From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #205 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttyg.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com * then click "tour" and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, July 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 205 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: LWG favorites... [NomiM@aol.com] MM: ...interesting patty pic [Tim Burke ] Re: MM: ...interesting patty pic [caroline bonnivier ] MM: RE: My Patty Adventure ["Paquin, John" ] MM: Re: Patty concert in CA on 7/22/Introduction [Stevshep2@aol.com] MM: Re: LWG favorites... ["musgrove" ] MM: Patty in Boston [Cynthia Courtney ] MM: LWG favorites... [Yarek Hrywna ] [none] ["Mike Gorecki" ] Re: MM: my two cents [Adangerz@aol.com] Re: MM: LWG favorites... [caroline bonnivier ] Re: MM: LWG favorites... [RussAlanis@aol.com] MM: LWG Favorites [SunShiny16@aol.com] RE: MM: LWG favorites... [Ashley Tsongas ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 01:38:46 EDT From: NomiM@aol.com Subject: MM: LWG favorites... hi all, I am a new-ish subscriber to this list so forgive me if this question has been asked in the past, but....I was wondering what peoples favorite songs are on LWG. I was just thinking about this because I was having a conversation with my friend about this and we had very different feelings and very different reasons, so what do you all think? I'd have to go with Forgiveness, but there are a bunch of close seconds. look forward to hearing what you guys think... ~Nomi~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:48:06 -0400 From: Tim Burke Subject: MM: ...interesting patty pic I scanned a full-page ad today, promo for One Big Love in Gavin... if for any reason, because it has a very *interesting* pic of Patty.. at least I think it's Patty! Actually I really can't tell... it's kind of cool though. I posted it at http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~tb340297/pat.jpg if anyone with web pages or whatever wants to check it out :) - -tim "I do the don'ts, I don't the dos, I wrong the rights, and I false the truths" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:51:04 -0400 From: caroline bonnivier Subject: Re: MM: ...interesting patty pic >I scanned a full-page ad today, promo for One Big Love in Gavin... if for >any reason, because it has a very *interesting* pic of Patty.. at least I >think it's Patty! Actually I really can't tell... it's kind of cool though. >I posted it at http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~tb340297/pat.jpg if anyone with >web pages or whatever wants to check it out :) hey tim...very cool picture...thanks for posting it...its definitely her i would say, looks just like her. peace and stuff caroline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:23:20 -0400 (EDT) From: AloanStar@webtv.net (Jeanne Pugh) Subject: MM: Off Track I know it irrated some and pleased others when I asked if the HS stories were necessary. I am detected through some sarcasism, that anyone should be offended by Patty's use of fag/faggot/gueer. I didn't bring it up. I was referring to an earlier post in which someone asked if anyone thought it would offend any gay rights groups. I could care less. I am a lesbian and I don't mind being called dyke/queer or anything else. There isn't a term in existence that doesn't offend someone or some group. I only said that if someone is comfortable with their sexuality and the term isn't used negatively, then it shouldn't be taken offensively. I also didn't say I knew more about music than anyone on the list. I had an opinion on the HS topic, along with everyone else. I have gotten negative and positive email from what I said. I read each one and I appreciate your input on mine. I didn't make an issue out of the terms Patty uses. I, speaking only for myself and no one on this list, would never put her down for anything she writes. Jeanne (Sorry Judith, I said I would keep quiet, but I couldn't help it.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:17:55 -0500 From: rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) Subject: MM: Patty in St. Louis w/Sister 7 "Lieutenant - disengage lurking device" "Lurking Device off, sir"... Bill Diekmann writes: | Joe wrote, | | >Patty will be appearing in St. Louis at Blueberry Hill | >in The Duck Room on Saturday, July 25th. | >It's a benefit gig for the Marine Corps Toys for Tots | >campaign. Also performing are Sister 7, New World | >Spirits, Daisy Chain and O'T Matthew. | >Show starts a 7:00 P.M., cover is $5.00 if you bring | >a new toy and $10.00 if you don't. Quick word of note - I *seriously* doubt this will be a 21+ show, but if it isn't, it'll be the first non-21+ show The Duck Room's done in its brief almost 1 year existence. If it would affect you, I suggest you call to make sure it isn't. | Man, I don't know. Thats a lot of bar bands to suffer through. Maybe if I | left my house around 10 pm I could catch Patty. Have you heard any of these | other folks? I've heard NWS and thats it. Actually, Sister 7 will kick your butt up one wall, across the ceiling, and down the other. 8) I've never gotten too much into NWS and I'm not holding out alot of hope for the others. But if you plan on leaving your house at 10 pm, plan on dining at Blueberry Hill and listening through the floor, 'cuz capacity's only ~350 and I've not been to a Sister 7 show here with less than 100 people (and that was on a week night before they got *any* radio play... weekends they draw 150+ easy). Although a duet between Patty and Patrice would be interesting to say the least(!!!), I'm not holding out hope. You'll not hear two bigger sounds out of two more diminutive frames. | Sounds like short sets and lots of equipment changes to me. Yep. Expect Sister 7 and Patty to end the show, probably with 40 minute-ish sets. A crime, actually, but that's all Suzanne Vega (who hadn't been here in _9_ years...) and Duncan Sheik each got when they were the 'headliners' at the Toys for Tots drive Christmas before last. bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:41:15 -0700 From: "Victoria Chenevey" Subject: MM: Patty at House of Blues Oooh, I'm so excited! Tomorrow (Tuesday) night I'm seeing Patty at House of Blues in Hollywood, opening for Sister Hazel. Anyone know what to expect for Sister Hazel? Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:01:31 EDT From: Mystchif1@aol.com Subject: MM: My Patty Adventure Hey everyone! Here it is, one in the morning, and I just returned from seeing Patty and Sister Hazel play at the Cajun House in Scottsdale, Arizona. And since I can't sleep, I thought I'd share my little adventure with everyone..... We arrived at the concert and I realized that I forgot my ID. So I ended up being branded with two HUGE under 21 stamps, much to my dismay, and I pouted my way into the club. We got a good spot in front of the stage and watched Patty play ten songs, all from FR. I remembered reading a post about someone saying they waited by the backstage entrance and got the road manager to have Patty sign some stuff, so I casually hung out by the door, hoping to schmooze my way into an autograph. Unfortunately, everyone was mean, so that idea backfired, but then Patty's bassist came out and told me to go outside around to the bus to see if someone could help me back there. There I met a very nice man, I think his name was Ty(???) and he took my cd covers to Patty and she signed them both. I then went back into the club to find my friends and catch some of Sister Hazel's act when, about a half an hour later, I was overwhelmed by the need to use the facilities. I fought my way through and did my duty and I came out and started to unhook all my recording equipment when my friend bumps me and says, "isn't that Patty Griffin?" I turn around to see a little redhead going into my former stall! I didn't want to approach her in the bathroom so I headed out and bumped into Ty. He asked me if I had talked to her and I told him that I didn't want to bother her. So he told me to wait until she came out, which I did, and when she did come out, I got to meet her and take a picture with her. She was very very nice and very little! (Of course my four-inch platforms make me a nice round six feet) So here I am, floating, cuz' I got to see her play (for the first time!), got a good sounding recording of the show, got her autograph, and got to meet her! Woo-hoo! Yay me! Okay, I'm done now. Sorry about the length of this post but artists rarely get this far out west and I'm really really happy that I got to experience the whole evening. Thanks for listening! :) Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:33:23 -0500 From: "Paquin, John" Subject: MM: MML RE: LWG favorites... I love that album! Definately passes the desert island test. Here's my list of fav's: Poor Man's House Mad Mission Sweet Lorrain Let Him Fly ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:36:37 -0500 From: "Paquin, John" Subject: MM: RE: My Patty Adventure Jen wrote: >> So he told me to wait until she came out, which I did, and when she did come >> out, I got to meet her and take a picture with her. You should post the picture, I'm sure everyone would love to see it!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:05:39 EDT From: Stevshep2@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: Patty concert in CA on 7/22/Introduction I'm new to the list, so let me introduce myself. My name is Steven Shepard and I live in Santa Barbara Ca. I have just recently been introduced to Patty's music, but became an instant fan. Those of you on the Dar list will know me as the guy who designed the Krispy Kruller All Nite Sugar Palace shirt (that we are still working on producing. Dar fans interested in it can take a look at it at http://member.aol.com/stevshep2/krispy.htm.*) Musical taste ranges from Dar Williams, Patty Larkin, Lucy Kaplansky to Dave Matthews Band, Michael Penn, Toad the wet Sprocket to Julia Fordham, Ani Difranco to David Bowie (Spiders from Mars vintage), Yes, and Elvis Costello (OK, so I just dated myself, so sue me). I've got tickets to Wednesdays, Santa Barbara show and have a dumb question: Is Patty touring with a band or by herself? The people I talked to at the venue didn't know. I haven't been subscribed to the list long enough to have got this info if it was posted in some for earlier. steven *the shirt is not a commercial venture, I'm not going to profit from the shirt, proceeds will go to the Snowden Environmental Trust that Dar supports. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:31:45 -0400 From: "musgrove" Subject: MM: Re: LWG favorites... I am a new lister too, so I am looking forward to the responses as well.... First off, I have to say that all of LWG speaks to me--it came around at just that perfect time in my life, you know? But if I have to choose favorites, I would have to say Sweet Lorraine (I love to sing this one at the top of my lungs while driving in my car--HaHa!) and Poor Man's House. "Mama says God tends to every little skinny sheep..." I also really like Time Will Do The Talking--I think it was written just for me sometimes. Also, has anyone heard whether the Patty/ Edwin McCain show in Nashville on August 7th has been finalized yet? 328 Performance Hall keeps saying it's tentative... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:47:29 -0500 From: Cynthia Courtney Subject: MM: Patty in Boston In addition to buying at the box office, you can order tickets through Ticketmaser, either online or by phone. Online: http://www.ticketmaster.com Phone (in Boston area): 617-931-2000 I just ordered mine! Yippee! does anyone know if she'll be playing with any or all of her band? Cindy Courtney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:58:22 -0400 From: Yarek Hrywna Subject: MM: LWG favorites... I guess I'm not the only new-ish one here, after all. Always interesting to hear what songs speak to people (and why). I'd have to say that my favorite song on LWG is "Every Little Bit". Both the song and the whole album remind me of the person who introduced me to Patti, and our relationship was "less than sincere" on both our parts. The song just seems so haunted and pained. Certainly not the most uplifting song, but heartfelt. - -Yarek + + + + + + + + + + + + + Yarek Hrywna yhrywna@lupine.mbl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:35:24 -0700 From: "Mike Gorecki" Subject: [none] "You are not alone" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:13:29 EDT From: Adangerz@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: my two cents In a message dated 7/20/98 6:24:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bean@neu.edu writes: << > So I'll go on record as saying that as a lesbian/dyke/please don't call me . . . Nice to know there are others on the list!!! Elaine >> We are everywhere..... Muaaaaaaaaaaaahhhahahahahahahahhahha! Adangerz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:40:38 -0400 From: caroline bonnivier Subject: Re: MM: LWG favorites... hey...although ive been lurking for quite some time, i couldnt resist adding in on this topic. first time i heard patty, my friend (who is now my fiance) played LWG for me and i couldnt stand it...there was something about her voice that irritated me, so after track 2 i convinced him to shut it off. i know that wasnt the topic, but i thought i would throw it in...did anyone else have that experience? about a month later, i was home alone with the cd and decided to give it another try...it went from tolerable to one of my favorite cd's ever in about 3 listens...ha. i even saw her at passim in that time when i wasnt all that crazy about her. actually, i guess the first time i heard her was technically on Ellis Paul's cd, in the background, but that doesnt really count. so anyway, my favorite song on LWG is without a doubt, hands down "sweet lorraine" because i swear it is so close to exactly like my life story. but i wont ramble on. second fav's are "poor mans house" and "mad mission". LWG is one of those cd's where if i had a soundtrack of my life, this cd would definitely be in there. ever since last summer when i started appreciating her, the cd has been around. i even taped it so i have a copy in the car too for those long trips (when i get to sing at the top of my lungs without hurting anyone). i listened to it all last summer and a lot in between, especially on my road trips...so now when i hear it, it brings back memories of driving to FL, or whatever...anyway, ive gone on long enough. hope this letter doesnt upset anyone. peace and stuff caroline NP: beth orton "trailer park" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:37:23 EDT From: RussAlanis@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: LWG favorites... My favorite by far is Time Will Do the Talking. That song just makes me soooo happy, and it makes so much sense. Second fav is Moses; whenever I listen to LWG, I end up listening to that song at least 3 times. Gotta love it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:23:51 EDT From: SunShiny16@aol.com Subject: MM: LWG Favorites It's hard to pick a favorite from LWG cause I actually love most all of the songs on that CD. But Sweet Lorraine has the most sentimental value...in between classes at school my friends would take out their guitars and we would go outside and belt it. It would be a beautiful day and we would just sing it over and over and over again. Eventually most the girls in my dorm knew Patty Griffin! People would walk buy and stop and either sit down to listen or laugh at us, either way it was fun!! (I'm the one who loved high school, are you understanding now why I loved it so much????) Thanks! Risa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:24:51 -0700 From: Ashley Tsongas Subject: RE: MM: LWG favorites... I had heard ELB on the radio and rushed out to buy the cd, but it took me a while to fall in love with the rest of the album. I distinctly remember listening to Forgiveness (now one of my favorites) and laughing out loud during the "Hey, hey, HEY" part. Now, I introduce her to my friends with Sweet Lorraine and tell them to give her a little time. It always works. > -----Original Message----- > From: caroline bonnivier [SMTP:caroline@guppy22.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 10:41 AM > To: the patty list > Subject: Re: MM: LWG favorites... > > hey...although ive been lurking for quite some time, i couldnt resist > adding in on this topic. first time i heard patty, my friend (who is > now > my fiance) played LWG for me and i couldnt stand it...there was > something > about her voice that irritated me, so after track 2 i convinced him to > shut > it off. i know that wasnt the topic, but i thought i would throw it > in...did anyone else have that experience? about a month later, i was > home > alone with the cd and decided to give it another try...it went from > tolerable to one of my favorite cd's ever in about 3 listens...ha. i > even > saw her at passim in that time when i wasnt all that crazy about her. > actually, i guess the first time i heard her was technically on Ellis > Paul's cd, in the background, but that doesnt really count. so > anyway, my > favorite song on LWG is without a doubt, hands down "sweet lorraine" > because i swear it is so close to exactly like my life story. but i > wont > ramble on. second fav's are "poor mans house" and "mad mission". LWG > is > one of those cd's where if i had a soundtrack of my life, this cd > would > definitely be in there. ever since last summer when i started > appreciating > her, the cd has been around. i even taped it so i have a copy in the > car > too for those long trips (when i get to sing at the top of my lungs > without > hurting anyone). i listened to it all last summer and a lot in > between, > especially on my road trips...so now when i hear it, it brings back > memories of driving to FL, or whatever...anyway, ive gone on long > enough. > hope this letter doesnt upset anyone. > peace and stuff > caroline > > NP: beth orton "trailer park" > > ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #205 *********************************