From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #347 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, November 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 347 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Re: Patty in Austin [Jeff Dunnam ] Re: MM: Re: Patty in Austin [jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson)] RE: MM: Re: Patty in Austin (vocal style) [Mark Cicero ] Re: MM: Foaming Mouths and Magic Patty Dust... [Joshua Lilley ] MM: Re: Kosmic Blues and Jose Cuervo ["Victoria Chenevey" ] Re: MM: Re: Kosmic Blues and Jose Cuervo [Joshua Lilley ] [none] [Heather R Keenan ] Re: MM: Foaming Mouths and Magic Patty Dust... [UMCaner74@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:07:42 -0500 From: Jeff Dunnam Subject: MM: Re: Patty in Austin One thing about Patty struck me at both the in-store and the concert. That is about how she is constantly vocalizing, not exactly scatting so to speak, but more like being her own backup singer. I hadn't really noticed it all that much on FR, but I intend to go back and listen. Before anyone writes back with examples such as the ending of "Tony", I am talking about more subtle vocalizing. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:16:14 -0800 From: jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson) Subject: Re: MM: Re: Patty in Austin This is true there are quite a few songs she does this on, I cant really think of them right now but it's cool its like there is always something going on whether its a little riff or mimicking what she just said, but I have noticed and it makes for a great flow of the song. Patty RULES GO PATTY. Love and Music, Jessica Jeff Dunnam wrote: > One thing about Patty struck me at both the in-store and the concert. > That is about how she is constantly vocalizing, not exactly scatting so > to speak, but more like being her own backup singer. I hadn't really > noticed it all that much on FR, but I intend to go back and listen. > Before anyone writes back with examples such as the ending of "Tony", I > am talking about more subtle vocalizing. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:30:42 -0600 From: Mark Cicero Subject: RE: MM: Re: Patty in Austin (vocal style) If one listens closely to the version of "Cain" from the Lillith Fair CD you can hear Patty sort of vocalizing in the backround inbetween verses, however it remains subtley in the backround as she has apparently stepped back from the mike. Yea she does this alot. Regards, Mark Nashville,TN - -----Original Message----- From: "jessica.sampson@ sbaor.com" @SMTP (Jessica Sampson ) Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 9:16 PM To: swiman@ hypercon.com@SMTP Cc: mad-mission@ smoe.org@SMTP Subject: Re: MM: Re: Patty in Austin *** TFS Evaluation Copy of module : Novell GroupWise *** This is true there are quite a few songs she does this on, I cant really think of them right now but it's cool its like there is always something going on whether its a little riff or mimicking what she just said, but I have noticed and it makes for a great flow of the song. Patty RULES GO PATTY. Love and Music, Jessica Jeff Dunnam wrote: > One thing about Patty struck me at both the in-store and the concert. > That is about how she is constantly vocalizing, not exactly scatting so > to speak, but more like being her own backup singer. I hadn't really > noticed it all that much on FR, but I intend to go back and listen. > Before anyone writes back with examples such as the ending of "Tony", I > am talking about more subtle vocalizing. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:13:50 -0800 From: "Laine Proctor" Subject: MM: RE: yeah Paul! More stories! Paul, I totally agree. I'm in Oakland crossing my calluses that Patty will work her way over here real soon. I love and appreciate all the stories and the time that their authors have taken to tell them. Thanks guys and gals (esp. Josh!!!). Laine > > ME LIKES ALL THE PATTY GRIFFIN CONCERT STORIES!!!! Maybe Ms. > Griffin will fart over in this direction sometime in the next twenty > years, but I don't see her appearance likely. :( So the stories are the > next best thing, like I'm there dude. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:46:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Joshua Lilley Subject: Re: MM: Foaming Mouths and Magic Patty Dust... Dear Dave, I don't think you are an obsessed fan. I just want to second that idea of yours. About how when I stepped near Patty is was just funny cause she is just kinda sincerely beautiful. When a woman can sing, I just melt. There is no more powerful attraction for my heart than the voice of a woman singing to me. That's it. I'm easy, I know. And that coupled with Patty's apparent gentleness...oh, jeez...I don't know. I am fawning, yes, I know...but come on!!!! Who doesn't agree???? PATTY IS COMPLETELY CAPTIVATING!!!!! 'Nuff said... Josh On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 UMCaner74@aol.com wrote: > Joshua, > > WOW...that was a treat..great wonderful story! Are you a journalism major?? > Anyway, I agree that everyone should be fortunate enough to be graced with > Patty's smile at least once in their life. It is truly one of the most > beautiful and peaceful things I've ever seen. I too, got that anxious feeling > and had to look away when she looked into my eyes. The fact that I couldn't > breathe or speak in complete sentences seemed to amuse her...what is it about > her?? I had met her once before maybe a year and 1/2 ago, and even though she > was very pleasant, and adorable, she didn't have THIS effect on me then..I > spoke to her easily and I was actually proud of how well I did considering how > much I loved her. Something has changed since the 1st time I met her. Maybe > it's her, or maybe it's the way I look up to her. It's like she is this > superhuman angel or something. When she smiles at you and looks you in the > eye..there aren't even words to explain that. When she put her arm around me > for our picture I could barely even smile, and instead of putting my arm > around her..I just stood there and smiled like I was about to pass out..Which > I probably was..I just don't get it. She's so pleasant and does nothing to > make you feel uncomfortable in any way. Maybe that's exactly it, she not only > meets our high expectations of her, but exceeds them by how adorable and how > lovely she is with all of her fans. Anyway, I'm going to stop now before > someone starts to think I'm Obsessed!! > > Dave > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:03:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Joshua Lilley Subject: MM: Kosmic Blues and Jose Cuervo Fellows... So there I was, sitting plushly on a leather bean bag and chillin' out on the tour bus, with Patty to my right and the boys from the band cast throughout the remaining empty seats, throwing back Margaritas and retelling those old faded stories of the good old days when rock was king, love was free, and everybody was riding The Train towards a sweet golden sunset marinated in inhibition. The lights were just dim enough to advance those time-worn memories into the inner folds of nostalgia and no one was at a loss for words. And where words eventually did fail, you'd hear somebody belt an aged rock ballad melody from across the bus and as it landed in our welcoming ears, fueled by the margaritas, we'd belt a raunchy "Hell Yeah!" right on back. Sweet baby Janis was singing "Kosmic Blues" on the stereo, and Patty, me and the band were singing back to her, our voices amplified by the presence of our other dear sweet friend, Jose Cuervo. Smoke caked the air and bled through the cracked windows, tinted, concealing all our gloriously crafted revelry. It was a Holy smoke. The kind that emanates from a well fed and soulfull congregation of individuals who love music, love life, and who see no ideas of false tranquilities reverberating in their own inner music hall. This was real fun. This was real spirituality, or at least we were sharing something applicable, a toasty sense of relating our day to day to our festive spirit. Then again, perhaps is was just spirituous. At any rate, it was top shelf stuff, whatever it was, and I was as happy as country dog swimming in the creek. And then I woke up. Damn my incontinence. The concert, I felt, left something to be desired, like, a shot gun, ear plugs, morphine and a close friendship to the sound egineer. No, maybe a bow and arrow. That seems like it would kill slower. All, of course, for the Iodine set. My greatest impulse is to say that Iodine is one of those enigmas that I am urged to buy on CD, but never, ever, ever, see in concert again. They were far beyond loud. And I am a young buck of the age of 21. This is not suppose to be a problem for me. However, none of them spark images of weasels in my mind. So, they get props for that. And at one point Patty came out to join them and she stood there on stage. It was great just watching her stand there on stage. It really did something for the set, just having Patty stand there on stage while the band played. I highly recommend that if you are in a band, and you play bowel-movement-inducingly toooooo loud, that you hire Patty Griffin to stand on stage with you. And perhaps you could pay her a little more and she will then not only stand up there with you but she will move her mouth in close proximity to a microphone. It will definitely do something for your band. Oh,...I'm sorry...Was Patty singing? Oh, I couldn't tell!!!!!! But enough of my astute observations...Just remember that I did say that I would buy their CD...especially when there are Rabid Ninjas to be destroyed. Patty's set, alas, also left me wishing I was back at Tower, inspite of Jeff's foaming mouth. My favorite song, Tony, seemed a bit less zesty with the band at the evenings concert. It sounded hindered and in general I think the whole thing lacked that truculence that, say, "CAIN", displays. So,...is she worth it. HELL YEAH! Undoubtedly...but, oh, I guess you can just shuffle me into that deck of MMs who want more Patty, less of everything else...And, yes, her solo set was the best of the evening. Especially her lower, smokey rendition of Mad Mission...ummmmmm...oh, god, I love that low and breathy thing she does....ummm. Good Lord, the woman can sing... ONE THING I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT!!!!!!!!!! Patty is now a dancing show!!!!! She is plugged in, She is electric, she is EXCITING. I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC BEHIND JUST SITTING AND LISTENING AT A CONCERT WHEN THERE ARE SONGS THAT REQUIRE YOUR BODY TO MOVE....YOU GET MORE FOR YOU MONEY FOLKS!!!! GET THE HELL UP, IF YOU CAN, AND MOVE A LITTLE. JEEEEZ!!!! The crowd, except for those few of us standing in the back, looked like a sea of corpse. I couldn't stop swaying back and forth, at the VERY LEAST. And, PLEASE, WHAT THE HELL WAS UP WITH HAVING CHAIRS????????????? Take One Patty Griffin, Ten Patty Griffin Songs, One empty Ballroom floor. Three Hundred Patty Fans, Some kickin wattage... Toss them together, stir rapidly, and spill out onto the floor. THAT IS WHAT I WANT!!!!!!! I want to have to worry about sweat when I go to a concert. And don't tell it can't be done at concert's like her's. When I go and see the Indigo Girls, the concert is one big party...Most people dance, jump up and down...it is like a celebration...and I love that. I hate sitting down, I hate just staring at the artist, I hate just listening. I can do that at home. Look, she is performing for us, this time is ours to celebrate and enjoy. YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO MOVE AROUND...SO DO IT. It is just so much fun..... Josh "Flash Dance" Lilley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:20:56 -0800 From: "Victoria Chenevey" Subject: MM: Re: Kosmic Blues and Jose Cuervo Josh, I totally agree with dancing at concerts. If the music doesn't *move* me and make me want to *move*, why am I there? A couple years ago I saw Joan Osborne at the Wiltern Theatre in LA (great place), and EVERYONE was sitting quietly. What's up with that? Finally, Joan admonished the crowd to DANCE, and starting taking Polaroid pictures of the audience, which she threw into the crowd. Finally people got up and enjoyed themselves. I truly believe that the artist on stage wants to see the crowd *enjoying* the music, too. Otherwise, they could stay in the recording studio. Fortunately, both times I've seen Patty (at the Troubadour and HOB), there were NO chairs! And we had one helluva time! Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:00:27 -0800 (PST) From: David Doody Subject: Re: MM: Re: Kosmic Blues and Jose Cuervo On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Victoria Chenevey wrote: > Josh, I totally agree with dancing at concerts. If the music doesn't *move* > me and make me want to *move*, why am I there? To me, it all depends on the concert. I certainly don't want to get up and dance if I'm at a symphony concert. But I still think it's worth going... Similarly, it's kinda hard to dance to a lot of my favorite music. But to experience it live is bliss. To sit in the audience while the music of Jonatha Brooke or acoustic Patty washes over me is pretty freaking amazing. And to have to deal with flailing arms and people bumping into me would diminish that experience somewhat. That being said, I've been annoyed to no end on several occasions when I've just *had* to dance (particularly to Indigo Girls songs) and people behind me didn't stand up. So I can understand both sides. It all depends on the situation. > I truly believe that the artist on stage wants to see the crowd > *enjoying* the music, too. And it's perfectly acceptable for one to enjoy music without dancing to it... > Otherwise, they could stay in the recording studio. Big, *big* difference. I could argue the opposite...that if you're gonna dance, you might as well just be listening to a recording. To fully enjoy the live music, you'd be better off focusing all your energy on listening and watching the live performer. Obviously, there's no right or wrong answer here. Just wanted to stick up for those of us who enjoy sitting at some concerts and don't find it necessary to dance at every show... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:16:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Joshua Lilley Subject: Re: MM: Re: Kosmic Blues and Jose Cuervo Dave, Surely you didn't conclude that I advocate dancing at Symphony Hall... Well,...actually..I can think of quite a few classical works that I would enjoy ten times as much if I were allowed to dance and jump and flail around... My body works like this. When I am sitting, the faucet is off. When I stand, the faucet is on. Sitting somehow physically cuts off a large part of my FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELING for art and music and whatnot. I'd rather stand when I sing, it feels more complete. I'd rather stand when I go to a concert, cause it frees my body to act upon the urges for movement I feel. I sense that as the body is the base for all physical enjoyment, and that since my body clearly is compelled to move cause it enjoys movement, then let er rip.... But, more so...Have you seen Patty's show lately? I think with the addition of the body of songs from Flaming Red it CALLS for dancing more that 60% of the time. I want to see people jumping and I want to see air guitar and I want to see syncopated foot movement... Cause that is how I let the Artist WASH over me. Clearly though, when Amy and Emily begin to sing Everything In Its Own Time, you need to be still, you need to calm down, maybe even sit down if you are tired... jkl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:29:15 -0500 (EST) From: Heather R Keenan Subject: [none] hello...if anyone is interested in making a tape trade with patty griffin....i am interested in any patty concerts availbale...hmmm-->love her!! the only tape i have now is in new hampshire '97 and world cafe '97....but i also can offer a variety of jeweland natalie merchant tapes...and ani difranco, ben folds five, and indigo girls.....if anyone is interested in making a trade...let me know.... ~*~ heather ~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:36:21 EST From: UMCaner74@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Foaming Mouths and Magic Patty Dust... Joshua, You and I have something in common then. All I need to melt is a woman with a beautiful voice singing to me, if they are as gentle and sweet as Patty..well that doesn't hurt things at all! Not that those are the only qualities that are important to me, but those are very high on my list as far as a 1st impression, or 1st thing to attract me to a woman. She need not have a so called beautiful body, she need not be "gorgeous" in any way physically. If she has that gentle, sweet smile and personality, and if by chance she can sing like Patty...well she's incredibly beautiful to me. Someone that I would cherish more than any Model type woman. Patty is absolutely the most amazing person I've ever met. Dave ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #347 *********************************