast tour dates / new Letterman date I'm not sure where you got that David Letterman Info, but after the Phila Painted bride Show, I heard her mention she thought the show had actually been pushed to July. Your info may be more accurate, just heard it from the horseeeeeees mouth LOL ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #118 *********************************