From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #208 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Thursday, July 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 208 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: a couple of things.... [NomiM@aol.com] Re: MM: a couple of things.... [David Lewis ] Re: MM: a couple of things.... [elaine bean ] Re: MM: a couple of things... [dana ] MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara [Stevshep2@aol.com] Re: MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara [David Doody ] MM: Hey there!...a little late. [GRMACHN@aol.com] Re: MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara [dougebob@juno.com (Doug K)] MM: savannah show with edwin mccain [Cre8beauty@AOL.COM] RE: MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara [Robin Hall ] Re: MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara [jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson] MM: (no subject) ["Brian L. Conley" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:52:34 EDT From: NomiM@aol.com Subject: MM: a couple of things.... Hey again... I was just looking at some of the posts that people have been writing and I was wondering if people see a distinct attraction between queers/gays (whatever) and Patty's music. I always assumed patty was straight, am I wrong? It just seems like a lot of the people on this list are gay and I was just wondering what other people think about this.... also, I was wondering if people know if the boston show is all ages or what. I could get off my lazy ass and call, but I thought I'd see if anyone here knows first. oh and also, is anyone here going to be at falcon ridge this weekend? It's my first year going and I'm so excited.... alright, enough late night rambling.... Nomi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:03:22 -0300 From: David Lewis Subject: Re: MM: a couple of things.... >I was just looking at some of the posts that people have been writing and I >was wondering if people see a distinct attraction between queers/gays >(whatever) and Patty's music. Uh... no? :/ >I always assumed patty was straight, am I >wrong? It just seems like a lot of the people on this list are gay and I was >just wondering what other people think about this.... I think it's a very bad idea to make up silly theories and generalizations about people. >also, I was wondering if people know if the boston show is all ages or what. 18 and over I believe. Positive id required. - ------------------------------------------- David Lewis - Graphic Designer dlewis@hfx.andara.com - ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:43:06 -0400 From: elaine bean Subject: Re: MM: a couple of things.... NomiM@aol.com wrote: > also, I was wondering if people know if the boston show is all ages or what. Hi, It says on the ticket that it is an 18 plus show. > was wondering if people see a distinct attraction between queers/gays > (whatever) and Patty's music. > It just seems like a lot of the people on this list are gay . . . You know what? I would venture to guess that at least half (if not more) of the people on the Indigo Girls or the Melissa Etheridge list are straight. There is absolutely no correlation between appreciating great, sensitive, thoughtful music and sexual orientation. Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:44:16 -0400 From: dana Subject: Re: MM: a couple of things... Patty writes about the condition of the human heart- and relationships- that includes all of us in one way or another. We can all identify- I think one needs a shred at least of sensitivity to apprecate Patty's lyrics and if so, her arrows hit home. Otherwise, we would be listening to fluffy stuff. I can see myself at some point in my life in a number of lines in her songs- Let Him Fly, Sweet Lorraine, Mary, Mad Mission, Moses, Long Ride Home, Forgiveness- on and on. Is the theme lonliness? Trying to reach another person? Straight, gay- isn't that part at least the same? Dana ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:20:34 EDT From: Stevshep2@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara I was there last night in Santa Barbara. Being a late addtion and having no promotion (I would have missed it if my son hadn't mentioned she was playing) the crowd was rather small--but they were fans! After every song they really gave it their all. Patty noted at one point, "Wow--small, but lively!" See opened with Wiggley Fingers and just freaking' rocked! Then did One Big Love, Tony, Change and Christina (I don't write set lists down--it's too much like taking notes--so I do remember everything). The rest in no particular order: Every Little Bit, Poor Man's House, Carry Me, Blue Sky (one of my favs). She did a killer version of Crazy For You all by herself (kind on in the vein of Go Now, but just her and the guitar). Really showed off here vocal and emotional range!! For the encore she did Mary (I'll gotta say is, wow) and ? I can't remember, but it will come to me. I'm know I'm missing one or two. The sound was not that great. The sound guy at the Coach House needs to learn how to mix for a singer/songwriter. This wasn't Rage Against the Machine, come on buddy! To give you an indication, between Memphis Heat and Patty he was playing grunge and metal--hello. Not exactly a grunge/metal crowd. He (they) didn't do a very good job with Dar Williams a couple of months back, and they weren't nearly as loud or rockin. O well, it was great anyway. With this band in an outdoors venue, where they could rock but still hear the vocals, would be awesome. Her Lilth Fair dates should be great. steven ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:30:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David Doody Subject: Re: MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 Stevshep2@aol.com wrote: > With this band in an outdoors venue, where they could rock but still hear the > vocals, would be awesome. Her Lilth Fair dates should be great. I wouldn't count on any better balance outdoors. :( OK, so I wasn't actually at the show at the Pier in Seattle last week (first time I travel for work, and it has to be when Patty comes to town...grrr), but my roommates said their only complaint was that they couldn't hear Patty's vocals over the band. :( And I hadn't even filled them in on the hubbub that occurred on this list a couple months ago when people made the same complaint. I wonder why it hasn't been fixed yet?!?! :( :( Anyway, my roommates still loved the show...and they also commented on how good looking the band was. :) Hoping Patty returns as a headliner soon... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:12:29 EDT From: GRMACHN@aol.com Subject: MM: Hey there!...a little late. Hi. I am new too this list...sort of. I have been reading all the posts for the last couple of weeks and have been enjoying it immensely. However, doing that makes me feel like I am spying or something, especially when not a soul knows who I am or why I am here. So hence this post. I have been a fan of Patty's for a while now. I used to live in Southern California, and a little over two years ago there was a station (KSCA) which played the music no one else would give a shot in that area. Now, in regular rotation I NEVER heard her, but as the station was having it's very emotional signoff, they had been playing the best of their "In Studio" performances. On the second to last day, they had their last "live" one on the air and guess who it was...yup. I tuned in of course to only hear the last two songs (Moses and Every Little Bit) and wrote down her name to search for her CD. I Promptly lost the note and went months trying to remember. On a total chance I walked into a Tower records on my way to my girlfriend's house and in a listening station they had her CD under "NEW EXCITING ARTISTS." I was so excited to recognize the name that I bought it then and there. But I had to wait until that night to listen to it. I started listening to it at about 2am and just drove around the whole night listening to it over and over, that's the kind of effect it had on me. I respect, but can't concur with the post about not liking Patty's voice. The crispness, the powerfulness, it was the most natural and beautiful thing I had heard. It sounded like her Heart screaming from within her chest! (OK, maybe that's overboard). I obsessively listened to the CD and converted FIVE of my friends within a couple of weeks. I saw her open for Shawn Colvin in LA about a month later. The sound sucked, but hey it was still her! But, then about two months later I was at a Dar Williams concert in San Diego and noticed on their poster that Patty was going to play a *FREE* concert in the middle of the afternoon the next weekend. We were supposed to be in Las Vegas, but we didn't let that detour us. We traveled all morning (starting at like 4am) and drove back to SD to see her. The crowd was only about 10-15 people. It was like having a private concert from one of the most passionate performers. And she played Christina saying,"Here's a new song I just wrote." Then and there I had her sign my CD. She was incredibly shy and sweet and thought we were a little nuts for coming all that way. We were. Since then I moved to NYC and saw her last spring at the Fez in an absolutely amazing concert. First I was elated to see a big crowd. Second the concert was about three times as long, plus she played a bunch of songs from FR...acoustic! So I empathize with those that don't like the album versions. I however feel as though they are so different that it's almost like two different songs, both of which I love. So there! I am sorry for the epic length of my post but I felt I needed to get all of that out. It is nice to be a part of this group. Now between this and the Dar List, my favorite artists are taken care of! Again, sorry for the length. I won't post much, just lurk, but when I do...I promise they won't be this long! Really. Thanks again. Tootles. Steve "If you dig it, do it. If you REALLY dig it, do it TWICE!" -- Jim Croce NP-Barenaked Ladies (Stunt) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:03:16 -0700 From: dougebob@juno.com (Doug K) Subject: Re: MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara The show in Santa Barbara was somewhat unique in that she was the headliner, squeezing in a date between her opening gigs for Sister Hazel. As others have confirmed about this tour, she is going for the loud, fuzzy, reverb sound. Could hardly hear her lyrics. Her band was pretty interesting, especially the bass player who seemed to be having TOO good of a time (if you've seen him, you know what I mean :-) ). She did manage to do a couple songs solo acoustic, including her usual sparkling version of "Crazy." The crowd was VERY small at the Coach House. We arrived just before the opening band and sat wherever we wanted. The tables near the stage were half-filled when Patty came on. I guess it must be one of the smallest crowds she's going to play for. Almost immediately after her short performance, Patty was very gracious and came out into the club and signed autographs and chatted for a few of us who hung around. I also got to chat with a couple of Angelenos who were inspired to do the 1-1/2 hour drive (2+ in traffic) to Santa Barbara. Patty also did a 45 minute interview/performance on KCRW's "Morning Becomes Eclectic" in Los Angeles today. She was interviewed by Nick Harcourt and performed five songs acoustically with her band, including Wiggley Fingers, Tony, Go Now, One Big Love, and Peter Pan. Not too much interview, but it was nice hearing unplugged versions of her new songs. She talked a little about her early days in Boston and how she moved to Austin two months ago to live with her new boyfriend. On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:20:34 EDT Stevshep2@aol.com writes: >I was there last night in Santa Barbara. Being a late addtion and >having no >promotion (I would have missed it if my son hadn't mentioned she was >playing) >the crowd was rather small--but they were fans! After every song they >really >gave it their all. Patty noted at one point, "Wow--small, but lively!" > >See opened with Wiggley Fingers and just freaking' rocked! Then did >One Big >Love, Tony, Change and Christina (I don't write set lists down--it's >too much >like taking notes--so I do remember everything). The rest in no >particular >order: Every Little Bit, Poor Man's House, Carry Me, Blue Sky (one of >my >favs). She did a killer version of Crazy For You all by herself (kind >on in >the vein of Go Now, but just her and the guitar). Really showed off >here vocal >and emotional range!! For the encore she did Mary (I'll gotta say is, >wow) and >? I can't remember, but it will come to me. I'm know I'm missing one >or two. > >The sound was not that great. The sound guy at the Coach House needs >to learn >how to mix for a singer/songwriter. This wasn't Rage Against the >Machine, come >on buddy! To give you an indication, between Memphis Heat and Patty he >was >playing grunge and metal--hello. Not exactly a grunge/metal crowd. He >(they) >didn't do a very good job with Dar Williams a couple of months back, >and they >weren't nearly as loud or rockin. O well, it was great anyway. > >With this band in an outdoors venue, where they could rock but still >hear the >vocals, would be awesome. Her Lilth Fair dates should be great. > >steven > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:59:54 EDT From: Cre8beauty@AOL.COM Subject: MM: savannah show with edwin mccain patty is touring with edwin mccain all over the place, check out A and M records page to get the dates aaron ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jul 98 09:43:09 -0800 From: Robin Hall Subject: RE: MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara I was at the show at the Coach House also, and I agree, the sound was pretty lousy. It may have something to do with the way the roof is set upp with all those nooks and crannies. I was talking to the drummer, Raphael, after the show, and he said they had done a very long soundcheck in the afternoon, but still hadn't been satisfied with the sound. Still, it was a great show. Patty and the band had a chance to stretch out a lot more than the night before at the House of Blues. Highlights for me were Patty's solo accoustic version of "Crazy," and "Flaming Red," which seems to take on a whole new dimension when it's played live. See you in San Freancisco. PS Patty is doing an interview on KCRW today at 11:00 AM. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:11:32 -0700 From: jessica.sampson@sbaor.com (Jessica Sampson) Subject: Re: MM: Patty @ Santa Barbara I was at the show in Santa Barbara too! Wow I was so bummin cuz noone was dancing. I wanted to get up there and go crazy. The show was so good and I loved talking to her after the show! She just so cute! I was there with my mom and sister and friend and we really had a great time I wish I could go see her tonight at the fillmore but theres noway! Well this is a great list. Jessica Sampson Robin Hall wrote: > I was at the show at the Coach House also, and I agree, the sound was > pretty lousy. It may have something to do with the way the roof is set upp > with all those nooks and crannies. I was talking to the drummer, Raphael, > after the show, and he said they had done a very long soundcheck in the > afternoon, but still hadn't been satisfied with the sound. > Still, it was a great show. Patty and the band had a chance to stretch > out a lot more than the night before at the House of Blues. > Highlights for me were Patty's solo accoustic version of "Crazy," and > "Flaming Red," which seems to take on a whole new dimension when it's played > live. > See you in San Freancisco. > PS Patty is doing an interview on KCRW today at 11:00 AM. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:29:49 -0500 From: "Brian L. Conley" Subject: MM: (no subject) Hi- I have been a subscriber since April, but too afraid to ever speak up; the way Patty's music has affected me is so strong, I had to be sure other people would understand. Now, I want to respond to Nomi's request of favorite songs from LWG. (Sorry it is kind of an old topic). The first song I ever heard was "Let Him Fly" I loved it, and thought I was getting pulled over by a cop because of the ambulance siren in the background. I bought cd and felt it was a personal narrative. My favorite has changed so many times, but my top two would have to be "Forgiveness" and "You Never Get What You Want". I also feel I must explain why. I have been a very angry for a long time. A boy broke my heart and left me with a lot of issues to deal with. So, sometimes, the person who never gets what they want is me and other times the people who I would not let get close to me. Something happened, though, that changed me. I'll spare you all the details, but I have grown up, let go, and gone on. I feel that I am healed and can finally forgive. That song says it best. Everybody needs a little forgiveness. I'm so sorry this is so long, but it really took a lot of courage for me share this with you all. I feel so fortunate that there are really other people who understand the magnitude of her work. Thanks for listening Sara P.S If anyone can get Patty to Kansas City, it would be greatly appreciated! ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #208 *********************************