From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V3 #94 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, April 6 1999 Volume 03 : Number 094 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [Fwd: Re: MM: Lights out] [L & C Israelson ] Re: MM: NPC: Just a note,on this new spoken word song [L & C Israelson ] MM: Favorite Patty Lyrics [L & C Israelson ] MM: Wear Sunscreen [Linus Gelber ] Re: MM: Wear Sunscreen ["Shelley Miller" ] MM: boring sob story, but partly patty ["Nancy Micciulla" ] RE: MM: sob story, but partly patty ["Paquin, John" ] Re: MM: sob story, but partly patty [Wendy J ] MM: Re: boring sob story, but partly patty ["Victoria Chenevey" ] MM: tix for this Sat.'s show [Chris Chan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:28:27 -0700 From: L & C Israelson Subject: [Fwd: Re: MM: Lights out] Message-ID: <370A5DC2.6D25@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:17:22 -0700 From: L & C Israelson Reply-To: nelliebly@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Perlman, Judith" Subject: Re: MM: Lights out References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for the tardy reply, but I've been on a business trip. This list was compiled in the spirit of drifting off with a smile on my face, which has become somewhat ironic since I am currently up way past my bedtime hoping that my 11-year-old daughter's kitty-cat returns home real soon. This strictly indoor cat has somehow vanished, my daughter cried herself to sleep, and it's killing me that I can't make it better. Tops on my nighty-night list would be Greg Brown's "In The Dark With You" (no pun intended, but an apt title), which is full of funny yet sad songs delivered in a wonderfully "lived-in" style. The first song, "Who Woulda Thunk It," has got to be one of the definitive ruminations on approaching "middle age." Sample lyric: We used to say, "I don't care if I never grow old. Flame gonna burn, take one quick turn and be gone like James Dean." Now we don't say that, it's too late to die young Best of the rest: LWG Cowgirl's Prayer (Emmylou Harris), an album that manages to be very spiritual without beating you over the head with it I'm Your Man (Leonard Cohen), very soothing (although my wife might say stultifying) Astral Weeks (Van Morrison) Blood On The Tracks (Bob Dylan) American Recordings (Johnny Cash) I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got (Sinead O'Connor) Unplugged (Neil Young) Sail Away (Randy Newman) Larry I in LA Perlman, Judith wrote: > > What music would you put on at 3 a.m. and listen to in the dark? (Candle > permissible) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:48:34 -0700 From: L & C Israelson Subject: Re: MM: NPC: Just a note,on this new spoken word song This "song" was apparently put together by Baz Luhrmann, who directed "Strictly Ballroom" and that very loud modernized version of "Romeo & Juliet." I don't believe it's his voice, however. As to the merits of the piece, it got old real fast, but then I'm pushing 40 and was not the target audience. If I'm honest with myself, I'd probably have to admit that at age 16 I would have considered it rather profound. At first, I was shocked when I heard it quite often on L.A.'s KROQ-FM, which is programmed primarily for high schoolers like my oldest daughter, but she assured me that many her age actually liked it, at least before it was played to death. Two statements from the song which I believe qualify as at least mini-pearls of wisdom: "The race is long, and (ultimately) only with yourself" and "your choices are half chance." Larry I in LA Rudgetty@aol.com wrote: > > Now I know, I know. I have just gained a reputation for bringing nothing to > this list, except maybe the occasional praise of Patty and unneeded comments > on split ends and castration. However, I just heard this great spoken word > song on the radio, and I loved it. It was a kind of rip off of Kurt Vonnegut's > Speech, I think it's called, "Everyone's free to wear sunscreen." I like it. > My mom and I were listening to it together, and we both got a wee bit teary > eyed. It just does that to you. Has anyone else heard it? My friends say it's > corny...I still like it. What do you learned folk think? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:52:43 -0700 From: L & C Israelson Subject: Re: MM: patty question I love this line as well, which may have been separated at birth from the following lyric from Elvis Costello's "New Lace Sleeves": "You never see the lies that you believe" Larry I in LA Ronda Blacksher wrote: > > "If you had the real thing, how would you tell? Liars can say it all just > as well." > > Beautiful. > > Ronda > > At 09:36 AM 4/1/99 -0500, Gould, Rachel L. wrote: > >i hear you on that. > >literally my favorite song by patty, along with "not alone". > > ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:53:01 -0700 From: L & C Israelson Subject: MM: Favorite Patty Lyrics Two of my top three have already been mentioned multiple times: the "count your ribs" line from "Poor Man's House" and the heartbreaking segment from "Goodbye" that concludes with "Sometimes they just look away." Here's the one I haven't seen yet, from "Moses": I don't necessarily buy Any key to the future or happiness but I Need a little place in the sun sometimes Or think I will die As somebody else pointed out, it's not just the words but the delivery, too. Pure yearning. Larry I in LA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:09:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Linus Gelber Subject: MM: Wear Sunscreen Rudgetty@aol.com wrote: > I just heard this great spoken word song on the radio, and I loved it. > It was a kind of rip off of Kurt Vonnegut's Speech, I think it's called, > "Everyone's free to wear sunscreen." I like it. My mom and I were > listening to it together, and we both got a wee bit teary eyed. It just > does that to you. Has anyone else heard it? My friends say it's > corny...I still like it. What do you learned folk think? I might be late with this--I've been a bit heavy on the delete key of late - --but Kurt Vonnegut has nothing to do with this song and never did have anything to do with it; he never spoke at that graduation, and he never wrote any part of the screed. Just another Internet fraud. The song and the supposed Vonnegut speech are actually lightly adapted from a newspaper column (from Chicago, I'm remembering, but that might not be right). I like the song. But then I don't listen to the radio, and would probably be driven shrieking mad if I were to hear it more than twice a week. Which is basically why I don't listen to radio. Ciao - Linus Linus Gelber > Home Office Records: 10-gauge indie linus@panix.com < Please visit us at http://www.web-ho.com boss@web-ho.com > New releases by The Cucumbers, Pawnshop cyrano@nycbeer.org < and RAW Kinder are now as real as real! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 08:21:18 PDT From: "Shelley Miller" Subject: Re: MM: Wear Sunscreen On this whole Sunscreen thing...regardless of who wrote it originally and who's hands its passed through on the way, I just don't think that its that interesting...if you like spoken word put to music, check out Joy Harjo and Poetic Justice--it's her reading 10 of the poems from her three books with a band. What they do goes so far beyond the bland-public-service-announcement approach that the Sunscreen thing takes. In any case, enough blathering...back to Patty. Peace, Shelley Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:48:49 PDT From: "Nancy Micciulla" Subject: MM: boring sob story, but partly patty okay. . . so last night i received a dear john phone call from my short term but very cared for boyfriend. and as i sat there crying for a while, i decided i should put some music on. . .and of course, the first thing i listened to was patty. first, let him fly, then nobody crying, peter pan, goodbye, and then i continued with the rest of my i've-just-broken-up music. and i'm not exactly sure why i decided to tell all of you this, because you have other things to think about. . .but i guess i just wanted to share with all of you how patty's music has really had an impact on me and helped me through some tough stuff. but right now i need a nap. . .it was a rough night. thanks for listening. nancy Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:49:15 PDT From: "Nancy Micciulla" Subject: MM: boring sob story, but partly patty okay. . . so last night i received a dear john phone call from my short term but very cared for boyfriend. and as i sat there crying for a while, i decided i should put some music on. . .and of course, the first thing i listened to was patty. first, let him fly, then nobody crying, peter pan, goodbye, and then i continued with the rest of my i've-just-broken-up music. and i'm not exactly sure why i decided to tell all of you this, because you have other things to think about. . .but i guess i just wanted to share with all of you how patty's music has really had an impact on me and helped me through some tough stuff. but right now i need a nap. . .it was a rough night. thanks for listening. nancy Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Wendy J Subject: Re: MM: sob story, but partly patty nancy (and all MMers), thank you for your post!! i chuckled when i read, b/c i also received a "dear john" phone call not too long ago....and like you, have reaped a certain solace from patty and others who have turned their heartbreak into music. thank goddess for poets with broken hearts! stay strong, sister! - --- Nancy Micciulla wrote: > okay. . . so last night i received a dear john phone > call from my short > term but very cared for boyfriend. and as i sat > there crying for a > while, i decided i should put some music on. . .and > of course, the first > thing i listened to was patty. first, let him fly, > then nobody crying, > peter pan, goodbye, and then i continued with the > rest of my > i've-just-broken-up music. and i'm not exactly sure > why i decided to > tell all of you this, because you have other things > to think about. . > .but i guess i just wanted to share with all of you > how patty's music > has really had an impact on me and helped me through > some tough stuff. > but right now i need a nap. . .it was a rough night. > thanks for > listening. > nancy > Get Your Private, Free Email at > http://www.hotmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:01:46 -0500 From: "Paquin, John" Subject: RE: MM: sob story, but partly patty Wendy J. wrote: >> thank goddess for poets with broken hearts VERY well said, Wendy! - -john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:31:47 PDT From: "Sean Palen" Subject: MM: patty on ebay MMers Was just going through eBay, and there's a cd single promo of One Big Love, it has three different versions of the song on there, here's the adress, looks pretty nice for a collector. http://search.ebay.com/cgi-bin/texis/ebay/results.html?cobrandpartner=x&maxRecordsPerPage=100&tc=&category1=304&textonly=n&query=griffin&SortProperty=MetaEndSort Just thought I would let you know take it easy sean Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:35:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Wendy J Subject: Re: MM: sob story, but partly patty Darren, from the list sent this to me but I'm pretty sure he meant to send it to the group, so i'm reposting. I LOVE your choice of patty lyrics, D! Very approrpiate! From:"Darren" Subject:Re: MM: sob story, but partly patty Date:Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:13:11 -0400 Darren wrote: Seems the only time I write poety is when my heart is broken. :-) For the past month, my patty listening has gone up dramatically for the same reason you are listening right now. Biggest problem is that my recently Ex-Girlfriend is the one who introduced me to Patty and bought LWG and FR for me. So EVERYTIME I listen, I can't help but think of her. Remember Nancy, Time will tell you baby, What you can't hear now..... - --- Wendy J wrote: > > nancy (and all MMers), > thank you for your post!! i chuckled when i read, > b/c > i also received a "dear john" phone call not too > long > ago....and like you, have reaped a certain solace > from > patty and others who have turned their heartbreak > into music. thank goddess for poets with > broken hearts! > > stay strong, sister! > > > --- Nancy Micciulla wrote: > > okay. . . so last night i received a dear john > phone > > call from my short > > term but very cared for boyfriend. and as i sat > > there crying for a > > while, i decided i should put some music on. . > .and > > of course, the first > > thing i listened to was patty. first, let him > fly, > > then nobody crying, > > peter pan, goodbye, and then i continued with the > > rest of my > > i've-just-broken-up music. and i'm not exactly > sure > > why i decided to > > tell all of you this, because you have other > things > > to think about. . > > .but i guess i just wanted to share with all of > you > > how patty's music > > has really had an impact on me and helped me > through > > some tough stuff. > > but right now i need a nap. . .it was a rough > night. > > thanks for > > listening. > > nancy > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:23:04 -0700 From: "Victoria Chenevey" Subject: MM: Re: boring sob story, but partly patty LWG is the perfect album for the just broken up. I discovered it during my divorce, and it quickly became my favorite. "Let Him Fly" was particularly appropriate, even tho it was I that initiated the break up. And every lyric in "Every Lit Bit"...when I first saw Patty with a band, and heard them do that tune, it was so powerful and had so much energy, and I just loved it with a band. Can't say that about any other LWG tune. And Nancy, Deepak Chopra says that spirit has a good outcome for us in any situation, we just need to be open to it. I hope you find your good outcome soon, but in the meantime LWG is the way to go. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 05:49:53 PDT From: "Sean Palen" Subject: Re: MM: helpfull press >From: Mudhoney49@aol.com >To: sean_palen@hotmail.com, mad-mission@smoe.org >Subject: Re: MM: helpfull press >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:43:17 EDT > >In a message dated 4/5/99 5:10:26 PM, sean_palen@hotmail.com writes: > >>Hey MMers >> >>Just found out that David Wilcox has a new cd out called Underneath. >>Upon searching the "other cds like this one" category, I found PGs >>Living with ghosts right bebeath Lucinda Williams. Pretty good >>company,take it easy > > >This is pointless to say, but I am a HUGE Lu fan and I am so thrilled to >see Patty touring with Lucinda-a friend of mine lives in DC and I'm so >jealous that he's going to see Patty opening for Lu May 3rd. I think the >two of them suit each other. > >Hayley > Hey all, Just thought I would clarify, when I said she was right BENEATH Lucinda Williams, I literally meant it, the page was in a list format, she was listed directly below her, it had nothing to do with overall talent or my opinion on anyone.Take it easy, Sean Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:07:35 -0500 From: Chris Chan Subject: MM: tix for this Sat.'s show hi everyone, This is my first post. I love Patty's music and hope to see here this Sat. in Round Rock. I have a question for all of yall though. Does anyone know info on where and how to get tix to this fest? Pretty obvious what my fav lyric is. :) BTW, I feel for ya Nancy. Hasta! Chris "you know you've done enough when every bone is sore, you know you've prayed enough when you don't ask anymore, you know you're coming to some kind of understanding, when every dream you've dreamed has passed and you're still standing." - --Patty Griffin ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V3 #94 ********************************