From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #234 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, August 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 234 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: Singles release is business decision ["william gannon" ] Re: MM: Singles release is business decision [CornflkGl@aol.com] MM: Likely single . . . [Rongrittz@aol.com] MM: The all-important second single... [mhertz@sirius.com (Marc Hertz)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:41:02 -0700 From: "william gannon" Subject: MM: Singles release is business decision Hello everyone, I think all this talk about what should be the next single is a little silly. While it would be nice for everyone to have their favorite song, or the song that means the most to them be released, everyone has to keep in mind that the recording business is just that; a business. Singles are picked on their appeal to the widest audience possible, a decision that benefits not only the record company, but dare I say, the artist as well, unless you are of the mind that success spoils the art and should not be a goal. That being said, the new single should no doubt be Blue Sky. Peace, Patrick Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:21:28 -0700 From: coyoteblue@kincyb.com Subject: MM: Next single My pics for next single: 1) Wiggley Fingers... it RAWKS! 2) Tony... for reasons already mentioned 3) Blue Sky ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:14:36 -0500 From: "Bill Diekmann" Subject: MM: 2nd AND 3rd single Mimi gave us three choices for 2nd 3rd and 4th singles. My pick for third wasn't on there....Christina. I'm basing my decisions on commercialism to get Patty noticed and heard. They are in no way, shape, or form, my favorite tracks. I voted for Blue Sky second (Actually, I said this quite some time ago when everyone was voting for Tony) next I would say Christina. It is still very radio friendly, but I feel shows a slightly different side of Patty. Actually, if the songs were released in this order, OBL , Blue Sky, Christina, I would predict that the first two would generate the interest, and Christina would be Pattys breakout "hit" This goes against the record companies formula, but what the hell do they know BTW, sorry about the fluff comment. I forgot for a sec I was posting to the list. BTW2, for the record, Go Now is by far my favorite song on the CD. Her vocals are awesome on that song. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:47:52 EDT From: CornflkGl@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Singles release is business decision In a message dated 8/12/98 9:40:29 PM, you wrote: << I think all this talk about what should be the next single is a little silly. While it would be nice for everyone to have their favorite song, or the song that means the most to them be released, everyone has to keep in mind that the recording business is just that; a business. >> Then why don't you tell Patty's manager that HIS idea was "silly", and he was "silly" for asking us our opinion. Sheesh. Rachel :/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:06:29 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: MM: Likely single . . . IMHO, I'd pull out all the stops and go for broke with "Tony." Look, let's not kid ourselves. Patty's a wonderful writer, an incredible singer, a dynamic entertainer, and she deserves success more than all get-out. But in order to really break through these days, it takes more than talent. It takes a jenny-say-qua, as we say in French. You have to wear a nose-ring and have a novelty song about God. Or you have to have a particularly vocal and visible niche audience. Or you have to pay your dues for years, then finally break through with a song about a women who burns her house down. Or you have to be a snaggle-toothed waif from Alaska who yodels and lives in her car. Or you have to have great legs and date Eric Clapton. (In order, for those of you who want to play along: Joan Osborne, Indigo Girls, Shawn Colvin, Jewel, Sheryl Crow). And as nice as "Blue Sky" is . . . or as melodic as "Carry Me" is . . . or as sweet as "Christina" is . . . or as mind-numbingly beautiful as "Mary" is . . . or as gut-crunching as "Flaming Red" is . . . they won't get Patty the one thing that would push her over the edge, and that's . . . notoriety. "Tony" will get her that, in spades. It will get her on the news. It will get her an article in "People Magazine." It may even get WalMart to boycott her CD. All of which are great things for someone trying to maneuver the obstacle course that is today's cold, calculated music business. Let's make 'em stand up and take notice. Release "Tony" and blow 'em away. This song matters. This song cooks. This song is beautiful. This song has a hook that grabs you by the nuts (whether or not you have 'em) and doesn't let go. This song deserves to be heard, and anyone who it offends doesn't deserve Patty anyway. And if we play it safe with "Blue Sky" or "Christina" or something else (except, perhaps, for "Wiggley Fingers") we might not get a second chance. You see, when you try to be everything to everyone, you run the risk of being nothing to no one. Ron, who plans to wear a "RELEASE TONY" T-shirt at the Bowery Ballroom on Tuesday (just kidding, but it seeeeems like a good idea, eh?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:35:18 -1000 From: mhertz@sirius.com (Marc Hertz) Subject: MM: The all-important second single... I've had a tough time with this one. My initial thought was "Blue Sky" because it's such a catchy song, even though my personal favorite song is "Tony". I figured 'faggot' (of course) would scare people away from it and if there's anything I wouldn't want to happen is for people to not listen to her because of one word. I read all the discussions (weeding through the 70 or so emails) about the music biz, radio-friendly, blah, blah, blah. It's all true, of course, but sometimes you gotta go with your gut on things. If there's anything that fans of Patty appreciate her for is her songwriting, mainly due to her brutal honesty. I used to write a column every two weeks in a daily newspaper and tried my best to shy away from writing 'fluff' pieces, wanting instead to challenge people every so often. It's not easy to do, because you're putting yourself out there, naked to the elements, which Patty would be doing as well with "Tony", but how else do you get remembered, and, more to the point, respected. And, at the same time, I also agree that, from a marketing standpoint, controversy sells. I wouldn't want her to release it for that reason, but it might be a nice icing on the cake sort of deal. Plus, I also agree that "Blue Sky" is much more a summer song, so definitely wait til '99 on that one. Whatever happens, Patty's being heard more and will continue to be heard, and that, for me, makes all the difference. After having finally met her a few weeks back (my first official 'groupie' experience), I'm more of a fan than ever and wish her and the band the greatest success (though I'm hoping for some acoustic songs the next time she comes - that's me, never satisfied). Marc ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #234 *********************************