From: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org (mad-mission-digest) To: mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Subject: mad-mission-digest V2 #191 Reply-To: mad-mission@smoe.org Sender: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-mad-mission-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * mad-mission-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Patty's tour dates, go to: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm * OR * go to http://www.amrecords.com/road/index.html * and fill in the blanks :) * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: mad-mission-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. mad-mission-digest Tuesday, July 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 191 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MM: No Depression review ["David Lee" ] MM: Patty July 23rd! + a thought or two to bounce off ya! [CaSerfer@aol.c] Re: MM: World Cafe [JohnRN23@aol.com] MM: Newton Boys soundtrack [PeaceLoveGrace@webtv.net (Adam Robinson)] Re: MM: Newton Boys soundtrack [JohnRN23@aol.com] MM: Re: CD COst -- THANKS -Reply -Reply [Mark Cicero ] MM: Lilith Fair in the motor city [JessBartn@aol.com] Re: MM: Patty July 23rd! + a thought or two to bounce off ya! ["Sean Pale] MM: Re: Re: CD COst -- THANKS -Reply -Reply -Reply [Mark Cicero ] MM: Max, the background dog [hkoehler@admin.austin.isd.tenet.edu (Holly B] MM: Re: patty in philly... [NomiM@aol.com] MM: The album...revisted [Jason Kreuter ] Re: MM: The album...revisted [David Doody ] MM: Selections Promo CD ["Silver Kat" ] MM: the Philly show... [Gidget10@aol.com] Re: MM: the Philly show... ["Stephen V. Gilmore" ] MM: Slightly Patty Related [Chris Kornmann ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:54:39 -0700 From: "David Lee" Subject: MM: No Depression review In the spirit of this mailing list, it's been said that the good,. the bad, and the ugly should be all included. Unfortunately the alt-country magazine No Depression July-August 98 FR review was a bit ugly. What one might see as musical variety, the reviewer saw as unfocused. I don't think this person had a problem with the songwriting (although I won't mention what he said about "Tony"), but the different musical styles of the songs. It appeared he was expecting Living With Ghosts Part 2 - The Wonder Years. Oh well, you can't please them all... maybe he was reviewing FR for what it wasn't instead of what it is. David ps Ironic magazine name - No Depression ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:40:42 EDT From: CaSerfer@aol.com Subject: MM: Patty July 23rd! + a thought or two to bounce off ya! Hey everyone! Just wanted to send a post to tell you all how psyched I am to see Patty opening for Sister Hazel at the Fillmore in San Francisco. Times are good. I also want to make an observation. Interesting how so many are so terribly reluctant to let LVG go. The cd is fabulous, but give an artist a chance to grow. World goes round, and so should Patty be allowed to explore her vision. So many crass reviews of her cd in trade publications is nauseatingly indicative of the state of radio, particularly in the Bay Area, today. All you nay sayers can hold your breath and maybe you will get your wish for LVG 2 in 1999. I, for one, want to cherish that cd for what it is. Bring on the new! Nostalgia is no farther than my cd collection. Peace. Time Will Do The Talking. Always does... :) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 03:19:31 EDT From: JohnRN23@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: World Cafe If I can't listen pleease somebody get me a copy of that interview. Thanks! :-) John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:45:53 -0700 (PDT) From: PeaceLoveGrace@webtv.net (Adam Robinson) Subject: MM: Newton Boys soundtrack I found the Newton Boys S.T. cheap and grabbed it. Patty's song is GREAT as well as Abra Moore's. If you're a fan, the track is a must have, and so look for the S.T. Remember : there's only 1 track by Patty ~ proceed with caution... PeaceLove&Grace, +m ~ : ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 04:34:25 EDT From: JohnRN23@aol.com Subject: Re: MM: Newton Boys soundtrack Does she sing on the NB soundtrack or just play? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 07:27:08 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: MM: Re: CD COst -- THANKS -Reply -Reply Kevin writes in defense of another list member: "He expressed it as an opinion, not a fact, so let's just let everybody have their opinions, okay?" Mark replies: Read my whole post. What did I say at the end. Allow me to quote myself, "....you have every right to feel as you feel and express it as you see fit". I expressed my opinion as well. I thought he was being premature. Geeeze have we all become that sensitive. Regards. Mark Nashville,TN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:27:36 EDT From: JessBartn@aol.com Subject: MM: Lilith Fair in the motor city I went to the Lilith Fair last night, and just have to say... as great as it was to see the headliners, Sarah, Natalie, Indigo Girls, etc... I kept wondering where that feeling was, that butterfly in your stomach - tingle in your heart - feeling that you get when Patty is singing. Where was that voice that sets my spirit free each time I listen... ? I sorta, kinda, absolutely wished Patty was doing a spot there last night. But then, as I sat miles from the stage and stared at the back of thousands of heads, having to fight just to get a glimpse of the big screen on the wall, I knew I'd miss the intimacy of Patty's shows that I'd become accustomed to. I'd be jealous of all the teenage moshers who always seem to get front row, because they have all the time in the world to camp outside the box office. Sigh...guess being a devoted fan can be bittersweet :-) Jess~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 06:30:41 PDT From: "Sean Palen" Subject: Re: MM: Patty July 23rd! + a thought or two to bounce off ya! Hello all I just wanted to warn concert goers that Sister Hazel puts on a show where their best song is a Fleetwood Mac cover . I saw the freddy Jones Band open for them and then had to leave about six songs into sister hazel because every song sounded the same. Patty will blow them away I'm sure. Just a freindly warning sean >From: CaSerfer@aol.com >Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:40:42 EDT >To: mad-mission@smoe.org >Subject: MM: Patty July 23rd! + a thought or two to bounce off ya! > > > >Hey everyone! Just wanted to send a post to tell you all how psyched I am to >see Patty opening for Sister Hazel at the Fillmore in San Francisco. Times >are good. > >I also want to make an observation. Interesting how so many are so terribly >reluctant to let LVG go. The cd is fabulous, but give an artist a chance to >grow. World goes round, and so should Patty be allowed to explore her vision. >So many crass reviews of her cd in trade publications is nauseatingly >indicative of the state of radio, particularly in the Bay Area, today. All >you nay sayers can hold your breath and maybe you will get your wish for LVG 2 >in 1999. I, for one, want to cherish that cd for what it is. Bring on the >new! Nostalgia is no farther than my cd collection. > >Peace. Time Will Do The Talking. Always does... :) > >Keith > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 09:46:13 -0500 From: Mark Cicero Subject: MM: Re: Re: CD COst -- THANKS -Reply -Reply -Reply Kevin, Why don't I just quote Jason's whole post so there is no misunderstanding. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ "Thanks yto the many people who responded on the cost of the FLaming Red CD. I just got it for $11.99 BTW, I have to say at first pass I enjoy the acoustic solo versions of the songs much more then the band electric versions. For that matter, I think the first album isa much better representation of the true sound of Patty at her live shows. The production on the CD is just tnot to my liking IMHO. Just my $0.02 Jason \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Jason writes: "For that matter, I think the first album isa much better representation of the true sound of Patty at her live shows." Kevin, YOU DON'T CALL THAT A BLANKET STATEMENT! How can anyone say that LWG is a much better representation of the TRUE sound of Patty when they haven't even seen a Live show (with the band). That was really my whole point! If Jason has seen a live show and can still make that statement, then I stand corrected and will post a formal apology. Regards, Mark ******************************************************************* Jason Kreuter Graduate Student National Library of Medicine Fellow Biomedical Engineering - Division of Medical Informatics Duke University http://akg.mc.duke.edu ******************************************************************* >>> "Kevin B. Pease" 07/07/98 09:40am >>> >>Mark Cicero writes: >Read my whole post. What did I say at the end. Allow me to quote >myself, "....you have every right to feel as you feel and express it as you >see fit". Yes, you did. However, right before you said he has a right to feel as he feels, you said, "it's a request that you not be so quick to make such blanket statements." Basically, you flamed him, and then said, "Oh, this isn't a flame. Just don't do that again." The tone of your original message was fairly caustic, and the guy who wrote that he likes the acoustic stuff better was merely making a simple observation. Something he has every right to say, and think. He wasn't making a blanket statement, he was stating an opinion that you happened to disagree with; apparently, opinions you disagree with get filed in the "shut up, that's a blanket statement" file. >I expressed my opinion as well. I thought he was being premature. >Geeeze have we all become that sensitive. It's not a matter of our sensitivity, Mark. Go back and re-read your whole post... it's written in a fairly "in your face" style. Hardly what I'd consider a "Hey, everything's all right anyway" message. I'm not trying to jump on you here, although I guess I sort of am, I just felt your original post was a pretty big overreaction to the original "I like acoustic Patty better" post. - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) http://www.wpi.edu/~kestrel "And as I watch the drops of rain weave their weary paths and die, I know that I am like the rain, there but for the grace of you go I..." --(Paul Simon)-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:19:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen V. Gilmore" Subject: MM: CD cost FR is on sale for $11.99 this week at Media Play and Borders. Also, Borders has it set up at listening stations to sample the tracks you haven't heard yet. - SVG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:19:02 -0500 From: hkoehler@admin.austin.isd.tenet.edu (Holly Burton Koehler) Subject: MM: Max, the background dog Does anyone know on which track(s) Max, the background dog, appears? Logically, I suppose, Max would perform on "Change," but I haven't been able to identify a bark, growl, howl, or whimper on any of the songs. HBK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:56:23 EDT From: NomiM@aol.com Subject: MM: Re: patty in philly... Hi there, I was just wondering what this show in philly is. I mean, where it is and when and stuff. I'm considering travelling the 6 hours to philly to see it....crazy.... If anyone has the details, please let me know...thanks, Nomi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 18:12:27 -0400 From: Jason Kreuter Subject: MM: The album...revisted Well, since my last *opinion* caused a bit of a disturbance on this list, I thought I would revisit the album now that I have played it through a few times. In short, I still do not care for the new album as much as I do for the first album (particularly its style) -- though I do still enjoy listening to the cd! For example, I guess I am the only one who thinks the song Tony sounds VERY CHEESY with those silly synthesized fake instruments in the background (at least it sounds like there are several synthesized instruments mixed in with "real" instruments). When I heard Tony for the first time as a solo accoustic I LOVED IT! Hearing Patty pounding on that guitar and getting so into the song Tony that in the middle she stops singing and says "Wow, I am sorry, I just get so into it when I play this song!" and then continuing was fantastic. Frankly, I just do not think she needs a background band. Of those people who have heard Tony (I reference this song because this was "voted" as favorite song on the new album) both solo accoustic and on the album/electric which do you prefer? I first heard Patty as an opener for the band I was paying to see. But, now I am so glad that I had the DAT deck running because that became my favorite tape, and she became one of my favorite singers. Well, lets see who "flames" me for my opinions... Just my $0.02, Jason ******************************************************************* Jason Kreuter Graduate Student National Library of Medicine Fellow Biomedical Engineering - Division of Medical Informatics Duke University ******************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:33:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David Doody Subject: Re: MM: The album...revisted On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Jason Kreuter wrote: > Of those people who have heard Tony (I reference this song because this > was "voted" as favorite song on the new album) both solo accoustic and > on the album/electric which do you prefer? I haven't been in the same room when she's performed the song, but I have a copy of a live show (thankyouthankyouthankyou) from the Ark in February. When I listened to the tape the first couple times, "Tony" really didn't stand out as a great song to me, even after all the hubbub over the lyrics here on the list. When I got the CD, however, I instantly fell in love with the song. I think it's beautifully produced, and I definitely enjoy all the little touches that were added to the song. I'm sure I'll appreciate it even more live if I ever get to hear her do it acoustically again, and I like the tape more than I used to now that I'm more familiar with the song. But I have to say I prefer the CD version... When the accompaniment drops out and she sings "little faggot staring back at him," I get chills every time. :) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:06:38 -0400 From: "Silver Kat" Subject: MM: Selections Promo CD Hi there, For all you collectors out there I have a promo CD that I would like to get rid of - It is Selections From Living With Ghosts - the black disc comes in a cardboard sleeve that is similar to the Living With Ghosts cover - the track listing is: Moses LP version 3:28 Mad Mission LP version 2:40 Let Him Fly LP version 3:11 Every Little Bit LP version 5:33 It has not been played and is in excellent condition... Please email me if you're interested - I really want to get rid of this... Cheers Kim Boots Anyone? http://www.angelfire.com/nj/silverkat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:34:05 EDT From: Gidget10@aol.com Subject: MM: the Philly show... Hi! Some people have been asking about the show in Philly so here is what I know. It is the WXPN (88.5 out of Philly) singer/songwriter weekend and it is going to be great! Patty plays on Sunday probably at about 4:00. It may be even earlier then that. She will be following Mary Arden Collins who is GREAT!!! You must get there early to check her out, too. Trust me when I say it's well worth it. Mary and her band will take the stage at approximately 2:30. The gates open at 1:00 for the whole thing so get there as early as possible. It should be pretty crowded. I guess it would also help if I told you that it is on Penn's Landing. If you have any other questions, feel free to email me. Hope to see some of you there! - Kristen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:06:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen V. Gilmore" Subject: Re: MM: the Philly show... Where in Philly is Penn's Landing? How much is the admission charge? And are tickets available through Ticketmaster (or at places other than the concert venue)? On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 Gidget10@aol.com wrote: > Hi! > Some people have been asking about the show in Philly so here is what I > know. It is the WXPN (88.5 out of Philly) singer/songwriter weekend and it is > going to be great! Patty plays on Sunday probably at about 4:00. It may be > even earlier then that. She will be following Mary Arden Collins who is > GREAT!!! You must get there early to check her out, too. Trust me when I say > it's well worth it. Mary and her band will take the stage at approximately > 2:30. The gates open at 1:00 for the whole thing so get there as early as > possible. It should be pretty crowded. I guess it would also help if I told > you that it is on Penn's Landing. If you have any other questions, feel free > to email me. Hope to see some of you there! > - Kristen > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:00:22 -0400 From: Chris Kornmann Subject: MM: Slightly Patty Related Hello all... There has been some talk about other artists, and one of the artists name that came up was Joy Askew. (To quote Stepahnie) "For those of you who have never heard Joy before, GO CHECK HER OUT! When you do, your jaw will drop in wonder and you will be wondering how the hell you let yourself miss out on such an amazing singer, songwriter & performer for such a long time! Those of you who are into Paula Cole even in the slightest, let me tell you...Joy's style is a little different, but infinitely better! This amazing woman (who hails from Newcastle, England) toured with Joe Jackson and Peter Gabriel...she was touring with him before Paula Cole and spent some time touring last summer with The Lillith Fair. She is not to be missed." Joy is having a CD release party on Friday, July 10th at CBGB's 313 Gallery in New York City. She is releasing "When - A Bootleg" which are songs that she wrote for the movie "When" along with some new material and outakes. In addition, she has two other CD's "Tender City" and "Gorgeous Creature." Showtime is at 9pm. Hope to see you all there. Chris Chris Kornmann Art Director CMJ New Music Report (516) 498-3137 chrisk@cmj.com ------------------------------ End of mad-mission-digest V2 #191 *********************************