From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #313 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, October 22 1998 Volume 02 : Number 313 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Re[2]: MM: Pittsburgh and Iodine do not mix!!!!!!! [LWalshPGH@aol.com] Re: MM: tshirts [jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson)] MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #312 [AloanStar@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J] Re: MM: patty shirts [JohnRN24@aol.com] Re: MM: tshirts [ASIS143@aol.com] MM: Excessive Volume [stephenu@webtv.net (Stephen Underwood)] Re: MM: tshirts [JohnRN24@aol.com] Re: MM: Tony [JohnRN24@aol.com] Re: MM: tshirts [jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson)] MM: Re: tshirts ["Eric Southward" ] MM: JUST A QUESTION.... [Joshua Lilley ] Re: MM: Excessive Volume [David Lewis ] MM: sexually repressed priests??? [Pretty Silver Grrrl > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:25:54 -0700 From: jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson) Subject: Re: MM: tshirts Lamia, YES, I would be able to back you up on this, if you wanted or even needed a backup person!!! It sounds like a great idea, and it would be very cool!! Then Patty would really know were serious here ha ha! Mad Mission Patty shirts totally cool. Lets find out. Jessica Pretty Silver Grrrl wrote: > ok ya'll..since everyone seems like they want a T-shirt I wanted to > say..it is possible to get patty tshirts made. Like for everyone on > the list..but it's pretty complicated. > Some friend of mine had a tori amos shirt made to benefit RAINN and > what you have to do to be able to use an artist's name is, first you > have to get an ok from the management. > If you want to use a picture you have to get permission from patty or > her management, and from the photographer. > If anyone knows how to get in touch with them to ask, and if everyone > could decide on a picture, and enough people want one, I would handle > the details on getting it done.. > if everyone is interested! > > *HUGS* > > Lamia > > == > "Love demands expression. > I will not stay still, stay silent, > Be good, be modest, be seen and not heard, NO!... > A precise emotion seeks a precise expression. > If what I feel is not precise then should I call it love?" > --Jeanette Winterson, Writen on the Body > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:25:51 -0400 (EDT) From: AloanStar@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=F1e_Pugh?=) Subject: MM: Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #312 I have to say this...I can't stop myself! I have had the chance to see Patty twice in the last 5 months, here in Boston, and I have loved every minute of both shows. I saw her prior to FR, in VA...once opening for Shawn Colvin and a week later at a small club in VA Beach....she played her heart out then, just as she plays her heart out now. The only change I see from Patty during the LWG days and now the FR days is that she is appears much more comfortable with having her band up on stage with her. She used to seem timid and exposed. Now she dances and waves her arms and seems to really be into the whole stage performance. She is great with or without her band. But if she really feels the need for the band, then I can only say "more power to her!" She is amazing and she can do no wrong as far as I am concerned. I would put her up against any artist, past or present. She will never lose me as a fan and she can't turn up the volume loud enough for me.....the louder she is, the better. I turn her up at home and smile just knowing I have her music in my life. Can't imagine not having it now! Just my opinion. Jeanñe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:55:19 EDT From: JohnRN24@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: patty shirts I think I know the Patty shirts you guys are talkin' about. I live in Toledo and here we have a store called Boogie Records. When F R came out, they were givin' away shirts to anyone who bought the album. I already had the album, but after begging and pleading, they gave me one with the purchase of a Tori Amos import I was there to buy in the first place. White shirt, red/orange ring for a collar, Flaming Red written across the front in what looks like an iron-on design. Nothing about The Mad Mission on the shirt though. :-) John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:02:57 EDT From: ASIS143@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: tshirts i think this is a really good idea... a mad-mission shirt...a friend of mine is on the chantal kreviazuk list and they had a cool little contest..what they did was have people design graphics with certain requirements and then they voted on them...i actually designed a few for the contest adn it was fun.. the graphips had to be a certain size and had to include a quote. im sure if we get all the permission that could work out really well, and im sure some one knows someone that oculd mayeb print up some t-shirts...im not sure but i know a guy who used to run a silkscreen company, i dont know if he still does it but i could ask. anyway, thats my idea:) here are a few random ideas for quotes...anyone? It's a mad mission/ but I got the ambition/ mad, mad mission/ sign me up - duh. you must always know how long to stay and when to go - let him fly I don't necessarily buy any key to the future or happiness/ But I need a little place in the sun sometimes or I think I will die - moses I don't believe there is such a thing as saying too much/ There are those who like to look and/ Those who ain't afraid to touch - time will do the talking Can you hear the voice inside you/ It calls you back to where you belong/ Can you see the one beside you/ Who's been standin' there all along - time will do the talking I don't know where I'm going/ I'm just following the lines/There's just no telling where this river will flow - we are water any thoughts? :) kate the patty griffin guitar tab archive - check out the all new look! > ok ya'll..since everyone seems like they want a T-shirt I wanted to > say..it is possible to get patty tshirts made. Like for everyone on > the list..but it's pretty complicated. > Some friend of mine had a tori amos shirt made to benefit RAINN and > what you have to do to be able to use an artist's name is, first you > have to get an ok from the management. > If you want to use a picture you have to get permission from patty or > her management, and from the photographer. > If anyone knows how to get in touch with them to ask, and if everyone > could decide on a picture, and enough people want one, I would handle > the details on getting it done.. > if everyone is interested! > > *HUGS* > > Lamia > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:06:41 -0400 (EDT) From: stephenu@webtv.net (Stephen Underwood) Subject: MM: Excessive Volume I saw Patty in Baltimore back in May.This was one of her first shows with a band.Flaming Red had not been released yet so I had no idea how Patty would sound with a band.She opened up with a couple songs just her and an acoustic guitar and it sounded great.Then the first song she did with the band was "Goodbye".It started out with Patty playing acoustic and one after the other each band member joined in and it really sounded good.I don't remember what the next song was but it was ear piercing.Performance wise all the players were excellent but it was just way too loud.This may be a case of a soundman who has pretty severe hearing loss.I like loud music but when you have pain in your ears that's not good.It sure seems like quite a few people feel the same way.Hopefully the soundman will try to bring the volume down or maybe he should be replaced.When you go to see someone with a voice like Patty's and have trouble hearing it you might as well stay home. Just my opinion, Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:03:59 EDT From: JohnRN24@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: tshirts Great idea... John will need a couple of them (why the h_ll am I speaking in 3rd person?) Neurotically yours.... :-) John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:01:40 EDT From: JohnRN24@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Tony Actually, though "Change" is a wonderful song, I think I once mentioned that "Tony" would be an ideal second single. Though it didn't work out that way, I think that words so powerful, and yet music so radio-friendly were an ideal mix. Thanks to Patty for a wonderful song. :-) John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:21:16 -0700 From: jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson) Subject: Re: MM: tshirts I like the quote from LET HIM FLY " You must always know how long to stay and when to go"---- Jessica ASIS143@aol.com wrote: > i think this is a really good idea... a mad-mission shirt...a friend of mine > is on the chantal kreviazuk list and they had a cool little contest..what they > did was have people design graphics with certain requirements and then they > voted on them...i actually designed a few for the contest adn it was fun.. > the graphips had to be a certain size and had to include a quote. im sure if > we get all the permission that could work out really well, and im sure some > one knows someone that oculd mayeb print up some t-shirts...im not sure but i > know a guy who used to run a silkscreen company, i dont know if he still does > it but i could ask. > anyway, thats my idea:) > > here are a few random ideas for quotes...anyone? > > It's a mad mission/ but I got the ambition/ mad, mad mission/ sign me up - > duh. > > you must always know how long to stay and when to go - let him fly > > I don't necessarily buy any key to the future or happiness/ > But I need a little place in the sun sometimes or I think I will die - moses > > I don't believe there is such a thing as saying too much/ There are those who > like to look and/ Those who ain't afraid to touch - time will do the talking > > Can you hear the voice inside you/ It calls you back to where you belong/ Can > you see the one beside you/ Who's been standin' there all along - time will do > the talking > > I don't know where I'm going/ I'm just following the lines/There's just no > telling where this river will flow - we are water > > any thoughts? > > :) > kate > the patty griffin guitar > tab archive - check out the all new look! > > ok ya'll..since everyone seems like they want a T-shirt I wanted to > > say..it is possible to get patty tshirts made. Like for everyone on > > the list..but it's pretty complicated. > > Some friend of mine had a tori amos shirt made to benefit RAINN and > > what you have to do to be able to use an artist's name is, first you > > have to get an ok from the management. > > If you want to use a picture you have to get permission from patty or > > her management, and from the photographer. > > If anyone knows how to get in touch with them to ask, and if everyone > > could decide on a picture, and enough people want one, I would handle > > the details on getting it done.. > > if everyone is interested! > > > > *HUGS* > > > > Lamia > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:18:40 -0500 From: "Eric Southward" Subject: MM: Re: tshirts Don't want to pull the "law" thing on ya, but you have a valid concern. Due to copyrights and trademarks, make sure you get her management company's okay to use her name and album name since they probably own her copyrights and trademarks on her likeness and for a photo. You are correct - the photographer likely owns that copyright unless her management company made him/her sign it over. They might want you to pay to use this stuff, but since this is a real form of undergraound advertising (plus you don't want to piss off fans), it can only be a benefit for you and them. Just my thoughts - don't take my statements as consituting any legal advice. - -----Original Message----- From: Pretty Silver Grrrl To: mad-mission@smoe.org Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 2:34 PM Subject: MM: tshirts >ok ya'll..since everyone seems like they want a T-shirt I wanted to >say..it is possible to get patty tshirts made. Like for everyone on >the list..but it's pretty complicated. >Some friend of mine had a tori amos shirt made to benefit RAINN and >what you have to do to be able to use an artist's name is, first you >have to get an ok from the management. >If you want to use a picture you have to get permission from patty or >her management, and from the photographer. >If anyone knows how to get in touch with them to ask, and if everyone >could decide on a picture, and enough people want one, I would handle >the details on getting it done.. >if everyone is interested! > >*HUGS* > >Lamia > >== >"Love demands expression. >I will not stay still, stay silent, >Be good, be modest, be seen and not heard, NO!... >A precise emotion seeks a precise expression. >If what I feel is not precise then should I call it love?" >--Jeanette Winterson, Writen on the Body > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:18:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Joshua Lilley Subject: MM: JUST A QUESTION.... Hey, ya'll....I was just wondering...since we participate on this posting fans of Patty thingy here...does it make us Mad Missioners? or Mad Missionaries? Cause, Missioners isn't even a word...I don't think. Cause, if someone asked if I was a part of the Mad Mission, as indicated by Patty's song, I'd say...yeah, sure...and would therefore be a Mad Missionary...but, if they asked if I was a part of this posting organizations thingy...I'd be like, yes, so that would make me a Mad Missioner.... What they hell are we???? Because...if T=shirts are gonna be made someday...I think we should figure this out.... Joshua WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST looked it up in good old Websters Dictionary...and under Missioner it has "MISSIONARY" so I see that they are one and the same...so, I guess we can be either, but it feels like we lean towards Missioners..... And tomorrow, I think I'll try to call Patty's Management and inquire about the usage rights to her name and likeness and the photos. See ya'll, and I'll tell you all what I find out. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:32:52 -0300 From: David Lewis Subject: Re: MM: Excessive Volume [snip] >I like loud music but when you have pain in your ears that's not good. [snip] >Stephen Agreed. Physical pain in one's ears is definitely a very bad thing. It is impossible to enjoy a show when it causes this kind of pain. I can relate as the sound at the MamaKin gig in Boston had *really* bad sound... the problem was not so much the volume as it was the distortion. However, these reports of bad sound are really starting to concern me. What concerns me is that everyone on the list is going to think that the sound at Patty's shows is horrible. It is not. I was at the show in Portland not too long ago and the sound was simple spectacular. It was loud, but not painfully loud. Not at all. And the sound itself was rock solid, smooth as silk without the sligtest hint of distortion. It was a joy to listen to. And I was sitting right in the front row, directly under the loudspeakers. So please, rest assured, that this is not a problem with *all* of Patty's shows... just some. Also, I have met most of the guys in the band and they all seem very cool to me... bass player included. I think the people to talk to if you have a complaint about the sound is the bar management... not the musicians. And by the way, the band was also great in Portland. Great playing. Everything was very tight and polished. I'll post a full review later :) - ------------------------- David Lewis Digital & Print Media Design dlewis@hfx.andara.com - ------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:54:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Pretty Silver Grrrl Subject: MM: sexually repressed priests??? Ok, so I'm thumbing through the Flaming Red press kit that I got in the mail the other day, and it's talking about "wiggley fingers" and said it's about a SEXUALLY REPRESSED PRIEST??? huh? I totally didn't get that from it! any thoughts on this? *HUGS* Lamia == "Love demands expression. I will not stay still, stay silent, Be good, be modest, be seen and not heard, NO!... A precise emotion seeks a precise expression. If what I feel is not precise then should I call it love?" - --Jeanette Winterson, Writen on the Body _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #313 *********************************