From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #250 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Wednesday, August 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 250 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MM: Patty Tablature? [ASIS143@aol.com] MM: MM-not available? [Eric ] MM: Re: Not available? ["C. Soudah" ] MM: Career choices. [Rongrittz@aol.com] MM: Career choices [Eric ] MM: Those Late Starting Times [jarstar@iconn.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:36:13 EDT From: ASIS143@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Patty Tablature? hey! the patty tab page is here.... http://members.tripod.com/~Lifey/patty.html http://members.tripod.com/~Lifey/patty.html i'm still looking for more tabs, if anyone has any please send them to me! :) these are what i have so far... Living With Ghosts Moses Every Little Bit Mad Mission Poor Mans House Forgiveness You Never Get What You Want Sweet Lorraine Flaming Red Tony (acoustic) Covers, etc... Crazy Stolen Car i welcome comments, suggestions:) thanks:) kate http://members.tripod.com/~Lifey/index.html > Sorry if this has been covered before, but does anyone know of a website > that has Tablature for the songs from Living With Ghosts? Thanks... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:59:46 -0700 From: Eric Subject: MM: MM-not available? Just a note to mention that Patty's first cd - 'Living with Ghosts' is not available at any of the HMV music stores in Canada which i have checked. In fact i could not find it in any music store....I guess if they got enough requests they may stock it.....but frankly, that's no good. - Flaming Red is well stocked. (one would hope...) Naturally sales of her first cd would increase with the interest in Flame. I thought Michael Baker would want to know...... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:03:24 -0800 From: "C. Soudah" Subject: MM: Re: Not available? >>>>>>Just a note to mention that Patty's first cd - 'Living with Ghosts' is not available at any of the HMV music stores in Canada which i have checked. In fact i could not find it in any music store....I guess if they got enough requests they may stock it.....but frankly, that's no good. - Flaming Red is well stocked. (one would hope...) Naturally sales of her first cd would increase with the interest in Flame. I thought Michael Baker would want to know...... >>>>>>>>> Living with Ghosts is not that easy to find in the states either for that matter, well at least in good old Top 40 Los Angeles it can be difficult. It has become a bit more accessible with the release of FR, but I usually dig in used CD stores and mom & pop shops for these types of "rarities." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:52:46 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: MM: Career choices. << - -Well, what is to become of Patty if she remains solo? Do you know any solo artists which do much more than scrape out a living? Patty NEEDS a band to compete and to get airplay thereby getting her music to the masses which = record sales. >> Hey, don't get me wrong here, I'm not for a MINUTE suggesting that Patty should have remained a solo artist. Even I, a dyed-in-the-wool folkie, understand the limitations that would involve. And I like "acoustic music with a band" as much as the next guy. But my question was this: did she have to go SO far in the other direction? And again, don't get me wrong: I am a huge fan of "FR." And that's my point: do you think that "FR" will gain PG the NEW audience she'll need to make it big, or will she get lost in the Cole/Morrissette/Apple cart? Because to the Great Unwashed, I'm afraid she'll wind up being nothing more than This Week's Flavor. And I'd rather she be a big fish in a small pond than the opposite. "LWG" is one of the great acoustic albums of all time,and I can't think of a single bad review I've ever read of it. Yet as much as I love "FR," it's not one of the great rock albums of all time, and frankly, the reviews of it and her live show have been mixed. And therein lies my concern. So, in a nutshell, my question remains: would "LWG, Volume II" (meaning heartfelt acoustic music with a band) have been a better idea, career-wise, than the souped-up "FR?" Ron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:34:50 -0700 From: Eric Subject: MM: Career choices Hi, Yes, I was under the impression you meant 'NO band' at all. I think that would be a mistake. I see what you mean now Ron. PG would do very well in the 'James Taylor' arrangement arena as well, yes. In fact, it is her slower songs which appeal most to me. Mind you, she can rock. I am not convinced however that the likes of say, Paula Cole, is in any danger of being a flavor of the month. I think powerful writers like Paula & Patty will last and grow. Flavors of the month tend to be weaker writers with only one or two singles. Writers whose second albums' crash. I think Patty is powerful enough to grow and last in either genre. I wish her all the best. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:51:53 -0400 From: jarstar@iconn.net Subject: MM: Those Late Starting Times This relates to the recent posts about 8 o'clock door openings being followed by three hours of waiting for Patty to come out and play. I may be totally off base because I have never been to either the Bowery Ballroom or Mama Kin, so I don't know if they are venues that serve liquor, but I have been involved in bars over the years, with entertainment as part of the offerings. Clubs that serve liquor like to make money off the bar. One way to do that is to open the doors well before they intend to shove anyone out on stage, and make you while away the time drinking their overpriced liquor. Start times are sometimes calculated so that the second round is ordered before the first performer sings a note. Covers charges do not a lucrative club make. Heavy drinkers can. It's all part of the plan. People like me who hate to wait arrive late and wiggle or charm our way into a good spot ;) I also laughed a little at people complaining about there being opening acts for Patty. Wasn't she the opening act on a couple of major tours this summer? - --Jane NP: Lyle Lovett: Joshua Judges Ruth ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #250 *********************************